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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. As we move into

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Speaker 2: our nine o'clock hour, we welcome everyone back. And of

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Speaker 2: course tonight we had had scheduled a subject at nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock which we have pushed over to tomorrow night, So we

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Speaker 2: will be talking tomorrow night about the difficulty many families

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Speaker 2: are now facing as they try to send I guess

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Speaker 2: you call, you know, toiletries and small gift items to

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Speaker 2: American military personnel serving overseas. Apparently the rules have changed

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Speaker 2: on that, but we'll get to that tomorrow night. At

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock. Tonight, we are going to talk about what

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Speaker 2: has transpired in the Middle East in the last forty

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Speaker 2: eight to ninety six hours. It's been an amazing whirlwind

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Speaker 2: moment in time. Were just a little bit about twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours ago, President Trump made the announcement at the

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Speaker 2: White House that there had been an agreement and let's

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Speaker 2: hope the agreement holds whereby the hostilities would end between

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Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas and that hostages Israeli hostages would be

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Speaker 2: released as part of the first phase of this agreement.

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Speaker 2: This is the President I guess it was either early today.

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Speaker 2: I think it was earlier today. Cut number forty, please Rob.

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Speaker 3: So I want to express my tremendous gratitude to the

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Speaker 3: leaders of Qatar, Egypt, and Turkey for helping us reach

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Speaker 3: this incredible day and for being there.

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Speaker 2: They were there with us all the way.

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Speaker 4: And of course, as you know, Saudi Arabia and Jordan

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Speaker 4: and so many. I will tell you President Erwan was

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Speaker 4: personally involved in dealing with Hamas and some of the others.

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Speaker 3: He's been great, They've all they've all been really amazing.

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Speaker 3: Indonesia's been amazing. Indonesia has been fantastic. The whole world

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Speaker 3: has come together for this.

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Speaker 5: People that didn't get along with people that didn't like

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Speaker 5: each other, neighboring countries that frankly didn't like each other,

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Speaker 5: but now they this this moment in time. So we

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Speaker 5: look forward to welcoming the hostages like you can't believe,

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Speaker 5: home to their families, and that'll take place early next week,

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Speaker 5: we hope, Monday or Tuesday. And all Americans should be

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Speaker 5: proud of the role that our country is.

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Speaker 3: Played in bringing this terrible conflict to the end to

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Speaker 3: an end, and.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have had interest in the safety

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Speaker 2: of the Israeli hostages from October seventh, that horrific Saturday

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Speaker 2: morning of two years ago. In my opinion, none perhaps

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Speaker 2: more so than Newton resident Jeff Kosowski. Jeff Kosowski put

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Speaker 2: on a fence in front of his house photographs of

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Speaker 2: the Israeli hostages, and back in shortly thereafter those posters

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Speaker 2: were placed there, some of them were defaced, and we

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Speaker 2: talked with Jeff Kasowski. Back at that time. He organized

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Speaker 2: a massive outpouring of friends and neighbors and others, and

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Speaker 2: he has been very much involved in this process. So

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Speaker 2: I could think of no better person than to kick

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Speaker 2: off this conversation with then Jeff Kasowski. Later in this

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Speaker 2: hour we will talk with the Israeli Console General Benny

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Speaker 2: Sharoni about the latest on what is going on right

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Speaker 2: now halfway around the world. But first I want to

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the WBZ microphone Jeff Kasowski. Jeff, It's

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Speaker 2: almost seems too good to be true. I hate to

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Speaker 2: put it like that, but if the hostage is a

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Speaker 2: truly going to be released Monday or Tuesday, it almost

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Speaker 2: seems like a miracle.

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Speaker 6: Yes, thanks Dan, and thanks for having me on it's

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Speaker 6: been a long two years, and I'm someone who's only

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Speaker 6: remotely involved compared to those who have direct family or

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Speaker 6: those who live in Israel, although as many listeners may know,

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Speaker 6: we have a friend in Newton whose nephew, Hirst Follen,

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Speaker 6: was murdered as a hostage, so it's never too far away.

