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Vikings fan Line starts now. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: DearS kfans, Ron Johnson and Eric Nordquist. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Welcome to Vikings fan Line. The Vikings lose 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: nineteen to seventeen. They fall to four and six on 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: the season. They've played five games at us Bank Stadium 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: this season. They won one of them. Wow, they lose 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: to the Bears are two and one in the division. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: You appreciate that. But the a that things transpire to 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: us Bank today, I'm excited to hear. 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Whether it's your phone calls. 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: I got full phone lines, I got a ton of 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: talkbacks locked and loaded here the text machine as well. 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: Six four six eight six. Brad Shohn Bryant Kfan text Line. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 3: Ron Johnson in the mixed momentarily but before we jump 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: into the calls and talkbacks, Harrison Smith was with Ben 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: Lieber in the locker room shortly after this one. 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: Felt cool about it. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: It was, you know, two hundredth regular season game for 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: Harrison Smith wearing purple and gold. Would have liked the 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: w the down trodden longtime Viking safety is with liber. 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: All Right, guys, thanks a lot. I'm down here in 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: the Vikings locker room with Harrison Smith. Obviously, huge milestone 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: game for you, two hundredth career game. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just start there. 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I know the game didn't go the way 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 4: that you guys wanted, but you personally, how's it feel? 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: Is it surreal? 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: Has it sunk in yet that you played two hundred 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: games as the Minnesota Viking. 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: Yes and no, it's not really like something you set 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 5: out to do or like, look at I didn't even 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: know that's what it was, so I was told this week. 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: So pretty cool. 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: There's not a lot of you know, guys have that 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: have done it just with the Vikings, so to. 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Be be a part of that group means a lot 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: to me. 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: It was obviously, you know, memorable, having my my wife 47 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: and kids up there to to blow the horn before 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 5: the game. So but at the end of the day, like, 49 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 5: I'm here to play football and win games, So all 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 5: that stuff is nice, but trying to win well. 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: Turning to the game, you guys, you guys didn't you know, 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: in my opinion, you guys played winning football on the 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: defensive side. You know, you gave up some yards on 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: the ground a little bit in the second half, but 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: you knew that was gonna happen because they like to 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: run the football. You guys end up getting the Caleb 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: a couple of times, two sacks on the one drive. 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: But what did it take coverage wise. 59 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: Because we saw him multiple times where he had to 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 4: sit there and bounce around in the in the back there, 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: you guys caused a bunch of confusion, went into what 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: went into kind of confusing him in the back end. 63 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 5: Really just just covering our our our assignment. You know, 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 5: I thought that the corners did a great job covering 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 5: all day, plastering, you know, because Kayleb's going to buy time. 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 5: He's he's one of the best at it, and he 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: makes some unbelievable plays back there to buy time. So 68 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 5: we just kept at it, and you know, really the 69 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: main thing I think we've seen the last few games. 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: We have to create some turnovers, and how do you 71 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 5: guys go about that? 72 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: I know, it's one of those things like you you 73 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: talk about it, you preach it, you try to do 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: all the things during the course of the week, But 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: when it comes to the course of the game, it's 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: also one of those things you can't force as well. 77 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you know, especially when they start committing to 78 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: run the ball, it's going to reduce some opportunities through 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: the air. But you know, a couple of balls on 80 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: the ground today, Just find a way to get those. 81 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 5: Make something happen in the past game. But we're doing 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 5: a lot of good things. Just got to kind of 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: stay the course and keep grinding. 84 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: What is it about this team in the fourth quarter? 85 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: Even though I mean you go back to the to 86 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: the Bears game at Soldier Field Week one, you guys 87 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: are down similar fashion and started the fourth quarter and 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, there's another gear. 89 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: What do you guys find that extra gear in the 90 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: fourth I don't know exactly. Some teams kind of have it, 91 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 5: some don't. This this team obviously has it. What we 92 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: have to do is find a way to start that 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: earlier obviously, and that's you know, different formulas for different teams, 94 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: But we got to find a way to start faster 95 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 5: and kind of create that fourth quarter feeling early on. 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Is that sort of the message. 97 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 4: I know you're going to have some time to think 98 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 4: about it in this next twenty four hours, but as 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: you guys get ready to go on the road to 100 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: play Green Bay another division opponent, like you as a leader, 101 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: what sort of things you can be talking about and 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: preaching to the rest of the team this. 103 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 5: Week basically, you know, similar to what I just said, 104 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 5: it's it's not when games are you know, you lose 105 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: a game at at the buzzer on the field goal there, 106 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 5: there's always going to be plays you can correct. But 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: at the same time, like there's a lot of good 108 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: there and focus on that and tighten up a little 109 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: here and there, and like I said, start start faster, 110 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: just the feeling of of that fourth quarter. There's obviously 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: something with this group that gets going, so find a 112 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 5: way to harness that sooner. 113 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: You know, again, I know you're not about personal accolades, 114 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: but congratulations on the two hundredth career game. You got 115 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: obviously a lot more attack in here, but congrats and 116 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: well we'll see you in Green Bay. 117 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: Thanks Ben. All right, ask back to you. 118 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: As Ben Lieber with Harrison Smith and in studio now 119 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: as we kick off fan line, Ron Johnson. You heard 120 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Ben Lieber speaking to Harrison there and he says, felt 121 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: like you guys played some winning football on defense. I 122 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: didn't mention the sixteen to thirty two, the buck fifty, 123 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: the score, and the two picks from the quarterback. So 124 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: let's talk about the QB here and we'll start fan 125 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: line with Jeff and Stillwater. Jeff, Welcome to Vikings fan line. Jeff, Bye, Jeff, 126 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: Sorry about that. Let's go to Jermaine and Mancato. Jermaine, 127 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan line. 128 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 6: What's up, Norda, What's up? I appreciate you guys taking 129 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 6: these calls. I first just want to say, I know 130 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 6: after a loss doing this can maybe be brutal, so 131 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 6: I'll try not to pile on the negativity here too much. 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 6: But yeah, appreciate you guys doing this. But here's here's 133 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 6: where I'm at with this team and kind of what 134 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 6: I want to get your take on. I don't think 135 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 6: we're a good football team right now. And it's not 136 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 6: just about McCarthy. I mean, yes, he hasn't played well, 137 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 6: and he's he deserves some of the blame for sure, 138 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 6: But I think there's just something deeper going on. And 139 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 6: it feels to me like this is a you know, 140 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 6: a focus and a care issue. Like good teams make 141 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 6: routine plays in all three phases, right We're not doing that. 142 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 6: And when you've got like veteran guys like Harrison Smith 143 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 6: and Josh Mattelis missing tackles like on that crucial third 144 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 6: down because they're not wrapping up, or you've got guys 145 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 6: like Jefferson and Addison and Hockinson dropping routine passes that 146 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: they should make. That's that's not a talent problem. That's 147 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 6: that's a guy's not being mentally locked in problem. And 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 6: I think when it team keeps making the same mistakes 149 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 6: like that on offense and defense and special teams, that's 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: the textbook definition to me of a bad team. Good 151 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 6: teams don't beat themselves, and right now it feels like 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 6: this team just we aren't focused enough or don't care 153 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 6: enough to stop doing that. So I wanted to see 154 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 6: you know what you guys thought. Do you think it's 155 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 6: a focus issue or a care issue, because that's what 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: it feels like to me. This is a much different 157 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: team than we were last year in the way they're playing. 158 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 6: So that's my question. I'll hang up and listen. 159 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Yeah, I dig it. 160 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, great call and man Cato of course, I 161 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: mean we only get great calls from man Cato my homeland, 162 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: and I appreciate that. 163 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 7: Ron. 164 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: You know, you fix the false starts. Yep. 165 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: I only had the ball for twenty three minutes, So 166 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: if they would have had six or seven false starts today, 167 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that would have been unbelievable. But to the 168 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: point of Jermaine's call, the idea of a lack of 169 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: focus going beyond the qbright JJ McCarthy was putrid today 170 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: except for one drive. 171 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: But you did see the drops. 