WEBVTT - 12-18-25 Bengals Roundtable Show with Lance and Rocky

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it go on six eight. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's Thursday night, it must be the Roundtable Show. And

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<v Speaker 2>that means we're hanging out at Longnecks in Wilder Lance.

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<v Speaker 2>McAllister Boyman. Two hours do unfold tonight. We've got Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got bear Cats. We've got some college football to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about as well. Rocky has navigated the highways and

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<v Speaker 2>byways through the rain and the wind and eventually there

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<v Speaker 2>will be sleep and there will be dropping temperatures.

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas shoppers everywhere, total chaos, chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>This show sets up for a little bit of chaos tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I get this almost feels like on the verge of

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<v Speaker 2>like Christmas break and let's just cut it loose and

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<v Speaker 2>fire away and do that for two hours tonight, so

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<v Speaker 2>we have some ground to navigate. We are looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to conversation with Trags at six twenty tonight. Boy, he

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<v Speaker 2>had an eventful day yesterday at the Bengals press conference

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<v Speaker 2>with Zach Taylor. We'll talk with Chad Brendle the Bearcat Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>You see football coming up in the seven o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna hear some of what Zach has said this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that. We'll hear some of what Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow has said this week, talk about that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And Rocky. I'll say this just as the tea. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the cool thing is we've experienced losing. Certainly we've experienced

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<v Speaker 2>losing Bengals seasons, but they've been losing and they've been boring,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've reached this point of the year and we

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<v Speaker 2>were I was probably printing out like mel kiper mock drafts.

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<v Speaker 2>We've reached a point in this season where it's a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible season. But holy Cali, they've given us storylines. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there is action and there are storylines that talk about

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<v Speaker 2>and we will talk about them tonight. Does that sound

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<v Speaker 2>like a plan?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, All right, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to some headlines and then we will go. We

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<v Speaker 2>start with the Bengals. They continue to work on the

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins today for Sunday's matchup in Miami. T Higgins still

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<v Speaker 2>in concussion protocol, was limited. Does not look like he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to play. Shamar Stewart was a full go. It

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<v Speaker 2>does look like he will play. Among those not practicing,

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<v Speaker 2>BJ Hill, Chris Jenkins, Charlie Jones, and Joseph o'saidh Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>Night Football rams at the Seahawks eight to fifteen on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports thirteen sixty. College Football. Bearcats continue work on

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<v Speaker 2>Navy and the Liberty Bowl January. The second offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 2>tarn TiO, Evan Tengisdahl, and Joe Cotton all announcing today

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram they are returning next season to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Bearcat offensive line. Who their quarterback will

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<v Speaker 2>be next year? To be determined. We'll ask Chad Brendle

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<v Speaker 2>about that and more as he checks in at seven

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<v Speaker 2>o six. Congrats the former Bengals quarterback AJ mccerrn. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been named head coach of the Birmingham Stallions of the

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<v Speaker 2>United Football League the UFL. He replaces Skip Polks, who

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<v Speaker 2>stepped down earlier this week. Until this week, McCarran had

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<v Speaker 2>been a candidate for Lieutenant governor of Alabama. On Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>McCarran ended his campaign for state office. Holds the son

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<v Speaker 2>of Blue Guy to the club three consecutive championships, was

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<v Speaker 2>USFL Coach of the Year in twenty twenty three and

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<v Speaker 2>posted a thirty three and seven record with the Stallions.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Can I tell you a quick Skipholtz story? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in South Bend working in TV nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety one, Skip was the wide receivers co and the

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<v Speaker 2>night before a week before the opener against Indiana, Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Meyer and Demetrius de Bos remember those names. We're part

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<v Speaker 2>of a group arrested at a campus party for underage drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, anything that happens in South Bend related

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<v Speaker 2>to Notre Dame is major news and the thought was

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<v Speaker 2>they would receive a suspension and not playing the opener

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<v Speaker 2>against Indiana. So I'm the weekend sports guy at that

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<v Speaker 2>point and we needed reaction from Notre Dame and they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't talking. Imagine that, John Balisari and they closed ranks.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not going to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went with my photographer to lose house, really fault,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knocked on the door and Skip answered and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, I was hoping to get a comment.

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<v Speaker 4>From your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said he's not talking and he closed the

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<v Speaker 2>door off. That is my skiphole, you tried. I was

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<v Speaker 2>the very aggressive and h fact seeking young reporter at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, and Skip Poltz just said he's not talking

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<v Speaker 2>and he closed the door. But you know, to meet

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Meyer from Goshen, he was good. Not as much

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, but at Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the biggest thing people remember about Rick

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<v Speaker 3>Meyer is Beino Cook guaranteed and he's gonna win two heismans.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, how do you? How do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Rick Meyer? Ron Poullos, No, it was Meyer

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<v Speaker 2>or was it Paulas Maybe it was Paula. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was Paula. Paulis Yeah, sorry, Yeah, I watched Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Meyer win a I'm pretty sure if I remember this correctly,

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<v Speaker 2>win a state championship quarterbacking the Goshen. Think that the

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<v Speaker 2>Goshen Redskins and Goshen, Indiana just outside of South Bend.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a hell of a high school quarterback. I'm flashing

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<v Speaker 2>back all right back to the headlines. Uh. I like

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<v Speaker 2>when we just kind of debate into our own topics

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<v Speaker 2>within the headlines. Red's announced the signing a free agent

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<v Speaker 2>left tended pitcher Caleb Ferguson to a one year contract today.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Goldsmith reports it's for four point five million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty nine year old. Split last season between the

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<v Speaker 2>Pirates and Mariners, he pitched in a career high seventy

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<v Speaker 2>games and at a three point fifty eight earned run average.

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<v Speaker 2>Hockey Blue Jackets skate on home ice versus the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>Wild tonight seven o'clock. Blue Jackets, coming off a four

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<v Speaker 2>to three win in overtime on Tuesdayay the sad in

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<v Speaker 2>tragic news today, seven people, including NASCAR driver Greg Biffle,

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<v Speaker 2>along with his wife and two children, died today after

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<v Speaker 2>a private jet he owned crashed at a Statesville North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Airport, there was fog, there were issues, tried to

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<v Speaker 2>turn the plane around. The fifty five year old was

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand to two NASCAR Bush Series champion, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand Craftsman Truck Series champion, and well respected and left

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<v Speaker 2>around the circuit and dies tragically today along with wife,

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<v Speaker 2>two children, and according to reports, three others. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>your headlines. We've got trags around the corner and Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>We started to talk about this off air, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into what Zach has said this week and the

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<v Speaker 2>contract extension that the club doesn't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't want to talk about, and what Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow has said this week. But I think it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>moved us too quickly past an evaluation of exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>happened on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>This team at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing for its collective playoff lives, no showed.

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<v Speaker 4>They got to be twenty four to nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the ball for thirty nine minutes, they ran

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one more plays than the Ravens, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>out gained by nighteen yards. And Zach Taylor, boy wonder

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<v Speaker 2>of the offense, engineered a offense that didn't score a

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<v Speaker 2>single point and it looked like a team that really

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<v Speaker 2>had zero interest in playing a football game. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why that isn't more talked about in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of exactly what Zach is doing and exactly how the

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<v Speaker 2>players are responding to him right now.

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<v Speaker 4>They look cold, Yeah, they look cold.

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<v Speaker 3>The car and to your point, I mean they had

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<v Speaker 3>three drives early on in the game inside the Rams

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<v Speaker 3>or Rams ravens like thirty three yard line yep, zero points.

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<v Speaker 4>That's hard to do, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll ask Trags a little bit about that, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about his exchange with Zach yesterday and more as

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<v Speaker 2>we continue. He's Rocky on Lance, Cincinnati Tax Resolution, Power

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<v Speaker 2>by Topees shown and Roundtable show Long Necks and wild

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW or at long Necks in Wilder. It

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<v Speaker 2>is the round table Show Lance, but catlist Rocky Boyman.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's jump right into it with our first guest, our regular.

