1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: for a three way or cheese cony Today. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Feeling good, It's Skyline Time. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirtie Cincinnati Sports Station, the. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: Latest edition of Cincy three sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 3: Sports Station, a service of our good friends at Skyline Chile, 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: and anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it is always 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: Skyline Time. Welcome along, Thanks for joining us. We've got 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 3: three hours of sports conversation happening starting right now. It'll 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: include your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine, 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty throughout the afternoon. We will also get to 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: your talkbacks. In our number two. We are joined by 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: our good friend from Fox nineteen, Joe Danaman. At one 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: o'clock we will have some Scott Sadderfield audio. Yes, the 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 3: head coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats speaking right now from 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: the indoor practice facility. An update on the off season 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: from the head ball coach of the University of Cincinnati Bearcats. 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: We'll check in there. Charlie Goldsmith had some really good 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: audio clip with Hunter Green that we're gonna dive into 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: today to talk about the ace of the staff for 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds. I'll ask Nick Castiano's question because why not? 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: Because Nick Castianos, you know, had that moment here in Cincinnati. 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: He was an all star, He ran over who's the 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: guy for Saint Louis who had a big picture outside 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: of Great American Ballpark. Really set a tone for this organization. 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Nick Castianos and the Phillies are gonna part ways at 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: some point this week via a trade, or he's going 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: to be released and be a free agent to sign 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: anywhere else. Does it make any sense to get Nick 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: Castianos on board in Cincinnati? Austin and I will discuss 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: that as we go here and talks in baseball and 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: hour number one. Also today, we'll keep you updated with 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: what's going on in Milan. We'll get you updated on 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: the Olympics right now, just a few moments away team 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: USA Mixed doubles curling. They're already guaranteed their first ever 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: Olympic medal. The question is will it be gold or 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: will it be silver? That's the question right now. Also 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: while we're on air today, we'll get that and at 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: two o'clock. USA VERSUS Canada women's hockey happening today, So 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: we'll get that and we'll update you throughout the afternoon 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: on the updated medal counts from the Olympic Games as well. 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown tight end David and Joku will no longer 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: be a Cleveland Brown. Oh, Cleveland, Yeah Brown, Cleveland Brown. Now, 45 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: I think the writing was a little bit on the wall, 46 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: and I believe in Djoku fent spent nine years with 47 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. They drafted a tight end and Harold 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: Fannon who was really good as a rookie, so I'm 49 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: sure the writing was on the wall. David and Joku 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: is a free agent, no longer a Cleveland Brown. 51 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: A pretty decent amount of dead money if I'm not 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: mistaken that the Browns are gonna have to deal with 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: over the next couple of years due to the way 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: his contract is structured. But he made that announcement yesterday, 55 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: which I'm fine with because whenever he was healthy, it 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: felt like he, like every other tight end, would kill 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 4: the Bengals when they put Yeah. 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak is now the head coach officially of the 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders. Boy Clint, so shout out to Clint Kubiak. 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: I also thought it was interesting we talked about Crosby 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: yesterday and the potential to swing big for the Cincinnati Bengals. 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: There is according to reports, Crosby has already told Tom 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: Brady and others that there is not a chance he 64 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: will ever play for that organization again. So it's gonna 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: be somewhere. Mac Crosby, where's that report? 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: Because he was just on Colin Cowhard last week and 67 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: he said he's out on the facility where Raiders. He 68 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: ain't playing there, every talking about how much he loves 69 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: the Raiders. 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: He ain't playing there. 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: He made that report. 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: Well, let me pull it up here in sec Let 73 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: me pull it up. 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: Because you know, I don't trust your relationship with the internet. 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: NBC Sports Mike Florio, that's a pretty good one, all right. 76 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: Said last week, Jay Glazier of Fox made it clear 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: that Raiders defensive end Max Crosby is done with the 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: Raiders now and then. Jason lock Canfora has also added 79 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: a new wrinkle former radio in Baltimore. 80 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: He told Tom Brady will never play for the Raiders again, 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: that's a fact. Told him he'll retire before he ever 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: plays for them again. 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: Interesting, Now, now I don't know if I TRUSTA. 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett said the same thing last year, and we 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: saw how that ended up. 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 4: I was gonna say yeah, but Max Crosby has already 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: got the bag. 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: He has secured said bag. Speaking of NFL news, former 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: Bengal offensive coordinator former Tennessee Titan head coach Brian Callahan 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: will be interviewing for the vacant offensive coordinator position with 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: the New York Football Giants. That's the latest NFL news. 92 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: Offenses that I gadinator or quarterback coach. 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: Oh, it might be the quarterback coach. Sorry, now he's 94 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: been in that role multiple times before. Quarterback coach for 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: Brian Callian. But I'm sure at some point the hunt 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: call in place after what he did here in Cincinnati 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow. How many you. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: Describe call for the Bengals all of them? 99 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: None of them? Okay? How many did call for Tennessee? 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: Too many? 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: Not enough? How would you describe these scenes last night 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: in Charlotte Pistons and the Hornets nine game winning streak? 