1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: All right, seven hundred WLW. It's nine Thanksgiving Eve. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Carroll. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: This is the Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: We'd like to call the show We Go till Midnight 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: tonight and Man terrible loss for you see no way 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: to sugarcoat that one Eastern Michigan. West Miller not very 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: happy after the after the debacle at the fifth third 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Center tonight. So we'll see what happens with the Bearcats 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: down the road. But I am very glad as always 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: to welcome in my first guest tonight. Kevin Aldridge is 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the opinion editor at the Cincinnati Inquirer, and Kevin Aldridge 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: is great to have you on the show. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: How are you tonight, Dan, Always a pleasure to talk 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: to you. 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: How you doing. 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm great. I want to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving. 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: But there's going to be sort of a dark cloud 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: over this Thanksgiving Giving, the events that have unfolded in Washington, 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: d C. With a couple of National Guard members shot 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: and apparently clinging to life at this moment. Let me 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: have your reaction to those events in d C today. 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: This is sure I think to reignite again the debate 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: over migration in this country, whether you're. 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Here illegally illegally. 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Again, the rhetoric that we hear are political rhetoric surrounding 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: what federal agents are doing, what National Guard units are doing, 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: what is going on to try in and combat violence 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: in cities like d C, like Chicago, like New York. 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on the events that are unfolding 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: as we speak. 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think the first thing that you know 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: needs to be said is prayers need to go up 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: for these two National Guard members as well as their families, 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: and we pray that you know that that they're able 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: to recover and that the worst doesn't happen in this situation. 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: And I think you know, we we all have to 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: unequivocally denounce violence like this. There can be no equivocation 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: or no it's ands or butts to it. I mean, 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: we have to we have to denounce it. We have 40 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: to say it's unacceptable, and we have to call on 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: each other to be better, to to support law enforcement 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: and and try to get you know, these types of 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: individuals who will commit these types of crimes off our streets. 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: But I think we also have to resist the temptation 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: to try to politicize these incidents, Dan, because I think 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: that's that's part of the problem. 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there there will. 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: Be some people who will say because apparently this is 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: a targeted attack, and I don't know if this is 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: in response to you know, President Trump deploying National Guard 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: members to these cities to to fight crime, and a 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: lot of people think that that is that that move 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: in and of itself was a was a political move. 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: And and I just think the issue of crime is 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: too serious, whether we're talking about here in Cincinnati or 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: in the nation's capital or anywhere in the country for 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: us to try to to to politicize these issues. And 58 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: I think it's not good for law enforcement, it's not 59 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: good for law abiding. 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Citizens in this country. 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: And I just think we've got to find a way 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: to talk about these these very serious issues of crime, 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: which we can't act like don't exist, but deal with 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: them in a way that is that is constructive, that 65 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: allows people to get due process and and you know, 66 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: protects all of our rights but also gets the worst 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 3: elements off of our streets. And and I think we're 68 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: smarter than we have been in terms of how we 69 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: do with this, but we got to come out of 70 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: the We got to come out of our political tribes, 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: We got to come out of this nation and try 72 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: to or try to come out of this division that 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: we have in the nation and come up with some 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: common sense solutions to this issue, because you know, we 75 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: just can't continue to go on like this as a country. 76 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: And it's definitely a tragedy and and you hate for 77 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: something like this to happen anytime, but particularly right before. 78 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: A holiday where you know, where. 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: We celebrate what we're grateful for and thankful for and 80 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: our freedoms in this country and other things. 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: It's just saying, yeah, how many times have we heard 82 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: this debate though, about cooling the rhetoric and you know, 83 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: trying to elevate the level of our political discourse. And 84 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: we get these lectures and we hear all these different 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: politicians come out and pontificate, and then about a day 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: goes by and we start here in the same terms 87 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: nazi and brownshirt and fascist and all these terms being 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: thrown out again. It seems like it we are quick 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: to get back on that track, especially when we have 90 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: a series of incidents like we're seeing right now. 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think this is and I don't think 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: this is exclusive to one side of the aisle, right, 93 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: I think both sides do it. And one of the 94 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: things that I've been critical of a lot of times 95 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: when I write about these issues is leadership. 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: You know, I believe that. 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: It starts at the top, that it starts at the 98 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: top with everybody, starting with our President, who I think 99 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: we just have to admit, is not the It doesn't 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: lay off the rhetoric himself or the hyperbole, and that 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: doesn't help it that it comes from the top levels 102 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: of our government, and then it trickles down. I mean 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: that that doesn't exempt any member of Congress, Republican or 104 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: Democrat from engaging in the same kind of hyperbolic rhetoric 105 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: that doesn't do anything but further devis us. And I 106 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: really feel like our leaders have to have cooler heads, 107 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: they have to be smarter, they have to choose their 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: words wisely. 109 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: Dan, I think. 110 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: About every word that I use, whether I'm writing it 111 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: or whether I'm speaking to somebody. I think about what 112 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: I want to say before I say it, and is 113 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 3: it constructive or destructive to the conversation. And it just 114 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: it pains me that our political leaders don't do that 115 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: and instead of trying to appeal to the better angels 116 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: of every American, I think they played to the lowest 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: common denominator. They play to our biases, our fears, and prejudices, 118 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: and that's just not good. Whether you're a Republican or 119 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: a Democrat, it's got to start at the top. And 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: then I also think each one of us bears the 121 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: responsibility as well. You know, when Donald Trump first won 122 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: the presidency, I wrote a piece that said, you know, 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: it's not Trump, it's us. You know, Donald Trump can 124 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: say whatever he wants to say if you don't like him, 125 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: whether you like him or you don't like him, he 126 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: doesn't control your social media fee, what you choose to 127 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: put out, what you choose to say. And I always say, 128 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: if you don't like the tone in this country, then 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: you need to check your own see what kind of 130 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: tone you're contributing to the conversation. So while I think 131 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: it starts at the top, with all of our leaders 132 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: starting at the very top, I think each one of 133 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: us bears a responsibility to be responsible in our conversations 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: as well and not get caught up in contributing to 135 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: this negative discourse that's going on out there, and it's 136 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: easy to do if you you know, I mean, if 137 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: you follow any social media, and unfortunately I have to 138 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: consume more of it than I would like because of 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: what I do. You know, some of these spaces are 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: just so toxic and so nasty. It's just it's unbelievable. 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: And you just want to think, like man, you want 142 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: to think your fellow person is better than that. But 143 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: if you spend too much time in social media, you 144 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: start to wonder. But I tend to think that, you know, 145 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: most of us want to try to get along, want 146 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: to try to figure out the best solutions. And I 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: think people who feel like that have to be more 148 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: vocal in holding all of our leaders to account, not 149 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: just the ones we don't like, but even the ones 150 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: who are on our side, holding them more to account, 151 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: to be more responsible. 152 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: Well, that is very well said. Let me turn our 153 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: attention to to local matters here now. And this is 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: the first time you and I have talked since after 155 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the most recent election. And it was a day or 156 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: so after the election. I asked Chris smithaman in the 157 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: same question about a week or so ago, and it 158 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: was a day or so after the election. There was 159 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: some violence on Short Vine, a couple of different incidents there, 160 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: and just a couple of days ago we had the 161 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: Kroger up there in Coryville that had the windows shot out. 162 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: We've got the issues going on with the Privy nightclub, 163 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: and so I put a post out there and I 164 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: asked Chris smitham in this, I said, I said, the 165 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: voters of Cincinnati apparently won it this way because they 166 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: have returned the exact same mayor, the exact same city 167 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: council that really did not address crime in a serious way. 