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<v Speaker 2>He covers the Bengals for c LNS Sincy with thewy

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<v Speaker 2>dot com host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>the man they referred to as Trags and Mike Petrellia.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine how easy it would have been and what it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like yesterday had Duke Tobin just walked

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<v Speaker 2>into the room before Zach and said, guys, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're aware of the report. What questions can I answer

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<v Speaker 2>about my coach, my quarterback and my team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you know that's not the standard operating procedure

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<v Speaker 5>down at pay Course Stadium and it never will be.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just I mean, that's why you have to understand

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<v Speaker 5>that part of Zach Taylor's job description is to answer

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<v Speaker 5>questions to the media for the entire organization, be the

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<v Speaker 5>face of the organization, if you will, And that's why

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<v Speaker 5>he gets paid what he does by the Browns and

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<v Speaker 5>Blackburns to handle, you know, the stuff when it hits

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<v Speaker 5>the fan. And I will say, and I wrote this

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<v Speaker 5>on colnssinc dot com, he handles it with great grace.

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<v Speaker 6>He handles it with a smile.

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't get short with us for the most part,

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<v Speaker 5>and when he does, he still is pretty polite about it.

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<v Speaker 6>But that still.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't answer why he was given a two year or

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<v Speaker 5>a five year extension again after the twenty twenty two season.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody would you would think, step forward from the organization

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<v Speaker 5>and say, well, this is why we extended him twice

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<v Speaker 5>in the period of two years. That answer is not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be forthcoming, obviously. I asked that question yesterday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 5>Zach was not going to illuminate us as who came

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<v Speaker 5>about And you know, it's just part of the reality

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<v Speaker 5>of covering that beat and part of the reality of

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<v Speaker 5>the way the Bengals do business.

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<v Speaker 6>You accept it and move on.

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<v Speaker 3>So not disclosing the contract would is still ridiculous, but okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but now it's there.

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<v Speaker 4>It exists.

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<v Speaker 3>The contract extension happened. You asked Zach Taylor about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's not He can't comment on it like it's factual.

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<v Speaker 3>It exists, Like like, what was the in your opinion?

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<v Speaker 3>Why was he reluctant to even answer.

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<v Speaker 6>That, because I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he feels like he was would be betraying

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<v Speaker 5>the trust of this family that did you know that

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<v Speaker 5>gave him the extension?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh. And furthermore, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think he doesn't want to take the chance of speaking

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<v Speaker 5>out of line, which he kind of alluded to. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to speak for other people in the organization. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't get a chance to speak to other people

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<v Speaker 5>in the organization. But the reason he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>detail the contract that he signed is.

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<v Speaker 6>Because he feels there was.

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<v Speaker 5>An agreement between himself, the Blackburns, and Duke Tobin. And

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<v Speaker 5>the same can be said for Joe Burrow when he

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<v Speaker 5>negotiated his mass of two hundred and seventy five million

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<v Speaker 5>dollar contract extension. They managed to keep that pretty quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>Jamar Chase and t Higgins. When Rocky Arsenal was negotiating

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<v Speaker 5>that deal for his two clients with the team, again,

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<v Speaker 5>the details were very very quiet, and the Bengals successfully

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<v Speaker 5>over the years have kept things very close to the

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<v Speaker 5>best and that's just the way they like to do business.

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<v Speaker 5>So Zach Taylor wasn't going.

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<v Speaker 2>To step out of line with that modus opper end

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<v Speaker 2>trags of everything interesting that Joe said yesterday, Was there

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<v Speaker 2>one thing in particular that caught your ear more than

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<v Speaker 2>others yesterday?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think the obvious is that I think about

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<v Speaker 5>a lot, or you think about a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 5>He was speaking in third person when he said it,

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<v Speaker 5>But Paul Danner Junior did a fabulous job of asking

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<v Speaker 5>him if he sees a world where he's not playing

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<v Speaker 5>with the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 6>Next year, and he said, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>But going forward after that and saying, do you see

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<v Speaker 5>a world where you could play for another team down

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<v Speaker 5>the road, He's like, you think about a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Paul brought up the fact that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's always seems to be blockbuster moves every once in

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<v Speaker 5>a while in the NFL, even with the star quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 5>Dayton Manning with the Colts going to the Broncos, Tom

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<v Speaker 5>Brady going from the Patriots to the Buccaneers. And then

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Joe Burrow brought up even this year with

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<v Speaker 5>Micah Parsons being traded right before the season from Dallas

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<v Speaker 5>to Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 6>Stuff like that happens.

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<v Speaker 5>As Joe Burrow said, crazy things happen. Well read between

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<v Speaker 5>the lines. You don't have to be, you know, that

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<v Speaker 5>much of a sleuth to understand that he could be

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<v Speaker 5>referring to Joe Burrow down the road. And sure that

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<v Speaker 5>could happen down the road if things fall apart. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm not going to sit here and speculate that, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a could be a trade next.

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<v Speaker 6>Year or a year after that. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 6>do that.

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<v Speaker 5>And it'd be pretty naive and ridiculous to throw that

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<v Speaker 5>out there. But if the Bengals don't take care of business,

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<v Speaker 5>if they don't do what they need to this offseason

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<v Speaker 5>to address the defense like they did after twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>and twenty twenty one, sure if anything's on the tabletrack.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Jamar Chase spoke on Joe Burrow's behalf about

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow, and you know, maybe some of the answers

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<v Speaker 3>he gave it to questions, what is the general feeling

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<v Speaker 3>of other members on the team about Joe Burrow?

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<v Speaker 4>Has that changed at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they have any other insights that they've shared recently,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the struggles of the team and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 5>Aside from what Jamar Chase said after the game about

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<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe he'd like to see changes going forward,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe that would could happen next year.

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<v Speaker 6>He kind of walked that back a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little bit today saying that, you know, he loves the administration,

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<v Speaker 5>loves the ownership. And I asked him, well, why do

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<v Speaker 5>so many players stand up for this ownership and the

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<v Speaker 5>front office? And he said because probably the way the

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<v Speaker 5>young players are treated Shamar Stewart aside treated when they

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<v Speaker 5>get to the organization, They're treated very well.

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<v Speaker 6>They're treated with a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of loyalty and care, and I guess that means a

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<v Speaker 5>lot to the players. So Jamar Chase kind of walked

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<v Speaker 5>that back. I thought a little bit today there was

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<v Speaker 5>clearly a tone of I'm not going to go after anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not why I'm going to sit up here and take,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, take questions.

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<v Speaker 6>He also said something interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Today about you know, when you have a bad season

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<v Speaker 5>like this year, it's all part of the journey.

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Burrow said the same thing yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of players are repeating that, Look, you have

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<v Speaker 5>a terrible season. You don't want to go through a

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<v Speaker 5>terrible season, but it's part of your journey in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>And not every player gets to play on the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>ten New England Patriots and have ten years of unprecedented success.

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<v Speaker 6>The NFL is not built that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Not every player gets to play on the pat Mahons

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<v Speaker 5>Kansas City Chiefs of the last ten seasons.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not realistic.

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<v Speaker 5>And some of the Bengals are, I think, coming to

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<v Speaker 5>a reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Check in that regard drags lessen a minute. Are we

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<v Speaker 2>going to see Shamar Stewart on Sunday? And if so,

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<v Speaker 2>how important are these final three games? For him and

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<v Speaker 2>what the coaches see from him.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was in the group in the scrum around

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<v Speaker 5>Tamar Stuart and he said, Yep, I'm tracking to play

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<v Speaker 5>on Sunday. I expect to play and I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 5>to get back on the field because I've been through

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<v Speaker 5>a lot this year.

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<v Speaker 6>He's missed a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants to get that first career NFL sack, and

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<v Speaker 5>he said.

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<v Speaker 6>I was asked, does he have.

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<v Speaker 5>A celebration in mind if indeed he gets that first sack?

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<v Speaker 5>And he said, yeah, I think I'm thinking of something.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can tell that Chamar Stewart has worked hard

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<v Speaker 5>to get back to this point. Doc Taylor mentioned it

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday in his press conference that he's been very diligent.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, give Chamar Stewart a lot of credit.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been through a lot, from the contract negotiations before

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<v Speaker 5>training camp began to the injuries to this point. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to see him get on the field for the

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<v Speaker 5>final three games and kind of get some momentum going

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<v Speaker 5>for twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm sure he would too.