172 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: You did see, you know, Harrison Smith and and I 173 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: think I remember that play. 174 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: It was third and long. 175 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: I think Colston Lovelin maybe right over the middle, and 176 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean it was just a straight olay. I think, 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: you know, I know, two hundred regular season games, that's 178 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: a sweet moment for Harrison Smith. And I love Harry 179 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: my goodness, He's got to offer more than just a 180 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: little feigning elbow as he falls to the ground in 181 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: front of him. A lot of that, and then you 182 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: have the Duverne kick return at the end. What do 183 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: you think about that? 184 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say it's because it's 185 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 8: a bad team or they don't care that, you know, 186 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 8: like those plays happening, like the Justin Jefferson you know, 187 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 8: off the fingertips, the Jordan Addison off the fingertips, the 188 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy, the high thrown balls, Aaron Jones dropping earlier, 189 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 8: you know, TJ. 190 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: Hockinson, Adamot, the third down drop by Hawkinson. 191 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, like it was in the bread basket, you know, 192 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 8: and so and those are the type of plays that 193 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 8: bad teams can't win games with, right, So if you 194 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 8: want to call it a bad team, you can't win 195 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 8: a game if you're not making a place. Yeah, I 196 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 8: don't know the answer to that one. I'm not gonna 197 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 8: say it's players not being locked in. I think they are. 198 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 8: Like you don't show up for a football game knowing 199 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 8: that you could you know, you you could be hurt 200 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 8: in your career could be over. Like, you don't go 201 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 8: out there likes of days ago. In these situations you know, 202 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 8: I just I just think there's something fundamentally off with 203 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 8: like the mindset and the move. Like the moove just 204 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 8: seemed really off. Like the throws were high, so receivers 205 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 8: are you know, And then you know, you can see 206 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 8: Kevin o'conne kind of mouth and stuff. You can see 207 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 8: Jaj McCarthy like mad at himself. So you know, I 208 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 8: don't know if this is like hey, like cause everybody' say, 209 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 8: oh they need a players only meeting. I don't even 210 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 8: know if that's the answer. You know, it's just you 211 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 8: just gotta figure it out. Whether it's more time together 212 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 8: throwing the ball and filling the ball coming off that 213 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 8: quarterback's hands versus this quarterback. You know, it sounds simple 214 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 8: and easy, but again the lack of time together, the 215 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 8: lack of knowing when the ball's coming, is it time 216 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 8: to throw a fastball versus maybe a little change up 217 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 8: like all that little stuff like sometimes like Aaron Jones' drop, 218 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 8: should he catch it? 219 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jaj McCarthy threw the ball way too hard. 220 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 8: If he times it up and knows I got to 221 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 8: go here because this throw is not here, he throws 222 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 8: it a little sooner and a little bit you know, 223 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 8: more like catchable ball to a running back. 224 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: It just feels like his secondary read or third read. 225 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 8: It's very like last minute, like he's waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, 226 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 8: and it's like the cover should tell you right away 227 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 8: that throw is not there, you know, like he almost 228 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 8: had a third interception, but the Bears defender killed his 229 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 8: own teammate and hit him, hit his helmet on his elbow, 230 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 8: which is why he let go of the ball like 231 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 8: he had the ball in his hands. He got hit 232 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: by his own teammate. 233 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: So even that touchdown to Addison was late, yeah, and 234 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: he and it was just right, just wasn't Yeah, it. 235 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 8: Was good body positioning by Addison and Wright kept kind 236 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 8: of falling forward. So again a fastball there, but a 237 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 8: late throw like it's the deep. But that interception, the 238 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 8: throw should have been earlier to justin Jefferson. 239 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: It's like he gets locked in on this. 240 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 8: So again I'm not going to say, like to the 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 8: caller's point, I'm not going to say it's the players 242 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 8: not paying attention or not being locked in. I think 243 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 8: they are. I just I just don't really have an 244 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,479 Speaker 8: answer for it. Like, honestly, it's just off, like something's. 245 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: Off Warren and Saint Paul Warren, Welcome to Vike fan line. 246 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, the most obvious thing of the whole game, it 247 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 9: was right at the end, how do you kick the 248 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 9: ball to all pro kick returner and just kick it 249 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 9: out of the end zone because there's always a chance 250 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 9: with DuVernay he could he's got big gameplay capabilities. That 251 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 9: was a huge mistake right there, because well when they 252 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 9: had that thirty five instead of where. 253 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 10: They got it. 254 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 9: That's one thing. This is what's happening to the Vikings 255 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 9: right now. It's very similar to when we had those 256 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 9: when we had our bad quarterback play, you know, with 257 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 9: McNab and Ponder and all that. What ends up happening 258 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 9: is when you start, uh, when you're when you got 259 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 9: openings and stuff, and you don't make those plays. It's 260 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 9: a domino effect not only on your offense, it also 261 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 9: goes to the defense. And I nobody can tell me 262 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 9: that Brozner couldn't make those short throwers. I think they 263 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 9: need to make, you know, what they what they need 264 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 9: to do is set set the rookie court back and say, okay, 265 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 9: you're going to have a game. Just to sit and 266 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 9: relax and calmdly, calm down, and I'd put brows that 267 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 9: are in. You wouldn't have anything to lose at this 268 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 9: pointless season. They're both of the same. Well, he's all 269 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 9: actually older. He wouldn't hurt the team at all, and 270 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 9: I think it would given him uplift. And he was 271 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 9: actually telling JJ out there on the side to be 272 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 9: seeing him talking. He was trying to help him out. 273 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 9: That's the move they should make, and I think that 274 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 9: would be the most feasible thing right now. 275 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: Hey, appreciate it, Warren, take care to his original point, 276 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: I kind of wish they would have boomed it out 277 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: of the end zone. Yeah, So the argument is is 278 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: you kill time and you cover correct right now, I'll 279 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: turn it to this. 280 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: They just get it at the thirty five. 281 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: Twenty five ish yards fifty seconds, puts it into gets 282 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: it at gets it to the forty. So now we're 283 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: talking about a fifty eight yard field goal. Santos had 284 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: already missed one thirty five yards. Now we're talking inside 285 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: of fifty, right, they have that fifty seconds. 286 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I think he got to kick it out of the 287 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: end zone. I do too. 288 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 8: I just say, like you put the pressure on Kleb 289 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 8: Wobbs after drive down the field, like you have him 290 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 8: come out there. In the last couple of drives. The 291 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 8: defense had actually been playing really good. Yeah, like the 292 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 8: defense had figured it out, Jalen Redman, Tyron Ingham Dawkins, 293 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 8: like they were getting after the quarterback. Even the sack 294 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 8: by Van Ginkel. It was perfectly played. Like Jalen Redman 295 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 8: got in there. Gink did not lose content. Like the 296 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 8: minute he saw Caleb Williams, he like did not even 297 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 8: keep coming up the field. He went left saying, I 298 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 8: know this guy's going to keep runing to his right. 299 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 8: He played the statistics of here's what Kayler Williams does 300 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 8: when he leaves the pocket, and I think that would 301 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 8: have you know they had him. Now you're forcing him 302 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 8: in to throw a situation because they run the ball. 303 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 8: Now they got to start using those timeouts. You know, 304 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 8: give up a four or five six yard run. That's 305 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 8: that's not gonna hurt you. It's gonna make the clock running. 306 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 8: You have to call time out. So you know they're 307 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 8: going to be in a passive situation, which that's where 308 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 8: Flores thrives. When he knows they have to pass. That's 309 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 8: when his defense plays the best, and that's why I 310 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 8: would have kicked it. 311 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Out the end zone. 312 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: What do you think about the clock management down the 313 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: stretch in terms of because it frank left too much 314 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: time on the clock. McCarthy's best drive was the don't think, 315 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: just go drive when you absolutely had to have it. 316 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's anything to that for the kid, 317 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: but at any rate, it's completion, completion, completion. The one 318 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: out of bounds, I guess was Naylor on the catch 319 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: streaking across. I don't know if he could have potentially 320 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: stayed inbounds. The Bears had two or three timeouts at 321 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: this point too, by the way, so not necessarily sure 322 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: you could have killed too much additional clock off of it. 323 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: But any any thoughts on the on the clock management 324 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: towards the end? Yeah, so earlier we need we need 325 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: the freaking touchdown. 326 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 8: At the start of the second half, I tweeted out 327 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 8: Jay I was going to try to find the tweet, 328 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 8: but I basically tweeted out that JJ McCarthy needs a 329 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 8: simpler offense, Like. 330 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: If somebody wanted to find that post. 331 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 8: Where three Ron Johnson the number three number Ron Johnson 332 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 8: on Twitter? But I tweeted out that JJ McCarthy needs 333 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 8: an up temple offense. It was like in the second half, 334 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 8: and this was before the two minute drive because I 335 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 8: didn't honestly, at that point, I'm like, I don't think 336 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 8: this game is going to come down to the end. 337 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: I really didn't. I was like, this, this is bad. 338 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 8: And they found like the Bears found a way to 339 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 8: still give the Vikings a chance. Like it was and 340 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 8: Courtney Cronin said, like, I talked to Courtney and she 341 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 8: said the same thing. She's like, the Bears are going 342 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 8: to find a way to lose this game, and they 343 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 8: almost did, Like they almost found a way to lose 344 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 8: the game, and the Vikings found a better way. And 345 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 8: it was just like it was looking at JAJ McCarthy 346 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 8: with no thought process. Spread the receivers out, the read 347 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 8: becomes the coverage, meaning the minute you see the matchup, 348 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 8: you like, you know they're going to play off coverage. 