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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it go on six eight. If

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Speaker 2: it's Thursday night, it must be the Roundtable Show. And

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Speaker 2: that means we're hanging out at Longnecks in Wilder Lance.

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Speaker 2: McAllister Boyman. Two hours do unfold tonight. We've got Bengals,

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Speaker 2: We've got bear Cats. We've got some college football to

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Speaker 2: talk about as well. Rocky has navigated the highways and

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Speaker 2: byways through the rain and the wind and eventually there

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Speaker 3: Christmas shoppers everywhere, total chaos, chaos.

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Speaker 2: This show sets up for a little bit of chaos tonight.

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Speaker 2: I get this almost feels like on the verge of

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Speaker 2: like Christmas break and let's just cut it loose and

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Speaker 2: fire away and do that for two hours tonight, so

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Speaker 2: we have some ground to navigate. We are looking forward

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Speaker 2: to conversation with Trags at six twenty tonight. Boy, he

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Speaker 2: had an eventful day yesterday at the Bengals press conference

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Speaker 2: with Zach Taylor. We'll talk with Chad Brendle the Bearcat Journal.

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Speaker 2: You see football coming up in the seven o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hear some of what Zach has said this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. We'll hear some of what Joe

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Speaker 2: And Rocky. I'll say this just as the tea. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the cool thing is we've experienced losing. Certainly we've experienced

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Speaker 2: losing Bengals seasons, but they've been losing and they've been boring,

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Speaker 2: and we've reached this point of the year and we

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Speaker 2: were I was probably printing out like mel kiper mock drafts.

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Speaker 2: We've reached a point in this season where it's a

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Speaker 2: terrible season. But holy Cali, they've given us storylines. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there is action and there are storylines that talk about

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Speaker 2: and we will talk about them tonight. Does that sound

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, All right, let's.

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Speaker 2: Get to some headlines and then we will go. We

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Speaker 2: start with the Bengals. They continue to work on the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins today for Sunday's matchup in Miami. T Higgins still

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Speaker 2: in concussion protocol, was limited. Does not look like he's

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Speaker 2: going to play. Shamar Stewart was a full go. It

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Speaker 2: does look like he will play. Among those not practicing,

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Speaker 2: BJ Hill, Chris Jenkins, Charlie Jones, and Joseph o'saidh Thursday

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Speaker 2: Night Football rams at the Seahawks eight to fifteen on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports thirteen sixty. College Football. Bearcats continue work on

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Speaker 2: Navy and the Liberty Bowl January. The second offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: on Instagram they are returning next season to be a

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Speaker 2: be next year? To be determined. We'll ask Chad Brendle

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Speaker 2: o six. Congrats the former Bengals quarterback AJ mccerrn. He's

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Speaker 2: been named head coach of the Birmingham Stallions of the

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Speaker 2: United Football League the UFL. He replaces Skip Polks, who

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Speaker 2: stepped down earlier this week. Until this week, McCarran had

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Speaker 2: McCarran ended his campaign for state office. Holds the son

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Speaker 2: of Blue Guy to the club three consecutive championships, was

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Speaker 2: I have a Can I tell you a quick Skipholtz story? Yes,

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Speaker 2: When I was in South Bend working in TV nineteen

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Speaker 2: Meyer and Demetrius de Bos remember those names. We're part

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Speaker 2: And of course, anything that happens in South Bend related

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Speaker 2: So I went with my photographer to lose house, really fault,

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Speaker 2: And he said he's not talking and he closed the

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Speaker 3: I feel like the biggest thing people remember about Rick

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Speaker 3: Meyer is Beino Cook guaranteed and he's gonna win two heismans.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, how do you? How do you?

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Speaker 2: Was it Rick Meyer? Ron Poullos, No, it was Meyer

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Speaker 2: Meyer win a I'm pretty sure if I remember this correctly,

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Speaker 2: He's a hell of a high school quarterback. I'm flashing

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Speaker 2: back all right back to the headlines. Uh. I like

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Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith reports it's for four point five million dollars

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Speaker 2: Hockey Blue Jackets skate on home ice versus the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Wild tonight seven o'clock. Blue Jackets, coming off a four

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Speaker 2: tragic news today, seven people, including NASCAR driver Greg Biffle,

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Speaker 2: We started to talk about this off air, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get into what Zach has said this week and the

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Speaker 4: This team at home.

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Speaker 2: Playing for its collective playoff lives, no showed.

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Speaker 4: They got to be twenty four to nothing.

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Speaker 2: They had the ball for thirty nine minutes, they ran

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Speaker 2: don't know why that isn't more talked about in terms

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Speaker 4: They look cold, Yeah, they look cold.

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Speaker 3: The car and to your point, I mean they had

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Speaker 4: That's hard to do, right.

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Speaker 2: We'll ask Trags a little bit about that, but a

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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into it with our first guest, our regular.

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Speaker 2: He covers the Bengals for c LNS Sincy with thewy

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Speaker 2: dot com host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: the man they referred to as Trags and Mike Petrellia.

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Speaker 2: Imagine how easy it would have been and what it

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Speaker 2: would have been like yesterday had Duke Tobin just walked

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Speaker 2: into the room before Zach and said, guys, I know

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Speaker 2: you're aware of the report. What questions can I answer

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know that's not the standard operating procedure

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Speaker 5: It's just I mean, that's why you have to understand

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Speaker 5: that part of Zach Taylor's job description is to answer

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Speaker 5: he gets paid what he does by the Browns and

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Speaker 5: Blackburns to handle, you know, the stuff when it hits

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Speaker 5: on colnssinc dot com, he handles it with great grace.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't get short with us for the most part,

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Speaker 5: and when he does, he still is pretty polite about it.

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Speaker 6: But that still.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't answer why he was given a two year or

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Speaker 5: Somebody would you would think, step forward from the organization

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Speaker 5: and say, well, this is why we extended him twice

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Speaker 5: going to be forthcoming, obviously. I asked that question yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Zach was not going to illuminate us as who came

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Speaker 5: about And you know, it's just part of the reality

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Speaker 6: You accept it and move on.

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Speaker 3: So not disclosing the contract would is still ridiculous, but okay, fine,

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Speaker 3: but now it's there.

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Speaker 4: It exists.

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Speaker 3: The contract extension happened. You asked Zach Taylor about it,

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Speaker 3: and he's not He can't comment on it like it's factual.

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Speaker 3: It exists, Like like, what was the in your opinion?

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Speaker 3: Why was he reluctant to even answer.

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Speaker 6: That, because I don't.

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Speaker 5: I think he feels like he was would be betraying

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Speaker 5: Think he doesn't want to take the chance of speaking

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Speaker 5: we don't get a chance to speak to other people

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Speaker 5: detail the contract that he signed is.

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Speaker 6: Because he feels there was.

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Speaker 5: An agreement between himself, the Blackburns, and Duke Tobin. And

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Speaker 5: the same can be said for Joe Burrow when he

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Speaker 5: negotiated his mass of two hundred and seventy five million

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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase and t Higgins. When Rocky Arsenal was negotiating

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Speaker 5: that deal for his two clients with the team, again,

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Speaker 5: the details were very very quiet, and the Bengals successfully

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Speaker 6: He's missed a lot of time.