103 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: How would you describe the fight? 104 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: So I didn't see like I was obviously was not 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 4: watching this game live, but I was doing something and 106 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 4: I get on social media after the fact that people, oh, 107 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: it's a melee in Charlott you know the hornets and 108 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: the pistons of mine. Oh great, yeah, I love this. 109 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: Let's go see what happens. It was not that big 110 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: of adeo. So guy goes up, gets fouled, and then 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: they start jawing with one another and they do that 112 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: weird thing the guys do sometimes where they put their 113 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: foreheads up against each other. They're basically kissing one another. Yeah, 114 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: kind of strange. And then the one guy shoves the 115 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 4: other guy in the face to get him out of 116 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: his face, if that makes sense, left hand to nog in, 117 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: get out of my face type of thing. And then 118 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: that just elicits punches being thrown, benches being cleared, guys 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: all over the place. I think four players got ejected 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: as as a whole. Two of them came off the bench. Yeah, 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: now that's the big no. No, yeah, you can't be. 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: The NBA cracks down on that. It was Isaiah Stewart 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: who came off the Detroit bench and went right at 124 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: Michel Bridges and he was thrown was throwing what I 125 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: thought was funny in a sense as well. Austin as 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: Isaiah Stewart had like the he already he had the 127 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: ice wraps on the knees. 128 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's. 129 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: Chasing down bridges and like the raps are falling off 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: his knees as he runs out there. I believe as 131 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: he was going off the court, he yelled, why'd you 132 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: draft him? Draft me in Detroit if you didn't want 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: me to do that? So maybe he's trying to bring 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: a sense of toughness to that Pistons team. Kind of 135 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: the thirty nine and thirteen. 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: Bill Lambier ain't walking through that door, right, Somebody's got 137 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: to do it. 138 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: The thirty nine and thirteen Detroit Pistons. 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: Bill Lambier stunk. By the way, those guys, we're gonna 140 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: talk about some bad people. Wow, bad boy Pistons. Isaiah Thomas, 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: that guy is insufferable. Wow, all those guys were insufferable. 142 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: I thought Isaiah Thomas was one of the uh, the 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: gentleman that came across after the last Dance series as 144 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: as weak. 145 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that said a lot. Yeah, and I'm 146 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: sure you know because Michael produced that whole thing that 147 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: was by design smart, but you know it's smart hard 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: to disagree with those allegations. 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: College basketball last night and then Austin, there was one 150 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: one remaining undefeated team in college basketball, and they just 151 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: happened to reside in Oxford, Ohio. Travis Steele's Miami RedHawks 152 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: the lone unbeaten after Kansas last night without Darren Peterson, 153 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: of all people, their star projected number one overall pick, 154 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: Darren Peterson, he didn't go last night because of quote 155 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: flew like symptoms. Kansas at the fog still finds a 156 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: way to be previously undefeated and number one ranked Arizona. 157 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: So Travis Steele and the Miami RedHawks, who are getting 158 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: ready for uh oh u nine o'clock on a Friday 159 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: night on ESBN, the remaining loan unbeaten. Now, before I 160 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: get into the rest of college basketball, have you followed 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: along at all with this Darren Peterson stuff at Kansas. No, 162 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: I don't know who that they are calling him. He's 163 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: the number one overall player, number one overall prospect projected 164 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: to go number one in the draft on a year 165 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: full of star studded freshmen. He's the head of the 166 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: class right now. But he is essentially being remembered as 167 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: the guy who's bringing load management to college basketball. He 168 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: plays like one half, doesn't play the second half. 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 4: Guy from He's from Canton, right down Ohio. Yeah yeah, 170 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: yeah yeah, I remember this now. 171 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: So he's missed half of the games this year for Kansas. 172 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 3: He sat out the second half for no particular reason 173 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: against BYU, and sat out against Number one last night. 174 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: We think he's negotiating, trying to get some I wouldn't 175 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: some extra cheddar, I would think so. But last night Austin, 176 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: there's a video going around this from it was someone 177 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: sitting courtside. I saw this. I don't like this. 178 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: So essentially there's a guy sending a text and then 179 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: someone is video said guy sending a text with what 180 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: he's saying on it and says quote. 181 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: The person sending the text is sitting courtside, like at 182 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 4: the table and someone over his shoulder working at the 183 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: someone over his shoulders recording it, and the text is quote. 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: So he's sick and didn't tell anyone in practice, and 185 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: Bill said, don't half bleep it. If you're gonna play, 186 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: if not, sit out, So Peterson said, ef it, I'm out. 187 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 4: Seems like things are going well in Kansas. Yeah, Kansas 188 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 4: came out and said that the person that was sending 189 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: that text is somebody who's a contracted worker to do 190 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 4: stats and they are not affiliated with the Kansas program. 191 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 4: It said that they are handling it internally. Number one. 192 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: Number one, don't record somebody's test over their shoulder, and 193 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: if you do, certainly don't send it to someone or 194 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: any entity that will post it's because that is lame 195 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: and that is stupid. We all have phones that are 196 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: private conversations and so on and so forth, and that 197 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: sort of thing is just weak, and now it just 198 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: puts him in a bad spot and so on. Like 199 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 4: if that guy was sending out a tweet, it's a 200 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: different story. Yeah, But he's sending a private text to 201 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: whoever he was talking to. I think that is so 202 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: lame that whoever did that recorded it and then posted it. 203 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: It's weak. 204 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: It's weak, And I also think it's probably true because 205 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: you know, you don't just have those type of details, 206 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: you'll just. 