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Speaker 3: All right, my fellow Americans, great to every with me

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Speaker 3: this Sunday night. The next one to three days should

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Speaker 3: be extremely interesting because what the President said this morning,

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Speaker 3: and also the rescue, the the capture of our F

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Speaker 3: fifteen Eagle pilot was really I have some of the

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Speaker 3: a bunch of sources. How this happened, I'm sure like you,

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Speaker 3: when this happened on Friday, it was quickly picked up.

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Speaker 3: The actual pilot of the of the aircraft was picked

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Speaker 3: with that in the United States Senate, the media would

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Speaker 3: and all hell would have broken loose for public relations reasons.

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Speaker 3: But that was as always a great victory and for

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Speaker 4: He's doing what is right.

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Speaker 3: He's doing what every president since nineteen seventy nine said

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Speaker 4: But he did.

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Speaker 3: wrong message, especially on Easter. But nonetheless that's a different viewpoint.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say much bad about Pope Leo.

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Speaker 3: I have a guest coming up on the Pope either

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Speaker 3: next Sunday or the Sunday after that. Let's go back

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Speaker 3: to the calls, continue the calls, and we have great

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Speaker 3: guest schedule later on, especially.

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Speaker 4: On this issue.

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Speaker 3: Plus later on I have Dean Reguez, an astronomer to

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Speaker 3: the stars to talk about Artemis two and where it is.

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Speaker 3: That's in about a couple hours from now. Tho, let's

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Speaker 3: go to the calls. Let's go to Dan and des Moines, Iowa,

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Speaker 3: the home of the Hawkeyes. Dan and Iowa, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the Bill Cunningham Show. And Dan, how are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm good?

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Speaker 6: Bill. Hey, I have just a real quick question, pick

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Speaker 6: your brain. What do you think about whether or not

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Speaker 6: we've considered or maybe we have already considered it and

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Speaker 6: put it off. The airlifting weapons to certain parts of

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Speaker 6: Iran where there may be Iranians who are.

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Speaker 3: According according to news accounts, Donald Trump has sent thousands

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Speaker 3: and thousands of weapons to the Kurds, which is a

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Speaker 3: minority inside of Iran, and that availability is also happening

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Speaker 3: with israelis there. The southern cities of Iran are hundreds

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Speaker 3: of miles from Tehran and I and the goal I'm

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Speaker 3: not making making this up is to take over a

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Speaker 3: few Iranian cities in the south and then monitor the

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Speaker 3: reaction of the Revolutionary Guard through satellites and drone technology

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Speaker 3: to determine what is happening, and then if army units

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Speaker 3: are running toward that city, to obliterate them. And I

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Speaker 3: know that's being done. The Kurds and other minorities in

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Speaker 3: Iran are being armed.

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Speaker 6: Well, I hope it works.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your feeling is like a normal person?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: When the aviator was discovered through bravery in the entire time,

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Speaker 3: when the seat ejection took place, that's when they monitoring began.

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Speaker 3: They knew exactly where he was and the Democratic Party

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Speaker 3: was ready to launch on Donald Trump if Iran would

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Speaker 3: use that as a political trophy, And there was a

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Speaker 3: little bit of air left the balloon this morning on

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Speaker 3: the talk shows when that didn't happen, and they quickly

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Speaker 3: changed talking points to the twenty fifth Amendment. Do you

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Speaker 3: think the Democrats want America to win this war?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit concerned that they're putting too much emphasis on the negatives.

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Speaker 6: And it doesn't help us with the war, that's for sure.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's political, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at at a Gallup poll. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you can rely upon Gallup poles, but it

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Speaker 3: says in this recent Gallup poll this, when the American

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Speaker 3: people are asked, do you want the Democrats to control

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Speaker 3: the Congress, sixty eight percent say no. When you asked

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Speaker 3: the same same question about Republicans, fifty eight percent they know.

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Speaker 3: So it looks as if the American people want neither

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Speaker 3: party to control the Congress, which I thought, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's that's you know, Republicans right now aren't too popular

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Speaker 3: because they're sticking with Principal and the Democrats when you

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Speaker 3: talk out with some of their policies about bringing Puerto

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Speaker 3: Rico and Washington, d C. As a state, open up

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Speaker 3: the southern border, medicaid for all, free spending, and of

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Speaker 3: course go to college if you're illegal.

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Speaker 4: There's no tuition if you if you go.

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Speaker 3: To Iowa illegally, a bide administration would pay for your

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Speaker 3: college and kids go to Iowa State or Iowa and

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Speaker 3: whatever go to Drake.

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Speaker 4: They got to parents got to pay. People don't like that.

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Speaker 3: So the American people don't like Democrats and they don't

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Speaker 3: like Republicans, but they like Democrats less than they like Republicans.

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Speaker 3: And Donald Trump's not too popular right now. He's got

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Speaker 3: an overapproval rating of forty forty five percent, which isn't

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Speaker 3: good in fact, in what in twenty twenty four when

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Speaker 3: he won forty nine percent approval factor, he's down a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Hey, since I got you, Dan, what do

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Speaker 3: you think about the uh? The candas Owens and Tucker

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Speaker 3: Carlson's kind of blaming these conspiracy theories that we have

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Speaker 3: the first president has Jewish grandchildren and that bb nets

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Speaker 3: and yaw who is controlling Donald Trump?

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Speaker 4: Do you buy that? You know?

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure Candace and Tucker are. I'm not sure

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Speaker 6: where they are is right now? There They confused me terribly.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if they're trying to get ratings or what.

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Speaker 4: Well, how about Eric Eric Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Erica Kirk is suffering as any widow would and uh,

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Speaker 3: Candas Owens says that quite loudly, that Erica Kirk is

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Speaker 3: a liar, that she unwinlly participated in the killing of

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Speaker 3: her own husband, and that the turning point us a

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Speaker 3: security team knew he was going to be killed that day,

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Speaker 3: and that Tyler Robinson, the murderer, didn't he was a

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Speaker 3: he was a putts. Uh, he didn't, he wasn't the

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Speaker 3: one doing the shooting. That somehow there was some explosive

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Speaker 3: device put on Charlie Kirk's body that blew him up.

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Speaker 3: And I'm listening, I'm thinking, I thought the grassy nose

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Speaker 3: was a little bit unusual and this to me, But

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Speaker 3: to call Erica Kirk a liar a widow, how does

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Speaker 3: another woman do that?

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Speaker 6: It seems like it's a tension getting problem again. I

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Speaker 6: can't see that happening.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't think so. Thanks for your calling.

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Speaker 3: God bless you. Let's continue with more. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: a Bob in Wisconsin, the home of Luke Fickle, my

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Speaker 3: friend and many others. And Bob, Welcome to the Bill

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Speaker 3: Cunningham Show from Wisconsin. And Bob, how are you hey.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, but I hope you and yours are

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Speaker 5: doing good.

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Speaker 3: Deal happy Easter. I went to Mass Easter vigil. Whenever

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Speaker 3: I go to church, I feel better coming out, Unlike

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Speaker 3: many in the Muslim world. When I come out of Mass,

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Speaker 3: I feel good to my fellow man and a lot

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Speaker 3: of the Muslim world. On Friday night, when they come out,

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Speaker 3: they want to kill a bunch of people. And that's

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Speaker 3: a dangerous place to be in parts of the world.

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Speaker 3: But that the crist has risen. He is my Lord

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Speaker 3: and my savior. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic and I

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Speaker 3: love my faith.

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Speaker 4: Please go ahead, sure words, my man, Sure words. I

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Speaker 4: have a question.

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Speaker 6: For you, and I hope you can explain this to me.

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Speaker 5: It's not a trap question in any way.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 7: I believe that President when he says that they took

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Speaker 7: out the air force over there, most of the radar

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Speaker 7: and stuff, and all of their navy and everything like that.

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Speaker 4: We got our thumb on them.

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Speaker 5: How can they control the street?

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Speaker 4: I mean, our navy is there.

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Speaker 6: Come on, let's just.

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Speaker 3: Well, because there's things like shoulder fired missiles that an

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Speaker 3: Iranian Revolutionary Guard member could come out of a cave

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Speaker 3: or a crevice with a shoulder fired missile and shoot

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Speaker 3: a tanker. They could put certain minds that are very

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Speaker 3: difficult to the size of approximate free and they have

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Speaker 3: magnetic aspects to them, and so you can't. The Straits

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Speaker 3: are hermus which might be now the Straits of Trump.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if someone pops up on her shoulder

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Speaker 3: fired missile and lets it go in the civil context,

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Speaker 3: not too many of those who operate oil tankers want

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Speaker 3: to take that risk. And so right now, according to

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Speaker 3: reporting tonight, the Iranians will open the strait tomorrow, but

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Speaker 3: you have to register with the Iranian government and pay

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Speaker 3: a two million dollars bounty to pass. That gives the

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Speaker 3: Iranians veto power over the strait, and that'll never happen.

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Speaker 3: Our neighbors and friends and our associates, our allies in

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Speaker 3: the Middle East don't want that. The Emirates, for example,

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, they hate the Iranians more than the Jews,

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Speaker 3: and Iranians don't like each other. Parts of Islam completely

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Speaker 3: hate the other part of Islam that she is, and

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Speaker 3: the Suonis is what it's called and ease of those

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Speaker 3: two sects have different kind of aspects where they're angry

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Speaker 3: with each other. Muslims kill more Muslims, and muslim kill

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Speaker 3: Christians or Jews, and so to say to the Iranians,

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Speaker 3: you know what, uh, we're gonna We're gonna pay you

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Speaker 3: two million dollars a tanker, and we will and the

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Speaker 3: Ranians will decide what tankers go through that'll never fly,

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Speaker 3: and we can't guarantee passage until that's more or less done.

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Speaker 3: In the civil context, the operators of some of these

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Speaker 3: oil tankers don't want to go through when one person

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Speaker 3: with a shoulder fired missile could blow up an oil

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Speaker 3: tanker and and have an ecological disaster along with no

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Speaker 3: one's gonna get on the ship. And that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: And so until the Iranian people say we're done, we're

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Speaker 3: not fighting anymore. And if you do it, the Iranian

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Speaker 3: have got the Iranian armies got to patrol their side

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Speaker 3: of the straits or removes to make sure that doesn't happen,

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Speaker 3: and that means they have to complete change of the regime.

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Speaker 3: I got a guest coming up later that says the

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Speaker 3: process is underway in the southern cities. It's happening as

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Speaker 3: we speak tonight. And according to media accounts, the Iranian

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Speaker 3: people kept the Revolutionary Guard from finding the pilot. I'm thinking, well,

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Speaker 3: I wonder if that, well, that's a report. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it's true or not, but I've read it

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Speaker 3: that a White House source that we were the Irani

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Speaker 3: people helped us greatly. It's like, well, maybe something's happening there,

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Speaker 3: you know, Bob, that we don't know about.

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Speaker 4: Maybe. Yeah, Well, thank you Seric, thank you.

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Speaker 3: God, bless you, God, bless with Let's continue with more,

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Speaker 3: Let's continue if the line becomes available. Eight sixty six

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Speaker 3: six four seven seven three three seven, Bill cunning In

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Speaker 3: the Great American with you and all great Americans every

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Speaker 3: Sunday night, Billy cunning In the Great American. And we

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Speaker 3: continue in every stop. We simply continue. I think those

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Speaker 3: weapons being used that have been rumored about for a

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Speaker 3: while against the Iranian military, that we don't know about

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Speaker 3: and maybe a little bit under the radar, but I

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Speaker 3: know they exist. Just talk to the Venezuelan army about that.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what they all hit them. That we

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Speaker 3: have weapons that other countries do not have. That When

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Speaker 3: the aviator, the lieutenant colonel, came out of his F fifteen,

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Speaker 3: his position was known almost instantaneously by the American military,

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Speaker 3: and they got himself into an area a crevass up

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Speaker 3: on a mountain ridge, and that they knew where he was,

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Speaker 3: and they watched him through drone technology and also the satellites.