349 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 8: Here's the throw that was way simpler in my opinion, 350 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 8: for him versus you know you gotta dig, you gotta 351 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 8: out and up like even the again red zone, right, 352 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 8: they run the Aaron Jones little bubble deal whatever off 353 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 8: the backfield. He's running the wheel route. Jajon McCarthy throws 354 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 8: a fireball at his face. He was and just get 355 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 8: it there, like, just throw it to them, like why 356 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 8: are we running that? Why are we running that? 357 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 11: You know? 358 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 8: I think last time it happened with Justin Jefferson, same 359 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: type of play will right with Justin Jefferson on need 360 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 8: to pick jj McCarthy fires it in there. Justin Jeferson 361 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 8: gives it a head taken off. Should be a corner 362 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 8: throw up in the air. Let Justin Jefferson out jump 363 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 8: the guy. You know, it seems like there's too much. 364 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 8: Let's trick these guys. Let's get our guys wide open 365 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 8: for a quarterback versus I got the best receiver. 366 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: In the world right now in my offense. 367 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 8: If I had, if they had Randy Moss, they would 368 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 8: not be doing these plays, I would hope not. Like 369 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 8: if they had Randy Moss lined up wide to the right, 370 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 8: and if they had Coaston Lovelin, if they had Coaston 371 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 8: Lovelin lined up to the left, They're not doing a 372 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 8: trick play. They're just gonna throw the fade. Like throw 373 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 8: the fade. That's it gets Let's be throw it run 374 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 8: a slant when they are simple. 375 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy looks really good. 376 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 8: When they are complex, he looks like he can't figure 377 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 8: it out at times. 378 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,119 Speaker 3: That's Ron Johnson. I'm Eric Nord Quiz. Vikings lose nineteen seventeen. 379 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: A walk off field goal by Cairo santos Uh finishes 380 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: off the Vikings, who are now four and six, one 381 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: in four at home in twenty twenty five full phone lines. 382 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: We're gonna go rapid fire with the calls around the corner. 383 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: Vikings fan line continues, This is Minnesota Vikings football. 384 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: For Minnesota Sports the leader. 385 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 12: Minnesota Sports Leader is FM one hundred point three, Dan 386 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 12: A Candy rasall the fan. 387 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 13: Hey guys, Dawson from Foston, Minnesota. We're gonna get mad 388 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 13: at JJ for throwing the ball one hundred miles an 389 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 13: hour every single time. 390 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: We had crucial drops play. 391 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 13: After play, Addison for a big hitter, Addison on an 392 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 13: out route to the left side, and then Hockinson on 393 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 13: a big second down when we're trying to go down 394 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 13: and score. 395 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 14: Come on, man, we gotta get it together. 396 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 15: Paul in Southern California, This Viking team needs an enemy. 397 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 15: It's filled with not very smart players and coaching staff. 398 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 15: That cannot rise to the challenge. 399 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: They blew it, they gave it away. 400 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 15: They've got soft defense, they've got a multiple drops of receivers. 401 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 15: McCarthy couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. This is 402 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 15: ridiculous time for changes. 403 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 16: Hey guys, why in the hell would we kick that 404 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 16: ball to anybody? Our kicker has the best leg in 405 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 16: the league. Kick it through the end zone doesn't make 406 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 16: any sense. Huge coaching blunder, thank you. 407 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 17: Yep, just another poorly managed game by koc At. His 408 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 17: offense and QB rushing in that final drive. Didn't coach 409 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 17: up as players to stay in bounds. Naylor never should 410 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 17: have ran that ball out of bounds. Should have been 411 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 17: coached up to slide there, to get down and keep 412 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 17: the clock running. Again, poor coaching from the reigning coach 413 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 17: of the year. 414 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: Talkback machine Free, iHeartRadio app One more and then we'll 415 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: get to the calls. 416 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 18: The way that JJ McCarthy was sailing balls over people's 417 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 18: heads reminded me just like Josh Freeman back in twenty 418 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 18: and thirteen. 419 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: Good times. 420 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 18: Fortunately, tanking is going to be pretty easy. All we 421 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 18: got to do is start JJ McCarthy. The rest of 422 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 18: the way, Thanks guys. 423 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: Thank you. 424 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: Vikings lose today. Nineteen seventeen, the Vikings two and one 425 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: in the division split with the Bears. I suppose in 426 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, if you want to look for an 427 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: optimistic viewpoint to a four and sixteen, that's one in 428 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: four at home. Needed this one as in a muddy West, 429 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: in a muddy yer NFC North. You needed West, I 430 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: mean NFC conference. Excuse me, a muddy North division as well. 431 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: Needed a w today didn't get it to the phone lines, 432 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 3: Let's check in with how about Chuck and Iowa? Chuck, 433 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan line. 434 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: Hi, how are you doing good? Thank you? 435 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 10: Thanks for you there. 436 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: Hello, hey Chuck? 437 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 10: Hello, Yes you hear me? 438 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: Well what do you what do you got? Chuck? 439 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 10: Can you hear me? Now? 440 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: Would I calling? Because? 441 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 19: Uh? 442 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 11: I'm calling because of uh, you know, Koc has been 443 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 11: numerous for the last three or four years. He's let 444 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 11: the team kind of get away from him from what 445 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 11: I see. 446 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 10: Uh, his his calls on on the field, you know, 447 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 10: third and one, when you're running the ball you know 448 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 10: very well, and then throwing passes. He's not working to 449 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 10: you know. We talk about his time management. We talk 450 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 10: about you know, everything he's doing wrong week after week 451 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 10: after week after week is a problem, and it's in 452 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 10: a big issue and this team is not going to 453 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 10: go any place with koc. He should turn the play 454 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 10: calling over to West Phillip so that he can actually 455 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 10: work with the quarterback and actually throw short slants to 456 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 10: the quarterback, I mean to the wide receiver so that 457 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 10: he can actually make some plays and get some yards 458 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 10: after catch. This play calling down the field and no 459 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 10: time is creating major problems for that team. 460 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it, Chuck, Thank you so much. 461 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: Ron. From a play calling perspective today, you could you 462 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: could almost feel where the head coach was like, you 463 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: guys want me to run, I'm going to run. 464 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: I think Aaron. 465 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: Jones had like five carries on that opening drive something 466 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: like that. Then he kind of got away from it 467 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: again as the game goes on, score line can dictate 468 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: some of that. You know, the kid QB was missing 469 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: so many wide open people today. I'll admit that I 470 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: wasn't digging deeply into situational thought processes in terms of 471 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: how the offense was was operating or wasn't. 472 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: There was one though. 473 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 3: Where McCarthy the deep ball to Addison that he underthrows, 474 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 3: and then Addison has to become a defensive back to 475 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: keep it from being another interception. Yeah, the next that 476 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: was a second and two, I believe. And then on 477 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: the third and two, the Vikings had run for a 478 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: first down on third and two earlier in the game. 479 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: May have been like the first one in a McCarthy 480 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: game this year. He throws it on third down and 481 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: we're punting, and that was I mean, that was kind 482 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: of the only moment for me if we're going to 483 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: dig into the weeds. Other than that, I think this 484 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: the kid needed to hit the open receivers today. 485 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 2: Where are you at with it? 486 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 487 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: He did. 488 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 8: And you know, to your point though, looking at the 489 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 8: opening drive you talked about, you got Aaron Jones run, 490 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 8: you got Jajon McCarthy, Aaron Jones again, Jason McCarthy, Adam Theeling, 491 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 8: Aaron Jones again, Jason mc arthy, TJ. 492 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: Hockinson, Aaron Jones again. 493 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 8: Incomplete pass, Aaron Jones again, incomplete pass. 494 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: So you know, it's just like. 495 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 8: What was the common denominator in between all those incomplete passes? 496 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: Productive runs? Productive runs? And you're right. 497 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 7: It's he through the freaking fastball to Aaron Jones on 498 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 7: the fade near side end zone. Yeah, that was the Yeah, 499 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 7: any touch on that thing, and it's six freaking points. 500 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 20: Ron. 501 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh and here's the thing about the Bears. 502 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 8: So talking about runs, right, So the Bears run to 503 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 8: run to run to give Caleb Williams not a lot 504 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 8: on his plate. When you look at seven to ten 505 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 8: yard plays gained runs, right, forty three of those before 506 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 8: this game were the Bears. Forty three runs for seven 507 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 8: to ten yards. That was first in the NFL twenty sorry, 508 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 8: ten to twenty yard plays, thirty seven runs, thirty seven 509 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 8: run plays that were twenty to or ten to twenty 510 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 8: yards bear first, you know where the vikings were normal? 