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<v Speaker 2>Traig's Your Price of Staying the Course is a must

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<v Speaker 2>read for those who want to read watch and follow

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<v Speaker 2>tell him how they can do that.

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<v Speaker 5>The LNS Sincy with a y dot com. You'll be

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<v Speaker 5>getting a feature in terms of looking ahead to what's

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<v Speaker 5>at stake also this weekend in Miami. I'll have that

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<v Speaker 5>up sometime tomorrow. Also, you can follow my Jungle War

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<v Speaker 5>podcast that's up on my YouTube page YouTube dot com

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<v Speaker 5>slash Jungle War Pod and has always got those highlights

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<v Speaker 5>and some of those clips from the locker room.

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<v Speaker 6>That's up on the X app. Trags tr Ags.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent stuff as always, Thank you sir.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right, gentlemen, have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Trags on the Bengals beat. We'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>time out, get to check on news and get back

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<v Speaker 2>into Zach Taylor conversation. If we continue from LONGEX and

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<v Speaker 4>Who will you say?

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<v Speaker 2>The Lions McAllister Rocky Boyman and we work our way

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<v Speaker 2>through the Bengals, get into some Bearcats coming up top

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour as well. Let's do what we do

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<v Speaker 2>each week at this time, we present our standing Ovation

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<v Speaker 2>from last week. It's presented by Ovation the Urban Resort

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<v Speaker 2>where Cincinnati coming to the Newport come together. We'll go

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<v Speaker 2>with Miles Murphy in a tough game last week overall

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<v Speaker 2>for the team, Miles Murphy certainly flashed multiple times. First

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<v Speaker 2>career two sack game. He's got four and a half

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<v Speaker 2>on the season. Miles Murphy gets our standing Ovation and

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<v Speaker 2>on the River Dot. Come all right, let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>this week's hot topic around the NFL. We'll make it

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<v Speaker 2>around the Bengals, brought to you by Hudson Oil Feeling

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<v Speaker 2>champions on and off the field. It's a combination of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll start with Zach Taylor, who Paul Dayer Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>broke the news earlier in the week. He quietly top secret,

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<v Speaker 2>got a contract extension after the twenty twenty two AFC

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game they lost to the Chiefs. So where everybody

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<v Speaker 2>thought he had one more year left on his contract

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<v Speaker 2>being next season, he now had as two more years

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<v Speaker 2>after this year left on his contract that was not

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<v Speaker 2>divulged by the team or by Zach. It's led to

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<v Speaker 2>questions about and you'll hear Kelsey Conway asked the question

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<v Speaker 2>looking for simply confirmation of that. Yesterday was the first

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<v Speaker 2>time Zach had met with the media since that report

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<v Speaker 2>from Paul Dayer Junior. Listen to the line of questioning

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<v Speaker 2>from first Kelsey Conway to Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 7>Yesterday there was a report that your contract with the

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<v Speaker 7>Bengals goes through twenty twenty seven. Can you came firm

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<v Speaker 7>if that's true? And if so, the organization decided not

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<v Speaker 7>to announce it. Do you know why the team decided.

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<v Speaker 8>Not to announce it a year after they announced.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think it won't matters. I coach every day,

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<v Speaker 9>I guess my last and I've been through years in

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<v Speaker 9>twenty nineteen, twenty twenty that were literally you coach every

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<v Speaker 9>game thinking it could be your last game. And I've

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<v Speaker 9>seen how we responded after that.

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty one twenty two.

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<v Speaker 9>Compete for division titles and championships, and so this year

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<v Speaker 9>is no different from me. It's going through adversity coaching

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<v Speaker 9>every game in this profession like it could be your

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<v Speaker 9>last one. I have a lot of confidence in our

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<v Speaker 9>staff that we're going to get this turned around and

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<v Speaker 9>we're going to finish the season really strong and put

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<v Speaker 9>together a great plan to get back to those championships

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<v Speaker 9>I mentioned.

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<v Speaker 10>So I'm very confident we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Do all that.

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<v Speaker 8>Though it is through twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not gonna respond to that.

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<v Speaker 10>I just told you.

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<v Speaker 9>I coach every day like it's my last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor yesterday, see this file is under the category

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<v Speaker 2>of they have to make everything difficult. This shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been that big a deal by not doing by not

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<v Speaker 2>announcing it, they may by now not addressing it, they

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<v Speaker 2>make it a bigger deal. I understand Zach not wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to speak for the organization. The fact is the organization

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<v Speaker 2>should have released that information, and since they didn't once

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<v Speaker 2>to become became public, then Duke Tobin should have publicly

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<v Speaker 2>made a statement or the team should have simply released

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<v Speaker 2>a press release stating we gave Zach an extension, we

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<v Speaker 2>believe him more excited about the future. But they have

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<v Speaker 2>to make things, for whatever reason, more difficult than they

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<v Speaker 2>ever should be.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a great way of describing it. You're right

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<v Speaker 3>just unnecessarily hard deal.

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<v Speaker 2>He got an extension. I mean, what, what's the top

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<v Speaker 2>secret information? And that is an objective piece of information.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like there's any opinion on it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just that's a great boy. The contract. We're just

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<v Speaker 4>looking is it true or not? We've learned it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>Could you just confirm it's But.

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<v Speaker 3>When you when you're not, when you can't comment on

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<v Speaker 3>a piece of factual information, it makes you think there's

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<v Speaker 3>something to hide exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly right, and it leads to this. Here is trags

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday following up in the course of that press Cobbert's

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<v Speaker 2>trags with Zach Taylor. Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't get a chance to talk to ownership or

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<v Speaker 5>we don't get that opportunity, what kind of assurances have

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<v Speaker 5>you given?

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<v Speaker 10>You just talk every week?

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<v Speaker 8>Every week talk about the contractor.

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<v Speaker 9>Every week we talk about everything. Contract that's not really

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<v Speaker 9>part of our conversation. Every week, we're just trying to

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<v Speaker 9>create together a great plan to win football games and

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<v Speaker 9>make sure our team's ready to go, make sure I'm

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<v Speaker 9>ready to go. So I know that's of curiosity to

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<v Speaker 9>you guys, but we're just focused on being the not.

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<v Speaker 8>Say that's reassessed after the season every years. Ask them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>we don't get a chance.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, Well I'm sorry, Okay, I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Just being straightforward with that. We would ask them, but

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<v Speaker 8>we don't get about okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just can't make it up. You just

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<v Speaker 2>can't make up this type of comedy. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing? What are we doing? I just

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it doesn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they're saying, look, we don't want you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do out there talking because you know, then it creates

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<v Speaker 3>headlined No, no, this creates headlines. Can go if he

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<v Speaker 3>goes out there and just says, hey, here's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's ways of answering questions without really answering them.

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<v Speaker 3>But at least there's some you don't feel like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a transparency that people feel and there's not that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>exist right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brenham in This Morning does his has his weekly

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Zach, and Tom asked Zach about this very

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<v Speaker 2>line of questioning and Zach having to speak for the

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<v Speaker 2>organization without anybody else willing to speak. Here's what Tom

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<v Speaker 2>asked in how Zach answered.

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<v Speaker 11>Does it ever get tough? For you, because I got

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<v Speaker 11>to be honest with you, I do feel for you

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<v Speaker 11>oftentimes in having to basically be the spokesperson for the

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<v Speaker 11>entire franchise almost on a daily basis, Does it wear

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<v Speaker 11>on you at all?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 12>No, I embrace it. I like the approach that we have.

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<v Speaker 12>I look around the league and there's plenty of instances

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 12>where you would hope that people wouldn't talk. And because

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.239
<v Speaker 12>it's just it's a lot of different voices and now

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 12>you get a lot of different opinions and you get

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 12>to cipher through you know they have the same page

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 12>or not. And so I know from working in this

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 12>building and being with everybody every day, ownership personnel, that

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 12>we are on the same page.

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<v Speaker 10>We're very like minded.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't mind during the season at all being the

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<v Speaker 12>one that speaks. I think that's the right way to

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 12>do it. And again, because I've seen around the league

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 12>where you just wish people would would not talk. And

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 12>so again everyone's got their opinion, everyone's got their style.