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Speaker 3: And the bravery and courage of those who went to

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Speaker 3: risk their lives to save him is one of the

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Speaker 3: hallmarks of our military. Leave no one behind. Have a

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Speaker 3: guest coming up later to talk about one issue, and

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Speaker 3: that is, what if the Iranian people themselves, because their

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Speaker 3: gun shy or whatever over time thirty five forty thousand slaughtered,

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Speaker 3: they don't want to fight for their own country. What

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Speaker 3: if they're so beaten down that they understand that if

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Speaker 3: they rise up, they will be killed immediately, if not sooner.

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Speaker 3: I think the Italians are an example of what happened

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Speaker 3: to Benito Mussolini and his wife. They were hung up,

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Speaker 3: strung up, and torn apart, and the Italian people arose.

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Speaker 3: But because of what's happened to them the past forty

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Speaker 3: seven years or so, are the Iranian people themselves ready

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Speaker 3: to fight for their own country the way American patriots

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Speaker 3: did a concord in Lexington, Our lives and our fortune

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: will go towards this country. The patriots who founded our

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Speaker 3: great country risked their lives in so much more. And

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Speaker 3: I wonder if the Irunian people are built from the

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Speaker 3: same cloth.

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Speaker 4: I have my doubts. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to rock. I don't want Vietnam. I

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00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: don't want Afghanistan. You don't want that. I don't want that.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants that. But whenever there's a great success, like

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Speaker 3: this morning with the American aviator being located in return injured,

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Speaker 3: but nonetheless he was located, found and guarded and protected

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Speaker 3: and came back, the Democrats appear to be happy. Senate

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Speaker 3: Democrats are happy when America has failure. They perceive a

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Speaker 3: success as somehow bad for them, and it's an amazing thing.

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Speaker 3: But I wonder, because we thought Iraq and Afghanistan give

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Speaker 3: those individuals the chance. Remember that Afghanistan and Iraq had

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Speaker 3: the thumb and the ink.

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Speaker 4: They voted away we go.

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Speaker 3: George Bush came on with me at the time and said, look,

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Speaker 3: we're going to know if my venture here is successful

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Speaker 3: in about fifteen or twenty years. If if Freedom's flag

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Speaker 3: is planted in Baghdad and it's a functional society, I

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Speaker 3: would have succeeded well. He failed miserably because the Iraqi

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Speaker 3: people failed miserably, and the policies of Dick Cheney and

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Speaker 3: George Bush were so bad. By cleaning out everybody in

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Speaker 3: the Bath Party, there was nobody to run the country.

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Speaker 3: And in Venezuela, Trump's not making that mistake. Let's continue

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Speaker 3: with more. Coming up next will be and Iranian who

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Speaker 3: spent quite a bit of time in an Iranian prison.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to ask Sharan Nerriman whether or not the

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Speaker 3: Iranian people will fight for themselves. Let's continue with more.

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Speaker 3: Bill cunning into Great American Live with You every Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Billy Cunningham, the Great Americans. So much stuff is going

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Speaker 3: on now with Iran. It's really unbelievable. Monday, Monday evening

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Speaker 3: and at Tuesday morning or Wednesday, all hell could break

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Speaker 3: loose or not, depending upon what if the straits or

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Speaker 3: her moves opens or not. According to one report on Reuters,

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Speaker 3: the President Donald Trump is saying that he anticipates the

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Speaker 3: deal it's going to take place. I'd be shocked if

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Speaker 3: one did occur that made any sense to the rest

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Speaker 3: of the world. Iran is run by genocidal, homicidal, suicidal

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Speaker 3: maniacs who have no desire for peace. In fact, they

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Speaker 3: want war. They think death is the is the way

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Speaker 3: to get to heaven. Jona, you and I now is

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Speaker 3: Sharon Nerreman. She's a former political prisoner in Iran. She

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Speaker 3: knows many friends and associates remained behind. And once again,

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Speaker 3: Sharon Nerriman, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. As we

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Speaker 3: sit here, now put yourself, if you can, in the

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Speaker 3: mind and the place of average Iranians. What are they

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Speaker 3: thinking and what do they First of all, what do

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Speaker 3: they know about what's really going on?

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Speaker 4: And second what are their thoughts?

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Speaker 9: Well, unfortunately, I think because the internets are shut down

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Speaker 9: at it's very hard for them to really know the news.

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Speaker 10: What is the real news that is going on.

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Speaker 9: Of course we do have connection, you know, people are

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Speaker 9: able to call us from Iran and they are calling

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Speaker 9: us to ask what is going on and what are

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Speaker 9: the news because the only thing that they're hearing is

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Speaker 9: the manufactured news that the Urnian regime tells them. And

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Speaker 9: unfortunately the satellite also doesn't work as much, so they're

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Speaker 9: not really having the access to the real news. But anyway,

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Speaker 9: what it is happening right now is that I'm sure

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Speaker 9: you know, but the rise of executions in Iran. Since

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Speaker 9: last Monday, up to now, eleven people have been executed

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Speaker 9: in Iran. Six of them were the members of Mosia Regna,

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Speaker 9: the resistance group of opposition in Iran, and the rest

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Speaker 9: were insurgents that they were arrested in January. So imagine

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Speaker 9: that the you know, people with no access to the

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Speaker 9: insurgents and people that have been in prison right now,

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Speaker 9: they have no access to the legal assistance or there

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Speaker 9: is no due process for anything that is happening inside

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Speaker 9: of Iran, and then people are being executed and what

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Speaker 9: this is but people are hearing every day.

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Speaker 10: So what it shows you that the Iranian regime is.

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Speaker 9: Really in in it's more afraid of Iranian people and

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Speaker 9: it's in at war with its own people because they

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Speaker 9: are afraid of the the more protests, and they're afraid

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Speaker 9: that people are going to rise up to them.

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Speaker 4: I understand that.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: I understand that the running people are largely unarmed and

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Speaker 3: they cannot rise up. If there's I don't know, a

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Speaker 3: million Iranian army units soldiers, and if there's two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty thousand Revolutionary Guard, that's a million armed young

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Speaker 3: men that are more than willing to kill their own people.

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Speaker 4: And so explain.

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Speaker 3: I know, we would like to have the Iranian people

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Speaker 3: rise up and take control. How do they do that

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Speaker 3: without weaponry when the regime is willing to kill them

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Speaker 3: thirty forty thousand people?

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Speaker 4: Is that realistic?

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Speaker 9: Well? I think at this point people know that for

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Speaker 9: rising up, enough is not enough. They need armed group

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Speaker 9: or militias that they need to be able to be

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Speaker 9: their voice, and you know, they do their work. So

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Speaker 9: what I can tell you that National Council of Resistance

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Speaker 9: of Iran has thousands of resistance units inside of Iran,

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Speaker 9: which is in more than thirty one provinces, and these

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Speaker 9: people are trained for the you know, gorilla fighting in

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Speaker 9: each cities, and these are the units that need to

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Speaker 9: be empowered. And I think the most important thing is

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Speaker 9: that the policies should be towards empowering people in Iran that.

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Speaker 10: They can do the change.

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Speaker 9: Decision will be changed by the Iranian people. So and

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Speaker 9: those units are the basis of National Liberation Army because

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Speaker 9: at the end of the day, we need to be

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Speaker 9: the boots on the ground in Iran and we need.

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Speaker 10: To do the change.

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Speaker 9: And I really think that the people are the majority

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Speaker 9: of people are fed up with decision.

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Speaker 10: They are done with decision.

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Speaker 9: And they have concluded that the armed struggle is the

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Speaker 9: only way that they can feed decision and fight the decision.

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Speaker 9: Just rising up is not going to be enough and

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Speaker 9: the regime would have the upper hand. But what is

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Speaker 9: definitely is clear that the regime is much weaker than

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Speaker 9: what it's being anticipated or you know being in media

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Speaker 9: that oh they are strong, but they are not. That's

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Speaker 9: why they start killing the innocent people that are in

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Speaker 9: prison or those people who have who are showing their

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Speaker 9: strength and they are standing up to them. That's why

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Speaker 9: the region tries to execute them during the war, which

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Speaker 9: is called really war crime. But they are doing it

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Speaker 9: why because they're afraid of their own people. That's why

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Speaker 9: they are executing people and they announce it and they

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Speaker 9: put it in you know, so many of the internal media.

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Speaker 10: And I think.

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Speaker 9: It's important for us to help Iranian to have the

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Speaker 9: access to seek your communications tools, you know, and remove

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Speaker 9: any bodrier for technology companies so and in satellite connectivity

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Speaker 9: so people can hear the news, see the news, and

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Speaker 9: that also they can communicate among themselves and be connected.

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Speaker 10: That this is what we really need right now.

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Speaker 3: As far as the viewpoint of some that Iran is

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Speaker 3: going to win this conflict by not losing it, I

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Speaker 3: hear democrats and many others often talk about the Iranian

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Speaker 3: regime will not step down. They will they'll go dying.

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Speaker 3: They're called genocidal, homicidal, and suicidal. They don't want to live,

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Speaker 3: they want to die, and they would take they would

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Speaker 3: take the world with them. Would you agree with the

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Speaker 3: notion and you spent a long time in Iranian prisons,

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Speaker 3: would you agree with the notions The leaders of Iran

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Speaker 3: right now are geneticidle. They want to kill Jews, Americans, Christians,

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Speaker 3: Western Europeans. That they're homicidal, they want to kill their

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Speaker 3: own people, and they're suicidal, so they don't mind dying

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Speaker 3: in the process as long as lots of people die

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Speaker 3: with them, is that accurate?

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Speaker 9: Well, what is certain is that this regime is very

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Speaker 9: brutal and has no ending to it. And they are

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Speaker 9: the ones that started to terrorist proxies around to intimidate

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Speaker 9: the world and bring them to the to the table

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Speaker 9: to continue their appeasement policy. So the true nature of decision,

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Speaker 9: I think is very clear to everyone around the world

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Speaker 9: that decisime doesn't stop at anything, killing its own people

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Speaker 9: or anyone outside of the Iran just to be in

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Speaker 9: the power, stay in power. But I think what is

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Speaker 9: important is that the Iranian people will that they do

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Speaker 9: want to change.

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Speaker 10: They do.

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Speaker 9: They are fed up the decision and they want to

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Speaker 9: see the downfall of decision. So we cannot and I

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Speaker 9: really don't think that, you know, decision is anywhere that

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Speaker 9: it used.

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Speaker 10: To be even a month ago.

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Speaker 4: It's weak, it's weaker, much weaker.

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Speaker 10: Set hundred, yeah, but a lot weaker.

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Speaker 9: But now we have to wise up and we have

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Speaker 9: to empower Iranian people for the regime church and that's

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Speaker 9: what is really needed.

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Speaker 10: There are we do need national liberation army.

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Speaker 9: National liberation army is the key, and that would be

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Speaker 9: that its own people that the army itself is going

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Speaker 9: to come from the Iranian people, and the Iranian people

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Speaker 9: know that they have to have they have to be armed,

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Speaker 9: and they have to be fighting decision. And I think

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Speaker 9: the important thing is that we need to focus where it.

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Speaker 9: You know, the focus needs to be the emergence of

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Speaker 9: the National Liberation Army strategy and what is the struggle

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Speaker 9: is between Iranian people and the regime. That's what they

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Speaker 9: need to focus. And we do have resistance units insight,

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Speaker 9: so let's bring all the all everything that we can

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Speaker 9: do as well as like the technology, giving the technology

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Speaker 9: to the people and also to recognize that there is

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Speaker 9: the foundation for National Liberation Army and allow those people

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Speaker 9: to form the National Liberation Army and fight the decision.

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Speaker 9: Decision is not going to just leave easily. And yes,

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Speaker 9: if they can bring chaotic and chaos to the world,

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Speaker 9: they will do it. They're not going to stop at anything.

