WEBVTT - Donovan O'Neil - AFP

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going anywhere, neither is Americans for Prosperity Action

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio. He's Donovan O'Neill, and he's back, State Director

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<v Speaker 1>of the aforementioned. Welcome back, Donovan O'Neill. Pick yourself up,

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<v Speaker 1>brush yourself off, and start all over again, right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been one week, and the country hasn't burned down yet, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Operative word, yet. Give it time, Donovan. Donovan's moving. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, all right. I'm sorry, a little too cheery

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<v Speaker 2>this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right. It's Veterans Day, and salute to the

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<v Speaker 1>American veteran. I've been trying to bring that up all morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do appreciate the veterans. They're still fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>us and our freedoms and liberties, and Americans for Prosperity

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<v Speaker 1>is still fighting. Apparently, we're going to get America building again.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the B-A-A-J-A, which has the bipartisan word in

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<v Speaker 1>front of it? This is something both Republicans and Democrats want, Donovan?

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<v Speaker 3>It is. So Baja, as it's called, because Congress just

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<v Speaker 3>can't help themselves with clever names.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the Bipartisan American Affordability and Jobs Act. And

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<v Speaker 3>it is a piece of legislation that actually crossed a

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<v Speaker 3>major milestone just a day or two ago with, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>about 73 votes in the Senate. It It's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>been off the radar probably for most of your listeners

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<v Speaker 3>and most folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it.

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<v Speaker 3>Moved out of committee, I think, September 30th. So just

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<v Speaker 3>before we were all in the fever pitch of the election,

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<v Speaker 3>Congress actually or the Senate actually did some stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's finally getting brought up.

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<v Speaker 3>But it brings together a bunch of different ideas, stuff

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about, like from the Speed Act and other legislation.

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<v Speaker 2>To reform things.

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<v Speaker 3>Permitting and many of the federal rules and regulations that

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<v Speaker 3>are keeping America from getting energy produced.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy produced.

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<v Speaker 1>And my understanding is, and I think it's funny that

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<v Speaker 1>they actually put the word bipartisan in the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the bill, Donovan.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But, you know, going back to my point earlier, our

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<v Speaker 1>energy demands continue to increase, right? Artificial intelligence is only

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<v Speaker 1>one reason our energy demands continue to increase. Infrastructure, transmission lines,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that needs to be built. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>stand in the way of it, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be at our own energy needs. So the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>behind this because they want this to speed up permitting

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<v Speaker 1>for all of their green get rid of plant food

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<v Speaker 1>efforts through legislation. The Republicans want to do this because

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<v Speaker 1>they want to grease the skids to get effective, reliable

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<v Speaker 1>energy out of the ground and transmission lines built. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've got it's an all of the above approach is

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<v Speaker 1>the way I understand this, Donovan, or do I have

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's right because I think, you know, finally,

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<v Speaker 3>and it takes a while for Congress to do anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think, you know, the men and women who represent.

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<v Speaker 2>Us in Washington, D.C.

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<v Speaker 3>Across party lines recognized America's falling behind, right? And you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned it, AI and data centers, that stuff is putting

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<v Speaker 3>a strain on the grid, but it also has global

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<v Speaker 3>national security issues. You know, our friends at Concerned Veterans

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<v Speaker 3>for America, CVA, they've joined the show with you before,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and It's something they've been hammering on for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of years, right? If for nothing else, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get the energy permitting processes in this country resolved and

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<v Speaker 3>moving because we have global threats out there that if

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<v Speaker 3>we can't produce the armaments we need, if we can't

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<v Speaker 3>manufacture and grow our economy with cheap, reliable, affordable energy,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to fall behind. And so, you know, from

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<v Speaker 3>a national defense perspective to the, you know, getting the,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what makes the green energy folks happy with

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<v Speaker 3>getting their projects off the ground to, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>baseload energy that all of us, the youth from nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>to coal to natural gas and everything in between care about.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the kind of legislation we got to do

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<v Speaker 3>to get it done for a number of reasons. And finally,

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<v Speaker 3>folks around the table and actually moving on something that

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<v Speaker 3>could happen before the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the N word was in there. You mentioned Baja

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<v Speaker 1>contains or may address our demands, our nuclear demands, which

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<v Speaker 1>will literally satisfy all the problems we face in order

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<v Speaker 1>to bring about this artificial intelligence needs to exist, but

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to pay for its own power. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the only solid, reliable answer is the small modular reactor,

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<v Speaker 1>which they can bring with them. The only thing standing

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of that is federal government regulations over

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear power. So to deliver on the challenge or to

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<v Speaker 1>make good on the bring your own power challenge, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we need the permitting reform. Does the Baja actually

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<v Speaker 1>specifically mention nuclear in terms of reducing the regulatory challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody faces when they want to even consider nuclear?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it does begin to address some of that.