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: They gave it some some lip service, you know, the 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: ordinance that created a curfew that has so many holes 170 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: in it you could drive a truck through it. And 171 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: I asked Chris Smithman, I said, is that a fair 172 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: comment that this is the way the voters of Cincinnati 173 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine point eight percent turnout? Just absolutely horrible when 174 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: you talk about the turnout for the vote, but the 175 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: people who vote in this town, the violent situation we 176 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: have right now, I don't see why we have any 177 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: any really concrete reason to believe that it's going to change. 178 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: And apparently this is the way the voters want it. 179 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Is that a fair comment? 180 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 181 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: I don't think it's totally fair. I see how one 182 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: would say that, right, because you elect pretty much all 183 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: of the same council members, say, for one new one 184 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: new gentleman who you know pretty much replaced Victoria Parks 185 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: and was part of the Democratic ticket. There, I could 186 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: see why one would say that. But here, here are 187 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: a couple of things that I would say to look 188 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: a little bit deeper at that. One, when we look 189 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: at voter turnout, there's still a fraction of the people 190 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati who are registered to vote, who actually engage 191 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: in the process of voting. And so I always hate 192 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: that when I see that, because what it says is 193 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: that there's a very small number or small percentage of 194 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: residents of Cincinnati who pretty much decide how the rest 195 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: of them live. You know, thirty percent of registered voters 196 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: decide how the other seventy percent of the city is governed. 197 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: And how they live. 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Now, that's a pitiful turnout for an important election like this. 199 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And so you know, one would say, well, 200 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, that's the fall of those who you know, 201 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: who don't get out to vote, and and you know 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: who knows why that's the case. Why you know that 203 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: other seventy percent of so people don't don't show up 204 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: to vote, and you know, you kind of get the 205 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: government you deserve, as they say at that point, if 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: you don't really engage in the process. The other thing 207 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: I looked at was is that, you know, Cincinnati has been, 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: you know, a blue city, and it seems to be 209 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: getting deeper blue. And what I think really happened to 210 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: some of the non Democratic candidates in this election is 211 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: this was I think this election was as much a 212 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: referendum on Trump and the national politics in Cincinnati and 213 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: maybe in other parts of the country, then it says, hey, 214 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: we're completely and totally okay with with the status quo. 215 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you are if you live in 216 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Cincinnati and you're a blue city, and you know, I 217 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: think I told you this before the election when you 218 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: asked me if Corey Bowman, if I thought Corey Bowman 219 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: had a chance to win, I told you no. And 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: my percentages were probably pretty much right on. 221 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: The money, right on the money on that one. 222 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: I was I just hope I was holding out up 223 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a miracle might happen, but that it didn't work. 224 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: Out that yeah, yeah, no. And and that's because I 225 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: could kind of see coming what happened? And and I 226 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: even wrote in my column afterwards that you know, and 227 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: I wrote this to the mayor that he shouldn't mistake 228 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: the landslide that he got as a love letter, because 229 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: I think that if there had been and this would 230 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: never happen, because the party is not going to run 231 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: another Democrat against an incumbent unless there's you know, some 232 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: rogue element of the party who just wanted to challenge him. 233 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: But if but I think if he would have had. 234 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: A a stronger, maybe democratic challenger or alternative, maybe a 235 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: Democrat who was you know. 236 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 2: A little bit more. 237 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: You know, center left or something like that, with some 238 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: different ideas and different approaches, he might have had a 239 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: much harder time winning this election than he had against 240 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: Corey Bowman in Cincinnati just wasn't going to elect a Republican, 241 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: really any Republican, but particularly one that had such such 242 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: close ties to JD. Vance and what is perceived as 243 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: the Maga movement. I mean, you know, how many times 244 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: did how many times did have to have say that 245 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: in the debate that we hosted, did he bring up Maga, 246 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: Maga Maggay. 247 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: That was definitely part of the strategy well, Kevin Aldiens, 248 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to leave it right there because we're 249 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: short on time, all right, But as always I appreciate 250 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: the thoughtful commentary. All the best to you and your 251 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: family for a great Thanksgiving and we will be talking 252 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: again soon, I certainly hope. But all the best to you, 253 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Aldridge and this everyone at the Inquiry and keep 254 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: up the great work. And thanks again for being part 255 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: of the show tonight. I always appreciate it. 256 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks the Happy Thanksgiving to you and. 257 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: All your listeners. 258 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Kevin Aldridge from the from 259 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Enquirer nine six at seven hundred WLW. 260 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW. It is ten o eight. 261 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: This is the Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis 262 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: on this Thanksgiving Eve. Glad to be here, Glad you 263 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: are here as well. I'm Dan Carrol'll be here till 264 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: midnight tonight and always great to welcome in. 265 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: One of my favorite guests. 266 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: That's my buddy Curtis house from NewsBusters dot org and Curtis, 267 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: what does hey, what does Thanksgiving look like at the 268 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: at the Curtis house household. 269 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 5: Well, I just finished Thanksgiving with the in laws here 270 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: well winded down. I'm finishing some the hot apple fighter here. Uh. 271 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: We got a box of crayons that Denise's and nephew 272 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 5: were playing with earlier, and we got to do a 273 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: turkey trot in the morning. Dan the wife and I 274 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 5: have to go run. So my wife was a d 275 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: run track and cross country runner, so she wasn't gonna 276 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: let me go Turkey Day without that. So so we 277 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: got that to do. 278 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: And I do not endvie you. I did not endvie 279 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: you for that task. 280 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 5: So I'll considering considering last year was about thirty five 281 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: degrees and raining tomorrow thirty seven degrees in about fifty 282 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: MinID hour winds. That's you know, that's Florida weather compared 283 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 5: to what I dealt with the a year ago. 284 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: That sounds like what we're going to have here for 285 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: the for the big Turkey race tomorrow. But you've been 286 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: busy today covering essentially from the moment this story broke 287 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: in DC with a couple of National Guard members attacked 288 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: in d C. Give give my listeners a flavor of 289 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: the sort of coverage that has been coming from the 290 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 1: CNNs and the MSNBC's and the cn C and ABC's 291 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: of the World ever since his story broke. 292 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I'll just say is, it is 293 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: the Farragut West Metro station where the shooting took place. 294 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 5: It's not a residential area, folks, look it up on 295 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: Google Maps. It's right by the White House. It's right 296 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: by Lafayette Park. Okay, if you've ever been to Washington, 297 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: So it's very much a office park, office area. There 298 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: might be some hotels, but not really a nightlife area. 299 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: This isn't, like, you know, one of the areas that 300 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: was a major focus of the President's surge of resources 301 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: to cut down on crime, which makes it all the 302 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: more tragic. But nonetheless, members of the National Guard have 303 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: remained there since the summer, just making sure metro stations 304 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 5: are safe. And I know for a fact personally just 305 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 5: riding the metro to different events in Washington. It has 306 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 5: been nice to just have a few of them overlooking 307 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: the escalators, you know, at all times of the day. 308 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 5: You know, this is what I'm thinking about. What I 309 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: want to say here, Dan to you is this is 310 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 5: another Charlie Kirk test. This was a very shocking, sudden story. 311 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: The media's minds, we're not thinking about this kind of thing, 312 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: not that you ever are, but you know, you know, 313 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 5: a Dana news at this time of the year, in 314 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: local news, the focus is travel, travel, travel, weather, weather, weather, right, 315 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: and some football, And so this is the last thing 316 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: that you're thinking about right now. And so what is 317 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 5: your genuine reaction, you know, the thoughts and prayers, concern 318 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: and how horrible this was another act of violence against 319 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: people who defend our country and keep us safe. Or 320 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 5: are you gonna do what MS now is Kendelanian did, 321 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 5: which is kind of suggests that, you know, there's a 322 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 5: lot of controversy in the United States with ice and 323 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: you know, people wearing masks in uniforms. So there's a 324 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: lot of Americans out there who object to that kind 325 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 5: of thing. And so the shooting has happened. It's like, 326 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 5: what what this was? At three o'clock Eastern time, just 327 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: maybe twenty minutes after we first learned of the shooting, 328 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: that's where this guy's mind went. We saw this on 329 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: ABC News, we saw us on CBS, we saw this 330 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 5: on CNN. People say, well, there's a lot of rhetoric 331 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: in the country right now about immigration. There's a lot 332 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 5: of you know, feelings about the president's immigration policies, even 333 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 5: though we don't have any evidence. Of course, Dan, we're 334 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 5: going to speculate anyway, because the cable news, if they've 335 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 5: been watching it, speculation, they've. 336 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: Been observing this from afar, not participating in it, just 337 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: observing it, of course. 