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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it go on six eight. If
Speaker 2: it's Thursday night, it must be the Roundtable Show. And
Speaker 2: that means we're hanging out at Longnecks in Wilder Lance.
Speaker 2: McAllister Boyman. Two hours do unfold tonight. We've got Bengals,
Speaker 2: We've got bear Cats. We've got some college football to
Speaker 2: talk about as well. Rocky has navigated the highways and
Speaker 2: byways through the rain and the wind and eventually there
Speaker 2: will be sleep and there will be dropping temperatures.
Speaker 3: Christmas shoppers everywhere, total chaos, chaos.
Speaker 2: This show sets up for a little bit of chaos tonight.
Speaker 2: I get this almost feels like on the verge of
Speaker 2: like Christmas break and let's just cut it loose and
Speaker 2: fire away and do that for two hours tonight, so
Speaker 2: we have some ground to navigate. We are looking forward
Speaker 2: to conversation with Trags at six twenty tonight. Boy, he
Speaker 2: had an eventful day yesterday at the Bengals press conference
Speaker 2: with Zach Taylor. We'll talk with Chad Brendle the Bearcat Journal.
Speaker 2: You see football coming up in the seven o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hear some of what Zach has said this week.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. We'll hear some of what Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow has said this week, talk about that as well.
Speaker 2: And Rocky. I'll say this just as the tea. I mean,
Speaker 2: the cool thing is we've experienced losing. Certainly we've experienced
Speaker 2: losing Bengals seasons, but they've been losing and they've been boring,
Speaker 2: and we've reached this point of the year and we
Speaker 2: were I was probably printing out like mel kiper mock drafts.
Speaker 2: We've reached a point in this season where it's a
Speaker 2: terrible season. But holy Cali, they've given us storylines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there is action and there are storylines that talk about
Speaker 2: and we will talk about them tonight. Does that sound
Speaker 2: like a plan?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, All right, let's.
Speaker 2: Get to some headlines and then we will go. We
Speaker 2: start with the Bengals. They continue to work on the
Speaker 2: Dolphins today for Sunday's matchup in Miami. T Higgins still
Speaker 2: in concussion protocol, was limited. Does not look like he's
Speaker 2: going to play. Shamar Stewart was a full go. It
Speaker 2: does look like he will play. Among those not practicing,
Speaker 2: BJ Hill, Chris Jenkins, Charlie Jones, and Joseph o'saidh Thursday
Speaker 2: Night Football rams at the Seahawks eight to fifteen on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports thirteen sixty. College Football. Bearcats continue work on
Speaker 2: Navy and the Liberty Bowl January. The second offensive lineman
Speaker 2: tarn TiO, Evan Tengisdahl, and Joe Cotton all announcing today
Speaker 2: on Instagram they are returning next season to be a
Speaker 2: part of the Bearcat offensive line. Who their quarterback will
Speaker 2: be next year? To be determined. We'll ask Chad Brendle
Speaker 2: about that and more as he checks in at seven
Speaker 2: o six. Congrats the former Bengals quarterback AJ mccerrn. He's
Speaker 2: been named head coach of the Birmingham Stallions of the
Speaker 2: United Football League the UFL. He replaces Skip Polks, who
Speaker 2: stepped down earlier this week. Until this week, McCarran had
Speaker 2: been a candidate for Lieutenant governor of Alabama. On Wednesday,
Speaker 2: McCarran ended his campaign for state office. Holds the son
Speaker 2: of Blue Guy to the club three consecutive championships, was
Speaker 2: USFL Coach of the Year in twenty twenty three and
Speaker 2: posted a thirty three and seven record with the Stallions.
Speaker 2: I have a Can I tell you a quick Skipholtz story? Yes,
Speaker 2: When I was in South Bend working in TV nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety one, Skip was the wide receivers co and the
Speaker 2: night before a week before the opener against Indiana, Rick
Speaker 2: Meyer and Demetrius de Bos remember those names. We're part
Speaker 2: of a group arrested at a campus party for underage drinking.
Speaker 2: And of course, anything that happens in South Bend related
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame is major news and the thought was
Speaker 2: they would receive a suspension and not playing the opener
Speaker 2: against Indiana. So I'm the weekend sports guy at that
Speaker 2: point and we needed reaction from Notre Dame and they
Speaker 2: weren't talking. Imagine that, John Balisari and they closed ranks.
Speaker 4: We're not going to talk.
Speaker 2: So I went with my photographer to lose house, really fault,
Speaker 2: and I knocked on the door and Skip answered and
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I was hoping to get a comment.
Speaker 4: From your dad.
Speaker 2: And he said he's not talking and he closed the
Speaker 2: door off. That is my skiphole, you tried. I was
Speaker 2: the very aggressive and h fact seeking young reporter at
Speaker 2: that point, and Skip Poltz just said he's not talking
Speaker 2: and he closed the door. But you know, to meet
Speaker 2: Rick Meyer from Goshen, he was good. Not as much
Speaker 2: in the NFL, but at Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: I feel like the biggest thing people remember about Rick
Speaker 3: Meyer is Beino Cook guaranteed and he's gonna win two heismans.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, how do you? How do you?
Speaker 2: Was it Rick Meyer? Ron Poullos, No, it was Meyer
Speaker 2: or was it Paulas Maybe it was Paula. I think
Speaker 2: it was Paula. Paulis Yeah, sorry, Yeah, I watched Rick
Speaker 2: Meyer win a I'm pretty sure if I remember this correctly,
Speaker 2: win a state championship quarterbacking the Goshen. Think that the
Speaker 2: Goshen Redskins and Goshen, Indiana just outside of South Bend.
Speaker 2: He's a hell of a high school quarterback. I'm flashing
Speaker 2: back all right back to the headlines. Uh. I like
Speaker 2: when we just kind of debate into our own topics
Speaker 2: within the headlines. Red's announced the signing a free agent
Speaker 2: left tended pitcher Caleb Ferguson to a one year contract today.
Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith reports it's for four point five million dollars
Speaker 2: to twenty nine year old. Split last season between the
Speaker 2: Pirates and Mariners, he pitched in a career high seventy
Speaker 2: games and at a three point fifty eight earned run average.
Speaker 2: Hockey Blue Jackets skate on home ice versus the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Wild tonight seven o'clock. Blue Jackets, coming off a four
Speaker 2: to three win in overtime on Tuesdayay the sad in
Speaker 2: tragic news today, seven people, including NASCAR driver Greg Biffle,
Speaker 2: along with his wife and two children, died today after
Speaker 2: a private jet he owned crashed at a Statesville North
Speaker 2: Carolina Airport, there was fog, there were issues, tried to
Speaker 2: turn the plane around. The fifty five year old was
Speaker 2: a two thousand to two NASCAR Bush Series champion, two
Speaker 2: thousand Craftsman Truck Series champion, and well respected and left
Speaker 2: around the circuit and dies tragically today along with wife,
Speaker 2: two children, and according to reports, three others. Those are
Speaker 2: your headlines. We've got trags around the corner and Rock.
Speaker 2: We started to talk about this off air, and we'll
Speaker 2: get into what Zach has said this week and the
Speaker 2: contract extension that the club doesn't want to talk about
Speaker 2: and he didn't want to talk about, and what Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow has said this week. But I think it's almost
Speaker 2: moved us too quickly past an evaluation of exactly what
Speaker 2: happened on Sunday.
Speaker 4: This team at home.
Speaker 2: Playing for its collective playoff lives, no showed.
Speaker 4: They got to be twenty four to nothing.
Speaker 2: They had the ball for thirty nine minutes, they ran
Speaker 2: thirty one more plays than the Ravens, and they were
Speaker 2: out gained by nighteen yards. And Zach Taylor, boy wonder
Speaker 2: of the offense, engineered a offense that didn't score a
Speaker 2: single point and it looked like a team that really
Speaker 2: had zero interest in playing a football game. And I
Speaker 2: don't know why that isn't more talked about in terms
Speaker 2: of exactly what Zach is doing and exactly how the
Speaker 2: players are responding to him right now.
Speaker 4: They look cold, Yeah, they look cold.
Speaker 3: The car and to your point, I mean they had
Speaker 3: three drives early on in the game inside the Rams
Speaker 3: or Rams ravens like thirty three yard line yep, zero points.
Speaker 4: That's hard to do, right.
Speaker 2: We'll ask Trags a little bit about that, but a
Speaker 2: lot about his exchange with Zach yesterday and more as
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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into it with our first guest, our regular.
Speaker 2: He covers the Bengals for c LNS Sincy with thewy
Speaker 2: dot com host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube,
Speaker 2: the man they referred to as Trags and Mike Petrellia.
Speaker 2: Imagine how easy it would have been and what it
Speaker 2: would have been like yesterday had Duke Tobin just walked
Speaker 2: into the room before Zach and said, guys, I know
Speaker 2: you're aware of the report. What questions can I answer
Speaker 2: about my coach, my quarterback and my team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know that's not the standard operating procedure
Speaker 5: down at pay Course Stadium and it never will be.