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Speaker 6: It's been a long two years. I think there's something

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Speaker 6: very nice about it. It was almost torture in the

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Speaker 6: didn't know who was coming, you didn't know what trick

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Speaker 6: the two red headed children, they thought they're alive, they

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Speaker 6: wrong bodies if I recall correctly. So I think there's

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Speaker 6: something at least it may not it's not a conclusion

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Speaker 6: obviously for the hostage families who where the trauma will

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Speaker 6: And I believe I read that the agreement posits that

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Speaker 6: and I guess their terrorist organization, what can you expect?

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Speaker 6: But they basically put the hostages as they paraded them

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Speaker 6: through very demeaning conditions. So my understanding, at least for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were there were degrading releases where the hostages

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Speaker 2: their captors. Let's just refreshed in my audience's mind. You

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Speaker 2: became very much concerned with this. There had been a

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Speaker 2: very ugly incident in Newton, I think before you got involved,

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Speaker 2: where some of the hostage posters had been had been

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Speaker 2: I mean, a professional if I'm if I'm recalling correctly,

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Speaker 2: who who was videotaped ripping those hostage posters down. And

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Speaker 2: so it wasn't as if everybody in America, Massachusetts, or

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Speaker 2: for that matter, even Newton felt the empathy that that

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Speaker 2: you and your family felt. How was it that you

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Speaker 2: came to post all of these put all of these

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Speaker 6: So a great question. I believe that that woman was

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Speaker 6: somewhere in chest On Hill, which is just down through

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Speaker 6: it obviously from Newton. Yeah, well part of it.

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Speaker 2: Take it take Chestnut Hill is part of Newton. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's one of the villages of Newton. And it was

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Speaker 2: in the The commercial district is called the Street. There's

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Speaker 2: a Shaws and a couple of restaurants, Legal Seafoods is there.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a it's a it's a high end area.

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Speaker 2: And it appalled me, and I'm sure it appalled you,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't need to interrupt, Go right ahead.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think there was a It was in

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Speaker 6: many communities. People wanted didn't want these hostages forgotten. So

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Speaker 6: there was sort of individual efforts of people posting hostage

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Speaker 6: posters to create awareness and sadly, and it wasn't just

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Speaker 6: in Boston. You know, there incidents across the country that

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Speaker 6: people would rip it down and just think of it.

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Speaker 6: You know, you put up and I don't mean to

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Speaker 6: make it a comparison, except in the farcical notion. You know,

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Speaker 6: you put up a picture of a missing dog, and

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Speaker 6: no one tears that down the area of a human

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Speaker 6: persistent with that. You're taken down, you.

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Speaker 7: Put them back up.

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Speaker 6: But I felt we had a reasonable length of property,

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Speaker 6: that property, no one can make an excuse that, oh

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Speaker 6: it's on public property. I can take it down. Our

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Speaker 6: mayor also, you know, for various reasons, was not did

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Speaker 2: And for a while, no one bothered it. And again,

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Speaker 2: if anyone is in Newton, they remember Homer Street is

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Speaker 2: And for a while there wasn't a problem. But there

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Speaker 2: came a Sunday morning where the problem, you know, what

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Speaker 2: I consider to be you know, virulent anti Semitism once

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you're right, And in fact, we I

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Speaker 6: would meet people. It was up for about six months

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Speaker 6: any of the stores, and people would say, oh, you're

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Speaker 6: the one. Well, thank you so much. We only positive feedback.

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Speaker 6: Then someone knocked on our door, almost panic, telling us

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Speaker 6: one Sunday morning, I think at beginning of March, I

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Speaker 6: believe of twenty twenty four that this time we've been vandalized.

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Speaker 6: And we're not talking about one sign. We're talking about

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Speaker 6: they were more than one hundred posters, you know, full

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Speaker 6: but even more concerning, people spray painted over the pictures

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Speaker 6: very very deliberately. And then there were also various anti

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Speaker 6: well as on our property. So that was a big shock.