338 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 5: Right, observing, Yes, neutral arbiters as they like to tell us, Dan. 339 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: Yes, that's absolutely. 340 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: But you know, I've I've been reading all the posts 341 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: you put out on on your social media. I'm reading 342 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I've got the piece that you've got up on Newsbus 343 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: right now on my computer, and it seems to me 344 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm wrong. But they operate 345 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: from the baseline. Their baseline is when they when they 346 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: cover an event like this or really any event that 347 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: has to do with Trump, is that Trump is in 348 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: the wrong. And in this case, he's in the wrong 349 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: because he asked for National Guard members to be in 350 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: our various cities in DC, yeah, in Portland, in Chicago. 351 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: So this policy we all know. Their baseline is, we 352 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: all know this policy is wrong, and the rest of 353 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: our coverage is going to flow from that baseline. 354 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, if it weren't for you know, you guys are 355 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 5: like triggering people out there that are unstable by surging 356 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 5: law enforcement resources to high traffic areas. Like that logic 357 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: is just so backwards. You know, it's the fault of 358 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: the now National Guards. Then you know, it's the fall 359 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 5: of the president that these National guardsmen were shot because 360 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: he put them in a city that is opposed to them. 361 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: Even though people are unders you know, non understanding or 362 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: I don't be you know, crazy, people don't understand, as 363 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: in a lot of liberals in Washington, that there's such 364 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 5: a thing as a deterrent, you know that like putting 365 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: these folks in in their uniform jackets. They're not there 366 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: with their machine guns, they're not there with their tanks. 367 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: They're just watching. They're very friendly. You know, they've been 368 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: nothing but gracious. Other than maybe a fender bender incident. 369 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: As far as I know, there hasn't been any problems 370 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: with either the DC National Guard or any of the 371 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 5: states that have deployed there. And so to suggest that, 372 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: you know, while the President put them in this position 373 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 5: and therefore it's the president's fault, just absolved the you know, 374 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 5: this individual, this reported Afghan refugee, shout at Alu Lockbard. 375 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 5: If any responsibility whatsoever. It absolves the Biden administration who 376 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 5: allowed him into this country with very little vetting, any 377 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 5: sort of responsibility. And if you're not doing that, you're 378 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 5: like Andrew McCay on CNN who said, well, who knows, 379 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 5: maybe these soldiers weren't properly trained, because you know, these 380 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: guys aren't police officers. They don't up training how to 381 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: respond to crazy people. Well, there's nothing really anybody can 382 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 5: do if somebody comes up with a gun, you know, 383 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: and maybe hits you from behind or shoots you from 384 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: the middle of no or you don't expect someone to 385 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 5: whip out a gun and shoot you in the head. 386 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: It's an interesting phenomena that it's always the shooter who's 387 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: the last one to get the blame in situations like this. 388 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Bill Malusion. There's no one who's 389 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: covered the border or immigration issues better than Bill Mallusion. 390 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: And he says, this guy came in afghan national entered 391 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: the United States and September of twenty twenty one as 392 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: part of the Biden op rac allies welcome in the 393 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: aftermath of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. And then he writes, 394 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm told his permission to be in the US expired 395 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: in September in this year, so technically he's in the 396 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: country illegally, but that fact is very likely to not 397 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: be included I think in the that will get from 398 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: the major networks in this country. 399 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, I know. 400 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: And the latest reporting about twenty minutes ago from NBCUS 401 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 5: says that a suspects relative who served with him Afghanistan 402 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 5: says the suspects has a wife and five children, but 403 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 5: they haven't spoken to him in months and they don't 404 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: know why he did this. 405 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 6: Hm. 406 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 5: Maybe if a guy goes a wall. Yeah, maybe something's 407 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 5: going on here. 408 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, we'll see what happens. 409 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: We just gotta gotta pray for the National Guard members 410 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: who are apparently clinging to life RelA of the circumstances. 411 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 5: You know, there was a lot of confusion at one 412 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: point with the governor. But either way, I mean, as 413 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: the President said, I mean, I think this is why 414 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: we have a commander in chief who doesn't mince words. 415 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 5: Oh he called him an animal. Oh he said there's 416 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 5: going to be hell to pay. Like yes, like of course, 417 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 5: you know, like you want a president, you want someone 418 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 5: to come out and lead with force. He's not jeopardizing 419 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 5: any sort of investigation by talking about this. This guy 420 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 5: is admitted to it. There's security camera footage of this. 421 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: The guy was injured because he was taken down right away. 422 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: I mean, the liberal media will continue to make excuses, 423 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 5: as we've discussed here, but uh, you know, we'll stay 424 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: on this one. But yet again, you have too many 425 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 5: people that failed the Charlie Kirk test and show, and 426 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 5: with their first instinct should have been compassion in this case, 427 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 5: is looking to blame the victim. They're just doing the 428 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: her skirt was too short, excuse. 429 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the good point. 430 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: On another subject, I about a week or so ago, 431 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: I saw I believe it was Rick Wilson, one of 432 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: the founders of the uh the the Lincoln Project, and 433 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: he was he was on whatever station he was on, 434 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: and and he was he was laying out the narrative 435 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: that Trump is mentally deficient, that he's mentally ill, that 436 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: he he's not right in the head, that he that 437 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: that he's a sick puppy. And I was I forget 438 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: who I was talking to, but I said, this is 439 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: this is the the next attack line for the for 440 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats and for the left in this country, and 441 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: AOC was reciting these talking points yesterday. Here's AOC talking 442 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: about this. Let's hear cut number five, Joe. 443 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: To be honest, the president's remarks are I think indicate 444 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: a level of instability. It's not just shocking, it's not 445 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 6: just offensive. It's bizarre, it is it's erratic, it's volatile, 446 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 6: and I think it indicates a mental state that we 447 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 6: should all be questioning right now, whether that's emotional, mental, 448 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 6: what have you. It is not normal to make these accusations. 449 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: It is not normal to. 450 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 6: Invoke these kinds of threats of violence. And it's also 451 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 6: not normal to also dramatically misquote, as Carolyn Leavett was doing. 452 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: What these members of Congress said. 453 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 7: They made a. 454 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 6: Very clear message to US service members, which is that 455 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 6: you do not have to obey in illegal order. And 456 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 6: I think that's an important message to reiterate because this 457 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 6: administration seems to be increasingly trying to go down that path. 458 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: So there you go, there's AOC, de facto leader of 459 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party taking the latest DNC talking points out 460 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: for a walk that that Trump is mentally ill and 461 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: the hand he's just not normal. 462 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: So how much mileage. Will they get out of this narrative? 463 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: Well, it seems like that's what they're going to do here. 464 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 5: I mean, on the side note the service members saying 465 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 5: is so pathetic. It's all it's so insinniary. We all 466 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 5: know what they're doing. It's a linkuick, nudge, nudge, you know. 467 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: We it's amazing when these people are actually asked. So 468 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 5: what is in illegal order that the president has given 469 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: a lot I don't know, men a fake movie. But 470 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 5: you know, notice how it's all coordinated. Right now, Dan, 471 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: you have the AOC saying that the New York Times 472 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: put out a story that was thousands of words long 473 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 5: that the President was going off about on true social 474 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: going after Katie Rogers today about his cognitive state, you know, 475 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: and axios is. Alex Thompson was talking about this is 476 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: real concern now and the great Redski Stephen L. Miller 477 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 5: put out on the X that you know, it's remarkable, 478 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 5: this is so predictable. 479 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 8: You know. 480 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: Now they're looking at themselves in the mirror saying, I'm 481 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: not going to miss the story, you know, because that 482 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 5: was the line that Alex Thompson said about all these 483 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: subst we just missed the story. We just didn't get 484 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 5: it right. We just didn't, you know, cover it with 485 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 5: Joe Biden. But we're going to get it this time. 486 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Just missed it, okay, guy, you were. 487 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 5: But don't worry, guys, We're not just a wheel this time. 488 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 5: Give me a break. I mean, Scott Jennings made a 489 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 5: great point his book is out talking about this, that 490 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: he spends his time with the president. The president is 491 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: fully in control, you know. I mean that's the thing. 492 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 5: You know, when a decision is made by this administration, 493 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: the president has made that decision, not Jake Sullivan or 494 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 5: you know, Jeff Science or Kareem John Pierre or who 495 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: else you know fill in the blank from the last regime. 496 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 5: You know, the president has made that decision. But he 497 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: doesn't just go into them. He asks a lot of questions. 