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 12>This is what works for us, and I'm fully on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Up earlier this morning, Tom Brendaman here on seven hundred

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>WLW with Zach Taylor Rock, I will repeat what I

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 2>tweeted yesterday and I've printed it out so I can

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.719
<v Speaker 2>read it word for word. It is patently absurd that

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Zach is forced by the organization to be the one

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<v Speaker 2>that is uncomfortable and defensive in addressing questions about things

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>done by the organization. It is the structure and the

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 2>float chart of responsibility and accountability is out of whacken

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 2>this franchise because Zach should not be answering when Trey

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 2>is holding out.

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 4>That should be Duke Tobin.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Zach should not be asked to comment on Shamar Stewart's

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>hold out. That should be Duke Tobin. When Jermaine Burton

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 2>is released, that should be Duke Tobin talking about his

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>draft pick and why I was released. When Joe Burrow

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>says what he says, the comment should be in reaction

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>from Duke Toobin about the organization. It's just that stuff

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>should not be on the plate. And it's the one

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>part of me that leads me to feel sorry. As

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 2>much as you can feel sorry for an NFL head

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 2>coach making a nice paycheck, but it makes me feel

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>sorry for Zach that he is forced into being the

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>face and representative in answering all of those questions. It

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>is ridiculous.

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:24.959
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this, So is that like explicitly

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>stated before they hire a head coach, which you.

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Know it is understood.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it okay? Is it stated or is it just

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 4>along the way.

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. And consider this. Zach Taylor is

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>required by the NFL to speak three times a week

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Sunday after the game, Monday afternoon and Wednesday afternoon required

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>three times a week. This organization speaks three times in

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>a calendar year. They speak with Duke at the Senior Bowl,

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 2>they speak at the Combine, and they speak on media

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Day to open up training camp.

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Three times.

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>The organization speaks about what they're doing and why they're

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 2>doing it, while the coach is forced to do it

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 2>three times a week by the league. It's just it's

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>not fair and it's not right.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, and this is the only organization that operates

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 3>this way correct.

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 4>And look, I.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Don't I don't want Jerry Jones would be the extreme

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>because Jerry's out there answering every question, holds a news

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 2>conference after every game. I go back to what you

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>said a couple of weeks ago. I'd forgotten about Bill

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Polly and actually actually doing a weekly radio show when

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you were playing, where he would take calls from people

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and he would answer questions about why the organization does things.

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 4>Just I just do.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like out of care and respect for

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 3>your head coach. Yes, you should not want him to

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 3>have to be burned with all the other stuff that

0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 3>he already is burdened by.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>That is a fantastic point that that may be if you.

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 4>It just I don't care.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>It just it drives me crazy, and I go back

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to Trags wrote this in his piece for CLNS Sincy,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and Zach uses that line that really bothers me when

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>he talks about when things are going poorly and he

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 2>says we're all accountable for that, and yet they're not

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>because is Trags wrote in the piece, there are no

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 2>consequences for failure. There are none, there's no consequences for failure,

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and yet Zach will continually say we're all accountable to

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 2>that and for that, well, I don't even know what

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 2>that means, because nobody's ever held accountable for anything. I mean,

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you have the the those making the decision who aren't

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>accountable because they tell the coach to go explain it

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to everybody. I just I don't know. I don't know.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>And here we are at four and ten. Take a

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>time out and continue. Let's get into the defensive side

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 2>of things and more on what transpired on Sunday.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 4>It is six forty eight.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>It's the Roundtable Show Long nex in Wider presented by

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Postman Law seven hundred WLW close it in on seven o'clock.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 2>We're rolling tonight. Chad Brendall, the barricat journal checks in

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>at seven. Lance McAllister rockey boyman. I assume the kids

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>are fired up, ready for Christmas.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:28.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, they're fired up.

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Their last day of school is today. Now do you

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>like Christmas morning? Is there a set time? This is

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>what I ran into. This is why I'm asking because

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>when Casey and Peyton were little, it was whenever they

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>got up Christmas began, and that could be like six

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to fifteen in the morning. I will say I miss

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the I will always maintain I missed the pitter patter

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>of their feet, hearing them run down the hallway Christmas

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>morning into our bedroom. But if it was six fifteen,

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>that's when Christmas started. As they've gotten older, we've had

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to negotiate with the time for Casey to actually get up,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>because if it were up to him, he's looks all

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>about noon and Christmas would start around twelve thirty. So

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>we've gone through that that change of Christmas dud. Do

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>you have a set parameter when they are up?

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 3>You go, No, with a seven and a five year old,

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 3>it is whenever they wake up, which is I gotta

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 3>say they've they've not gotten up at you know, five

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 3>thirty six in the morning, you know, seven, seven thirty.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I assume you've learned that there'll be no assembling of

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>toys the night before. You either buy them assembled or

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't buy them. Or are you one who likes

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to assemble toys?

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I don't mind it, but yeah, I

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 3>usually do it, Yeah, after the gift has opened.

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Unless yeah, I'd say all right, do it afterward.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do a couple of things before the top of

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the air. Let's do the injury report Postman Law. Injury

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<v Speaker 2>report delivered by Postman Law Injured Postman delivereds We'll go

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<v Speaker 2>with T. Higgins, who was still in can cushion protocol

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<v Speaker 2>and is while that listed is doubtful, I would think

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>it would be doubtful that he would play. On Sunday,

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>we review last week's defensive play of the game. Brought

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Safe to say the biggest progress this show has made

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>from week one to now is my mastering of that car.

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<v Speaker 4>It just rolls off the top. I mean, at one

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 4>point Phyllis had to hold you a Q car.

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>That's how bad it got.

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Yes, but here we are.

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Like the first four weeks, I was a mess, and

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>then for like week five it was clearly in my head.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>And then by week six Phyllis just felt so sorry

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 2>for me. She just stood up in the middle of

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the show and held up a card for me to read.

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>You know you're getting good at this. You may have

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 3>a future in this talk radio thing man.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>By the way, thanks to Frand and Phillis. Fran and

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>his lovely wife Phyllis were very kind of giving us

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 2>little Christmas goodie back.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, this was this minor ours, It says.

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky, so I assume it's you were I put mine

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in my back.

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<v Speaker 4>Chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice. That was very nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Guys, thank you, and it's good to have Mike Mills here.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the stars in our photo that we took

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>last week that Fran you know, was it may have

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 2>been the best picture Frans taken because the flash was

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>working and it was perfectly framed.

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 4>He's gotten better as the season's gone on.

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Strike progress me, Frian, progress, Absolutely, I had something else. Oh,

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>let me do what we're doing.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 4>I told you this is gonna be one of those shows.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's review. All of this will get me going. Let's

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>review last week's drive of the game, brought to you

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0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Bengals are down seventeen to nothing last week, and if

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you were ever wondering about their desire to just go home,

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 2>they were down seventeen and managed to go on a

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>sixteen play drive covering eighty five yards that consumed eight

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>minutes off the clock. They didn't score any points, but

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching and they're huddling up, and there's forty seconds

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>ticking off the clock from one.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Play to the next.

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>They were down by three scores and they just they

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>took eight I've never heard of a team down three

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 2>scores going on a sixteen play eight minute drive just

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>taking their time as though they just wanted to get

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>things over with and go home.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the thing is, you know, it takes as

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 3>a longer amount of plays, but there wasn't the urgency

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>in between play.

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Hey, let's get up on the line.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 3>I know they have a no huddle offense where they

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 3>communicate the enhand signal.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 4>And all that, but let's huddle walk to the line.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 4>What do you think? I agree.

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I think they were like, you know what, this just

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 3>flat ain't happening today. Let's get out. I mean, the

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 3>last half a quarter of the game was you know,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 3>just and see.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 4>That's why, really, I.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Go back to what I said earlier, of all the

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>things that happened. And you can debate Zach, you can

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>debate Joe. I don't think there's been nearly enough like

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>spotlight shining white hot light on. Would somebody like to

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>explain how, with the season on the line, playing at home,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:15.239
<v Speaker 2>that team turned in that performance, Because I guarantee you

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that performance, especially driven by an offensive minded coach whose

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>team scored collectively zero points, that performance would have gotten

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>somebody fired in thirty one other NFL cities.