511 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just gonna guess, like towards the bottom, Yeah, 512 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: pretty much not good. 513 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 8: And that's that's what is the tough thing, because like 514 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 8: seven to ten yard passes for the Bears, thirty five 515 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 8: that was thirty first, Like, they're not trying to be 516 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 8: explosive in the past game. They're just like, look, Caleb, 517 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 8: you got legs, use them. Hey, our running backs are 518 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 8: really good. Impossible is he to sack by He's tough. 519 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 8: You got twice could have had him saxon time. I 520 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 8: think it was. Was it Tavi or Thomas or one 521 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 8: of them had him like dead to rights, jay War, 522 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 8: Oh my god, dead to rights and just whifted. 523 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: He hit them with a spin. 524 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 8: Move circle for all those you know video game kids 525 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 8: out there, hit the circle button on them and just 526 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 8: took off and it was like what like and again 527 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 8: jay Ward did nothing wrong. 528 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: Was just really good. 529 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 8: But going back to what we talked about with the 530 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 8: run game, I don't know why he went away from it, 531 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 8: Like in a low scoring game like this where just 532 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 8: a little bit of a auction wins the game, yep, 533 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 8: be patient, like just be patient, just say hey, look, 534 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 8: let's Aaron Jones is going, Jordan Mason's going. He finally 535 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 8: at the end, like I think Sandra Bullet called him 536 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 8: at the end of the game and said, just run 537 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 8: the ball. Stop it all the trick plays in the 538 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 8: red zone. Run the dang ball, because he ran it 539 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 8: with Jordan Mason, and Jordan Mason scored a touchdown and 540 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 8: the crowd was like going wild, like they could not 541 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 8: believe they ran the ball in the red zone because everybody. 542 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: Wasn't that only two plays on that drive. 543 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: By the way, both Jordan Mason has long return Mason 544 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: for nine will sell. 545 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: So that's a Miles price. Give Miles price that touchdown. 546 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: It was a Miles price. There was a Miles Price drive. 547 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 8: And then again most of the time, after a big play, 548 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 8: you know, you think, okay, we got we gotta strike here, explosive. 549 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's throw it to the end zone. 550 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 8: Because that's Kevin O'Connell, right, Yeah, three straight passes and 551 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 8: everybody's like, what are we doing? No, he ran the 552 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 8: ball and he got a touchdown out of it. But 553 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 8: then it go like why not do that? 554 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: Early on? You know, it was working, like you said 555 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: that first drive, it's working. 556 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 8: It's like playing John Madden if you if the run 557 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 8: is working and this kid whoever's on the sticks can't 558 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 8: can't stop the run, why would I stop it? Why 559 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 8: would And if my quarterback is just throwing the ball 560 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 8: all over place, my receivers aren't making the tough catches 561 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 8: for him, and the easy catches either. Yeah, maybe just 562 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 8: run the ball a little bit because then that makes 563 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 8: play the action a little more viable. Like you can't 564 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 8: run play action if you're not going to continue to 565 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 8: run the ball, and that's that was the only strange 566 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 8: thing for me. 567 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: One more call and then we paused. Dan and Austin Dan, 568 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan line. 569 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: At duper Cala. 570 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 21: Fred Delicious absolutely got less. 571 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: I can't sing. 572 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 21: This team cannot play football. JJM was tough today, but 573 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 21: I helped the kid out. How many drop passes did 574 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 21: we have? The defense was okay, but almost to a man, 575 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 21: this was an indictment of the entire organization. We have 576 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 21: to turn it around. There's too much to talk about. 577 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 21: I'll hang up and listen. 578 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 8: Man, he was so close to a bar, like that 579 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 8: was almost a bar because it's super kinds of fragilistic 580 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 8: xbil adocious, So he should have said something almost atrocious, 581 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 8: like its completely atrocious. 582 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, see it runs. He's close. He was so close 583 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: to a bar. No, I appreciate that. And there's not 584 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: much to argue, like make like a tree and get 585 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: out of here. Uh. 586 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: Maybe next week we're at Lambeau, so we'll see what happens. 587 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: But Dan, I'm giving you a week. I'm giving you 588 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: an assignment. 589 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: Come up a new bit for next week, because my goodness, 590 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 3: is this thing getting hard. 591 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 8: To break down. Was Jordan Love going to be out though, 592 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 8: as Malik William Willis went in. I don't know if 593 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 8: he ever came back, but Malik Willis went in for him. Well, 594 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 8: I saw Jacobs was ruled out. 595 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't see the Jordan Love thing. So 596 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: he's out. 597 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, he was out for a little bit. I don't 598 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 8: know if he came back. Me and Rosie saw him 599 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 8: go out. 600 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm out of the loop on that. And we're gonna 601 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: catch up because we're gonna pause. Vikings fan line nineteen 602 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: to seventeen. Vikings fall to the Bears teams four and six. 603 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: They're one and four at home. It's negative Lambeau on 604 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: the horizon. We're going to continue to break this thing 605 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: down Vikings fan line style. This is Minnesota Vikings football. 606 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 12: The audio home for the Vikings, Wild, Timberwolves, and Gophers 607 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 12: in Minnesota's home for sports is iHeartRadio and f M 608 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 12: one hundred point three. 609 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: Like said Minneapolis Saint Paul the. 610 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 22: Fan Christopher Saint Paul here, I think this team is 611 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 22: out of sync with coaching, with quarterback play, with receiver awareness, 612 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 22: and with special teams. If we could be all in 613 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 22: sync at the same time, I think we could be 614 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 22: a really good team, but right now they're just out 615 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 22: of sync. 616 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: They need to sync up. 617 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 22: We need to catch balls when they're thrown well and 618 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 22: throw balls when they're in the position to catch them. 619 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Think, so, everything's bad and if everything was better, the 620 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: team would be better. 621 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 23: Well stated, Yeah, I don't care what anyone says, guys, 622 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 23: season's over. Oh as a Viking fan, I don't know 623 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 23: how I feel about what the next couple of years 624 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 23: are going to look like. To me, it's just going 625 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 23: to look like a slog. And hopefully he's something better 626 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 23: than dare I say Christian. 627 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: Ponder Deep Freeman references Ponder. 628 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 24: KOs coached again he needs to adjust his offense for 629 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 24: his quarterback and why didn't he kick the ball out 630 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 24: of the end zone with less than a minute to 631 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 24: go in the game and let your defense win the game? 632 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: Disappointing, very disappointing. 633 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 25: This might be the first time I've ever said this 634 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 25: as a Vikings fan, but I'm glad that we lost 635 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 25: that game and didn't just snatch it at the end there, 636 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 25: because it would have delayed the inevitable. Living this lie 637 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 25: with JJ McCarthy as our franchise quarterback. He's not NFL ready. 638 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 25: He's injured people with his throws on offense and defense. 639 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 25: He's disappointing fans, teammates. 640 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: I see, we need to bench him. This is it. 641 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: I've had enough. Talkbacks are fun, talkbacks are flying. 642 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: This is Minnesota Vikings fan line. The Vikings lose by 643 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: a couple nineteen to seventeen is the final, final, second 644 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: field goal for Cairo Santos gives them the lead in 645 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: the W and they're seven and three. That's one of 646 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: those like I've heard of, like a lot of out 647 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: of sync And are we undisciplined? Do we lack focus? 648 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 21: Hey? 649 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: Ten weeks into the season, what is our identity? Well, 650 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: our identity is that we're undisciplined. We make mistakes, and 651 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: a team like the Bears who've been really good at 652 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: capitalizing on those mistakes. Man, they've only played teams, you know, 653 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: they're six victories fifteen forty one and one. The collective 654 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: record of the of the six teams they've beaten. Well, 655 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: they're now seven and three because we keep making mistakes 656 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: and the Bears took advantage of them. Ron Johnson's here 657 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: on Nordo to the phone lines Chase in Henning, Chase, 658 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to Vikings fan line. 659 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 10: Hey Ron, he Eric. 660 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 26: Thankful that we have you after it doesn't matter how 661 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 26: deep we get put on Sunday, I'm thankful that we 662 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 26: have you guys. 663 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 14: To put some lighty cane on the wound. 664 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 26: And it's mostly been covered. But I just want to 665 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 26: see JJ start having fun. I look at him in college. 666 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 26: I've watched a lot of film, and I watch him 667 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 26: having fun. And I know that there's a lot of 668 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 26: moving parts and everything else, but it seems like a 669 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 26: lot of the overthrows, a lot of the double clutching 670 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 26: and the mistakes he's making, he's just not I don't 671 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 26: see him having fun at all. And I think until 672 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 26: he starts having fun and he has that connection with 673 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 26: his receivers where he's just out there playing ball, I 674 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 26: don't think we're gonna win very many games at all. 675 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 9: And yeah, I don't know what the solution is. 676 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 26: I'll leave that up to you guys. 677 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 20: But what can we do? 678 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 27: What can the coaches do? 679 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 26: What can the players around him do to help JJ 680 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 26: start just playing football and just having fun and stop 681 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 26: worrying about. 