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: Make it up right. Other college hoops last night, how 208 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: about the twenty fourth RNGTH Louisville Cardinals at home? Last night? 209 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: The NC State Wolfpack came in often they were nine 210 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: and two in the ACC was NC State. 211 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: What are they now? 212 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: Nine and three? 213 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: Beaten like a Grand Canyon mule last night Molly wopped 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: what's his face? At forty five? 215 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, MIKEL. 216 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: Brown Junior, And I think that was just his ode 217 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: to yesterday being forty five days until opening day. 218 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: Well, he had ten threes. He set a ACC freshman 219 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: single game mark with forty five points. That ain't bad. 220 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: The previous high Cooper flag last year forty two points. 221 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: The forty five also Todd Hall of Famer Wes Unselld's 222 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: single game Louisville scoring mark. So big night last night 223 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: for Michael Brown Junior, fifteen and a half point underdogs 224 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: last night or the Xavier Musketeers at Saint John's. It 225 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: took overtime for Saint John's to win the game. We'll 226 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: discuss a little bit more of this game when we 227 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: get into our number three eighty seven eighty two. Trey 228 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: Carroll had another nice game for Xavier, but failed with 229 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 3: the the final shot of the game which could have 230 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: won it, sent it overtime, and then Trey Carroll did 231 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: not get a shot off in overtime as Rick Patino 232 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: gets both games against Richard Patino. This go around, Xavier 233 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: played him really well. The difference of this game, and 234 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: we'll discuss this in more detail as we go. The 235 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: free throw line Xavier nine of seventeen from the foul line. 236 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: How about this Austin Saint John's twenty eight to forty one. 237 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: That's a bit of a difference. 238 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: Forty one to seventeen attempts, twenty eight to nine made 239 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: field goals, that's nineteen points left on the board. Also, also, 240 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: three Xavior Musketeer players fouled out in overtime, so it 241 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: did not go the way of the Muskies last night. 242 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: They will regroup. They take on Marquette at the Centas 243 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: Center on Saturday night Tonight, Purdue Nebraska, pair of top 244 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: fifteen teams. Purdue travels to Nebraska for that one. And Oh, Bidiaco, 245 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: he got denied this cat from Alabama, Charles Bidioco, his 246 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: career is over again after an Alabama Circuit judge denied 247 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: his motion for a preliminary injunction ending the Center season 248 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 3: for the Alabama Crimson Tide. That's where we stand right now. 249 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: You see, they travel to Kansas State. That's a nine 250 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: pm start tomorrow night. We'll spend more on college hoops 251 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: in our number three. As I mentioned earlier, Scott Saderfield 252 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: given a press conference today. We'll play you some of that. 253 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: In our number three. We'll update the Olympics. But when 254 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: we come back, let's start with Major League Baseball. I 255 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: want to talk a little bit about Hunter Green because somehow, 256 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: some way, Austin it still feels like we're not talking 257 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: about hunter Green enough. We'll talk about hunter Green, and 258 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: I will talk about Nick Castianos, and we'll see what 259 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: Austin has to say about that as well. We'll take 260 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: your phone calls along the way. Five one, three, seven, 261 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: four nine, fifteen thirty thanks to our friends at Skyline 262 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: Chile on the ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 263 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 264 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: Here we go, first Solid one at TGL history. 265 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: Neil Shipley, the Unbridled Joy, the twenty five year old 266 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: on the one hundred and ten yard par three in 267 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: the TGL. Now, if you don't follow along in the 268 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: off season, the TGL is the Golf League, and I 269 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: believe it's down in Florida. It's this unbelievable indoor facility 270 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: where you hit into a huge, huge screen. It's kind 271 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: of like mixing real golf with golden tea golf, if 272 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: that makes sense. They have an actual green there, so 273 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: once you get on the green, you go ahead and 274 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: you actually put on the green. You can hit out 275 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: of the rough, you can hit out of the bunker, 276 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: different things. It's really fun to watch. They get really 277 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: good crowds there. But Neil Shipley last night made history 278 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: with the first hole in one in the TGL. That 279 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: is our wind Schulers call of the day, thanks to 280 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: our friends at wind Schulders. And they're four fantastic cheese spreads. 281 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: Maybe you're getting together to host an Olympic party this weekend. 282 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: You might remember Neil Shipley went on that run at 283 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: Augusta a couple of years ago as the low amateur, 284 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: not Jordan, and then had that iconic meme looking at 285 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: himself on TV. 286 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: We're talking about Neil Shipley. 287 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: In the Did I say Jordan? 288 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: No? 289 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: I said, Anyways, he's Ohio state guy too, Neil Shipley. 290 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: I saw a post the other day. I meant to 291 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: bring this up to you. Somebody said would you rather 292 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: get a hole in one? 293 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 294 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: On the sixteenth at the waist manage gosh or bogie 295 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: at the sixteenth at Augusta National hole in one at 296 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: the waste manager, no doubt about it, yep. But if 297 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: you bogie the sixteenth at Augusta, Nashal, I mean that 298 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: means you played around there. Yeah, but you'll take the 299 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: hole in one over there. 