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Speaker 5: He wants to get that first career NFL sack, and

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Speaker 6: And I'm sure he would too.

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Speaker 2: Excellent stuff as always, Thank you sir.

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Speaker 2: He is Trags on the Bengals beat. We'll take a

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Speaker 2: this week's hot topic around the NFL. We'll make it

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Speaker 2: champions on and off the field. It's a combination of things,

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Speaker 7: Yesterday there was a report that your contract with the

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Speaker 8: Not to announce it a year after they announced.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it won't matters. I coach every day,

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Speaker 9: Compete for division titles and championships, and so this year

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Speaker 10: So I'm very confident we can.

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Speaker 3: That is a great way of describing it. You're right

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Speaker 2: It's not like there's any opinion on it.

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Speaker 3: When you when you're not, when you can't comment on

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, and it leads to this. Here is trags

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Speaker 5: You don't get a chance to talk to ownership or

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Speaker 10: You just talk every week?

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Speaker 8: Every week talk about the contractor.

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Speaker 9: Every week we talk about everything. Contract that's not really

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Speaker 8: we don't get a chance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't make it up. You just

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Speaker 2: can't make up this type of comedy. I mean, what

439
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Speaker 2: what are we doing? What are we doing? I just

440
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Speaker 2: I feel like it doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: I guess they're saying, look, we don't want you know,

442
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Speaker 3: do out there talking because you know, then it creates

443
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Speaker 3: headlined No, no, this creates headlines. Can go if he

444
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Speaker 3: goes out there and just says, hey, here's what's going on.

445
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Speaker 3: And there's ways of answering questions without really answering them.

446
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Speaker 3: But at least there's some you don't feel like there's

447
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Speaker 3: a transparency that people feel and there's not that doesn't

448
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Speaker 3: exist right now.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brenham in This Morning does his has his weekly

450
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Speaker 2: conversation with Zach, and Tom asked Zach about this very

451
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Speaker 2: line of questioning and Zach having to speak for the

452
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Speaker 2: organization without anybody else willing to speak. Here's what Tom

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Speaker 2: asked in how Zach answered.

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Speaker 11: Does it ever get tough? For you, because I got

455
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Speaker 11: to be honest with you, I do feel for you

456
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Speaker 11: oftentimes in having to basically be the spokesperson for the

457
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Speaker 11: entire franchise almost on a daily basis, Does it wear

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Speaker 11: on you at all?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: No, I embrace it. I like the approach that we have.

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Speaker 12: I look around the league and there's plenty of instances

462
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Speaker 12: where you would hope that people wouldn't talk. And because

463
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Speaker 12: it's just it's a lot of different voices and now

464
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Speaker 12: you get a lot of different opinions and you get

465
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Speaker 12: to cipher through you know they have the same page

466
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Speaker 12: or not. And so I know from working in this

467
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Speaker 12: building and being with everybody every day, ownership personnel, that

468
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Speaker 12: we are on the same page.

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Speaker 10: We're very like minded.

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Speaker 12: I don't mind during the season at all being the

471
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Speaker 12: one that speaks. I think that's the right way to

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Speaker 12: do it. And again, because I've seen around the league

473
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Speaker 12: where you just wish people would would not talk. And

474
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Speaker 12: so again everyone's got their opinion, everyone's got their style.

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Speaker 12: This is what works for us, and I'm fully on board.

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Speaker 2: Up earlier this morning, Tom Brendaman here on seven hundred

477
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Speaker 2: WLW with Zach Taylor Rock, I will repeat what I

478
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Speaker 2: tweeted yesterday and I've printed it out so I can

479
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Speaker 2: read it word for word. It is patently absurd that

480
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Speaker 2: Zach is forced by the organization to be the one

481
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Speaker 2: that is uncomfortable and defensive in addressing questions about things

482
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Speaker 2: done by the organization. It is the structure and the

483
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: float chart of responsibility and accountability is out of whacken

484
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Speaker 2: this franchise because Zach should not be answering when Trey

485
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: is holding out.

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Speaker 4: That should be Duke Tobin.

487
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Speaker 2: Zach should not be asked to comment on Shamar Stewart's

488
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Speaker 2: hold out. That should be Duke Tobin. When Jermaine Burton

489
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Speaker 2: is released, that should be Duke Tobin talking about his

490
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Speaker 2: draft pick and why I was released. When Joe Burrow

491
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Speaker 2: says what he says, the comment should be in reaction

492
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Speaker 2: from Duke Toobin about the organization. It's just that stuff

493
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: should not be on the plate. And it's the one

494
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Speaker 2: part of me that leads me to feel sorry. As

495
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Speaker 2: much as you can feel sorry for an NFL head

496
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Speaker 2: coach making a nice paycheck, but it makes me feel

497
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Speaker 2: sorry for Zach that he is forced into being the

498
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Speaker 2: face and representative in answering all of those questions. It

499
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Speaker 2: is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, So is that like explicitly

502
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Speaker 3: stated before they hire a head coach, which you.

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Speaker 2: Know it is understood.

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Speaker 4: Is it okay? Is it stated or is it just

505
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Speaker 4: along the way.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. And consider this. Zach Taylor is

507
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Speaker 2: required by the NFL to speak three times a week

508
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: Sunday after the game, Monday afternoon and Wednesday afternoon required

509
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Speaker 2: three times a week. This organization speaks three times in

510
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Speaker 2: a calendar year. They speak with Duke at the Senior Bowl,

511
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: they speak at the Combine, and they speak on media

512
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Speaker 2: Day to open up training camp.

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Speaker 4: Three times.

514
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Speaker 2: The organization speaks about what they're doing and why they're

515
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Speaker 2: doing it, while the coach is forced to do it

516
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Speaker 2: three times a week by the league. It's just it's

517
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Speaker 2: not fair and it's not right.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and this is the only organization that operates

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Speaker 3: this way correct.

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Speaker 4: And look, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't want Jerry Jones would be the extreme

522
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Speaker 2: because Jerry's out there answering every question, holds a news

523
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: conference after every game. I go back to what you

524
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: said a couple of weeks ago. I'd forgotten about Bill

525
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: Polly and actually actually doing a weekly radio show when

526
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: you were playing, where he would take calls from people

527
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Speaker 2: and he would answer questions about why the organization does things.

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Speaker 4: Just I just do.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like out of care and respect for

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Speaker 3: your head coach. Yes, you should not want him to

531
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Speaker 3: have to be burned with all the other stuff that

532
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Speaker 3: he already is burdened by.

533
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Speaker 2: That is a fantastic point that that may be if you.

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Speaker 4: It just I don't care.

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Speaker 2: It just it drives me crazy, and I go back

536
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: to Trags wrote this in his piece for CLNS Sincy,

537
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: and Zach uses that line that really bothers me when

538
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: he talks about when things are going poorly and he

539
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: says we're all accountable for that, and yet they're not

540
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: because is Trags wrote in the piece, there are no

541
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: consequences for failure. There are none, there's no consequences for failure,

542
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: and yet Zach will continually say we're all accountable to

543
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: that and for that, well, I don't even know what

544
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: that means, because nobody's ever held accountable for anything. I mean,

545
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: you have the the those making the decision who aren't

546
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: accountable because they tell the coach to go explain it

547
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: to everybody. I just I don't know. I don't know.