682 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: All the noise, What the media the people are. 683 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 26: Going to say and just start playing ball. Thank you, 684 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 26: all shut up and all listen, thank you. 685 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. 686 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: It's difficult without being in the mind of JJ McCarthy 687 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: to know how much of that plays into it from 688 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: a mental standpoint. 689 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: Clearly, there are some functionals. 690 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: Some some just straight to the fundamental side of things 691 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: that aren't working. So whether it's processing some of the 692 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: decision making again, the lack of touch on the ball 693 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: is creating an issue in some spots. 694 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: Better, I mean, he said at the podium, might just 695 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: be better. He just was on the podium. He said. 696 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 8: He also to improve his performance. He said, I gotta 697 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 8: do better, period, Like he knows he has to do better. Absolutely, 698 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 8: Greg and Mound. Greg, welcome to Vikings fanline. 699 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 28: Hey, hey, you guys doing doing good. Thank you, You're welcome. 700 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 28: I'm a super fan, right and you know, the main 701 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 28: reason I watch the games is a nice food spread, 702 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 28: and you know, barbecue ribs and some meatballs and some 703 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 28: cheese and crackers and all that kind of stuff. 704 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: Anything else. 705 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 29: My question is, well, you know, some bread, some crackers, 706 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 29: some you know, nacho cheese. You know, I got it going. Well, 707 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 29: My question is and again I'm asking a professional football 708 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 29: player because I have no idea is the yips a 709 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 29: real thing for quarterbacks or not? 710 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate the question and the call. Greg. Yeah, 711 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: I mean I can't lie. 712 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 8: I mean i'd say, yeah, I don't think it's the yips, 713 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 8: but yeah, I think the yips are just confidence, right. 714 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 8: So what was the guy from a major league the catcher? Remember, 715 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 8: he couldn't throw the ball back to the pitcher, and 716 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 8: he had to like recite Playboy, you know, the articles 717 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 8: in Playboy or whatever like you know, or the attributes 718 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 8: you know, like long walks. I was wondering when the 719 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 8: movie reference would count here, you know, like likes long walks, 720 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 8: you know, and then he's throwing perfect You know, I'm 721 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 8: not saying Jay McCarthy needs to go memorize Playboy magazine 722 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 8: like attributes, but he's got to come up with something 723 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 8: to calm him down. And there could be a lot 724 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 8: going on in his headset. You know, who knows what 725 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 8: that looks like. Because I wonder what Hardball was saying 726 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 8: to him, or Connor Stallions versus what you know, Kevin 727 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 8: O'Connell's saying to him, you know, is it like, is 728 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 8: it too much information because at Michigan there wasn't a 729 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 8: lot of information to be given. It was basically, look, 730 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 8: we know this coverage, we know the front, we have 731 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 8: the best running backs in the country. We're gonna run 732 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 8: the ball, and then when you throw the ball, Hey, 733 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 8: you got Coleson Lovelin, you got Roman Wilson, Like, just 734 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 8: drive it in there. 735 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 2: And he made a lot of easy throws in college. 736 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 8: I just feel like right now he might be overthinking 737 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 8: it because every time he throws it to the secondary route, 738 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 8: meaning like the trick play guy, he just goes to 739 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 8: the trick play guy, Like he doesn't look at the 740 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 8: entire play. Like some of those throws, if you see 741 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 8: the safety over the top, you don't make the throw. 742 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 8: So that's why I'm wonder where his head is. And 743 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 8: the Gophers shout out to the Gophers for this not 744 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 8: the game, but what they did in training camp with 745 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 8: Drake Lindsay is they put a GoPro Greg Harbot GoPro 746 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 8: on the quarterback's helmet because he wanted to see where's 747 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 8: the quarterback's eyes so he can go back and watch 748 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 8: the play in practice, watch the throw and see where 749 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 8: was he looking on this? So if he threw it late, 750 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 8: or if you threw an interception, or if he threw 751 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 8: it high, Like are you looking at what I tell 752 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 8: you to look at, which is look at the safety, 753 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 8: Come down to the flat route, Look at the flat route, 754 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 8: go up to this. You know the choice routes said 755 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 8: they worked well, but there wasn't a ton of them. 756 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 8: Run you know that used to be Kevin O'Connell's bread 757 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 8: and butter, the choice routes off the slide. We're not 758 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 8: seeing a lot of that. I don't know what's going 759 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 8: on with this offense, but it needs to be more 760 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 8: horizontal and less vertical like Oregon. If you watch the 761 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 8: Oregon game, I don't know if you did awesome horizontal 762 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 8: offense and then when it's time to strike, they got 763 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 8: two gigantic tight ends. They will strike down the scene. 764 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: With you gotta set up, but you got to set 765 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: up the sideline. The sideline first. 766 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 8: Make the six yard throw, make the four yard throw, 767 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 8: like be okay with the short throws. It's okay to 768 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 8: go nineteen for nineteen and not throw the ball further 769 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 8: than ten yards like golf did that a lot last 770 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 8: year and nobody was complaining. 771 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: To the phone lines Nathan and Jan Hassen. Nathan, Welcome 772 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: to Vikings fan line. 773 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 19: Hey guys, thanks for having me a lot. It's been addressed. 774 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 19: More of a play calling thing here, fifty seconds left. 775 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 19: CJ Ham is back. We get we're getting the push 776 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 19: up front today with the center with Jonavan Jackson left guard, 777 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 19: and our guys are big and they move well. I 778 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 19: would have loved to see like a power oh or 779 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 19: some type of you know, like stretch left there, just 780 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 19: just some type of run to chew the clock and 781 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 19: to set up a bit of a better pitch. And 782 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 19: I want the clock to be more of a focus 783 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 19: for KOC at the end of that game, especially with 784 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 19: today's kick rules, right, you get it at the thirty 785 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 19: five they need to go twenty five yards with a 786 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 19: lot of weapons. I would have loved to see that 787 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 19: fifty seconds used. 788 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 11: A little more. 789 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 19: And I know, you know, you never want to knock 790 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 19: on a touchdown, but just we were running the ball 791 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 19: well and you have already said, you know, we went 792 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 19: away from the run. I want to see the run 793 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 19: come back and the clock be a factor there. 794 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Yeah, thank you, I appreciate it, I will 795 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: say in their victories this year. I think the Vikings 796 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: average twenty six twenty seven rushing attempts in their losses, 797 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 3: it's eighteen. I think they had twenty two or twenty 798 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 3: three totes today. There was an early emphasis and they 799 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: got away with it. But yeah, to Nathan's point, earlier, 800 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: we did kind of talk about it. Just now they 801 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: have timeouts. I don't know how much time the Vikings. 802 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: You just can't get too cute in that spot. You 803 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: need six points. I wouldn't have minded a run in 804 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: that spot. But again, you're you're taking timeouts. This is 805 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: also we're looking back in hindsight. We got the kick return. 806 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: Do we take timeouts? Do we then kick it out 807 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 3: of the end zone? And then now they're at the 808 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: thirty five with fifty seconds and no, you can kind 809 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: of play, you know, the ripple effect of maybe a 810 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: different decision in this Choose your Own Adventure novel that 811 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 3: has us dropping off of cliffs left and right. With 812 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: this four and six record, But no, I thought there 813 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: was a better in totality. 814 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: I thought there was a better focus on the run 815 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 2: than there had been. 816 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 8: There's some quarterbacks though, that you play against that you're 817 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 8: thinking as an offensive coordinator. I can't leave too much 818 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 8: time on the clock, right Tom Brady, Drew brees Kechrick 819 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 8: mahomes See. I don't think Kayla Williams is. I mean, now, 820 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 8: he has had some cardiac moments this year, like they've 821 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 8: they've come from behind a lot this year. He won, 822 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 8: But I don't think Caleb Williams has earned that where 823 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 8: offensive coordinators or head coaches are thinking, oh, he's just 824 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 8: left too much time on the clock for Kayler Williams. 825 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: By the way, how no Chicago. 826 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: Though, and it's going to be obnoxious because they are 827 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: the Bears in their arrival, but they did get that 828 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: Colston Lovelin bouncing off of safety against the Browns for 829 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: the long TD. 830 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Yep, he almost got again today. 831 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: And then you had him running for the late TD 832 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: after the Giants punter. I mean they had to put 833 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson in the game. I mean the Giants are 834 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 3: just cooked. But they get the ball at midfield and 835 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: like a minute fifty or something and Caleb runs in 836 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 3: the late TD to take the lead. Now they get 837 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: the walk off field goal today. You know, obnoxious to 838 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: clutch related conversations. Oh yeah, goodness, Well, let's pause and 839 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: let's let's regroup. 840 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 2: Because fan line continues. The team's four and six. 841 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 3: They can't win at home, which is frustrating to say 842 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 3: the least. 