300 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 6: Now. 301 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: I will never have iconic holes. I'll never have a 302 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: chance to play at Augusta. Oh, it's just not going to happen. 303 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: You kind of. You get to a certain point in 304 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: life and you you put things and you have a realization. 305 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: You never know. 306 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm at the realization I'm not going to be at Augusta. 307 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: But you don't know that. 308 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: I'm almost forty, and I've played a lot of golf. 309 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: Almost forty, eating McDonald's, drinking again today. 310 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: And at times, at times I play good golf, single 311 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: digit handicap. I I would take the hole in one, 312 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: I get it. I would take the hole on one. 313 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: At this point, Fair. 314 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: Hunter Green Charlie Goldsmith is already all over the coverage 315 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: at uh spring training with pitchers and catchers reporting. And 316 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: if you remember Hunter Green, he's got the whiteboard he 317 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: posted this last year. And if you remember twenty twenty five. Now, 318 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: can you fact check this for me, Austin, You're about 319 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: to say, can you just pull up some hundred Green 320 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: stats from twenty twenty five. So here are the goals 321 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: set aside by Hunter Green last year on the whiteboard. 322 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty plus innings. No, he threw one 323 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: hundred and seven Sub three ERA Yes, two point seven 324 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: to six, two hundred plus strikeouts one and thirty two 325 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: All Star. No, first Cy Young Award incorrect. Okay, so 326 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: one of five. 327 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: He only started nineteen games, though, probably if you would 328 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: have been a fully healthy probably would have gotten to 329 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 4: that two hundred strikeout margin and the one hundred and 330 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: eighty innings. 331 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. So those were the goals set aside by h 332 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 3: Hunter Green and Charlie Goldsmith, I believe asked him kind 333 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: of about the goal setting and the white board and 334 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: getting ready for another season. 335 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 4: That's that the same goes. I think approach is different. 336 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 4: I think my mindset is different than the prior years, 337 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: going in different ways on how to execute that and 338 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: get to that accolade. 339 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: But I've been doing whiteboards since I was in middle school, 340 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: so it's always been a visual thing from him. A 341 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: visual learner. 342 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: Have that in my gym, and to be able to 343 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 4: see it and look at it every day, I think 344 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: is important. And it keeps the main thing the main thing. 345 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: Keeping the main thing the main thing, I think that's 346 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: important if you know what I mean. Keeping the main 347 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: thing the main thing is is what Hunter Green says. 348 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: So he says that he wants what he has that 349 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: same goal set in place. If you look at last 350 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: year's stats Austin twenty one pitchers in baseball pitched one 351 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty or more innings, So it's attainable from 352 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: an era point of view, how many pitchers were sub 353 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: three just twelve now. His teammate Andre Rabbo is one 354 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: of it was as well, the two hundred or more 355 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: strikeout plateau that was hit by eleven Major League Baseball pitchers. 356 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: Yoshinobu Yamamodo had two to one, so did Sonny Gray. 357 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: Last year, Garrett Crochet let all of baseball with two 358 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five strikeouts, And then of course we 359 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: know that he did not win the Cy Young and 360 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: was not an All Star. So if you are Hunter Green, 361 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: and these are the goals you're setting aside for yourself 362 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: I know you want to win every one of them. 363 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: How many of those five are attainable? In you're in 364 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: your opinion for Hunter Green, Let's assume that he stays 365 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: healthy all of them. I mean, I mean we always 366 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: talk about ceilings, right, you think that's Hunter Green ceiling 367 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: to go five for five. 368 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's that good. Now, it's going to 369 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: be difficult to pitch against or go up against the 370 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 4: guy like Paul Skeens for the cy Young just because 371 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: of the dominance that he has. That was my only 372 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 4: yuh if Otani returns. Who's to say that that's not 373 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: possible for him? I mean Yamamoto, the way that he 374 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: performed in the postseason, Like there's a lot of really 375 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: good starting pitchers in the National League. That's not going 376 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: to be easy. But if he maximizes his talent the 377 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: way that we expect him to, if he can get 378 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: over that one hundred and eighty inning plateau, then yeah, 379 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: I think the sky is the limit for Hunter. I 380 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 4: think the story around him, unfortunately, is always going to 381 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: be his availability exactly. You look at the course of 382 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: his career, He's never pitched over one hundred and fifty 383 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: and two thirds innings and the one time he did 384 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, he threw one hundred and fifty 385 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: and a third innings. He was an All Star, hit 386 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 4: a two point seventy five era, he struck out one 387 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty nine batters. I mean, the dude was filthy. 388 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: But he missed time. That season only started in twenty 389 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: six games. He's never started more than twenty six games 390 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: in his career in a season. That's the story unfortunately 391 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: with Hunter and he has to get better at that. 392 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: See my initial thoughts that I think four of these 393 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: are attainable. But yeah, I mean there was a point 394 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: last year Austin with Hunter Green where he was in 395 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 3: the early season running where people were talking about him 396 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: as a cy young candidate. I mean that was a 397 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: legitimate conversation that was being had with with Hunter Green. 