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Speaker 9: But they're like miniacs, you know, like Hitler. It's the

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Speaker 9: end of its regime that was volunteer use twelve year

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Speaker 9: old to fight for them and use all everything that

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Speaker 9: they have, the remaining of everything that they have, and

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Speaker 9: they use it up so that that's why it's important

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Speaker 9: that we have a clear strategy of how to empowering

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Speaker 9: people inside of Iran to do the fight of their

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Speaker 9: the raditions of the regime on their own. That's what

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Speaker 9: we need to do and that's what we need to focus.

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Speaker 9: I really think the answer the key would be the

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Speaker 9: having the National Liberation Army to be formed and to

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Speaker 9: do the fight decision, and yes this in the decision.

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Speaker 9: You have to fight them in every street, in every

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Speaker 9: corner of the across Iran.

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Speaker 10: And when a couple of.

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Speaker 9: Cities are free from the IRGC and message forces, then

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Speaker 9: that's the time that you'll see that everything else would

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Speaker 9: fall down. And that's why it's important to look at

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Speaker 9: an opposition that has all these plans. And NCRI National

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Speaker 9: Consul of Resistance of Iran announced the formation of a

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Speaker 9: provisional government in February twenty eighth, So that shows an

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Speaker 9: opposition that has thought about every angle and what is

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Speaker 9: needed for a regime change by the ruining people, and

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Speaker 9: that's what we need to recognize.

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Speaker 3: Sharon Nerman, there was a comment by the President ten

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Speaker 3: days of almost ten days ago that all hell is

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Speaker 3: going to break Lucy either Monday night Tuesday or Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: taking out bridges and water plants and oil facilities. And

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Speaker 3: that's being called by the Democrats in America a war crime.

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Speaker 3: And I would anticipate that the soldiers and the airmen

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Speaker 3: who shot down the F fifteen, and thank god we

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Speaker 3: have both pilots back, they probably use bridges and water

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Speaker 3: plants and also oil facilities to facilitate what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Assuming Tuesday morning Tuesday night occurs and the president in

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Speaker 3: Israel launches this horrific attack on bridges and water plants

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Speaker 3: and also oil, what would that mean for the average Iranians?

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Speaker 3: Democrats say it's a war crime. Democrats say the twenty

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Speaker 3: fifth Amendments should be should be invoked. The country's on

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Speaker 3: its back right now. The currency is worthless, there's no

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Speaker 3: economy whatsoever. And so as a dissident, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: and I think you're a pro democracy Iranian who spend

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Speaker 3: a quite a bit of time in prisons in Iran,

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Speaker 3: would you urge the president, assuming a deal can't be

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Speaker 3: struck sometime Monday or Tuesday, to let the hounds of

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Speaker 3: hell loose and to take down completely the nation of Iran?

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Speaker 4: Would you favor that?

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm not president.

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Speaker 9: I'm not a decision maker, but I think the average

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Speaker 9: Iranian would be under a lot of a lot more

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Speaker 9: pressure if anything like that happened. So I would urge

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Speaker 9: the administration to take a look at.

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Speaker 10: Is what else it.

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Speaker 9: Can be done, you know, Like you know, I really

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Speaker 9: think that's supporting the opposition and allowing the opposition to

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Speaker 9: do the job. I think that's the most important thing,

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Speaker 9: because that's what the Erinian regime fear the most.

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Speaker 10: They are afraid of.

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Speaker 9: People are fighting back, and that's what we need to

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Speaker 9: help people empower Iranian people for the change, and that's

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Speaker 9: the change that it should be.

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Speaker 10: It will come.

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Speaker 9: We know that people are at the end of the day,

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Speaker 9: this is the Iranian people who have to fight decision

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Speaker 9: and they will fight back decisime, I you know, and that's.

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Speaker 10: What they need to focus on.

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Speaker 9: How we can empower the ordinary Iranian people that know

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Speaker 9: they have got to the conclusion that they have to

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Speaker 9: fight decision themselves. How we can help them to do

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Speaker 9: their job, to finish the job and to release Iran

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Speaker 9: from all these miniacs that are controlling Iran and really

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Speaker 9: bringing destruction, the total destructions to the people. They are

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Speaker 9: imposing it, and this regime is responsible for all of

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Speaker 9: this that we are seeing right now.

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Speaker 3: Lastly, Sharon Nerriman, is it fair to say that the

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Speaker 3: Iranian leadership knows if they voluntarily give up power, they

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Speaker 3: have a chance to live somewhere else, like Turkey is

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Speaker 3: offered them, come to Turkey if you want refuge there.

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Speaker 3: And they know that if the Iranian people take over,

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Speaker 3: they're dead. And so the one or two thousand that

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Speaker 3: control Iran actually in charge, is it their viewpoint that

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Speaker 3: if they give up power that they're dead.

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Speaker 10: Yes, they well they are.

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Speaker 9: They're yeah, they're afraid because they know as soon as

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Speaker 9: they give up the power, and that's why they not

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Speaker 9: you know, they are willing to see that Iran is

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Speaker 9: totally distructed, but they would be able to control Iran

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Speaker 9: a little longer. You know.

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Speaker 10: They also know that this is the end of decision.

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Speaker 9: Whatever is left they are, they know that this is

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Speaker 9: their end, but they are trying to buy time, and

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Speaker 9: they don't care about the well being of average Iranian

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Speaker 9: or the infrastructure that we have in Iran. They don't

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Speaker 9: care about any of those. They just want to see

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Speaker 9: that they are in power. So that's why they are

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Speaker 9: willing to do anything is possible. That's why again we

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Speaker 9: get back to the point that Iranians now, people that

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Speaker 9: live in Iran and I talk to them every day,

931
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Speaker 9: to different people calling me, they know.

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Speaker 10: They have to fight fight that decision.

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Speaker 9: They know that the armed struggle is the only way,

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Speaker 9: the only solution left.

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Speaker 10: Everyone knows that.

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Speaker 9: So we have to think of how we can help

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Speaker 9: them to be armed, and also how this liberation army

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Speaker 9: national liberation army to form and who has all these solutions?

939
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Speaker 9: Which opposition has all these solutions and plans, And that's

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Speaker 9: what we need to focus on that and and and

941
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Speaker 9: start the dialogue so we can we can help Iranian people,

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Speaker 9: Ironians and I'm sure, uh everyone that is outside of

943
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Speaker 9: Iran is willing to join and to fight back this

944
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Speaker 9: regime to downfall of decision, because if the Regin falls tomorrow,

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Speaker 9: it's much better than if it falls the next days.

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Speaker 3: Sharon Nerman about about thirty seconds remaining, are you very

947
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Speaker 3: confident that America with their allies, within the next say,

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Speaker 3: three months, that there's going to be a change in

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Speaker 3: the Iranian regime and the Iranian people will be free,

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Speaker 3: say in the next three months, we have thirty seconds.

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Speaker 4: What do you say.

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Speaker 10: I'm very very hopeful for that.

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Speaker 4: I have hope. I think this is the moment, correct,

954
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Speaker 4: this is the moment. This is it, this is this

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Speaker 4: is the time.

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Speaker 10: We have to finish the job.

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Speaker 3: That's my And once you're into it, at this point,

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Speaker 3: there's only one way to win a war, and that

959
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Speaker 3: is by complete victory. And once you're into it, you

960
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Speaker 3: got to win it. And god darn it, we're in

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Speaker 3: it right now. Sharon Nerman from Iran. Once again, thanks

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Speaker 3: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sharon you're

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Speaker 3: you're a great American and a great Iranian. Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much, Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue there

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Speaker 3: it is well, let's continue Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday,

966
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Speaker 3: Billy cunning Him up against the clock, of course, but

967
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Speaker 3: listen to the words of Sharon Nerman. She knows exactly

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Speaker 3: what's happening in Iran, and victory will occur if we

969
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Speaker 3: stick with it. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you

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Speaker 3: every Sunday night to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first

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Speaker 3: of all, explain what the ballistics have shown and why

972
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Speaker 3: they don't We don't think they show much at all,

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Speaker 3: but many said it's the smoking gun.

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Speaker 4: Explain that to the American people.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks for having me on. So yeah, So basically,

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Speaker 11: what the ATF did, and this is what the sort

977
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Speaker 11: of like the non controversy has sort of stemmed from,

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Speaker 11: is you had the Daily Mail sort of go with

979
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Speaker 11: this headline claiming that the bullets that was test fired

980
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Speaker 11: from Robinson's rifle didn't match the bullet that was inside

981
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Speaker 11: of Charlie. But basically, if you look at what they

982
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Speaker 11: actually looked at, the ats is when a bullet is

983
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Speaker 11: fired from a gun, it goes through the barrel, the

984
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Speaker 11: hard still the barrel versus the soft copper of the

985
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Speaker 11: jacket of the bullet. It leaves behind on the copper

986
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Speaker 11: jacket these marks and grooves that are unique to the

987
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Speaker 11: rifle that fired them, and it's consistent from bullets to bullet.

988
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Speaker 11: But what was in Charlie there was not enough copper

989
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Speaker 11: recoverable and being that was able to be put back

990
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Speaker 11: together to actually identify those markings because it's basically a

991
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Speaker 11: fingerprint for a weapon. Some of your listeners might remember

992
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Speaker 11: a lot of like the old like either CSI CSI Miami,

993
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Speaker 11: where they'd be looking at the bullets under microscopes to

994
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Speaker 11: like determine, like if the markings match. It's that type

995
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Speaker 11: of thing where basically there was not enough intact copper

996
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Speaker 11: recovered from Charlie to be able to compare it to

997
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Speaker 11: a test bullet fired. And basically this happens a lot

998
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Speaker 11: of times in different cases, and there's other evidence that

999
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Speaker 11: can be used in a case to bring somebody to justice.

1000
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Speaker 11: In this case, it's his family turning them in. The

1001
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Speaker 11: messages the killer sent to his training boyfriend and girlfriend,

1002
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Speaker 11: whatever it is, and the messages that it basically almost

1003
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Speaker 11: admitting to this.

1004
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Speaker 3: Right, he confessed, and I guess you can't get away

1005
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: from that that. Tyler Robinson actually confessed a few times,

1006
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Speaker 3: and he fits the profile. It was his weapon, and

1007
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Speaker 3: his fingerprint was on the weapon, correct fingerprint. He left

1008
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Speaker 3: the gun behind, which is a rifle behind, which is

1009
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Speaker 3: really stupid. And then ever was a two to three

1010
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Speaker 3: day search. He was located. His father kind of turned

1011
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Speaker 3: him in, and so I guess the headline was the

1012
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Speaker 3: bullet the kill.

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Speaker 4: Shot didn't match the rifle. Isn't that misleading? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Exactly, So you had the Daily Mail, one would a

1015
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Speaker 11: thing that claimed the headline and tweets that claimed that

1016
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Speaker 11: there was no match at all, but there wasn't anything

1017
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Speaker 11: to match. It's like saying they sound like a partial fingerprint,

1018
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Speaker 11: but it's like only one groove of a fingerprint and saying, oh,

1019
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Speaker 11: it doesn't match. There wasn't enough there for them to

1020
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Speaker 11: actually try to even do the match because there was

1021
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Speaker 11: not enough copper intact copper pieces for them to pull

1022
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Speaker 11: the markings to compare it to the test shot from

1023
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Speaker 11: the rifle.

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Speaker 3: And this is a little bit gruesome, but it is

1025
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Speaker 3: thought because the round only hit muscle and tissue, there

1026
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Speaker 3: should have been more of the bullet remaining. But in

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Speaker 3: reality it could have hit a vertebra in the neck

1028
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Speaker 3: that would have shattered the round into pieces and the

1029
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Speaker 3: shrap now saying it wasn't available to be matched, am

1030
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Speaker 3: I correct about that?