498 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: He presses, and you know, some might say pits people 499 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: against each other, but that's kind of how it works, 500 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: you know, versus the faculty lounge approach of Barack Obama, 501 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: where he'd sit around and not be able to make 502 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: a decision forever because he just enjoyed the idea of 503 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 5: think about stuff. 504 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: Well, Curtis out, we've got about two minutes left here. 505 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: But uh, I and I almost pulled off the sound 506 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: bite of Joy Reid and she's on this podcast with 507 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: these two women. Uh, what is the deal with these 508 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: two women that that are doing you? I don't I 509 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: don't even know what it's called. We had It, I 510 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: think is the name of the podcast. And uh and 511 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: and I on my social media, I see this gal's 512 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: picture and stuff that she's posting all the time. Why 513 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: is she the hottest thing in social media and podcasting 514 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: right now? Because he takes are idiotic devoid of any 515 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: substance whatsoever. It's just it's just stuff she makes up 516 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: off the top of her head. And I guess it's 517 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: okay now. According to Joy Read, to attack other minorities 518 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: like JD Vance's wife and uh and and and make 519 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: fun of her heritage and her skin color, well. 520 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, to say that there's no way that jd as 521 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: there's any chance in twenty twenty eight because Maga doesn't 522 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 5: like brown people, you know. And to say that as 523 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: Joy Reid did in these two crazy which is that 524 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: that you know, it would be a Maga dream if 525 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: shad Vance would divorce Usha Vance Kickers of the Curve 526 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 5: in favor of Erica Kirk. I mean it's disgusting material. 527 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: I mean, these these women Jennifer Welsh and Andie Sullivan 528 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: with a weird niitty pump personify there the embodiment of liberal, 529 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: white rich women who dominate the Democratic Party and are 530 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 5: just devoid as any joy and enthusiasm in their life. 531 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: These people are the quintessential you know, middle school bullies 532 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 5: who are hiding behind a damn breaking level of insecurities. 533 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: You know, they're leveling all these conspiracy theories. They say 534 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: Trump's mental state, right Dan is the greatest media scandal ever. 535 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: It's the greatest media cover up of all time. Excuse me, 536 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: you know, and they say all kinds of things like this. 537 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: I have a piece of news pumpings and I have 538 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: one coming out tomorrow about more than they said over 539 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: an entire hour podcast, and. 540 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 8: Can you believe it? 541 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: One of they have they seen what's going on in 542 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota lately? I mean, come on, you want to tell 543 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: you want to talk about huge scandals. It's unbelievable. But 544 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Curtis help will have to leave it right there for now, 545 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: because the time always flies by whenever you're on my friend. 546 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate the time. Thanks so much for 547 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: answering the call when whenever I ask to have you 548 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: on you you do such great work. And tell everyone 549 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: over at NewsBusters I said, keep up the great work. 550 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: And again, thank you for your time. And I hope 551 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: you and yours have a great Thanksgiving. 552 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely happy Thanksgiving to you as well, Dan and everybody 553 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 5: at w LW. You guys are one of the best. 554 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Go Bengals, Go Bengals. 555 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens tomorrow night. Curtis here the best man. 556 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon. Seven hundred WLW pright 557 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: back on the Big one. Seven hundred WLW ten thirty 558 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: seven phone lines are open for the first time tonight 559 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, nine seven. 560 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: One Big one. 561 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to touch on before 562 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: we get into another topic. I read the post today 563 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: from the Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes that Officer 564 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: Megan Graham passed away thirty one years old, had had 565 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: a battle with cancer. And I can tell you that 566 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: police department is feeling that loss very very deeply. And 567 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: Chief Scott Hughes texted me earlier today and or we 568 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: texted each other and he said she was she was 569 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: far too young but recently married. Just a great professionalism, 570 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: great courage. And so if you want to say an 571 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: extra prayer tonight, saying one for everyone at the Hamilton 572 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: Township Police and for Officer Megan Graham, that would be 573 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: a good thing to do. I also might want to 574 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: say a prayer for the one time Sheriff of Clairemont County. 575 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: Tim Rodenberg. Been reading about his difficulties lately. He was 576 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: in court Monday, been twenty. 577 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: He was. 578 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: Sheriff for twenty years in Claremont County. Before that, an 579 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: assistant Clairemont County prosecutor, I worked with Tim, known him 580 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: for a long time. At one point he was my 581 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: go to guy for legal and law enforcement issues on 582 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: this show. But I also know that he has had 583 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: some chronic health issues for several years and ongoing, and 584 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. I don't know this, but 585 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if that had something to 586 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: do with the incident that was reported on November eighteenth. 587 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: According to the police report, shortly before seven thirty pm, 588 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: Rodenberg was driving a Chrysler Pacific, a mini van on 589 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: US fifteen near Walton Creek Road when he failed to 590 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: maintain a safe distance for another vehicle and rear ended it, 591 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: and then he allegedly fled the scene later located in 592 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: Indian Hill on much more Road, and he was arrested 593 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: transported the Jewish hospital. Has apparently given up his driver's license. 594 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say a little prayer for Tim 595 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: Rodenberg tonight and hope that he gets things squared away. 596 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: So all the best to him. Known to him for 597 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: a long time and like him very much much another story. 598 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: I thought I thought I was going to spend a 599 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: lot of time, not a lot of time, but obviously 600 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: sometime during the course of the show tonight talking about this. 601 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: Of course, we've been talking about mostly for the first 602 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: hour of the show after UC basketball after a terrible 603 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: loss by UC basketball, Tonight spent the first hour of 604 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: the show talking about what happened in DC today with 605 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: a couple members of the National Guard out of West 606 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: Virginia coming under attack by some dude from Afghanistan who 607 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: may have come to the country legally initially under the 608 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: Biden administration, but that legal protection ran out now in 609 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: the country. According to Bill Mlusion the Fox News Now 610 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: in the country illegally, and according to reports from the scene, 611 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: this guy was yelling out lockbar when he shot and 612 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: attacked these two members of the National Guard. So you've 613 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: been spending time covering that breaking news. But there was 614 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: more news during the day today and Fulton County District 615 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: Attorney Fanny Willis the case that she brought against Donald 616 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Trump has officially come to an end. Jude Scott McAfee 617 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: agreed to dismiss the racketeering case on Wednesday, when the 618 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: prosecutor who inherited Willis's troubled effort to urged him to 619 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: take it off life support. The political persecution of President 620 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: Trump by disqualified DA Fanny Willis is finally over. Trump's 621 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: lead defense counsel, Steve Sato said in a statement, this 622 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: case should have never been brought. A fair and impartial 623 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: prosecutor has put an end to this law fair Prosecuting 624 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: Attorney's Council of Georgia executive director Peter Sidocalus, who was 625 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 1: tasked with finding Willis's replacement after she was disqualified from 626 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: prosecuting the case, took over November fourteenth, after failing to 627 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: find another attorney willing to do it. So no one 628 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: wanted this case, and so this news prosecutor comes in, 629 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: takes it, and that's the end of it. And the 630 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: judge agreed to dismiss it. And if you listen to 631 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: this show and the legal analysts that I provide on 632 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: this show, then you know that this case and all 633 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: these lawfare cases were on the flimsiest legal ground you 634 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: could have ever imagined. And we've seen over the course 635 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: of all of these cases, one by one they all 636 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: fell apart, not because of any great and brilliant lawyer 637 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: strategies on the part of the lawyers who are defending Trump, 638 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: but because the cases were bogus to begin with, they 639 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: complete frauds, and yet they were allowed to continue. And 640 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: the Democrats and the left sought to get as much 641 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: political mileage out of these things as they possibly could. 642 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: And now we have for them the law of unintended 643 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: quants consequences. Trump has been president since January twentieth, so 644 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: we are now what eleven months into his presidency, and 645 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: we've got three years and a month ago how we 646 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: look it. And you gotta love that the Department of 647 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: War is now going to investigate Senator Mark Kelly that 648 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: may lead to a court martial, serious allegations of misconduct. Kelly, 649 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: who was a retired Navy captain facing accusations of accusations 650 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: of sedition from President Trump. He was part of that 651 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: video that I played at last week. The Democrats put 652 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: out telling telling people, telling people in the military, telling 653 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: people in the clandestine services. Yeah, you don't have to 654 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: follow any illegal orders from this guy. But yet none 655 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: of them can come up. And they've been asked repeatedly, 656 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: can you give me one illegal order? 