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Speaker 6: And I think we had two you know, one could

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Speaker 6: We said, the purpose of anybody who tears it down,

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Speaker 6: suppress the memory. Maybe they feel guilty, Maybe they don't

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Speaker 6: like the fact that the side of the terrorist is

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Speaker 7: Shocking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have killed innocent, innocent civilians, men, women,

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Speaker 2: to take a quick break here, okay, and I want

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Speaker 2: He is a resident of Newton who basically stood up

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Speaker 2: And I thought that Jeff is the perfect person to

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Speaker 2: With the release hopefully to be completed on Monday or Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: according to President Trump, back on Nightside with my guest

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Speaker 2: Jeff Kasowski, will we will be talking after the news

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour with Israeli Console General.

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Speaker 2: But Benny SHARONI and if if you want to give

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Speaker 2: us a call and get a word of support in

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Speaker 2: for Jeff or ask a question, we'll try to get

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Speaker 2: a couple of calls in six one seven four thirty

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Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray News Radio.

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Speaker 2: I guess it is Jeff Kasowski. So so, Jeff, the

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Speaker 2: placards that you and your family had posted on the

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Speaker 2: front of fence at the front of your home were defaced,

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Speaker 2: and you decided not only were you going to put

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Speaker 2: those posters back up, but I remember the big rally

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Speaker 2: that you had in April, which was which was fabulous. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And a part of the good news is that apparently

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Speaker 2: in the last year and a half, none of the

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Speaker 2: posters have been defaced.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's correct. And you know, we had a couple

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Speaker 7: It was great.

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Speaker 2: I was I remember being there.

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Speaker 6: I remember, yes, thankfully. You know it's been quiet. I think,

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Speaker 6: you know, attention moved elsewhere in terms of some of

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Speaker 6: the people, some of the outrageous protests, and you know

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Speaker 6: thank god, luckily it's been pretty quiet. So you know,

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Speaker 6: it's now all really about It's not about us, it's

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Speaker 6: not about what we did. It's really now we need

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Speaker 2: Here's what's amazing to me is that out of that

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Speaker 2: Well, we get back when to talk with the Israeli

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Speaker 1: This, It's Nightside with Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: We're delighted to be joined tonight on this very interesting

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Speaker 2: evening by the Israeli Console General to Boston, mister Benny Sharoni,

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Speaker 2: Console General. Welcome to Nightside. Welcome back to Nightside.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Dan, thank you for the opportunity. It's always

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Speaker 7: great to be at your show, especially this evening.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, this is something that would have been difficult

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Speaker 7: So you know me Dan from previous discussions that I'm

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Speaker 7: So I would say the following, you know, the immediate stage,

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Speaker 2: know it's been a long day for you, mister Consul General.

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Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty six

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Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty Back with the

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Speaker 2: Israeli Console General to New England, Benny Sharoni, talking about

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Speaker 2: what is likely to happen over this weekend into early

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Speaker 2: next week and who knows beyond Well, we'll take a

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Speaker 2: quick break, be right back after these messages.

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: My guest is the Console General of Israel to New England,

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Speaker 2: mister Benny Sharoni, Console General. How critical was the relationship

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Speaker 2: between your Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya who and President Trump

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Speaker 2: to the excess of this project? They were not on

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Speaker 2: the same page every day precisely there were differences of

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Speaker 2: opinion between each of them from a tactical point of view,

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Speaker 2: but I think there was tremendous respect, and I just

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Speaker 2: would be interested to know how important that relationship was.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

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Speaker 7: I think extremely important, extremely important.

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Speaker 9: You know, we we.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've been waiting for that moment so for

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Speaker 7: two years now. And I think it takes a lot

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Speaker 7: of leadership, you know, to you know, put all political

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Speaker 7: and diplomatic force into the discussion and into the negotiation

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Speaker 7: room in order to make such such a deal. And

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Speaker 7: we we very difficult to imagine how such a deal

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Speaker 7: would have been broken without United States leadership, without President Trump,

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Speaker 7: without a very close discussion coordination that have been taking

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Speaker 7: place always but specifically over the last weeks and months

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Speaker 7: between US administration and Israeli senior leadership. We can't imagine

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Speaker 7: how such a thing wouldn't happen without those close relations.