Speaker 5: It's just I mean, that's why you have to understand
Speaker 5: that part of Zach Taylor's job description is to answer
Speaker 5: questions to the media for the entire organization, be the
Speaker 5: face of the organization, if you will, And that's why
Speaker 5: he gets paid what he does by the Browns and
Speaker 5: Blackburns to handle, you know, the stuff when it hits
Speaker 5: the fan. And I will say, and I wrote this
Speaker 5: on colnssinc dot com, he handles it with great grace.
Speaker 6: He handles it with a smile.
Speaker 5: He doesn't get short with us for the most part,
Speaker 5: and when he does, he still is pretty polite about it.
Speaker 6: But that still.
Speaker 5: Doesn't answer why he was given a two year or
Speaker 5: a five year extension again after the twenty twenty two season.
Speaker 5: Somebody would you would think, step forward from the organization
Speaker 5: and say, well, this is why we extended him twice
Speaker 5: in the period of two years. That answer is not
Speaker 5: going to be forthcoming, obviously. I asked that question yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 5: Zach was not going to illuminate us as who came
Speaker 5: about And you know, it's just part of the reality
Speaker 5: of covering that beat and part of the reality of
Speaker 5: the way the Bengals do business.
Speaker 6: You accept it and move on.
Speaker 3: So not disclosing the contract would is still ridiculous, but okay, fine,
Speaker 3: but now it's there.
Speaker 4: It exists.
Speaker 3: The contract extension happened. You asked Zach Taylor about it,
Speaker 3: and he's not He can't comment on it like it's factual.
Speaker 3: It exists, Like like, what was the in your opinion?
Speaker 3: Why was he reluctant to even answer.
Speaker 6: That, because I don't.
Speaker 5: I think he feels like he was would be betraying
Speaker 5: the trust of this family that did you know that
Speaker 5: gave him the extension?
Speaker 6: Uh. And furthermore, I.
Speaker 5: Think he doesn't want to take the chance of speaking
Speaker 5: out of line, which he kind of alluded to. I
Speaker 5: don't want to speak for other people in the organization. Well,
Speaker 5: we don't get a chance to speak to other people
Speaker 5: in the organization. But the reason he doesn't want to
Speaker 5: detail the contract that he signed is.
Speaker 6: Because he feels there was.
Speaker 5: An agreement between himself, the Blackburns, and Duke Tobin. And
Speaker 5: the same can be said for Joe Burrow when he
Speaker 5: negotiated his mass of two hundred and seventy five million
Speaker 5: dollar contract extension. They managed to keep that pretty quiet.
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase and t Higgins. When Rocky Arsenal was negotiating
Speaker 5: that deal for his two clients with the team, again,
Speaker 5: the details were very very quiet, and the Bengals successfully
Speaker 5: over the years have kept things very close to the
Speaker 5: best and that's just the way they like to do business.
Speaker 5: So Zach Taylor wasn't going.
Speaker 2: To step out of line with that modus opper end
Speaker 2: trags of everything interesting that Joe said yesterday, Was there
Speaker 2: one thing in particular that caught your ear more than
Speaker 2: others yesterday?
Speaker 5: Well, I think the obvious is that I think about
Speaker 5: a lot, or you think about a lot of things.
Speaker 5: He was speaking in third person when he said it,
Speaker 5: But Paul Danner Junior did a fabulous job of asking
Speaker 5: him if he sees a world where he's not playing
Speaker 5: with the Bengals.
Speaker 6: Next year, and he said, no, I don't.
Speaker 5: But going forward after that and saying, do you see
Speaker 5: a world where you could play for another team down
Speaker 5: the road, He's like, you think about a lot of things.
Speaker 5: And then Paul brought up the fact that, you know,
Speaker 5: there's always seems to be blockbuster moves every once in
Speaker 5: a while in the NFL, even with the star quarterbacks
Speaker 5: Dayton Manning with the Colts going to the Broncos, Tom
Speaker 5: Brady going from the Patriots to the Buccaneers. And then
Speaker 5: you know, Joe Burrow brought up even this year with
Speaker 5: Micah Parsons being traded right before the season from Dallas
Speaker 5: to Green Bay.
Speaker 6: Stuff like that happens.
Speaker 5: As Joe Burrow said, crazy things happen. Well read between
Speaker 5: the lines. You don't have to be, you know, that
Speaker 5: much of a sleuth to understand that he could be
Speaker 5: referring to Joe Burrow down the road. And sure that
Speaker 5: could happen down the road if things fall apart. And
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to sit here and speculate that, oh,
Speaker 5: there's a could be a trade next.
Speaker 6: Year or a year after that. I'm not going to
Speaker 6: do that.
Speaker 5: And it'd be pretty naive and ridiculous to throw that
Speaker 5: out there. But if the Bengals don't take care of business,
Speaker 5: if they don't do what they need to this offseason
Speaker 5: to address the defense like they did after twenty twenty
Speaker 5: and twenty twenty one, sure if anything's on the tabletrack.
Speaker 3: I know Jamar Chase spoke on Joe Burrow's behalf about
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, and you know, maybe some of the answers
Speaker 3: he gave it to questions, what is the general feeling
Speaker 3: of other members on the team about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 4: Has that changed at all?
Speaker 3: Do they have any other insights that they've shared recently,
Speaker 3: you know, the struggles of the team and whatnot.
Speaker 5: Aside from what Jamar Chase said after the game about
Speaker 5: you know, maybe he'd like to see changes going forward,
Speaker 5: maybe that would could happen next year.
Speaker 6: He kind of walked that back a.
Speaker 5: Little bit today saying that, you know, he loves the administration,
Speaker 5: loves the ownership. And I asked him, well, why do
Speaker 5: so many players stand up for this ownership and the
Speaker 5: front office? And he said because probably the way the
Speaker 5: young players are treated Shamar Stewart aside treated when they
Speaker 5: get to the organization, They're treated very well.
Speaker 6: They're treated with a lot.
Speaker 5: Of loyalty and care, and I guess that means a
Speaker 5: lot to the players. So Jamar Chase kind of walked
Speaker 5: that back. I thought a little bit today there was
Speaker 5: clearly a tone of I'm not going to go after anybody.
Speaker 5: That's not why I'm going to sit up here and take,
Speaker 5: you know, take questions.
Speaker 6: He also said something interesting.
Speaker 5: Today about you know, when you have a bad season
Speaker 5: like this year, it's all part of the journey.
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow said the same thing yesterday.
Speaker 5: A lot of players are repeating that, Look, you have
Speaker 5: a terrible season. You don't want to go through a
Speaker 5: terrible season, but it's part of your journey in the NFL.
Speaker 5: And not every player gets to play on the twenty
Speaker 5: ten New England Patriots and have ten years of unprecedented success.
Speaker 6: The NFL is not built that way.
Speaker 5: Not every player gets to play on the pat Mahons
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs of the last ten seasons.
Speaker 6: It's not realistic.
Speaker 5: And some of the Bengals are, I think, coming to
Speaker 5: a reality.
Speaker 2: Check in that regard drags lessen a minute. Are we
Speaker 2: going to see Shamar Stewart on Sunday? And if so,
Speaker 2: how important are these final three games? For him and
Speaker 2: what the coaches see from him.
Speaker 5: So I was in the group in the scrum around
Speaker 5: Tamar Stuart and he said, Yep, I'm tracking to play
Speaker 5: on Sunday. I expect to play and I'm looking forward
Speaker 5: to get back on the field because I've been through
Speaker 5: a lot this year.
Speaker 6: He's missed a lot of time.
Speaker 5: He wants to get that first career NFL sack, and
Speaker 5: he said.
Speaker 6: I was asked, does he have.
Speaker 5: A celebration in mind if indeed he gets that first sack?
Speaker 5: And he said, yeah, I think I'm thinking of something.
Speaker 5: But you can tell that Chamar Stewart has worked hard
Speaker 5: to get back to this point. Doc Taylor mentioned it
Speaker 5: yesterday in his press conference that he's been very diligent.
Speaker 5: And you know, give Chamar Stewart a lot of credit.
Speaker 5: He's been through a lot, from the contract negotiations before
Speaker 5: training camp began to the injuries to this point. I'd
Speaker 5: like to see him get on the field for the
Speaker 5: final three games and kind of get some momentum going
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6: And I'm sure he would too.
Speaker 2: Traig's Your Price of Staying the Course is a must
Speaker 2: read for those who want to read watch and follow
Speaker 2: tell him how they can do that.
Speaker 5: The LNS Sincy with a y dot com. You'll be
Speaker 5: getting a feature in terms of looking ahead to what's
Speaker 5: at stake also this weekend in Miami. I'll have that
Speaker 5: up sometime tomorrow. Also, you can follow my Jungle War
Speaker 5: podcast that's up on my YouTube page YouTube dot com
Speaker 5: slash Jungle War Pod and has always got those highlights
Speaker 5: and some of those clips from the locker room.