657 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: And it's all this. 658 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: And Curtis House was talking about this when I had 659 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: him on the interview, and it reminded me of when 660 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: James Comy was just walking on the beach and he 661 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: found this interesting shell formation right eighty six forty seven. Oh, 662 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: look at that. Isn't that These shells just happened to 663 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 1: be aligned like that. Didn't have any no, no motive 664 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: for it. Couldn't understand why anyone would get upset about that. 665 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: And then you got these Democrats, senators and these lawmakers 666 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: who are putting this video out. 667 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 9: Ah. 668 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: Now, we were just just a little refresher on on 669 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: the law on the Uniform Code of Military Justice, just 670 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: letting these people know, Hey, illegal orders. No, you don't 671 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: have to. Did this guy Trump he's giving you orders? 672 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 2: No, you are you? 673 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: You are right to question these orders. Everyone knows that's 674 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: exactly what they are up to. And now Kelly's going 675 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: to be investigated, which he should. I think they should 676 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: all be investigated. And then Pete Hegseth and got into 677 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: a little back and forth with because heg Seth called 678 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: them the Sedition six. And so this guy Kelly puts 679 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: out a picture of him with all these medals on 680 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: his chest. Pete hegg Seth had a look at that, 681 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: and he says, not only did your Sedition video intentionally 682 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: undercut good order and discipline, but you can't even display 683 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: your uniform correctly. Your medals are out of order and 684 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: rose reversed. When and if you're called recalled active duty, 685 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: I'll start with a uniform inspection. So I give Pete 686 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: Hegseeth the upper hand on that one. Ken from Mason, 687 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: I hope you you and your family are going to 688 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: have a great Thanksgiving, you. 689 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 8: Too, Dan, I hope your family has a great Thanksgiving tomorrow. 690 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. 691 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 8: And and I want to talk locally. First, your guest, 692 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 8: Kevin Aldridge, you had on ruler today. He clearly is 693 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 8: obviously a Democrat. His statements, well. 694 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: We you know what we don't. We don't see a 695 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: lot of the issues the same way. But I like 696 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin Aldrichhan. He presents a different viewpoint. I think 697 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: he expresses himself quite well. I was at a little 698 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: bit of a disadvantage tonight because of the postgame cut 699 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: in into about ten minutes worth of our time, so 700 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really have time to argue with him on 701 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: some of the different points that he was making. But 702 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: I still enjoy his perspective anyway. 703 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 8: But go ahead that the election, as you said, was 704 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 8: less than you know, thirty two percent of the total. 705 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean. 706 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 8: That's so sad. They had a Channel nine had done 707 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 8: a thing dan where they talked about thirty five people. 708 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 8: Not one of them knew who they voted for. Now 709 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 8: one individual knew who they voted for. They were all 710 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 8: being given placards on who to vote for, and they 711 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 8: just followed that. 712 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 2: They couldn't That sounds about right. 713 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, they couldn't say who they voted for. It was 714 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 8: just they were voting Democrat, no matter. 715 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: What, Yeah, vote for these vote for these these eight 716 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: names or these nine names. Yeah, and that's what they did. 717 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I had no idea. You know, Bowman 718 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 8: never had a chance in hell of winning that election. 719 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 8: You know, in the city has been made to look 720 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 8: so bad, so inept, so ineffective. Yet these people they 721 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 8: just keep winning that and a lot of our major 722 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 8: cities in the United States. And these people keep voting 723 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 8: to be treated like crap. They keep voting to let 724 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 8: people just abuse them. You know, it's always amazed me. 725 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 8: They they cry out constantly about what they don't have 726 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 8: and what they have their hands on. They want more, 727 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 8: and they refuse to accept the fact it's Democratic lawmakers 728 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 8: that have put them in this plight they suffer from. Well, 729 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 8: it's not the Republicans. And you know, Aldridge made comments about, 730 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 8: you know, demeaning Trump and he referred to Maggie like 731 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 8: in a negative term. I don't understand how make America 732 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 8: Great Again is anything but a fantastic slogan. 733 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: No, it's it's a great slogan. 734 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: But that was the whole notion of connecting Bowman too 735 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: to the Vice President J. D. E. Vance, because they're 736 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: I guess they're step brothers or half brothers. I don't 737 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: know exactly what the relationship is, but I've got a 738 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: step brother. I call them my brother, and and and 739 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: and that's the way I think a lot of people, 740 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: a lot of families deal with that issue. But yeah, 741 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: making that connection and trying to create this narrative that 742 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: this was going to be the conduit to getting the 743 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: mega agenda in the city of Cincinnati. People hear that, 744 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: and that's that's something easy to latch onto and easy 745 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: to make people afraid of. And so that that strategy. 746 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how hard they hit that. And I'll 747 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I didn't pay attention to all 748 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: the daily comings and goings of that election. But the 749 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: pieces and parts that I did see and that I 750 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: did pay attention to, I knew that was a main 751 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: thrust of their campaign was to create that that whole, 752 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: that whole narrative that hey, if this guy gets in here, 753 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: he's bringing the whole mega team with him, and yeah, 754 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: make America great again. That is not a bad thing, 755 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: you know what. You know what a bad thing is, 756 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: Ken from Mason A bad to to me. A bad 757 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: thing is when Bernie Sanders the day after the election 758 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: in New York City, and you got Zoron Mondanni gets elected, 759 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: and he's a he's a communist, he's a he's a socialist. 760 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: And Bernie Sanders says, we need to take this Mandannie 761 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: model and and and bring this all across America. And 762 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is not saying that because it's something that's 763 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: good for America. He's not saying that because it's wholesome 764 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: or uplifting or anything that is going to benefit the 765 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: American people. The only reason he's saying that is because 766 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: this is what gets democrats in power. And that is 767 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: his that is his that is his ultimate goal. That's 768 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 1: his mountaintop having having democrats in power, and the rest 769 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: of it be damned. It doesn't matter how you get 770 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: him there, just get him in power. 771 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 8: Well, Dan he the Democrats are successfully brainwashing millions and 772 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 8: millions and millions of people that Trump. Everything Trump says 773 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 8: is a lie. Every single word he says is lie, 774 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 8: and every single thing he does is to for his 775 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 8: own benefit, not of America's benefit. And yet if you 776 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 8: will look at the facts and look at the truth, 777 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 8: the man is talking nothing but common sense. And the 778 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 8: man truly loves America, and the man the economy is 779 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 8: going to start exploding in April and May. There will 780 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 8: be so many jobs, so many car factories in this country. 781 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 8: Everything is going to be turned upside down. In America 782 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 8: is going to start thriving again. This economy is going 783 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 8: to start booming. And God knows that Democrats will have 784 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 8: one lie on top of another. They're brainwashing people. There's 785 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 8: a large swath of African American people that believe Trump 786 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 8: is a bad man, that he's evil, he's poison, he said. 787 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 8: Donald Trump has won the highest honor from the NAACP twice. 788 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 8: People don't even realize that in the last forty years 789 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 8: he's won wards that very very few African or white 790 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 8: people ever win. You know, Donald Trump is one of 791 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 8: their greatest friends, if they'd want to be honest and 792 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 8: be truthful. But the Democrats, you know, starting with elano'mar 793 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 8: in Minnesota, Talida Rashiva Michigan, AOC in New York, this 794 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 8: idiot young lady in Seattle, these people are communists. They 795 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 8: want power. People need to wake up. They're listening to 796 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 8: your show, Dan every week. They need to wake up. 797 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 8: These people want to take power away from you. They 798 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 8: want to take everything from you. 799 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: I mean, well, if we had, if we had a 800 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: legitimate news media in this country, then the vast majority 801 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: of people would know that. It is amazing to me 802 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: how many people still get their news from George Stephanopolis 803 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: at CBS and all the rest of them ABC and 804 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: NBC and MSNB and I guess it's called ms now 805 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: and CNN. The vast majority of American people still get 806 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 1: their news from those sources, PBS and so. Know, there's 807 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of shows like mine, well you know the 808 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: host is uh at least uh at least leans to 809 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: the right and conservative talk radio. Even though they you know, 810 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: those shows are on in abundance, the vast majority of 811 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: the American people still get their news from those those sources, 812 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: those few sources, and it's a it's not good. And 813 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: because they they simply refused. And if you listen to 814 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: Curtis Halk earlier tonight, and he was talking about the 815 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: news coverage that came out during the you know, the 816 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: breaking news today with these these National Guard members they 817 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: got gunned down in in d c. Their their baseline 818 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: is is that Trump shouldn't have had him out there 819 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: to begin with. And and they all they all have 820 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: that that's their starting point on the coverage that Trump 821 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 1: was wrong. 822 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: And here's what happened. 