398 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: The to me, it starts at the innings because the 399 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: more innings you can pitch, the more opportunities for strikeouts 400 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: and All Stars. And again the sub three era I 401 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: think is interesting because I think Hunter Green has asked 402 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: to pitch in a lot of high leverage situations just 403 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: based on where the offense has been. But the only 404 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: thing that I look at on that list and say, well, 405 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: that's going to be a tall task, is the cy 406 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: Young Just based on the guys you outlined, Paul Skins, 407 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: Sho hey Otani Yoshi, Nobu Yamamoto, That that, to me 408 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: makes the cy Young conversation a little bit tough. But 409 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: if he's throwing over one hundred and eighty innings, he's 410 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 3: going to put himself in the the realm, in the 411 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: ballpark of the cy Young conversation, I would think. 412 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: I mean, even in twenty twenty four when he pitched 413 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty innings, he finished eighth in the 414 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 4: cy Young. Yeah, so I don't think it's crazy. I 415 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: really don't for him to be right there in that conversation. 416 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: And who knows what if an injury happens to Paul Skins. Sure, 417 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: you know, then it could be anybody's award. What if 418 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: you got two guys that finish in the top ten 419 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: or the top five with Hunter Green and Andrew Abbott. 420 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: But I just like it. Everybody wants to believe in Hunter. 421 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: I think for the most part, people like Hunter. I know, 422 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: and I've said he's my favorite red. But it's just 423 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: the unfortunate part of his story is can he pitch 424 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: that much? I mean, even if you go to Baseball 425 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: Reference and look at their projections for Hunter Green in 426 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, they have him pitching just one hundred 427 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: and twenty nine innings. Yeah, that's not going to cut it. Now. 428 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 4: I don't know what all their projections are based off of, 429 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 4: and I'm sure there are projections out there that are 430 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 4: different and maybe more accurate than what Baseball Reference might have, 431 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: but they have him at a three point three to 432 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: five earned run average, one hundred and twenty nine innings pitched, 433 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: giving up sixteen homers, and striking out one hundred and 434 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 4: forty eight batters. Yeah, that would be a fine season, 435 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: but that would be a disappointment for everybody if those 436 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: were the numbers for Hunter Green in twenty twenty six. 437 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: Yep, good but not great. And I think the bar 438 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: right now for Hunter Green is greatness. And to your point, 439 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: that's what I think is a interest about this team. 440 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: It feels like we don't talk about hunter in that 441 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: stratosphere enough and I feel like somehow, some way, Andrew 442 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: Abbit just kind of flies under the radar. And as 443 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: you mentioned, it's not out of the room for Andrew 444 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: Abbit to be top ten in the Say Young voting. 445 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: I think Abbott has just kind of got this this 446 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: workhorse t of persona about him. Now. He started last 447 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: year banged up, and it took him a little bit 448 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: to get ready to go, and what was it a 449 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 4: month after the season started before he was good to go. 450 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: But you know, for the most part, Abbott has pitched 451 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: until his arm fell off. You think of his rookie year, 452 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: he was unbelievable and ran out of gas at the end. 453 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 4: This past season, he started a little bit late and 454 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: carried them through the stretch. And it's still a shame 455 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: that he didn't get a chance to pitch in the 456 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: NL wild Card round. And so that dude has been available, 457 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: and that dude, it feels like, has a different style 458 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 4: of pitching that maybe people almost puts people to sleep, yep, 459 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 4: because he's just he will he will pitch, he won't 460 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: just throw. And Hunters is more than that as well. 461 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: But his thing is power. He's going to overpower you 462 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: with the fastball. He's got that slider that can be 463 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: really nasty. He's working on that split finger. So the 464 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: styles contrast, where maybe Andrew Abbit will just kind of 465 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 4: Greg Maddox shit of death, whereas Hunter Green is going 466 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 4: to throw it right by you, and that's a little 467 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: bit more of an exciting style. 468 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that their contrast is just is excellent. 469 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes the idea of the 470 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 4: red starting rotation and how far that can take them 471 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 4: this year so exciting. Number One, you've got two lefties 472 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: in there, which can make it really difficult on a 473 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: team over the course of a series, especially if those 474 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: lefties are going back to back. And it's not just 475 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: two lefties, it's two entirely different lefties. You've got Andrew Abbott, who, 476 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 4: as I just outlined, is that you really precise, accurate pitcher. 477 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: And you've got Nicolodolo who's got this long, lanky, a 478 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 4: little bit of wild and he'll throw heat up under 479 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: your chin and then make you look like a fool 480 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: with a slider down in a way that's so hard 481 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 4: to defend and then to hit against. And then oh, 482 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: by the way, here's Chase Burns throwing a hundred. Here's 483 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 4: Hunter Green throwing a hundred. Brady Singer is a complete 484 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 4: pitcher all around. Like that's what makes me so excited 485 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: about their potential, and obviously the you gotta be on 486 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: the field, you gotta play, you gotta make those changes. 