843 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: Next up for them is Lambeau. 844 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: But the Vikings at four and six, one and four 845 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: at home, they lose to the Bears today nineteen to seventeen. 846 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 3: I got full phone lines. I got a bunch more 847 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: talkbacks to play as we continue Vikings fan Line. This 848 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: is Kfan and the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network. 849 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 12: Your home for all things Purple M one hundred point 850 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 12: three ks AN the fan. 851 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 30: Than today you guys calling in from Washington, DC. To 852 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 30: be completely honest, my take on this game is JJ 853 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 30: McCarthy just needs to make throws. I think everyone calling 854 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 30: in here's overcomplicating it. If we make those first few 855 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 30: throws on the first drive. 856 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: It's a completely different game. 857 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 31: No one to blame but JJ on this one. 858 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 3: A couple of double digit scoring drives allowed by the defense, 859 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: special teams, gaffes and penalties. 860 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: Et cetera. Well, actually just too today. 861 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if we can put it all on 862 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: number nine, but I get where you're going with that 863 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: awful performance in totality. Sands that final drive by the quarterback. 864 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: Afternoon Gentlemen Jr. And Portland, Oregon. 865 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 32: Hey, I realized it's a loss, and we knew that 866 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 32: we were going to go through a lot of this 867 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 32: with JJ this year. But you know, my beef isn't 868 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 32: with what's going on in the offense. 869 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: Is not going on with the defense. It's our special teams. 870 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: They have consistently underperformed this year. 871 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 32: And while I've seen definite improvements in the offensive line 872 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 32: and tells me the coach is going well, I think 873 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 32: it's time for us to seriously consider. 874 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: Finding a new special teams coach. Thanks, you're rid of 875 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 2: mister Daniels. 876 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 33: The rest of this season is for Cardio, but there's 877 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 33: hope for next year. We'll have a last play schedule, 878 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 33: nine home games, hopefully not a West Coast Thursday night game. 879 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 33: Hopefully JJ is significantly better in year two. We still 880 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 33: have a lot of good players. Hopefully Quakey can nail 881 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 33: a draft. 882 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: And away we go. Hey, guys, Jake from Mapleton. 883 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 34: The biggest problem. 884 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 26: Is Quazy the drafting ability. 885 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 33: We haven't brought anyone in that can replace some of 886 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 33: these older guys, and that's gonna be an issue. 887 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 2: Going forward, sorry, rearing and something ahead right now. 888 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 6: Injuries early in the season hasn't helped much, but the 889 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 6: depth is really. 890 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: Starting to show itself and lack thereof. So thanks a. 891 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: Lot, Thank you all talkbackers, Free iHeartRadio app Devin and 892 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: Indie Devin, Welcome to Vikings fan line. 893 00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 27: Hey, thanks to breaking my call. 894 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 895 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: Thank you. 896 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 27: Yeah, lifelong Minnesota Vikings fans sat and watched Super Bowls eight, nine, 897 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 27: and eleven as a young fellaw and don't claim to 898 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 27: be an expert, but this is my team, and you know, 899 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 27: as far as I see, as far as KOC is concerned, 900 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 27: it's Kirk Cousins coaching my beloved Minnesota Vikings, and hopefully 901 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 27: it doesn't take six years to figure out that the 902 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 27: Vikings are not going to go anywhere the KOC as 903 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 27: a coach. Jay Mackin is who the football people said 904 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 27: he was. He throws those those fireballs all over the place. 905 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 27: He wasn't worth the first round pick, and the Vikings 906 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 27: did an extreme disservice not getting hardball. 907 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: That's the head coach. 908 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 27: That's all I got. 909 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it, Devin. 910 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, Mark and Breezy Point Mark, Welcome to Vikings 911 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 3: fan line. 912 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 29: How you doing. 913 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 35: Thank you for the call. I'm Mark from Breezy Point. 914 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 35: I just want to say that we need to stick 915 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 35: with JJ McCarthy. 916 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 29: Kaos is a great coach and it's going to take 917 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 29: some time. 918 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 35: And I've lived in Colorado for twenty years and John 919 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 35: Elway was coming up the same way that this young 920 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 35: man is. This young man has a lot of winning attitude. 921 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 35: We need to keep him and goal with this. This 922 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 35: is our team. 923 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 29: We need to go with him. He will succeed. 924 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 35: I guarantee you that, That's all I got to say. 925 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate him. 926 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: Mark. 927 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, one guy get rid of Ko should add Arba. 928 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: Next guy's like Chao's terrific. 929 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: I love it. Mike and Orlando. Mike, Welcome to Vikings 930 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: fan Line. 931 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 36: Hey, I'm kind of going in between those two last calls. 932 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 36: I mean I think that I think the. 933 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 27: Season is over. 934 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 29: I think with two games. 935 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 36: Against Green Bay, you've got a game against Detroit, a 936 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 36: game at Seattle, a game at New York, a game 937 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 36: in Dallas, you do play the Commanders at home. I mean, 938 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 36: the one or two losses are absolutely there, and that 939 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 36: gets you, you know, the seven to eight losses. But well, 940 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 36: I don't want to scare any fans, and I was 941 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 36: actually a big proponent of this guy. He wasn't given 942 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 36: a fair shot. I want to give you some statistics 943 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 36: on Tim Tebow through his first eighty two attempt threw 944 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 36: for six hundred and fifty four yards, five touchdowns, three interceptions, 945 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 36: with a quarterback rating of eighty two point one. Prior 946 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 36: to today's performance, one hundred and eight attempts for JJ 947 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 36: McCarthy six hundred and ninety three yards, five touchdowns, six interceptions, 948 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 36: quarterback rating of sixty five point eight with an average 949 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 36: attempt or an average completion yardage of six point four compared. 950 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 10: To Chiebo's eight. 951 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 36: Now, I'm just saying that we do need to give 952 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 36: McCarthy a fair shot. 953 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 27: Tibo was never given a fair shot. 954 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 36: So I'm glad that this season does look like it's 955 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 36: offer because JJ. There's no reason to make any other 956 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 36: move but to stick with JJ at quarterback and let's 957 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 36: see what happens. As far as KOs is concerned, I'm 958 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 36: quite amb erevalent. I'm a little bit frustrated with this season, 959 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 36: and you know, he's not going anywhere in the offseason. 960 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 36: We lost every game from here on out. But I'm 961 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 36: ambivalent right now. I'm a little bit numb after today's performance. 962 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 36: To be honest, I take a t bow comparison. Obviously 963 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 36: different quarterbacks, but just want to remind somebody of where 964 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 36: we are. 965 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 3: No, I appreciate, I appreciate the call and the perspective. Yes, 966 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 3: very different qbs, but all in the same in the 967 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: same vein. And I'm not disagreeing with this and this 968 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: even today, sixteen to thirty two, a buck fifty two 969 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 3: picks and he's late, he's getting hit on the Bayered interception. 970 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 3: I just think it's a putrid throw on the pick 971 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 3: was Nashaun Wright? 972 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Nashaun Wright. 973 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 3: Is only playing because fifty members of the secondary it 974 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 3: feels like in Chicago are injured. 975 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: And he's got a pick. 976 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: He's got two interceptions, and one of them he took 977 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 3: back to the house on JJ McCarthy. It's insane, but 978 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 3: I appreciate the calls. Here's what we're going to do 979 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 3: is we are working your way towards wild hockey. It's 980 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: kind of a two topics Sunday in fact, so five 981 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 3: o'clock we're going to jump in the Minnesota Wild who 982 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 3: got a shutout with mister Valstead. They are hosting the 983 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 3: Golden Knights. That's at five PM. So we still have 984 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: several segments of fan line to go before we get 985 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 3: you to hockey, but we are going to say goodbye 986 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 3: to the greater Vikings Audio Network. Next time you hear 987 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 3: from us is eleven am on Sunday, another nooner, another 988 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 3: division game, but this time it's on the road. The 989 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 3: four and six Vikings are traveling to lambeau Field. That 990 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 3: is right from battering the Bears. We didn't get it 991 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,959 Speaker 3: done today, so hopefully winning the border battle against green Bay. 992 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 3: We're going to cover this with sad Montaging at nine, 993 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 3: Power Trip Live at five point thirty, and work our 994 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 3: way to the boom a week from now against the 995 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers Flagship one hundred point three FM, the 996 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 3: Fan Free iHeartRadio app. You can continue to hear fan 997 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: line with Ron and I, but this has been Vikings 998 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 3: fan Line on Kfan and the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network 999 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: have an awesome Sunday. 1000 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: Fan Vikings Fanline now continues on FM one hundred point 1001 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: three Kfan and the Fan radio Network. 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This 1010 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: is Vikings fan Line with Ron Johnson and kfan's Eric 1011 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: norton Quist. 