WEBVTT - 11-18-25 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:06.359 As Davy or Basketball concludes, we begin It's a Nightcap 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.879 on a Tuesday night, November eighteenth, twenty twenty five, Geary 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:15.320 Jeff Walker with you. Tonight's show is packed with fun stuff, 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:21.000 including a revisit from our Money Music man from moneymusic 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.840 dot Com. 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With this stuff, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.319 you may be sitting on a pile of cash, not 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.039 just a pile of old albums or forty fives. So 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.160 I hope you're ready to plunge into the music tonight. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.280 We will get into that also on tonight's show Mark 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:31.040 Lee Gardner. He's an author, he's an old West nut, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.759 and he has written a brand new book about Wyatt 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.600 Erp and Doc Holliday. And you think you may know 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:44.440 the characters from movies like Tombstone or what you've read 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.880 about to Fight at the Ok Corral, real history is 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.560 a little bit different, and he's dived into it. So 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.400 we will talk to Mark Lee Gardner about his new book, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:02.240 a dueling biography called Others of the Gun a little 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.720 bit later on tonight. Also, Steve Gorham is coming up 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.000 fresh off of the cop the COP thirty as it 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.640 was called in Brazil, the latest climate conference. They do 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.160 this every year, and we'll see what kind of crazy 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.720 notions they cooked up there. You may have seen the 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:25.600 videos of Ikopod crane with better hair, Gavin Newsom, who 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.120 was spending time away from the state he's supposed to 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:34.440 be governing, and up in tree stands in the rainforest. Anyway, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:39.400 he's a fruitcake my opinion. We'll talk to Steve Gorham 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.280 about what was accomplished, what wasn't accomplished at the COP 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.920 thirty and is there any kind of actual data and 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.160 truth coming out of these conferences anymore? Or is it 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.760 just to keep the money train rolling so they can 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.680 continue to live off of everyone else and redistribute funds 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.080 all over the world from the workingman's pocket into theirs 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.680 again my opinion anyway. Steve Gorham coming up and Andy 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.880 Fourman before the Night is Done? Coming up next from 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.880 Gun Owners of America. Stephen Williford, the hero of Sutherland Springs, Texas, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.519 joins us once again. I hope you'll dig in and enjoy. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.760 It's the night cap and we are ready to roll. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:30.560 Next on seven hundred wlw oh a chance to visit 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.359 again with the hero of Sutherland Springs, Texas, the one 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.360 and only Stephen Williford, who is in the middle of 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:44.920 babysitting as we speak. Gun Owners of America, of course, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:49.520 is Steven's cause and the cause for all of America's 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.280 right to own and bear firearms. It should be everybody's cause. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.200 But Stephen, how are you doing? 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.000 I am joined superb So. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.920 You got grandchild there with you? 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.320 Yes, less than a month old, and and yes we're 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.680 headed to take my daughter to the dentist and I 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:13.840 get to hold onto my. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.760 Grand baby while she's having work done. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.280 So that's what we're doing today. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.680 So how many grand babies is this for you? 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.360 This is my night night the oldest and they all 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.080 live on my property and the oldest is seven. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.040 So that's phenomenous. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.640 Lots of grand babies all the time out of the house, and. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.880 So I'm truly blessed. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.279 It sounds like it. It sounds like it. What's new 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.160 on the Second Amendment front with going Unners of America. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:53.320 Well, obviously we're in the fight to get the get 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:59.000 the short bell rifles, shot gun and suppressors off the NFA, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.040 and we've even gotten with the Second Amendment Caucus, and 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:08.480 the Second Amendment Caucus is gone to Sam Boondian and 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:13.800 President Trump and had requested that Pam Boondi get on 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.520 board with this and so that we can uh for 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:24.679 your listeners, the big beautiful bill. We were able to 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.240 pull the. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:32.240 Pack off of suppossor shortbell rifles and shotguns, and we 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.760 tried to get him to pull him off the n 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.480 A thing, which is National Firems Act altogether. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:47.920 And the unelected bureaucrat, a parliamentarian, refused to do that, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.560 and so it went. I hadn't passed where. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.680 She did away with the packs, but it's still in 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:01.280 the registreet and so right away Gonna America filed to 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:06.080 fill or filed the lawsuit to get them pulled off 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.760 of the NBA because it's not attacked and it's a regulation. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.800 And in nineteen thirty four when it passed, that's a 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.280 prepty has said it cannot be a regulation. It can 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.400 be attacked, but it cannot be a regulation. So now 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.279 we have fouled because it's no longer attacked, but it 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.560 must be a regulation. And I would even say the 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.680 tack on one of our god given rights, the Bill 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:41.240 of Right, is a unconstitutional attack, and that has been 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.560 proven with the cold pack stuff like that also. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.240 But let me let me Steven, let me ask you, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.240 Let me ask you this. Why is the Attorney General 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:58.240 Pam Bondi balking at doing what we would figure she 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.080 knows is right? 0:06:59.400 --> 0:06:59.479 What? 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.640 Why she has she given a reason for maintaining this. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.960 You know, she claims to be the the best to 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:17.640 a attorney general in history, and that has been proven untrue. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:19.560 She is she is. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:26.800 Fighting us with several of Biden administrations encroachments on our 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:32.080 Second Amendment, and Gun Owners of America is calling her 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.360 out at every step of the way. Please go to 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:41.480 Gun Owners dot or org and sign up. President Trump 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.440 told her at the beginning of the administration go back 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.440 through all of these regulations and do away with them. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.160 And she has chosen not to do that. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.320 And you know, when lawsuits come up, she could say 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.560 the Department of Justice and he's with the Second Amendment 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.600 found base and then gun Owners of a need blocksuit 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:14.240 and instead to see it doubling down on the Biden administration. Uh, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.120 infringements on our Second amend. Please go to gud the 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.480 Owners dot o rt and sign up to be part 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.200 of the solution. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:24.600 Uh. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.280 Because we're we're fighting medicine. We have to send out 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.160 a message to Donald Trump him her in. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.840 Yeah, well, I mean the the attorney general is supposed 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:42.960 to be independent. However, Donald Trump appointed her attorney general 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.880 to enact his agenda and the people that voted for him, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:52.120 who support him, that definitely support fewer regulations, especially on 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.120 a Second Amendment. Right, Stephen, listen, I'm gonna let you 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.600 go ahead and continue your babysitting duties. It's a little 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.440 bit noisy, but I appreciate your time tonight. Brother. Okay, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:03.679 God bless you. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.760 I'm really really sorry about that, but God list you too, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:08.959 and thank. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.199 You ver, don't be sorry about it. Babies come, babies 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.320 come first. Man Stephen Williford from Gun Owners of America, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.600 and if you're interested in this topic, go to Gun 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:24.840 owners of America dot com and find out a lot 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:35.000 more about letting your voice be heard. All right, because 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.240 one gun guy isn't enough, let's make it too. I 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.520 felt bad for Stephen. He was traveling in a car 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.439 with a grand baby on his lap, and you may 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.560 not have gotten all of the things he was saying 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:52.440 about these restrictions that our Attorney General Pam Bondy has 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.160 still been reticent to lift, even though the Trump administration 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.920 insisted they were going to be a second a friendly administration, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.160 and I believe overall they have been to talk about 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:09.040 that and more. Mister goodgunbadguy dot com himself, Dan was 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.200 joins us for a few more minutes. So Dan, Stephen 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.040 is telling me about the restrictions on these short barrel 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.400 and other things, and maybe you can explain a little 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.160 bit better, so you know, the layman who doesn't have 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.400 an arsenal at their house like maybe you do, will understand. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:27.680 Well. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.480 Well, thanks for having me on the show, Gary, Jeff 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.199 I hope I can, hope, I can maybe give you 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.840 a few bullet points in a whole time we have. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.960 But if Stephen hasn't already mentioned it, the NFA was 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:44.560 the original gun registry scheme back in nineteen nineteen thirty four, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:50.480 and it was under Roosevelt, I believe, and he decided 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.600 to create this law because well under the guys of 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.800 you know, gangsters and prohibition and all that stuff. So 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.400 they use that as an excuse to create this National 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.599 Fighter Arms Act, which was a gun registry and attacks 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.120 on the specific items if you had them. It was 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.960 a two hundred dollars tax on you know, short shortbell rifle, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.200 short bell shotguns, suppressors and machine guns and some other 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:23.400 explosive type devices. Recently we got rid of that two 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.720 hundred dollars tax, which means there's no reason any longer 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:27.880 for the registry. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:32.360 But apparently some people in our government still think that 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:37.239 the registry is necessary. And that is probably the worst part, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.280 because we all know what happens after guns are registered. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.720 You know that that's that leads to confiscation, and and 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.959 we don't we don't want our names on any government list. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.400 No, no, I'm sure my name is on several of them, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.440 and probably yours too, just because of the nature of 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.160 the stuff we talk about on a regular basis and espouse. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.400 By the way, as an aside, what's up with your governor, Hokeel, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.280 they're shooting her bubble gun? Did you see that? 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.040 I didn't see that. But she is. She is a clown, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.160 and she's gonna do anything she can right now to 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.080 be pretend to be relevant. But at least the phonic well, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.360 I happen to know. I've done a few, a few 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:23.120 speaking events. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:24.199 I like her. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.920 Fantastic woman, and she's gonna she's gonna clean vocals, She's 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.000 gonna clean hold clock good. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:38.719 Somebody needs to Yeah, you know what, Hochel is a 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:43.040 perfect representation of people standing in the way of our 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.400 constitutional rights in this country time after time after time. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.240 And it's not just about guns. It's not just about 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.600 the Second Amendment, but about many of the things that 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.080 are guaranteed to us by God according to the Founding 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:01.400 Fathers in the Bill of Rights, and they those rights 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:09.240 are restricted or blocked by people who are unelected bureaucrats. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.720 Kathy Hochel was appointed to that position as governor of 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.520 New York and then because you live thanks to New 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.520 York City in a one party state, got re elected 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:26.440 as governor in a close fight against lee Zelden. But again, 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:33.079 the unelected bureaucrats, the administrative state in Washington, d C. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.600 Whomever it may be, the ones that are beholden to 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:43.840 these regulations and anequated acts and unconstitutional things that have 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:48.000 been done by our government are not elected. Many cases, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:53.480 they're appointed, or they just fail up through the ranks, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.680 and they stand in the way of the American citizen 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.520 and true liberty, do they not? 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.080 Yeah, and you sound like you're talking about at F. Uh, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.880 you know people people in the ATF, because a lot 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.520 of times they create these policies, these firearm policies and 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:20.200 basically turn gun owners into felons overnight without anybody voting 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.960 for this stuff. So that's one of one of the 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.640 problems we have. As second i'm in advocates and is 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.240 the ATF. It hasn't been run. It hasn't been run, right, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.800 And you're you know, the unelected bureaucrats that are involved, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.360 they're really taking advantage. But of course the Democrats, you know, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.560 cheer them on every every chance they get. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.960 Well, because uh, an armed citizenry is a threat to 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.720 their their ultimate takeover of power. I think that's as 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.440 simple as as I can make it there. But but 0:14:53.560 --> 0:15:01.480 the ATF is another example, another example of of a 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.440 government agency that simply shouldn't exist. I think, what do 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.120 you think about that? What would you think about the 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:12.360 elimination of alcohol, tobacco, firearms explosives as an agency in Washington, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:12.680 d C. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.040 Well, well, first of all, what are they doing with 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:21.600 respect to alcohol or tobacco? 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:23.160 Nothing? 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:28.000 Right, I don't know you ever hear anything? No that 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:34.560 that agency is pretty much designed to regulate firearms. And 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.320 it's I never voted for anybody on the ATF, did 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.480 you no? 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.480 And our constitution doesn't call for an ATF to be 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.040 a part of our government that makes decisions on the 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:47.840 everyday citizens' lives. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.200 Exactly. This is, you know, this is why we have 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.680 groups like in honors of America Second Amendment Foundation, the 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:02.360 NRA Firearms Policy Coalition, And we had to have these groups. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.880 We the people created these groups because we saw that 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.240 regardless of what our founding father said, right the people 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.080 to keep them bear arms shall not be infringed, they 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:18.600 still infringe. So we needed more leverage and more tools 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.400 to fight them back in court. And so I just 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.720 urge everybody to sign up with your with your favorite 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.200 national group and give them your money for the membership 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.800 because they need it for these court cases. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.480 All Right, Dan was thank you as always my friend, 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.120 Good Gunbadguy dot com. You can find him there, You 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:41.440 can find him loaded mic on YouTube, and many many 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.760 times you'll find him in publications like AMMO Land and 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:48.960 the like. Dan was back with us again tonight for 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.960 a brief moment or two, and we appreciate it. Mighty 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.280 John Marshall is coming up at the top of the 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.440 hour with a brand new list from Moneymusic dot Com 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.560 valuable Vinyl that you may be holding on to find 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.560 out in just a few The one question on a 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.880 lot of people's minds is what is AI really and 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.920 are we in any danger not only as human beings 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.880 but as a country when it comes to the AI 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.639 war that's being waged right now between communist China and 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.080 the United States and the rest of the world. Really, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:32.320 China wants to be the dominant AI manufacturer or I 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.119 don't even know if manufacturer is the correct word, but 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:40.880 they want to be the dominant country in AI artificial intelligence, 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.720 and so does the United States, and the President and 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.760 his cabinet, his administration have made major moves in the 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.560 last few months to try and make sure the United 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.400 States is dominant and communist China. This has been their 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.000 goal for a long long time in there still doggingly 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.320 pursuing it. So to talk about all of that, we've 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:09.080 got a disaster response Telecom National security person from SAT 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.640 one two three, a season entrepreneur with career spanning tech, satellite, 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:20.359 communications and emerging technologies, i e. AI. Chris Hohrer joining 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.720 us for a few minutes. Chris, good evening and how 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:23.040 are you. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:25.920 I'm great and good evening to you, Jeff. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:26.920 Thanks for having me on the show. 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:32.159 You bet you so you worked? How long have you 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.119 been working in emerging technologies? For example? Has this been 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:36.919 your whole career. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.040 It's been a lot of it for about the last 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.160 twenty years, but particularly in the last ten looking at 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:49.560 specifically data storage, cloud compute and so on, and of 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:55.000 course that merged into what's become AI. And AI certainly 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.080 is a tool that many people are starting to use, 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.320 but behind the scene, it's been in use for quite 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.520 some time, and it's being put in charge of all 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:09.400 kinds of systems, from communications to transportation to and now 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.800 we're seeing it creep into weapons. So this is certainly, 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.320 I would say, a war for dominance. And the CCP 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.359 with their latest five year plan which ends in twenty thirty, 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.240 the goal of that five year plan is to completely 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:31.120 dominate the production of equipment and software and everything else 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.440 regarding AI, and so they're looking for world domination. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:39.800 The Center for Security Policy put out a report that 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.439 said artificial intelligence is the new Cold War between the 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.840 US and China. Before you thought of a cold war 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:52.280 as the nuclear arms race, and this is the AI 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.280 arms race. They've been warning that the Chinese Cammunist Party, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.879 as you said, right there, on the verge of becoming 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:04.800 the world's leader in artificial intelligence, and if they succeed 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:10.159 in this domination by twenty thirty, will be relegated to 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:15.600 a second rate power and worse the US. One of 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:20.960 the things that dominate the discussion on AI is the intense, 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.960 extreme amounts of energy it takes to operate the data 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.800 centers and AI and keep it going. And Communist China, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:37.760 China is building like a fossil fuel powered plant, a 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:42.040 coal burning energy plant. Almost every week, and they have 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.639 been for quite a while. Well, the US was held 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:51.880 back in our energy pursuits by the previous administration and 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.960 this Green New Deal mentality that has proven to be 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.560 based on false computer modeling and bad data, bad science. 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.960 And now we're back up to speed. And many of 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.040 these data centers that are going in in the United 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.840 States have their own power plants, isn't that true? 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.520 Well yeah, look, I mean there's two things required for 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:19.560 the production of AI overall. One is rare earth elements, 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.080 which the Chinese have been doing a good job, unfortunately 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:25.400 rolling up around the world. 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:26.879 Right now they control. 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.960 Sixty to seventy percent of the world's production of rare 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:34.399 earth elements. But more importantly, they've become masters and have 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.480 them really monopoly on the refining of these elements, where 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.280 they're looking at around ninety percent of market dominance in 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.280 the refining of these elements. And what these elements do 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:49.159 is everything from provide they enable us to create screens, 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:55.800 fiber optics, and chips all that are essential for running AI. 