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 4>I have no doubt in my.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Mind, especially considering there's been other multiple examples of where

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 3>the team has not looked good or not played well.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like this was just some fluke right out

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>of the blue sort of situation.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 4>No, that we've seen this kind of before. This was

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 4>just the culmination.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Fourth time losing by at least twenty two points in

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a game this year, and we certainly remember the stretch

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>that's hard in the NFL. It absolutely the NFL is

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>is competitive that these days right now in terms of

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>merging of victory as it's been maybe ever in The

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Bengals have lost four times by twenty two points and

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>went through a three week stretch with Jake Browning where

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>they simply weren't competitive. They didn't even look like an

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 2>NFL team. And yet not only does nothing happen now,

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>nothing's gonna happen going into the offseason. That's the thing

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>that leaves fans just and friend just wanting to.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 4>Pull their hair out.

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>It's I mean, fans are feeling the same thing Joe

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Burrow did. I think last week.

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a great way put it's, you.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Know, is the realization that this isn't just all of

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 3>a sudden gonna change and be different next year. It's

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be the same thing, same characters, same cast,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 3>same people leading it.

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 13>Uh.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to mention I read the card. For the

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 2>defensive play of the game, I'll go with Jordan Battle,

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 2>who came up with the interception, his fourth of the season.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Quick thought on the defense Dan the hour, I ask

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Trags about Shamar Stewart. I think it's rather important is

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna play. I think these next three games, in terms

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>of anybody on this roster, they may be no more

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>important than it for anybody but him in terms of

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>needing to do something for him to feel good, needing

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to do something for the coaches to feel good going

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>into the off season.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or else.

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he is in a bunch of drafts of

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>of you know where they haven't turned out.

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, this would be the bust of all busts, and

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 4>it is.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it is just patently incomprehensible how a guy

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 3>that big and that fast, with that kind of skill

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 3>set can't get at least even more tackles. There's got

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>to be some something he has to show here in

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>these last three games.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's one hour in the books. That was fun,

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<v Speaker 2>Next up the Liberty Bowl versus Navy in Memphis on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>January second. For more on that and all things UCE athletics,

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<v Speaker 2>is welcome in from Bearcat Journal dot com. Chad Barndel.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you.

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 13>Well. I missed the mark. I'm letting my dogs out

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 13>by I think thirty seconds.

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.479
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh, mess out.

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 13>It was not raining when I walked in, because I

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 13>was coming home from filling in from O and I

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 13>waited thirty seconds and I went to let them out,

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 13>and it's now pouring down rain here in Independence, Kentucky.

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.439
<v Speaker 13>So the dogs took one step outside, turned around, looked

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 13>at me and said, no, thank you sir.

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's start with as much as we've talked about

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>departures in the portal, let's talk about the news of

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 2>significance today, the retention of three offensive linemen who are

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna run it back, and good news for the Bearcats.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Detail who's returning and how significant that is.

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 13>Well, it's probably gonna be the entire left side of

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 13>your line. You're gonna have Jokob, who was one of

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 13>the highest ranked transfers in the portal, had a very

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 13>good first year at Cincinnati. He's coming back. Evan Tengestahl,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 13>who has in many regards, been named an All American

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 13>second third team All American for his first season as

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 13>a starter at left guard, and then Taran TiO, who

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 13>played right guard this year. My anticipation is that Tyo

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 13>will move to center next year. So left guard, left

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 13>tackle and center coming back for next year. That certainly

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 13>raises your floor. If you're looking at you know, what

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 13>is this team? What is the next iteration of Scott

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 13>Saderfield football look like? At Cincinnati? Having those three guys back, Boy,

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 13>you can sell a portal quarterback on that big time. Hey,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 13>you're going to be protected. You can sell running backs

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 13>in the portal on it. You can sell running back

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 13>that you have on your robster that you'd like to keep. Hey,

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 13>you know, we've got the line coming back. So it's

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 13>a big first step in stabilizing the roster for twenty

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:13.479
<v Speaker 13>twenty six.

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of quarterback, the Bearcats couldn't find him easily four

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 3>million dollars apparently to keep Brandon swersby. So that means

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess Lichtenberg and more are the options. Who do

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 3>you think starts this bowl game? And then what do

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 3>you think happens? Are either of those two guys or

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 3>more in the mix for next season?

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 13>Well, Brady Lichtenberg actually his freshman year at UC was

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 13>nineteen eighty four.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 4>He's been there a little while.

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 13>Yes, so this is this is it for Lickti his

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 13>last who Rah? I do anticipate that he will start

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 13>in the bowl game. Samas Jones is a red shirt freshman.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 13>He will play at some point in time. I'm in

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 13>Memphis on the third or on the second, excuse me,

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 13>and then I think he will. He'll be around to

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 13>compete for the job. They're gonna They've got Brooks Goodman

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 13>coming in as a freshman who they really like a lot,

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 13>but true freshman, you're gonna have to hit the portal

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 13>for one starting level quarterback, and you might have to

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 13>hit the portal for potentially a backup guy just to

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 13>get that room back up to size because that's you know,

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 13>you need four five quarterbacks in that room, and right

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 13>now it's gonna be sam Os Jones and a freshman,

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 13>so gonna have to bulk up that room in the

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 13>portal for sure. And by the way, Rock four million

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 13>is a very low ball number on what Brandon Stores

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 13>is going to get. I've I've heard five north of

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 13>five at times.

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Wow, oh pays to be a quarterback.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I realize Navy doesn't exactly sling it around the field.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 2>I think they average fourteen passes a game, but that

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the current status of the UC secondary appears rather sparse,

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>does it not.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 13>I think Heagan is suiting up tomorrow.

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 6>It's safety.

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 13>It's gonna be ugly, but I'm gonna be there, you know,

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 13>at eleven o'clock to watch. Yeah, they're they're gonna be relying,

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 13>and honestly, I don't hate it because you're gonna need

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 13>a lot of these freshmen and red shirt freshmen to

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 13>show growth and you're gonna at least through these Bowl practices.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 13>And even though Navy doesn't throw the ball a ton,

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 13>they throw it more than a standard triple option team

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 13>this year. Usually triple option teams will throw four times, yeah,

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 13>in a game, and they throw fourteen, So I mean

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 13>break out the air raid. But you're gonna need to

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 13>see what you've got in some of these guys and

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.919
<v Speaker 13>to see if you can throw them in there, put

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 13>their feet to the fire and see if they can

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 13>hold their own. Because you know, if we're at that

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 13>point right, a lot of people are worried. We haven't

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 13>seen anything from the high school guys. It's a developmental program.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 13>You don't see a lot of freshmen and red shirt

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 13>freshmen on the field. But now these guys are getting

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 13>into the second third year in the program. You're gonna

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 13>need to find out what you got. If the guys

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 13>that you know really the only one I think they

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 13>really would have liked to keep with Christian Harrison. I'm

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 13>sure they would have been okay if Takuan Sanks would

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 13>have stayed around, But I don't think they were going

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 13>to overpay at that spot because you already have Antoine

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 13>Pete there. So let's find out what we got. Let's

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.439
<v Speaker 13>see throw these guys' feet to the fire and see

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.439
<v Speaker 13>how they hold up against you know, a Navy team

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 13>that's gonna be physical, get down in the box, make

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 13>some tackles. Boys.

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Gotta ask you a basketball question. James has clearly been

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 2>through a lot. He had a nice moment last night.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I was happy for him last night. He was smiling

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>last night. Give me a big picture observation of this situation,

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and what do you make of it?

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 13>Is it what I would have done bringing him back

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 13>this early from the situation he went through?

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 10>No?

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 13>Probably not. Is it what I would have done if

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 13>I had a multimillion dollar a year job on the

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 13>line and had my leading scorer from a year ago

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 13>at practice but not on the floor for games.