1031
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that is a possibility. And there are definitely different

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Speaker 11: ballistics videos that you can watch online from like Brendon Herrera,

1033
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Speaker 11: Kentucky Ballistics, any one of these that will that shoot

1034
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Speaker 11: rounds into listics Gelatin for for content creation, and you

1035
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Speaker 11: can see that with especially with like rifle bullets and

1036
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Speaker 11: stuff like that. But they're they're meant to sort of

1037
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Speaker 11: splay open and when they hit certain materials, even just

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Speaker 11: flesh sort of display open and flatten, and they can

1039
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Speaker 11: possibly just shred to pieces. Or if they hit they

1040
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Speaker 11: hit bone, they can break to pieces. That's sort of

1041
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Speaker 11: what they're designed to do, because they're they're designed to

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Speaker 11: dump energy into a target.

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Speaker 3: I've seen rifle shots in a gelatine which isn't very thick,

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Speaker 3: and it will it will change and shatter the round

1045
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Speaker 3: even though it doesn't hit a bone. It will actually

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Speaker 3: and that's what is intended to do. Can you give

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Speaker 3: me your just your opinion, what's behind this? I try

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Speaker 3: to watch some of that. I try to I try

1049
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Speaker 3: to watch Candizone a little bit, so I found out

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Speaker 3: what she's talking about. She got the CIA involved, got

1051
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Speaker 3: the got the Israelis involved, that they have the security

1052
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Speaker 3: team for Charlie Kirk. They were involved, and you got

1053
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Speaker 3: the metal necklace moving inappropriately. The microphone was an explosive device.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm watching this and I'm I mean, can can

1055
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Speaker 3: you tell me why? Why is this a thing especially

1056
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Speaker 3: among conservative media to get the Jews, the c i

1057
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Speaker 3: A involved. Jeffrey Epstein was involved in this somehow, and

1058
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Speaker 3: I'm going what.

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Speaker 11: Instead the Egyptians?

1060
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Speaker 4: The Egyptians? Can you can you walk away?

1061
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Speaker 3: These are bright Cannon owensin, Tucker Carlson are bright people.

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Speaker 4: They're probably geniuses.

1063
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Speaker 5: What what what?

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Speaker 4: Why Why are they into this?

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Speaker 11: I I it's from in my just to put on

1066
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 11: my own personal hat here. I think a lot of

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Speaker 11: it is, uh. They they they know well that this

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Speaker 11: isn't true, and it's a lot of it is they're

1069
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Speaker 11: doing it for the clicks. They're doing it for the traffic,

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Speaker 11: They're doing it for the hate watchers. It is about

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Speaker 11: generating buzz for them and their programs, their products to

1072
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Speaker 11: get people to do more. But that's what we saw,

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Speaker 11: at least that's my belief with even the Daily Mails

1074
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Speaker 11: deceptive headline, where you have people sharing their tweet, sharing

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Speaker 11: their reports and just either retweeting it because they believe

1076
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Speaker 11: it or retweeting it because they want they're trying to

1077
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Speaker 11: go against it, strike it down and refute it. So

1078
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Speaker 11: now their their story and their tweet is going viral,

1079
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Speaker 11: they're going to get the ad revenue from X for it.

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Speaker 11: And then if you go even to the Daily Mail website,

1081
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Speaker 11: like you go there and you're just bombarding. If you

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Speaker 11: don't have ad blocker on, you're just bombarded with ads

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Speaker 11: on both of the columns, pop ups in your face,

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Speaker 11: ads between almost every paragraph. Seemingly like a lot of

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01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 11: this is to generate revenue, generate cloud and generate people

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01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 11: like interest so people can get more of their material.

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Speaker 11: It's it's a me, me me financial thing.

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Speaker 3: And so you're you're saying that without clickbait, they sell

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Speaker 3: called podcasters don't even exist without that.

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Speaker 4: So and you need clickbait.

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Speaker 3: And so I would not have gone to the Daily

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Speaker 3: Mail story except the headline that the kill shot and

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: the bullet didn't match the rifle.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, what is that?

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01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: And then I'll watch Candice Oways thinking, Okay, I want

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Speaker 3: to hear why she has this intense discussed for Erica Kirk.

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01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm trying to understand where she's going. I finally give

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01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: up and see I can't beg this anymore. And so

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Speaker 3: you think it's clickbait money, that's what's behind it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think a lot of it is clickbait stuff,

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 11: or maybe even in some of their instances, probably Candace

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 11: she actually believes that, which is kind of not even

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 11: good for to say about her herself there. But basically, yeah,

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Speaker 11: a lot of it is, and like I would respect

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 11: they're they're a little bit in that. Like there's plenty

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Speaker 11: of podcasters out there who can make a name for

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01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 11: themselves who make good content without going into this type

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01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 11: of stuff. If it's like either comedy stuff, they're talking

1109
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 11: about sports stuff like that. Like, there are plenty of

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 11: different podcasts that don't deal with this, even on the

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 11: the political right world.

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Speaker 2: They'll avoid this.

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01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 11: Type of thing and don't go with that, and they're

1114
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 11: able to produce good content that gets thumb in audience

1115
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 11: and is a positive message for the right that doesn't

1116
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 11: have to deal with this type of conspiracy theories with

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 11: grim implications.

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Speaker 4: And this was video. We saw it.

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Speaker 3: I forced myself two or three times to watch it.

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Speaker 3: I watch him die right there, and then a security team,

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01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: what would you need you jump into the scene quickly

1122
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: to try to say, to save Charlie, which was not possible.

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Speaker 3: But now they're putting things in their pocket that shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be put in their pocket. I'm looking at at this

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Speaker 3: one website that said Charlie Kirk is still alive. I'm

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: looking another one say who killed Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, what, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what to say.

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Speaker 3: And and and then when the trial tape Tyler Robinson's trial,

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Speaker 3: I hope it's I hope it's broadcasting. I want to

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01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 3: see the evidence to put these things to rest. But

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: there's almost an unnatural hatred for Erica Kirk of taking

1133
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: over that she was somehow involved in this, that she

1134
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: wasn't at the scene, she was somewhere else, and when

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: she found out about it, she went there immediately. And

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01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: when she went there, somebody in her entourage charged twelve

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01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: hundred dollars on a website to get some clothing. The

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01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: reason was she went there so quickly, she didn't take

1139
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: a bag. But every action of Erica Kirk's being examined

1140
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 3: by the far right to make a look as if

1141
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: she was involved in her husband's death, and that he

1142
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 3: didn't want to marry her, that Donald Trump got involved

1143
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: somehow and forced forced the marriage upon her. I'm reading

1144
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: this stuff and I'm losing my mind. Can't we just understand?

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01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: Turning Point USA has been a tremendously positive effect on

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,959
Speaker 3: American society. What Charlie Kirk did over a ten twelve

1147
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: year period was impossible to do, and he did it.

1148
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: He turned young Americans toward conservatism. And now that he

1149
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: was murdered and it was videoed and the evidence is

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01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: beyond approach that yes, somehow he was murdered in that situation.

1151
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 3: And these conspiracy theories have the Utah campus police involved too,

1152
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: because one of the security guys said, who's got the

1153
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: coverage of the rooftops and according to media accounts, they said,

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01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: we'll have those covered, and then Charlie Kirk's team did

1155
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 3: not follow through that day to make sure they were covered.

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01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: So whatever, and who killed Charlie Kirk to cover up

1157
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 3: the Epstein files.

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Speaker 4: I'm going I'm losing my mind, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And Nick, give me your thoughts and where this thing's headed,

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Speaker 3: if anywhere, before we talk about what's happening in Iran.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm just hoping that right now it's it's it

1162
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 11: should be dying out, But unfortunately, with the Daily Mails report,

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 11: it's going to add more fuel to this fire. But

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01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 11: just because it's them and everybody else just trying to

1165
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 11: generate con content or generate traffic for themselves rather and

1166
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 11: just trying to make a buck off of it. It's

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01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 11: pretty disgusting.

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Speaker 3: About this this CNN Candice Owens won't take back conspiracy theories.

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 3: Owens has instead suggested France, Israel, and Egypt might have

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Speaker 3: been involved, that Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people close

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Speaker 3: to him.

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Speaker 4: I'm going, so it isn't Tyler Robinson.

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01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 3: It's France, Israel and Egypt got involved in this big

1174
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 3: conspiracy in order to take away responsibilities or decoveries of

1175
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 3: the Epstein files.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, have I lost my mind or what? Leave

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Speaker 4: that to the side.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching now what's happening in Iran with the down

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Speaker 3: to F fifteen, et cetera. And now we have Joe

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01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 3: Scarborough and others saying that Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 3: is on your website NewsBusters dot org, Nick Vonacerro, that

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Speaker 3: they've committed war crimes and that when the Democrats take

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01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: over in the Hague, there's going to be Donald Trump's

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Speaker 3: going to be a war criminal.

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Speaker 4: It's one thing.

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Speaker 3: After November, if the polls are right, the Democrats going

1187
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 3: to impeach him forever. Then when he gets out of office,

1188
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: he'll be sued in died it all over again. But

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Speaker 3: according to NBC News. According to ms now, Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: right now is a war criminal taking out that bridge.

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 4: Explain that to the American people.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's absolute bunk. And it's basically them just

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 11: trying to scrap for anything to try to put a

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 11: negative spin on taking out our ran. This the number

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 11: one state sponsored terrorism in the world. They're trying there.

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Speaker 11: They're also saying, like him striking oil infrastructure, where we

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Speaker 11: considered a war crime. Meanwhile, they all support Ukraine, and

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Speaker 11: Ukraine is striking Russian oil facilities, and you don't hear

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Speaker 11: any of them calling saying that Ukraine is Ukraine is

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 11: committing those war crimes at all. And even when it

1201
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 11: comes to what Trump is saying about striking the power

1202
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 11: plants and stuff like that, that's there are ways to

1203
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 11: hit the power plants with out destroying them like they

1204
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 11: want him to do. There's there are things that we

1205
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 11: can launch at power lines to cover them with metal

1206
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,440
Speaker 11: that just takes out the power lines, not the facilities themselves.

1207
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 11: They want this to be as bad looking as possible.

1208
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 11: They wanted to they go along with these narratives to

1209
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 11: just make Trump look as evil as possible. This is

1210
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 11: what came out in a defamation shoot against ms MSNBC

1211
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 11: a few years ago, a couple of years ago, rather

1212
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 11: where they will go along, and this came out in

1213
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 11: discovery and they ended up having to settle. They basically

1214
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 11: will come out and say they'll pick a story, go

1215
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 11: with a narrative, even though that narrative is not true

1216
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 11: and it's sort of shady. If it invokes the type

1217
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,520
Speaker 11: of imagery that they would like with Trump, like Kovorkian,

1218
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 11: any sort of Nazi thing, They're going to run with it.

1219
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 11: And that's exactly what they're doing in this case.

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01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: Well, on Thursday, Joe Scarborough ms NOW delivered a legal

1221
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 3: judgment on potential US strikes against Irani infrastructure. That's a

1222
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 3: war crime that's taken out, the dams, the bridge that

1223
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: was taken out, and maybe the power plants, et cetera,

1224
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 3: maybe carg Island, and that ending up the idea that

1225
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 3: now the NATO allies, most of them are kind of

1226
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: against what's going on, and as a consequence, they're in

1227
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: charge of the Hague for international war crime to get

1228
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 3: a warrant out for Donald Trump's arrest. So we can't

1229
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 3: you know, you thought it was over after what Donald

1230
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: Trump went through the first time, which are the ninety

1231
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: two counts indictments of being arrested sitting in a filthy

1232
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: New York City courtroom Alan Alvin Bragg for like seven

1233
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 3: or eight weeks, then on to Atlanta, then on the Nevada,

1234
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 3: onto Arizona, and it goes on and on, and they're

1235
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: getting ready when he leaves office. I pray to God

1236
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 3: in January of twenty twenty nine, that's when the fund

1237
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: begins again. From their perspective, it won't be enough to

1238
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: impeach them. They're going to have to federally criminally indict him.