487 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: But the potential of this starting rotation carrying them throughout 488 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: the season is that's what makes people believe even if 489 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: the offense takes a little bit of time to get going, 490 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: the pitching can carry them. 491 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's such an excitement and there's such a 492 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 3: build up, and there's you know again, I think the 493 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: We've asked Jim Day, We've asked Charlie, We've asked Joe Daneman, 494 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: what's the ceiling, and it's a top three, top five 495 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 3: ceiling rotation, and all of baseball really feels like that 496 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: is the opportunity, that is the upside that this team possesses. 497 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: Let's take a break, let's come back. Let's steer this 498 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: to the Nick Castianos question and tie in some phone 499 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: calls as well. Five one, three, seven, fifteen thirty. That 500 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: ahead on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 501 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: From the Court to the Cam, the Diamond to the Dome, 502 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: he brings the heat Moegar Today at three pm on 503 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. 504 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: There is an apportant welcome back. It is since e 505 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: three sixty. You're listening on the Home of the Bengals 506 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks here, and I 507 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: remember one to our friends, it's skyline chilly, all right, 508 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: I'll take the bait here, Austin, I'll do it. 509 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: Take the bait, I'll. 510 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: Take the bait. In Philadelphia, rumors and reports are circulating. 511 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a rumor at this point, because 512 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: it's all been confirmed. The Philadelphia Phillies are before Monday 513 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: trying to part ways with Nick Castianos. They are either 514 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: going to do this via trade, and quite frankly, if 515 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: the trade doesn't work, then I just believe Nick Castianos 516 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: is going to be a free agent. 517 00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: Now. 518 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: The issue is for Nick Castianos, and I'm sure any 519 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: trade partners. This is the twenty million dollars he's owed while 520 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: also turning thirty four in early March. If a trade 521 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: were to even be done for Nick Castianos, it is 522 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: believed that the Phillies are gonna have to eat for 523 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: fifteen to eighteen million of that. The other option is 524 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 3: that they released Nick Castianos. He can sign anywhere he wants, 525 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: and the Phillies are on the hook for the full 526 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars that he's guaranteed to make in twenty 527 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: twenty six. Now, Nick Castianos only hit seventeen home runs 528 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: last year. Nick Castianos is an outfield I would say 529 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: below average outfielder who also swings and misses a lot, 530 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: but did bring an energy to the Cincinnati Reds. He 531 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: was fantastic with his time in Cincinnati, a fan favorite. 532 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: This club has talked a lot in the offseason. We've 533 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: heard a lot about making moves to sell tickets and 534 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: put fans in the stands. And I get the logistics 535 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: of it. I get that lineup potentially with Ellie and 536 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: Suarez and Castianos is a heck of a lot of strikeouts. 537 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: But if it's not an everyday position player, I actually 538 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: would be open to Nick Castianos coming back to Cincinnati. 539 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: Where do you stand on that? 540 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: Not interested? Okay, just don't think he fits. I mean, 541 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: I think you fixed that issue when you signed au 542 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: Haanio Suarez like I like Nick Castianos too, But it's 543 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 4: been a few years since he played for the Reds, 544 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: and that player really hasn't returned. In twenty three, he 545 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: hit twenty nine homers, and then twenty three and then 546 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: seventeen a year ago. Listen, I follow enough and see 547 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 4: enough Phillies fans that will tell you Nick Castianos has 548 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: not been a very popular player in that city. His 549 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: batting average has dropped over twenty points since that twenty 550 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: twenty three season. You look at his Baseball Savant page, 551 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: you don't see a lot of red. You see a 552 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: lot of blue. And that's not good. And so as 553 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, like, yeah, great guy, loved having 554 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 4: him when he was the Reds. When he was with 555 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: the Reds, but that was a long time ago, and 556 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: I don't think he can help them now. Okay, I think, 557 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 4: especially when you look at it against left handers last year, 558 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 4: he didn't hit very good against lefties. If you are 559 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: bringing somebody into this ball club right now, you need 560 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: somebody that can hit against left handed pitching, and Nick 561 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: Castianos has not been that guy. 562 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: You say, the roster going to spring training right now, 563 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: and again I wouldn't say in on a starting role, 564 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: but you say, roster wise, what they have at the 565 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: bottom of the road, bottom of the bench is stronger 566 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: or better for this team than Nick Castianos. 567 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so. I mean maybe it's about 568 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 4: the same. Yeah, I mean the season that Will Benson 569 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 4: had last year. I know it wasn't great, but there 570 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: was at least some stuff to build off of, and 571 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 4: you feel like he's us ending instead of descending now. 572 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: I think JJ Bledet had a great season in twenty 573 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: twenty four, struggled and was hurt at times last year. 574 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 4: Dane Myers is more of a defensive replacement, and Mash 575 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: is left handed hitting or left handed pitching. So I 576 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: just look at that, and Casianos can't play the infield anymore. 577 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: Not to mention, you know, his fielding he had, I 578 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: mean not kidding, one of the worst outs above average 579 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: of any field or in baseball last year at minus twelve. 