548
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: And here we are at four and ten. Take a

549
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: time out and continue. Let's get into the defensive side

550
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: of things and more on what transpired on Sunday.

551
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: It is six forty eight.

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Speaker 2: It's the Roundtable Show Long nex in Wider presented by

553
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Postman Law seven hundred WLW close it in on seven o'clock.

554
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: We're rolling tonight. Chad Brendall, the barricat journal checks in

555
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: at seven. Lance McAllister rockey boyman. I assume the kids

556
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: are fired up, ready for Christmas.

557
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're fired up.

558
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: Their last day of school is today. Now do you

559
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: like Christmas morning? Is there a set time? This is

560
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: what I ran into. This is why I'm asking because

561
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: when Casey and Peyton were little, it was whenever they

562
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Speaker 2: got up Christmas began, and that could be like six

563
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Speaker 2: to fifteen in the morning. I will say I miss

564
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Speaker 2: the I will always maintain I missed the pitter patter

565
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Speaker 2: of their feet, hearing them run down the hallway Christmas

566
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Speaker 2: morning into our bedroom. But if it was six fifteen,

567
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: that's when Christmas started. As they've gotten older, we've had

568
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Speaker 2: to negotiate with the time for Casey to actually get up,

569
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Speaker 2: because if it were up to him, he's looks all

570
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: about noon and Christmas would start around twelve thirty. So

571
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Speaker 2: we've gone through that that change of Christmas dud. Do

572
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: you have a set parameter when they are up?

573
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Speaker 3: You go, No, with a seven and a five year old,

574
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Speaker 3: it is whenever they wake up, which is I gotta

575
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Speaker 3: say they've they've not gotten up at you know, five

576
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Speaker 3: thirty six in the morning, you know, seven, seven thirty.

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Speaker 2: I assume you've learned that there'll be no assembling of

578
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: toys the night before. You either buy them assembled or

579
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Speaker 2: you don't buy them. Or are you one who likes

580
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Speaker 2: to assemble toys?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I don't mind it, but yeah, I

583
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Speaker 3: usually do it, Yeah, after the gift has opened.

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Speaker 4: Unless yeah, I'd say all right, do it afterward.

585
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Speaker 2: Let's do a couple of things before the top of

586
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Speaker 2: the air. Let's do the injury report Postman Law. Injury

587
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Speaker 2: with T. Higgins, who was still in can cushion protocol

589
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Speaker 2: and is while that listed is doubtful, I would think

590
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: it would be doubtful that he would play. On Sunday,

591
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Speaker 2: we review last week's defensive play of the game. Brought

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Speaker 4: I think it is.

596
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Speaker 2: Safe to say the biggest progress this show has made

597
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: from week one to now is my mastering of that car.

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Speaker 4: It just rolls off the top. I mean, at one

599
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: point Phyllis had to hold you a Q car.

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Speaker 2: That's how bad it got.

601
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Speaker 4: Yes, but here we are.

602
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Speaker 2: Like the first four weeks, I was a mess, and

603
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Speaker 2: then for like week five it was clearly in my head.

604
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Speaker 2: And then by week six Phyllis just felt so sorry

605
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Speaker 2: for me. She just stood up in the middle of

606
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Speaker 2: the show and held up a card for me to read.

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Speaker 3: You know you're getting good at this. You may have

608
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Speaker 3: a future in this talk radio thing man.

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Speaker 2: By the way, thanks to Frand and Phillis. Fran and

610
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: his lovely wife Phyllis were very kind of giving us

611
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Speaker 2: little Christmas goodie back.

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Speaker 4: Wait, this was this minor ours, It says.

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Speaker 2: Rocky, so I assume it's you were I put mine

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Speaker 2: in my back.

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Speaker 4: Chocolate.

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Speaker 2: Very nice. That was very nice.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, thank you, and it's good to have Mike Mills here.

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Speaker 2: One of the stars in our photo that we took

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Speaker 2: last week that Fran you know, was it may have

621
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Speaker 2: been the best picture Frans taken because the flash was

622
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Speaker 2: working and it was perfectly framed.

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Speaker 4: He's gotten better as the season's gone on.

624
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Speaker 2: Strike progress me, Frian, progress, Absolutely, I had something else. Oh,

625
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: let me do what we're doing.

626
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Speaker 4: I told you this is gonna be one of those shows.

627
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Speaker 2: Let's review. All of this will get me going. Let's

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Speaker 2: Bengals are down seventeen to nothing last week, and if

632
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Speaker 2: you were ever wondering about their desire to just go home,

633
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: they were down seventeen and managed to go on a

634
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: sixteen play drive covering eighty five yards that consumed eight

635
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Speaker 2: minutes off the clock. They didn't score any points, but

636
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm watching and they're huddling up, and there's forty seconds

637
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: ticking off the clock from one.

638
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: Play to the next.

639
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: They were down by three scores and they just they

640
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: took eight I've never heard of a team down three

641
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: scores going on a sixteen play eight minute drive just

642
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: taking their time as though they just wanted to get

643
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Speaker 2: things over with and go home.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing is, you know, it takes as

645
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: a longer amount of plays, but there wasn't the urgency

646
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Speaker 3: in between play.

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Speaker 4: Hey, let's get up on the line.

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Speaker 3: I know they have a no huddle offense where they

649
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Speaker 3: communicate the enhand signal.

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Speaker 4: And all that, but let's huddle walk to the line.

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Speaker 4: What do you think? I agree.

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Speaker 3: I think they were like, you know what, this just

653
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: flat ain't happening today. Let's get out. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: last half a quarter of the game was you know,

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Speaker 3: just and see.

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Speaker 4: That's why, really, I.

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Speaker 2: Go back to what I said earlier, of all the

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Speaker 2: things that happened. And you can debate Zach, you can

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Speaker 2: debate Joe. I don't think there's been nearly enough like

660
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Speaker 2: spotlight shining white hot light on. Would somebody like to

661
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Speaker 2: explain how, with the season on the line, playing at home,

662
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Speaker 2: that team turned in that performance, Because I guarantee you

663
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Speaker 2: that performance, especially driven by an offensive minded coach whose

664
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Speaker 2: team scored collectively zero points, that performance would have gotten

665
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Speaker 2: somebody fired in thirty one other NFL cities.

666
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Speaker 4: I have no doubt in my.

667
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Speaker 3: Mind, especially considering there's been other multiple examples of where

668
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: the team has not looked good or not played well.

669
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Speaker 3: It wasn't like this was just some fluke right out

670
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Speaker 3: of the blue sort of situation.

671
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Speaker 4: No, that we've seen this kind of before. This was

672
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Speaker 4: just the culmination.

673
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Speaker 2: Fourth time losing by at least twenty two points in

674
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Speaker 2: a game this year, and we certainly remember the stretch

675
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: that's hard in the NFL. It absolutely the NFL is

676
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: is competitive that these days right now in terms of

677
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: merging of victory as it's been maybe ever in The

678
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: Bengals have lost four times by twenty two points and

679
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: went through a three week stretch with Jake Browning where

680
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: they simply weren't competitive. They didn't even look like an

681
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: NFL team. And yet not only does nothing happen now,

682
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: nothing's gonna happen going into the offseason. That's the thing

683
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: that leaves fans just and friend just wanting to.

