Speaker 1: Don't want to be going to that abound seven hundred
Speaker 1: dollars all that will be welcome to it. You know,
Speaker 1: I am sick to the trade. Only first on the
Speaker 1: radio station that actually is a blue collar kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Everyone else sits on and you know they really suese people.
Speaker 1: It's a stupid job. I sit in here and talk
Speaker 1: to myself for three hours. I have no idea if
Speaker 1: you're listening, and then why I'm not here. I'm doing
Speaker 1: the constructor light itself, you know, remodeling, and I rentals
Speaker 1: and things like that. So I love the trades and
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about it, and I love getting people in
Speaker 1: industry and manufacturing and things like that. So that's I'm
Speaker 1: excited when I saw this story. A thirty one million
Speaker 1: dollar advanced manufacturing workforce and innovation hub is going in
Speaker 1: in Hamilton. It's if you know the old Champion Paper
Speaker 1: building is, it's located there. It's like three hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand square feet. It's it's incredible the scope
Speaker 1: of this, and it's Butler Tech. It's Ohio mean jobs,
Speaker 1: Butler County and our friends at Miami University are all
Speaker 1: teaming up to do this project because Ohio every year
Speaker 1: we generate something like one hundred and forty billion dollars annually.
Speaker 1: Seven hundred thousand jobs in Ohio are in what's called
Speaker 1: a m when you hear AM hub, that's advanced manufacturing hub,
Speaker 1: and we want more of those jobs here. Ohi's in
Speaker 1: the top five. We want to be number one. And
Speaker 1: one of the people behind this is the president of
Speaker 1: the Miami University, Gregory Crawford. Mister president, Good morning, how
Speaker 1: are you? Thanks for having me. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever had a president and studio of anything before.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna be the first. This is hollowed ground. Hey,
Speaker 1: good to have you here on the show this morning.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, i'd be remiss if
Speaker 1: by to take congratulations to your basketball team.
Speaker 2: I know our men's team is undefeated and our women
Speaker 2: is undefeated in the MAC and hockey teams really.
Speaker 1: Doing super well too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're all excited about Red Hawk athletics.
Speaker 1: I know I'm sick for hockey and Coffe's college basketball too.
Speaker 1: So Miami it's always a fun place to go and
Speaker 1: watch games as well, and so congratulations for that. By
Speaker 1: the way, you are the hope that of all Cincinnati
Speaker 1: right now, because all the rest of our teams here
Speaker 1: are terrible. So we are like totally leaning into Miami
Speaker 1: University Athletics right now. You hope. We love the attention.
Speaker 1: I know you do. Let's get into you'll hear the
Speaker 1: term am AT today. AM hub. We have AM and
Speaker 1: it means advanced manufacturing. People here that go what exactly
Speaker 1: is advanced manufacturing?
Speaker 2: So advanced manufacturing utilizes the state of the art equipment
Speaker 2: and technology, and furthermore, it's leverages data science and artificial
Speaker 2: intelligence and cybersecurity and the digital side of it as well.
Speaker 2: And so our Advanced Manufacturing Hub is bringing that all
Speaker 2: together for training for students that can do certificates, they
Speaker 2: can do associate degrees or bachelor's degrees.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's another one too. It's called additive manufacturing,
Speaker 1: which is three D.
Speaker 2: Right, it's three D manufacturing, Yeah, and so it can
Speaker 2: be One example would be a polymer that you program
Speaker 2: it in it keeps layering the polymer down until it
Speaker 2: gives you a great object that you're trying to design.
Speaker 1: Right right, this is the future of you know, machine
Speaker 1: shops used to be these greasy places and now it's
Speaker 1: like a computer lab where you have to it's clean
Speaker 1: rooms and white white lab coats, and even more so
Speaker 1: with three D printing. And so if you think this
Speaker 1: is these are the manufacturing jobs of old where you're
Speaker 1: in a factory and it's awful and you know, giant
Speaker 1: presses are smashing your body parts, It's like, that's not
Speaker 1: the way it is anymore because it's very it's super
Speaker 1: high tech.
Speaker 2: It's really impressive.
Speaker 1: And what of these do you know the top of
Speaker 1: your head? With these jobs typically pay, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: The graduates of engineering technology can start off in the
Speaker 2: sixty to seventy thousand dollars range. This depending whether your
Speaker 2: mechanical technology or computer technology or electoral technology. And so
Speaker 2: there tend to be well paying jobs. They are in
Speaker 2: demand and the employers are looking for that talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and then that's the thing too, is
Speaker 1: we have this in Ohio, this unique strategic advantage that
Speaker 1: most other states don't have. Right, we have that geographic
Speaker 1: position in Cincinnati is the heart of the country, right,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle in the valley of that. We
Speaker 1: also have infrastructure that's already in place, be it rail roads,
Speaker 1: an Automotive Corridor. We have aerospace here in southwest Ohio,
Speaker 1: and so all those things come together and it's really
Speaker 1: attractive for businesses. The only missing piece, of course, is
Speaker 1: workforce regular labor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, work for development is super important for Ohio and
Speaker 2: any time they're trying to recruit a company to Ohio,
Speaker 2: it comes down to talent, talent and talent. And so
Speaker 2: we believe Butler Tech and Miami University and all our
Speaker 2: partners Ohio means Jobs. The Butler County Commissioners and the
Speaker 2: City of Hamilton believe we can pull this off and
Speaker 2: deliver the talent that this state needs to attract those companies.
Speaker 1: Okay, so take me through it. Let's say somebody wants
Speaker 1: to get into this program. What is their day like,
Speaker 1: what is their life like?
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, So there's all kinds of entry level points.
Speaker 2: So we collaborate with the phenomenal Career Tech High School
Speaker 2: and there we coexist together, but it's much more integrated
Speaker 2: in that building. So Butler Tech is there, and so
Speaker 2: students can graduate with the high school diploma with the
Speaker 2: workforce development in manufacturing, and then if they wish, they
Speaker 2: can do a certificate at the manufacturing Hubay, they can
Speaker 2: do an associate degree a bachelor's degree, and so the
Speaker 2: education is very hands on. And so if a student's
Speaker 2: looking to do experiential learning, to get in there and learn,
Speaker 2: I doing improve with practice and growth experience. It's the
Speaker 2: right sort of career choice that you can take and
Speaker 2: graduate with a great job. And you don't necessarily have
Speaker 2: to do all your degree all at once. You can
Speaker 2: come in, get a certificate, go work. Then the company
Speaker 2: can help pay for associate degree, go back, so we
Speaker 2: can cycle back all these you know, students that we're
Speaker 2: graduates and then get more advanced degrees as time goes on,
Speaker 2: and we work hand in hand with our employers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you, it's Butler Tech, it's Butler County
Speaker 1: and O High means jobs and so it's not just
Speaker 1: you know, engineering students for example at Miami University, it's
Speaker 1: also people to Butler Tech that are going to be
Speaker 1: the technicians in the field and even high schools. It
Speaker 1: sounds like as well, and you're you're encompassing all this.
Speaker 1: It's a multi generational kind of thing and multi multi
Speaker 1: practice kind of thing as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we're so excited to work with Butler Tech.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a phenomenal career tech high school. It's
Speaker 2: well known in Ohio but across the country, and we
Speaker 2: bring that together with the Miami brand, and then we
Speaker 2: have all the support of our partners through the Butler
Speaker 2: County Commissioner and Ohio Means Jobs in the city of Hamilton,
Speaker 2: and so it all kind of blended together in a
Speaker 2: great way. And we had to launch on Monday, and
Speaker 2: so we're off and going.
Speaker 1: I love this. Everything's up and running at this point.
Speaker 1: How many students that any one time can go through this.
Speaker 2: It's a very large building, and so there'll certainly be
Speaker 2: several hundred students in our Engineering technology program, and there'll
Speaker 2: be several hundred students that'll be from Butler Tech, and
Speaker 2: we'll kind of have that end to end, you know,
Speaker 2: the high school of the kids that'll be working a
Speaker 2: little bit with the students at Miami and vice versa.
Speaker 2: The Butler Tech students can also get college credit while
Speaker 2: they're there, and so they can accelerate an associate or
Speaker 2: a bachelor's degree and pay a lot less money for
Speaker 2: it when they're done because they can leverage the programs
Speaker 2: at Ohio and get it paid for it.
Speaker 1: I love how it also com mingles different different experiences
Speaker 1: and backgrounds, which is important at university like Miami President Crawford,
Speaker 1: but also younger people like it started. I'm guessing what
Speaker 1: ninth tenth grade this starts, and then you get on
Speaker 1: this track and then you're you know, working alongside or
Speaker 1: learning alongside I should say, students from my university. And
Speaker 1: so it's like this whole pipeline and when they graduate,
Speaker 1: they're ready to go with the workforce exactly.
Speaker 2: So we're super excited and we couldn't be more happy
Speaker 2: with our partners that came in to make this all happen,
Speaker 2: this vision of reality. And then I was super excited
Speaker 2: because it took about two years and you could see
Speaker 2: it progress. We were able with the Butler County Commissioner
Speaker 2: support and finance, we were able to get that building
Speaker 2: is already adjacent to our campus and touches it and
Speaker 2: so it broadened our campus out. But the building, if
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it as spectacular and the equipment is
Speaker 2: even more important.
Speaker 1: I have to see it in person at some point too,
Speaker 1: because I'm fast and I love that stuff, and I
Speaker 1: love advocating for it. He's a president of Miami University,
Speaker 1: doctor Gregor Crawford, and study this morning and talking about
Speaker 1: this new thirty one million dollar advanced Manufacturing hub in Hamilton,
Speaker 1: which is going to be a pipeline, a conduit for
Speaker 1: jobs here in Ohio. We have all these wonderful things.
Speaker 1: We've got proximity, we've got a location, we've got we've
Speaker 1: got a workforce ready to go, and it's bringing all
Speaker 1: these things together. And I don't often talk about you
Speaker 1: as you know, the struggles universities are are well known.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say, you know, you've hit
Speaker 1: a bubble, but you know your transition. Let's put it
Speaker 1: this is this the future of the way schools are
Speaker 1: going to go. Now where we're we're taking not just
Speaker 1: the you know, the halls of academia, but we're also going, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want hands on learning, experience and
Speaker 1: workforce ready, we're pairing that into one seamless operation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's actually works really well with our Hamilton campus
Speaker 2: and the degrees there that were really popular was Engineering,
Speaker 2: Technology and Commerce, which is the business degree there, and
Speaker 2: nursing and healthcare and so forth. So it really came
Speaker 2: into the vision with this manufacturing technology in a big way,
Speaker 2: and then we hit with Butler Tech and then off
Speaker 2: we go. And so I do think this experiential learning
Speaker 2: is something that students are looking for. And also when
Speaker 2: they graduate, you know, college is expensive, no question, they're
Speaker 2: looking for a great career to jump right in.
Speaker 1: And or or maybe it's the fact that like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to do college because it's so expensive college.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm college material, but I'll start
Speaker 1: here with this hands on and maybe it grows to
Speaker 1: the point where, like, you know what, I really want
Speaker 1: to be an engineer and then you go into the
Speaker 1: Beckelord program at Miami and you know, you know you're
Speaker 1: ready by that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's the pathway that they can follow
Speaker 2: as well. They can start at the manufacturing hob and
Speaker 2: if they want to go into you know, an engineering degree,
Speaker 2: they can transfer over to Miami and Oxford seamlessly and
Speaker 2: and you know, move their career ahead that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We're also going to see and I'm sure there
Speaker 1: is how many companies, how many manufacturing companies are behind this,
Speaker 1: because that's the motivator for them is, Hey, we invest
Speaker 1: in this. We've got a workforce already. We have a
Speaker 1: say basically in how these students are coming out of school.
Speaker 1: They're ready to learn as opposed to you know, you're
Speaker 1: the stories like, well now we've got to retrain them
Speaker 1: the right way because of what they learned is there's
Speaker 1: a disconnect. It sounds like this, this eliminates that. How
Speaker 1: many companies are involved in this process?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got thirty companies so far and it's an
Speaker 2: exciting cohort.
Speaker 1: And you're right.
Speaker 2: They work with us to think through the curricula and
Speaker 2: like what their talent needs if they hire them in
Speaker 2: their company. And so we get that first hand knowledge
Speaker 2: from our constituents and our stakehold holders, and so we
Speaker 2: brought them into the fold to help us think through
Speaker 2: what the next what the future curriculum looks like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Miami University is part of Miami Thrive. I
Speaker 1: keep seeing that pop up to what is that.
Speaker 2: Miami Thrive is the name of our brand new strategic plan.
Speaker 2: And so we've been at it and we just are
Speaker 2: now in the execution phase. We talked to more than
Speaker 2: two thousand people and stakeholders. We had more than two
Speaker 2: hundred that were involved in committee work, and we thought
Speaker 2: future back, so we ask ourselves, what do students want
Speaker 2: twenty thirty five and how do we prepare for that?
Speaker 2: We thought present forward, lots of challenges and hire ed
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, and so how do we stay robust?
Speaker 2: And then also we thought past fulfilling.
Speaker 1: What got us to this.
Speaker 2: Miami's been known for undergraduate education, the teacher scholar model.
Speaker 2: We have phenomenal faculty that do both very well, and
Speaker 2: we're really known for being student first, and we're never
Speaker 2: going to lose that piece of it. So we're moving
Speaker 2: into the future with some of the traditions that got
Speaker 2: us here and then thinking big about some of the
Speaker 2: new stuff that we'll be offering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how quickly from graduation or you get a certificate?
Speaker 1: Orders are you? Are you in the workforce the next
Speaker 1: day if you wanted to be. There's gonna be no
Speaker 1: problem to imagine matching people who graduate with a.
Speaker 2: Job, absolutely no problem. Yeah whatsoever? Yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 2: the next day. We may be embellishing a little bit there,
Speaker 2: but once they graduate and also working at the manufacturing hub,
Speaker 2: they're already knowing the companies who are going to want
Speaker 2: to hire that and so they'll have that in place,
Speaker 2: and so they may even have job offers long before
Speaker 2: they ground.
Speaker 1: They're fighting over the bodies. That's spine. It's going to
Speaker 1: be fought. It makes you feel you know, it validates
Speaker 1: your what you've done, what you've invested in. You're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: all these companies want to hire me. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And the better yar at what you do, have more
Speaker 1: money you're gonna make. So that's that's how it should work. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I love that Ohio meets Jobs is right there with
Speaker 1: you as well, and this whole step of the way
Speaker 1: where they're going to you know, place people in these
Speaker 1: and we're going to see more fan manufacturing wind up
Speaker 1: relocating to Ohio because of the set imagine.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, with the on storing and restoring taking
Speaker 2: place in the country and how important manufacturing has been
Speaker 2: in this country as a cornerstone and now going to
Speaker 2: the future with advanced manufacturing, smart manufacturing and all the
Speaker 2: AI that's taking place in manufacturing, we're ready to go.
