1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: We're headed out to the KIAE Commaspird Health outline and 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: bringing a good friend, good friend of the program from 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: the Athletic Nick cosmid Or. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Nick. 5 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: You're all with Ryan Edwards and Benjamin Olbright. How are you, 6 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: my friend? 7 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm good? 8 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 3: How are you? Guys? Doing great? 9 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Very excited about not only tonight with the Nuggets, and 10 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I definitely want to ask you a couple of questions 11 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: about that, but also of course, uh, the game on Sunday. 12 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, there's gonna be a lot made 13 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: of the offense needing to sort of carry their weight 14 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: in this one. Where do you come down on what 15 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: we've seen from the offense seven games in? 16 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it all comes out to 17 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: the balance of about where they're where they're kind of 18 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: ranked statistically, which is which is pretty average, right, whether 19 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: you look at scoring, you know EPA per play, you 20 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: know yards per game, it's it's all kind of in 21 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: that that league average kind of level. And you know 22 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: that that has been good enough to be five and 23 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: two when you have a defense that is as good 24 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: as this one is, when you have a quarterback who 25 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: has shown the ability in the moments that truly matter, 26 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: most games of late to get the job done. But 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: it's also not good enough to think that this is 28 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: a team that can ultimately be a championship type contender 29 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: as it's currently playing. And so I think that's that's 30 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: where some of the frustration, both externally internally comes in, 31 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: is that you know they have some of the right 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: stuff that can make you look at it and say, 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: especially in what appears to be a pretty open league 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: this year, you know to compete, but that won't happen 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: unless they unless they get it going. 36 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: And that's just kind of. 37 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: The urgency that you felt being around there this week. 38 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: It's all well and good when you're up against teams 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 4: like the Jets or or the Giants or the Bengals 40 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: post Joe Burrow and you're able to do that kind 41 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 4: of stuff, but you've got a tough slate of games 42 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: caught up. The Cowboys can put points on points on points, 43 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: even if they can't stop anybody. The Texans look like 44 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: they may be starting to figure a little something out 45 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: on offense and have a very good defense. 46 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: Kansas City looks. 47 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: Like they're finally starting to hit their stride. You get 48 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: the walk Commanders on Sunday, Night Football, the Packers coming 49 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: up another game against the Chargers, the only two GIMEA 50 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: games in here. It looks like the Broncos have left 51 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: of the Raiders this thing, like if they don't get 52 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: the offensive proved, could these things go sideways fast? 53 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, and that's the thing of it, especially 54 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: when you look at it then, and you I mean, 55 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: I know you. 56 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: Know this, but they you could look at that game. 57 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: Pretty much any game it wasn't the Bengals game could 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: have gone the other direction. And Garrett Bowles said in 59 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: the locker room after the game on Sunday, like, you know, 60 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: we know we could be seven and er right now, 61 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: and that's true, but they could just as easily, you know, 62 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: be you know, B one and six. I wouldn't really 63 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: quite put the Titans game in that category. I don't 64 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: think there was ever any you know, real concern with 65 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: that one, even though they certainly did not play well. 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: But but really so let's say two and five, like 67 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 2: you could easily, you know, point. 68 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: To that and say if some of these hadn't. 69 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Gone right late of late, then you would be looking 70 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: at that kind of wreck right now. So absolutely, I 71 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: think it's tenuous and that and that's the whole thing. 72 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Like they're saying, you're not going to avoid close games 73 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: in the NFL. They're they're they're part, they're part of 74 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: the league's fabric like that, that's just the way it goes. 75 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: But you can also put yourself in better positions to 76 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: where you're not, you know, again, coming down to the 77 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: last minute and not only coming down the last minute, 78 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: but having to to to rally and do all these 79 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: kind of like out of the box things in order 80 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: to even get in that position. That that's that's what 81 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,279 Speaker 2: they have to avoid. Because yeah, I completely agree. 82 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: That it's not it's not sustainable. 