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 13>Probably. And that's not to excuse Wes Miller. That's just

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 13>reality of the situation. There's not a whole lot of

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 13>multimillion dollars a year jobs out there. If you've got

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 13>one of them, I imagine you're you're gonna do whatever

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 13>you can to try to keep it. That's where kind

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 13>of this falls for me. He thought Gigzle could help him,

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 13>and there's other things. Obviously. You could see his teammates

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 13>were really happy to have Gizzle back yesterday, laughing, smiling

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 13>on the bench, having a good time, enjoying him coming

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 13>back and playing well. The injuries are mounting up. Like

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 13>I get some of the stuff that WEX talked about

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 13>in the post game, but for me, let's be honest here.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.720
<v Speaker 13>They need wins. They were six and four. Yeah, times

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 13>running out and there is no next year if they

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 13>don't get this thing figured out. So putting Jills James

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 13>back on the floor. I get it from a coaches standpoint,

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 13>just want to make sure it ends up being the

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 13>right thing by the kid. Yes, and at least the

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 13>early returns are good.

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 6>Good.

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Like going on a portal the bowl game basketball, you

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:42.280
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0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.520
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<v Speaker 6>Everything.

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<v Speaker 13>A tracker of who's going in the portal, a tracker

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:53.480
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0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:58.880
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0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.399
<v Speaker 13>basketball game. At this point, there is a lot going on,

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.839
<v Speaker 13>and the Bearcat Journal team, as you covered for all

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:17.760
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0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 13>and December as I can ever remember, sands a coaching change.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you, sir, appreciate you guys. You all have a

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 13>great Christmas. I don't know what the plan is for

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:32.799
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<v Speaker 2>We will let you know. Thanks sir, Christmas. There you go,

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<v Speaker 2>the start. Mike McDaniel, perhaps coaching for his job at

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals, going to Miami where they go from ten

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>degrees at kickoff last week to it's going to be

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 2>about seventy eight degrees at kickoff on Sunday, slight difference

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>in temperature when the Bengals and Dolphins hook up come Sunday.

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrows spoke yesterday. And when Joe speaks, he's very

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>He's very reflective, very thoughtful. Joe doesn't say things just

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>to say things. And when Joe talks, people listen. So

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 2>let's listen to a couple of things he said yesterday. First,

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Joe talking about with three games left, that much discussed,

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 2>should Joe play. Here's what Joe said.

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<v Speaker 14>Feels like everybody's trying to do everything in their power

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 14>to make me not play football, and I feel like.

0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 10>I'm fighting it, like fighting everybody else. I just want

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 10>to play. I just want to play ball. That's all

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 10>I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Speculation after last week, just in general about your comments

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 3>last week, how much do you love playing a lot?

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<v Speaker 6>Every year?

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 10>Ever?

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Thought about?

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 14>Not we think about it, but you think about a

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 14>lot of different things and in your life, just like

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 14>everybody does.

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 10>You think about all different possibilities that could happen. I'm

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 10>gonna be playing for a long time.

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 14>I expect to play for a long time, and expect

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 14>to play well and consistently great for a long time.

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 8>Is anybody in the building trying to get you to

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 8>not play?

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 10>No? What's it like.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 8>Here and your fans? You'd like to phtograph we'd like at.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, how frustrating is it to hear that given all

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the work that you put in, I mean, is your

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 2>reaction with people kind of say stuff like that.

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 14>Obviously, fans are going to have their opinions about what

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 14>their favorite teams should or shouldn't do.

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 10>That's what makes the sport great.

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 14>That's why revenues are so high, and that's why we

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 14>get paid so much, because fans care a lot about.

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 10>What we do and who we are and all things

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.439
<v Speaker 10>that come with that. So that's part of it.

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 14>That's something that you have to number one, embrace. Number

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 14>two take with a grain of salt a lot. This

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 14>comes with the territory.

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Are we cool with Joe playing the final three games?

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because you know, if he's healthy, which he is,

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 3>he absolutely should. I we live in the day and

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 3>age of in the NBA. There's load management, right, which I.

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 4>Think is ridiculous.

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, at the end of the day, this is

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 3>a game for fans and they pay money to see

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 3>star players and I can't.

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't watch the NBA or go to games, but

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'd be upset to to holy hell

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.800
<v Speaker 3>if I went and they're being guys just didn't play.

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 4>So I think Joe Burrow should play.

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm glad you said that because I've

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 2>been looking at this is perfect on January. I think

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it's January the second the Pacers play the San Antonio

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Spurs and Victor Webbin Yamba, the big guy, the freak,

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and I will to see Victor Weben Yama, and Casey

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 2>wants to see him. And I thought, and I've been

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>tracking tickets at Gamebridge Fieldhouse to go to the game,

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 2>but I thought it would be our luck. We'd buy

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 2>tickets to this game and Victor would not play in

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that game. And we had an experienced a couple of

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>years ago where we wanted to see Steph Curry play,

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 2>and we bought tickets, and we drove to Indianapolis and

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 2>we were standing in line to get in with our

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>tickets about to be checked by the usher, and I

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>looked on Twitter and I saw a note from the

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Golden State Warriors beat writer and he said Steph Curry

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 2>will not play tonight, He'll rest. And it just forever

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 2>changed how I look at buying tickets in advance of

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>anything based on variables like that, and I just I

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have a guarantee. Victor Wemben Yama is gonna play

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:51.720
<v Speaker 2>on January the second, so I'm not gonna buy tickets

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 2>and drive over.

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:54.799
<v Speaker 4>And You're not the only one that looks at that way.

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's killing the NBA, especially back in

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 3>an era when in the NBA hey day, back when

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I was younger and watching it.

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Guy's played because that's what you do.

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 3>If you're a football player and you're healthy, you should

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 3>play football.

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Very well said. Here is Joe reacting to the thought,

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 2>the sense that there will not be changes in this

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>organization structurally this off season. Here's QB one.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 10>I think we have great coaches.

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 14>I think we're consistently putting good positions to make plays

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 14>and do our best. Obviously, there's good games in bad games,

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 14>just like players have good games in bad games. Because

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 14>I have a lot of confidence and everybody that's putting

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 14>together the plans for us weekend and week out, that's

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 14>time to say that changes don't need to be made.

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 14>Not saying personnel or people. I'm just saying, you know,

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 14>what we've been doing hasn't worked the last couple of years,

0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:59.919
<v Speaker 14>so you know, we have to think outside the box

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 14>to creative about where we go from here.

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a very interesting final part of that statement.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 2>It's clear it hasn't worked and we need to be

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>think out of the box and do things differently. Are

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 2>they willing to do that as an organization? Well, Joe

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Burrow has always.

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Been pretty savvy about, you know, getting his point across

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 3>to the right ears in a press conference, which is

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 3>what you want out of your quarterback. You want somebody

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 3>that has the savvy to be able to do that

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:31.399
<v Speaker 3>and the message has been transferred.

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:33.240
<v Speaker 4>Will anybody listen?

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess prior examples would tell you no.

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Very well said. Again, here's one more from Joe. This

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 2>is Joe Burrow being asked about voicing his opinion on

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 2>potential changes.

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 8>Have you voiced your opinion to them? Cront office?

0:52:53.320 --> 0:53:00.359
<v Speaker 10>We have constant communication, a lot of conversations. A pretty

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 10>vague question.

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:02.280
<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 8>You can be a specific.

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I know you guys, I know I can.

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 14>There's always conversations being had about different perspectives about what's

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 14>happening and what's going on that are being shared with

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 14>the big changes.

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 13>Would you expect them to them talk to.

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 10>You about them?

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 14>If they were having conversations about that, about big potential changes,

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 14>head coach, director, play friends, stuff like that. I appreciate

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 14>being informed those decisions that are being made. That's not

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 14>to say that I need to be involved in the

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:49.840
<v Speaker 14>decision making processes, but I enjoy being kept up to

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 14>date about thought processes and.

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 10>Decision making trees.

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow, I very much enjoy listening to him because

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 2>he's very he you can tell he's thinking as he's

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>saying it. It's very thoughtful. It's not off the cuff,

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's trying to find the right word. And and

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.880
<v Speaker 2>he's somebody who does not say something just to say something.