684
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Speaker 4: Pull their hair out.

685
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Speaker 3: It's I mean, fans are feeling the same thing Joe

686
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: Burrow did. I think last week.

687
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Speaker 2: That's a great way put it's, you.

688
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: Know, is the realization that this isn't just all of

689
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: a sudden gonna change and be different next year. It's

690
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the same thing, same characters, same cast,

691
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: same people leading it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention I read the card. For the

695
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: defensive play of the game, I'll go with Jordan Battle,

696
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: who came up with the interception, his fourth of the season.

697
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: Quick thought on the defense Dan the hour, I ask

698
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: Trags about Shamar Stewart. I think it's rather important is

699
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: gonna play. I think these next three games, in terms

700
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: of anybody on this roster, they may be no more

701
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: important than it for anybody but him in terms of

702
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: needing to do something for him to feel good, needing

703
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: to do something for the coaches to feel good going

704
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: into the off season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or else.

706
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Speaker 3: I mean, he is in a bunch of drafts of

707
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: of you know where they haven't turned out.

708
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Speaker 4: Well, this would be the bust of all busts, and

709
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: it is.

710
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Speaker 3: I think it is just patently incomprehensible how a guy

711
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: that big and that fast, with that kind of skill

712
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: set can't get at least even more tackles. There's got

713
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: to be some something he has to show here in

714
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: these last three games.

715
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Speaker 2: All right, that's one hour in the books. That was fun,

716
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: that was spirited. Let's go into the seven o'clock hour

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we go our number two unfolding from long Next

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Speaker 2: Lance pc Allister, Rocky Boyman. We take it till eight tonight.

737
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Speaker 2: The West Miller Show will follow. At that point, let's

738
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Speaker 2: talk some uce football, squeeze in some basketball as well.

739
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Speaker 2: Next up the Liberty Bowl versus Navy in Memphis on Friday,

740
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Speaker 2: January second. For more on that and all things UCE athletics,

741
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: is welcome in from Bearcat Journal dot com. Chad Barndel.

742
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: How are you.

743
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 13: Well. I missed the mark. I'm letting my dogs out

744
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 13: by I think thirty seconds.

745
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 4: Oh oh, mess out.

746
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 13: It was not raining when I walked in, because I

747
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 13: was coming home from filling in from O and I

748
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 13: waited thirty seconds and I went to let them out,

749
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Speaker 13: and it's now pouring down rain here in Independence, Kentucky.

750
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 13: So the dogs took one step outside, turned around, looked

751
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Speaker 13: at me and said, no, thank you sir.

752
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: Sorry.

753
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: Yes, let's start with as much as we've talked about

754
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: departures in the portal, let's talk about the news of

755
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: significance today, the retention of three offensive linemen who are

756
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: gonna run it back, and good news for the Bearcats.

757
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: Detail who's returning and how significant that is.

758
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 13: Well, it's probably gonna be the entire left side of

759
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 13: your line. You're gonna have Jokob, who was one of

760
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 13: the highest ranked transfers in the portal, had a very

761
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 13: good first year at Cincinnati. He's coming back. Evan Tengestahl,

762
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 13: who has in many regards, been named an All American

763
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 13: second third team All American for his first season as

764
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 13: a starter at left guard, and then Taran TiO, who

765
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 13: played right guard this year. My anticipation is that Tyo

766
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 13: will move to center next year. So left guard, left

767
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 13: tackle and center coming back for next year. That certainly

768
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 13: raises your floor. If you're looking at you know, what

769
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 13: is this team? What is the next iteration of Scott

770
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 13: Saderfield football look like? At Cincinnati? Having those three guys back, Boy,

771
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 13: you can sell a portal quarterback on that big time. Hey,

772
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 13: you're going to be protected. You can sell running backs

773
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 13: in the portal on it. You can sell running back

774
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 13: that you have on your robster that you'd like to keep. Hey,

775
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 13: you know, we've got the line coming back. So it's

776
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 13: a big first step in stabilizing the roster for twenty

777
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Speaker 13: twenty six.

778
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Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterback, the Bearcats couldn't find him easily four

779
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: million dollars apparently to keep Brandon swersby. So that means

780
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Speaker 3: I guess Lichtenberg and more are the options. Who do

781
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: you think starts this bowl game? And then what do

782
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: you think happens? Are either of those two guys or

783
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: more in the mix for next season?

784
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 13: Well, Brady Lichtenberg actually his freshman year at UC was

785
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Speaker 13: nineteen eighty four.

786
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Speaker 4: He's been there a little while.

787
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Speaker 13: Yes, so this is this is it for Lickti his

788
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 13: last who Rah? I do anticipate that he will start

789
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 13: in the bowl game. Samas Jones is a red shirt freshman.

790
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Speaker 13: He will play at some point in time. I'm in

791
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 13: Memphis on the third or on the second, excuse me,

792
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Speaker 13: and then I think he will. He'll be around to

793
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 13: compete for the job. They're gonna They've got Brooks Goodman

794
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 13: coming in as a freshman who they really like a lot,

795
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Speaker 13: but true freshman, you're gonna have to hit the portal

796
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Speaker 13: for one starting level quarterback, and you might have to

797
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Speaker 13: hit the portal for potentially a backup guy just to

798
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Speaker 13: get that room back up to size because that's you know,

799
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Speaker 13: you need four five quarterbacks in that room, and right

800
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 13: now it's gonna be sam Os Jones and a freshman,

801
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 13: so gonna have to bulk up that room in the

802
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 13: portal for sure. And by the way, Rock four million

803
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 13: is a very low ball number on what Brandon Stores

804
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 13: is going to get. I've I've heard five north of

805
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 13: five at times.

806
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Speaker 4: Wow, oh pays to be a quarterback.

807
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: I realize Navy doesn't exactly sling it around the field.

808
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: I think they average fourteen passes a game, but that

809
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: the current status of the UC secondary appears rather sparse,

810
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: does it not.

811
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Speaker 13: I think Heagan is suiting up tomorrow.

812
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Speaker 6: It's safety.

813
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 13: It's gonna be ugly, but I'm gonna be there, you know,

814
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 13: at eleven o'clock to watch. Yeah, they're they're gonna be relying,

815
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 13: and honestly, I don't hate it because you're gonna need

816
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 13: a lot of these freshmen and red shirt freshmen to

817
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 13: show growth and you're gonna at least through these Bowl practices.

818
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 13: And even though Navy doesn't throw the ball a ton,

819
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 13: they throw it more than a standard triple option team

820
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 13: this year. Usually triple option teams will throw four times, yeah,

821
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 13: in a game, and they throw fourteen, So I mean

822
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 13: break out the air raid. But you're gonna need to

823
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 13: see what you've got in some of these guys and

824
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 13: to see if you can throw them in there, put

825
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 13: their feet to the fire and see if they can

826
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Speaker 13: hold their own. Because you know, if we're at that

827
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 13: point right, a lot of people are worried. We haven't

828
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 13: seen anything from the high school guys. It's a developmental program.