Speaker 2: And so we want to recruit the talent to graduate
Speaker 2: and be a part of this industry and also recruit
Speaker 2: those companies to Ohio and make a stronger economy here.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the state is part of this going. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we're going to try and now get these companies to
Speaker 1: come back to Ohio and put up manufacturing hubs around there,
Speaker 1: because you know, in that area. It's beautiful in Oxford,
Speaker 1: but there's all sorts of rumor if you want to
Speaker 1: do it up there. I guess near Hamilton, there's some
Speaker 1: areas that you can do that. But that's not just here,
Speaker 1: it's across the whole state. And then of course, you
Speaker 1: know Columbus, we've got Intel at some points going and
Speaker 1: I think in thirty thirty one we've got these AI
Speaker 1: data centers coming in and we're starting to see resurgence
Speaker 1: here in Ohio.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's exciting because that just means there's a
Speaker 2: lot more opportunity for our graduates right right.
Speaker 1: Well, you want to you know, you want to be
Speaker 1: able to pay off the loan. At some point. They
Speaker 1: got to service the loan. That's a problem. And these
Speaker 1: are the jobs that are needed right now. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad we're finally leading into this year. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been a big proponent of the trades, but that's also
Speaker 1: part of this too. You know that the people are
Speaker 1: going to build a swiicility. You know, you've got plumbers,
Speaker 1: you've got electricians, you get people who are experts in
Speaker 1: motor systems and things like that, buildings and you know
Speaker 1: it's good for everybody, and that that rising tide lifts
Speaker 1: all boats. Where do you want to see this like
Speaker 1: in ten years?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's going to be just thousands and
Speaker 2: thousands of students. And we do want to have the
Speaker 2: model where as I mentioned earlier, cycle back, So come
Speaker 2: go to the workforce, work you know, come part time,
Speaker 2: take time off, come full time back to us. Just
Speaker 2: keep it, you know, keep learning, piling up those credentials,
Speaker 2: always to keep advancing in your career.
Speaker 1: But we're there for you.
Speaker 2: And it really is a new definition of lifelong learning
Speaker 2: because they can keep coming back and keep getting more continuous.
Speaker 1: Learning as it were. You know, where was there a
Speaker 1: spot at the room at the table And I didn't
Speaker 1: get into this. I should have before. Maybe adults that
Speaker 1: want to get into this too, because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we've got high school kids, we've got young people in college,
Speaker 1: but what about somebody who is working a job now
Speaker 1: going I got to do something else that's as a future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and that's always been a strength of our
Speaker 2: regional campus there in Hamilton. For adult learners, there is
Speaker 2: always a pathway back. And working with Ohio Means Jobs
Speaker 2: is really they work with adults. They're looking to pivot
Speaker 2: in their career or enhance their career or find a
Speaker 2: new career path. And so we'll be working with adults
Speaker 2: as well. So it'll be end to end from high
Speaker 2: school students all the way have through adults.
Speaker 1: And I see there's like child carest part of this too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll be moving to make sure we have solutions
Speaker 2: for that in the future as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the other big things is transportation. Does that
Speaker 1: affect you all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They have the bus service comes right up front
Speaker 2: of the building and drops them off, and so that's
Speaker 2: particularly super important for Ohio Means Jobs.
Speaker 1: You thought of everything, I hope we did. What about lunch,
Speaker 1: you got a place that you had lunch there? Coming
Speaker 1: to parking, parking spots, we got enough parking parking and
Speaker 1: has a mult situation, got good mulch around the buildings.
Speaker 1: Right now, you're going too far, I gotta ask. I
Speaker 1: was like, make sure I got to poke holes. Does
Speaker 1: it make sure that you thought this through completely, young man?
Speaker 1: I No, I think it's awesome And I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about this too, because I think this is the future.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much bad news and negative news
Speaker 1: these days with the economy and things, and you hear
Speaker 1: this and go, wow, we're starting to figure it out
Speaker 1: here in Ohio, like we could really you bring this
Speaker 1: manufacturing back. You know, the President was talking about that
Speaker 1: and repatriating jobs and I'm shoring jobs here. But this
Speaker 1: is where the rubber meets the road. It's getting young
Speaker 1: people involved saying, hey, this is a good career. It's
Speaker 1: hands on, it's tactile, we're leaning in it. I'm glad
Speaker 1: Miami's spiriting this.
Speaker 2: No, we're super excited. And the building's oppressive. The equipment's
Speaker 2: more impressive. Probably when you talk with our students, the
Speaker 2: Butler Tech students that are there and the Miami University students,
Speaker 2: you will just be blown away, a boy, how excited
Speaker 2: they are and how enthusiastic they are, and how talented
Speaker 2: these students are. And they're going to be the next
Speaker 2: you know, manufacturing engineering technologists in our country.
Speaker 1: And if you're a mom, dad, Gramma Grip, don't don't
Speaker 1: go in on manufacture. I'm telling it's like nanotechnology and
Speaker 1: three D and robot it's it's not all the way
Speaker 1: it used to be. How even twenty years ago or
Speaker 1: five years ago for that, you're you're right.
Speaker 2: It is as high tech as it gets, and it's
Speaker 2: not what you might think of what manufacturing used to
Speaker 2: look like decades ago. It's just a it's a phenomenal
Speaker 2: career path and we're there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll talk I'll talk to parents about you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm the building trades or something like. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I saw those guys are like sitting there eating their
Speaker 1: lunch on an ingot on top of New York City
Speaker 1: and in the black and white picture, yeah, when they're
Speaker 1: building the Empire State Building in nineteen thirty. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that one. It's like nobody's doing that anymore. There's no
Speaker 1: one jumping and throwing firing hot rivets at the guy
Speaker 1: up there, and there's no absolutely no net below them whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's incredible and impressive, but it hasn't been
Speaker 1: that way in a long time. It's like, you gotta
Speaker 1: check out some of the high tech stuff right now.
Speaker 1: It's more like a laboratory than it is a factory.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you walk through, you see the additive manufacturing, subtractive manufacturing,
Speaker 2: the CDC machines.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Yeah, extremely close tolerances. And we're doing it
Speaker 1: right here in America. And these are great jobs are
Speaker 1: going to be around for a long time. That's the
Speaker 1: most important thing. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And you know, this country always was known for making things,
Speaker 2: and so I'm so glad to see the manufacturing so
Speaker 2: strong in Ohio and picking up even more.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I wish more universities would do what you're doing at Miami. Really,
Speaker 1: it's impressive, it's cool, and it's the future too. And
Speaker 1: the way you've developed this learning model, and because it
Speaker 1: directly means jobs, that's what this is we've got a
Speaker 1: great workforce. Let's stop the brain during keep those jobs
Speaker 1: here and bring more jobs to the Buckeye State. It's
Speaker 1: good for all of us. Absolutely. All right, Gregory Crawford,
Speaker 1: President of the at Miami University. I appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: in studio this morning. Thanks for taking time out. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful to be here.
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Speaker 1: out against the iHeart Radio app and seven hundred w
Speaker 1: But I do that if I were you, because we're
Speaker 1: kind of creepy that way. We go wherever you want,
Speaker 1: where you go. So yesterday in the show, I had
Speaker 1: Adam Bird on. Adam of course front of the show.
Speaker 1: He's a lawmaker from New Richmond State representative out of
Speaker 1: Claremont County, and he's co sponsoring legislation to ban high
Speaker 1: school and IL deals because and you know rightly, so
Speaker 1: you saw what happened in college. We saw the problems
Speaker 1: that's created with college. But I would contend that that's
Speaker 1: not a problem. It's evolution. It's not what we're used to.
Speaker 1: And anytime you introduce a game changer like that's something
Speaker 1: that just absolutely shifts the earth. They are gonna be
Speaker 1: obviously unintended consequences, but you're gonna look at it go wow,
Speaker 1: this is really jacked up right now. Eventually it will
Speaker 1: settle down. Eventually water finds its own level. So certainly
Speaker 1: for the next few years it's going to be problematic
Speaker 1: with college and NIL and you know, sports betting and
Speaker 1: all those other things that factor into this untill we,
Speaker 1: you know, learn some lessons here and come up with
Speaker 1: the best practices in the solution. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe it is banning, maybe, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to go back that way. He is concerned about
Speaker 1: this when it comes to high school athletes. Now you
Speaker 1: know me when it comes to and I don't care
Speaker 1: who the hell's in power, That's where I come from.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's a Republican or Democrat. I
Speaker 1: just I want less of these guys in friend in
Speaker 1: my life. And you could talk about Obamacare and healthcare,
Speaker 1: I could talk about Trump wanting to nationalize or federalize elections.
Speaker 1: At this point, I just we need less of them
Speaker 1: because whatever they touch turns to crap. Quite honestly, like
Speaker 1: the less you guys do, the less you're involved in
Speaker 1: my day to day life, the better. So I look
Speaker 1: at this and go, okay, well, we want to ban
Speaker 1: nil money in high school. Well why would we do that.
Speaker 1: Here's the explanation Atedinburg gave on the floor yesterday.
Speaker 4: If someone is so talented athletically, then by all means
Speaker 4: take advantage of the opportunities that exist in the Olympics,
Speaker 4: that exist in professional tours, that exist in going to
Speaker 4: college early and making nil money early as at college athletes.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what that remedy is that Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: leave go high school, will go to college, go early.
Speaker 1: I don't know you're gonna be able to do that necessarily,
Speaker 1: or go play on the tour or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people who are you know,
Speaker 1: exceptional what they do at sports in this case will
Speaker 1: do that. You know, we saw my Lebron James, great example,
Speaker 1: but those are so few and far between. I guess
Speaker 1: I look at it and Okay, what is the what's
Speaker 1: the dangerer while we're corrupting these kids, and it's it's
Speaker 1: undermining amateur athletics. And it's a huge, huge, huge problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know how big a problem it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about the anil On high school college
Speaker 1: a little bit different and certainly pros are I I
Speaker 1: you're a professional athlete at that point. How many kids
Speaker 1: in Ohio is this really going to effect? I mean
Speaker 1: we're talking maybe life changing money. Let's say your kid
Speaker 1: is the next I don't know, tennis, superstar, golf, football,
Speaker 1: mister of football Ohio lock to be the first overall
Speaker 1: pick in the NFL draft. My kids, a quarterback is
Speaker 1: so good that teams, the NFL teams are really salivating
Speaker 1: and we're hoping that because it will be the Cleveland
Speaker 1: of the Jets that wind up getting the first pick,
Speaker 1: because I always do, and they'll screw this kid up.
Speaker 1: So we gotta get our money. Now. Hopefully we don't
Speaker 1: go to Cleveland or the Jets. But you have a
Speaker 1: chance to make literally life changing money in a country
Speaker 1: where capitalism is king and our president is exactly is
Speaker 1: the poster boy for capitalism, right, the guy we got
Speaker 1: now the guys the standard barrier party is literally you
Speaker 1: look up capitalists. It's a picture of President Trump. Why
Speaker 1: are we not doing this when it comes to high
Speaker 1: school Like, if you have a talent or a nobility
Speaker 1: that no one else has, or you're the best at
Speaker 1: that particular talent ability, how can you deny them the
Speaker 1: right to profit from their own name, image, and likeness,
Speaker 1: and why should the government interfere with that? Well, you're
Speaker 1: ruining schools. How are we ruining schools? Look at our
Speaker 1: schools are run. Look at our schools are funded and finance.
Speaker 1: Look at our test scores compared to the rest of
Speaker 1: the world. You've already screwed the schools. This is not
Speaker 1: gonna screw the schools up more. The stuff we worry about,
Speaker 1: the handwringing and the pro clutching, is unreal. If my
Speaker 1: kid is so good and he gives you thing, well,
Speaker 1: you can't have a kid make more money than the
Speaker 1: bus driver, the janitor, or the teacher. Yeah you can, Yes,
Speaker 1: you can. A doctor who has come up with a
Speaker 1: cure for Alzheimer's or cancer, whatever it might be, is
Speaker 1: still going to make less money than the best head
Speaker 1: coach of the National Football League? Is that right now?
Speaker 1: From an ethical standpoint, if you take it all the
Speaker 1: way go, yeah, it's kind of jacked up. And you know,
Speaker 1: we always hear from teachers the educator. Oh, teachers should
Speaker 1: be making millions of dollars a year. No they shouldn't, No,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. Do you know why teachers make the money
Speaker 1: they do because we have enough teachers. When we start
Speaker 1: to run out of teachers, then teachers will make more.
Speaker 1: It is about having about having an intangible benefit or
Speaker 1: skill that no one else has. So is it fair
Speaker 1: that a plastic surgeon makes a measurably more money than
Speaker 1: an er doctor. Well, now, the er doctors, they are
Speaker 1: saving people's lives and this guy's just doing cosmetic surgery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again it's a specialty. He's good at one particular craft.
Speaker 1: He's making way more money. I mean, it doesn't sound fair,
Speaker 1: but life isn't about things being fair all the time.
Speaker 1: When you and so now they're saying, well, now you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't profit from your name age. It's my name,
Speaker 1: it's my image of my likeness. And if the schools
Speaker 1: are telling me no, I got a problem with that.
Speaker 1: By really have a problem with a politician telling me that.
Speaker 1: A lawmaker and I love I love Adam. We've been
Speaker 1: them before and talk. It's not a personal attack by
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. I think we just differ
Speaker 1: philosophically on why this intervention is needed. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how many kids it's going to affect. Typically, if
Speaker 1: you know you're a standout athlete, you're the high school
Speaker 1: football star in rural Ohio, you know you're not going
Speaker 1: to get a million dollar contract from a local muffler shop.
Speaker 1: You might, you know, your parents might get a free
Speaker 1: muffler out of it. Maybe you got some walking around money,
Speaker 1: but it's not life changing most because I won't get
Speaker 1: life changing money. I would say if your kid is
Speaker 1: a you know, maybe they go to school in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and they go to the Academy Performing Arts right, and wow,
Speaker 1: they're really talented. They're gonna be anoche agen see that
Speaker 1: the time. Right kids are in shows and national they're
Speaker 1: making good money they're getting paid. We should we ban
Speaker 1: a kid who's a good actor, actress, a singer, a musician,
Speaker 1: an artist. What about a kid who I don't know?