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He says something message absolutely.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Here's one more. This is a line of questioning from

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Paul Dayer Junior to Joe Burrow yesterday. Take a listen.

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Is there, ever, is there any world in your mind

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.359
<v Speaker 2>when you're not a quarterback with the Fangals next year.

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:31.320
<v Speaker 13>I couldn't.

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 10>I couldn't. I can't see that now.

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 11>I didn't ever both thought about the possibility of not

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.920
<v Speaker 11>being the quarterback here during your career or.

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 10>Do you think about a lot of things?

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, you think about a lot of things. You do.

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you're wondering that rather annoying click,

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 2>that's everybody on their laptops. There's a mic. At least

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 2>they have added a mic this year. You can hear

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the questions. The downside to having the mic there that

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 2>closes you hear everybody typing? Is the beat right?

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 2>So under It's the give and take of all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>a little oh oh before college football. I have a

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 2>high school state championship game moment I need to tell

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 2>you about. I talked about it earlier in the week.

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 2>This happened in Louisiana on Friday night, all losing a

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 2>state championship game.

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Unbelievable.

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Team is up one, there's thirty five seconds left. They

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 2>have the ball first down. They're gonna kneel it out.

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 2>They're just gonna take these and end the game. On

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 2>first down, they kneel it. The offensive lineman in celebration

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and expectation the clock is just gonna run out, takes

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 2>his helmet off, throws it up in the air and celebration.

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Flag unsportsmanlike conduct for removal of the helmet that stops

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the clock. That allows the other team to not have

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to burn their time out. So then they take the

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>timeout on second down to stop the clock. Take the

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:41.399
<v Speaker 2>timeout on third down, stop the clock, forcing them to punt.

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:46.879
<v Speaker 2>They punt its blocked team recovers, throws one pass down

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to like the twenty seven yard line, and kicks a

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.439
<v Speaker 2>game winning field goal.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 4>I showed my wife clip and horrifying.

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, because one hand you're just so mad at the kid,

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.240
<v Speaker 3>and the other hand you're like crush for him because

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 3>his whole life, he's.

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Gonna think about that moment.

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought in that moment, it was like, I forget

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 3>if they had timeouts left or whatever, and you don't

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:13.479
<v Speaker 3>want to call a timeout. But it's almost like worth

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 3>the coach saying, all right, guys, we're gonna win the game.

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no one, you know, no, panic, don't.

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Panic, don't mf somebody, don't take your helmet off.

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 4>We're ahead. Let's just calmly go when the time.

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 2>And the other the other aspect, I get kind of

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 2>complicated if I explained it.

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 4>But the the the.

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Game winning field goal was kicked by the kid who

0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>a minute earlier in the game had missed the point

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>after that would have tied the game. That's why they

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 2>were or yeah, uh no, I further confused that scratch that.

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 2>It gets really complicated and I shouldn't have tried to

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 2>explain it. Okay, but yeah, they they had missed it earlier. Yeah,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he had missed an earlier kick, and that was the

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 2>different game at that point, and oh throws the helmet

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 2>in celebration, just thinks the clock's going to take the

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 2>zero and they're going to go home. And and in fact,

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I well you saw the same video. Some of the

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>players were turning and celebrating with the fans in the

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.520
<v Speaker 2>stands in high five. But I'm thinking they'd won the

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 2>game and the yellow flag comes out.

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember this? This is why do I remember this?

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 3>But this two thousand and two Cleveland Browns first or

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 3>second game of the year.

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Barrett, Barrett Rudd or what was his name? I

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 2>know who, Yes, Derrick Rudd. I think it's Barrett. I

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 2>know who you're talking Derrick Rudd.

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Like you know helmet, like say, the same thing, thinks

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 3>to win the game, Helmet tosses right, game, can't stop

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 3>on a defensive penalty, Ye, so and so gets the ball.

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 4>Back, same sort of scenario.

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 3>And I remember that because we played the Browns the

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:42.880
<v Speaker 3>next week and Jeff Fisher put that on the film

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 3>to talk about that. He said the Browns are a

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<v Speaker 3>helmet toss away from being three and ozer or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, anyway, Dwayne.

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<v Speaker 4>Rudd out of Dwayne Rudder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Heisman.

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Heisman is official for Nando Mendoza becomes the first Indiana

0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Hoosier to ever win the Heisman Trophy. We were again

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>this year with a chance to vote in the process.

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>It's an online process. You enter your first place, second place,

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<v Speaker 2>third place submit, not allowed to talk about it till

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<v Speaker 2>after it's done. I will give you my final ballot

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<v Speaker 2>and then you give me yours if you're ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>In third place, I voted Jeremiah Love, running back Notre Dame.

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic season carried a lot of responsibility and weight of

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 2>that season with what he did as the running back.

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And two, I took Diego Diego Pavia, who lifted an

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 2>elevated Vanderbilt to place as they'd never gone before. He

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 2>was dynamic throwing the football, he was dynamic running the football,

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 2>rush for over eight hundred yards total, thirty plus touchdowns

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 2>on the air and on the ground. And at number one,

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<v Speaker 2>I voted for Fernando Mendoza, Indiana Hoosiers talking about taking

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 2>a team where they hadn't gone and turned in a

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 2>magical season.

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<v Speaker 4>He had moments.

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.439
<v Speaker 2>He had the Penn State throw with some help catch

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of the end zone, made a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of spectacular throws in the Big Ten championship game, I

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<v Speaker 2>went Mendoza one, Pavia two, loved three, and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't vote for a fourth, But I had Julian

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<v Speaker 2>saying fourth if I would have been asked, how did

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<v Speaker 2>your ballot? In turn look for the Heisman?

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<v Speaker 3>But by the way, am I not to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>I always vote before the championship games because I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't want I don't want interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want one game to sway my because I

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<v Speaker 3>think you could make an argument, not from your case,

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<v Speaker 3>but for Mendoza.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because he did have a couple of great throws

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<v Speaker 4>in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand. That's part of the process. To is

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<v Speaker 2>the recency bias of it. It's an extra game that

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<v Speaker 2>some other guys don't get. How much do you weigh

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<v Speaker 2>at it? Yeah, that's that's fair anyway. No, I'm very worthy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went number three Mendoza because I just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think he had I'm not a stats guy, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think you had massive number, not massive numbers. Number two

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<v Speaker 3>Pavia because I thought he was such a great story

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<v Speaker 3>and unconventional, and I got to see him when.

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<v Speaker 4>He played for New Mexico State.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget being in Jerry Kill's office is in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, week zero, and he's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>got this quarterback. He saves Diego Poppy. He's from such

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<v Speaker 3>and such junior college. He was a great high school wrestler.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the kid walks in the room and he's

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<v Speaker 3>like five foot eleven and you're like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 4>And he was. He was awesome, right, just he just

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<v Speaker 4>found a way to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I had a privilege of calling Vanderbilt again

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<v Speaker 3>this year and by that time he was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>So loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're telling me at number one, Yes, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just being a good homer.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I thought, in a year where.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't a that dominant five, you know whatever, the

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<v Speaker 3>top top quarterback guy, I thought, Jeremiah loves performance.

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<v Speaker 4>And you talk about being the MVP of a team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he was definitely the MVP of a really, really

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<v Speaker 3>good Notre Dame team. That's why I and I took

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of heat. Imagine this from Ohio State fans.

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<v Speaker 2>And why do you have to say and fourth, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I could only pick three guys, and it's no disrespect

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<v Speaker 2>to justin saying and or Julian saying, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the type who who penalizes somebody because of either system

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<v Speaker 2>or weapons. But let's be honest. He I mean his

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver weapons helped elevate him as well. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I mean, that's not I just I default to

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<v Speaker 2>I had three spots, and I just thought the other

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<v Speaker 2>three were better than Julian saying. That doesn't mean I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like Julian saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So there the fact that you have to justify that

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<v Speaker 3>says something about some Ohio State fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll leave it at that. There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, there were six different regions of the

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<v Speaker 2>country that vote, and the voting is added up by

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<v Speaker 2>in each region, and every five of the six regions

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<v Speaker 2>went Mendoza Pavia, Love saying five of the six had.