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:00.320 But yeah, the Chinese certainly have long anticipated the need 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.400 for immense amounts of power, and outside of coal, they've 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:09.679 also unfortunately stolen us innovation in the nuclear industry that 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:14.840 we innovations that we created in the sixties, seventies and 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.480 eighties and then abandoned. They've picked up on as such 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:24.360 as fast breeder reactors and gas called reactors. So they 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.000 have certainly seen this coming and they've been thinking moves 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.080 for many years. So we certainly need to be fighting back. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.639 But they're also now using as our others AI for 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.359 cyber warfare. We've been in cyber warfare as far as 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.560 I'm concerned, for many years, but it's heating up with 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:44.000 AI because of the amount of queries that can be 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.880 run and the amount of intrusions that could be operated autonomously, 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:50.399 and so that is certainly a big threat to us 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:50.960 at the moment. 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.720 You talk us about talk about the United States being 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:59.159 relegated to a second tier power. If the CCP actually 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.639 achieves their goal here in the next five years, what 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.280 are the biggest dangers to everyday life in America if 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:12.120 the CCP is dominating AI and to we're lagging behind. 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.879 Well, Look, I mean AI can be used for many things. 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:20.000 One is manipulation of facts, and you can create its 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.560 own facts, of course, or it can position facts, or 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.199 or you know in a way that suits them. It 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:30.840 can also normalize that hardent behavior by just repeating it 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:35.879 consistently throughout the social media networks and that are around 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.640 the world that we all rely on and use every 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.080 single day. But it can also control the standards, and 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:42.680 that's what we don't want to see. We have long 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.760 time here in the US controlled the standards for electronics 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:47.800 and software, and so they've had to kind of live 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.440 with those. But if we let AI control and dominate 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.240 the standards, we let trying to control and dominate the 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.160 standards of AI, and then I think that's worrisome because, 0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.960 like the US is a country based on religious Christian values, 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.160 and China it doesn't have that to get those kind 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.399 of guardrails. I mean, some would say that it has Confucianism, 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.399 which you know, does have its own set of values. Maybe, 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.480 but I think it's a little worrying. I mean, China 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:19.600 and the CCP seem to use values to further their 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.320 own call and they change them depending on what is 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.520 the what are the goals of the CCP at any 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:25.080 given time. 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:25.480 Yeah. 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:29.160 I was talking to another guest earlier in the week, Chris, 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.800 and we're talking about well, yeah, Christianity is allowed in 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.760 communists China, but they've rewritten the Bible for the CCP's 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:42.280 otal purposes. So yeah, that kind of manipulation has already 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.600 gone on in communists China. Imagine them being able to 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.440 through technology, spread it to the rest of the world, 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.640 including our part of the world. That is pretty scary 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.800 in and of itself. But what's what's the answer for 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:56.720 the United States? 0:24:58.160 --> 0:24:59.359 Well, I think the answer is. 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.520 Look, I mean, if you're a university of private company. 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:06.280 And you're developing technology, you are basically obliged to share 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.040 that with the government. You don't really get any choice 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:13.480 in that. And so they've used that system to enrich 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:18.119 their knowledge and create you know, these huge markets that 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.320 they have, and of course they also produce everything, right, 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.640 so they kind of can have the ability to control 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:28.400 and produce from any kind of innovation that goes on inside. 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.280 The country, as well as trying to steal our innovation. 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:31.600 So I think we need to. 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:36.640 Be more guarded about our technology and our ip but 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.719 the government certainly, you know, should and I think it's 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:45.760 starting to enable private companies, you know, to fill these 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.560 roles that are going to be needed, whether it's you know, 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.960 software creation, LLLM creation. 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:52.840 Or elsewhere. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.800 But the government needs to work in conjunction with private 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.439 business as far as enabling it and cutting the red tape. 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.240 You know, I mean, this is a war, and you know, 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.240 I don't think the government should be allowed to do anything. 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.560 They should enable us to do anything that is going 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.679 to help protect this country going forward. 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.960 Well, President Trump is on record as saying he's you know, 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:19.800