823 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 8: Well under Murio Bowser's leadership, the mayor of d C, 824 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 8: who's not running for reelection, she had turned Washington, d C. 825 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 8: Into a hellhole. It was dangerous. Everywhere you walk, you 826 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 8: couldn't walk, you know, without being worried about getting run 827 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 8: over shot. And they're changing that city dramatically and cleaning 828 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 8: up all the homeless crap and the graffiti and everything 829 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 8: else associated with what Democrats do. This is what they're 830 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 8: doing across the United States, and they're destroying the major cities. 831 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 8: They're destroying Chicago, They're destroying l A, They're destroying Baltimore. 832 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 8: They're destroying these cities. You know, in the city of Baltimore, 833 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 8: they don't have one kid that's had eighth grade proficiency. 834 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 2: In Man for English. The schools are they're terrible there. 835 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: They're terrible in Chicago, and uh and you know, and 836 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: and the and you know those are cities where the 837 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: mayor has a lot of control over the over those schools. 838 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: But Ken and Mason, we got to run late for news. 839 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: But uh, as always, Man, I appreciate you picking up 840 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: the phone, and you and your family have a great 841 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving tomorrow. 842 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 8: Happy Thanksgiving to you, Danny and your family. 843 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: There you go, Ken from Mason with that. We got 844 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: to get We got to get to the news at 845 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: seven hundred Wlwright, seven hundred WLW. 846 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: It's eleven o nine. 847 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: This is the Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. 848 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Carroll five one, three seven, the big one. 849 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: If you want to get on board, Mark and Monroe, 850 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: what's going on tonight? 851 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for holding on man, Hey Dan, how are you 852 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: doing it? I'm good. I appreciate the call and happy Thanksgiving. 853 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 10: Well, same to you, Bud. Here's my theory, and this 854 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 10: is in regard to Mark Kelly. I think his comment 855 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 10: about not obeying illegal orders was not only directed to 856 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 10: the military, but I think and hope in hopes that 857 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 10: he was also hoping he would hope that it would 858 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 10: be picked up by so called civilians and hope you 859 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 10: know that the Luce Keenan's once they hear that, they 860 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 10: would think that, well, if it's good for the military, 861 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 10: it must be good enough for us to take the 862 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 10: same initiative. So if he can get the military to, 863 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 10: you know, disobey, I think there's a springboard for a 864 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 10: lot of nutjobs out there to go, well, you know, 865 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 10: if that's the way they feel about the military, why 866 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 10: not take the same initiatiff on their. 867 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 4: End of it. 868 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: Well, and I you know, as I've seen so many 869 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: of these individuals that were in the video being interviewed, 870 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: and they all want to play dumb on this. They 871 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: all want to play you ask him. Scott Jennings on 872 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: CNN was asking the question of one of the panelists 873 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: on there, saying, what were you trying to? You know, 874 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: what were you trying? What what were you trying? What 875 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: was the message you were trying to get across here? 876 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: And the message is is that Trump is doing something 877 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,760 Speaker 1: that he shouldn't be doing. But yet they can't point 878 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: to a single example of something that he has done 879 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 1: that is illegal or against the Uniform Code of Military Justice. 880 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: So they know they know what, they know what they're doing, 881 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: but yet they want to play. They want to play 882 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: like all, we're totally innocent here and no need to 883 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: investigate us. Just trying to you know, create this this 884 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: notion because it's people here. They they want people to 885 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: hear certain things. They want people to hear illegal orders 886 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: that you don't have to follow them that the you 887 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: know that that our democracy is in danger, those are 888 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: those are the things they want them to hear. And 889 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: if that, if that's the message you get to cross, 890 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: then they've accomplished their mission. 891 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 10: Let me ask you this, uh, based times what I 892 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 10: would refer to as the power suggest You know, they 893 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 10: can wease a lot of everything. We all know how 894 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 10: the media and all that sublibin messages go across the 895 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 10: board there. But like I said, if you got other 896 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 10: ears out there that are hearing this, uh, like I said, 897 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 10: power suggesting, and they had instgates or initiates them to 898 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 10: come to the forefront and and all the people that 899 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 10: you know, the brass like Kelly, they can get off 900 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 10: the hook. But they've already put the the idea out 901 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 10: out there. 902 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: So if they yeah, I mean no, you're you're I 903 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: think you're one hundred percent right they are. They are 904 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: likely not to face any serious consequences for doing this. 905 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, and then what what I'm glad about. 906 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: If Pete hagg Sath and Cash Betel and the Attorney 907 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: General can make their life a living hell, then I'm 908 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: good with that. Even if even if they might not 909 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: face any any meaningful consequences of doing such a thing. 910 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 10: Well that that's necessary. Otherwise you're going to have, you know, 911 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 10: you're going to open the flookies anarchy. Unless unless there's 912 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 10: some sort of convictions, not just indictments against these people. 913 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,919 Speaker 1: Well and then and look, and they've got they've still 914 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: got their friends in the media who are going to 915 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: try and create the idea that somehow Pete hegg Seth 916 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: isn't the wrong for pursuing this, that if if any, 917 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 1: if any legal action is brought because of this, well 918 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: then somehow it's going to be the Trump administration that 919 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: is being heavy handed or doing something that shouldn't be done. 920 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 1: And and that's that's the way they're going to play it. Mark, 921 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call. Uh, let's go to Amelia 922 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: and talk to Jim. Then we got David Dayton, Jim 923 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W. 924 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 9: Hey, Dan, I want to don't want to play checkers ready, 925 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 9: but when I heard about those two people got got 926 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 9: killed West Virginia National Guard people got killed, well, I 927 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 9: am the governor. 928 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 1: The governor of West Virginia said a couple of hours 929 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: after it happened, that he that he he said that 930 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: they had been killed. He has taken that back and 931 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: he has and he has said he was getting some 932 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: some conflicting information on that, so he might have been mistaken. 933 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: As of now, we do not know if if those 934 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: individuals had been killed as a result of that attack. 935 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: So the latest information we have on that is that 936 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: is that they are still alive. 937 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 9: The two the two the two soldiers are still alive. Yes, 938 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 9: let's thank god for that because yes. 939 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: No, it was reported earlier that they that they had died, 940 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: but that reporting was an air all right. 941 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 9: Well, I'm just saying that if it were true, like 942 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 9: you know, God is dead and the war's begun. Because 943 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 9: this stuff is getting out of hand, and I'm getting 944 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 9: very angry, and I I my Thanksgiving is a ruin 945 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 9: because of these reports of this stuff in the Capitol. 946 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 1: Well it's a terrible thing, sure, and look, uh we're 947 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: probably all feeling a lot of the same things. I'm 948 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: angry about this. I feel helpless to do anything. I 949 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: look at the reporting that is being done on this, 950 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: that is coming from the national media. And that's why 951 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: I had my buddy Curtis Halkon because he's been following 952 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: this all day. 953 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 2: And okay, and you know, and they. 954 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 1: And they start from their starting point is that Trump 955 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 1: is doing something wrong and shouldn't have had these people 956 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: in harm's way. 957 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 2: And so it's somehow it's his fault that this took place. 958 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 9: So so the people that are taking care of this shootero, 959 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 9: We're going to waste our our our blood to say this, dude, 960 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 9: I don't understand that. 961 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: Well uh yeah, well he's a yeah, he's a perpetrator 962 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: and and and that's how we we deal even though 963 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: they may have committed a hana's crime. Well, we don't 964 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: let people just suffer and die in the hospital. David Dayton, 965 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: what's going on tonight? 966 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 2: Hey? 967 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 4: Dan, it's been a minute, and I want to wish 968 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 4: you and your family happy things. 969 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave. I appreciate that, and the and the 970 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 2: same to you and yours. 971 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 4: Hey, thank you very much. Of First, I'm a hoop chunky. 972 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 4: You know, I'll get to the National Guard units, but 973 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 4: I want to just I'm I'm a eight flyer fan 974 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 4: and season ticket holder, but I'm a hoops chunkie in general. 975 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 4: So I want all you know, ships her eyes Xavier, U. 976 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 2: See and do and then lose Michigan. 977 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 4: Losing to the dregs of the MAC, and I'm a 978 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 4: Miami grad and they could have lost to Miami would 979 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 4: have been a debacle as well. 980 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 8: But. 981 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 4: That that is completely unacceptable. To lose to Eastern Michigan 982 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 4: is a complete joke. And God helped West Miller with 983 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 4: the Big twelve schedule this year. If you lose to 984 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 4: a lower MAC team at home and they just got 985 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 4: their brains beat in by Louisville by thirty one points 986 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 4: two days ago, and you get your you know, blown, 987 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 4: it's ridiculous and it's just a. 988 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: Shame that pack Kelsey. 989 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 4: So I'm also a hoops. 