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Speaker 2: As I'm sure you probably know, I truly respect your

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister immensely. As a matter of fact, I view

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Speaker 2: him he is to Israel as Churchill was to England

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Speaker 2: during the early days of World War Two. You know,

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Speaker 2: it was his strength as it was Churchill, strength to

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Speaker 2: face really long odds and yet at the end prevail.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that historically, I'm totally over the moon

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Speaker 2: when I analogize Prime Minister net Yahoo to Prime Minister Churchill.

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Speaker 7: So so I'll say the following. You know, we look at

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Speaker 7: where Israel was right after Oaktoba seven, the day after

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Speaker 7: Vactoba seven, you know, we've been taken by surprise, we

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Speaker 7: were attacked, we lost many civilians and many three personal

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Speaker 7: and that day, you know, Israel wasn't a very good place.

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Speaker 7: And then look at what we did and what we've

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Speaker 7: been able to achieve over the last two years in

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Speaker 7: terms of our well, you know, regaining the ready terms,

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Speaker 7: regaining Israeli power, making sure that by the end of

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Speaker 7: the day, our enemies are removed from the equation. And

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Speaker 7: you know, let's let's look at the strategic balance now

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Speaker 7: two years after the seven. I think this is that

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Speaker 7: that that calls for a lot of brasilience, but that

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Speaker 7: cause of the whole lot of leadership, and I think

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Speaker 7: we demonstrated exactly that. And it is the combination of

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Speaker 7: that close the height conducted by the Israelityfense force and

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Speaker 7: Israel those Security Agency is bravely fighting over the last

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Speaker 7: two years. So the combination of those two elements and

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Speaker 7: United States leadership, those are the elements that allowed us

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Speaker 7: to be where we are currently extermining at.

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Speaker 2: Last, quick question, is that you're understanding I know there

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Speaker 2: have been some reports tonight that the President of the

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Speaker 2: United States, President Trump, is contemplating going to Egypt for

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Speaker 2: as signing ceremony this weekend. Is that you're understanding that

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Speaker 2: is now being planned.

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Speaker 7: So I can't say anything about the President's plans. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 7: I'm not in the loop of gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very well, let me make it. Let me I'll

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Speaker 2: let you off the hook there. Let me get a

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Speaker 2: couple of phone calls in here people who awfully that'st

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Speaker 2: them to be very brief and u uh make a

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Speaker 2: make a quick comment. Let me go to Jeff uh

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Speaker 2: in Waltham. Jeff, you're on with the Consul General of

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Speaker 2: the State of Israel to New England. Ad.

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Speaker 10: Okay, it's an honor to talk with him. I don't

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Speaker 10: know whether this is a question or a comment, but

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Speaker 10: it's that's called a rhetorical question.

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Speaker 2: Just just make it direct, Jeff. That's all I ask

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Speaker 2: go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 10: From a tactical point of view, what guarantee is there

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Speaker 10: that this so called agreement by a must would not

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Speaker 10: amount to strictly a regrouping tactic.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, but they have to regroup and

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Speaker 2: let's see what.

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Speaker 7: Take that valid Okay? Sure, So, so I would say following,

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Speaker 7: I don't think that there's a you know, one hundred

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Speaker 7: percent guarantee that Hamas will fully implement you know, each

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Speaker 7: side of the deal. Uh, this is terrible organization by

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Speaker 7: the end of the day, a very brutal and globoic onin.