580 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: So he's a complete liability in the field. There's just 581 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: nowhere for him to go, especially when you've got two 582 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: guys in South Stewart and Ajohanho Suarez who are probably 583 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: gonna take up most of your dch at bats. 584 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I am again, I I'm not closed 585 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: off to the fact I think that if it were 586 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: a situation where you're talking end of the bench type 587 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: of player that doesn't play every day, I could see it. 588 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: But I'm sure that Nick Castianos is going to be 589 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: out there and he's going to get some team that's 590 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: going to say, Okay, well have you come in and 591 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: you're an everyday starter for us? And that's not Norwich, 592 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: nor should it be in my opinion, the Cincinnati Bengal 593 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: or Cincinnati Reds. But would be a fun conversation and 594 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: would make this team certainly certainly very interesting. Yeah. 595 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: I just think we hold on to this guy who 596 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: was here four years ago. Oh absolutely, that was four 597 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: years ago. Absolutely, And that season he had was like 598 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: the best of his career and thirty four homers, drove 599 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: in one hundred runs. He saw He's only done that 600 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: two other times in his career. Yeah, And I think 601 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: maybe he was a product of the ballpark and maybe 602 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: that's reason to bring him in him back. I hear 603 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: what you're saying. I just don't think you're ever gonna 604 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: get that guy back. And I don't know that there's 605 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 4: that much of a difference between the dudes who are 606 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: currently at the end of the bench. Yeah, and what 607 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: neck Nick Castianos might bring. 608 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, to the phone lines, we go, what's up, Mike, 609 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: how are. 610 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 6: You, hey sos who like the baseball talk, thank you 611 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 6: for that. Yeah, we couldn't make it all the way back. 612 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 6: We had to sleep and get a room in Santa 613 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 6: Barbara because it was just we were to so tired. 614 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 6: But I forgot how beautiful Santa Barbara is. What a 615 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: nice place. If you ever get a chance to go 616 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 6: to a man check it out. Proy the ideals small 617 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 6: town in the country in my opinions, speaking of Hunter, well, 618 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 6: we all know what the deal is with Hunter. Can 619 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 6: you get a healthy season out of it or not? 620 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 6: Now that leads me to a theory on the card thrower, 621 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 6: because over the years, there ever't been a lot of 622 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 6: hard throwers that they have real long careers, except for 623 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 6: guys like Clemons maybe Noan Ryan. A lot of them 624 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 6: end up with their surgeries there Tommy Johnson, they come 625 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 6: back to a different picture, and usually a better picture. 626 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 6: So I can't be confident at all. Why why should 627 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 6: I be confident that is gonna not hurt himself Because 628 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 6: he's still gonna keep throwing those hundred over one hour 629 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 6: balls and the majority of his pitches. And I think 630 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 6: it's tough on the kid, on the young man's body, 631 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 6: and I hope not. But now, how can you be 632 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 6: optimistic because the history doesn't allow you to be. 633 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the history. And to me, you know, we've 634 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: talked about this before. There's something to be said about 635 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: pitching high stressful innings all the time, and this team's 636 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: lack of offense in recent years I think has caused 637 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: this pitching staff and a guy like Hunter Green who 638 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: throws hard. You're pitching in such higher leverage situations because 639 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: you feel like you have to be perfect. You feel 640 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: like you can only give up a run to have 641 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: a chance to win a game to times, and I 642 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: think those situations add more stress to the upper body 643 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: in the arm and cause problems as the season, as 644 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: the season wears on. 645 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 6: I couldn't agree more. You know, I heard this the 646 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 6: other day. We had my memory refreshed. You know, probably 647 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 6: the best world's most exciting World Series I've seen was 648 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 6: the year after the Reds won it ninety was the 649 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 6: ninety one series between the Twins and the Breaks. They 650 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 6: both both finished dead last the year before. In ninety 651 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 6: I mean, the Braves were sixty five and ninety seven, 652 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 6: and and that World Series had had five one run 653 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 6: games and three extra inning games. It's known as as 654 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 6: the worst to the best, the worst to the best 655 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 6: or something world series. But that was the most exciting 656 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 6: world series. And it was some two teams that weren't, 657 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 6: you know, around the country highly regarded or not considered, 658 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 6: two dynasties from meeting head to head or anything. Do 659 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 6: you guys remember that ninety one World Series? 660 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: I don't remember, mother, I remember reading up on it, 661 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: but no, and I don't remember much of it. 662 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't alive. 663 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 6: If you ever get to look at some clue us 664 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 6: from it and stuff for just Google, you know, it's 665 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 6: it's really it was a blast, and it just took 666 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 6: everybody by surprise. So they're not going to get anybody 667 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 6: else in right. Flarez was about the deal and now 668 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 6: it's over here. 669 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like it to me. Good. 670 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 6: I wish they could have got a left handed town. 671 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 672 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 6: You just don't know if Elie's gonna do it or not. 673 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 6: You just don't there's the other question. 674 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Ellie, I think so all least so 675 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 3: unique in a sense that you know, we we've had 676 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: conversations of Ellie being in the MVP conversation and then 677 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: there's conversations of kind of what happened to Ellie is 678 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: the season more on last year? So I think those 679 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 3: are are very different comparisons. And obviously fans here are 680 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: hoping for, uh, for the former of competing for an 681 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: m v P, and if so, it changes the trajectory 682 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 3: and the outlook of this season. 683 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 684 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 6: Do you think that that, uh, frankcon Will entertained thoughts 685 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 6: of having the team run a little bit more since 686 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 6: the year before he got here we were that was 687 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 6: a forte I put pressure on the other teams we played. 