Speaker 6: That's up on the X app. Trags tr Ags.
Speaker 2: Excellent stuff as always, Thank you sir.
Speaker 6: All Right, gentlemen, have a good one.
Speaker 2: He is Trags on the Bengals beat. We'll take a
Speaker 2: time out, get to check on news and get back
Speaker 2: into Zach Taylor conversation. If we continue from LONGEX and
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Speaker 2: this week's hot topic around the NFL. We'll make it
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Speaker 2: champions on and off the field. It's a combination of things,
Speaker 2: but we'll start with Zach Taylor, who Paul Dayer Junior,
Speaker 2: broke the news earlier in the week. He quietly top secret,
Speaker 2: got a contract extension after the twenty twenty two AFC
Speaker 2: Championship game they lost to the Chiefs. So where everybody
Speaker 2: thought he had one more year left on his contract
Speaker 2: being next season, he now had as two more years
Speaker 2: after this year left on his contract that was not
Speaker 2: divulged by the team or by Zach. It's led to
Speaker 2: questions about and you'll hear Kelsey Conway asked the question
Speaker 2: looking for simply confirmation of that. Yesterday was the first
Speaker 2: time Zach had met with the media since that report
Speaker 2: from Paul Dayer Junior. Listen to the line of questioning
Speaker 2: from first Kelsey Conway to Zach Taylor.
Speaker 7: Yesterday there was a report that your contract with the
Speaker 7: Bengals goes through twenty twenty seven. Can you came firm
Speaker 7: if that's true? And if so, the organization decided not
Speaker 7: to announce it. Do you know why the team decided.
Speaker 8: Not to announce it a year after they announced.
Speaker 9: I don't think it won't matters. I coach every day,
Speaker 9: I guess my last and I've been through years in
Speaker 9: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty that were literally you coach every
Speaker 9: game thinking it could be your last game. And I've
Speaker 9: seen how we responded after that.
Speaker 8: Twenty one twenty two.
Speaker 9: Compete for division titles and championships, and so this year
Speaker 9: is no different from me. It's going through adversity coaching
Speaker 9: every game in this profession like it could be your
Speaker 9: last one. I have a lot of confidence in our
Speaker 9: staff that we're going to get this turned around and
Speaker 9: we're going to finish the season really strong and put
Speaker 9: together a great plan to get back to those championships
Speaker 9: I mentioned.
Speaker 10: So I'm very confident we can.
Speaker 4: Do all that.
Speaker 8: Though it is through twenty seven.
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna respond to that.
Speaker 10: I just told you.
Speaker 9: I coach every day like it's my last one.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor yesterday, see this file is under the category
Speaker 2: of they have to make everything difficult. This shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been that big a deal by not doing by not
Speaker 2: announcing it, they may by now not addressing it, they
Speaker 2: make it a bigger deal. I understand Zach not wanting
Speaker 2: to speak for the organization. The fact is the organization
Speaker 2: should have released that information, and since they didn't once
Speaker 2: to become became public, then Duke Tobin should have publicly
Speaker 2: made a statement or the team should have simply released
Speaker 2: a press release stating we gave Zach an extension, we
Speaker 2: believe him more excited about the future. But they have
Speaker 2: to make things, for whatever reason, more difficult than they
Speaker 2: ever should be.
Speaker 3: That is a great way of describing it. You're right
Speaker 3: just unnecessarily hard deal.
Speaker 2: He got an extension. I mean, what, what's the top
Speaker 2: secret information? And that is an objective piece of information.
Speaker 2: It's not like there's any opinion on it.
Speaker 4: It's just that's a great boy. The contract. We're just
Speaker 4: looking is it true or not? We've learned it's true.
Speaker 4: Could you just confirm it's But.
Speaker 3: When you when you're not, when you can't comment on
Speaker 3: a piece of factual information, it makes you think there's
Speaker 3: something to hide exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly right, and it leads to this. Here is trags
Speaker 2: yesterday following up in the course of that press Cobbert's
Speaker 2: trags with Zach Taylor. Take a listen.
Speaker 5: You don't get a chance to talk to ownership or
Speaker 5: we don't get that opportunity, what kind of assurances have
Speaker 5: you given?
Speaker 10: You just talk every week?
Speaker 8: Every week talk about the contractor.
Speaker 9: Every week we talk about everything. Contract that's not really
Speaker 9: part of our conversation. Every week, we're just trying to
Speaker 9: create together a great plan to win football games and
Speaker 9: make sure our team's ready to go, make sure I'm
Speaker 9: ready to go. So I know that's of curiosity to
Speaker 9: you guys, but we're just focused on being the not.
Speaker 8: Say that's reassessed after the season every years. Ask them, Yeah,
Speaker 8: we don't get a chance.
Speaker 10: Okay, Well I'm sorry, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 8: Just being straightforward with that. We would ask them, but
Speaker 8: we don't get about okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't make it up. You just
Speaker 2: can't make up this type of comedy. I mean, what
Speaker 2: what are we doing? What are we doing? I just
Speaker 2: I feel like it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3: I guess they're saying, look, we don't want you know,
Speaker 3: do out there talking because you know, then it creates
Speaker 3: headlined No, no, this creates headlines. Can go if he
Speaker 3: goes out there and just says, hey, here's what's going on.
Speaker 3: And there's ways of answering questions without really answering them.
Speaker 3: But at least there's some you don't feel like there's
Speaker 3: a transparency that people feel and there's not that doesn't
Speaker 3: exist right now.
Speaker 2: Tom Brenham in This Morning does his has his weekly
Speaker 2: conversation with Zach, and Tom asked Zach about this very
Speaker 2: line of questioning and Zach having to speak for the
Speaker 2: organization without anybody else willing to speak. Here's what Tom
Speaker 2: asked in how Zach answered.
Speaker 11: Does it ever get tough? For you, because I got
Speaker 11: to be honest with you, I do feel for you
Speaker 11: oftentimes in having to basically be the spokesperson for the
Speaker 11: entire franchise almost on a daily basis, Does it wear
Speaker 11: on you at all?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 12: No, I embrace it. I like the approach that we have.
Speaker 12: I look around the league and there's plenty of instances
Speaker 12: where you would hope that people wouldn't talk. And because
Speaker 12: it's just it's a lot of different voices and now
Speaker 12: you get a lot of different opinions and you get
Speaker 12: to cipher through you know they have the same page
Speaker 12: or not. And so I know from working in this
Speaker 12: building and being with everybody every day, ownership personnel, that
Speaker 12: we are on the same page.
Speaker 10: We're very like minded.
Speaker 12: I don't mind during the season at all being the
Speaker 12: one that speaks. I think that's the right way to
Speaker 12: do it. And again, because I've seen around the league
Speaker 12: where you just wish people would would not talk. And
Speaker 12: so again everyone's got their opinion, everyone's got their style.
Speaker 12: This is what works for us, and I'm fully on board.
Speaker 2: Up earlier this morning, Tom Brendaman here on seven hundred
Speaker 2: WLW with Zach Taylor Rock, I will repeat what I
Speaker 2: tweeted yesterday and I've printed it out so I can
Speaker 2: read it word for word. It is patently absurd that
Speaker 2: Zach is forced by the organization to be the one
Speaker 2: that is uncomfortable and defensive in addressing questions about things
Speaker 2: done by the organization. It is the structure and the
Speaker 2: float chart of responsibility and accountability is out of whacken
Speaker 2: this franchise because Zach should not be answering when Trey
Speaker 2: is holding out.
Speaker 4: That should be Duke Tobin.
Speaker 2: Zach should not be asked to comment on Shamar Stewart's
Speaker 2: hold out. That should be Duke Tobin. When Jermaine Burton
Speaker 2: is released, that should be Duke Tobin talking about his
Speaker 2: draft pick and why I was released. When Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: says what he says, the comment should be in reaction
Speaker 2: from Duke Toobin about the organization. It's just that stuff
Speaker 2: should not be on the plate. And it's the one
Speaker 2: part of me that leads me to feel sorry. As
Speaker 2: much as you can feel sorry for an NFL head
Speaker 2: coach making a nice paycheck, but it makes me feel
Speaker 2: sorry for Zach that he is forced into being the
Speaker 2: face and representative in answering all of those questions. It
Speaker 2: is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, So is that like explicitly
Speaker 3: stated before they hire a head coach, which you.
Speaker 2: Know it is understood.
Speaker 4: Is it okay? Is it stated or is it just
Speaker 4: along the way.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. And consider this. Zach Taylor is
Speaker 2: required by the NFL to speak three times a week
Speaker 2: Sunday after the game, Monday afternoon and Wednesday afternoon required
Speaker 2: three times a week. This organization speaks three times in
Speaker 2: a calendar year. They speak with Duke at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 2: they speak at the Combine, and they speak on media
Speaker 2: Day to open up training camp.