Speaker 1: This happens occasionally. It's pretty rare, I would imagine, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're they're really scientifically minded, and at
Speaker 1: the science fair they come up with I don't know,
Speaker 1: some sort of alternative to some sort of I don't know,
Speaker 1: you name it. And so the sciences are like a
Speaker 1: company goes, Wow, that's a really good idea. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: buy the product. Like buy the product like they do
Speaker 1: a shark tank. Should we prevent that from happening because
Speaker 1: it's exploiting the kid? And no, of course we'd celebrate that.
Speaker 1: Go well, because you're using your mind. I just don't
Speaker 1: know what the what the beef is with athletes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we pay way too much attention to amateur sports,
Speaker 1: particular kids. But you know, it's think we got to
Speaker 1: stop the commercialization exploitition. Guess what, it's already happened. If
Speaker 1: you're going to do that, then go after the the
Speaker 1: largely private progial schools. This is not a secret that
Speaker 1: that those schools will recruit active, recruit kids around the country,
Speaker 1: move them to the district, put it put you, put
Speaker 1: the family up in the house, make sure that parents
Speaker 1: have jobs so the kid can play sports for the school.
Speaker 1: Happens all the time. It's been happening for years. Why
Speaker 1: are you going to stop that? No? Just this, what's
Speaker 1: the difference. It's like, you know, arguing about prostitution in
Speaker 1: a way, Well, you can't pay someone to have sex
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, but if I like pretend they're my
Speaker 1: girlfriend and I'm the sugar daddy and put them in
Speaker 1: a department and pay for their tuition, it well, that's
Speaker 1: a relationship. No, it's not. It's prostitution. I'm giving them
Speaker 1: material benefit in exchange for in this case sex. You know,
Speaker 1: we already do this all the time. I just I
Speaker 1: don't understand why they need to be more active in
Speaker 1: our lives every day. Like, no one's no one's demanding this.
Speaker 1: I get it that you have a fear, like, wow,
Speaker 1: look at us school colleges. Like here's the other thing
Speaker 1: is you go to school for education, and maybe not
Speaker 1: so much at college, but that is the primary thing
Speaker 1: that you do, and especially in high school. And so
Speaker 1: this is a small part of that, I know, I'd
Speaker 1: say to me, it's a solution in search of a problem.
Speaker 1: But all me more testimony on this coming up. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I did want to get into the Savannah Guthrie
Speaker 1: thing a little bit. So we have some new data,
Speaker 1: new data, new information coming up about this. So we
Speaker 1: are on the fifth day for the search for eighty
Speaker 1: four year old mother Savannah Guthrie and Nanty Guthrie. Apparently
Speaker 1: the ransom note is now being circulated. TMZ had it,
Speaker 1: but also an Arizona TV station had news anchor saw this.
Speaker 1: The Shari Pololo of Arizona, if you will, sent it
Speaker 1: to that came through an email to the station. And
Speaker 1: that's not uncommon, you know, back when you had ransom
Speaker 1: notes and things like that, that they would include the media.
Speaker 1: You know, it's typically with like a son of Sam
Speaker 1: and serial killers, they'd send notices to the media to
Speaker 1: let them know and here's what's happening, and this is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do next. And this was just concerning
Speaker 1: in the sense because they weren't sure one hundred percent
Speaker 1: if it is indeed a legitimate threat, because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of crackpots out there, and if you're a
Speaker 1: crackpot and you do these kind of things, and you
Speaker 1: want to send us stuff, send it directly. Here's the
Speaker 1: email address. If you're not even you're doing crazy stuff
Speaker 1: like this, send it to Willie at seven hundred ww
Speaker 1: dot com. And Nancy got the ransom note. They weren't sure.
Speaker 1: The anchor, I guess, looked at the said I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is real or not, but it was clear.
Speaker 1: After a couple of sentences, she said that it might
Speaker 1: not be a hoax because a lot of information in
Speaker 1: the ransom note was someone who's holding her fends would
Speaker 1: know only know what she was wearing and everything else
Speaker 1: sensitive information that someone off the street wouldn't and they
Speaker 1: gave a dollar amount, they gave a deadline and specifics
Speaker 1: to Nancy Guthrie that the abductor would know when no
Speaker 1: one else will. So that was a red flag. She
Speaker 1: forded this to the FBI that it wasn't a prank.
Speaker 1: There's some legitimacy here. Again, we don't know what the
Speaker 1: details of this are, if that was indeed the same
Speaker 1: ransom note, if indeed this exists or not, but that
Speaker 1: is what's dropped. Yeah, it's pretty disturbing, and so they're
Speaker 1: asking for money by a certain amount of time, a deadline,
Speaker 1: and it's got to be done via crypto. I was
Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday going r answer notes. Get we
Speaker 1: saw the golden age of this happened in the twenties
Speaker 1: and thirties, and then they abducted Charles Lindsburg's son and
Speaker 1: you know, he's dead, and that's when the FBI said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to make this federal offense. We're going to
Speaker 1: use the power. And it really shut that whole in
Speaker 1: because it was huge back of the day, and it
Speaker 1: surfaced a little bit maybe during the seventies, and you know,
Speaker 1: like anything, it's cyclical, and now it's coming back because
Speaker 1: a crypto go ow I can hold somebody hostage and
Speaker 1: now you can send me untraceable money. But again, you
Speaker 1: still are committing a federal offense. And you know, your
Speaker 1: world right now if the person the people or person
Speaker 1: responsible for this, your world is about the size of
Speaker 1: a pinhead right now, because you literally have the entire
Speaker 1: country engrossed in this, all the TV style and other
Speaker 1: news media, but in particular the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
Speaker 1: and I think President Trump call sav Anagusta yesterday said,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever resources you need, you got and so
Speaker 1: that world is definitely closing in, which makes you think
Speaker 1: that the people not thinking all that well, So who
Speaker 1: done it is the question here. Savannah Guthrie and her siblings,
Speaker 1: Annie and Cameron, her her sister and her brother. She
Speaker 1: read a very tearful Instagram video yesterday and it's hard
Speaker 1: to watch because you see how broken she is. But Nancy,
Speaker 1: her mom, was last seen around nine forty five pm Saturday,
Speaker 1: after her son in law and this would be Annie,
Speaker 1: her sister's husband. So her brother in law dropped her
Speaker 1: off at her home in Tucson, and after that she
Speaker 1: disappeared because I guess that her mom and the son
Speaker 1: in law and Annie had dinner together that night and
Speaker 1: he dropped her off. He's a science teacher, I guess,
Speaker 1: and dropped her off before safely. And then that was
Speaker 1: the last day I was so investigation it's going to
Speaker 1: start with the last person who saw you. We always
Speaker 1: start with the family. I'm sure Savannah Guthrie has been questioned,
Speaker 1: even though I'm sure the alibi as well. I was
Speaker 1: on my way to the Olympics. Pretty good alibi right there,
Speaker 1: and then you start looking at the family of the
Speaker 1: people who saw her last and that would have been
Speaker 1: her family members, which is absolutely chilling anyone. They go, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: clearly they did it. Well, we don't know that for sure,
Speaker 1: but man, you start with the last people around you,
Speaker 1: and I think that they were actually, as I saw,
Speaker 1: sheriff's deputies and the FBI were going through their home
Speaker 1: to see what they could find if there's any evidence
Speaker 1: in there, which is perfectly understandable because you'd start there
Speaker 1: and go, hey, we're going to get a search wark
Speaker 1: your last ones to see her. We're going to check
Speaker 1: and then eventually clear you and you start at the
Speaker 1: core of the circle and work your way out. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they did it or not, but you know, what's
Speaker 1: the motive there? Is it financial? What why would you
Speaker 1: do that if indeed it's your you know, it's your
Speaker 1: mom and you just saw her. That's a great question.
Speaker 1: Are there financial issues and the like? And so you know,
Speaker 1: right now, I'm sure they're getting answers to that and
Speaker 1: either focusing the search on her daughter and her son
Speaker 1: in law, or they're world that out and expanded the search.
Speaker 1: Right now. Anyway, there's I guess at one today the
Speaker 1: sheriff there will give an update on this whole situation.
Speaker 1: Horrible fair but new news coming out about that ransom note.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think, at this stage of the game,
Speaker 1: how well is this going to turn out? Hopefully she's
Speaker 1: alive and well and they keep her somewhere to be
Speaker 1: able to have her if indeed that is the case.
Speaker 1: One of the most bizarre stories but gripping at the
Speaker 1: same time, and we'll continue to follow it here. All right.
Speaker 1: I got to give a shout out to our friends
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Speaker 1: Of course the original location in Dayton, but the new
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Speaker 1: fantastic because it feels like a soup day and they
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Speaker 1: the Red seven hundred WW since now slowly on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. I don't have to remind you, with now
Speaker 1: what almost two full weeks and sub zero temperatures here
Speaker 1: in this tri state, how hard your furnace is working,
Speaker 1: and how much money you are spending. I had seen
Speaker 1: the bility yet, but when it comes, you better be
Speaker 1: laying down, not just sitting down. And demand has never
Speaker 1: been greater as a matter of fact, with all demands
Speaker 1: that we have on our energy supply right now, we're
Speaker 1: looking at the future of brownouts and maybe blackouts. And
Speaker 1: the reason driving this, of course is not just our
Speaker 1: consumption when it's colder, when it's hot for that matter.
Speaker 1: The bigger ones are like Butler County, Columbus. Right, We've
Speaker 1: got these data centers going up AI. We have electrification
Speaker 1: of vehicles twenty percent of all new car sales are
Speaker 1: either hybrid or the nine percent are just full of evs.
Speaker 1: Heat pump sales are going up. That's your air conditioning
Speaker 1: and heating. It's a heat pump now. And six out
Speaker 1: of ten heating installations here in Ohio are heat pumps.
Speaker 1: And so we're especially vulnerable things like brownouts because the
Speaker 1: supply doesn't meet the capacity and demand. So the Buck
Speaker 1: Guy Institute's tasked with working with the US Department Energy
Speaker 1: on solutions for this. And Ray Hederman is here once
Speaker 1: again to discuss Ray.
Speaker 5: Welcome back, Hi, Ben, I'm doing well, Scott, Thank you
Speaker 5: for having me.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's the thirty thousand foot view down to
Speaker 1: earth here. What's really driving this whole thing? But i'd
Speaker 1: imagine part of this has to do with innovation is
Speaker 1: the regulatory barriers. Typically with energy, we see a lot
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, let's just recap what's happened. Normally,
Speaker 5: energy projects take a long time to build out, and
Speaker 5: energy demand with flat so you're not going to go
Speaker 5: out and you're not going to build a whole bunch
Speaker 5: of new power plants if you're not expecting customers then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the last few years you know,
Speaker 5: artificial intelligence. Everybody has phones, people are looking at Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 5: you know, using AI. AI takes about ten times as
Speaker 5: much how today to get that answer as a Google
Speaker 5: question ten years ago. So energy demand is skyrocketing, and
Speaker 5: so now we need those data centers. The problem is
Speaker 5: scott regulatory regulations have made it so painful to build
Speaker 5: energy power plants that we're simply not getting electricity online
Speaker 5: fast enough. And that's where we're going to start seeing
Speaker 5: power spikes, potential brownouts. We're actually seeing data centers being
Speaker 5: told no, you can't be built because we don't have
Speaker 5: enough energy to meet the needs. What we've done at
Speaker 5: the Buckeye Institute is work with state wallmakers and now
Speaker 5: we're working with federal regulators to say this is what
Speaker 5: needs to be happen so we can build the electricity
Speaker 5: to keep electricity affordable and reliable.
Speaker 1: How I just also has to do with the political
Speaker 1: whips of Washington, DC. Whereas you had Trump, we're going
Speaker 1: to do the Keystone XL pipeline. Great, we're going to
Speaker 1: roll that thing out, and then Biden comes along says no,
Speaker 1: we're not doing it anymore, and trust back in office.
Speaker 1: While we're going to start doing it again.
Speaker 5: Well, you know you've seen that. You've seen like the
Speaker 5: Trump administration saying, hey, we're going to close intermittent energy.
Speaker 5: You've had Democrats saying we're going to phase out coal plants.
Speaker 5: I mean the last year that Biden administration, they said
Speaker 5: we're going to eliminate basically make it almost impossible for
Speaker 5: coal and natural gas plants to operate. That's why you
Speaker 5: know pjm Our energy grid that Ohio shares with a
Speaker 5: lot of other Blue states on the Atlantic Ocean. Dave
Speaker 5: Yost of many other states sued the federal government, saying,
Speaker 5: you can't do this because if you're turning off coal
Speaker 5: plants or twilling off solar plants, where's our electricity going
Speaker 5: to come from? That's dependable. I mean, if you look
Speaker 5: outside Ohio, right here in central Ohio, it's not an
Speaker 5: uncommon day, right, it's great, the sun doesn't shine as much.
Speaker 5: Solar is great for some states, it's not ideal for
Speaker 5: the state of Ohio and scott The other thing that's
Speaker 5: happened is you've had a lot of other states that
Speaker 5: have made a big deal, like New Jersey again, we
Speaker 5: share the energy grew with New Jersey, they destroyed their
Speaker 5: coal plants, that destroyed natural gas, and they based it
Speaker 5: all on optional wind and intermittent injury sources. But those
Speaker 5: simply don't have the same reliability or produce the same
Speaker 5: amount of base load power, and so now do New Jersey.
Speaker 5: A lot of other states have found themselves in an
Speaker 5: energy crisis and are scrambling to meet the growing demand.
Speaker 1: Ray if you travel through well the central part of
Speaker 1: the state where you are, but up north a little bit,
Speaker 1: or to drive Indianapolis to Chicago, you see a ton
Speaker 1: of wind farms, a lot of turbines out there. But
Speaker 1: as good as that, as fine as this, how much
Speaker 1: of energy productions? That represent what percent?
Speaker 3: I thought them?