1239
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: If the Democrat wins the presidency in twenty twenty eight,

1240
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 3: here we go again with Donald Trump. At that point,

1241
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 3: the poor guy is going to be eighty three years old,

1242
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: and then they're going to go after him for war crimes,

1243
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 3: including the American pilots, including Pete Hegseth, including the Chairman

1244
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They're all going to

1245
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 3: be indicted in the Hague for war crimes because during

1246
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: a war they took out a bridge and took out

1247
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: some power stations. And I thought, at some point, you know,

1248
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: I thought it would be over after the Democrats what

1249
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: they did to Donald Trump and seventy five other people

1250
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: around him, and now it's kind of coming back the

1251
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 3: other way.

1252
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: Pam Bondi's gone.

1253
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 3: I would anticipate the new acting ag is gonna do

1254
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 3: some things to make it more difficult and make it easier,

1255
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: shall we say, for the Democrats who commit a crime

1256
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: to be indicted, and then it's going to continue on

1257
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty. It's not gonna stop.

1258
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 3: We're going to keep going on and on and on.

1259
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: And it begins with Joe Scarborough and Democrats saying this

1260
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: is a war crime, and war crime is committed by

1261
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: war criminals, and these criminals, that is Donald Trump and

1262
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: others must be arrested. Well, we have to run Nick Vonacerro,

1263
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: and we'll see what happens with Charlie Kirk, who lived

1264
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: a good life.

1265
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 4: He was a good man.

1266
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: There's a grieving widow with a couple of small kids,

1267
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: and suddenly the conservative media, the left, the far right

1268
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 3: wing of the right wing of the conservative media, is

1269
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 3: blaming Erica Kirk, the Chinese, the Russians, the Egyptians, the Jews.

1270
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: Everybody's responsible except Tyler Robinson, and you think about this,

1271
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 3: can you imagine these other countries. We have to pick

1272
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: one person to be the patsy. Let's pick Tyler Robinson

1273
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: to work for us to kill Charlie Kirk, and let's

1274
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: have him dating this one furry character, and then he's

1275
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 3: going to confess to the whole thing. His fingerprint is

1276
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: going to be on the weapon. And guess what, we'll

1277
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: find somebody else as responsible. Can anybody sell this to anybody?

1278
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: Does this work in the real world?

1279
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, unfortunately, it does seem like there's some people that

1280
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 11: are interested in and want to try to buy that

1281
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 11: type of narrative. And just to go back to what

1282
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 11: you were saying, like with the war crime stuff, like yeah,

1283
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 11: what you pointed out, what they want to go after

1284
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 11: the pilots and stuff. They're willing the left and the

1285
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 11: media or willing to throw American service members who are

1286
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 11: putting their lives on the line under the bus just

1287
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 11: so they can quote unquote get Trump right. And they're

1288
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 11: willing to throw away American sovereignty to drag Americans. But

1289
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 11: in front of the Hague, like the only like international

1290
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 11: if you talk to international experts and foreign politicisers, they'll

1291
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 11: tell you. International law is kind of like a thing

1292
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 11: that really doesn't exist because like a country needs to

1293
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 11: willingly subject themselves to the Hague and these foreign these

1294
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 11: laws because there's no way to actually enforce it, and

1295
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 11: countries tend not to do it because it gives up

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Speaker 11: their sovereignties. So they want to give up American sovereignty

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Speaker 11: and they want to punish American service members just to

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Speaker 4: Well, we got it run.

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Speaker 3: But even Santa m Kelly a few weeks I talked

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Speaker 3: six years ago. We got to run NewsBusters dot Org.

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Speaker 3: And Nick Fondacaro, you're great American and thanks for coming

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Speaker 3: on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Nick.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on Bill Cunningham The Great American

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Speaker 3: Live with you every Sunday night. And if you have

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Speaker 3: left wing media bias. Did you have a sense that

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Speaker 3: when the second pilot was recovered about twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: ago and Democrats thought it was bad for them. Did

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Speaker 3: you have a sense they were ready to launch on

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Speaker 3: the president this morning on all the talk shows and

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Speaker 3: then had to change their talking points. So if you

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Speaker 3: I somehow pleased with the fact that an American aviator

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Speaker 3: is alive and found, I think you got a problem.

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Speaker 3: You should see someone professionally. And when this morning I

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Speaker 3: heard so many Senate Democrats talk about, you know what,

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifth Amendment needs to be imposed and put

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Speaker 3: JD Vance in the White House. Where were they when

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden was mentally incompetent, one might ask, they were

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Speaker 3: silent as a duck. Well, let's contake you with more

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Speaker 3: coming up next to Dean Rigus talk about the Artemis

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Speaker 1: his broadcast excellence, The one and only Bill Cunningham.

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Speaker 3: By Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, Artemis two

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Speaker 3: is on its way to the Moon, around the Moon

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Speaker 3: and back and a great message today astronaut Victor Glover

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Speaker 3: send an Easter message to Earth. Quote whether you celebrated

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Speaker 3: or not, whether you believe in God or not, this

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Speaker 3: is an opportunity for us to remember where we are,

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Speaker 3: who we are and uh, and that we are the

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Speaker 3: same thing and that we got to this through this together.

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Speaker 3: Quote unquote from one of the astronauts joining you and

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Speaker 3: I now is the astronaut astronomer astronomer to the stars.

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Speaker 3: That is Dean Regas. Dean Regas, welcome again to the

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Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham shown. First of all, Dean, where's Artemis two

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Speaker 3: now as we speak? And then, uh, where's it going?

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Speaker 3: Where's it coming from? What's happening? Great Easter message? Give

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Speaker 3: me a full report what's happening now with Artemis two.

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Speaker 7: Glad to be here with you on this momentous event

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Speaker 7: that's happening. I mean, this mission Artemist two is one

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Speaker 7: for the ages, sending people around the Moon and back.

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Speaker 7: So as of right around now, they're about little us

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Speaker 7: than sixty thousand miles from the moon, so they are

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Speaker 7: almost there. They're gonna get around to the backside of

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Speaker 7: the Moon tomorrow afternoon, and so that's when they officially

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Speaker 7: will get that full view of I'm waiting for that

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Speaker 7: view of the Moon in the foreground with the little

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Speaker 7: tiny Earth in the background where everybody is, and it's

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Speaker 7: that's expected tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell us why is the mission happening? I

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Speaker 3: was around, maybe you weren't with Apollo. One small step

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Speaker 3: for a man, one giant lead for mankind. What is

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Speaker 3: the purpose of the mission?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the last time we've done this was

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Speaker 7: nineteen seventy two. I was bored a little bit after that.

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Speaker 7: So I've never seen anything experiencing and quite like this.

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Speaker 7: And so the you know, the whole thing of going

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Speaker 7: back to the Moon is this long drawn out process

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Speaker 7: because it takes so much money. Number one takes so

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Speaker 7: much no how, it takes a little bit of luck

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Speaker 7: and a lot of engineering. And so it was after

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Speaker 7: nineteen seventy two I think that the NASA and the

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Speaker 7: general public kind of thought, well, we did it.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to set up a base.

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Speaker 7: We beat the Russians to the Moon, and so going

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Speaker 7: back it's been a long haul, that's for sure. It's

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Speaker 7: been a long wait, and that's just because I think

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Speaker 7: there wasn't any real strategic advantage to go. There wasn't

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Speaker 7: like they're going to bring back moon rocks and make

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Speaker 7: us all rich and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's more of.

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Speaker 7: Exploration and you know, kind of who's in charge of

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Speaker 7: space and so there could be a little bit of

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Speaker 7: a space race going on again with China this time

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Speaker 7: that they want to send people back to the Moon.

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Speaker 7: But this is hopefully just the first step towards some

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Speaker 7: more you know, human space flight and exploration.

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Speaker 3: When I spoke to a few weeks ago about why

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Speaker 3: this is happening and why the moon, and you brought

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Speaker 3: up an interesting point I want to ferret out from

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Speaker 3: you a little more.

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Speaker 5: That the Moon is.

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Speaker 4: Part of the Earth.

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Speaker 3: Explain how the collisions took place between the Earth and

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Speaker 3: some other small planet or large asteroid that it hit

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Speaker 3: the Earth, and from the Earth the moon rocks formed,

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Speaker 3: circled the Earth and eventually got to where it is today.

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Speaker 3: Explain how the Moon was created by the Earth.

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Speaker 7: It's one of the most fascinating, remarkable, and almost unbelievable

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Speaker 7: things that we've we've figured out, is where the Moon

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Speaker 7: came from. Because it's you know, our moon is very

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Speaker 7: large compared to our planet. Compared to all the other

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Speaker 7: planets out there, they all have much smaller moons than

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Speaker 7: the planets themselves. Some of the moons formed with the planets.

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Speaker 7: Some of the moons were captured by their planet. Ours

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Speaker 7: was blasted off of us. And so the theory went

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Speaker 7: that the Earth was struck by a very large object,

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Speaker 7: almost the size of Mars. This was way back when

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Speaker 7: before people, way before air, before water. The Earth was

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Speaker 7: still molten, still cooling, and it hit the Earth with

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Speaker 7: such force, broke off a piece of the Earth that

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Speaker 7: scattered off and made a ring around the Earth for

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Speaker 7: a long time, which would have been a beautiful sights.

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Speaker 6: See.

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Speaker 7: Then those particles all came together by gravity and then

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Speaker 7: formed into the.

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Speaker 4: Moon that we see up there at night. It's it's

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Speaker 4: that we're the only planet that has that kind of

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Speaker 4: moon system.

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Speaker 7: Explain how Apollo eleven proved that. Well, yeah, so before that,

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Speaker 7: everybody was like, oh, okay, that's a good theory. That

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Speaker 7: sounds pretty ridiculous, but yeah, all right, sure. But and

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Speaker 7: so new Armstrong and buzz aldron Land in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 7: nine they bring back moon rocks and samples, and the

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Speaker 7: geologists just go nuts over these things because they're like,

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Speaker 7: what is where'd you get these rocks?

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Speaker 4: And it's like, well, you know, I was on the Moon,

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe you saw me on TV.

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Speaker 7: And they figure out these are very very similar to

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Speaker 7: Earth rocks. The they're almost identical. There's only a few differences,

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Speaker 7: and so that sealed the deal with the theory is

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Speaker 7: that these rocks that new Armstrong brought back were I said, yep,

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Speaker 7: they were just like old some of the oldest Earth

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Speaker 7: rocks are very similar to the oldest Moon rocks.

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Speaker 3: So the DNA of the Moon through the rocks brought

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Speaker 3: back by Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron matched the DNA

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Speaker 3: of the rocks on Earth.

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Speaker 4: Essentially, that's it.

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Speaker 7: The fingerprints were very similar, just slight differences, and it's

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Speaker 7: the only way they could explained that way, because you know,

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Speaker 7: Mars rocks we see are completely different than than ours,

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Speaker 7: and you know from the rovers.

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Speaker 4: They can tell us that.

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Speaker 7: But having these actual big, you know, sample sizes, was

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Speaker 7: was huge talk about it being.

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Speaker 3: A hoax, and of course I met Neil Armstrong from

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati a couple of times on the golf course with

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Speaker 3: Neil Armstrong. I didn't bring it up to him, of course,

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Speaker 3: because that would be insulting.

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Speaker 4: But what evans do you have, Dean Reguez?

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Speaker 3: The whole thing wasn't a hoax put together about Hollywood,

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Speaker 3: other than the fact that I met a couple of

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Speaker 3: the astronauts on Apollo eleven and you meet Michael Collins.

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Speaker 3: I met buzz Aldron and Neil Armstrong, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: bring it up to them because that's highly offensive.

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Speaker 4: What proof do you have it was in a hoax?

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Speaker 7: I'm glad you didn't bring it up because you probably

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Speaker 7: saw that one when buzz Aldron, you know, popped the

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Speaker 7: one guy that I touched him. You give a little

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Speaker 7: punch of crunch. They gave a little chin music. So

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Speaker 7: Neil Armstrong was probably not going to do that, but

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Speaker 7: he would give you a stare down, that's for sure.