Speaker 4: Three times.
Speaker 2: The organization speaks about what they're doing and why they're
Speaker 2: doing it, while the coach is forced to do it
Speaker 2: three times a week by the league. It's just it's
Speaker 2: not fair and it's not right.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and this is the only organization that operates
Speaker 3: this way correct.
Speaker 4: And look, I.
Speaker 2: Don't I don't want Jerry Jones would be the extreme
Speaker 2: because Jerry's out there answering every question, holds a news
Speaker 2: conference after every game. I go back to what you
Speaker 2: said a couple of weeks ago. I'd forgotten about Bill
Speaker 2: Polly and actually actually doing a weekly radio show when
Speaker 2: you were playing, where he would take calls from people
Speaker 2: and he would answer questions about why the organization does things.
Speaker 4: Just I just do.
Speaker 3: I just feel like out of care and respect for
Speaker 3: your head coach. Yes, you should not want him to
Speaker 3: have to be burned with all the other stuff that
Speaker 3: he already is burdened by.
Speaker 2: That is a fantastic point that that may be if you.
Speaker 4: It just I don't care.
Speaker 2: It just it drives me crazy, and I go back
Speaker 2: to Trags wrote this in his piece for CLNS Sincy,
Speaker 2: and Zach uses that line that really bothers me when
Speaker 2: he talks about when things are going poorly and he
Speaker 2: says we're all accountable for that, and yet they're not
Speaker 2: because is Trags wrote in the piece, there are no
Speaker 2: consequences for failure. There are none, there's no consequences for failure,
Speaker 2: and yet Zach will continually say we're all accountable to
Speaker 2: that and for that, well, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: that means, because nobody's ever held accountable for anything. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have the the those making the decision who aren't
Speaker 2: accountable because they tell the coach to go explain it
Speaker 2: to everybody. I just I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: And here we are at four and ten. Take a
Speaker 2: time out and continue. Let's get into the defensive side
Speaker 2: of things and more on what transpired on Sunday.
Speaker 4: It is six forty eight.
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Speaker 2: We're rolling tonight. Chad Brendall, the barricat journal checks in
Speaker 2: at seven. Lance McAllister rockey boyman. I assume the kids
Speaker 2: are fired up, ready for Christmas.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're fired up.
Speaker 2: Their last day of school is today. Now do you
Speaker 2: like Christmas morning? Is there a set time? This is
Speaker 2: what I ran into. This is why I'm asking because
Speaker 2: when Casey and Peyton were little, it was whenever they
Speaker 2: got up Christmas began, and that could be like six
Speaker 2: to fifteen in the morning. I will say I miss
Speaker 2: the I will always maintain I missed the pitter patter
Speaker 2: of their feet, hearing them run down the hallway Christmas
Speaker 2: morning into our bedroom. But if it was six fifteen,
Speaker 2: that's when Christmas started. As they've gotten older, we've had
Speaker 2: to negotiate with the time for Casey to actually get up,
Speaker 2: because if it were up to him, he's looks all
Speaker 2: about noon and Christmas would start around twelve thirty. So
Speaker 2: we've gone through that that change of Christmas dud. Do
Speaker 2: you have a set parameter when they are up?
Speaker 3: You go, No, with a seven and a five year old,
Speaker 3: it is whenever they wake up, which is I gotta
Speaker 3: say they've they've not gotten up at you know, five
Speaker 3: thirty six in the morning, you know, seven, seven thirty.
Speaker 2: I assume you've learned that there'll be no assembling of
Speaker 2: toys the night before. You either buy them assembled or
Speaker 2: you don't buy them. Or are you one who likes
Speaker 2: to assemble toys?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I mean I don't mind it, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: usually do it, Yeah, after the gift has opened.
Speaker 4: Unless yeah, I'd say all right, do it afterward.
Speaker 2: Let's do a couple of things before the top of
Speaker 2: the air. Let's do the injury report Postman Law. Injury
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Speaker 2: with T. Higgins, who was still in can cushion protocol
Speaker 2: and is while that listed is doubtful, I would think
Speaker 2: it would be doubtful that he would play. On Sunday,
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Speaker 4: I think it is.
Speaker 2: Safe to say the biggest progress this show has made
Speaker 2: from week one to now is my mastering of that car.
Speaker 4: It just rolls off the top. I mean, at one
Speaker 4: point Phyllis had to hold you a Q car.
Speaker 2: That's how bad it got.
Speaker 4: Yes, but here we are.
Speaker 2: Like the first four weeks, I was a mess, and
Speaker 2: then for like week five it was clearly in my head.
Speaker 2: And then by week six Phyllis just felt so sorry
Speaker 2: for me. She just stood up in the middle of
Speaker 2: the show and held up a card for me to read.
Speaker 3: You know you're getting good at this. You may have
Speaker 3: a future in this talk radio thing man.
Speaker 2: By the way, thanks to Frand and Phillis. Fran and
Speaker 2: his lovely wife Phyllis were very kind of giving us
Speaker 2: little Christmas goodie back.
Speaker 4: Wait, this was this minor ours, It says.
Speaker 2: Rocky, so I assume it's you were I put mine
Speaker 2: in my back.
Speaker 4: Chocolate.
Speaker 2: Very nice. That was very nice.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Guys, thank you, and it's good to have Mike Mills here.
Speaker 2: One of the stars in our photo that we took
Speaker 2: last week that Fran you know, was it may have
Speaker 2: been the best picture Frans taken because the flash was
Speaker 2: working and it was perfectly framed.
Speaker 4: He's gotten better as the season's gone on.
Speaker 2: Strike progress me, Frian, progress, Absolutely, I had something else. Oh,
Speaker 2: let me do what we're doing.
Speaker 4: I told you this is gonna be one of those shows.
Speaker 2: Let's review. All of this will get me going. Let's
Speaker 2: review last week's drive of the game, brought to you
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Speaker 2: Bengals are down seventeen to nothing last week, and if
Speaker 2: you were ever wondering about their desire to just go home,
Speaker 2: they were down seventeen and managed to go on a
Speaker 2: sixteen play drive covering eighty five yards that consumed eight
Speaker 2: minutes off the clock. They didn't score any points, but
Speaker 2: I'm watching and they're huddling up, and there's forty seconds
Speaker 2: ticking off the clock from one.
Speaker 4: Play to the next.
Speaker 2: They were down by three scores and they just they
Speaker 2: took eight I've never heard of a team down three
Speaker 2: scores going on a sixteen play eight minute drive just
Speaker 2: taking their time as though they just wanted to get
Speaker 2: things over with and go home.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing is, you know, it takes as
Speaker 3: a longer amount of plays, but there wasn't the urgency
Speaker 3: in between play.
Speaker 4: Hey, let's get up on the line.
Speaker 3: I know they have a no huddle offense where they
Speaker 3: communicate the enhand signal.
Speaker 4: And all that, but let's huddle walk to the line.
Speaker 4: What do you think? I agree.
Speaker 3: I think they were like, you know what, this just
Speaker 3: flat ain't happening today. Let's get out. I mean, the
Speaker 3: last half a quarter of the game was you know,
Speaker 3: just and see.
Speaker 4: That's why, really, I.
Speaker 2: Go back to what I said earlier, of all the
Speaker 2: things that happened. And you can debate Zach, you can
Speaker 2: debate Joe. I don't think there's been nearly enough like
Speaker 2: spotlight shining white hot light on. Would somebody like to
Speaker 2: explain how, with the season on the line, playing at home,
Speaker 2: that team turned in that performance, Because I guarantee you
Speaker 2: that performance, especially driven by an offensive minded coach whose
Speaker 2: team scored collectively zero points, that performance would have gotten
Speaker 2: somebody fired in thirty one other NFL cities.
Speaker 4: I have no doubt in my.
Speaker 3: Mind, especially considering there's been other multiple examples of where
Speaker 3: the team has not looked good or not played well.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like this was just some fluke right out
Speaker 3: of the blue sort of situation.
Speaker 4: No, that we've seen this kind of before. This was
Speaker 4: just the culmination.
Speaker 2: Fourth time losing by at least twenty two points in
Speaker 2: a game this year, and we certainly remember the stretch
Speaker 2: that's hard in the NFL. It absolutely the NFL is
Speaker 2: is competitive that these days right now in terms of
Speaker 2: merging of victory as it's been maybe ever in The
Speaker 2: Bengals have lost four times by twenty two points and
Speaker 2: went through a three week stretch with Jake Browning where
Speaker 2: they simply weren't competitive. They didn't even look like an
Speaker 2: NFL team. And yet not only does nothing happen now,
Speaker 2: nothing's gonna happen going into the offseason. That's the thing
Speaker 2: that leaves fans just and friend just wanting to.
Speaker 4: Pull their hair out.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, fans are feeling the same thing Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow did. I think last week.
Speaker 2: That's a great way put it's, you.