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<v Speaker 3>The challenges with nuclear are always the national defense perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was actually in a meeting in Columbus back

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday where With Cato Institute and a handful of

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<v Speaker 3>other folks talking about some opportunities for reform and nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>came up, Brian. And one of the things that were

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out there was could would with some of this

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<v Speaker 3>legislation and some things that are happening at the state level,

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity exists. You know, we're not going to build

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a big, you know, seven mile island type nuclear facility.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you're pointing out, these small these SMR small

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<v Speaker 3>modular reactors are. they might be able to work under

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<v Speaker 3>the onerous regulations that exist at the federal level so

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<v Speaker 3>that we can get these projects online, get that energy

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<v Speaker 3>onto the grid. Part of the solution, too, that is

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<v Speaker 3>getting talked about more and more is going with microgrids

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<v Speaker 3>where we have um, you know, a data center or

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<v Speaker 3>a number of manufacturers come together and finance and off the,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, um, uh, behind the meter energy generation, you

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<v Speaker 3>could do that with SMRs. And I think that's part of,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say loophole, cause it sounds like somebody's

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<v Speaker 3>circumventing something for nefarious reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But part of what I believe would be at loophole

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<v Speaker 3>from the federal regulators that have just, it just don't

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<v Speaker 3>move and just don't do the, the, the, the due.

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<v Speaker 2>Diligence to get these projects off the ground. Right. They

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<v Speaker 2>just wait the people out and, we the people suffer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, I don't know what it does in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of noise, but I know GE manufacturers, you know, jet

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<v Speaker 1>engines that they convert into power plants. And they're small

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, that's an easy solution. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>how many of these you would need to generate the

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<v Speaker 1>power you need in an AI center, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know those exist. I had a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine that would go around the world installing them in

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<v Speaker 1>various third world countries where they didn't have any electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>And most notably, he mentioned even the drug cartels would

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<v Speaker 1>buy these things to power their needs and also provide

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<v Speaker 1>local communities with electricity. making everyone happy. So options exist, Donovan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they sure do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, another thing I want to make sure I

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<v Speaker 3>point to while we're on here talking about this today

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<v Speaker 3>is shot clocks. We did this with House Bill 15

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<v Speaker 3>here in Ohio. That was the legislation that undid the

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear bailout legislation and affirmed a free market approach to

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<v Speaker 3>energy in the state. But shot clocks, you know, how

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<v Speaker 3>many times do you hear about these stories, right, where

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<v Speaker 3>the federal agency just keeps asking for more or starts

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<v Speaker 3>the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then some other third party shows up and they

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<v Speaker 3>have to restart the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. 60 day shot clock, Brian. 60 days.

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<v Speaker 3>The federal government has to have an answer. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>some other timelines that get applied here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But in general, one of the biggest things that we've

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard in sitting with legislators and talking to folks

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<v Speaker 3>in the energy sector and ivory tower think tank types is.

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<v Speaker 2>People just don't know when they're going to get it.

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<v Speaker 3>They put an application into the federal government, and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't know when they're going to get an answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't have to get an answer. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you get investment that way, right?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you get people to pony up cash to

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<v Speaker 3>invest in an energy project if you don't know when

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<v Speaker 3>you're ever going, if you will ever see that money

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<v Speaker 3>have a return?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just throw out XL Pipeline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. God almighty. It's on. It's off. It's on. It's off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on. It's off. Throw in your towel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with this. We'll continue. It's happening here in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Give Ohioans more say over costly rules. Donovan Neal on

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<v Speaker 1>rains in the talk station. 741 here, 55KRCD talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas with Donovan Neal, Americans for Prosperity. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>pivoting away from Washington and back to Columbus. Rains is

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<v Speaker 1>a lamed up priority for everyone, I think, in my

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<v Speaker 1>listening audience. It is for Americans for Prosperity. Remind my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners what's going on here in the state of Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>and is there any chance of this actually moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>while the Republicans maintain a supermajority.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so REINS, another clever acronym from the politicians, is

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<v Speaker 3>the regulations from the executive in need of scrutiny. And

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<v Speaker 3>what this legislation would do is proactively curb red tape

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<v Speaker 3>rules and regulations, especially focused on the ones that have

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<v Speaker 3>a costly impact to the economy. And so, in short,

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<v Speaker 3>the way this legislation works is, you know, the The

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<v Speaker 3>executive office, right, the governor will issue, you know, their

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<v Speaker 3>office will issue some rules and regulations, and they have

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<v Speaker 3>to go before a committee called JCAR.

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<v Speaker 2>It's made up of the legislature. That body reviews every

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<v Speaker 2>one of those rules and regulations.

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<v Speaker 3>But Raines would add another provision that would say if

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<v Speaker 3>a rule or regulation has a certain economic impact threshold,

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<v Speaker 3>it actually has to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the whole legislature, right? for uh approval.