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Speaker 7: I would say that, you know, my best evidence is

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Speaker 7: that you look at all those videos of them on

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Speaker 7: the surface of the Moon, and so that's the part

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Speaker 7: that is unfakeable. You can't fake moon gravity, uh, because

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Speaker 7: it's one sixth of what is on Earth. The way

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Speaker 7: they move, they you know, go up with the same force.

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Speaker 7: But they come down with one six gravity, and those

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Speaker 7: videos of them walking on the moon, every little speck

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Speaker 7: of dust that they kick up and fall with one

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Speaker 7: six gravity, it is unfakeable. And I know it's unfakeable

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Speaker 7: because in movies today when we show people on the Moon,

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Speaker 7: they don't even do that in movie today with CGI

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Speaker 7: Dean May is completely unfakable. It is.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, the Grassy Knoll. But

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Speaker 3: this thing is is provable. It's if you don't believe

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Speaker 3: it's so bit live your own life. Secondly, the plan

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Speaker 3: is to land back on the Moon in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: The Chinese want to do it in twenty twenty nine

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Speaker 3: or twenty thirty. So how does this mission Artemis two

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Speaker 3: play in the landing on the Moon and establishing a

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Speaker 3: base there.

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Speaker 4: How does one thing help the other?

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Speaker 7: Well, so number one was they sent a few years ago,

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Speaker 7: they sent the unmanned crew around the Moon. That was

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Speaker 7: Artemis one, and that was kind of famous because they

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Speaker 7: had a mannequin in the seat, which I thought was,

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Speaker 7: you know, all right, that's an interesting choice. But anyway,

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Speaker 7: so that tested out the system. The rocket made it.

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Speaker 7: Now they're touched out. The rocket plus the life support

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Speaker 7: systems and everything else. And maybe some people heard about

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Speaker 7: the toilet having some issues on the spacecraft. Currently they

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Speaker 7: fixed that, thankfully, So they that's a big load off

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Speaker 7: of their minds, that's sure. But so then the third

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Speaker 7: mission is going to be testing out what kind of

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Speaker 7: landing system they're going to use. So they're going to

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Speaker 7: test that in low Earth orbits. They're not going to

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Speaker 7: go all the way to the Moon to test these out.

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Speaker 7: And there's two or at least two different options they're

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Speaker 7: looking at, and they're gonna see which one tests better.

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Speaker 7: And then Artemis four then is going to be the

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Speaker 7: real deal where they go all the way to the

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Speaker 7: Moon and then descend to the surface. And so that

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Speaker 7: timeline is saying twenty twenty eight, but you never know

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Speaker 7: what delays and all that.

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Speaker 4: Kind of stuff. But that's that's the optimistic view.

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Speaker 3: When Artemists two took off, I was holding my breath

1511
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 3: several Here it goes, well, a Dean rigus, were you

1512
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: holding your breath?

1513
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 11: I was nervous.

1514
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 7: I was very nervous all around, because you know this

1515
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 7: and this mission had been delayed several months, and uh uh,

1516
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 7: they seemed to I got the impression it was gonna

1517
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 7: go like you get those other I don't know, you

1518
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 7: get these feelings with their releases. The February launch didn't

1519
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 7: seem real like it was gonna happen. The March one

1520
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 7: got but when this April one came around, there's some

1521
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 7: definiteness about this that they were going to do it.

1522
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 4: And then the only question was were they going to

1523
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 4: launch on the first day? And that's the day.

1524
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 7: They had five days that they could launch it, and

1525
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 7: the the first day they just went for it. And

1526
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 7: I don't blame them at all. I think that's you know,

1527
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 7: the window was open, everything was a go. They're all

1528
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 7: in there, let's do it. So I was nervous for

1529
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 7: them because of all the tests that you know, they've

1530
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 7: done before that you know, maybe weren't you know, they didn't.

1531
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: The tests on the rocket didn't go as well as

1532
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 4: they could have.

1533
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 7: But this one all went smoothly. It seems like everything's

1534
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 7: going good so far. And yeah, they're less than a

1535
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 7: day from the back side of the moon.

1536
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 4: Now let me ask you a big question, Dean Rigus.

1537
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 4: Are there aliens?

1538
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 3: I don't mean the illegal type from Nicaragua, I mean

1539
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: are we alone in the universe. Are there Donald Trump

1540
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 3: seems to imply there is. We got all hell breaking

1541
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 3: loose in Iran. I don't know what's going to happen

1542
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: Monday night, Tuesday, Wednesday. Do aliens UFOs exist? You know,

1543
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 3: that is a big question. That's a question we've been

1544
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: asking for a long time.

1545
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 7: And I do have to say I'm a little disappointed

1546
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 7: that President Trump has not released the files like he

1547
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 7: said he was going to. I thought he said he

1548
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,480
Speaker 7: was going to do a day one of his administration.

1549
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 7: We're still waiting for the UFO files. But my thought

1550
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 7: is that there aren't any UFO files to really release.

1551
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 7: I think that there's been you know, the whole idea

1552
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 7: of UFOs in the sky. I've not seen one real

1553
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 7: credible report, one really credible video of something that's unexplainable.

1554
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 7: So for me, I don't think aliens are visiting us,

1555
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 7: at least we don't have any evidence of it.

1556
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 4: I think that.

1557
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 7: The things that are happening, I mean, I've been to

1558
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 7: the outskirts of Area fifty one and the Nevada Desert.

1559
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 7: You can't cross over, you'll get arrested immediately. But I'm

1560
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 7: pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that what's going on in

1561
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 7: Area fifty one is they're just testing out aircraft because

1562
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 7: I could hear the engines going at night, and they

1563
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 7: just don't want you to go see what engines they're making,

1564
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 7: So I don't think which makes a lot of sense,

1565
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 7: and so they're But I know a lot of people

1566
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 7: have seen things. I know a lot of people have

1567
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 7: made videos of things and pictures. But I that was

1568
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 7: one of the things that I would get reports from people,

1569
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 7: and not one of them have I seen that's been credible.

1570
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 4: So I don't think that.

1571
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 7: They're in our neighborhood. But boy, do I believe they're

1572
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 7: out there somewhere. The universe is just too big. I

1573
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 7: think the aliens are out there and maybe we'll find

1574
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 7: them someday.

1575
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 3: As far as going to Mars, the goal is to

1576
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 3: get to Mars. I've heard some say that's impossible, it'll

1577
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 3: never happen, it's dangerous. Dean Reguz, do you think in

1578
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: your lifetime or mind we're going.

1579
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 4: To go to Mars? I do believe we will.

1580
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 7: I think I think that there's the ability is there

1581
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 7: to do it. We have the technology, we have to

1582
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 7: know how, we have the will to do it. It's

1583
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 7: there's a money aspect to it, and there is a

1584
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 7: danger and risk element to it. And I think that's

1585
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 7: the thing is is it too risky to do? And

1586
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 7: that's the big It's it's more of a moral question

1587
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 7: than a than an ethical question, more than the technological question,

1588
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 7: because you know, we could send somebody to Mars right now.

1589
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 7: It's just a matter of what they make it alive

1590
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 7: because of radiation in route is the biggest factor. It's

1591
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 7: not weightlessness, it's not food and water and air, it's

1592
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 7: their radiation exposure. And that's something that we have to

1593
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 7: figure out if we're going to be able to do

1594
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 7: these long space missions.

1595
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 4: But then you've got to have all the systems working.

1596
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 7: So that's that's my hope with these Artemis missions is

1597
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 7: that we're doing a dress rehearsal for Mars closer to home.

1598
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 4: I mean, going to the going to the.

1599
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 7: Moon in a ten day journey is quite a big

1600
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 7: you know, I mean it's something we haven't done in

1601
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 7: fifty years. But going to Mars is a seven month,

1602
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 7: one way journey, and that's a whole different ballpark.

1603
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 3: So one's like the minor leagues, ones like the All

1604
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: Star ur Stalar team and to go to Mars is

1605
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 3: I've seen the movie and it's a wonderful movie. I

1606
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 3: like the movie, but so how many it takes six

1607
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 3: or seven months to get there, and then you hit

1608
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 3: everything position ahead of time, and if there's a difficulty,

1609
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 3: you're on your own. You're gonna die. And then coming

1610
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 3: back we're talking about a two to three year process, correct.

1611
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing is.

1612
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 7: And because everything's moving, so the Earth's going around the Sun,

1613
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 7: Mars is going around the Sun different different speeds.

1614
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 4: So by the time you get to March seven.

1615
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 7: Months, you have to wait on the planet for a

1616
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 7: year for the Earth to come back around in position,

1617
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 7: and then six seven months back home. So yeah, twenty

1618
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 7: six months is a brown trip, is what we're looking

1619
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 7: at right now, versus ten days for the moon. So

1620
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 7: I always like to ask people, you know, I think,

1621
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 7: think to yourself, would you go on a free ten

1622
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 7: day trip to the moon, a free two year journey

1623
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 7: to Mars?

1624
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 4: The whole different thing.

1625
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: Well, I saw the movie Matt Damon the Martian. He

1626
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: made it back without too much difficulty one last time.

1627
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: As I sit here in a studio in Cincinnati, Ohio,

1628
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 3: how fast? How fast is my body now moving without

1629
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 3: me knowing? How fast am I moving?

1630
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is such an incredible thing. You know, we're

1631
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 4: all moving through space.

1632
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 7: You know, the Earth is this moving moving home for us,

1633
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 7: and we are on the surface of this giant ball

1634
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 7: that's spending at least in Cincinnati, we're spending about eight

1635
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 7: hundred miles an hour to make a twenty four hour spin,

1636
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 7: you know, to go around one time to make day

1637
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 7: and night right, not moving about eight hundred miles an hour.

1638
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 7: I don't feel it, so not too shabby, not too shabby,

1639
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 7: because you know, the building's moving, the studios moving, the

1640
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 7: air is moving. It looks like you're in a car

1641
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 7: with the window up. That's what it feels like, as

1642
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 7: you're going on a very smooth highway. And then the

1643
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 7: Earth itself now is moving around the Sun at around

1644
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 7: sixty six thousand miles an hour to make that big

1645
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 7: journey around the Sun once every year. And then our

1646
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 7: solar system's moving around the Milky Way at hundreds of

1647
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 7: thousands of miles an hour. And then our Milky way's

1648
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 7: moving through space too. Oh, this is getting deep, Bill,

1649
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 7: I don't know. We're flying all over the place. So

1650
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 7: I'm going eight hundred miles an hour. The Art's moving,

1651
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 7: and the Earth itself is going sixty six thousand miles

1652
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 7: an hour around the Sun yep. And then the whole

1653
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 7: Solar system and the universe is going hundreds of thousands

1654
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 7: of miles an hour.

1655
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 4: Is that correct? Yep?

1656
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so and then that's all moving and the

1657
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 7: universe expanding. And this is why it's so so hard

1658
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 7: to send people the Moon, because the Earth is spinning

1659
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 7: and we're moving and the Moon's moving. And one of

1660
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 7: the neat things about this mission to the Moon is

1661
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 7: that they're kind of in this straight line out from

1662
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 7: the Earth that they they they kind of left and

1663
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 7: the Moon is moving around us, and so they're aimed

1664
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 7: at this point that the Moon's going to run into them. Basically,

1665
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 7: that's what they're waiting for the Moon to run into them.

1666
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 7: That's what's kind of happening here.

1667
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 3: And one on the dark side of the Moon. When

1668
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 3: the four astronauts get there, there'll be out of touch

1669
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 3: for several hours. I would anticipate is that the farthest

1670
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 3: human beings have ever traveled. Yeah, so they're going to

1671
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 3: go past the Moon.

1672
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 7: Actually, they're going to go out much farther than any

1673
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 7: of the other Apollo.

1674
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 4: Missions did because they're going to do this kind of it's.