1012 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 20: What Up? 1013 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Vikings fan Line. 1014 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 3: A half hour of Vikings conversation before puck drop. Minnesota Wild 1015 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 3: hosting the Vegas Golden Nights and Vikings lose today, hoping 1016 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 3: the hockey team gets two points and maybe that we 1017 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 3: can end the day on a positive note because the 1018 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 3: Vikings are now four and six. The Vikings are now 1019 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 3: one and four at us Bank Stadium this season, so 1020 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: they're not defending home turf. 1021 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 2: They just lost the division game. That hurts you make. 1022 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 3: The drive to go ahead late after I mean dismal, irritating, 1023 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 3: You can insert your own adjectives. I think in terms 1024 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 3: of the performance of the offense for the three and 1025 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: a half quarters leading up to that go ahead drive, 1026 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 3: But nineteen seventeen is the final after a long kick 1027 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 3: return and then a field goal by Cairo Santos. 1028 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: Ron Johnson's here on Nordo. 1029 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 3: Free iHeartRadio app talkback feature Let's hammer out a few 1030 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 3: here talkbacks via the iHeartRadio app Let's go. 1031 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 34: All right, Vikings fans, All right, it's Jeff and Saint Paul. 1032 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff Bears fan here. Oh but I live in 1033 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: Saint Paul. 1034 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 34: Now I like that, so I listened to a lot 1035 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 34: of k fan and pull for the Vikings when they're 1036 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 34: not playing the Bears. First of all, Okay, shouldn't have 1037 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 34: kicked us a ball? Yeah, fifty seconds, way too much 1038 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 34: time left. Bears have been finding a way to not 1039 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 34: Bears things up this year. I know you, Vikings fan. 1040 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 3: Up two thirty seconds, Jeff appreciate. By the way, I 1041 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 3: just have to be honest. For instance, if I lived 1042 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 3: in Chicago, Jeff, you are much more mature and even 1043 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 3: handed than I am. Because if I lived in the 1044 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 3: Chicago Land area and I had to listen to the 1045 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 3: score or listen to WBBM or whatever, I wouldn't root 1046 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 3: for the Bears when they didn't play the Vikings. I 1047 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 3: would root for the Bears to lose every single game. 1048 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 3: That is the child in me, and I'm glad you've 1049 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: risen beyond that to the talkback machine period. 1050 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 37: JJ first year, really his first year, and he's going 1051 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 37: to grow into the position. I have all the confidence 1052 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 37: that the team will jel and within a few years 1053 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 37: we'll have success. My only worry is if our talent 1054 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 37: will stay around long enough to find out. 1055 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: Thanks enjoying the show, Thank you talkbacks. 1056 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 38: Hey Ron Nordo your ps guy here. I'm gonna go 1057 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 38: full dad mode on you. I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. 1058 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 38: I'm gonna hang up and listen. 1059 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 2: Thanks you bs guy. Well put. 1060 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 14: After watching today's game and seeing where this team is currently, 1061 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 14: I think the great Scott staff sums it up the 1062 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 14: best home. 1063 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 39: Now I'm six feet from the end and I'm thinking, Hell, 1064 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 39: maybe six speed ain't so fall down. 1065 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 3: I love it and I think you're right. Thank you 1066 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: for the talkbacks. Keep them coming. Hey, Ron, can I 1067 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 3: ask you this team loses today, They're six and four, 1068 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: that's all negative. How how real do you believe? Because 1069 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 3: last week Jefferson Addison seven catches twenty three targets, and 1070 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 3: we're trying to read body language and to the to 1071 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 3: the point, by the way, where Jefferson is even addressing 1072 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 3: like attitude, level of frustration and such like. Those types 1073 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 3: of questions were dominating his press conferences throughout the week, 1074 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 3: and fans kind of fans are asking, did did Jefferson 1075 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 3: like mail it in? You remember because he the two 1076 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 3: picks and he didn't chase Malachi Starks across the field, 1077 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 3: et cetera, and then he falls down on the one 1078 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 3: that Humphrey grabbed later in the game. And talking about 1079 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 3: the Ravens, of course, yep, step was see the kid 1080 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 3: QBS throwing so many multi He's got so many multi 1081 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 3: interception games. 1082 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: I have to specify the game in which the kid. 1083 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 3: Throws two picks so that you understand exactly which one 1084 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I'm talking about the Ravens game. My 1085 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 3: point is, then fast forward to today. There were some 1086 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 3: drops and some other things, kids missing wide open receivers 1087 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 3: and such. How how difficult is it as a receiver 1088 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 3: to avoid just I. 1089 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 2: Mean, you're in it. 1090 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 3: You want to make that money, you want to make 1091 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 3: the plays you want to score the points, you want 1092 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 3: to win the game. No one's questioning that, or at 1093 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 3: least I'm not, but man, i'd be irritated. 1094 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, so you have to one, you have to draw 1095 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 8: the outside noise because you know the people around them 1096 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 8: are like, yo, you got to go, or Yo, this 1097 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 8: is not good, bro. 1098 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 2: Like what you know, Like. 1099 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 3: Could you potentially, like have a buddy who you're you're 1100 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 3: just hanging out with during the week you're playing video 1101 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 3: games or something like your buddies are going to even 1102 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 3: be hitting you with are. 1103 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 8: You kidding with even if he likes if he's playing 1104 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 8: like if you two k online and people know they're 1105 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 8: playing with or against Justin Jefferson because we've seen now 1106 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 8: NBA players playing with NFL players and so on, and 1107 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 8: so even those guys are in a headset making comments. 1108 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 8: You know, I think Justin Jefferson's team and him, they're 1109 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 8: very smart to not allow that stuff to hit the internet. 1110 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 8: You know, could you imagine Anthony Edwards if he had 1111 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 8: to catch passes like this or deal with this like 1112 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 8: he wouldn't you could not keep his mouth shut like 1113 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 8: he would be talking non sty anything. Edwards doesn't care, 1114 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 8: you know, what I mean, Like he'll call people out, 1115 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 8: He'll he'll show frustration, he'll like he'll tell you exactly 1116 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 8: like Justin Jefferson is kind of contained. But like in 1117 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 8: the heat of the moment during the game and JJ 1118 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 8: McCarthy said it, everybody's pissed off its stuff. You know, 1119 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 8: even the kick return Kevin O'Connell got caught on camera 1120 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 8: with the F bomb, you know, like, yeah, like it's 1121 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 8: just it's it's just emotional. It's it's tough. But you 1122 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 8: don't want to end up like AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts. 1123 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 8: But but here's our I go with this, Norda. We 1124 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 8: can put all the blame we want on some of 1125 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 8: this stuff, but the simple stuff that makes all the 1126 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 8: sense in the world, that doesn't make sense. And here's 1127 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 8: why I go with this. On third down and one 1128 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 8: to two yards to go, third down, one to two 1129 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 8: yards to go. Who do you think is the worst 1130 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 8: team in the NFL for conversion rate? 1131 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, of course the Vikings are, because they throw it 1132 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 2: all the time. 1133 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 8: Ten first downs, ten ten And the crazy part is 1134 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 8: it's not like they haven't been there. 1135 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: What's that convert? So they're at thirty eight? Yeah, they're 1136 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: at thirty eight percent, you know. 1137 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 8: But again it's it's how are you like twenty six 1138 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 8: times down there and you're telling me you're only getting 1139 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 8: ten first downs on third and one to two. Yeah, 1140 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 8: you know, when you go look at another team, like 1141 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 8: let's just say the LA Chargers because we're tricky though, 1142 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 8: sixty five percent of the time they convert. 1143 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 2: The LA Chargers interesting because they run the ball, you know, 1144 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: And that's not the top. 1145 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 8: The top, of course is you know, you got Miami 1146 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 8: and Miami sucks. 1147 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: Phillies should be up there, aren't they Phillies. 1148 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, sixty eight percent for Philly the Dolphins on yet. 1149 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 8: But here's the Dolphins only been in that situation fourteen times, 1150 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 8: So it's kind of easy to have a high number 1151 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 8: when you don't get there that much. But like the 1152 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 8: Kamyne should be, like, you gotta have twenty or more 1153 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 8: times in this situation to even comfort You're not big 1154 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 8: enough to be on this ride Miami. 1155 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 2: But that's that's what I just. 1156 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 8: Wonder, is like when you have a powerback like Mason, 1157 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 8: you have a fullback like CJ. Ham, you have a 1158 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,240 Speaker 8: tight end like Josh Oliver, you have an offensive Lineman, 1159 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 8: like Christian Derris saw you have another one in Jackson. 1160 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 2: You have fries. Why are you not just running the ball? 1161 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1162 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 8: Well, like Kayleb Williams did those single quarter he didn't 1163 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 8: even do the push push. He just did the quarterback 1164 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 8: sneak old school with the way it was created back 1165 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 8: when our grandfather's played football. Like, that's what the quarterback 1166 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 8: sneak is supposed to look like, not a frigging dude 1167 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 8: touching your button pushing you forward. That's that's created by 1168 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 8: Philly because they're like, oh, we got an advantage, let's 1169 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 8: let's push him forward, which is illegal, but whatever. 1170 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: I think it actually started when Sirianni was in Indy, 1171 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 3: h I can. 1172 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 8: O c Yeah, well, Anthony when he saw the video 1173 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 8: from Anthony Barr where he came up with that idea. 1174 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 2: Nobody, I mean, Zim probably never would listen to him anyway, 1175 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 2: but did you see that? 1176 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 8: He was like, what if he's just put a tight 1177 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 8: end right behind a quarterback? Like there's a video of 1178 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 8: him miked up on the sideline saying that there is. Yeah, 1179 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 8: oh yeah, I tweeted it out. Hey, Mike's a smart guy. 1180 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he. 1181 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 8: Said, hey, what if you put a tight end behind 1182 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,720 Speaker 8: the quarterback is just pushing forward. And I think Harrison 1183 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 8: Smith or er kids are sitting next to him and 1184 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 8: they're like, they kind of do the like maybe, but 1185 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 8: they're also like, dude, shut up, stop talking to me, 1186 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 8: you know, but look here we are touch push. Anthony 1187 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 8: Barr had created the toush push before it even happened, 1188 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 8: and Mike Zimmer didn't listen to him. 1189 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 2: That's Ron Johnson. I'm Nordo. 