829
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Speaker 13: You don't see a lot of freshmen and red shirt

830
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 13: freshmen on the field. But now these guys are getting

831
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Speaker 13: into the second third year in the program. You're gonna

832
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 13: need to find out what you got. If the guys

833
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 13: that you know really the only one I think they

834
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 13: really would have liked to keep with Christian Harrison. I'm

835
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 13: sure they would have been okay if Takuan Sanks would

836
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 13: have stayed around, But I don't think they were going

837
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 13: to overpay at that spot because you already have Antoine

838
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 13: Pete there. So let's find out what we got. Let's

839
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 13: see throw these guys' feet to the fire and see

840
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 13: how they hold up against you know, a Navy team

841
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 13: that's gonna be physical, get down in the box, make

842
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 13: some tackles. Boys.

843
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Gotta ask you a basketball question. James has clearly been

844
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: through a lot. He had a nice moment last night.

845
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: I was happy for him last night. He was smiling

846
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: last night. Give me a big picture observation of this situation,

847
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: and what do you make of it?

848
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 13: Is it what I would have done bringing him back

849
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 13: this early from the situation he went through?

850
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Speaker 10: No?

851
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 13: Probably not. Is it what I would have done if

852
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 13: I had a multimillion dollar a year job on the

853
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 13: line and had my leading scorer from a year ago

854
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 13: at practice but not on the floor for games.

855
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 8: Yeah.

856
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 13: Probably. And that's not to excuse Wes Miller. That's just

857
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 13: reality of the situation. There's not a whole lot of

858
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 13: multimillion dollars a year jobs out there. If you've got

859
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 13: one of them, I imagine you're you're gonna do whatever

860
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 13: you can to try to keep it. That's where kind

861
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 13: of this falls for me. He thought Gigzle could help him,

862
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 13: and there's other things. Obviously. You could see his teammates

863
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 13: were really happy to have Gizzle back yesterday, laughing, smiling

864
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 13: on the bench, having a good time, enjoying him coming

865
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 13: back and playing well. The injuries are mounting up. Like

866
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 13: I get some of the stuff that WEX talked about

867
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 13: in the post game, but for me, let's be honest here.

868
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 13: They need wins. They were six and four. Yeah, times

869
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 13: running out and there is no next year if they

870
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 13: don't get this thing figured out. So putting Jills James

871
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 13: back on the floor. I get it from a coaches standpoint,

872
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 13: just want to make sure it ends up being the

873
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 13: right thing by the kid. Yes, and at least the

874
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 13: early returns are good.

875
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Speaker 6: Good.

876
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Speaker 2: Like going on a portal the bowl game basketball, you

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrows spoke yesterday. And when Joe speaks, he's very

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Speaker 2: He's very reflective, very thoughtful. Joe doesn't say things just

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Speaker 2: let's listen to a couple of things he said yesterday. First,

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Speaker 2: Joe talking about with three games left, that much discussed,

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Speaker 2: should Joe play. Here's what Joe said.

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Speaker 14: Feels like everybody's trying to do everything in their power

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Speaker 14: to make me not play football, and I feel like.

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Speaker 10: I'm fighting it, like fighting everybody else. I just want

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Speaker 10: to play. I just want to play ball. That's all

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Speaker 10: I want to do.

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Speaker 3: Speculation after last week, just in general about your comments

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Speaker 3: last week, how much do you love playing a lot?

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Speaker 6: Every year?

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Speaker 10: Ever?

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Speaker 4: Thought about?

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Speaker 14: Not we think about it, but you think about a

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Speaker 14: lot of different things and in your life, just like

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Speaker 14: everybody does.

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Speaker 10: You think about all different possibilities that could happen. I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna be playing for a long time.

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Speaker 14: I expect to play for a long time, and expect

948
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Speaker 14: to play well and consistently great for a long time.

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Speaker 8: Is anybody in the building trying to get you to

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Speaker 8: not play?

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Speaker 10: No? What's it like.

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Speaker 8: Here and your fans? You'd like to phtograph we'd like at.

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Speaker 2: Joe, how frustrating is it to hear that given all

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Speaker 2: the work that you put in, I mean, is your

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Speaker 2: reaction with people kind of say stuff like that.

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Speaker 14: Obviously, fans are going to have their opinions about what

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Speaker 14: their favorite teams should or shouldn't do.

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Speaker 10: That's what makes the sport great.

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Speaker 14: That's why revenues are so high, and that's why we

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Speaker 14: get paid so much, because fans care a lot about.

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Speaker 10: What we do and who we are and all things

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Speaker 10: that come with that. So that's part of it.

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Speaker 14: That's something that you have to number one, embrace. Number

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Speaker 14: two take with a grain of salt a lot. This

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Speaker 14: comes with the territory.

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Speaker 2: Are we cool with Joe playing the final three games?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because you know, if he's healthy, which he is,

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Speaker 3: he absolutely should. I we live in the day and

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Speaker 3: age of in the NBA. There's load management, right, which I.

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Speaker 4: Think is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, this is

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Speaker 3: a game for fans and they pay money to see

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Speaker 3: star players and I can't.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't watch the NBA or go to games, but

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'd be upset to to holy hell

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Speaker 3: if I went and they're being guys just didn't play.

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Speaker 4: So I think Joe Burrow should play.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you said that because I've

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Speaker 2: been looking at this is perfect on January. I think

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Speaker 2: it's January the second the Pacers play the San Antonio

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Speaker 2: Spurs and Victor Webbin Yamba, the big guy, the freak,

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Speaker 2: and I will to see Victor Weben Yama, and Casey

984
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Speaker 2: wants to see him. And I thought, and I've been

985
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Speaker 2: tracking tickets at Gamebridge Fieldhouse to go to the game,

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Speaker 2: but I thought it would be our luck. We'd buy

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Speaker 2: tickets to this game and Victor would not play in

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Speaker 2: that game. And we had an experienced a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago where we wanted to see Steph Curry play,

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Speaker 2: and we bought tickets, and we drove to Indianapolis and

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Speaker 2: we were standing in line to get in with our

992
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Speaker 2: looked on Twitter and I saw a note from the

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Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors beat writer and he said Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: will not play tonight, He'll rest. And it just forever

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Speaker 2: changed how I look at buying tickets in advance of

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Speaker 2: anything based on variables like that, and I just I

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Speaker 2: don't have a guarantee. Victor Wemben Yama is gonna play

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Speaker 2: on January the second, so I'm not gonna buy tickets

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Speaker 2: and drive over.

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Speaker 4: And You're not the only one that looks at that way.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's killing the NBA, especially back in

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Speaker 3: an era when in the NBA hey day, back when

1004
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Speaker 3: I was younger and watching it.

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Speaker 4: Guy's played because that's what you do.

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Speaker 3: If you're a football player and you're healthy, you should

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Speaker 3: play football.

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Speaker 2: Very well said. Here is Joe reacting to the thought,

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Speaker 2: the sense that there will not be changes in this

1010
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Speaker 2: organization structurally this off season. Here's QB one.

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Speaker 10: I think we have great coaches.