Speaker 5: Five percent? In the state of Ohio. Look, we get
Speaker 5: most of our stuff from natural gas. Historically, Ohio has
Speaker 5: been a coal heavy steak. Coal produced the majority of
Speaker 5: Ohio's electricity into the last ten years, when natural gas,
Speaker 5: you know, you being able to tap into the shell crescent,
Speaker 5: has taken the place. So we get most of our
Speaker 5: energy from natural gas, coal, nuclear, and then it falls
Speaker 5: down the solar and winds. And again, you know that's
Speaker 5: true for a lot of states, particularly on those of
Speaker 5: US east of the Mississippi. You know, we get a
Speaker 5: lot from natural gas nuclear And what we're seeing right
Speaker 5: now again is, you know, because of the spike, people
Speaker 5: are scrambling to get power online. You know, a Microsoft,
Speaker 5: for example, has investing hundreds of millions of dollars three
Speaker 5: open three Mile Island nuclear power plant. That tells you
Speaker 5: what businesses are looking at when they see the demand
Speaker 5: for future energy production and what they need to do.
Speaker 5: And really what needs to happen is Washington needs to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: why are we not seeing power plants come online? We
Speaker 5: see prices are increasing. You open up your electricity bill,
Speaker 5: you know, you know when it's time to rebid, you're
Speaker 5: going to be higher electricity prices. So why aren't we
Speaker 5: seeing more production being built? And part of it comes
Speaker 5: back to those regulatory barriers, you know, the blocks that
Speaker 5: are at the local level, state level, federal level lawsuits
Speaker 5: for environmental review those have all created a massive chp
Speaker 5: point that means that we're really facing a deficit and
Speaker 5: electricity production that is choking out the growing economy.
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned the environmental reviews. How much has
Speaker 1: that bogged the process down?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you take a look at the so
Speaker 5: many album and what you're seeing is NI the environmental
Speaker 5: review that, by the way, people on both the left
Speaker 5: and right a saying, hey, this is not meant to
Speaker 5: be a weapon to slow things down. We've seen that
Speaker 5: being able to slow those productions down for years. That's
Speaker 5: the National Environmental Policy Act about four and a half
Speaker 5: years slowing down from the review connections. And so you
Speaker 5: know what happens, Scott is the way regulations work is
Speaker 5: they move into sequence.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like almost a train, right, you know,
Speaker 5: one car starts moving, the next car, the next car,
Speaker 5: the next car. So if you take you know, a
Speaker 5: year at the local level, a year at the state level,
Speaker 5: a year at the federal level, you're taking four and
Speaker 5: a half years or some environmental reviews. You know, you
Speaker 5: could sit there and be taking you six plus years
Speaker 5: for some big power plants to be built. And we've
Speaker 5: seen action take at the state level, you know, with
Speaker 5: Housepool fifteen, Ohio is saying, look, we need to speed
Speaker 5: this up. We need to make sure that regulators have
Speaker 5: only a certain amount of time to review so they
Speaker 5: can't de ladies in those projects. And we'd like to
Speaker 5: see the same thing done at the federal level, because
Speaker 5: I mean, at least we can still build things here
Speaker 5: in Ohio. Other states that have more state regulations, like
Speaker 5: California New Jersey, for example, they can't build anything because
Speaker 5: people were able to block production using these rules, using lawsuits,
Speaker 5: which means electricity rices are going to remain high.
Speaker 1: Makes sense. Ray Hederman's here Buckeye Institute working with the
Speaker 1: US Department of Energy and Solutions to fast track improving
Speaker 1: our infrastructure and power supply because we are near at
Speaker 1: peak demand and you know, with the winter months here too,
Speaker 1: we also have data centers and the light going online.
Speaker 1: The demand for electricity is greater than ever, and yet
Speaker 1: the infrastructure is way behind. We've often talked about brownouts
Speaker 1: and blackouts that have happened at West and those it's
Speaker 1: and it's you know, I don't know how close we are,
Speaker 1: but they say, certainly the Midwest Ray is very vulnerable
Speaker 1: to this because of those data centers are going online
Speaker 1: at record numbers. These are like small towns, and I
Speaker 1: think most people don't understand just how much energy one
Speaker 1: of these data centers requires.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, you know. It's basically you sit there and say, look,
Speaker 5: you know one of these data centers can consume more
Speaker 5: energy than the Manhattan right in New York City, and
Speaker 5: so that just kind of called everybody by surprise, and
Speaker 5: so they're saying what can be done. Well, you know,
Speaker 5: one of the things that we again that Houspill fifteen
Speaker 5: did that I'm a big fan of, is what we
Speaker 5: call behind the meter and what that means is if
Speaker 5: you're building a data center, you can actually build your
Speaker 5: own power plants, you know, to directly power your business.
Speaker 5: You can fast track that through the regulatory process and
Speaker 5: be able to power your own business. And that's kind
Speaker 5: of what we want to see the market working. We've
Speaker 5: seen some of those basically power plants be approved. One
Speaker 5: was approved just before Thanksgiving. I think those type of
Speaker 5: solutions right where businesses working together, maybe they're going to
Speaker 5: share a power plant with another business, those are the
Speaker 5: type of solutions that are going to get us out
Speaker 5: of this crisis and help us move ahead because relying
Speaker 5: on the way we've been doing things simply doesn't work. Scott,
Speaker 5: to give you an idea, just very quickly, there are
Speaker 5: one hundred and ninety seven thousands power requests to PGM
Speaker 5: Ohio's grid. One hundred and ninety seven thousand by somebody
Speaker 5: who wants to generate power to connect to the PGM RIP.
Speaker 5: The PKAM simply doesn't have enough personnel to get through them.
Speaker 5: And part of the problem is, you know, these are
Speaker 5: everything from five megawatts solar and whim smaller production plants,
Speaker 5: but that takes the same amount of power has a
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty megawatt natural gas plant. So you know,
Speaker 5: we have a lot of requests that are going online.
Speaker 5: People are gaining the system, flogging it up, and so
Speaker 5: we just need a way to cut through prioritize better
Speaker 5: which power plants are going to deliver reliable energy, to
Speaker 5: keep prices load for consumers, to keep light time for businesses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense if you've
Speaker 1: private interests. Hey, you know what, we'll build our own
Speaker 1: infrastructure here. The hell with you guys. What kind of
Speaker 1: power plants are seeing going online?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Sure, so right now, we've seen a lot of
Speaker 5: natural gas here in Ohio work and moving forward on that,
Speaker 5: you've also seen some renewable behind the meter as well.
Speaker 5: You know, I mean people sometimes will drive by you
Speaker 5: might see a big windmill at a car dealership, for example.
Speaker 5: You know, trying to produce power on site to deliver
Speaker 5: to those businesses. Other states are starting to see experiments
Speaker 5: with a small nuclear power plants again. You know, I
Speaker 5: mentioned Microsoft, for example, investing in reopening Three Mile Island
Speaker 5: for the benefit of Microsoft by themselves. Other companies are
Speaker 5: also contracting to build a smaller nuclear power plants, using hydro,
Speaker 5: using geothermal energy. You know, there's a lot of ways
Speaker 5: to be able to get electricity in businesses or reacting
Speaker 5: the way you'd expect them to do. What makes the
Speaker 5: most sense, what's most cost competitive, and where my business
Speaker 5: is located. And so that's what the beauty of what
Speaker 5: we see kind of free enterprise working out is coming
Speaker 5: up with solutions and trying not to burden rate payers.
Speaker 5: You know, that's what we want to make sure is
Speaker 5: that we have affordable energy and businesses aren't taking advantage
Speaker 5: of payers and hopefully not you know, seeking out special
Speaker 5: tax breaks. It would be great to roll back some tax
Speaker 5: incentives handout to big industry, big utilities, big tech along
Speaker 5: the way to make sure taxes are low, energy prices
Speaker 5: are kept affordable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Ray, it makes a lot of sense. And
Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of these small nuclear plants, and
Speaker 1: I think, you know, once again, it's a great example
Speaker 1: of how private industry will lead the way and solve
Speaker 1: the problems that government can't. For those who believe in
Speaker 1: government solving all problems, well there you go. There they're
Speaker 1: actually standing in the way. Are there going to be
Speaker 1: some trials, tribulations, heartbreaks, accidents, etcetera. Sure that there always
Speaker 1: is when it comes to technology, sadly, but that's part
Speaker 1: of the learning and growing experience as long as those
Speaker 1: responsible are held to a standard. That said, though, I
Speaker 1: think this is the advent of new power generation, and
Speaker 1: I think about you know, some of the like Microsoft
Speaker 1: at reopening through Mile Island, or smaller like suitcase type
Speaker 1: of nuke facilities or machines that produce enough energy to
Speaker 1: fire a plant. But it also has hoped to typical Americans.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine the day where and I don't know
Speaker 1: if it will be in our lifetime, but imagine that
Speaker 1: the technology gets so good you just buy one of
Speaker 1: these power units on Amazon, they ship it to you,
Speaker 1: You PLoP it in like a battery, and it lasts
Speaker 1: probably longer than you're alive, and then you know, it
Speaker 1: goes back to the recycling center and what they do
Speaker 1: with they spent Phil Rodds is yet to be determined,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless it seems like neighborhoods Hoa's small towns will
Speaker 1: have their own many nuclear plant to power, or we
Speaker 1: may just have one in our own house in fifty years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Scott, that's exactly right. I mean you're
Speaker 5: looking at the space talking to people involved in these businesses,
Speaker 5: both from producers and high energy consumers. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of innovation that's going on through private enterprise people saying, hey,
Speaker 5: you know what, let's try to use geothermal right out
Speaker 5: west where it makes her sense. You know, given the
Speaker 5: geology out there. You know they're actually experimenting rolling down
Speaker 5: to the Earth's cross being able to tie up out
Speaker 5: some of that geothermal energy. That's a great solution for
Speaker 5: some of those companies, you know, small neuclear reactors. You
Speaker 5: are seeing more businesses pulling together and basically forming micro grids,
Speaker 5: you know, behind the meter. That a way to say, hey,
Speaker 5: let's go on our own power sources so we don't
Speaker 5: have to wait a couple of years to go through
Speaker 5: the PJA on regulations. That's the type of innovation I
Speaker 5: think that has really made this country great. That's why
Speaker 5: I'm really optimistic about the future, because we know what
Speaker 5: the need is, we know the demands there, businesses know
Speaker 5: what they need to do to power themselves, and we
Speaker 5: have a solution for the future. You know, we can
Speaker 5: sit there, work together, innovate, development these things, and really
Speaker 5: keep America moving forward. And I look at the opposite
Speaker 5: end of the spectrum right again. I looked to Europe
Speaker 5: where a few years ago, you know, they came out
Speaker 5: and said, we can't compete with the United States because
Speaker 5: our electricity prices so unaffordable. You know, German manufacturing has
Speaker 5: fallen off a clock because electricity is so important to
Speaker 5: the manufacturing sector. Europe made terrible policy choices by trying
Speaker 5: to regulate this market. I am thankful that here in Ohio,
Speaker 5: you know, we're making different choices, moving to remove regulations
Speaker 5: on businesses, to encourage innovation, to encourage investment, to try
Speaker 5: to boost energy so to keep prices lower.
Speaker 1: Well, but in Ohio even will the bureaucracy and will
Speaker 1: the status quo machine keep this from moving forward?
Speaker 5: I you know, Scott, I'm optimistic, I think because we're
Speaker 5: already seeing this working again. You know, we've seen a
Speaker 5: couple of billion dollars behind the meter projects already move forward, right,
Speaker 5: So these private businesses are putting their money where their
Speaker 5: hopes are. That's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 5: The Public Utilities Commission of Ohio is approving some of
Speaker 5: these projects are all going to be private behind the
Speaker 5: meter to power some of the data centers, the powers
Speaker 5: from these manufacturing plants. I think Ohio is building a
Speaker 5: model that should be emulated copied by other states. You know,
Speaker 5: we're able to take advantage of it, and if federal
Speaker 5: regulators can move faster, that'll be better for us as well.
Speaker 5: But HB fifteen, I think is a really good piece
Speaker 5: of legislation that is encouraging a lot of private enterprise.
Speaker 5: And again, you know, reading from the news reports, reading
Speaker 5: the filings before the Public Utilities Commission, there's billions of
Speaker 5: dollars of private investment that's taking place right now thanks
Speaker 5: to HP fifteen, allowing businesses to power up more quickly.
Speaker 1: All right. He's ray headed been to the Buckeye Institute
Speaker 1: working with the Department of Energy on solutions to solve
Speaker 1: our power crisis. And it's looming. It really is. Imagine
Speaker 1: a day, like, for example, Class of twenty twenty five, Ray,
Speaker 1: you show them a picture of a flat circular thing
Speaker 1: with a hole in the middle. It's kind of translucent,
Speaker 1: and they don't know what that. It's called a compact
Speaker 1: disc Imagine Class of twenty one twenty five when you
Speaker 1: show them the picture of a utility poll with all
Speaker 1: those wires out, and they go, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: Hopefully that, hopefully that's what the future is here in
Speaker 1: the Buckeye day all the best, buddy, Thanks.
Speaker 5: Again, Thanks a lot, Scott, always a pleasure.
Speaker 1: We have a little more weather moving in. We'll find
Speaker 1: out which way it's going to break. Although it's a
Speaker 1: little early, could be snow, could just be wet and melty.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's the latter. Sanjay is next, Doctor Sanjay Shavacrimani,
Speaker 1: our health, food and fitness guy, the medical truth that
Speaker 1: you need to know about testosterone. Do you need more?
Speaker 1: Do you need less? Do you need supplement? What do
Speaker 1: you need? We'll figure it out together. Next. Scottsland continues
Speaker 1: afternoons on seven hundred WW two.
Speaker 7: Scott won't show back on.
Speaker 1: Seven hundred when everything is saying, at this time we
Speaker 1: have our buddy on doctor shav Cremani, who is an
Speaker 1: eer physician at Dinewell Dock. It's where health, food and
Speaker 1: fitness all come together. And now more than ever, we
Speaker 1: need questions answered in a very scientific, empirical way, because
Speaker 1: no one's more of a scientist than Sanja. You are
Speaker 1: come off as as scient that's me.
Speaker 6: I just left my microscope and cells to join the show,
Speaker 6: and I'll get.
Speaker 1: Right back to it, right right. Solls like he's got
Speaker 1: Petri dishes in his pockets. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on here, all right? So today this is interesting because
Speaker 1: you hear a lot about the testosterone replacement testosterone therapy
Speaker 1: for men, especially as you get over forty. You know,
Speaker 1: we've all seen the ads or heard the ads, as
Speaker 1: the case may be, and it's kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: people are like do I really need it? And you know,
Speaker 1: the more you hear something like the ads on TV
Speaker 1: for these medicines and drugs that we don't know what
Speaker 1: they do, but there's they seem very happy dancing around
Speaker 1: some farmer's market and singing about whatever it is that
Speaker 1: they're doing. And then you hear like, well if my
Speaker 1: favorite thing with those ads by the way and you
Speaker 1: know me, I've got off on the tangent. Always go, well,
Speaker 1: don't take it if you're allergic to this drug? How
Speaker 1: the hell? This is the most wife thing. Ever, how
Speaker 1: do I know I'm allergic to the drug unless I
Speaker 1: take the drug? Can you answer that question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's more of like a good luck out there.