Speaker 3: Know, is the realization that this isn't just all of
Speaker 3: a sudden gonna change and be different next year. It's
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the same thing, same characters, same cast,
Speaker 3: same people leading it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention I read the card. For the
Speaker 2: defensive play of the game, I'll go with Jordan Battle,
Speaker 2: who came up with the interception, his fourth of the season.
Speaker 2: Quick thought on the defense Dan the hour, I ask
Speaker 2: Trags about Shamar Stewart. I think it's rather important is
Speaker 2: gonna play. I think these next three games, in terms
Speaker 2: of anybody on this roster, they may be no more
Speaker 2: important than it for anybody but him in terms of
Speaker 2: needing to do something for him to feel good, needing
Speaker 2: to do something for the coaches to feel good going
Speaker 2: into the off season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or else.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is in a bunch of drafts of
Speaker 3: of you know where they haven't turned out.
Speaker 4: Well, this would be the bust of all busts, and
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: I think it is just patently incomprehensible how a guy
Speaker 3: that big and that fast, with that kind of skill
Speaker 3: set can't get at least even more tackles. There's got
Speaker 3: to be some something he has to show here in
Speaker 3: these last three games.
Speaker 2: All right, that's one hour in the books. That was fun,
Speaker 2: that was spirited. Let's go into the seven o'clock hour
Speaker 2: with Chad Brendle of Bearcat Journal. We've got a story
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Speaker 2: The West Miller Show will follow. At that point, let's
Speaker 2: talk some uce football, squeeze in some basketball as well.
Speaker 2: Next up the Liberty Bowl versus Navy in Memphis on Friday,
Speaker 2: January second. For more on that and all things UCE athletics,
Speaker 2: is welcome in from Bearcat Journal dot com. Chad Barndel.
Speaker 4: How are you.
Speaker 13: Well. I missed the mark. I'm letting my dogs out
Speaker 13: by I think thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, mess out.
Speaker 13: It was not raining when I walked in, because I
Speaker 13: was coming home from filling in from O and I
Speaker 13: waited thirty seconds and I went to let them out,
Speaker 13: and it's now pouring down rain here in Independence, Kentucky.
Speaker 13: So the dogs took one step outside, turned around, looked
Speaker 13: at me and said, no, thank you sir.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's start with as much as we've talked about
Speaker 2: departures in the portal, let's talk about the news of
Speaker 2: significance today, the retention of three offensive linemen who are
Speaker 2: gonna run it back, and good news for the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: Detail who's returning and how significant that is.
Speaker 13: Well, it's probably gonna be the entire left side of
Speaker 13: your line. You're gonna have Jokob, who was one of
Speaker 13: the highest ranked transfers in the portal, had a very
Speaker 13: good first year at Cincinnati. He's coming back. Evan Tengestahl,
Speaker 13: who has in many regards, been named an All American
Speaker 13: second third team All American for his first season as
Speaker 13: a starter at left guard, and then Taran TiO, who
Speaker 13: played right guard this year. My anticipation is that Tyo
Speaker 13: will move to center next year. So left guard, left
Speaker 13: tackle and center coming back for next year. That certainly
Speaker 13: raises your floor. If you're looking at you know, what
Speaker 13: is this team? What is the next iteration of Scott
Speaker 13: Saderfield football look like? At Cincinnati? Having those three guys back, Boy,
Speaker 13: you can sell a portal quarterback on that big time. Hey,
Speaker 13: you're going to be protected. You can sell running backs
Speaker 13: in the portal on it. You can sell running back
Speaker 13: that you have on your robster that you'd like to keep. Hey,
Speaker 13: you know, we've got the line coming back. So it's
Speaker 13: a big first step in stabilizing the roster for twenty
Speaker 13: twenty six.
Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterback, the Bearcats couldn't find him easily four
Speaker 3: million dollars apparently to keep Brandon swersby. So that means
Speaker 3: I guess Lichtenberg and more are the options. Who do
Speaker 3: you think starts this bowl game? And then what do
Speaker 3: you think happens? Are either of those two guys or
Speaker 3: more in the mix for next season?
Speaker 13: Well, Brady Lichtenberg actually his freshman year at UC was
Speaker 13: nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4: He's been there a little while.
Speaker 13: Yes, so this is this is it for Lickti his
Speaker 13: last who Rah? I do anticipate that he will start
Speaker 13: in the bowl game. Samas Jones is a red shirt freshman.
Speaker 13: He will play at some point in time. I'm in
Speaker 13: Memphis on the third or on the second, excuse me,
Speaker 13: and then I think he will. He'll be around to
Speaker 13: compete for the job. They're gonna They've got Brooks Goodman
Speaker 13: coming in as a freshman who they really like a lot,
Speaker 13: but true freshman, you're gonna have to hit the portal
Speaker 13: for one starting level quarterback, and you might have to
Speaker 13: hit the portal for potentially a backup guy just to
Speaker 13: get that room back up to size because that's you know,
Speaker 13: you need four five quarterbacks in that room, and right
Speaker 13: now it's gonna be sam Os Jones and a freshman,
Speaker 13: so gonna have to bulk up that room in the
Speaker 13: portal for sure. And by the way, Rock four million
Speaker 13: is a very low ball number on what Brandon Stores
Speaker 13: is going to get. I've I've heard five north of
Speaker 13: five at times.
Speaker 4: Wow, oh pays to be a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I realize Navy doesn't exactly sling it around the field.
Speaker 2: I think they average fourteen passes a game, but that
Speaker 2: the current status of the UC secondary appears rather sparse,
Speaker 2: does it not.
Speaker 13: I think Heagan is suiting up tomorrow.
Speaker 6: It's safety.
Speaker 13: It's gonna be ugly, but I'm gonna be there, you know,
Speaker 13: at eleven o'clock to watch. Yeah, they're they're gonna be relying,
Speaker 13: and honestly, I don't hate it because you're gonna need
Speaker 13: a lot of these freshmen and red shirt freshmen to
Speaker 13: show growth and you're gonna at least through these Bowl practices.
Speaker 13: And even though Navy doesn't throw the ball a ton,
Speaker 13: they throw it more than a standard triple option team
Speaker 13: this year. Usually triple option teams will throw four times, yeah,
Speaker 13: in a game, and they throw fourteen, So I mean
Speaker 13: break out the air raid. But you're gonna need to
Speaker 13: see what you've got in some of these guys and
Speaker 13: to see if you can throw them in there, put
Speaker 13: their feet to the fire and see if they can
Speaker 13: hold their own. Because you know, if we're at that
Speaker 13: point right, a lot of people are worried. We haven't
Speaker 13: seen anything from the high school guys. It's a developmental program.
Speaker 13: You don't see a lot of freshmen and red shirt
Speaker 13: freshmen on the field. But now these guys are getting
Speaker 13: into the second third year in the program. You're gonna
Speaker 13: need to find out what you got. If the guys
Speaker 13: that you know really the only one I think they
Speaker 13: really would have liked to keep with Christian Harrison. I'm
Speaker 13: sure they would have been okay if Takuan Sanks would
Speaker 13: have stayed around, But I don't think they were going
Speaker 13: to overpay at that spot because you already have Antoine
Speaker 13: Pete there. So let's find out what we got. Let's
Speaker 13: see throw these guys' feet to the fire and see
Speaker 13: how they hold up against you know, a Navy team
Speaker 13: that's gonna be physical, get down in the box, make
Speaker 13: some tackles. Boys.
Speaker 2: Gotta ask you a basketball question. James has clearly been
Speaker 2: through a lot. He had a nice moment last night.
Speaker 2: I was happy for him last night. He was smiling
Speaker 2: last night. Give me a big picture observation of this situation,
Speaker 2: and what do you make of it?
Speaker 13: Is it what I would have done bringing him back
Speaker 13: this early from the situation he went through?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 13: Probably not. Is it what I would have done if
Speaker 13: I had a multimillion dollar a year job on the
Speaker 13: line and had my leading scorer from a year ago
Speaker 13: at practice but not on the floor for games.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Probably. And that's not to excuse Wes Miller. That's just
Speaker 13: reality of the situation. There's not a whole lot of
Speaker 13: multimillion dollars a year jobs out there. If you've got
Speaker 13: one of them, I imagine you're you're gonna do whatever
Speaker 13: you can to try to keep it. That's where kind
Speaker 13: of this falls for me. He thought Gigzle could help him,
Speaker 13: and there's other things. Obviously. You could see his teammates
Speaker 13: were really happy to have Gizzle back yesterday, laughing, smiling
Speaker 13: on the bench, having a good time, enjoying him coming
Speaker 13: back and playing well. The injuries are mounting up. Like
Speaker 13: I get some of the stuff that WEX talked about
Speaker 13: in the post game, but for me, let's be honest here.
Speaker 13: They need wins. They were six and four. Yeah, times
Speaker 13: running out and there is no next year if they
Speaker 13: don't get this thing figured out. So putting Jills James
Speaker 13: back on the floor. I get it from a coaches standpoint,
Speaker 13: just want to make sure it ends up being the
Speaker 13: right thing by the kid. Yes, and at least the
Speaker 13: early returns are good.