1675
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 7: Called a free return mission where they kind of go

1676
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 7: around the Moon and let the Moon's gravity sling shot

1677
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 7: them around, so it saves a lot on fuel.

1678
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 4: They don't have to kick on the engines very much.

1679
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 7: The Moon's gravity will sling them back around, but they

1680
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 7: have to go pretty far out, so they will be

1681
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 7: the farthest humans.

1682
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: Ever and go to that far side of the Moon.

1683
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, the NASA said that they think the contact will

1684
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 7: be lost for about thirty to fifty minutes for on

1685
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 7: that back side of the Moon. But right now they're

1686
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 7: getting and yeah, they're going to be coming around the

1687
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 7: side and they're going to get views of that far

1688
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 7: side of the Moon that no human has seen in

1689
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 7: since nineteen seventy two.

1690
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 4: So it's going to be real exciting tomorrow.

1691
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: I wish him well, it'll be great and splash down

1692
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 3: at the end of the week. Dean Rigas, once again,

1693
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 3: this is fabulous Star Trek, Star Wars stuff is happening,

1694
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 3: and Dean Regas, Astronomer to the Stars, thanks for coming

1695
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 3: on the Bill Cunningham show, and Dean, you're a great American.

1696
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I always happy to be with

1697
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 4: you guys.

1698
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 7: Godspeed to our astronauts, and keep looking up.

1699
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 3: Keep your feet on the ground, but reach for the stars.

1700
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 3: Dean Regus, thank you very much. Let's continue with the more.

1701
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday By Billy Cunningham, the

1702
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Great American. I don't know about you. I can't grasp

1703
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 3: the idea of me and you right now going eight

1704
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour. I can't grasp that. I can't

1705
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 3: grasp the idea somehow we're traveling. That is the Earth

1706
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 3: around the Sun. It's going about eight thousand miles an hour.

1707
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 3: I can't grasp that. And the Milky Way in our

1708
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 3: universe is the Milky Way A constellation is heading toward

1709
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 3: out in the universe at one hundreds of thousand miles

1710
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: an hour. I can't understand that. I think most of

1711
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 3: us told. Do you understand that? I don't understand. It's

1712
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 3: good to have on Dean Reguez to talk about. Let's

1713
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 3: continue with more coming up next to Jeff crue Air

1714
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: from New Orleans about the dangers of the Republican Party

1715
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 3: politically and what about Jeffrey Epstein. Not heard from him

1716
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 3: quite a while. So well, Jeff Krueir is one of

1717
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: my favorite. We'll be calling in for New Orleans. We

1718
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 3: hope Goill cunning Him the Great American with you and

1719
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 3: all great Americans every sumthing, Bill.

1720
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 4: Cunningham, the Great American. Of course.

1721
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Jeff krue Air, headquartered in New Orleans, has a great

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Speaker 3: column out on town hall dot com. If Republicans are divided,

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01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 3: Democrats will conquer, and he also has several columns, one

1724
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 3: about the Jeffrey Epstein's race is ugily had. Again for

1725
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 3: some reason, Warren Buffett the Oracle and Nebraska kind of

1726
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: wants to of Omaha wants to talk about the Epstein case,

1727
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 3: which is always a bad look. But nonetheless, Jeff Career,

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01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,799
Speaker 3: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Your first sentence

1729
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 3: is this since nineteen fifty, by the way, that during

1730
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: the Truman years, the average midterm election loss for the

1731
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 3: incumbent president's political party has been twenty five seats on average.

1732
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 3: But you say it may be worse for Republicans this time.

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01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 3: Explain your thinking on that. You say they could lose

1734
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 3: sixty to seventy seats and likely to Senate. Please explain

1735
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 3: that to the American people.

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Speaker 12: Well, they are two things, Bill, and thanks for having me.

1737
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,959
Speaker 12: One is, Republicans are divided right now, Maggot is divided.

1738
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 12: Republicans need to unify. And if the Republicans are not unified,

1739
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 12: you're not going to have the dates turning out in

1740
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,799
Speaker 12: big numbers. They haven't been turning out in special elections.

1741
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 12: Democrats have won all all of them. So that's one

1742
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 12: factor that's a problem. And the other factor of courses.

1743
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 12: We talk about history, it's just a natural cycle of politics.

1744
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 12: You have one party in power getting comfortable, getting fat

1745
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 12: and happy. The other party is eager as anxious, is motivated.

1746
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 12: They get their people out there so they win the

1747
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 12: midterm election. And that's happened throughout history. And people vote

1748
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 12: their pocketbook bill, they vote the economy. The economy is

1749
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 12: a number one issue. It always is in elections. And

1750
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,759
Speaker 12: we've got gas prices that have surged in the past

1751
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 12: a few weeks. People are feeling strained economically. That's not

1752
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 12: a good thing when they go to the polls if

1753
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 12: you're a Republican.

1754
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Speaker 3: In fact, even the president's home district to mar A

1755
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 3: lago A week or so ago, had a big election

1756
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 3: and the Democrat beat the Republican in a Florida state

1757
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 3: House race by two or three percentage points. And that

1758
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 3: particular district voted for Trump by plus eighteen and you

1759
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 3: lose by two that's a twenty percent turnaround. And the

1760
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 3: brand of Donald Trump has been always will be the

1761
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 3: economy and no foreign wars. Because the foreign wars, whether

1762
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: it's Vietnam or whether Iraq Orghanistan, has caused a frigging

1763
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: fortune and including seven thousand dead soldiers and about fifty

1764
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 3: thousand wounded to the cost of trillions of dollars. Get

1765
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 3: the Taliban out of Afghanistan. They're now in charge. Get

1766
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 3: the Islamic extremists out of Iraq. Now they're back in charge.

1767
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Speaker 3: And now Heran's another issue completely. So when you have

1768
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 3: about a third of MEGA says, wait a minute, the

1769
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 3: economy is Trump's brand?

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Speaker 4: How we looking? And secondly, no foreign wars?

1771
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 3: How we looking? The answer is not good. And you

1772
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 3: have many like Tucker Carlson, etc. Has gone after Trump

1773
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 3: and the Jews with hooks and claws. A large chunk

1774
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 3: of the thinking of the MEGA movement.

1775
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 4: Has been what are you doing? Why are you doing this?

1776
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Speaker 4: And also Jeff Crer, I would say this.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, Donald Trump was out the zenith

1778
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 3: of his political power. He was out of office, but

1779
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 3: he was a victim of repeated wrongful state and federal prosecutions.

1780
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Speaker 3: He was running against first Joe Biden, for God's sakes,

1781
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 3: then ran against Kamala Harris, who had to be the

1782
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 3: worst candidate to run for the presidency ever. She was terrible,

1783
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 3: and Joe Biden was supporting her. He was in a wheelchair.

1784
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 3: God bless him. He was in bad shape. The best

1785
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 3: Trump could do in that environment was get forty nine

1786
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Speaker 3: point eight percent of the vote.

1787
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Speaker 4: So right, the majority of the American people in that

1788
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 4: environment didn't want Trump.

1789
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 3: And I voted for him three times. Hell, I'd vote

1790
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Speaker 3: for him four times. But I'm not normal. I'm not

1791
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 3: the normal American.

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Speaker 4: Believe. I don't care much what he says. I care

1793
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Speaker 4: what he does.

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Speaker 12: Your comment, No, I mean, he summed it up very

1795
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 12: well a lot of times what he's saying. As far

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01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 12: as negotiations, that's sort of the art of the deal.

1797
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 12: So we don't really know what's going on. As far

1798
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 12: as Iran, it could be part of a bluff. That

1799
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 12: could be just what he's telling the world, But behind

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01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 12: the scenes, other things are happening.

1801
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Speaker 5: Actions speak louder than everything.

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Speaker 12: And you're right, he did campaign on two things, you know,

1803
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Speaker 12: getting the economy straight, three things, securing.

1804
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 5: The border and of course no foreign wars.

1805
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 12: And up until Iran, everything that he's done has been

1806
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 12: lightning quick. You know, he got Solamani, got our bag, Daddy,

1807
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 12: the mother of all bombs, very took out isis was

1808
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 12: you know, extracted Maduro in a millisecond and all of

1809
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 12: that happened quickly.

1810
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 5: Bombing this is different.

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Speaker 12: You know, this has been now, you know, five weeks,

1812
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Speaker 12: and he continues on. And I think there's an understandable concern.

1813
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 12: You mentioned the rock in Afghanistan. We had about I

1814
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 12: think about nine ten thousand dead in those two wars

1815
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 12: Vietnam fifty eight thousand. You know, those were all lost

1816
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 12: decades where Americans spent trillions of dollars and we didn't

1817
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 12: accomplish our goals. And there's justifiably concern about this turning

1818
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 12: into a never ending war. So the best thing for

1819
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 12: the president, the best thing for the country, the best

1820
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 12: thing for the Republican Party is if this end quickly.

1821
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Speaker 5: You know, we've already degraded them.

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Speaker 12: We've already eliminated their nuclear threat, We've elimited their air force,

1823
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 12: we've limitated their navy. They're certainly degraded tremendously. And I

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01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 12: don't want to see ground troops. I'm the same as

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01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 12: Nancy Mays, as Eli Crane, as so many others. Only

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01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,799
Speaker 12: seven percent of Americans want ground troops there in Iran.

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Speaker 12: So that would be something that would just enter a

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Speaker 12: whole new phase. It would take longer, it would be unpopular,

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01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 12: it would again take the focus off the economy.

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Speaker 5: The of course, you know, price of oil is continuing

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01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 5: to go higher.

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Speaker 12: Gasoline prices are way up, and that's going to affect politically,

1833
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 12: and that could turn into a toxic political environment that

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01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 12: we're going to be facing.

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Speaker 5: So the sooner this wraps up.

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Speaker 12: The better for the political prospects and for the economy,

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01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 12: and I think for the country, no question.

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Speaker 3: And look at it this way, that if this thing

1839
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 3: is in the summertime, in the two hundred and fiftieth

1840
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 3: anniversary of the country July the fourth, and if we

1841
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 3: have still if we have soldiers fighting and dying on

1842
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 3: the battlefields, of Iran and we have a resurgent guerrilla

1843
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 3: tactics being used by the religious fanatics, and they don't

1844
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 3: want to live, they want to die. In fact, during

1845
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 3: the Iran Iraqi War, they would bundle children, put the

1846
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 3: keys to heaven around their neck, five, six, seven, nine,

1847
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 3: ten year old kids, put the scarves on their forehead,

1848
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 3: walk into minefields to blow themselves up, and the mothers

1849
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 3: and fathers in Iran gave permission. And the course, the

1850
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Atola who was raised and taught in France before he

1851
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: returned back in nineteen seventy nine, the religious leaders in

1852
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 3: Iran during the Iraqi War, which took ten years to conclude,

1853
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 3: would use children as walking detectors of land mines, and

1854
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 3: the parents would watch their children be blown up by

1855
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 3: a land mine and the key's to have one was

1856
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 3: around their neck, and the religious leaders.

1857
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Speaker 4: Of Iran thought that was okay. That is the mentality

1858
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Speaker 4: we're dealing.

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Speaker 12: With, and it goes on today. I mean they're using

1860
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 12: twelve year olds as soldiers. I mean the same sort

1861
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 12: of mentality. They believe that dying for the cause gets

1862
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 12: them to heaven. You're right, So, I mean we're talking

1863
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 12: about a mentality that ninety nine point nine percent of

1864
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 12: Americans can't even comprehend. So yeah, it would be I think,

1865
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 12: very bloody. I don't think it would be something that

1866
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 12: would be quick. No, it is going to be something

1867
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 12: that I think the American people are I mean, we've

1868
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 12: never had a quote unquote war where the popularity has

1869
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 12: been as low as it is now going into it.

1870
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 12: Normally what happens is going to a war, it's very popular,

1871
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 12: and then over time the popularity declines as people see

1872
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 12: that it's going on and on.

1873
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 5: This was never popular from day one.