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<v Speaker 3>A region went Love, Pavia.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not see that one. I see the Southwest

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<v Speaker 2>where saying was bumped down to fifth because Jacob Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 2>of Texas Tech, the linebacker, moved up to fourth in

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<v Speaker 2>that region. Rodriguez got seventeen first place votes and finished

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<v Speaker 2>fifth overall. So there you go. It's always an honor

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<v Speaker 2>for us, and I always I always enjoy because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to It's not that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be like everyone else, but I'm always curious, like, am

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna wind up close to what the consensus is?

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<v Speaker 2>Or am I going to be the outlier? And then

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm the outlier, did I screw it up? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is it too easy to go with the flow?

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<v Speaker 4>And you don't want to be the outlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to be the outlier, you want to send people

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<v Speaker 2>jelly bye they find out ham are you yes? The

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<v Speaker 2>college football playoffs start this weekend. We'll make that part

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<v Speaker 2>of by the way, hold on here, I'm looking through

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<v Speaker 2>all my notes and I want to make sure. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>Playoffs get going this weekend, you know, And this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>really a topic other than an observation. I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated rock just because I like numbers of Since the

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<v Speaker 2>college football playoffs started, there have been eleven editions of

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<v Speaker 2>this and Traditionally, the games aren't close, and it's always

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<v Speaker 2>odd to me that the committee's job is to select

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<v Speaker 2>the best teams and then pin them against each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet the margins of victory are rarely close.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I keep track of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been forty one college football playoff games over

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<v Speaker 2>eleven seasons, the twenty two semi final games. The average

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<v Speaker 2>margin of victory in those games has been seventeen points.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been eleven national Of the last eleven national

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<v Speaker 2>championship games, the average margin of victory is just over

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen points, which is odd me because you would think

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<v Speaker 2>this process would would get us test and narrow it

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<v Speaker 2>down to the best playing the best. And yet you

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<v Speaker 2>know last year's title game the Hio State Dame Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State Notre Dame was eleven. Michigan the year before won

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty one over Washington. Georgia BATTCU by fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia beat Bamba by fifteen, Bamba beat Ohio State by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight. LSU beat Clemson by seventeen. Championship game, semi finals,

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<v Speaker 2>And of the course of these eleven years, there have

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<v Speaker 2>been margins of victory of fifty eight thirty nine thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, thirty one, twenty eight, twenty eight. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's odd to me that it hasn't the system

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't produced better games, and I don't I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>an explanation for that. I just find it curious.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I project this? Yes, maybe starting this year that

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<v Speaker 4>that trend will die off and it'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Be closer because because of the portal, there's less dominant

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<v Speaker 3>team tams. Like you go about four years ago, some

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<v Speaker 3>of those Georgia Alabama teams. Yes, they were the best

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<v Speaker 3>because they had great depth. Well, now teams don't have

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<v Speaker 3>depth because the fifth or the sixth offensive lineman on

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia goes and plays somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe that'll that'll die.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're wondering the spreads for the opening round, Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>is a twenty one point favorite over James Madison, Ole

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<v Speaker 2>Miss seventeen and a half points over Tulane. Oklahoma is

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<v Speaker 2>a one point favorite over Bama and Texas A and

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<v Speaker 2>m a three point favorite over Miami. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say we head down the stretch and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the get go? Can we do that? He's rocky,

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<v Speaker 2>E d U. All Right, tell me the story of

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<v Speaker 2>the gecko.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let's start from the beginning here though, So

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<v Speaker 3>besides me and Kelly and are three boys. We also

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<v Speaker 3>have Elvis the Golden Retriever, who just turned sixteen. We

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<v Speaker 3>have Ryan Know the Golden Retriever, who we think is

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<v Speaker 3>like six or seven, but we're not sure, okay. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we recently added Chase the Gecko. His full name

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<v Speaker 3>is Jamar Chase the Gecko. Okay, Cass what Bronson?

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<v Speaker 4>It was his thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Which and by the way, geckos are very expensive. Apparently

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<v Speaker 3>you got to know a guy. Oh, my mother in

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<v Speaker 3>law knows a guy. All right, So got the got

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<v Speaker 3>the gecko, and you know it's got this little quair ramage.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, it's you know whatever, you know, two feet

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<v Speaker 3>by three foot, you know, nice little size thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought you were saying the gecko, that's a

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<v Speaker 4>large dragon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it got this acquirer and the gecko's act

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<v Speaker 3>is actually really cool, you know, and and it just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, you put it on your hand

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<v Speaker 3>and it around your arm and just kind of stayed.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it would have been all and skittish and

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<v Speaker 3>jumping around stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it gecko a salamander I mean? Or or

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<v Speaker 2>is it from the gender?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kidding, it's I think so right, it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>salamander ish. So we got this, like, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>five six months ago, and my wife, as far as

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<v Speaker 3>one it takes care of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, now let's go about three weeks ago. There was

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<v Speaker 3>another addition into the Boyman family, and that is a

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<v Speaker 3>kitten whose legal name is Coco, but we call her

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<v Speaker 3>Miss Kitty.

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<v Speaker 4>That was named by me.

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<v Speaker 3>So Miss Kitty is a great cat. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a cat guy, but this is a great little cat.

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<v Speaker 10>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, so, I you know, get I'm always usually

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<v Speaker 3>the first one to get up, and I walk in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the living room there and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of looking around for the cat and stuff. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I look over at the uh the aquarium where Chase

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<v Speaker 3>is kept, and the door is open.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh oh, And I say, oh no, So I, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Take the light and I look in there, looking there

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<v Speaker 3>on the little plastic trees and the little you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the little water dishes and stuff. There is no Chase

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<v Speaker 3>gecko gone. So you know, Kelly gets up and you

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<v Speaker 3>know then you know she's looking around for it. The

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<v Speaker 3>kids are freaking out if we can't find Chase the gecko.

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<v Speaker 4>But we think we know what happened. That is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>something opened that door and it was miss Kitty, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked around for it. We're looking in crevices of chairs.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, this is like a This is no

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<v Speaker 3>longer like a search and rescue.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a like a.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying for a recovery situation. We're trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>the body of the gecko. Didn't find it, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>find it anything. So looked for a couple of days

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like, okay, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's very sad. Well, I come home two days ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And my wife's like, you're not gonna believe this. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like what, and she shows me the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a picture of the gecko on the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 4>Floor, like eleven days had gone by, eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Days surviving, surviving.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't leave crickets out for it or nothing like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it just somehow lived outside its freezing. It

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<v Speaker 3>found water, it found food, and he's back.

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<v Speaker 13>Is back.

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<v Speaker 2>Unreal. That is a story that is I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>see like a mini go pro audience.

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<v Speaker 4>It just tried to just.

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<v Speaker 3>Watched and I told this story on on the Eddy

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<v Speaker 3>and Rocky Show, and somebody said that he probably stayed

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<v Speaker 3>around the refrigerator because there's a warm under the oil,

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<v Speaker 3>little water and a little bit kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>down some scraps right and found you know, probably maybe

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<v Speaker 3>found a little spare scrap of dog food or something,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe the random dead spider in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>He lives, He lives, the lives. That is a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>way to end this show tonight. Also, before I forget

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<v Speaker 2>that this is our sadly, this is our last gathering

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a tandem because you're on assignment for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks. So this officially concludes our run

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<v Speaker 2>and I say this every year. This is the highlight

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<v Speaker 2>of the football season for me. I wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it with anybody else. I have great appreciation, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you understand the appreciation I have for the

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<v Speaker 2>hoops that you go through, the travels you you travel,

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<v Speaker 2>and the gymnastics of your afternoon show that you go

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<v Speaker 2>through to do this show.

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<v Speaker 3>It means the world to me. And thank you, well,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. You always warm my heart when you say that.

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<v Speaker 3>But a pleasure is mine and I wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>work with anybody else doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>I truly enjoy. Yeah, it's not easy getting here and

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<v Speaker 4>doing all that, but I look forward to it. I really,

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly do because I get a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Sending you emails and bugging you with this and that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. Now. Always a blast, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great Bowl season, and I will be uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be watching sounds right, He's rocky. I'm Lance

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