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<v Speaker 3>Because what happens here brian wright is we pass these

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<v Speaker 3>laws you know 30 40 50 years ago they don't

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<v Speaker 3>get updated and the bureaucrats right a clever bureaucrat who

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<v Speaker 3>um maybe they can't get a bill passed through the

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<v Speaker 3>you know conservative legislature but they sort of interpret the

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<v Speaker 3>law a little more broadly than it was maybe originally envisioned, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the Clean Water Act, which is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with navigable waters, and the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're regulating a tablespoon of water on your private property

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<v Speaker 1>under that. Yeah, a little legislative creep there, a regulatory creep.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. That regulatory creep. Well, you've got to take that. If,

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<v Speaker 3>if rains were to be enacted, you'd have to take

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<v Speaker 3>that back to the full legislature. And, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>they agree and say, yeah, that, you know, the, the,

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<v Speaker 3>the environmental benefits, right. Or the public benefits outweigh the economic.

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<v Speaker 2>Impact we approve. That's all this bill does. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>This this idea, this rains act idea does is make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that the legislature, the people we elect to represent

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<v Speaker 3>us in Columbus, you know, have a say in these

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<v Speaker 3>types of things. And so it's an important check on

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<v Speaker 3>the executive branch when you have these rules and regulations proliferate.

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<v Speaker 1>So with Governor Amy, I still struggle with that, Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Amy Acton. Boy, that hurts in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my throat like bile back there when I say it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so if she decides she wants to shut

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<v Speaker 1>down the state of Ohio because of, oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the flu, then they'll be able to stand in her way.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to shoehorn this into an Amy lockdown acting scenario, Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's the area that is absolutely, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the ideas here of.

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<v Speaker 2>Making sure that does not happen again. I think beyond that, though, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there there are.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they literally enact, you know, hundreds, if not

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of rules and regulations every year. By the way, Republicans,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll presume Democrats, will follow suit if not supercharge that.

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<v Speaker 3>This REINS Act kind of, you know, keeps those, even

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<v Speaker 3>those less maybe visible rules and regulations, right, from ever

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<v Speaker 3>going into effect, or at least putting a stopgap on

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<v Speaker 3>them to make sure that the people and their representatives

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<v Speaker 3>have an opportunity to make, to have a say on it. So,

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one thing I want to point out here, too,

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<v Speaker 3>because this has come up in the national narrative, is that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Republican legislatures are trying to, you know, curb

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<v Speaker 3>executive offices. You know, this was something that was in

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<v Speaker 3>the state budget last year. We wanted to put this

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican legislature wanted to put this check in place over.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican governor. Right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So this isn't something to just curb Democrats or, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>thwart executive power. Well, it is to curb executive power,

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<v Speaker 3>both for Republicans and Democrats. It's good public policy and

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<v Speaker 3>something we're going to be pushing for over the next

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks during the Ohio lame duck session.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good public policy also, because with the rains act

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<v Speaker 1>in effect, it will force our elected officials to draft

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<v Speaker 1>more contemplative future thinking legislation.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>We need to draft this tightly so it can't be

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<v Speaker 1>expanded through regulatory creep in the background, or we need

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<v Speaker 1>to articulate the specific reasons for any given piece of

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<v Speaker 1>legislation so it can't be used to shoehorn in broader

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<v Speaker 1>regulatory reaches because it's so loosely written. This would force

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<v Speaker 1>them to do their job better, wouldn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and interestingly enough, that's one of the reasons I've

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<v Speaker 3>been told, we've been told, and this isn't just in Ohio,

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<v Speaker 3>it's around the country where AFP works on this legislation—

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<v Speaker 3>There are legislators who say, well, isn't that going to

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<v Speaker 3>make us have to consider more bills or do more work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yes, Mr. Representative, you will do your job. Damn

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<v Speaker 2>right it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we need you to do is have that oversight,

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<v Speaker 3>be that check and balance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of their job description. Yes, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>work and draft proper legislation so it can't be misinterpreted.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America, Donovan, the nerve of some people to

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<v Speaker 1>say something like that out loud. I mean, maybe me

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it. Which is why I brought up the concept,

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<v Speaker 1>but clearly that's on their agenda and they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Pathetic. Donovan, what do we need to do? They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on the record. No, they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the record. Anyway, typical politicians don't expect

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<v Speaker 1>much from them. They're not going to deliver. State Director

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<v Speaker 1>AFP Action and Hive Donovan O'Neill, what are our action items?

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<v Speaker 1>Getting in touch with our elected officials while they're still there.

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<v Speaker 3>Get in touch with your elected officials, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>always go to BuckeyeBlueprint.com.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be working hard.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be traveling around the state in December,

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<v Speaker 3>firing folks up and helping set a course forward for

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<v Speaker 3>the next Congress, the next administration, and we want you

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<v Speaker 3>to join us.

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<v Speaker 2>BuckeyeBlueprint.com.

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<v Speaker 1>BuckeyeBlueprint.com, or just look up your elected officials' contact information.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with them. This is an important issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to have it enshrined in law before well...

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<v Speaker 1>It hits the fan after January. Donovan O'Neill, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for all the work that you do on behalf of Ohioans,

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<v Speaker 1>even though some of them don't appreciate it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're there and you got our collective best interest at heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll look forward to having you back on the

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<v Speaker 1>program next Wednesday, my friend.