Speaker 6: We have to say this because we do. But that's
Speaker 6: about it. We'll take it if you don't like it.
Speaker 1: What how what am I goingning? Well, that's on you,
Speaker 1: that's not on us the waiver, but in that regard
Speaker 1: to you here and you go, man, maybe I do
Speaker 1: need that? I do I know? Do I have no test? Joshture?
Speaker 5: Do I have?
Speaker 1: You know? I am tired, and I am sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: thirsty and I get hungry like three times a day.
Speaker 1: Maybe I do have this? Well everybody does. So how
Speaker 1: do I know if I need it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it's a great question because it is out there,
Speaker 6: and I feel like the ads are definitely increasing, or
Speaker 6: if not, sure have increased, and so it's hard to
Speaker 6: kind of work through. I'll tell you that when things
Speaker 6: started coming out, I was like, no, like this is
Speaker 6: this a scam? And then actually in the emergency department.
Speaker 6: I saw a few young men with blood clots in
Speaker 6: their legs and lungs, and their only risk factor, I
Speaker 6: mean they were in their thirties and twenties. Their only
Speaker 6: risk factor was being on recent testosterone supplementation, and so
Speaker 6: I got scared about it. It's almost like the GLP ones,
Speaker 6: you know, like when the first changes started coming and
Speaker 6: the initial dosing was happening and people were still figuring
Speaker 6: it out. I saw a lot of a lot of
Speaker 6: patients with g I upset with g LP ones, but
Speaker 6: we figured it out more and now it's unacceptable and
Speaker 6: testosterone's kind of gone the same way. So is it helpful? Yes,
Speaker 6: asterisk because that asterisk is for certain.
Speaker 1: People, Okay, and that's good. And you know again, that
Speaker 1: is why I'm never the first one. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's a movie, I don't care what I new iPhone.
Speaker 1: I'm not first in line to buy because there's always
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah I'm good. I don't need to be Oh,
Speaker 1: look what I got the brand new It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy, because I want you to buy
Speaker 1: it and then go wow, this sucks. And then and
Speaker 1: then a couple of months, I buy the one the
Speaker 1: way they fix it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, someone else should volunteer his tribute. Correct, I'm not
Speaker 6: doing that. We need those people in the where to go,
Speaker 6: you go first. Yeah, we appreciate this people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm that way for volunteering wars any of the stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be right behind you all the way. I'm the
Speaker 1: back of class kind of guy. All right, So you
Speaker 1: hear that and go well. And the other thing, it's
Speaker 1: that replacement, right, So naturally your body as you get
Speaker 1: over men, you see a decline in testosterone. That's perfectly natural.
Speaker 1: If that's nature's way, God's way, if you will, why
Speaker 1: do we need a why do we need to bring
Speaker 1: those levels back up?
Speaker 6: So and that's a great question because what happens is
Speaker 6: that the testosterone levels do drop, and it's about one
Speaker 6: percent every year, so it's not a lot, but it's
Speaker 6: enough for testosterone replacement companies to kind of market you
Speaker 6: know your Yes, your testosterone does decrease. And in fact,
Speaker 6: about forty five so almost half of men over the
Speaker 6: age of forty will have technically low testosterone levels. The
Speaker 6: thing is is that only five to six percent of
Speaker 6: men actually have symptoms with that got it, and those
Speaker 6: are the ones that should be you know, having the
Speaker 6: replacement right. And so while it's marketed and you can
Speaker 6: just look at a number and say, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: I need this supplementation, I need this replacement, it is
Speaker 6: definitely not for everybody, and that's not what the current
Speaker 6: guidelines say. Not everyone needs it. Even if your numbers
Speaker 6: are low, you need numbers and symptoms to require.
Speaker 1: Supplements, and the symptoms are again, so a lot of it.
Speaker 6: Has to do. I mean, we think testosterone, we think,
Speaker 6: you know, do you have a libido? But also just
Speaker 6: general energy, how well your brain is working, so mental clarity.
Speaker 6: And then we get to the body structure. So what
Speaker 6: does testosterone do well, It builds muscle and burns fat,
Speaker 6: and it builds bone and so weak bones, a lot
Speaker 6: more visceral fats the one around your gut and then
Speaker 6: less protein so I mean sorry, less muscle. So if
Speaker 6: you're experiencing that in the setting of low numbers, then
Speaker 6: those are reasons to potentially seek out, you know, replacement.
Speaker 1: Do you see that change even as you get older
Speaker 1: to them mean, there's probably more gains if you're closer
Speaker 1: to forty, but if you're closer to sixty.
Speaker 6: Yes, over time, we know that fat goes up, muscle
Speaker 6: goes down. There are things we can do about it.
Speaker 6: And it's not purely testosterone that drives that. You know,
Speaker 6: there are a lot of other hormones that are in
Speaker 6: balance that will control those things, testosterone being a main
Speaker 6: one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Sanjay. The other element of this too is okay,
Speaker 1: can I can I do too much? I mean, if
Speaker 1: my test testosterone levels are within the normal range and
Speaker 1: I go, well, I'm gonna do it anyway, what's the danger?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So the main thing that we've considered is that
Speaker 6: it increases your blood count. So testosterone increases the number
Speaker 6: of red cells in your blood. So if you imagine, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, your blood flowing through your body, if you
Speaker 6: have more crud in it, you know, the red blood cells,
Speaker 6: it may go slower and it can actually form blood
Speaker 6: clots because things are moving slower. It's kind of like
Speaker 6: dunking up your pipes. I know, you know home improvement
Speaker 6: better than I do.
Speaker 1: My pipes are gunky already, I'm ready to add to that.
Speaker 1: So well, it'll increase your red blood cell count, which
Speaker 1: of course up coagulation and that you wind up bas
Speaker 1: essentially strokes and things like that.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, you get more sludgy blood, which makes the
Speaker 6: concern for strokes and heart attacks. So in the literature
Speaker 6: it had been shown again asterisk, it had been shown
Speaker 6: that there were increased risks of heart attacks and men
Speaker 6: on testosterone. In twenty twenty five, there was a better
Speaker 6: study done that said that risk does not seem to
Speaker 6: be there for appropriate patients. So again, man over forty
Speaker 6: with low levels and symptoms, if your levels are less
Speaker 6: than three hundred, by all means, do the testosterone therapy
Speaker 6: and you should not face a higher.
Speaker 1: Risk of cart attack. And I saw and not to
Speaker 1: bring this thing down, but it was a story. Yester,
Speaker 1: jeffy Epstein had like super low, like fifteen normals three
Speaker 1: hundred fifteen. So that's someone who's it's indicated.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe do a little case study on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly, I mean, who knows what's driving him.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, never heard of the guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy. But good it's but you hear that. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's clearly but how many how many people is that really?
Speaker 1: I mean you said three percent of the population.
Speaker 6: About five to six percent of people that have low
Speaker 6: numbers and have symptoms, and so yeah, there's a good
Speaker 6: chance he had that and maybe he required the supplementation.
Speaker 6: The interesting thing about numbers as as a slight aside
Speaker 6: is you want that number to be checked between seven
Speaker 6: and ten AM, so early morning time. So if you
Speaker 6: go into clinic and you know at six pm your
Speaker 6: testosterol levels are are low, they're kind of at the
Speaker 6: lower point of the day. And so if you get
Speaker 6: it measured and someone says, oh, look, your testosterone levels
Speaker 6: are low, be careful about that. Ok have your levels
Speaker 6: checked in the morning. Why is this has to be
Speaker 6: checked twice? It's the highest then, and so you can
Speaker 6: get a falsely low result if you get it checked
Speaker 6: at next other time.
Speaker 1: Okay, got a doctor Sanjay shavkromised doc er doc. And
Speaker 1: also we talk about health and food and fitness on
Speaker 1: Thursday March with this do you need testosterone supplementation? And
Speaker 1: now you know these are just the facts too, So
Speaker 1: do with the information with you will, because if you're
Speaker 1: wondering about it, go ah, you know here, maybe I
Speaker 1: need this because I could lose some wight. I mean
Speaker 1: it sounds great, right, I lose waight loose fat, put
Speaker 1: on muscle, bone densited helps with that. I'm alert. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a miracle drug. It's a miracle drug. It's a drug.
Speaker 6: It's being sold as that, you know, and that's what
Speaker 6: the commercials are about. And the low tee thing is real,
Speaker 6: but for less men than is kind of suggested, and
Speaker 6: so we do have to be careful with that, but
Speaker 6: there are appropriate patients for that. However, the availability of
Speaker 6: the testosterone replacement is a lot and so you know
Speaker 6: they're online brands, they're in person. But most important is
Speaker 6: having accurate checks. So make sure the places are checking
Speaker 6: your blood work and then checking it frequently afterwards to
Speaker 6: make sure your blood count isn't going too high and
Speaker 6: not over shooting. So again, low testosterone is less than
Speaker 6: three hundred, what you're shooting for is four hundred to
Speaker 6: seven hundred if you're on replacement. If places are suggesting
Speaker 6: you should be at nine hundred to twelve hundred, be careful, okay,
Speaker 6: and those are the ones that might be over selling you.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: You mentioned about cardiovascular risk too and still being studied,
Speaker 1: but there's concerning data out there. My concern when I
Speaker 1: first came out. This is years ago. I said, Man,
Speaker 1: are's reason your body starts producing less testosterone over the years,
Speaker 1: A tablet with a whole bunch of things. But I
Speaker 1: also think could I develop cancer because the test as
Speaker 1: I mean, things are growing, But cancers would be fed
Speaker 1: by that too, correct, that's a concern.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So the main one is not necessarily developing cancer.
Speaker 6: But if you're at risk for prostate cancer or have
Speaker 6: prostate cancer, that's the main one we think about. And
Speaker 6: so that's the that's the one. If you have any
Speaker 6: concerns of a rising p s A level in your blood,
Speaker 6: or there's been suggestion that you do have early prostate cancer,
Speaker 6: you want to probably not take testosterone supplementation.
Speaker 1: Okay, I heard this makes sleep apnel worse, etc. That
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 6: And the the interesting part about that is that better
Speaker 6: sleep raises your testosterone naturally, and so yeah, it's testosterone
Speaker 6: does make sleep apnea worse, which is a kind of
Speaker 6: feedback in itself.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like getting worse because that just makes that grow.
Speaker 5: Is that.
Speaker 1: Fascinating that it does?
Speaker 6: It does suggest that, Yeah, but there are other things,
Speaker 6: you know, speaking of better sleep, there's the thing to
Speaker 6: drive your own testosterone because you know, if you have
Speaker 6: a low testosteron, say in the two hundreds to three hundreds,
Speaker 6: there are things you can do naturally to increase it
Speaker 6: that don't necessarily require supplementation or replacement. Stuff like strength training,
Speaker 6: better sleep, less stress, losing weight, all of those things
Speaker 6: that we've talked about on this show, all the things
Speaker 6: that hard stuff, your general stuff, the hard stuff.
Speaker 1: But I can just take a shot. I don't have
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 6: Come on, man, staying silent on that one testosterone eat.
Speaker 6: I could eat four pizzas a day if I wanted to. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, you know it is. It is tempting, It
Speaker 6: totally is. But you know you're on a GLP one,
Speaker 6: You're probably gonna be thinking about one bite of pizza.
Speaker 6: But yeah, the same thing goes for testosterone. So you know,
Speaker 6: make sure that your lifestyle you've made the lifestyle changes
Speaker 6: that you need to as well. Again, strength training is
Speaker 6: one of the best things for this. You can increase
Speaker 6: your testosterone naturally that way. Even excess alcohol will make
Speaker 6: you your test asterone lower, So decreasing your alcohol intake, losing
Speaker 6: your visceral fats, and doing what you can to lose
Speaker 6: weight and whatever way it can, because fat actually changes
Speaker 6: it converts testosterone to estrogen, and so you you decrease
Speaker 6: your testosteron stores that way, and so losing.
Speaker 1: Fat can be a big benefit. Man boobs moves Yep, right, mops,
Speaker 1: I got it. I also here, you know there's a well,
Speaker 1: this is an over the counter supplement. You know, the
Speaker 1: supplement industry is huge and it's not regulated, and so
Speaker 1: you can sell whatever you want and pill form bottle forms.
Speaker 1: Take this and you'll be you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: you're ten years old again. And what about that stuff?
Speaker 1: Does it? You don't need proprietary supplements like that. But
Speaker 1: are are there otcs or vitamins you should be taking
Speaker 1: to help you maximize your testosterone?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So the supplements is it's a murky area, mainly because
Speaker 6: it's not well regulated. Do some of those work? Yes,
Speaker 6: but studies have shown that it's about a quarter of
Speaker 6: them that will raise your testosterone. And I don't know
Speaker 6: which ones those are because I usually stay away from
Speaker 6: those in general, but ten percent of them have actually
Speaker 6: been shown to decrease your testosterone. So be very careful
Speaker 6: if you're trying to do that stuff as your only
Speaker 6: way you mentioned you know other supplements. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, those are all good things to
Speaker 6: have in your body. Not certainly not to overdose on,
Speaker 6: but just make sure you're having good nutrition and you know,
Speaker 6: supplementing those as needed and you're in a better place.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We we were talking before we started here, Sanjay
Speaker 1: about vitamin D and you know, I've been on that forever.
Speaker 1: You said, you know, you're taking five thousand a day,
Speaker 1: and it's just the more we learn about vitamin D,
Speaker 1: it's really a critical, critical supplement.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, we talk about vitamin D being
Speaker 6: a vitamin, but it's it's thought more to be a hormone.
Speaker 6: So it is a messenger in our body that works
Speaker 6: in a ton of organs and works very much like
Speaker 6: you know, not exactly like testosterone, but it's a hormone
Speaker 6: like like testosterone and estrogen and all those others in
Speaker 6: the way it functions in the way our body really
Speaker 6: needs it. Which also reminds me there's there's one other
Speaker 6: risk of of I mean sorry, testosterone replacement, which is
Speaker 6: decreasing fertility. Now, so that that kind of goes backwards, right,
Speaker 6: So your libido's high, but your fertility is low with
Speaker 6: more testosterone, and so if you're being if you're having supplementation,
Speaker 6: your counts or your overall fertility will go down, but
Speaker 6: usually off almost always. That is a reversible thing, so
Speaker 6: your fertility will come back. But if you're trying to
Speaker 6: you know, if you're trying to start a family, testosterone
Speaker 6: replacement may not be the right thing for you.