Speaker 6: Good.
Speaker 2: Like going on a portal the bowl game basketball, you
Speaker 2: are all over at Bearcat Journal dot com. Give listeners
Speaker 2: a taste of things they will find.
Speaker 6: Everything.
Speaker 13: A tracker of who's going in the portal, a tracker
Speaker 13: of who they're potentially looking at coming out of the portal.
Speaker 13: We're tracking coaching changes and staff changes on the football side,
Speaker 13: We're tracking who's available and who's not for each individual
Speaker 13: basketball game. At this point, there is a lot going on,
Speaker 13: and the Bearcat Journal team, as you covered for all
Speaker 13: things Bearcats and what has been as busy in November
Speaker 13: and December as I can ever remember, sands a coaching change.
Speaker 2: No better time to turn to Bearcat Journal dot com
Speaker 2: and that's why we love having you on.
Speaker 13: Thank you, sir, appreciate you guys. You all have a
Speaker 13: great Christmas. I don't know what the plan is for
Speaker 13: next week, but let me know.
Speaker 2: We will let you know. Thanks sir, Christmas. There you go,
Speaker 2: Chad Brendall, Bearcat Journal dot Com. When we continue a
Speaker 2: little bit on what Joe Burrow said yesterday, we'll react
Speaker 2: to that. Take a look at the Miami Dolphins review,
Speaker 2: the AFC North and more.
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Speaker 2: the Bengals, going to Miami where they go from ten
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrows spoke yesterday. And when Joe speaks, he's very
Speaker 2: He's very reflective, very thoughtful. Joe doesn't say things just
Speaker 2: to say things. And when Joe talks, people listen. So
Speaker 2: let's listen to a couple of things he said yesterday. First,
Speaker 2: Joe talking about with three games left, that much discussed,
Speaker 2: should Joe play. Here's what Joe said.
Speaker 14: Feels like everybody's trying to do everything in their power
Speaker 14: to make me not play football, and I feel like.
Speaker 10: I'm fighting it, like fighting everybody else. I just want
Speaker 10: to play. I just want to play ball. That's all
Speaker 10: I want to do.
Speaker 3: Speculation after last week, just in general about your comments
Speaker 3: last week, how much do you love playing a lot?
Speaker 6: Every year?
Speaker 10: Ever?
Speaker 4: Thought about?
Speaker 14: Not we think about it, but you think about a
Speaker 14: lot of different things and in your life, just like
Speaker 14: everybody does.
Speaker 10: You think about all different possibilities that could happen. I'm
Speaker 10: gonna be playing for a long time.
Speaker 14: I expect to play for a long time, and expect
Speaker 14: to play well and consistently great for a long time.
Speaker 8: Is anybody in the building trying to get you to
Speaker 8: not play?
Speaker 10: No? What's it like.
Speaker 8: Here and your fans? You'd like to phtograph we'd like at.
Speaker 2: Joe, how frustrating is it to hear that given all
Speaker 2: the work that you put in, I mean, is your
Speaker 2: reaction with people kind of say stuff like that.
Speaker 14: Obviously, fans are going to have their opinions about what
Speaker 14: their favorite teams should or shouldn't do.
Speaker 10: That's what makes the sport great.
Speaker 14: That's why revenues are so high, and that's why we
Speaker 14: get paid so much, because fans care a lot about.
Speaker 10: What we do and who we are and all things
Speaker 10: that come with that. So that's part of it.
Speaker 14: That's something that you have to number one, embrace. Number
Speaker 14: two take with a grain of salt a lot. This
Speaker 14: comes with the territory.
Speaker 2: Are we cool with Joe playing the final three games?
Speaker 3: Yes, because you know, if he's healthy, which he is,
Speaker 3: he absolutely should. I we live in the day and
Speaker 3: age of in the NBA. There's load management, right, which I.
Speaker 4: Think is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, this is
Speaker 3: a game for fans and they pay money to see
Speaker 3: star players and I can't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't watch the NBA or go to games, but
Speaker 3: I feel like I'd be upset to to holy hell
Speaker 3: if I went and they're being guys just didn't play.
Speaker 4: So I think Joe Burrow should play.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you said that because I've
Speaker 2: been looking at this is perfect on January. I think
Speaker 2: it's January the second the Pacers play the San Antonio
Speaker 2: Spurs and Victor Webbin Yamba, the big guy, the freak,
Speaker 2: and I will to see Victor Weben Yama, and Casey
Speaker 2: wants to see him. And I thought, and I've been
Speaker 2: tracking tickets at Gamebridge Fieldhouse to go to the game,
Speaker 2: but I thought it would be our luck. We'd buy
Speaker 2: tickets to this game and Victor would not play in
Speaker 2: that game. And we had an experienced a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago where we wanted to see Steph Curry play,
Speaker 2: and we bought tickets, and we drove to Indianapolis and
Speaker 2: we were standing in line to get in with our
Speaker 2: tickets about to be checked by the usher, and I
Speaker 2: looked on Twitter and I saw a note from the
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors beat writer and he said Steph Curry
Speaker 2: will not play tonight, He'll rest. And it just forever
Speaker 2: changed how I look at buying tickets in advance of
Speaker 2: anything based on variables like that, and I just I
Speaker 2: don't have a guarantee. Victor Wemben Yama is gonna play
Speaker 2: on January the second, so I'm not gonna buy tickets
Speaker 2: and drive over.
Speaker 4: And You're not the only one that looks at that way.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's killing the NBA, especially back in
Speaker 3: an era when in the NBA hey day, back when
Speaker 3: I was younger and watching it.
Speaker 4: Guy's played because that's what you do.
Speaker 3: If you're a football player and you're healthy, you should
Speaker 3: play football.
Speaker 2: Very well said. Here is Joe reacting to the thought,
Speaker 2: the sense that there will not be changes in this
Speaker 2: organization structurally this off season. Here's QB one.
Speaker 10: I think we have great coaches.
Speaker 14: I think we're consistently putting good positions to make plays
Speaker 14: and do our best. Obviously, there's good games in bad games,
Speaker 14: just like players have good games in bad games. Because
Speaker 14: I have a lot of confidence and everybody that's putting
Speaker 14: together the plans for us weekend and week out, that's
Speaker 14: time to say that changes don't need to be made.
Speaker 14: Not saying personnel or people. I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 14: what we've been doing hasn't worked the last couple of years,
Speaker 14: so you know, we have to think outside the box
Speaker 14: to creative about where we go from here.
Speaker 2: I think that's a very interesting final part of that statement.
Speaker 2: It's clear it hasn't worked and we need to be
Speaker 2: think out of the box and do things differently. Are
Speaker 2: they willing to do that as an organization? Well, Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow has always.
Speaker 3: Been pretty savvy about, you know, getting his point across
Speaker 3: to the right ears in a press conference, which is
Speaker 3: what you want out of your quarterback. You want somebody
Speaker 3: that has the savvy to be able to do that
Speaker 3: and the message has been transferred.
Speaker 4: Will anybody listen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess prior examples would tell you no.
Speaker 2: Very well said. Again, here's one more from Joe. This
Speaker 2: is Joe Burrow being asked about voicing his opinion on
Speaker 2: potential changes.
Speaker 8: Have you voiced your opinion to them? Cront office?
Speaker 10: We have constant communication, a lot of conversations. A pretty
Speaker 10: vague question.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 8: You can be a specific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know you guys, I know I can.
Speaker 14: There's always conversations being had about different perspectives about what's
Speaker 14: happening and what's going on that are being shared with
Speaker 14: the big changes.
Speaker 13: Would you expect them to them talk to.
Speaker 10: You about them?
Speaker 14: If they were having conversations about that, about big potential changes,
Speaker 14: head coach, director, play friends, stuff like that. I appreciate
Speaker 14: being informed those decisions that are being made. That's not
Speaker 14: to say that I need to be involved in the
Speaker 14: decision making processes, but I enjoy being kept up to
Speaker 14: date about thought processes and.
Speaker 10: Decision making trees.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, I very much enjoy listening to him because
Speaker 2: he's very he you can tell he's thinking as he's
Speaker 2: saying it. It's very thoughtful. It's not off the cuff,
Speaker 2: and he's trying to find the right word. And and
Speaker 2: he's somebody who does not say something just to say something.
Speaker 2: He says something message absolutely.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Here's one more. This is a line of questioning from
Speaker 2: Paul Dayer Junior to Joe Burrow yesterday. Take a listen.
Speaker 2: Is there, ever, is there any world in your mind
Speaker 2: when you're not a quarterback with the Fangals next year.
Speaker 13: I couldn't.
Speaker 10: I couldn't. I can't see that now.
Speaker 11: I didn't ever both thought about the possibility of not
Speaker 11: being the quarterback here during your career or.