1012
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 14: I think we're consistently putting good positions to make plays

1013
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 14: and do our best. Obviously, there's good games in bad games,

1014
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Speaker 14: just like players have good games in bad games. Because

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Speaker 14: I have a lot of confidence and everybody that's putting

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Speaker 14: together the plans for us weekend and week out, that's

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Speaker 14: time to say that changes don't need to be made.

1018
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Speaker 14: Not saying personnel or people. I'm just saying, you know,

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00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 14: what we've been doing hasn't worked the last couple of years,

1020
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Speaker 14: so you know, we have to think outside the box

1021
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Speaker 14: to creative about where we go from here.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a very interesting final part of that statement.

1023
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: It's clear it hasn't worked and we need to be

1024
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Speaker 2: think out of the box and do things differently. Are

1025
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Speaker 2: they willing to do that as an organization? Well, Joe

1026
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Speaker 2: Burrow has always.

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Speaker 3: Been pretty savvy about, you know, getting his point across

1028
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Speaker 3: to the right ears in a press conference, which is

1029
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Speaker 3: what you want out of your quarterback. You want somebody

1030
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Speaker 3: that has the savvy to be able to do that

1031
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Speaker 3: and the message has been transferred.

1032
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Speaker 4: Will anybody listen?

1033
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess prior examples would tell you no.

1034
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Speaker 2: Very well said. Again, here's one more from Joe. This

1035
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Speaker 2: is Joe Burrow being asked about voicing his opinion on

1036
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Speaker 2: potential changes.

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Speaker 8: Have you voiced your opinion to them? Cront office?

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Speaker 10: We have constant communication, a lot of conversations. A pretty

1039
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Speaker 10: vague question.

1040
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Speaker 6: I think.

1041
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Speaker 8: You can be a specific.

1042
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know you guys, I know I can.

1043
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Speaker 14: There's always conversations being had about different perspectives about what's

1044
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 14: happening and what's going on that are being shared with

1045
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Speaker 14: the big changes.

1046
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Speaker 13: Would you expect them to them talk to.

1047
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Speaker 10: You about them?

1048
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Speaker 14: If they were having conversations about that, about big potential changes,

1049
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Speaker 14: head coach, director, play friends, stuff like that. I appreciate

1050
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Speaker 14: being informed those decisions that are being made. That's not

1051
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 14: to say that I need to be involved in the

1052
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Speaker 14: decision making processes, but I enjoy being kept up to

1053
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Speaker 14: date about thought processes and.

1054
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Speaker 10: Decision making trees.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, I very much enjoy listening to him because

1056
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Speaker 2: he's very he you can tell he's thinking as he's

1057
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: saying it. It's very thoughtful. It's not off the cuff,

1058
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Speaker 2: and he's trying to find the right word. And and

1059
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Speaker 2: he's somebody who does not say something just to say something.

1060
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Speaker 2: He says something message absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Here's one more. This is a line of questioning from

1063
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Speaker 2: Paul Dayer Junior to Joe Burrow yesterday. Take a listen.

1064
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Speaker 2: Is there, ever, is there any world in your mind

1065
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Speaker 2: when you're not a quarterback with the Fangals next year.

1066
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Speaker 13: I couldn't.

1067
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Speaker 10: I couldn't. I can't see that now.

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Speaker 11: I didn't ever both thought about the possibility of not

1069
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Speaker 11: being the quarterback here during your career or.

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Speaker 10: Do you think about a lot of things?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, you think about a lot of things. You do.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you're wondering that rather annoying click,

1073
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1074
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Speaker 2: they have added a mic this year. You can hear

1075
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Speaker 2: the questions. The downside to having the mic there that

1076
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Speaker 2: closes you hear everybody typing? Is the beat right?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: lives close to home. Who will you save? Let's do

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00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: a little oh oh before college football. I have a

1094
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: high school state championship game moment I need to tell

1095
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: you about. I talked about it earlier in the week.

1096
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: This happened in Louisiana on Friday night, all losing a

1097
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: state championship game.

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00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

1099
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: Team is up one, there's thirty five seconds left. They

1100
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: have the ball first down. They're gonna kneel it out.

1101
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: They're just gonna take these and end the game. On

1102
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: first down, they kneel it. The offensive lineman in celebration

1103
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: and expectation the clock is just gonna run out, takes

1104
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: his helmet off, throws it up in the air and celebration.

1105
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: Flag unsportsmanlike conduct for removal of the helmet that stops

1106
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: the clock. That allows the other team to not have

1107
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: to burn their time out. So then they take the

1108
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: timeout on second down to stop the clock. Take the

1109
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: timeout on third down, stop the clock, forcing them to punt.

1110
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 2: They punt its blocked team recovers, throws one pass down

1111
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: to like the twenty seven yard line, and kicks a

1112
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 2: game winning field goal.

1113
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: I showed my wife clip and horrifying.

1114
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: Oh, because one hand you're just so mad at the kid,

1115
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 3: and the other hand you're like crush for him because

1116
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: his whole life, he's.

1117
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Gonna think about that moment.

1118
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: I thought in that moment, it was like, I forget

1119
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: if they had timeouts left or whatever, and you don't

1120
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 3: want to call a timeout. But it's almost like worth

1121
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: the coach saying, all right, guys, we're gonna win the game.

1122
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one, you know, no, panic, don't.

1123
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: Panic, don't mf somebody, don't take your helmet off.

1124
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: We're ahead. Let's just calmly go when the time.

1125
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: And the other the other aspect, I get kind of

1126
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: complicated if I explained it.

1127
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 4: But the the the.

1128
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: Game winning field goal was kicked by the kid who

1129
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: a minute earlier in the game had missed the point

1130
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: after that would have tied the game. That's why they

1131
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: were or yeah, uh no, I further confused that scratch that.

1132
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: It gets really complicated and I shouldn't have tried to

1133
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: explain it. Okay, but yeah, they they had missed it earlier. Yeah,

1134
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: he had missed an earlier kick, and that was the

1135
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: different game at that point, and oh throws the helmet

1136
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: in celebration, just thinks the clock's going to take the

1137
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: zero and they're going to go home. And and in fact,

1138
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: I well you saw the same video. Some of the

1139
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: players were turning and celebrating with the fans in the

1140
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: stands in high five. But I'm thinking they'd won the

1141
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: game and the yellow flag comes out.

1142
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: Do you remember this? This is why do I remember this?

1143
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: But this two thousand and two Cleveland Browns first or

1144
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: second game of the year.

1145
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Barrett, Barrett Rudd or what was his name? I

1146
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: know who, Yes, Derrick Rudd. I think it's Barrett. I

1147
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: know who you're talking Derrick Rudd.

1148
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: Like you know helmet, like say, the same thing, thinks

1149
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: to win the game, Helmet tosses right, game, can't stop

1150
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: on a defensive penalty, Ye, so and so gets the ball.

1151
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: Back, same sort of scenario.

1152
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: And I remember that because we played the Browns the

1153
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: next week and Jeff Fisher put that on the film

1154
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: to talk about that. He said the Browns are a

1155
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: helmet toss away from being three and ozer or whatever.

1156
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, Dwayne.

1157
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: Rudd out of Dwayne Rudder.