Speaker 1: But most guys you're trying to avoid family. So this
Speaker 1: is like another reason to take male birth control exactly.
Speaker 1: Like wait, it does time in there's a spike of tests.
Speaker 1: Don't tell your significant I'll tell your wife. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. We just kind of
Speaker 1: keep trying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's and by the way, can you give me
Speaker 6: this injection real quick?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many times a week? Is that once a week?
Speaker 6: So for injections, typically it's once a week. They also
Speaker 6: have topical And if you're wondering where that goes, it
Speaker 6: is not where you just imagined. It is usually in
Speaker 6: the arms. You don't want to put testosterone where the
Speaker 6: testosterone is created. I see, yes, you think it's faster
Speaker 6: that way, right, I might imagine, But now it's usually
Speaker 6: in the arms and that's a daily thing. And I
Speaker 6: think they just released an oral formulation of this stuff
Speaker 6: which would be daily as well.
Speaker 1: The efficacy had it made it for the injectible is
Speaker 1: better than the oral for the topical. Yeah, yeah, exlightly
Speaker 1: usually okay, So but if you're reverse to needles and
Speaker 1: who wants to shoot themselves with a needle? There are
Speaker 1: options here, you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are other
Speaker 1: options for this as well, really interesting stuff. So you know,
Speaker 1: again it's it's buyer beware. It's it's having the information
Speaker 1: and then making a decision based on what you heard
Speaker 1: the facts, as opposed to you know, going to you
Speaker 1: know and everyone else's And I keep hearing about all
Speaker 1: these guys maybe I need that, and you talk yourself
Speaker 1: into it. But now you kind of know. But you
Speaker 1: could get the test and find out what your testosterone level.
Speaker 6: Yeah and small, I mean minor story. I had mind checked.
Speaker 6: I was in the three fifty range, so I guess
Speaker 6: I was slightly low. And you know, the doctor I
Speaker 6: met with and shout out to metamorph Sean Ryan who
Speaker 6: sat down with me. He you know, we had a
Speaker 6: very good discussion about it, and he's like, look, there
Speaker 6: are other things you can do like how's your diet,
Speaker 6: how's your lifestyle? And that's the important conversation. So be
Speaker 6: careful if you're you're doing just online without consulting with
Speaker 6: the physician and without thinking about your other options and
Speaker 6: weighing those.
Speaker 1: Finally, you no cost to this, that is that I
Speaker 1: don't okay, And it probably varies too depending where you go.
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6: Think it's totally expensive. I don't think we're talking GLP
Speaker 6: one prices.
Speaker 1: Right right right less than that. But and if some
Speaker 1: do you have to be on it forever, then at
Speaker 1: that point do you there is a suggestion.
Speaker 6: For most people like if if you're symptomatic with very
Speaker 6: low testosterol level and you have quote hypo gonatism, so
Speaker 6: you're you're going to just produce less testoster I caught that, Yeah,
Speaker 6: rock on. So yeah, if you may have to be
Speaker 6: on it for life. But other times there are some
Speaker 6: people that may have a temporary decrease in their testo. Again,
Speaker 6: stress will do it. You know, if you cut the
Speaker 6: alcohol out, maybe you can come off of it. But'll
Speaker 6: most people need to be honest.
Speaker 1: So but but if you go off it, do you
Speaker 1: just turn into a beach ball again. I mean, does
Speaker 1: it like GLP ones. Once you're on it, you gotta
Speaker 1: be on it forever. It's not immediate.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's hardy to put that on and it just
Speaker 6: works in a different way. And so we're talking about,
Speaker 6: you know, just slightly increasing your levels as opposed to
Speaker 6: the massive changes we're seeing with GLP ones.
Speaker 1: Got it. He is our resident doctor physician edie doctor,
Speaker 1: doctor Sanjay Schevacrimani. He's also at dine well Doc. That's
Speaker 1: his handle, health, food, fitness and Medicine. Thanks for popping in,
Speaker 1: and again, I just love the I love to get
Speaker 1: the information out, the facts out first before you proceed.
Speaker 1: So if that's you and you're thinking about, you're on
Speaker 1: the fence and now you know and you can ask
Speaker 1: good questions when you go and get your test. Asterone
Speaker 1: check now. Thanks beevis appreciate, he said, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. It's got flowing back on seven hundred
Speaker 1: double lots of cutter again today. Man, there's who shortage
Speaker 1: to do is the last forty eight hours, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But we had this story come out. Cincinnati's Curfew Center
Speaker 1: has been open. What eighteen months now and it costs
Speaker 1: us like almost four hundred thousand dollars operate. Okay, Curfew Center.
Speaker 1: We get these kids that get jammed up there on
Speaker 1: after hours, causing problems, big groups. We pick them up,
Speaker 1: We put them in a temporary holding facility for those
Speaker 1: that break care fore you especially Friday Saturday nights, and
Speaker 1: they can't immediately be turned to return home for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: and then they call the parents and guardians to come
Speaker 1: get your kid. Okay, great, three hundred eighty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: This is awesome. This is going to help solve that
Speaker 1: juvenile linguency issue. Only problem is they have been exactly
Speaker 1: four I said four four, not four hundred, not four thousand,
Speaker 1: four between three and five kids that have been held
Speaker 1: in the last year and a half at three hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty thousand dollars, which is like one hundred k
Speaker 1: per kid. The math doesn't math. She is a council member. Anna,
Speaker 1: I'll be back on the show on seven hundred WW
Speaker 1: and I'll make a deal with you. I'll take one
Speaker 1: of these kids and watch them till their parents can
Speaker 1: pick them up for only seventy five thousand dollars. How
Speaker 1: about that I'm saving you money.
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this gap,
Speaker 7: so thank you. I will do a quick FactCheck. It
Speaker 7: hasn't been fully eighteen months since we kind of implemented
Speaker 7: a special curfew district downtown and make sure we had
Speaker 7: these curfee centers up and running. Understand the case to
Speaker 7: be made. I think what's really important to be clear
Speaker 7: is going into the process of whether or not to
Speaker 7: update our curfew policy, which included both you know, making
Speaker 7: the time at night more standard across the city. That
Speaker 7: was a big piece of it. The previous curfew ordinance
Speaker 7: had stagger times based on age, and it's like, how
Speaker 7: are you supposed to be able to tell from a
Speaker 7: distance of sixteen year old from a seventeen year old? Right, Like,
Speaker 7: it was just it was hard to enforce. So the
Speaker 7: first piece of that curfew was saying, okay, city wide
Speaker 7: we have eleven PM. And then the second piece of
Speaker 7: it was the Downtown Business District Special Curfew Center where
Speaker 7: we have the nine pm curfew, And that's really where
Speaker 7: we wanted to make sure we had the support of
Speaker 7: the curfew centers because something that was important to me
Speaker 7: into my colleagues, is implementing the curfew was not not
Speaker 7: an effort to criminalize kids in any way. We want
Speaker 7: kids to be in a safe spot. So those were
Speaker 7: really intentional conversations I know I had with the administration
Speaker 7: and with my colleagues as we went into this process
Speaker 7: about Okay, what happens if there is a kid out
Speaker 7: after curfew? How are we making sure we get that
Speaker 7: person that kid home to a safe place?
Speaker 1: Right? And that's the intent here. But I look at
Speaker 1: this and go wow, four and you said, okay, not
Speaker 1: quite eighteen months. But let's face it, how many kids
Speaker 1: are loitering at one o'clock in the morning. Wh's thirty
Speaker 1: five thousand degrees below zero. So I'm going to guess
Speaker 1: probably not going to pick many more kids up, at
Speaker 1: least until the spring starts, the warm weather starts and
Speaker 1: they congregating groups. Is this an issue of enforcement or
Speaker 1: is an issue of simply deterrence? I know Interim Chief
Speaker 1: Henny brought that up, suggested at the meeting that this
Speaker 1: is working as a deterrent. But if that's the case,
Speaker 1: do you need to spend three hundred and eighty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to.
Speaker 3: Deter I think that's a great question.
Speaker 7: And this was the first year we had this approach
Speaker 7: for the curfew center and having a special district, So
Speaker 7: I definitely see this year as a learning opportunity. In fact,
Speaker 7: at the end of August, I went on a ride
Speaker 7: along with CPD in OTR from six pm to midnight.
Speaker 7: I could not make it past midnight. I had to
Speaker 7: be up and functioning the next morning. But during that
Speaker 7: period we did come in contact with some kids. I
Speaker 7: don't know their exact ages, maybe looks ten to twelve
Speaker 7: years old. And you know, I got to watch the
Speaker 7: officer interacting with those kids and basically saying, hey, you
Speaker 7: got to go home, and you know, we watched them
Speaker 7: walk away, hopefully towards home, and that that was the intent, right,
Speaker 7: going into this, being really intentional about the conversation. So
Speaker 7: the officer's process and this is you're going to first,
Speaker 7: you know, ask them to go home home, tell them
Speaker 7: to go home, and demand and it's not till that
Speaker 7: third demand interaction where that would activate the curfew center.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: So I'll be honest, like there is a version of
Speaker 7: this where hey, just the threat of the curfew was
Speaker 7: enough to keep kids at home, right, and that was enough,
Speaker 7: or our officers are having doing a really great job
Speaker 7: with these interactions and the kids are listening. You know,
Speaker 7: that's something hard to know any given moments. I think again,
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, the ultimate goal was
Speaker 7: let's make sure our kids are safe and off the
Speaker 7: streets when it's late at night, so they are not
Speaker 7: victims of crime or committing crimes. And to me, this
Speaker 7: for kids at their curfew center shows that was successful.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, it's hard to tell at this point
Speaker 1: if it's a deterrent or we're just not And I
Speaker 1: think the other element from cops is okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: Typically it's going to be a group of adolescents. They
Speaker 1: always congregating groups right doing God knows what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They see the police, they scatter, everybody runs in a
Speaker 1: different direction. Now you've got a cop by themselves in
Speaker 1: a unit. I want to get in a foot pursuit
Speaker 1: with a whether sixteen or with a ten or twelve
Speaker 1: year old, and I'm carrying sixty pounds of equipment and
Speaker 1: a lot of things can go wrong, and you know
Speaker 1: what if it maybe they just scare them away and
Speaker 1: they're not pursuing that that technically that's a deterrent. But
Speaker 1: I could imagine with all the stuff that our officers
Speaker 1: who are overwhelmed with the amount of things they have
Speaker 1: to do, are going to get in a foot pursuit
Speaker 1: over over a curfew violation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we did not want pursuits, right, That was not
Speaker 7: the intensiveness. We really do focus intinsati on having those
Speaker 7: positive relationship with our officers who are out in the
Speaker 7: community with community members.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: So we do want our officers to have some trust
Speaker 7: with kids when they come up and say, hey, hey,
Speaker 7: time to go home. That's to be a positive professional interaction, right.
Speaker 7: We're not We're literally not trying to take kids down.
Speaker 3: The streets from alism, right.
Speaker 7: So you know, the Curfew Center to me is really
Speaker 7: that insurance policy for us that if there is a
Speaker 7: situation which, like you said, there are four of them,
Speaker 7: where we have that interaction with the kid and we
Speaker 7: can't get a hold of their caretaker, we have a
Speaker 7: safe place for them to be where we're still working
Speaker 7: to get ahold of their whoever, if it's a parents, aunts,
Speaker 7: grandmother or whatever caretaker, we have them in a safe
Speaker 7: space out of the cold weather. If it's winter time,
Speaker 7: or where they can get snacks, and that's the insurance policy.
Speaker 7: So you know, you look at this contract and yeah,
Speaker 7: it had to be a year long because we never
Speaker 7: we didn't know going into this how often would we
Speaker 7: be using it right like maybe Monday night it's NERO
Speaker 7: and Friday nights it's twenty We had no idea. So again,
Speaker 7: this to me is the kind of the first out,
Speaker 7: first time out testing this approach. I think, you know,
Speaker 7: we have learnings, but I think overall, you know, success
Speaker 7: there and having those Curfew centers.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's council member and I'll be on the Scottsland
Speaker 1: Show on seven hundred wwdews that the Curfew Center costs
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty thousand dollars almost four hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to operate the physical year. It's been open for
Speaker 1: close to almost eighteen months, and in that time we've
Speaker 1: had four kids have been put in the center, So
Speaker 1: that's a cost of about one hundred thousand dollars per kid.
Speaker 1: And I think everyone listening looks at that and goes, wow,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's not a good investment of money, even
Speaker 1: if it is to turing kids. When is the contract
Speaker 1: up By the way.
Speaker 7: Oh, I don't have the exact dates. I know our
Speaker 7: initial one was a year, so whatever that execution date is,
Speaker 7: so I think it will get us through this upcoming summer.
Speaker 7: I just don't know the exact all right.
Speaker 1: So here's a valid question. Let's say we signed over
Speaker 1: through the summer. We were committed to the contract, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. So I think it may be August
Speaker 1: for some reason. That's shipping in my mind, but we'll
Speaker 1: go through it. Let's say that there's really no sizeable
Speaker 1: uptick in the number of kids who are being held
Speaker 1: at the curfew center, why can't we simply end that contract?
Speaker 1: And if it's only four kids, can't we just have
Speaker 1: them at a police substation or at the juvenile justice center.
Speaker 1: I mean, why do we have to have a separate
Speaker 1: curfew center?
Speaker 7: Great question. So there was a lot of conversation of
Speaker 7: what should the curfew center be? Right, and so part
Speaker 7: of the contract and the cost is the staff. Right,
Speaker 7: you have to have someone there, right, We're not dropping
Speaker 7: people off in an empty building up and walking away.
Speaker 7: And we want our officers to be back on duty, right.
Speaker 7: We don't want the officer having to watch over and
Speaker 7: be taken off of their control for the night. So
Speaker 7: some of that cost is that the staffing piece of it.
Speaker 7: And we had conversations, right it should should it be,
Speaker 7: you know, a rec center, and I say no, we
Speaker 7: want rec centers to be this positive space for kids.
Speaker 7: We don't want them to have negative connotations with it.