Speaker 10: Do you think about a lot of things?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, you think about a lot of things. You do.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're wondering that rather annoying click,
Speaker 2: that's everybody on their laptops. There's a mic. At least
Speaker 2: they have added a mic this year. You can hear
Speaker 2: the questions. The downside to having the mic there that
Speaker 2: closes you hear everybody typing? Is the beat right?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: So under It's the give and take of all of it.
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Speaker 2: a little oh oh before college football. I have a
Speaker 2: high school state championship game moment I need to tell
Speaker 2: you about. I talked about it earlier in the week.
Speaker 2: This happened in Louisiana on Friday night, all losing a
Speaker 2: state championship game.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Team is up one, there's thirty five seconds left. They
Speaker 2: have the ball first down. They're gonna kneel it out.
Speaker 2: They're just gonna take these and end the game. On
Speaker 2: first down, they kneel it. The offensive lineman in celebration
Speaker 2: and expectation the clock is just gonna run out, takes
Speaker 2: his helmet off, throws it up in the air and celebration.
Speaker 2: Flag unsportsmanlike conduct for removal of the helmet that stops
Speaker 2: the clock. That allows the other team to not have
Speaker 2: to burn their time out. So then they take the
Speaker 2: timeout on second down to stop the clock. Take the
Speaker 2: timeout on third down, stop the clock, forcing them to punt.
Speaker 2: They punt its blocked team recovers, throws one pass down
Speaker 2: to like the twenty seven yard line, and kicks a
Speaker 2: game winning field goal.
Speaker 4: I showed my wife clip and horrifying.
Speaker 3: Oh, because one hand you're just so mad at the kid,
Speaker 3: and the other hand you're like crush for him because
Speaker 3: his whole life, he's.
Speaker 4: Gonna think about that moment.
Speaker 3: I thought in that moment, it was like, I forget
Speaker 3: if they had timeouts left or whatever, and you don't
Speaker 3: want to call a timeout. But it's almost like worth
Speaker 3: the coach saying, all right, guys, we're gonna win the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one, you know, no, panic, don't.
Speaker 3: Panic, don't mf somebody, don't take your helmet off.
Speaker 4: We're ahead. Let's just calmly go when the time.
Speaker 2: And the other the other aspect, I get kind of
Speaker 2: complicated if I explained it.
Speaker 4: But the the the.
Speaker 2: Game winning field goal was kicked by the kid who
Speaker 2: a minute earlier in the game had missed the point
Speaker 2: after that would have tied the game. That's why they
Speaker 2: were or yeah, uh no, I further confused that scratch that.
Speaker 2: It gets really complicated and I shouldn't have tried to
Speaker 2: explain it. Okay, but yeah, they they had missed it earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he had missed an earlier kick, and that was the
Speaker 2: different game at that point, and oh throws the helmet
Speaker 2: in celebration, just thinks the clock's going to take the
Speaker 2: zero and they're going to go home. And and in fact,
Speaker 2: I well you saw the same video. Some of the
Speaker 2: players were turning and celebrating with the fans in the
Speaker 2: stands in high five. But I'm thinking they'd won the
Speaker 2: game and the yellow flag comes out.
Speaker 4: Do you remember this? This is why do I remember this?
Speaker 3: But this two thousand and two Cleveland Browns first or
Speaker 3: second game of the year.
Speaker 2: Yes, Barrett, Barrett Rudd or what was his name? I
Speaker 2: know who, Yes, Derrick Rudd. I think it's Barrett. I
Speaker 2: know who you're talking Derrick Rudd.
Speaker 3: Like you know helmet, like say, the same thing, thinks
Speaker 3: to win the game, Helmet tosses right, game, can't stop
Speaker 3: on a defensive penalty, Ye, so and so gets the ball.
Speaker 4: Back, same sort of scenario.
Speaker 3: And I remember that because we played the Browns the
Speaker 3: next week and Jeff Fisher put that on the film
Speaker 3: to talk about that. He said the Browns are a
Speaker 3: helmet toss away from being three and ozer or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, Dwayne.
Speaker 4: Rudd out of Dwayne Rudder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, all right.
Speaker 4: Heisman.
Speaker 2: Heisman is official for Nando Mendoza becomes the first Indiana
Speaker 2: Hoosier to ever win the Heisman Trophy. We were again
Speaker 2: this year with a chance to vote in the process.
Speaker 2: It's an online process. You enter your first place, second place,
Speaker 2: third place submit, not allowed to talk about it till
Speaker 2: after it's done. I will give you my final ballot
Speaker 2: and then you give me yours if you're ready.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: In third place, I voted Jeremiah Love, running back Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Fantastic season carried a lot of responsibility and weight of
Speaker 2: that season with what he did as the running back.
Speaker 2: And two, I took Diego Diego Pavia, who lifted an
Speaker 2: elevated Vanderbilt to place as they'd never gone before. He
Speaker 2: was dynamic throwing the football, he was dynamic running the football,
Speaker 2: rush for over eight hundred yards total, thirty plus touchdowns
Speaker 2: on the air and on the ground. And at number one,
Speaker 2: I voted for Fernando Mendoza, Indiana Hoosiers talking about taking
Speaker 2: a team where they hadn't gone and turned in a
Speaker 2: magical season.
Speaker 4: He had moments.
Speaker 2: He had the Penn State throw with some help catch
Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone, made a couple
Speaker 2: of spectacular throws in the Big Ten championship game, I
Speaker 2: went Mendoza one, Pavia two, loved three, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: You don't vote for a fourth, But I had Julian
Speaker 2: saying fourth if I would have been asked, how did
Speaker 2: your ballot? In turn look for the Heisman?
Speaker 3: But by the way, am I not to say this.
Speaker 3: I always vote before the championship games because I.
Speaker 4: Don't want I don't want interesting.
Speaker 3: I don't want one game to sway my because I
Speaker 3: think you could make an argument, not from your case,
Speaker 3: but for Mendoza.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he did have a couple of great throws
Speaker 4: in that game.
Speaker 2: I can understand. That's part of the process. To is
Speaker 2: the recency bias of it. It's an extra game that
Speaker 2: some other guys don't get. How much do you weigh
Speaker 2: at it? Yeah, that's that's fair anyway. No, I'm very worthy.
Speaker 3: So I went number three Mendoza because I just didn't
Speaker 3: think he had I'm not a stats guy, but I
Speaker 3: think you had massive number, not massive numbers. Number two
Speaker 3: Pavia because I thought he was such a great story
Speaker 3: and unconventional, and I got to see him when.
Speaker 4: He played for New Mexico State.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget being in Jerry Kill's office is in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, week zero, and he's like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: got this quarterback. He saves Diego Poppy. He's from such
Speaker 3: and such junior college. He was a great high school wrestler.
Speaker 3: And then the kid walks in the room and he's
Speaker 3: like five foot eleven and you're like, what is this?
Speaker 4: And he was. He was awesome, right, just he just
Speaker 4: found a way to do it.
Speaker 3: And then I had a privilege of calling Vanderbilt again
Speaker 3: this year and by that time he was fantastic.
Speaker 4: So loved him.
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me at number one, Yes, you're
Speaker 2: just being a good homer.
Speaker 4: No, I thought, in a year where.
Speaker 3: There wasn't a that dominant five, you know whatever, the
Speaker 3: top top quarterback guy, I thought, Jeremiah loves performance.
Speaker 4: And you talk about being the MVP of a team.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was definitely the MVP of a really, really
Speaker 3: good Notre Dame team. That's why I and I took
Speaker 3: a lot of heat. Imagine this from Ohio State fans.
Speaker 2: And why do you have to say and fourth, Well,
Speaker 2: I could only pick three guys, and it's no disrespect
Speaker 2: to justin saying and or Julian saying, and I'm not
Speaker 2: the type who who penalizes somebody because of either system
Speaker 2: or weapons. But let's be honest. He I mean his
Speaker 2: wide receiver weapons helped elevate him as well. And I
Speaker 2: don't I mean, that's not I just I default to
Speaker 2: I had three spots, and I just thought the other
Speaker 2: three were better than Julian saying. That doesn't mean I
Speaker 2: don't like Julian saying.
Speaker 3: So there the fact that you have to justify that
Speaker 3: says something about some Ohio State fan.
Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that. There you go.
Speaker 2: By the way, there were six different regions of the
Speaker 2: country that vote, and the voting is added up by
Speaker 2: in each region, and every five of the six regions
Speaker 2: went Mendoza Pavia, Love saying five of the six had.
Speaker 3: A region went Love, Pavia.
Speaker 2: I do not see that one. I see the Southwest
Speaker 2: where saying was bumped down to fifth because Jacob Rodriguez
Speaker 2: of Texas Tech, the linebacker, moved up to fourth in
Speaker 2: that region. Rodriguez got seventeen first place votes and finished
Speaker 2: fifth overall. So there you go. It's always an honor
Speaker 2: for us, and I always I always enjoy because I
Speaker 2: don't want to It's not that I don't want to
Speaker 2: be like everyone else, but I'm always curious, like, am
Speaker 2: I gonna wind up close to what the consensus is?