990 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 2: Coach and I've all said, I've always said that. 991 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 4: Over and you you back up the Brinks truck to 992 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 4: bring Pat Kelsey home to coach the Ucy Bearcat because 993 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 4: he is. 994 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 2: One hell of a coach. I like him all. 995 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 4: So onto the National you know, really, you know, piss 996 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 4: off about the National Guard shootings. I was eleven year 997 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 4: National Guard and you well, I thank you. I appreciate that, 998 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 4: but it's no different than if you put on the 999 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 4: uniform and we're giving a weapon to go out there 1000 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 4: and defend because you know, I'll pull back the curtain 1001 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 4: on the National Guard. I mean, I served eleven years, 1002 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 4: but you know, these are white collar and blue collar 1003 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 4: people that have families and we you know, I get 1004 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 4: a weapon with live rounds in it for one hour 1005 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 4: a year going down to Fort Knox to do our 1006 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 4: range qualifying and and you're we're not We're not the 1007 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 4: regular warriors like the Marines or anything like that. When 1008 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 4: you're a National Guard where where your mom and dad 1009 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 4: and you know you but you put the uniform on 1010 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, it's like putting if you 1011 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 4: you know, if you put a copy uniform on or 1012 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 4: a state higher patrol. Now you're the target. 1013 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Of people who hate, you know. 1014 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 4: The military or hate enforcement. And it's just a damn shame. 1015 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 4: You know that, you know, someone some idiot that probably 1016 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 4: as a record and don't belong in this country may 1017 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 4: have well they've definitely altered their lives forever. But hopefully 1018 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 4: they you know, pray for Lee they I pray that 1019 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 4: they make it. But but yeah, it's it's it's not 1020 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 4: Trump's fault. 1021 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 2: It's just. 1022 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 4: Uh Trump derangement syndrome again, probably manifested in the shooting. 1023 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, we will see. I think 1024 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: we'll get some more information on this dude tomorrow. But 1025 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: according to what Bill Malusian said, the guy is from Afghanistan, 1026 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: came in under the Biden administration in September I believe 1027 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: it was twenty one, and that you know that legal 1028 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: status expired in September of this year, and so he 1029 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: technically in the country illegally. So what motivated him to 1030 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: do this, We'll have to wait and see. Initial reports 1031 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: are was that he was not cooperating with the you know, 1032 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: whether it's federal or state or local police investigators. 1033 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 1034 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, we'll find out more about this guy tomorrow, but 1035 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: based on what we see already, it looks like the 1036 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: dude is here illegally and was yelling alu wakbar when 1037 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: when the gunfire was taking place, So that that that 1038 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: is not good and I belie leave the government right 1039 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: now is looking. 1040 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: At this as a terrorist attack. 1041 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 4: Well, I pray they they pull through. And it's just 1042 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 4: a shame when whatever uniform is targeted for just having 1043 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 4: a uniform on, just like that police officer run down 1044 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 4: just because the guy who's angry with cops because of 1045 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 4: this kid yeah, you. 1046 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Know, I was thinking about that, or I was thinking 1047 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: about that earlier today was I sort of have that 1048 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: same feeling right now because I'm angry that this happened. 1049 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: I feel helpless that I couldn't do anything about it. 1050 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: And this guy, Look, the National Guard is not the 1051 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: one that is. And again there's this whole leftist narrative 1052 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: out there that you've got federal agents who are wearing masks, 1053 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: who are going into places of business taking people away. 1054 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: People who are actually American citizens don't have any business 1055 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: being rounded up as the illegal aliens. They haven't committed 1056 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: any crime and all that kind of stuff. So they 1057 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: want to create this whole narrative that these are the 1058 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: people that are paying the price for this policy that 1059 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: the Trump administration has. And so it's someone who who 1060 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: was in uniform simply following orders, doing what they were 1061 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: told to do. That doesn't have anything to do with that. 1062 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: And if they have anything to do with that, it's 1063 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: because they are in a role to help protect the 1064 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: federal agents who are carrying out that policy. And so 1065 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: when we have a sheriff's deputy in the city of 1066 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati who's working a traffic detail at the UC's graduation 1067 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: gets run over by a guy whose son was who pointed, 1068 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, whose son pointed a gun out a Cincinnati 1069 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: police officer, and that police officer had to unfortunately end 1070 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: his life. He goes out and attacks someone who had 1071 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to do with it. And so I'm sort 1072 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 1: of feeling that same sort of emotion of anger and helplessness. 1073 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 1: And and you know, you have that that case of 1074 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: mistaken identity there, because the person who attacked the sheriff's deputy, 1075 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I think was wrong in attacking that sheriff's deputy, but 1076 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: somehow he feels justified. And so, you know, the person 1077 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: who attacked these guardsmen, it really didn't have any business 1078 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: attacking those guardsmen, but somehow, I guess he'd probably feels 1079 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: justified that he was, you know, striking a blow for 1080 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: for illegal immigrants. 1081 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 1082 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 4: Any when he looked at those National guardsmen as cold 1083 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 4: blooded killers like marines and stuff. And I realized that 1084 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 4: when I took off my coat and tie it with 1085 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 4: my white collar job and threw on the uniform, that 1086 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 4: now I was transformed into a target. And and you're, 1087 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 4: you know, literally it's almost window dressing ts A you know, 1088 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 4: it's feel good window dressing so that we look like we're, 1089 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 4: you know, having some force. We're trying to do our 1090 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 4: due diligence. But you know, those poor people that were 1091 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 4: shot were We're regular Joe's that you know work worked 1092 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 4: there nine to five Monday through Friday, and but they 1093 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 4: got called the duty. And that's a risky take. And 1094 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 4: you know, maybe with this happening that you know, Trump 1095 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 4: maybe switches some put some active duty guys in there. 1096 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 4: I'm not blaming him, but maybe have people who wear 1097 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 4: the uniform daily and that are being trained a little 1098 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 4: more often too. If they're going to have weapons with 1099 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 4: live rounds in them too. 1100 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: Well, and we'll see, you know, we'll see what the 1101 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: the We'll see what happens with the policy. But Dave, 1102 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: we got to run. I got to get to a break. 1103 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: And I appreciate the phone call tonight. 1104 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks staying I was talking to you, think. 1105 01:05:53,160 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: David Dayton, I appreciate that. But everyone that I've heard 1106 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: that is in DC, people who worked there, they talk 1107 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: about with the presence of National Guard members on the 1108 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: street has transformed that city into a place that was 1109 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable to walk around a lot of violence going on, 1110 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: a lot of random bad stuff, and with those National 1111 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Guard members in uniform on the streets, a lot of 1112 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: that has come to an end. Eleven twenty five, seven 1113 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: hundred WLW SO last weak, President Trump announced his intent 1114 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 1: determinate temporary protected status for Somali's. He put out a 1115 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 1: social media post, but the status has not been legally 1116 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: ended or officially ended yet. That has to go through 1117 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security, and Christy Noams said the 1118 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Department would follow the prompt her legal process to evaluate 1119 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: temporary protective status for Somalia or Somali ends, but it 1120 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: would not be limited to just Minnesota and so ilhan 1121 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Omar heard about that, and she's not happy about that 1122 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: at all. 1123 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 10: Cut number seven, Somali's are not terrorizing this nation. 1124 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 2: You are helping it fly. Oh, helping it fly. 1125 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 6: I have always seen as a fabric, has seen themselves 1126 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 6: as a fabric. 1127 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: All right, that's enough turn that off. That's enough for her, 1128 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: always seeing themselves as the fabric helping America fly well. 1129 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: City Journal Christopher Rufo and Ryan Thorpe did a deep 1130 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: dive into what's happening in Minnesota, and they write Minnesota's 1131 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: drowning and fraud Billions and taxpayer dollars have been stolen 1132 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: during the administration of Governor Tim Walls alone. Democrat state 1133 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: officials overseeing one of the most generous welfare regimes in 1134 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: the country are asleep at the switch, and the media 1135 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: refuses to connect the dots. In many cases, the fraud 1136 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 1: has been perpetrated by members of Minnesota's sizable Somali community. 1137 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Federal counter terrorism sources confirm that millions of dollars in 1138 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: stolen funds have been sent back to Somalia, where they 1139 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,799 Speaker 1: ultimately land in the hands of terror groups Al Shabab. 1140 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 1: As one confidential source put it, the largest funder of 1141 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer. Their investigation shows what 1142 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: happens when a tribal mindset meets a bleeding heart bureaucracy, 1143 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 1: When imported clam loyalties collide with a political class too 1144 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,919 Speaker 1: timid to offend, and when accusations of racism are cynically 1145 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,879 Speaker 1: deployed to shield criminal behavior, the predictable result is graft, 1146 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: with taxpayers left to foot the bill. If you were 1147 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 1: to design a welfare program to facilitate fraud, it would 1148 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: probably look a lot like Minnesota's Medical Housing Stabilization Service program. 1149 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: The Health and Human Services program, first of its kind 1150 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 1: in the country, was launched with a noble goal to 1151 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,679 Speaker 1: help seniors, addicts and disabled, and the mentally ill secure housing. 