1874
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Speaker 12: So I don't be the prospects turning around as far

1875
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 12: as the popularity of the American people.

1876
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 3: You end up your column in town Hall, Jeff Career

1877
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 3: by saying Republicans who re unite if they understand the

1878
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 3: radical Democratic agenda and the urgent need to prevent them

1879
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 3: from taking power again. The Democratic agenda when you look

1880
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 3: at what they're doing in the cities, what they're doing

1881
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,959
Speaker 3: on border issues, what they're doing with the government shutdown,

1882
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 3: what they're doing with their public school systems. I mean,

1883
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 3: you're in New Orleans, I'm in Cincinnati. In Cincinnati, about

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01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 3: forty six percent of children are chronically absent from school.

1885
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 3: By the way, in Chicago, that number seventy six percent

1886
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 3: of Chicago public school kids are chronically absent from school

1887
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 3: seventy six percent, And I assume in New Orleans the

1888
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 3: numbers are similar, in which the public school system run

1889
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:45,440
Speaker 3: by the Democrats are completely dysfunctional, defund the police, completely dysfunctional,

1890
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 3: border issues, completely dysfunctional, so called transgender issues, sexual mutilation

1891
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 3: of children's bodies, totally dysfunctional. And we have large cities

1892
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 3: like yours. Fortunately you're in a red state. I'm in Cincinnati,

1893
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 3: a blue city in a red state, which serves as

1894
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 3: a governor to the predilections of the city leaders. But

1895
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 3: if you're in Illinois, New York, California, and you're a

1896
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 3: blue city in the blue state, Katie bar the door,

1897
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 3: the radical Democratic agenda will be imposed. And that's what's

1898
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 3: at stake this November, because the last two years of

1899
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 3: Trump's term is going to be a total disaster.

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Speaker 4: A total disaster.

1901
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 5: Here's what it's going to be.

1902
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 12: Impeachments, investigations, hearings, obstruction, chaos. It'll be Yeah, you're exactly right,

1903
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 12: it will be a total disaster. And we have got

1904
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 12: to do everything we can to make sure that that

1905
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 12: doesn't happen. So the best way to unify is to

1906
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 12: focus on this opposition in the crazed agenda that they have,

1907
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 12: and they say, hey, we cannot allow that to happen.

1908
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 12: We can't allow them to take power because it will

1909
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 12: destroy the country. I'm just worried that that's the path

1910
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 12: we're on. Let me give you another example. Marjorie Taylor

1911
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 12: Green's district in Georgia. They're talking about a Democrat at

1912
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 12: winning that seat that is a hard red conservative district.

1913
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 12: She resigned. Now there's a special election, So I mean

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01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 12: Republicans are hanging on by a threat. As it is now,

1915
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 12: it's two seventeen to two fourteen in the Congress, with

1916
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 12: some special elections and one guy who's now an independent.

1917
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 12: So it's very very very worrisome, Bill, very worse.

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Speaker 3: Lastly, you have a great column about the Epstein mystery

1919
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 3: takes a new turn the Warren Buffett interview. It wasn't

1920
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 3: a good look for him. What strange turn did the

1921
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 3: Epstein mystery take?

1922
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I think as more information comes out,

1923
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 12: I think we have to come to the realization in

1924
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 12: my view, that he was murdered Okay, I think it

1925
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 12: is accumulation of the evidence. We've seen more video that's

1926
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 12: come out, more information about these the prison guards cash

1927
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 12: that they were depositing, the fancy cars that they were driving.

1928
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 12: You know, they they supposedly weren't doing their job, but

1929
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 12: somehow money showed up in their account. And you know,

1930
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 12: a blob, an orange blob on the side of the

1931
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 12: video going up to his wing in the prison. All

1932
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 12: these questions that are accumulating now, and then, of course

1933
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 12: plenty of people had motivation to see him be killed.

1934
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 12: And then I always go back to Michael Boden, the

1935
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 12: forensic pathologists, he's the experts on twenty thousand autopsies, said

1936
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 12: the injuries are aligned with a homicide, not a suicide.

1937
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 12: So I believe as more evidence comes out, we've got

1938
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 12: to come to the realization that that could very well

1939
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 12: have been a murder.

1940
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 3: So someone could have gone into his prison cell, choked

1941
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 3: him with a choked him to death using the death

1942
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 3: grip that I've seen, and then position the body to

1943
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 3: make it look as if he hung himself.

1944
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 4: Hey hung himself from that I'm a bed. Is that

1945
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: the most likely scenario? You believe?

1946
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 11: Right?

1947
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 12: That's what they say, although the news that was used

1948
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 12: couldn't be located. And then of course they did have

1949
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 12: cameras and other parts of the prison, but the ones

1950
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 12: right outside of his cell were conveniently not working. So yeah,

1951
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,480
Speaker 12: I mean, from the guards, to the video, to the injuries.

1952
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 12: The brother doesn't think he committed suicide, Glee Maxwell doesn't

1953
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 12: think he committed suicide. Every time we turn around, we're

1954
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 12: getting new information about this Epstein case.

1955
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 5: It is the case that will not go away.

1956
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 3: Built lastly, the prison guards assigned to Epstein Tova Tova

1957
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 3: Noel and Michael Thomas Tova Noel and I've seen her.

1958
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 4: She looks like a winner.

1959
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 3: And there were cash deposits that helped Noel purchase a

1960
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 3: sixty two thousand dollars twenty nineteen land Rover Range, an

1961
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 3: expensive vehicle. Her salary was fifty two thousand dollars, means

1962
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 3: she took on thirty six thousand, and there were huge

1963
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 3: cash deposits into her account that allow her to buy

1964
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 3: a brand new Range Rover that's a Tiger Woods car.

1965
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 4: Where'd that money come from?

1966
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 12: Well, that's what inquiring minds want to know. I mean,

1967
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 12: how in the world could she afford that on the

1968
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 12: salary she was making.

1969
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 5: I mean, who was paying her?

1970
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 12: Who were these cash deposits from. Why hadn't we delved

1971
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 12: into this before? I mean, why are we just finding

1972
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 12: out this information now? Why woman been questioned about this before? So,

1973
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 12: I mean it's just not only confidence, but I think

1974
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 12: there's some people that haven't really wanted to get to

1975
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 12: the bottom of this for quite a while. So yeah,

1976
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 12: we need to keep the pressure on. We've got to

1977
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 12: get to the truth. And kudos to James Comer. At

1978
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 12: least he's trying to having these hearings. At least he's

1979
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 12: trying to get some information out.

1980
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 3: You conclude by saying the Miami Herald quote as a

1981
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 3: result of his cell was never considered a possible crime

1982
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 3: scene that would, under circumstances, be examined by experienced criminal

1983
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 3: and forensic experts. You would take fingerprints, blood samples, and

1984
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 3: other evidens. One thing they got lost was that piece

1985
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 3: of fabric that Epstein allegedly used to hang himself was

1986
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 3: never identified. And so instead instead of the authorities in

1987
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 3: New York City saying, no, wait a minute, did he

1988
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 3: kill himself or not, let's treat this as a crime scene.

1989
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 4: They did none of that.

1990
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 3: In fact, they got rid of some of the evidence,

1991
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: including the piece of fabric he hung himself with.

1992
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's exactly right. So it's never truly investigated. I mean,

1993
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 12: it was never truly investigated, and I mean missing evidence.

1994
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 12: We could go on and on about all the problems

1995
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 12: with this case, but I remember Bill Barr rushing forward

1996
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 12: and saying immediately right after it occurred, oh yes, it

1997
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:34,480
Speaker 12: was a suicide.

1998
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 5: Oh no, I think we got questions.

1999
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 12: So, you know, just continue, we need to continue to

2000
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 12: keep the pressure on that we need the truth out

2001
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 12: about this. And of course all the people that his

2002
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 12: network harmed, all the people that were involved, we haven't

2003
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 12: had any prosecutions of these people. At least in Europe,

2004
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 12: they're doing something, were some of the people that were

2005
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,440
Speaker 12: Epstein associates.

2006
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 5: But here the only one who's been in prison is

2007
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 5: Glean Maxwell.

2008
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 3: Correction officer tells the FBI the quote, I've never seen

2009
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 3: so many bags of shredded documents putting the dumpster at

2010
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 3: the rear gate of the prison. The bags of documents

2011
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 3: were shredded and removed before federal agents reviewed the documents.

2012
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: They were simply discarded thrown away and putting the garbage quickly,

2013
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 3: and the whole thing smells well. Jeff Creuer, thanks for

2014
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 3: coming on. But the clarion call is out there because

2015
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 3: this country could slip into real socialism.

2016
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 10: Mom.

2017
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 3: Donnie's election could be a predictor of the future. And

2018
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 3: if that's the future of our country, you and I

2019
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 3: need to go to Costa Rica, maybe breed Comodo dragons.

2020
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 4: We need to get the hail out. We'll see what happens.

2021
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 5: We can't go to Europe, Bill, because they're already ruined

2022
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 5: that place.

2023
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 11: You're right, no.

2024
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 3: Question, Jeff crueir New Orleans. You're a great American. Thanks

2025
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 3: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Jeff.

2026
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 3: You Bill cunning Him the Great American. Live with you

2027
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 3: every Sunday night. Bhi, Billy cunning Him, the great American.

2028
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening tonight. The next two to three days

2029
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 3: should be extremely interesting. The President said, in the rather

2030
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: profane use of the F bomb this morning that in

2031
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,719
Speaker 3: the next forty eight hours, which is either a Monday

2032
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 3: night or Tuesday, that the Iranians must strike a deal,

2033
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 3: and if not, all hell's going to break loose. As

2034
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 3: you may know of said this before. There's a thousand

2035
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 3: targets in Iran untouched, largely their bridges and their water

2036
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 3: plants and communications centers and oil drilling platforms, oil drilling,

2037
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 3: et cetera, which is the heart and soul of the

2038
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 3: Iranian economy. The president is saying that if you don't

2039
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 3: strike a deal, this thing's got in at some point.

2040
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 3: Hell it's been five weeks at this point, that those

2041
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 3: thousand targets will be taken care of, that all travel

2042
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 3: within Iran will stop. You can imagine if you live

2043
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 3: in an area measure there's no bridges over the river

2044
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 3: or any bay. Imagine, there's no water that can be

2045
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 3: no postable water that can be drunk, drunk, and measure

2046
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:50,759
Speaker 3: there's no communication whatsoever. There's no electricity, there's no power.

2047
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 3: And that is something I think the Iranian leadership itself

2048
01:52:55,600 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 3: now would find acceptable, because somehow there's suiside, homicidal and genocidal,

2049
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 3: and so the Irunian people would be left in a

2050
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 3: terrible circumstance brought about by the behavior of the running government.

2051
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 4: And I also would point out this morning, during.

2052
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 3: Many of the Sunday morning interviews, the Democratic senators were

2053
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 3: lying about this being some ilegal war, it is not

2054
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 3: clearly it's within the dictates of the War Powers Act.

2055
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,799
Speaker 3: And secondly that they looked almost sad that the American pilot,

2056
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 3: the lieutenant colonel, was located and his position was known

2057
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 3: for the last day and a half as Heseth and

2058
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 3: Trump and others followed him to make sure no one

2059
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 3: got close to him.

2060
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 4: It was a brilliant military maneuver.

2061
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,640
Speaker 3: By watching some of the Sunday morning talk shows that

2062
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 3: looked as if the Democrats were sad, there was a

2063
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 3: great success. So by the time you night but get

2064
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 3: back together next Sunday night, something should be more clear.

2065
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 3: This war is going to go one direction of the other.

2066
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 3: And I want America to win. I want America always

2067
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,799
Speaker 3: to win. And I don't like it when any American

2068
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 3: wants America to lose, and I fear the implication is

2069
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 3: that many on the radical left went America to lose

2070
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 3: because they went to get a dollad Trump by any

2071
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 3: means necessary. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, Thanks for listening.

2072
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.