WEBVTT - 10-14-25 Bill Cunningham Show 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.040 Billy cunning him the Great America. Welcome this Tuesday afternon 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.799 the Triesteate. Great things are going on, I hope, and 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.120 I've done some copious research. When the Bengals went to 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.079 the super Bowl at the nine games, they were five 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.600 and four, went to the super Bowl. Right now they're 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.840 two and four. But if and when they beat the 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.400 Steelers on Thursday, there's three and four, then at home 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.680 against the Jester, four and four. Then the Bears at 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.720 home they're five and four with Joe Flacco leading the away. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:30.240 With Ted McKay. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.879 So if the Bengals are five and four, they're going 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.000 to the super Bowl because the Bills aren't that good 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.760 and Kansas City can be beaten, I think. But until then, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.440 we have major problems in River City. And once again 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:46.160 there's massive shootouts on Fountain Square headline on Channel five 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.879 last night. Five people shot in less than eight hours 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:53.080 across Cincinnati Hambleton County, And of course Shari Poelo had 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.680 the story with the Power of five and Shari Poelo, 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.680 welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Shari, 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.480 I want to ask you some fundamental questions. Are you 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:06.760 prepared for some questions I think so ten or fifteen 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.440 years ago. You might recall memories go back that long 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.720 that my wife was on Common Police Court bench and 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.399 she would receive messages at eight o'clock emails from the 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.039 Sheriff's office saying we're accepting no prisoners today, and every 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.720 Common Police Court judgementicipal court judge in Hemlinic County would 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.679 get an eight o'clock wake up call saying, don't sentence 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.840 anybody to the jail were packed, and so the next 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.120 day the same thing would go on. 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.440 The next day, the same thing would go on. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.520 And so side Lease and Joe Deeters put together a 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.800 proposal for the voters to decide whether to build a 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.040 second Hamley County jail, to put another thousand beds in 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.280 Hamlty County because of the criminal activity that was going on, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.759 and it was voted down fifty three to forty seven. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.600 The people said, we don't want to, we don't want 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.400 to spend I don't know it was like eighty million 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.320 dollars to build a second Hemlic County jail. So the 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.800 resolution to that was quit arresting people. Here we are 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.720 ten to fifteen years later, and guess what, According to 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.080 Judge Josh Berkowitz, the presiding judge and heimin County Municipal Court. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.160 There's four hundred empty beds in the Hammer County jail 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.760 as I speak, four hundred beds are empty. So you 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.040 can only imagine if we would have built another thousand 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.519 beds somewhere in Queensgate, we'd have fourteen hundred empty beds. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.840 Now, the question is this, is there's so. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.760 Little crime in the city of Cincinnati happening now that 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.560 all of a sudden the criminal element, which ages out 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.480 about the age of thirty, have quit committing crimes. That 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.320 somehow there's not shootouts, somehow there's not car breakings, somehow 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.840 there's not warns out for arrest. Suddenly, all of a sudden, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.080 forty percent of the so called criminal populace, whoever they are, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.680 have quit committing crimes. Or is it a case of 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.919 city police not arresting judges, no cash bonds, and a 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.480 permissive restorative justice attitude, Which is it shri palelo, as 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.959 all of a sudden, we're now crime free in Cincinnati? 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:50.200 Is that what's going on? 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.440 Sadly, I think you and I both know the answer that, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.920 and I remember what you're talking about. I remember sitting 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.920 in and interviewing Siweez about this issue and him wanting 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.560 to build another jail, and of course that's not popular 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.520 and glamorous. Nobody wants to spend you know, city and 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.720 county dollars on that. But of course that's not the case, 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.560 and we're seeing it night in and night out. You know, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.320 I definitely think it's unfortunately become and we hear it 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.959 all the time, a revolving door where you get these 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.040 people who many of them, I can't tell you how 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.480 many times. Even the victims who we put on the 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.720 news who are shot and killed typically or stabbed to death, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.639 the victims' pictures that we get are month shots because 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:40.160 they oftentimes are involved in criminal activity. And so unfortunately, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.120 again we talk about, well, okay, do we need more 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.480 police officers, do we need the state to help to 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.400 help out? Let me let me just for the people 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.400 who don't follow this as closely as you do, and 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.720 I do really, Let me just take people back in 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.520 the last week, six days ago, so a week ago today, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.800 we had a guy shot in the finger of the hand. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.520 He was in a car, gotten some sort of argument. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.360 He was shot right near Fountain Square, right there at Walnut. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.120 This is during rush hour. People were literally running because 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.880 they're leaving work, walking around Fountain Square hearing gunshots and 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.440 they're running to their cars or running back into work. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.960 Here we are a week later, last night, seven point 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.440 thirty City Bird Fountain Square again before the sun goes down. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:24.680 It is packed. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.960 There are people in restaurants. This is literally right across 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.880 the street from Jeff Ruby's, right next door to other 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.840 restaurants that are filled with people getting something to eat. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.040 And these guys again, let's see a sixteen to seventeen 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.240 year old grazed by a bullet at an adult shot 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.800 in the thigh. Two people we know are in custody. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.480 But let me just tell you there were two officers 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.240 nearby on Fountain Square. There were two excuse me, there 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.000 were two on Fountain Square, two more nearby and other 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.680 officers at Government Square. So to sit there last night, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.800 they were where are the police? Well, the police were there. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.000 They responded immediately. In fact, thank goodness, they were there 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.880 because they were able to track down two people who 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.640 they think were involved in are now in custody. But 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.120 that's just last night. One incident. We had a shooting 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.000 in Westwood an hour earlier, one person died. Still waiting 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:17.600 on the information about the victims specifically right now they're 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.520 searching for a car that they think is connected to 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.599 Blue Tesla. Then they're late last night West End, eleven 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.360 year old young guy shot in the leg at an 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.400 apartment ends up running to a fire station for help. Overnight, 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.039 we have a guy arrives at Mercy Health along Queen City. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.240 He was shot, expected to survive. So, just as you 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.760 said in the last in eight hours across the Hamilton 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.480 County we had five people shot. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.600 Two of them. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.520 If you count the one grade was at Fountain Square. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.960 But then we had the same thing happened nearby at 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.360 Fountain Square a week earlier. The chief is out there 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.279 last night. She's, of course saying all of the right things. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.320 We can't tolerate this. We've got a statement from the mayor. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.720 I mean, but again, here's what it is, Lilli, and you, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.839 I think hit the nail on the head. There has 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.960 to be more of a deterrent. It's like when you 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.440 parent kids. And I remember years ago when I had 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.919 one of my boys was kind of hanging with the 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.400 row the crowd, and you know, I would say, if 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.520 you get in trouble. You're you know, if you do this, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.320 you're going to get in trouble. If you do this, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:19.960 you're going to get in trouble. And I wasn't really 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.200 following through. And then finally I dropped the hammer, right. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.839 I called every parent who I thought their kid was 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.560 involved and said, listen, this happened on my watch. It's 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.880 my son's, you know, responsibility, it's my responsibility. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:32.599 Guess what. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.279 All of his friends were suddenly mad at him, alienated him. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.760 We never had a problem again. But leading up to it, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.159 I was being soft. I didn't want him to you know, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.240 I didn't want his friends to be mad at him. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.720 I didn't want to be the bad guy, right, And 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.719 I liken it to what we're seeing right now. If 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.719 right now, by the way, and I don't know if 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.120 you've talked about this on your show. Back in I 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.320 think it was May the House passed a Repeat Offender Act. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:03.680 It specifically in Ohio, targets people with prior violent felonies. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.240 It would increase prison term for any violent offender who 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.880 has a gun after some sort of previous felony conviction. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:13.280 Well, where is it. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.280 It's sitting in the Senate right now. I mean that 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.480 those are the people that you have to send a message. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.640 Even if you are involved in a violent crime that 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.120 involves a gun, you're going to go to prison. You're 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.360 not going to sit in the Hamilton County jail for 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.160 one hundred and I don't know eighty days, whatever it is. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.680 Because right now, these gun offenses varied depending on you know, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.920 your criminal history and the offense, and they can range 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.560 anywhere from a misdemeanor to a felony. So that's the problem. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:46.240 I mean, we unfortunately have people who continue to commit crimes, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.280 who are back out on the street immediately. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.360 In fact, the chiefs of police in Hamilty County got 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.280 together about a month ago and said, we can't stand 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.200 this anymore because we send people down in the justice center, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.360 they're out on no cash bonds, they're out committing more crimes. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.320 Before the paperwork is done, the criminal is out. Secondly, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.680 the mayor about a month ago had a big powwow 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.680 with the governor and the FBI. The CIA was there, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.280 the ATF, the US Marshal Service, Prosecutor's Office, sheriff for 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.600 everybody was there. We're going to bring in bringing the 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.880 adults to help us so that we have availability of 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.720 our cops to do more serious policing. And immediately Mayor 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.040 iris Roli said that's not going to fly. She wasn't 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.680 present for it. Scottie Johnson wasn't present for it. Lemon 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.440 Kearney wasn't present for it, and they quickly told the 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.000 mayor this is not gonna fly. In fact, lemon Kearney 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.559 device mayor held news conferences saying we don't need these 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.200 people here, and so the highway Patrol being here with 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.080 all the state resources, was told not to come. The 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.120 agreement says two ships a month, and ken Kober says 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.560 they haven't arrived yet because the Mayor's not calling them 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.480 and Mayor iris Roly doesn't want it. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.320 And so when there's no. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.559 Recognition that we don't need outside help, we got this. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.200 When they don't have this, where do you go with that? 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.040 Well, exactly, and honestly, that was a huge dog and 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.559 povie show. I think we all were like, Okay, this 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.360 is showing some sort of improvement. We're all going to 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.520 work together, We're going to get this help. We're going 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.000 to be partnering up with with the FEDS, with our 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.960 UH with with marshals hopefully they were saying they were 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.720 going to be apprehending violent offenders. We're talking about people 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.080 who are violating role post release. They're going to be 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.000 you know, watching by air aerial supervision. But to be 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.840 honest with you, Willie, then I heard when I looked 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.280 closer at the agreement and we saw, oh what would 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.360 be it said quote no more than two times a month. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.360 And as you said, I haven't heard of one time 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.480 us working with them. And we had this huge news 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.680 conference where it all you know, I mean, the news 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.240 conference went on for well over an hour. It was, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.040 you know, everybody and their brother was there talking about this, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.400 how we're going to be walking together, working together. I've 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.400 yet to hear anything about that. And again, but if 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.520 you do that, the whole point of that was, Okay, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.880 if we bring in the FED, if we actually start 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.640 charging some of these repeat offenders with federal charges instead 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.840 of just state and local charges, then we're really going 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.360 to lock them up and send them to prison. But 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.439 guess what, Really, this is such a broader issue. I've 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:16.120 done so many stories on even our prisons releasing these 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:21.559 violent by I'm talking murderers and repeat offenders, violent offenders. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.520 We get money if we keep people here locally, so 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.480 if we don't send him to the state prison. I mean, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.280 it's such a cycle, an endless cycle, that we're not addressing. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.480 Well, it's not only the mayor not having sufficient police resources. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.640 It's not only the mayor not accepting state help. Not 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.960 only the mayor, the whole system. I look at Patrick 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.680 Herringer and what they did with that to with Mordecai 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.680 Blacks say he was released and then he butchers Patrick 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.320 Herringer and Sarah is now and then Sarah was arrested 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:52.319 for eight hours. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.000 I still have an explanation. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.440 How you arrest Sarah Herringer, put her in handcuffs leader 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.440 outside the bloody our home of our bloody's husband. Body 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.760 is lying in locker roup for eight hours. I have 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.000 no idea. And then common police court judges collapse, the 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:10.280 probation system in the outside of the city of Cincinnati 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:11.760 collapse that system. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.199 And it's not just the. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.920 Mayorf to have pureval or Mayor Irish Rolli, whoever's in charge. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.000 It's the idea that Judge Kerry Bloom and Juvenile Court 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.720 so far this year has bound over one felony is 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.640 their sixteen and seventeen year old gang bangers with guns, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.080 hurting people, shooting people. One time has gone to common 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.480 police court. It used to be a pipeline. If you 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.959 use a gun and you're sixteen or seventeen, adult crime, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.160 adult crime. That problem needs to be fixed. And we 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.360 have an election coming up in three weeks. I'd be shocked. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.440 I'd be shocked if the voters of Cincinnati said we 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.680 can't take it anymore. And then you live in the 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.600 Mason area. I see Procter and Gamble without making an announcement. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.240 Their employees are telling P and G, we don't want 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.760 to come downtown, and so they're building a huge facility, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.840 expanding it in Mason, and they're telling employees, if you 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.719 want to work from home, you're going to work from 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.760 home because when you get out of work, you might 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.480 be shot. And so incrementally, slowly downtown's going to hollow out. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.079 Does that concern you? Macy's is gone, They have apartments 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.000 down there now. PNG would be a great apartment building complex. 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:22.199 PNG Corporate America is deciding not to issue a press 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.319 release that's bad for business. But quietly they're going to 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.960 incrementally take jobs away. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.840 And I think Unfortunately a lot of people they don't 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.480 want to hear it in many of our leaders and 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.440 who are trying to do great work down there with 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.000 the Chamber. I mean, look, we're building a brand new 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.920 convention center where we're trying we're going to tell the country, hey, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.319 come here, hold your convention here. Well, if you can't 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.600 go and get food downtown, if you can't walk to 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.440 get a coffee and leave your hotel, and feel like, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.000 it's not going to be like it is in Chicago 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.960 and other cities where you're afraid people aren't going to 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.000 want to come here. And I've said that to so 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.240 many of the leaders who talk to me and are like, sure, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.679 are you really afraid. Here's the truth. I will absolutely 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.960 go down on a Sunday morning for a Bengals game. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.719 Of course I'm going to go to a red Skin. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.480 But I go down and I get out. I truly 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.320 don't go down and go out on a Friday or 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.360 Saturday night. I literally went down two weeks ago. My 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.559 son goes to you, I told you, goes to the 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.440 University of Cincinnati. My older son and he It was parents' 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.200 weekend and some of the parents wanted to get together 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.240 in OTR. I'm not kidding you, And I said, I 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.960 was scared to death to park and walk, you know, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.960 one hundred feet to the bar. And I was, And 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.600 I was even with Mike because I could just you know, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.960 you're you're kind of seeing the you know, people around 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.920 that aren't going into the restaurants or the bars. They're 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.600 just kind of wandering along the street. You feel like 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.520 it's only it's not if, but when you're going to 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.080 be in the wrong place at the wrong time. And 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.120 that's the reality. When you have five people shot in 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.040 a matter of eight hours in the heart of our 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.360 city and around our city, why would you want to 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.440 take that chance? And here's the reality. Yes, the reality 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.840 is most of these victims and the suspects are involved 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:18.000 in criminal activity. But the truth is that sometimes when 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:22.480 it's happening at Fountain Square in places with innocent people 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.800 can take a stray bullet. We've seen it happen innocent 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.400 kids who are playing in parks, and we have these 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.160 drive by shooting that happened all summer long. I mean, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.200 it is absolutely heartbreaking to me as somebody who loves 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.400 this city and is so proud of the Queen City 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.240 and I've said this before, Willie. Twenty three years ago 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.000 when I came from Charlotte. I remember my police officer 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.920 friends saying to me, why in the world would you 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.600 want to live in Cincinnati. And we really created change here, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.400 and unfortunately it feels like we're going backwards. We have 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.320 to be tough, and I think every parent who loses 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.720 a child, even if their child is in their twenties 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.840 and involved in crime, they too want to see changed. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.160 You know, one thing I've noticed, the convention Center is 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.920 opening up. I think at the end of the year. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.720 I think December January. I might be wrong, but in 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.400 the next few months, have you seen that the hotel 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.560 come out of the ground. The answer is no, and 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.880 the reason is Marriott is going to operate it. But 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.200 the powers that be three c DC and others have 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.040 to build it and it's not coming out of the 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.040 ground because they cannot get financing. Now can you imagine 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.440 that hotel should be coming out of the ground now, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.360 so when the convention center is open, the conventionaires can 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.720 go into the hotel and guess what, have a great time. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.160 But at this point, as of a week ago, I 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.720 was told by a rather prominent Cincinnatian that they cannot 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.320 get financing, and they can't get financing because the banks 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.440 don't want to do it, and so they want power 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.880 brokers in town to guarantee the loan in case the 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.480 events continue. By the way, the event on July twenty 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.040 sixth happened right at the doorstep of the convention center. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:06.800 Uh. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.000 And and it's it's it's there's a story there as. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.520 To why is the hotel not coming out of the ground, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.320 And the answer is because they can't get financing. Why 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.480 can't they get financing? Well, there's concern now if that 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.240 happens and we have this great convention center and two 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.640 of two big conventions have already canceled because the hotel 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.840 is not available. That hotel is going to take what 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.080 two years to build? And Uh, that's a problem. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.120 Is that a problem? That is a huge problem. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.680 And the problem there's a story find out why the 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.120 convention center hotel is not being built. And right now 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.200 it's a it's a dirt parking lot. And they wanted 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.280 to start this thing a year ago when the convention 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.120 center is being built. But the Chamber and others are 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.760 trying to get financing. They can't get financing. Now that's 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:59.800 a problem. So I don't know, Cherie. We've laid upon 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.080 the table some necessary information is up to the powers 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.439 that be to correct this thing and do something in 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.960 the city. But right now the mayor's gone from this 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:13.480 is wrong to this is unacceptable. Now it's intolerable. We're 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.720 gone from wrong unacceptable now intolerable. What's the next five syllables? 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.840 Get the the sarcees out and find out what the 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:20.560 hell's next. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.480 Well, something has to be done, and you can't keep saying, okay, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.040 put more officers on the streets. Well again, I would 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.320 argue that last night it appears as if you were 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:35.120 officers right there. But when when people think the answer 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.879 is pulling out a gun, I mean we see it 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.640 time in and time out. That's the problem. If you're 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.960 not afraid that if oh my god, I get caught 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.080 shooting someone, I'm going to be locked up for. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:49.520 Years, not not happy. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.879 You're gonna take your chances. How it starts so young. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.879 We see teenagers, I mean twelve, thirteen, fourteen year old, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.600 and I always go back to what one since officer 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.359 told me last year, He's like, sree, your definition of 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.280 a kid in my definition of the kids are very different, 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.639 you know, getting trained. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.119 Young young and because they know the juvenile court system 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.280 here will not lock them up. Surrey up against the clock, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.120 you know, and that works. But try to find out 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.679 what happened to the hotel, this beautiful hotel next to 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.280 the convention center. That is that is that is nothing 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.400 And we got to run Serik, get my best. All 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.080 the folks Calvert now call her find out all right, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.679 thank you, thank you, Sari pillother, thank you. Up against 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.600 the clock. But River City we got a major problem. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:35.480 Seven hundred WLW. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.680 Well, you know, here we go again with our mayor. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:45.960 Irish Rowlie and the puppet, the puppet af tab Pirival 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.119 doing what he's told looks off the pages of GQ. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.600 He's a metrosexual, you know. And then we have the 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.640 police department, which is Tomorralize on site is the shootings 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.159 are taking place. And then we have one of the 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.760 juveniles in court this morning is lawyer god bless the 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.560 lawyers in this country claim he wasn't found in possession 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.720 of the gun that was used to shoot out the 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.960 windows of city Bird and the beat goes on. I'm 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.680 looking at a story about a year ago, in which 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.439 the Inquiry story written by the Great Sharon Coolidge and 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.280 Cameron Knight, talk about city council putting two hundred and 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.360 seventy five thousand dollars toward a gun violence reduction program 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:28.200 that attempts to pull quote active firearm offenders unquote away 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.960 from their street life with pay, travel, job training, therapy, 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.480 and more. Part of a sixty five million dollar program. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:38.960 City Council thought it would be wise, under the great 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.040 leadership of Victoria Parks Scottie Johnson a lemon Kearny to 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.359 actually pay armed robbers and gun offenders from getting away 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.320 the life of a crime by paying them one to 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.440 two thousand dollars a month not to commit crime. Deep 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.680 in the story, this reflects that another key point of 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:03.600 the program is transformative travel. I said, what is transformative travel? Well, 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.679 the program says they will pay for trips out of 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.320 Cincinnati to the fellows who, by the way, the fellows 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:13.280 are the arm robbers and gun users a chance to 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.360 get away from the dangers they face in their neighborhoods 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:21.320 and understand there's life in other cities. What so, we're 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:26.760 paying individuals who commit crimes with guns not to commit 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.040 any more crime. And secondly, we'll give you travel vouchers 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.360 to understand the glories of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.880 or maybe Tuscaloosa, Alabama, to watch an Alabama football game, 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.160 handing out this information. In fact, one of the programs 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.320 gives tickets to REGs and Bengals games to offenders who 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.920