1152 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: It was designed with low barriers to entry and minimal 1153 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 1: requirements for reimbursement. Nonetheless, before the program went live in 1154 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, officials pegged its annual estimated price tag at 1155 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: two point six million. Costs quickly spiraled out of control. 1156 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, the program paid out more than 1157 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: twenty one million in claims. In the following years, annual 1158 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: costs shot up to forty two million, then seventy four million, 1159 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 1: then a hun hundred and four million dollars. During the 1160 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,679 Speaker 1: first six months of twenty twenty five, payouts totaled sixty 1161 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: one million. In August, Minnesota's Department of Human Services moved 1162 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: a scrap the HSS program, noting that the payment to 1163 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 1: seventy seven housing stabilization providers had been terminated due to 1164 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: credible allegations of fraud. Joe Thompson, then the acting US 1165 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,839 Speaker 1: Attorney for the District of Minnesota, stated that the vast 1166 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: majority of the program was fraudulent, and it goes on 1167 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 1: and on and on. So that's just one program. And 1168 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,600 Speaker 1: there's another one that fraud the frauds Medicare and Medicaid. 1169 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:55,760 Speaker 1: There's another one that where you have called Feeding Our 1170 01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 1: Future founded in twenty sixteen, and Feeding Our Future, a 1171 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: small Minnesota nonprofit, sponsored daycares and after school programs to 1172 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: enroll in the federal child nutrition program. The organizations that 1173 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Feeding Our Children are Feeding our Future sponsored were primarily 1174 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: owned and operated by members of Minnesota's Somali community. In 1175 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Feeding Our Future received three point four million 1176 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 1: in federal funding dispersed by the state. In the months 1177 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 1: after the COVID nineteen pandemic, which I call the WUHUNT, 1178 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: the nonprofit rapidly increased its number of sponsored sites. Using 1179 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: fake meal counts, doctored attendance records fabricated invoices. The perpetrators 1180 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: of the fraud ring claimed to be serving thousands of 1181 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,799 Speaker 1: meals a day, seven days a week to underprivileged kids. 1182 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Feeding Our Future received nearly two 1183 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: hundred million in funding. And so you've got that going on. 1184 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,679 Speaker 1: Then you've got the other scam where You've got all 1185 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 1: these kids claiming autism, and they take these kids around 1186 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: to different clinics, and these clinics get all this federal 1187 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:28,759 Speaker 1: funding and it's all completely bogus. And ilaan Omar has 1188 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: the nerve to sit up there and say, they say 1189 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 1: that the Somali's are the fabric of the country. Do 1190 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 1: they cheat and steal in the fraud the government in 1191 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,759 Speaker 1: Somalia like they do here in the United States, I wonder? 1192 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: And so she's upset that Trump may take action on this. 1193 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 1: According to her, we're just supposed to sit there and 1194 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: let all this fraud take place. 1195 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just me making this up. And 1196 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,679 Speaker 2: it's gotten to the point where. 1197 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,599 Speaker 1: Even local news in Minneapolis has caught on to all 1198 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 1: of this. This is a montage of different stations in 1199 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:25,799 Speaker 1: Minnesota that thankfully are starting to cover this story. 1200 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 2: Joe Let's hear cutt number six. 1201 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 11: Look at this graph showing the explosion in this program. 1202 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 11: This is the amount of money the state is paid 1203 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 11: in Medicaid claims to autism treatment providers using your tax dollars. 1204 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 11: You can see in twenty seventeen, not that much, just 1205 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 11: more than a million dollars. But you see the gradual 1206 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 11: growth here in twenty twenty one more than eighty million dollars. 1207 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 11: But look at last year, more than two hundred and 1208 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 11: twenty million dollars paid out in claims, with a grand 1209 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 11: total of jaeshi of seven hundred million dollars. This is 1210 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 11: what state investigators are now looking at, these soaring costs 1211 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 11: in questioning how many providers are doing real. 1212 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 12: Workington Federal prosecutors say Minnesota is grappling with one of 1213 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 12: the biggest welfare fraud waves in US history, and now 1214 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 12: counter terrorism officials warned some of that money as likely 1215 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 12: ending up in the pockets of al Shabab and now 1216 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 12: Kitlnked terror group operating out of Somalia, So the biggest 1217 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 12: funder of out right. 1218 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: Enough so you get the idea. It's gotten to the 1219 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 1: point where even local stations are having to cover this now. 1220 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Congressman Tim Burchett, I'm really starting to like this guy. 1221 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:49,520 Speaker 1: Was asked about this, about what's going on with Minnesota 1222 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: and these folks who are stealing all this money, and 1223 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 1: here's what he had to say about it. Let's hear 1224 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 1: cut number nine. 1225 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 13: Please to think that somebody is using that situation to 1226 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 13: rip off the system, to me, is unbelievable. We need 1227 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 13: to get a hold of these people that are doing this. 1228 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,680 Speaker 13: We need to within the law, of course, but we 1229 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 13: need to seize their assets. We need to mark them, no, 1230 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 13: not physically mark them, but know who they are so 1231 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 13: that they will never ever be able to get back 1232 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 13: in our country again, and deport their assets fast as possible. 1233 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 13: Then is to root out who in our government allowed 1234 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 13: this to happen. That's the problem we have with the 1235 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 13: conservative movement. We get a hold of these the person 1236 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 13: at the tip of the spear, and then we don't 1237 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 13: go down to the base. And that's where the problem is, 1238 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 13: the real problem, because they've allowed this to happen. They've 1239 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 13: been paid off, or they've got they're so deep in 1240 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 13: whatever department it is that they are. There's some gun 1241 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 13: that they are able to just move around to another 1242 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 13: another area and that needs to stop. 1243 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: So there's Tim Burchet, and he's right. We find out 1244 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 1: about these things, we have hearings, investigations, and then nothing 1245 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 1: ever happens. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson said the 1246 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,879 Speaker 1: facts of this story are truly discussed. Millions in stolen 1247 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota welfare dollars have been funneled to Al Shabab and 1248 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: ISIS aligned terror group. It happened because Democrats build a 1249 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: system so loose, so corrupt, so politically timid, that fraudster 1250 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: has exploited it to bankroll terrorists abroad. This is a 1251 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 1: national security problem. But Ilha and Omar says that, oh, 1252 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: look we're the fabric of the country. Yeah, we Somali's 1253 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 1: so you know, we look, we make this country fly. 1254 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 1: Now you're fraudsters. I mean, the fraud and the corruption 1255 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 1: is absolutely breadtaking. And so much of this was set 1256 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: up under the Biden administration. John Kennedy from Louisiana was 1257 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: talking about this during the hearing last week, talking about 1258 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 1: the money that was being shoveled out the door under 1259 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: the Biden administration. Let's hear this cutting number eight. 1260 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 7: It's rare that I'm speechless, but I want to be 1261 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 7: sure I understood. The people running the Department of Energy 1262 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 7: for President Biden's administration shoveled ninety three billion dollars, not million, 1263 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 7: ninety three billion dollars out the door in seventy six days. 1264 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 7: And it just happened to be the time between when 1265 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 7: President Trump was elected in President Biden their boss was leaving. 1266 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 2: Is that right? 1267 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 11: It is correct and distasteful confidence undermining. 1268 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 7: So you're telling me that the Department of Energy in 1269 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 7: the seventy six day period before their boss was going 1270 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:36,600 Speaker 7: to leave office gave our loan money to institutes that 1271 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 7: had no business plan, correct, no financials? 1272 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Correct? My god. 1273 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 1: So there you go. There's Kennedy spelling it out. And 1274 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 1: what do you think is going to happen when all 1275 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: this stuff gets investigated? Is anyone going to be held accountable? 1276 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Is anyone going to have to pay the price for this? 1277 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1278 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: You like to think that at some point that the 1279 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 1: times are going to change and that this kind of stuff, 1280 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 1: that this is the kind of stuff that needs to 1281 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: be done away with. It needs to be cut out 1282 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 1: once and for all. We are thirty eight trillion dollars 1283 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 1: in debt. How do you deal with that? And the 1284 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 1: money just keeps on. There's so much of it. I mean, 1285 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: just you can you can all this stuff about Minnesota, 1286 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:40,440 Speaker 1: you can find it on your own. It is beyond breathtaking, 1287 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: just how just how bad it is. So, you know, 1288 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 1: I thinking about Thanksgiving is just a few minutes away. 1289 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: It'll be midnight and in about seven minutes from now, 1290 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: and we'll have Thanksgiving at twenty twenty five. Of course, 1291 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 1: it's going to have this dark cloud over it during 1292 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 1: the course of the day ahead, and we have to 1293 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 1: pray for these members of the National Guard who were 1294 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:26,080 Speaker 1: attacked in DC. Pray for Hamilton Township Police, my buddy 1295 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: Tim Rodenberg. So that's kind of things I'll be thinking 1296 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 1: about tomorrow, and then i'll be back on Friday. And 1297 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch more stuff that I wanted 1298 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: to talk about today, but it didn't really get a 1299 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: chance to get into that much. So Joe Waddell, thank 1300 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: you for being here. Appreciate everything you do. Joe Waddell 1301 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 1: running the big board there in the seven hundred WLW 1302 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,840 Speaker 1: Command Center, and I'm out of here. Have a great Thanksgiving. 1303 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 1: We'll see you on Friday, and let's go Bengals tomorrow night. 1304 01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm not holding my breath on seven hundred WLW.