Speaker 2: Or am I going to be the outlier? And then
Speaker 2: if I'm the outlier, did I screw it up? Or
Speaker 2: is it too easy to go with the flow?
Speaker 4: And you don't want to be the outlier.
Speaker 2: Just to be the outlier, you want to send people
Speaker 2: jelly bye they find out ham are you yes? The
Speaker 2: college football playoffs start this weekend. We'll make that part
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Speaker 2: Playoffs get going this weekend, you know, And this isn't
Speaker 2: really a topic other than an observation. I've always been
Speaker 2: fascinated rock just because I like numbers of Since the
Speaker 2: college football playoffs started, there have been eleven editions of
Speaker 2: this and Traditionally, the games aren't close, and it's always
Speaker 2: odd to me that the committee's job is to select
Speaker 2: the best teams and then pin them against each other,
Speaker 2: and yet the margins of victory are rarely close.
Speaker 4: In fact, I keep track of this.
Speaker 2: There have been forty one college football playoff games over
Speaker 2: eleven seasons, the twenty two semi final games. The average
Speaker 2: margin of victory in those games has been seventeen points.
Speaker 2: There have been eleven national Of the last eleven national
Speaker 2: championship games, the average margin of victory is just over
Speaker 2: nineteen points, which is odd me because you would think
Speaker 2: this process would would get us test and narrow it
Speaker 2: down to the best playing the best. And yet you
Speaker 2: know last year's title game the Hio State Dame Ohio
Speaker 2: State Notre Dame was eleven. Michigan the year before won
Speaker 2: by twenty one over Washington. Georgia BATTCU by fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Georgia beat Bamba by fifteen, Bamba beat Ohio State by
Speaker 2: twenty eight. LSU beat Clemson by seventeen. Championship game, semi finals,
Speaker 2: And of the course of these eleven years, there have
Speaker 2: been margins of victory of fifty eight thirty nine thirty eight,
Speaker 2: thirty five, thirty one, twenty eight, twenty eight. And it's
Speaker 2: just it's odd to me that it hasn't the system
Speaker 2: hasn't produced better games, and I don't I don't have
Speaker 2: an explanation for that. I just find it curious.
Speaker 4: Can I project this? Yes, maybe starting this year that
Speaker 4: that trend will die off and it'll.
Speaker 3: Be closer because because of the portal, there's less dominant
Speaker 3: team tams. Like you go about four years ago, some
Speaker 3: of those Georgia Alabama teams. Yes, they were the best
Speaker 3: because they had great depth. Well, now teams don't have
Speaker 3: depth because the fifth or the sixth offensive lineman on
Speaker 3: Georgia goes and plays somewhere else.
Speaker 4: So maybe that'll that'll die.
Speaker 2: If you're wondering the spreads for the opening round, Oregon
Speaker 2: is a twenty one point favorite over James Madison, Ole
Speaker 2: Miss seventeen and a half points over Tulane. Oklahoma is
Speaker 2: a one point favorite over Bama and Texas A and
Speaker 2: m a three point favorite over Miami. So there you go.
Speaker 2: What do you say we head down the stretch and
Speaker 2: talk about the get go? Can we do that? He's rocky,
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Speaker 2: E d U. All Right, tell me the story of
Speaker 2: the gecko.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's start from the beginning here though, So
Speaker 3: besides me and Kelly and are three boys. We also
Speaker 3: have Elvis the Golden Retriever, who just turned sixteen. We
Speaker 3: have Ryan Know the Golden Retriever, who we think is
Speaker 3: like six or seven, but we're not sure, okay. And
Speaker 3: then we recently added Chase the Gecko. His full name
Speaker 3: is Jamar Chase the Gecko. Okay, Cass what Bronson?
Speaker 4: It was his thing?
Speaker 3: Which and by the way, geckos are very expensive. Apparently
Speaker 3: you got to know a guy. Oh, my mother in
Speaker 3: law knows a guy. All right, So got the got
Speaker 3: the gecko, and you know it's got this little quair ramage.
Speaker 3: I'd say, it's you know whatever, you know, two feet
Speaker 3: by three foot, you know, nice little size thing.
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were saying the gecko, that's a
Speaker 4: large dragon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it got this acquirer and the gecko's act
Speaker 3: is actually really cool, you know, and and it just
Speaker 3: kind of you know, you put it on your hand
Speaker 3: and it around your arm and just kind of stayed.
Speaker 3: I thought it would have been all and skittish and
Speaker 3: jumping around stuff.
Speaker 2: So is it gecko a salamander I mean? Or or
Speaker 2: is it from the gender?
Speaker 3: I'm kidding, it's I think so right, it looks like
Speaker 3: salamander ish. So we got this, like, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: five six months ago, and my wife, as far as
Speaker 3: one it takes care of it.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: Anyway, now let's go about three weeks ago. There was
Speaker 3: another addition into the Boyman family, and that is a
Speaker 3: kitten whose legal name is Coco, but we call her
Speaker 3: Miss Kitty.
Speaker 4: That was named by me.
Speaker 3: So Miss Kitty is a great cat. But I'm not
Speaker 3: a cat guy, but this is a great little cat.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 3: So anyway, so, I you know, get I'm always usually
Speaker 3: the first one to get up, and I walk in
Speaker 3: the in the living room there and you know, I'm
Speaker 3: kind of looking around for the cat and stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I look over at the uh the aquarium where Chase
Speaker 3: is kept, and the door is open.
Speaker 4: Uh oh, And I say, oh no, So I, you know.
Speaker 3: Take the light and I look in there, looking there
Speaker 3: on the little plastic trees and the little you know,
Speaker 3: the little water dishes and stuff. There is no Chase
Speaker 3: gecko gone. So you know, Kelly gets up and you
Speaker 3: know then you know she's looking around for it. The
Speaker 3: kids are freaking out if we can't find Chase the gecko.
Speaker 4: But we think we know what happened. That is, you know,
Speaker 4: something opened that door and it was miss Kitty, So.
Speaker 3: Looked around for it. We're looking in crevices of chairs.
Speaker 3: At this point, this is like a This is no
Speaker 3: longer like a search and rescue.
Speaker 4: It's just a like a.
Speaker 3: We're trying for a recovery situation. We're trying to find
Speaker 3: the body of the gecko. Didn't find it, you can't
Speaker 3: find it anything. So looked for a couple of days
Speaker 3: and we're like, okay, it's gone.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: It's it's very sad. Well, I come home two days ago.
Speaker 3: And my wife's like, you're not gonna believe this. And
Speaker 3: I was like what, and she shows me the picture.
Speaker 3: It is a picture of the gecko on the kitchen.
Speaker 4: Floor, like eleven days had gone by, eleven.
Speaker 2: Days surviving, surviving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 3: We didn't leave crickets out for it or nothing like.
Speaker 3: It's just it just somehow lived outside its freezing. It
Speaker 3: found water, it found food, and he's back.
Speaker 13: Is back.
Speaker 2: Unreal. That is a story that is I'd love to
Speaker 2: see like a mini go pro audience.
Speaker 4: It just tried to just.
Speaker 3: Watched and I told this story on on the Eddy
Speaker 3: and Rocky Show, and somebody said that he probably stayed
Speaker 3: around the refrigerator because there's a warm under the oil,
Speaker 3: little water and a little bit kind of you know,
Speaker 3: down some scraps right and found you know, probably maybe
Speaker 3: found a little spare scrap of dog food or something,
Speaker 3: or maybe the random dead spider in the corner.
Speaker 2: He lives, He lives, the lives. That is a perfect
Speaker 2: way to end this show tonight. Also, before I forget
Speaker 2: that this is our sadly, this is our last gathering
Speaker 2: as a as a tandem because you're on assignment for
Speaker 2: the next two weeks. So this officially concludes our run
Speaker 2: and I say this every year. This is the highlight
Speaker 2: of the football season for me. I wouldn't want to
Speaker 2: do it with anybody else. I have great appreciation, and
Speaker 2: I hope you understand the appreciation I have for the
Speaker 2: hoops that you go through, the travels you you travel,
Speaker 2: and the gymnastics of your afternoon show that you go
Speaker 2: through to do this show.
Speaker 3: It means the world to me. And thank you, well,
Speaker 3: thank you. You always warm my heart when you say that.
Speaker 3: But a pleasure is mine and I wouldn't want to
Speaker 3: work with anybody else doing this.
Speaker 4: I truly enjoy. Yeah, it's not easy getting here and
Speaker 4: doing all that, but I look forward to it. I really,
Speaker 4: I honestly do because I get a chance.
Speaker 2: Sending you emails and bugging you with this and that.
Speaker 4: That's it. Now. Always a blast, my friend.
Speaker 2: Have a great Bowl season, and I will be uh,
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