688 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 6: That's why we had a good year. Yeah. 689 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: He he was at Austin Moon was he asked about 690 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 3: it where he essentially said that his view on on 691 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: aggressiveness on the base pass is running into outs as well. 692 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it was around Red's Fest where he 693 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 4: was like, we just ran into too many outs on 694 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 4: the base pass, and when you don't have an offense, 695 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 4: that's that's uh, you know that great, you can't really 696 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: afford to run into outs on the base pass. So 697 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: it doesn't sound like that philosophy is going to change, unfortunately. 698 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 699 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 6: Would I would prefer them to. That makes total sense 700 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 6: when you hear it on the surface, But don't you 701 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 6: think that other brand of baseball. I think the fans 702 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 6: were much more into it. 703 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: I was. 704 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 3: I thought I thought they were a matchup nightmare because 705 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: of the aggressiveness on the base pass and what it 706 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 3: causes to other teams that you essentially have to be perfect. 707 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 3: I get I get where Terry Francone is coming from, 708 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 3: but I like making an opponent feel uncomfortable and knowing 709 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: that if you get a guy on base, you have 710 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 3: to be perfect. And I just don't think they were 711 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 3: that enough last year. Yeah. 712 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 6: I don't either. All Right, guys, I appreciate it. 713 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 3: Take care, Thanks Mike, Kevin good one. Yeah, we'll have 714 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: to look Austin at the run support for Hunter Green 715 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: last year. I don't think it was good. But the 716 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 3: high leverage innings that were pitched by all the red 717 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: starters because of the lack of offense, that's something we 718 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: talked about. But in today's age, doesn't it feel like 719 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 3: the majority of pitchers Austin are hard throwers? I mean, 720 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: doesn't it feel like most pitchers are hitting ninety seven 721 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: ninety eight. 722 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big part of It's almost. 723 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: Like the Andrew Abbots of the world. Are now the exception, 724 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: whereas years ago you see a guy throwing ninety eight, 725 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: and that's a big difference. You see more of that 726 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 3: now and less of the control pitchers like an Andrew Abbott. 727 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: In this edition of Major League Baseball, we'll take a break, 728 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: we'll finish up this conversation at the other end, and 729 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: then we'll get Joe Danam into the top of our 730 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: number two. Since he three sixty, you're listening here on 731 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 3: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 732 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to Tony Pike sincey three sixty on ESPN 733 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. 734 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back, sincey three sixty. Roll along our number one 735 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends. 736 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 3: It's Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it 737 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: is always Skyline Chili. There are times, Austin we kind 738 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: of look back at times of things that have happened 739 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 3: on this date in Cincinnati sports history. Did you see 740 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 3: what today brings? Two thousand February tenth, two thousand, King 741 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 3: Gurfey Junior officially came home. Do you remember that day 742 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 3: at all? 743 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: I don't I don't. My earliest memories were like late 744 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 4: two thousand. That to me, I mean, I've seen the 745 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 4: clip the five times of all the flash bulbs going 746 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: off at the press conference. 747 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: That to me was one of, in my opinion, the 748 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: coolest days to be a Cincinnati Reds fan because you 749 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 3: didn't know what was ahead. You didn't know the heartbreak 750 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: of the injuries that were gonna come. Because at that 751 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: time you had one of the best players in Major 752 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 3: League Baseball signing in Cincinnati. 753 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 4: I think you could say he was, yeah, the best 754 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 4: player in right here League Baseball. 755 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: And again you were filled with so much hope and 756 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: excitement and optimism. Yeah, we know what came after it. 757 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 4: A guy who had made ten straight All Star Games 758 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 4: up unto that point, had been hitting forty eight, fifty six, 759 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: fifty six, forty nine, forty forty five homers, driving in 760 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty plus runs. It seemed like every 761 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 4: year he was the face of Nike's campaign. Like in 762 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 4: baseball it was Ken Griffy Junior and Bo Jackson, and 763 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 4: in basketball was Michael Jordan. Like they were the top 764 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 4: athletes of the nineties, and the story was so cool 765 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 4: for him to be able to come back, and he 766 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 4: had a really good year in two thousand for the 767 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 4: Reds forty homers, one hundred and eighteen runs batted in. 768 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 4: I remember the seeing the video clips of like it 769 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 4: took him forever to hit his first home run and 770 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 4: then they came in bunches after that. But yeah, I mean, 771 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 4: if you're thinking back to that time, the Reds had 772 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 4: been a decade without a championship, really kind of lacking 773 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: star power, and they pull off a trade and an 774 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 4: extension for the best player in baseball, It's hard to 775 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: fathom that. 776 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 3: It's such a surreal feeling. 777 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 4: That's like if the Reds just pulled off a trade 778 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 4: for Sho Heo Tany that that's the equivalent to h 779 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: It's hard to fathom. I wonder what Joe Daneman remembers 780 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 4: about that day. We're gonna ask him in just a 781 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 4: few moments. He'll join us at the top of our 782 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: number two on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station. 783 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 5: WCKY, Cincinnati, make us the number one preset on your 784 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 5: car radio and on the free new and improved iHeartRadio app. 785 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 3: Free never sounded so good. ESPN fifteen thirty Men