Speaker 7: And the reason why the jail twenty twenty wasn't available
Speaker 7: was because this is not a criminal charge that would
Speaker 7: keep a kid over night, you know, And that was
Speaker 7: something I had to do some digging on. I'm not
Speaker 7: a lawyer, so please everyone, I did not go to
Speaker 7: law school, but I asked. I tried to ask a
Speaker 7: lot of questions, but essentially, you know, this is not
Speaker 7: a curfew violation, is not something that would a youth
Speaker 7: would be booked for at the jail, So that would
Speaker 7: not have given us the space to kind of spend
Speaker 7: the time there trying to contact the caretakers.
Speaker 1: Okay, can't we just hold them without booking, without processing?
Speaker 1: I mean they're waiting areas in full view of law
Speaker 1: enforcement officers. I'm sure maybe there's an anti room or
Speaker 1: something like that you could use. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: have to process this. People yeah, we have. Probably not
Speaker 1: everyone who comes to those doors are booked. There's plenty
Speaker 1: of people in there who aren't, and you know, things
Speaker 1: like property and everything else. I mean, can't we just say, hey,
Speaker 1: instead of being processed, we're going to put you in
Speaker 1: the side room next to the Sally boarder wherever they
Speaker 1: can keep an eye on you until your parents come.
Speaker 7: I don't control the jails or the Timpsons Center, So
Speaker 7: I don't want to say something here that's actually not
Speaker 7: get it right. But I do want to go back
Speaker 7: and emphasize, you know, Seven Hills Neighborhoods House in Life
Speaker 7: House are really trusted community partners that have staff that
Speaker 7: are specialized in Tomlin formed care and interacting with kids.
Speaker 7: So that was also part of it. How do we
Speaker 7: have the right staff around any kid who you know
Speaker 7: is caught up in this process that making sure that
Speaker 7: we're giving them resources and that staff that was trained
Speaker 7: to also be able to check with the kid on Hey,
Speaker 7: what other needs do you have? Like do you have stable?
Speaker 7: Is there is there someone who you can go home to?
Speaker 7: Because that was also concerned, what if we have a
Speaker 7: youth who's outlet, who's hold us? What do you do right,
Speaker 7: So we wanted to make sure we have that expert staff.
Speaker 7: So again it's beyond just the holding place, and it's
Speaker 7: also those wrap around services and support we are also
Speaker 7: providing to them through these experts that we have at
Speaker 7: seven Hills in the well.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that it's seven Hills and all that,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I mean, social workers are
Speaker 1: available twenty four to seven. Why can't you just have
Speaker 1: the social worker meet them at the General Justice Center
Speaker 1: or wherever they are holding this kid as opposed to
Speaker 1: having to have a separate facility. And we're paying four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for.
Speaker 7: And you know what, I don't know what the cost
Speaker 7: of having that kind of social worker on calls. You'd
Speaker 7: have to negotiate special contract for that either.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: So these are all questions that others looked into, and
Speaker 7: this felt like the best way to start out in
Speaker 7: the process. Again, we had no idea how many kids sure, right,
Speaker 7: because if you can remember a wild though, there were
Speaker 7: videos of like tons of kids down yeah, right, what
Speaker 7: if we had that situation and we needed a whole
Speaker 7: big space.
Speaker 5: So we just didn't know.
Speaker 7: And so I'm really excited and grateful that the administration
Speaker 7: took such a thoughtful approach and that we really thought
Speaker 7: through all these different scenarios and how do we make
Speaker 7: sure we keep kids safe. Because I'll be honest, I
Speaker 7: was hesitant personally to vote on this curfew enforcement because
Speaker 7: I did not want increased criminalization of our youth, nor
Speaker 7: did I want increased negative interactions between officers and kids.
Speaker 7: So being able to have this really thoughtful approach I
Speaker 7: think was really important to making sure everyone in this
Speaker 7: process is safe.
Speaker 1: Well, I disagree somewhat on that too, is it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily a high level criminal activity. But you know, being
Speaker 1: out of Africa, the fact that we have to set
Speaker 1: curfews because you know, kids are there's some kids that
Speaker 1: are out having fun and their parents are taking it
Speaker 1: very seriously. You have people who are working multiple jobs.
Speaker 1: It simply can't be around all the time with their kids.
Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. And then you have kids that are essentially
Speaker 1: fearal that the parents don't care about them, and all
Speaker 1: of those mean problems for our community, for police and like.
Speaker 1: And we don't want to vilify kids or try to
Speaker 1: get them help. I understand that, but you know, I
Speaker 1: think most people would look at us and go, wow,
Speaker 1: it's the kid gloves and the touchy feelings are good.
Speaker 1: But it's three hundred and eighty thousand dollars for four kids. Anna,
Speaker 1: you can't justify their cost.
Speaker 7: This was the first year. Like I said, Pilot, I
Speaker 7: think there are updates we can make and this will
Speaker 7: be a conversation.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 7: The report out this week was of the first time
Speaker 7: we've gotten all this information in one place and been
Speaker 7: able to really.
Speaker 3: Dig into the detail.
Speaker 7: So I personally excited to have that conversation of Okay,
Speaker 7: what does this look like going forward to your point
Speaker 7: you made earlier. It's really cool outside right now, right,
Speaker 7: so maybe this isn't a year long contract. If we
Speaker 7: know that people aren't going to be out when it's
Speaker 7: negative two degrees, you know, in the middle of winter,
Speaker 7: so you know, maybe there are some adjustments to be made.
Speaker 7: It really makes this effective and efficient. And you know,
Speaker 7: if it's only for kids and we're in we get
Speaker 7: in contact with their caretakers within the I think it's
Speaker 7: two or three hours. We're legally allowed to have kids
Speaker 7: kind of in our custody for well, okay, maybe that
Speaker 7: means the lighthouse piece was a good good thing to have,
Speaker 7: but maybe we don't need that going forward. These are
Speaker 7: all questions I think we can look at now that
Speaker 7: we have done this for a while. And frankly, I
Speaker 7: think this upcoming summer will be another good test because
Speaker 7: we didn't have this curfew in place at the beginning
Speaker 7: of last summer, So I don't know this might be
Speaker 7: different come May June July because we didn't have this
Speaker 7: in place last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's reasonable though, I totally understand what were sentient.
Speaker 1: I agree. It's like, hey, we did suddenly put this
Speaker 1: curfew center together because of the juvenile delinquency problem, but
Speaker 1: we only had four kids there, and you know, saying well,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have done it, That's just stupid for anyone
Speaker 1: to say that or believe that. I don't think that's sure.
Speaker 1: You go, well, okay, we learned from this, but moving forward,
Speaker 1: how do we balance the cause that three hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty grand that's going to pay for a few cops
Speaker 1: on the streets. For sure, our cameras, and I know
Speaker 1: you want more cameras in places where kids congregate.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, to be clear, you know, there's never enough resources
Speaker 7: for all the things we want to do. So we
Speaker 7: have to look at these things and be smart and
Speaker 7: critical of how we're investment money. So I think everyone
Speaker 7: on council will agree with that. And this is an
Speaker 7: area you heard council member Jeffreyes bringing up. He and
Speaker 7: I were kind of chit chatting too about it on
Speaker 7: the side, right, this is something we're going to look
Speaker 7: at and I think first year where we have our
Speaker 7: learnings and we can improve for next time. We didn't
Speaker 7: get it perfect, but I think we over rotated on
Speaker 7: making sure that we were compassionate and had this insurance
Speaker 7: policy in place. And I would rather have that than
Speaker 7: if something had gone really terribly wrong. Right, So I
Speaker 7: would rather always air on the side of compassion when
Speaker 7: it was something dealing with our kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go with the information you have and now,
Speaker 1: well we'll have a good sample size that time the
Speaker 1: contract is up to figure out if we want to
Speaker 1: continue this. I think that's completely reasonable. Right. The other
Speaker 1: element here too I mentioned this is that you know,
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty thousand dollars buy a lot more cameras.
Speaker 1: I know that's something you want to get moving forward
Speaker 1: and add more work. Basically where kids congregate, let's have
Speaker 1: more camra and you know, the digital surveillance to me
Speaker 1: seems to pay much more dividends than maybe something like this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I do have emotion coming up where I'm
Speaker 7: asking the administration to basically audit where we have playgrounds, parks,
Speaker 7: rec centers, right areas we want kids and families hanging
Speaker 7: out to look at, what does the lighting look like
Speaker 7: and what's the camera situation. Obviously I was on your
Speaker 7: show talking about the tragedy shooting of queener read right.
Speaker 7: That was a situation where she's in a playground area, right,
Speaker 7: she should have been sick. It's unimaginable that we had
Speaker 7: such a tragedy. So we need to do better.
Speaker 5: We absolutely need to do better.
Speaker 7: And in the report back that we got this week
Speaker 7: on where the investments had been around cameras and lighting,
Speaker 7: the focus has been on the quote right away, those
Speaker 7: streets and sidewalks. So if you can picture a playground
Speaker 7: a park, these improvements have been put in place already
Speaker 7: cover the street and the sidewalk, but the land inwards right,
Speaker 7: the actual park piece wasn't included in some of these
Speaker 7: street lighting and camera updates. So that is my ask
Speaker 7: now to the administration is to first look at specifically playgrounds,
Speaker 7: park rec centers where we have had shooting. Queen Arie
Speaker 7: is one area, but then also Grant Park had multiple
Speaker 7: teams shot last ball there in Grant Park. So there
Speaker 7: are places where kids are congregating, we want them to
Speaker 7: we want them to be, you know, shooting hoops and
Speaker 7: having fun that there's been shooting. So first let's do
Speaker 7: an audit of those locations as well as in neighborhoods
Speaker 7: that are our top five for gun violence. So those
Speaker 7: other locations, let's get this audit of what is the
Speaker 7: camera situation, what is the light situation? Okay, now let's
Speaker 7: come back and look like, look at what would the
Speaker 7: cost be to improve that infrastructure? Right, if we have
Speaker 7: these parks that are pitch black at six o'clock on
Speaker 7: a December evening, what would it take to actually get
Speaker 7: lighting in there to make sure kids.
Speaker 5: Can be safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it makes sense, and that I think it
Speaker 1: could be a great spend for that three eighty she
Speaker 1: is council Member Anna Alby. That's moving forward. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll get an update from you in the near future,
Speaker 1: because this thing has legs, is not going away and
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on how we're spending the money.
Speaker 1: I love it, Anna, all the best, have a great.
Speaker 7: Day, Thank you as much.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 1: Got a little bit more snow moving in for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I believe tomorrow anyway, it could be wet, could be well.
Speaker 1: Find out what the forecast is in just a few
Speaker 1: minutes and hopefully this is it for winter, but probably
Speaker 1: not on the way. Speaking of cold temperatures, which we
Speaker 1: still have ice damming. A lot of people have the
Speaker 1: gutters that have the giant icicles st lag mites that
Speaker 1: are coming down, and if that's you, you may have
Speaker 1: bigger problems going on. I will talk about that with
Speaker 1: my wife. Caught up next seven hundred WW She's the
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Speaker 1: It's realistic time with Michelle Sloan.
Speaker 2: All hail, the bestest Remax time agent I've ever met.
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Speaker 1: and on the phone day my wife Michelle Sloane, and
Speaker 1: I got a text this morning from my son and
Speaker 1: his girlfriend and at their house in Columbus. She's like,
Speaker 1: there's a stain in our ceiling in the kitchen. What
Speaker 1: does this mean? So I went through the whole check
Speaker 1: and wells and an outside well, yeah, well it's probably
Speaker 1: ice damming. This is the year. This is the time
Speaker 1: of year we start to see this stuff and you
Speaker 1: notice telltale stands in your ceiling, especially their outside walls.
Speaker 1: That is a huge problem. And roofers are going to
Speaker 1: do really, really well. Coming up here, my wife Michelle
Speaker 1: Sloan from Sloan cellsales dot com open house show on
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube as well.
Speaker 3: Good morning are you good morning? Yeah, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: we have more and more. The icicles that you see
Speaker 3: hanging off your gutters, yes, may be cool and look
Speaker 3: pretty and you may think, oh those are fun and
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna snap those off.
Speaker 1: Which you can.
Speaker 3: It is a bigger problem. It's likely to be a
Speaker 3: bigger problem. So do you have to be aware of
Speaker 3: ice damming? And we're not being political here.
Speaker 1: Right damn ice?
Speaker 3: Right? Well, this has been the worst winter I think
Speaker 3: that we have seen in Cincinnati for a really long time.
Speaker 1: It feels like, oh doubt, yeah, we had this snowfall
Speaker 1: last year, but this is like the cold is what's now.
Speaker 1: I believe I saw thirteen straight days, almost two straight
Speaker 1: weeks of sub zero or not subs or sub freezing.
Speaker 3: Temperatures right And this morning actually I was taking Mannon
Speaker 3: out for a walk and it was a little bit
Speaker 3: warmer yesterday, but there is a lot of icy patches
Speaker 3: at least on the sidewalks and the road day this
Speaker 3: morning because it got cold again, kind of looked pretty
Speaker 3: with all of the ice on the trees and stuff.
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people may not have
Speaker 3: a clue what ice damming actually is, right, and do
Speaker 3: you want to get into that or I have the
Speaker 3: It's basically the snow melting on the warmer part of
Speaker 3: the roof, right, and it runs down and refreezes on
Speaker 3: the roof edge and then the gutters creating a dam.
Speaker 3: The am not the am right.
Speaker 1: So here's what happens. So you've got it's an insulation
Speaker 1: problem primarily too. You need more insulation. You're at it,
Speaker 1: and it's a cold most bit, that's why you have
Speaker 1: it more. As colder it is, the more insulation you
Speaker 1: would need because what happens is the heat comes up,
Speaker 1: it melts, the snow runs down the roof, okay, grades
Speaker 1: and the gutter the gutter freezes up though, because it's
Speaker 1: not the insulation. And what happens is as the water melts,
Speaker 1: it continues to add on top of the ice. So
Speaker 1: the water can't go with the gutter and down. So
Speaker 1: the first thing you check is to make sure your
Speaker 1: downspouts and you can't do it now obviously your down
Speaker 1: spouts and gutters aren't packed with leaves, and that they
Speaker 1: slope the right way that the water's actually getting out.