1190 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 3: Max Fuller is producing a couple more segments to go here. 1191 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 3: As we get we transitioned from a four and six 1192 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 3: football team to a hockey team trying to make it 1193 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 3: two in a row two days and ago. We dig 1194 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 3: that with the Wild hosting the Vegas Golden Knights. Phone 1195 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 3: calls and talkbacks continuing on plus your local Chevy Dealers 1196 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 3: drive of the game as the Vikings lose nineteen to 1197 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 3: seventeen to the Chicago Bears. 1198 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: Today it's Vikings fan line on the fan. 1199 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 20: Ar Seriously, hey guys, it's Marshall and minnetaka. Not signing 1200 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 20: Aaron Rodgers was organizational about practice. JJ McCarthy may turn 1201 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 20: out to be the guy, but he didn't even practice 1202 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 20: all year last year. He's twenty two years old. He 1203 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 20: could have been practicing all year this year. Aaron Rodgers 1204 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 20: was holding out to be on this team, a top 1205 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 20: five quarterback of all time. No, he's not what he 1206 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 20: used to be. But you can't tell me we wouldn't 1207 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 20: have had three or four more wins with Rogers. 1208 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 3: Behind that old line to start the season. Marshall, who 1209 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 3: could have been trouble. But I get the sentiment here podcasts. 1210 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 40: This is Eric from Highland Park, just going to be 1211 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 40: a hot take here, real quick, first. 1212 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 35: Time listener, longtime caller. 1213 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 15: Vikings going to sweep the rest of the season, playoff, 1214 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,479 Speaker 15: super Bowl, Let's go home boys. 1215 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 2: I like it. 1216 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 40: Okay, Hey guys, I've noticed that on the odd years 1217 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 40: KOC and the Vikings have poor records and something happens, 1218 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 40: either there's injuries or something and there's just a poor record. 1219 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 31: So take a look at it. Maybe I'm right or wrong, 1220 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 31: who knows. The other thing is JJ is also a 1221 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 31: new quarterback. And if you look at Bryce Young today, 1222 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 31: like we've been laughing at him and here he had 1223 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 31: three touchdowns and three hundred yards. 1224 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 2: So we just have to be patient as well. So 1225 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 2: let's be patient. Yeah. 1226 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 3: Impressive work by the Carolina Panthers, establishing one of the 1227 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 3: better running attacks in the NFL while assisting mister Young, 1228 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 1229 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,479 Speaker 41: Talkback machine, Hey guys, this is TJ from Bargo, North Dakota. Hey, 1230 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 41: I'd like to talk about the special teams coach Ope. 1231 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 41: This team notoriously has holding calls on kick returns and 1232 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 41: then happened again today on a long return by Price, 1233 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 41: plus the terrible kickoff that's set up the game winning 1234 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 41: field goal. Maybe it's just me, but I think this 1235 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 41: is part of the problem. 1236 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 3: Also, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Yes, But I mean 1237 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 3: they're just that cannot happen, TJ. That can happen special 1238 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 3: teams gap, specifically the penalties that have taken some yards 1239 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 3: off the table from Miles Price, who sand you know, 1240 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 3: save for those two fumbles that he had, has been 1241 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean, just a revelation. 1242 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 2: In the return game for this team. One more talkback 1243 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 2: and then we'll pause. Hey guys, Mike from Sales Saint 1244 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 2: Paul here checking in. Thanks for having me. 1245 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 26: Uh yeah, I hate to rip on the kid quarterback. 1246 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 21: But I haven't seen a game like that since PA's 1247 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 21: guy Donovan McNabb throwing grounders. 1248 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 10: It was bad, it was ugly. 1249 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 2: You hide the women and children, get them out of there. 1250 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 3: Thank you for all the talkbacks today. We are going 1251 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 3: to pause one more time. I'll give you the local 1252 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 3: Chevy Dealers drive of the game, and then I guess 1253 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 3: we're going to try and spin this thing in terms 1254 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 3: of turning the page and looking ahead to Lambeau and 1255 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 3: the Packers. There's another division matchup, it's the Border Battle 1256 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 3: at Lambeau a week from now. But the team's four 1257 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 3: and six. Are you starting to change your perspective to 1258 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 3: just see how the QB does the rest of the 1259 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 3: year and start thinking about the draft, Like I wonder 1260 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 3: where heads are at in this moment. We'll chat a 1261 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 3: bit about that as we put a wrap on Vikings 1262 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 3: fan Line around the corner right here on the fan yea. 1263 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 3: The final segment Vikings fan Line features the local Chevy 1264 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 3: Dealers drive of the game. Thank you as always to 1265 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 3: our local Chevy Dealers. And this one is going to 1266 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 3: be well, I mean it's pretty obvious, right ten plays 1267 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: eighty five yards. Team absolutely had to have it down 1268 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: ten to six in the fourth quarter, and it culminated 1269 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 3: with this. 1270 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 42: Macarthy shotgun first intent from the Bear's fifteen. Addison in 1271 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 42: motion to the left, takes the snap. Now a four 1272 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 42: man rush McCarthy to the end zone. 1273 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jo, listen, just in the nick of time. How 1274 01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 2: we're tied. 1275 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 42: Pets six Jane, JJ McCarthy, well done. 1276 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 3: Mat made the score after reikerd hit the extra points 1277 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: seventeen sixteen. That is your local Chevy Dealers drive of 1278 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 3: the game. Thank you to the local Chevy Dealers. Sadly 1279 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 3: they left too much clock for Caleb as it was 1280 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 3: Cairo Santos with a walk off forty eight yard field 1281 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 3: goal on fourth down and the Vikings lose nineteen seventeen. 1282 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 2: They're now four and six. Where's your head at? 1283 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 3: Just a couple of minutes left here and then Minnesota 1284 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 3: Wild hosting the Vegas Golden Knights. 1285 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: Let's get two points tonight. That'd be sweet. 1286 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 3: Volstead I think two shutouts in a row in net. 1287 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 3: I assume if he went last night it'd be gus 1288 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 3: bust tonight. We shall see. But back to the Vikings 1289 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Ron just kind of final thoughts. This is a four 1290 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 3: and sixteen where we got to be patient with the 1291 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 3: QB who save for that final drive was dreadful today, 1292 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 3: there's no other getting just JJ mccarth. Theat was dreadful 1293 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,919 Speaker 3: except for one drive. How do you change or maybe 1294 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 3: you don't change your expectations. It's a border battle week, 1295 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 3: Let's go beat the Packers. These ones always matter. You're 1296 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 3: gonna find, you know, the get up level and the 1297 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 3: compete high in these types of games always, but just 1298 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 3: from you as as on the outset you're not playing 1299 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 3: this weekend. How do you change or not change your 1300 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 3: expectations for a team that needed that one today, didn't 1301 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 3: get it, needed one last week against the Ravens, didn't 1302 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 3: get it. Now they're staring at four and six, and 1303 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 3: the idea of this muddy NFC finding your way into 1304 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 3: a playoff spot just only continues to get smaller and 1305 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 3: smaller in that mirror. 1306 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know if you change your expectations at 1307 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 8: this point, Like ten games in, JAJ McCarthy is probably 1308 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 8: who they're gonna go with, right the Max Brosmer conversation, 1309 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 8: I'm guessing you're gonna hear more of it depending on 1310 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 8: how this game goes. 1311 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of ignoring that. 1312 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 8: And Twitter is gonna blow up about it. You know 1313 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 8: people were booing during the game by the end of 1314 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 8: the day. Jase McCarthy needs a simpler offense. I just 1315 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 8: think like the up temples off at the end of 1316 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 8: the game was perfect for him, Like he did not 1317 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 8: have to think the defense backed up pretty much because 1318 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 8: when you go up tempo, you can't really blitz. 1319 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 2: So I think that's the expectation for this week. 1320 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 8: You know, you just have to make it simple and 1321 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 8: go out there against a Packers team who's a little 1322 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 8: bit wounded, but you know they got to win as well, 1323 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 8: so or sorry, they got to win and Vikings didn't. 1324 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 8: So now you just got to kind of play for 1325 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 8: pride at this point and hope you can back your 1326 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 8: way into a playoffs. 1327 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 3: Thanks as always, man, good to see you, know you too. 1328 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 3: I wish we had better news for you. Vikings lose 1329 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 3: nineteen to seventeen. They are four and six. Next up 1330 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 3: the Packers and noon or at Lambeau ten am pre 1331 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 3: game right here on the Flagship eleven am pre game 1332 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 3: on the Greater Vikings Audio Network, and. 1333 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 2: Then the boom at noon in Green Bay. 1334 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 3: Vikings trying to beat those six three and one Bears 1335 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 3: for Ron Johnson thanks to Max Fuller as well. 1336 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm Eric Nordquist. 1337 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 3: This has been Vikings Fan Line on Kfan Fan Radio Network, 1338 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 3: Vikings Audio Network, all. 1339 01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 2: Of that stay tuned. 1340 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 3: Right around the corner, the Minnesota Wilde are hosting the 1341 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 3: Vegas Golden Knights in your home for all sports the fan. 1342 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 2: Have a great night.