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Speaker 7: But that that highlights two elements. The first one is

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Speaker 7: that all of us collectively responsible clout in this equation

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Speaker 7: should make everyfl in order to make sure that Hamas

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Speaker 7: is under a lot of pressure and you know, maintain

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Speaker 7: and fulfill it's part of the deal by the end

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Speaker 7: of the day. And the other element that I would

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Speaker 7: say is that Israel has not given up on other

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Speaker 7: options as well. We stick with diplomacy, because diplomacy is

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Speaker 7: you know, and has been all along the way our

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Speaker 7: personal past towards solving that that war. That we are

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Speaker 7: we are full there and fully ready to use other

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Speaker 7: means if if the know he's not going to move

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Speaker 7: forward the way to his highlight of the present by

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Speaker 7: the president, and.

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Speaker 2: I think as would understand that as well. And they

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Speaker 2: may be many bad things. I'm not sure suicidal is

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Speaker 2: one of the adjectives that I would have that I

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Speaker 2: would apply to them. Thank you Jeff for your question,

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Speaker 2: really good question to Ben in acted. Ben, you are

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Speaker 2: on with my guest, the Consul General to New England

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Speaker 2: for the State of for the Nation of Israel, Benny

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Speaker 2: SHARONI go.

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Speaker 9: Right ahead, then, good evening, Council General shoremy Hawks Samaha or.

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Speaker 7: Some quick question.

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Speaker 9: We were in Israel back in April visiting family and Papa.

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Speaker 9: We were in Tel Aviv. We went up north and

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Speaker 9: we visited a Gamla. One of the things that we

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Speaker 9: heard from family and friends was rebuilding up north and

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Speaker 9: communities like carry out Schmona. What is the plan moving

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Speaker 9: forward now with hopefully the end of the ward the

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Speaker 9: Milhama and asa, But what's is the plan to help

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Speaker 9: with build communities in the north and along the envelope. Otherwise,

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Speaker 9: we're thankful to see family and friends being reunited and

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Speaker 9: hopefully that's coming Saturday.

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Speaker 7: You know, in hostage.

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Speaker 9: Square, there will be even more celebrations. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you for putting that question. So, you know,

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Speaker 7: the first thing that we needed to do is to

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Speaker 7: make sure that the military thread him coming from from

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Speaker 7: Chrisbala and Lebanon two words, is running off because we

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Speaker 7: moved and then we I think successfully took care of

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Speaker 7: that last year. So that was the first step. The

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Speaker 7: second step which is already happening and you know, taking

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Speaker 7: place over the last couple of months, there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of orchestrated governmental efforts, including putting budget into the prolonged

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Speaker 7: process of reconstruction, as well as north the vast majority

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Speaker 7: of the citizens to do many of the towns and

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Speaker 7: really went back, not all of them, but the vast

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Speaker 7: majority are already back. Kiachmana is slightly more complicated. It's

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Speaker 7: a big city that had challenges even before the war,

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Speaker 7: and those challenges, those challenges became even most of you

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Speaker 7: with the effect of of the world over the last

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Speaker 7: few years. So the good news is that there is

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Speaker 7: a lot of thinking taking place back in Israel nowadays

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Speaker 7: about that and including relocating governmental funds in other to pay,

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Speaker 7: but it's going to take some time. It's it's a

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Speaker 7: lengthy process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been quite a process in of itself.

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Speaker 2: Console General, as always, thank you for being available and

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Speaker 2: to talk with my audience. Everything you've said tonight has

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Speaker 2: been very reassuring and let us hope and pray, of

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Speaker 2: whatever our religious background, that peace will take hold in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East and we will talk again, I'm certain

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Speaker 2: in the next uh with probably sooner than later, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully it'll be a positive, another positive conversation.

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Speaker 7: It's always a pleasure to be a guest at your

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Speaker 7: show and looking forward for future opportunities. Thank you very

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Speaker 7: much and thank you for the audience and the listeners absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Bennys Erroni the Consul General of Israel to New England.

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Speaker 2: When we get back, we have the WBZ car guys

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Speaker 2: are going to lighten it up a little bit. All

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Speaker 2: of your automotive questions will be answered by Larry and

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Speaker 2: Scott here on night side right after the ten o'clock news.

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Speaker 2: The Bruins won in overtime, by the way, just a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes ago there too, and zero