1158
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, all right.

1159
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: Heisman.

1160
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: Heisman is official for Nando Mendoza becomes the first Indiana

1161
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: Hoosier to ever win the Heisman Trophy. We were again

1162
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: this year with a chance to vote in the process.

1163
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: It's an online process. You enter your first place, second place,

1164
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: third place submit, not allowed to talk about it till

1165
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: after it's done. I will give you my final ballot

1166
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: and then you give me yours if you're ready.

1167
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: Yes.

1168
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: In third place, I voted Jeremiah Love, running back Notre Dame.

1169
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: Fantastic season carried a lot of responsibility and weight of

1170
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: that season with what he did as the running back.

1171
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: And two, I took Diego Diego Pavia, who lifted an

1172
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: elevated Vanderbilt to place as they'd never gone before. He

1173
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: was dynamic throwing the football, he was dynamic running the football,

1174
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: rush for over eight hundred yards total, thirty plus touchdowns

1175
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: on the air and on the ground. And at number one,

1176
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: I voted for Fernando Mendoza, Indiana Hoosiers talking about taking

1177
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: a team where they hadn't gone and turned in a

1178
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: magical season.

1179
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: He had moments.

1180
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 2: He had the Penn State throw with some help catch

1181
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone, made a couple

1182
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: of spectacular throws in the Big Ten championship game, I

1183
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: went Mendoza one, Pavia two, loved three, and I didn't.

1184
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: You don't vote for a fourth, But I had Julian

1185
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: saying fourth if I would have been asked, how did

1186
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: your ballot? In turn look for the Heisman?

1187
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: But by the way, am I not to say this.

1188
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: I always vote before the championship games because I.

1189
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 4: Don't want I don't want interesting.

1190
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: I don't want one game to sway my because I

1191
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: think you could make an argument, not from your case,

1192
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: but for Mendoza.

1193
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he did have a couple of great throws

1194
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: in that game.

1195
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: I can understand. That's part of the process. To is

1196
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: the recency bias of it. It's an extra game that

1197
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: some other guys don't get. How much do you weigh

1198
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: at it? Yeah, that's that's fair anyway. No, I'm very worthy.

1199
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: So I went number three Mendoza because I just didn't

1200
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: think he had I'm not a stats guy, but I

1201
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: think you had massive number, not massive numbers. Number two

1202
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: Pavia because I thought he was such a great story

1203
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: and unconventional, and I got to see him when.

1204
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 4: He played for New Mexico State.

1205
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: I'll never forget being in Jerry Kill's office is in

1206
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, week zero, and he's like, yeah, I

1207
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: got this quarterback. He saves Diego Poppy. He's from such

1208
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: and such junior college. He was a great high school wrestler.

1209
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: And then the kid walks in the room and he's

1210
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 3: like five foot eleven and you're like, what is this?

1211
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 4: And he was. He was awesome, right, just he just

1212
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: found a way to do it.

1213
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: And then I had a privilege of calling Vanderbilt again

1214
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: this year and by that time he was fantastic.

1215
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 4: So loved him.

1216
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me at number one, Yes, you're

1217
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: just being a good homer.

1218
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: No, I thought, in a year where.

1219
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 3: There wasn't a that dominant five, you know whatever, the

1220
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: top top quarterback guy, I thought, Jeremiah loves performance.

1221
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: And you talk about being the MVP of a team.

1222
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: Yes, he was definitely the MVP of a really, really

1223
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: good Notre Dame team. That's why I and I took

1224
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 3: a lot of heat. Imagine this from Ohio State fans.

1225
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: And why do you have to say and fourth, Well,

1226
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: I could only pick three guys, and it's no disrespect

1227
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: to justin saying and or Julian saying, and I'm not

1228
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: the type who who penalizes somebody because of either system

1229
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: or weapons. But let's be honest. He I mean his

1230
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: wide receiver weapons helped elevate him as well. And I

1231
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: don't I mean, that's not I just I default to

1232
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: I had three spots, and I just thought the other

1233
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: three were better than Julian saying. That doesn't mean I

1234
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: don't like Julian saying.

1235
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: So there the fact that you have to justify that

1236
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: says something about some Ohio State fan.

1237
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that. There you go.

1238
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: By the way, there were six different regions of the

1239
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: country that vote, and the voting is added up by

1240
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: in each region, and every five of the six regions

1241
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: went Mendoza Pavia, Love saying five of the six had.

1242
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: A region went Love, Pavia.

1243
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: I do not see that one. I see the Southwest

1244
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 2: where saying was bumped down to fifth because Jacob Rodriguez

1245
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: of Texas Tech, the linebacker, moved up to fourth in

1246
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: that region. Rodriguez got seventeen first place votes and finished

1247
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: fifth overall. So there you go. It's always an honor

1248
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: for us, and I always I always enjoy because I

1249
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: don't want to It's not that I don't want to

1250
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: be like everyone else, but I'm always curious, like, am

1251
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: I gonna wind up close to what the consensus is?

1252
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: Or am I going to be the outlier? And then

1253
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: if I'm the outlier, did I screw it up? Or

1254
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: is it too easy to go with the flow?

1255
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 4: And you don't want to be the outlier.

1256
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: Just to be the outlier, you want to send people

1257
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: jelly bye they find out ham are you yes? The

1258
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: college football playoffs start this weekend. We'll make that part

1259
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 2: of by the way, hold on here, I'm looking through

1260
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: all my notes and I want to make sure. Let's

1261
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: go ahead and make this the Kelsey Chevrolet College Football

1262
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: Weekend preview. While I'm thinking about it, and we love

1263
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1264
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,880
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1265
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,200
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1266
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: Playoffs get going this weekend, you know, And this isn't

1267
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: really a topic other than an observation. I've always been

1268
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: fascinated rock just because I like numbers of Since the

1269
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: college football playoffs started, there have been eleven editions of

1270
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: this and Traditionally, the games aren't close, and it's always

1271
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: odd to me that the committee's job is to select

1272
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: the best teams and then pin them against each other,

1273
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: and yet the margins of victory are rarely close.

1274
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: In fact, I keep track of this.

1275
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: There have been forty one college football playoff games over

1276
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: eleven seasons, the twenty two semi final games. The average

1277
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: margin of victory in those games has been seventeen points.

1278
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: There have been eleven national Of the last eleven national

1279
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: championship games, the average margin of victory is just over

1280
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: nineteen points, which is odd me because you would think

1281
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: this process would would get us test and narrow it

1282
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: down to the best playing the best. And yet you

1283
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: know last year's title game the Hio State Dame Ohio

1284
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: State Notre Dame was eleven. Michigan the year before won

1285
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: by twenty one over Washington. Georgia BATTCU by fifty eight.

1286
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: Georgia beat Bamba by fifteen, Bamba beat Ohio State by

1287
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: twenty eight. LSU beat Clemson by seventeen. Championship game, semi finals,

1288
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: And of the course of these eleven years, there have

1289
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: been margins of victory of fifty eight thirty nine thirty eight,

1290
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: thirty five, thirty one, twenty eight, twenty eight. And it's

1291
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: just it's odd to me that it hasn't the system

1292
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: hasn't produced better games, and I don't I don't have

1293
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: an explanation for that. I just find it curious.