Speaker 1: When it doesn't get out, it starts to fill like
Speaker 1: a bathtub. The water starts to spill over the edge,
Speaker 1: and that's what causes the icicles. And also what happens
Speaker 1: during that free thought cycle is the water starts a
Speaker 1: new water starts to freeze and it doesn't happen or
Speaker 1: to go except it goes back up the shingles. So
Speaker 1: if you look at shingles, right when you shingle a roof,
Speaker 1: you start the first course and there's underlayment stuff. I said,
Speaker 1: But the first course starts where the gutter is okay,
Speaker 1: and then you stack it up. So the overlaying layers
Speaker 1: is the water runs down, your roof will run down
Speaker 1: and you know it'll kind of skip over the shingles. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all well and good, But what happens when that
Speaker 1: water goes reverse, Well, it gets under the shingle, up
Speaker 1: the roof, and it continues to freeze. And then when
Speaker 1: it melts, because maybe there's there's not a insulation in
Speaker 1: the house, maybe there's the heat comes up and it's
Speaker 1: just enough to melt that. And you'll see closer to
Speaker 1: your wall, sometimes a little further out where those where
Speaker 1: the icicles are, you'll see water spots in your cylind gole.
Speaker 1: Where the hell is that coming from? That's the ice
Speaker 1: dam and what's going on?
Speaker 3: Right, And it can cause some issues, and there may
Speaker 3: not be a whole lot that you can do about
Speaker 3: it right this minute. But I have a list of
Speaker 3: things not to do that apparently some people have done.
Speaker 3: Don't use like a hammer or an ice pick or
Speaker 3: a hatchet or a shovel on your shingle. Don't try
Speaker 3: to climb up a ladder and get on there and
Speaker 3: try to pick that away.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do anything except, you know, maybe fall
Speaker 1: off your ladder and put a hole in your room.
Speaker 3: But you're going to do some damage, right damage.
Speaker 1: There's a dude I just saw this the other day,
Speaker 1: maybe last week in the New England States, maybe Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Guys like, well, I got this icing, and my guy,
Speaker 1: I gotta draw these gutters, gets up there with a
Speaker 1: flamethrower a torch. No, it burns some pass down. I'm
Speaker 1: not lying.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's that's definitely on the do
Speaker 3: not do list. The other thing is some people have
Speaker 3: put rock salt on their roof to melt the snow
Speaker 3: and ice. It's a bad idea, very bad idea.
Speaker 1: Because what happens is, yeah, it's so it can deteriorate
Speaker 1: the gutters prematurely, can corrode those, but also it'll stain
Speaker 1: the roof, and it's it's also danger. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that, you really need to get like
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the ice damming is happening where the downspout
Speaker 1: meets the gutter itself and there's some you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: if I got water flow and go there, I can
Speaker 1: get it out. Okay, you could get a sock and
Speaker 1: fill the with calcium chlorid. Don't use rock salt, but
Speaker 1: kelsim chlorid. Put that in there and just set it
Speaker 1: in the gutter. But you got to do that obviously
Speaker 1: do it when it's like this right now, it's very
Speaker 1: very dangerous, but it will meld in that one particular spot,
Speaker 1: but not the whole gutter. It'll free somewhere else. Now,
Speaker 1: if it's again it's just one clog somewhere and you
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to clear it out, that may
Speaker 1: help the situation. But I don't know. Is the risk
Speaker 1: worse the possible reward. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: No, probably not. We're all going to have to wait
Speaker 3: for it to fall, and I think I did see
Speaker 3: forties maybe next week, so that's a good thing. But
Speaker 3: the one long term prevention that you can do, and
Speaker 3: actually this is one of those things that you will
Speaker 3: get the return on your investment is increasing your attic insulation,
Speaker 3: and that is really important. Make sure that the all
Speaker 3: of the air fel around your attic. You know you're
Speaker 3: preventing that. Talk to a roofer. I mean, if you
Speaker 3: don't know what you're doing, then you could make it
Speaker 3: actually worse. Right, So, and we've always you know, say,
Speaker 3: keep your gutters clean, keep your gutters clean. Well, this
Speaker 3: is one of the main reasons why you want to
Speaker 3: make sure that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I know it's fun. You get the
Speaker 1: blower and the you go to the rental place, you
Speaker 1: go to a big box store and you buy certain
Speaker 1: number of bundles of blown in insulation. It's got a
Speaker 1: hose looks like a dryer hose, and you feed it
Speaker 1: and it's all fluffy. You blow it up there. But
Speaker 1: you do got to know what you're doing because you
Speaker 1: know if you blow the insulation into where another element
Speaker 1: with this too, I should point out, is and these
Speaker 1: two things sit together, is even in the winter, but
Speaker 1: especially in the summer, you got to make sure that
Speaker 1: attic is breathing. So you know, that's why you have
Speaker 1: some called a ridge vent. If you look and you're
Speaker 1: in your attic, which I don't how many people are,
Speaker 1: but at the very peak of it in the newer
Speaker 1: rooms you can see and look up and go, wow,
Speaker 1: there's a light coming through. Yeah. Also on the ends
Speaker 1: of the roofs you'll see like vents. Right, what does
Speaker 1: that do? It gets the heat out well. Also, no,
Speaker 1: you've got to have air exchange. It keeps the keeps
Speaker 1: mold and things like that out there. But you've got
Speaker 1: to have airflow through there. And if you don't, that
Speaker 1: is that's a recipe for disaster in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: including what we're talking about here, so it all fits together,
Speaker 1: is you've got to have atticates. The attics gott to
Speaker 1: be ventilated. You've got a proper amount of insulation up there,
Speaker 1: and if you do that, you're gonna avoid ice, damming
Speaker 1: and other issues that you're starting to see now. And
Speaker 1: this is the extreme of bit. Most people, most houses,
Speaker 1: as you've seen, are under insulated, especially the attic, because
Speaker 1: even if you have the blown in kind over the years,
Speaker 1: what happens is, if we think about it, a lot
Speaker 1: of dust and debris in the attic poll all these
Speaker 1: things blow in there through the venting, and what happens
Speaker 1: is it causes the insulation, the blowness to settle. It
Speaker 1: starts packing down a little bit. And the again, the
Speaker 1: two things with insulation is not only the type of insulation,
Speaker 1: but also the amount of air that's in there, so
Speaker 1: you actually need airspace to help insulate. If you pack
Speaker 1: the insulation down, even like you know the old the
Speaker 1: pink insulation, you've packed that down, it's less effective. You
Speaker 1: want want it to be as expansive as the cavity
Speaker 1: you're going to So if you look at you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you look at your attic and you know you
Speaker 1: can see the joists, the ceiling joys or up there
Speaker 1: would be the roof choice floor choyst rather, you know,
Speaker 1: you probably need more insulation. Man, I do it. I've
Speaker 1: done several and again you got to make sure you're
Speaker 1: not blowing it all the way down to where the
Speaker 1: eaves are, where the where the vents are, especially if
Speaker 1: you have those soft events. You know, you know, and
Speaker 1: it depends what you know. Our value it is and
Speaker 1: all that. But about good ten inches I think seems
Speaker 1: to be about right for us. But the colder it
Speaker 1: gets and these better temperatures, you're like, well, I need
Speaker 1: more insulation up there. This is kind of it feels
Speaker 1: like right now this is like the the one hundred
Speaker 1: year low. Well, yeah, you don't want to. Don't still
Speaker 1: your whole attic up to the up to the peak
Speaker 1: with with insulation. That's a bad idea. Don't do that.
Speaker 3: That's definitely bad. So ice damning. That is what we're
Speaker 3: dealing with an icicles some other February and there's these
Speaker 3: are the things that we're facing this one, especially since
Speaker 3: it's super cold. You want to be careful about your
Speaker 3: furnace and dryer vents to make sure that there's the
Speaker 3: snow build up is not around to this again, your
Speaker 3: air vents for we're dryer and your furnace come outside
Speaker 3: and you want it to be able to breathe. I
Speaker 3: actually looked at ours and there's a giant icicle because
Speaker 3: there's condensation coming outside. And there is a big icicle
Speaker 3: on the outside of our house right now, and I
Speaker 3: want to send that picture to you later. I'll probably
Speaker 3: post it on my on my blog as well. But
Speaker 3: you know, that's just naturally occurring, and that's going to
Speaker 3: happen because there's the water and the condensation is coming
Speaker 3: outside into the cold. It's going to create a little
Speaker 3: bit of moisture and water and it has it freezes
Speaker 3: right away. So as long as the and there's plenty
Speaker 3: of air flow around those vents, that's that's important because and.
Speaker 1: The other thing too is make sure so that icicle
Speaker 1: is it causing that vent not to open or it
Speaker 1: doesn't close all the way. That's a concern and you
Speaker 1: want to you know, break that off and try to
Speaker 1: clean it out if that's the case. If it's just
Speaker 1: below and the event works normally, like if it's a
Speaker 1: damper kind of the lid blows up and down right
Speaker 1: and it's still functional, works, and don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's causing that block, it's either
Speaker 1: keep it open because you're gonna have more cold air
Speaker 1: in your house, or you know, God forbid to go
Speaker 1: do laundry and you turn it on and that door
Speaker 1: doesn't open it and now all that exhaust is staying
Speaker 1: in your house. You don't want that, so just check it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and black events can also cause carbon monoxide issues,
Speaker 3: poor furnished performance, and again moisture problems, which we know
Speaker 3: except moisture problems can lead to mold other issues as well.
Speaker 1: But your house will smell like a dryer sheet, which
Speaker 1: is good, right, Oh, the dryers, the vented air stays inside,
Speaker 1: it's more humidity. And now you're gonna that that scent
Speaker 1: that stays in your close. Your whole house is gonna smell. No,
Speaker 1: sounds like it's a bounce house.
Speaker 3: I think that's wrong. I think we talked about because
Speaker 3: I don't know. Sometimes you say things and I have
Speaker 3: to question you.
Speaker 1: You're a real estate expert, What the hell do you
Speaker 1: now Anyway, my wife Michelle's here talking about ice damming
Speaker 1: and problems this summer with the severe cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So again, if you need you may need
Speaker 3: some help. We've had several home owners had problems with
Speaker 3: frozen pipe. If you open one of your thickets and
Speaker 3: it's on an outside wall and there's no water that
Speaker 3: comes out, it doesn't mean your waters off. It may
Speaker 3: mean that you have a frozen pipe. So you want
Speaker 3: to be really careful with that. Again, you may have
Speaker 3: to call a plumber or something if you're not a
Speaker 3: handy person. I've had some people use like a hair
Speaker 3: dryer to warm it up gradually so that that frozen
Speaker 3: pipe will unsaw. But we know the whole dripping action
Speaker 3: of keeping your doors open to your cabinet and making
Speaker 3: sure that there's air flow going in.
Speaker 1: The plumbers are going to be busy with the people
Speaker 1: if and we always we warn you know we do this.
Speaker 1: A segment is make sure in the in the fall,
Speaker 1: you are taking off the hoses on the outside of
Speaker 1: your house and people go live it's frost free. I've
Speaker 1: got a frost free one. Well, it's not freeze free,
Speaker 1: and especially the colder temperature that ice the ice in
Speaker 1: the hose will back up just like ice damming basically
Speaker 1: goes in and the the the energy from that will
Speaker 1: cause a copper pipe to split like a hot dog
Speaker 1: on a grill if you're not careful, if you don't
Speaker 1: take those things off, and if you don't have the
Speaker 1: frost free ones too, and you want to talk to
Speaker 1: a plumber about getting those changed out. If it looks
Speaker 1: like you know, this, this cold cold weather that we
Speaker 1: have is going to be every year and we're getting
Speaker 1: colder and colder, then you definitely want to do that.
Speaker 1: I know it's a little expensive, but it beats a
Speaker 1: flooded basement or wherever it might be, you know, to
Speaker 1: keep it out. If you have an unfinished basement, that's
Speaker 1: good because then you can actually see it. You'll see
Speaker 1: it when it you'll go around and go where all
Speaker 1: water come from, like the Titanic, where all's water come from.
Speaker 1: It's coming from a type. It's splint and it's not
Speaker 1: going to happen today, but it might happen sometime next
Speaker 1: week as the temperatures warm Upper shot in the spring,
Speaker 1: and plumbers are hell busy because of that. So the
Speaker 1: wettest stop at is take that home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the freezing thaw, freezing saw. To look around and
Speaker 3: this is really important, I think, just to know what's
Speaker 3: going on in your own home. Take a look around
Speaker 3: your foundation, look on the inside in your lower level,
Speaker 3: take a look at small cracks. Make sure that you're
Speaker 3: not seeing any water see in those areas. The other
Speaker 3: thing is right now is a good time because once
Speaker 3: all of this snow melt, your some pump is going.
Speaker 1: To be in over dry facts.
Speaker 3: So that some pump you want to test it. You
Speaker 3: want to make sure that it's working. And Scott, how
Speaker 3: do you do that?
Speaker 1: I've talked about this enough. You should know. I do know.
Speaker 3: You got a it's poor, a bucket of water, just.
Speaker 1: Like Okay, get this. This is the bet the bed
Speaker 1: is I'm the expert. Okay, a man explain it to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, get it. Get a bucket. If you got
Speaker 1: a five gollond bucket better, it's fewer trips and you
Speaker 1: dump the water in there and when that float comes up,
Speaker 1: it should eject all that water. If it doesn't, you
Speaker 1: got problems. But typically you're not going to check you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you haven't checked it in a while, you know,
Speaker 1: if you have a finished basement, you definitely want to
Speaker 1: invest in some sort of backup system. You want to
Speaker 1: check it right now? Probably not because that water's going
Speaker 1: to freeze coming back out. Yes, I'm meant to do that.
Speaker 1: Also when you're shoveling too, if you haven't done this ready,
Speaker 1: just try to keep it away from the foundation anywhere
Speaker 1: with the foundation. Get that snow away from the house,
Speaker 1: because if you just pile it up against you know, well,
Speaker 1: I'll just pile it over here against the foundations. Great,
Speaker 1: it's cold, but it's gonna melt and go straight down
Speaker 1: and that taxes further your whole drainage system. So try
Speaker 1: to get that, you know, good, three to four feet
Speaker 1: away from around. You don't have to. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'll go and shovel around your house. You know where
Speaker 1: the wall is. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: No, but you don't want six feet of snow piled
Speaker 3: up again career foundings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's just.
Speaker 3: A problem, exactly, exactly all right.
Speaker 1: My wife Michelle Sloan Bloone sells homes dot com openhouse show.
Speaker 1: You can hear that via the iHeartRadio app for free.
Speaker 1: You can check out the YouTube channel as well, and
Speaker 1: she jumps in every Thursday to talk about stuff like this. Okay,
Speaker 1: so ice damming and some pumps. That's what you gotta
Speaker 1: worry about right now, all right, Love, you gotta go,
Speaker 1: Gotta go. Willie is standing by next right afternoons back
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