1294
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 4: Can I project this? Yes, maybe starting this year that

1295
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 4: that trend will die off and it'll.

1296
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: Be closer because because of the portal, there's less dominant

1297
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 3: team tams. Like you go about four years ago, some

1298
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: of those Georgia Alabama teams. Yes, they were the best

1299
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: because they had great depth. Well, now teams don't have

1300
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 3: depth because the fifth or the sixth offensive lineman on

1301
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: Georgia goes and plays somewhere else.

1302
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 4: So maybe that'll that'll die.

1303
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: If you're wondering the spreads for the opening round, Oregon

1304
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: is a twenty one point favorite over James Madison, Ole

1305
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: Miss seventeen and a half points over Tulane. Oklahoma is

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Speaker 2: a one point favorite over Bama and Texas A and

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Speaker 2: m a three point favorite over Miami. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: What do you say we head down the stretch and

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Speaker 2: talk about the get go? Can we do that? He's rocky,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's the Roundtable Show, Long Necks in Wilder

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW al right down the stretch we go.

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Speaker 2: Final segment about to go in the books from Long

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Speaker 2: Necks in Wilder, Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope Sheldon

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Speaker 2: Roundtable Show. It's presented by Postman Law and brought to

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Speaker 2: you in part by our friends at Miami University, where

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Speaker 2: today's students become tomorrow's leaders. Visit Miami O H dot

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Speaker 2: E d U. All Right, tell me the story of

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Speaker 2: the gecko.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's start from the beginning here though, So

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Speaker 3: besides me and Kelly and are three boys. We also

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Speaker 3: have Elvis the Golden Retriever, who just turned sixteen. We

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Speaker 3: have Ryan Know the Golden Retriever, who we think is

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Speaker 3: like six or seven, but we're not sure, okay. And

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Speaker 3: then we recently added Chase the Gecko. His full name

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Speaker 3: is Jamar Chase the Gecko. Okay, Cass what Bronson?

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Speaker 4: It was his thing?

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Speaker 3: Which and by the way, geckos are very expensive. Apparently

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Speaker 3: you got to know a guy. Oh, my mother in

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Speaker 3: law knows a guy. All right, So got the got

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Speaker 3: the gecko, and you know it's got this little quair ramage.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, it's you know whatever, you know, two feet

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Speaker 3: by three foot, you know, nice little size thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were saying the gecko, that's a

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Speaker 4: large dragon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it got this acquirer and the gecko's act

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Speaker 3: is actually really cool, you know, and and it just

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Speaker 3: kind of you know, you put it on your hand

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Speaker 3: and it around your arm and just kind of stayed.

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Speaker 3: I thought it would have been all and skittish and

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Speaker 3: jumping around stuff.

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Speaker 2: So is it gecko a salamander I mean? Or or

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Speaker 2: is it from the gender?

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding, it's I think so right, it looks like

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Speaker 3: salamander ish. So we got this, like, you know whatever,

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Speaker 3: five six months ago, and my wife, as far as

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Speaker 3: one it takes care of it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, now let's go about three weeks ago. There was

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Speaker 3: another addition into the Boyman family, and that is a

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Speaker 3: kitten whose legal name is Coco, but we call her

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Speaker 3: Miss Kitty.

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Speaker 4: That was named by me.

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Speaker 3: So Miss Kitty is a great cat. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: a cat guy, but this is a great little cat.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, so, I you know, get I'm always usually

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Speaker 3: the first one to get up, and I walk in

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Speaker 3: the in the living room there and you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of looking around for the cat and stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I look over at the uh the aquarium where Chase

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Speaker 3: is kept, and the door is open.

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Speaker 4: Uh oh, And I say, oh no, So I, you know.

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Speaker 3: Take the light and I look in there, looking there

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Speaker 3: on the little plastic trees and the little you know,

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Speaker 3: the little water dishes and stuff. There is no Chase

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Speaker 3: gecko gone. So you know, Kelly gets up and you

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Speaker 3: know then you know she's looking around for it. The

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Speaker 3: kids are freaking out if we can't find Chase the gecko.

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Speaker 4: But we think we know what happened. That is, you know,

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Speaker 4: something opened that door and it was miss Kitty, So.

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Speaker 3: Looked around for it. We're looking in crevices of chairs.

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Speaker 3: At this point, this is like a This is no

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Speaker 3: longer like a search and rescue.

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Speaker 4: It's just a like a.

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Speaker 3: We're trying for a recovery situation. We're trying to find

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Speaker 3: the body of the gecko. Didn't find it, you can't

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Speaker 3: find it anything. So looked for a couple of days

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Speaker 3: and we're like, okay, it's gone.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's it's very sad. Well, I come home two days ago.

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Speaker 3: And my wife's like, you're not gonna believe this. And

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Speaker 3: I was like what, and she shows me the picture.

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Speaker 3: It is a picture of the gecko on the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: Floor, like eleven days had gone by, eleven.

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Speaker 2: Days surviving, surviving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't.

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Speaker 3: We didn't leave crickets out for it or nothing like.

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Speaker 3: It's just it just somehow lived outside its freezing. It

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Speaker 3: found water, it found food, and he's back.

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Speaker 13: Is back.

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Speaker 2: Unreal. That is a story that is I'd love to

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Speaker 2: see like a mini go pro audience.

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Speaker 4: It just tried to just.

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Speaker 3: Watched and I told this story on on the Eddy

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Speaker 3: and Rocky Show, and somebody said that he probably stayed

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Speaker 3: around the refrigerator because there's a warm under the oil,

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Speaker 3: little water and a little bit kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: down some scraps right and found you know, probably maybe

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Speaker 3: found a little spare scrap of dog food or something,

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Speaker 3: or maybe the random dead spider in the corner.

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Speaker 2: He lives, He lives, the lives. That is a perfect

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Speaker 2: way to end this show tonight. Also, before I forget

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Speaker 2: that this is our sadly, this is our last gathering

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Speaker 2: as a as a tandem because you're on assignment for

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Speaker 2: the next two weeks. So this officially concludes our run

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Speaker 2: and I say this every year. This is the highlight

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Speaker 2: of the football season for me. I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 2: do it with anybody else. I have great appreciation, and

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Speaker 2: I hope you understand the appreciation I have for the

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Speaker 2: hoops that you go through, the travels you you travel,

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Speaker 2: and the gymnastics of your afternoon show that you go

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Speaker 2: through to do this show.

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Speaker 3: It means the world to me. And thank you, well,

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Speaker 3: thank you. You always warm my heart when you say that.

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Speaker 3: But a pleasure is mine and I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 3: work with anybody else doing this.

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Speaker 4: I truly enjoy. Yeah, it's not easy getting here and

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Speaker 4: doing all that, but I look forward to it. I really,

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Speaker 4: I honestly do because I get a chance.

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Speaker 2: Sending you emails and bugging you with this and that.

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Speaker 4: That's it. Now. Always a blast, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Have a great Bowl season, and I will be uh,

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Speaker 2: I will be watching sounds right, He's rocky. I'm Lance

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Speaker 2: gotta get out of here. This has been the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Roundtable Show, Long, Next

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