83 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: To win this way if you cannot find more consistency 84 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: with what you're doing offensively. 85 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: But I imagine as you've been in the locker room 86 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: this week, you haven't gotten the sense from the guys 87 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: that they're they're satisfied with us either. 88 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: Oh oh no. 89 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: Like I again, I think that's the confounding thing. Like 90 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: you talk to a guy like like Mike McGlinchey and 91 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: he says like this, you know, that's it's part of 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: the frustrating thing is because we know we have we 93 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: have what it takes. Because when you go back and 94 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: they start. You know, they look at it you if 95 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: you were just a team that never showed you. 96 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: Know, there's a lot of bad offenses in the NFL. 97 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: That aren't showing these kind of fireworks in stretches that 98 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: the Broncos have, like there. I think they're top ten 99 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: in an explosive play rate. So it's it's not that 100 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: they don't have the capability. It's not that they haven't 101 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: shown it in stretches. It's it's the inability to get. 102 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: On a roll. 103 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram said, if you look, if you look at it, 104 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: when we get a first down, we're really good. And 105 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: the problem is they go three and out as much 106 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: as almost anybody in the league. And so there's that 107 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: fine line of like getting going. It seems like once 108 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: they can get going on a drive, more often than 109 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: not they finish it. They've just had too many where 110 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: they didn't get that initial first down or maybe you know, 111 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: the second one. It's almost like once they get to 112 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: the fifty, they can see the goal line, they're in 113 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: good position, but they've just been tripping themselves up too 114 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: much to find that rhythm that would make them a 115 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: good offense right now. 116 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it feels like there are feels to me 117 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 4: like I mean, I'm just a door with a microphone. 118 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: Do I really know? 119 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: But it feels to me like there are easy fixes 120 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: to this kind of stuff. You know, if there are 121 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: things that aren't working and we have large enough sample 122 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: sizes to see that they're not working, and we have 123 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: things that are working that we're not doing, why not 124 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 4: just you know, I get the oversimplification, but just switch 125 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: to the things that are working. Why aren't we running 126 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: the football more early? Why aren't we running the football 127 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: inside the five yard line? Why aren't we deleting these 128 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: And I know Sean doesn't want to talk about it, 129 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: but deleting the screenplays that aren't working or are working 130 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: at a twenty to thirty percent clip. Why aren't we 131 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: just doing higher percentage things to maximize the talent we have? 132 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: Well, and Joe Lombarty said when he got up to 133 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: the podium today. 134 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: On coordinator day there he was kind of asked about. 135 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: The you know, the gap between the struggles you know, 136 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: in earlier parts of game versus the fourth quarter, and 137 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: he says, well, we've told him this week we're just 138 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: going to do the fourth quarter stuff early. In the game, 139 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: and it's it's that whole like there's always a kernel 140 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: of truth to you know, to a good joke, right, 141 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: and that the truth part of that is that while 142 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: you can't play the same way in terms of just 143 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: like you know, up tempo or whatever else, like a 144 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: lot of that comeback. The Giants were playing them straight 145 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: because they had to, and what you were finding success 146 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: with was like just just attacking your good one on 147 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: one matchups. And I think they they work so hard 148 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: to kind of scheme things the way that they want 149 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: to that you know, like, hey, Courland Sutton can beat 150 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: can win most of his one on one matchups. Marvin 151 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: Mims has shown more and more that that he can 152 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: win one on one matchups in different ways, including like 153 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: going up and getting a ball for you. And they 154 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: just seem to play more free when when when that 155 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: really becomes the focus and bo is really just kind 156 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: of looking at that top read. I understand you're not 157 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: getting they're not getting a ton of one on one 158 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: looks all the time. But again, I just think that 159 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: they need to simplify things earlier in the game versus 160 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, waiting to get down and then just kind 161 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: of going out and making place. 162 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: Nick Cosmoner from the Athletics joining us here. Let's go 163 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: to the other side of the ball here for a moment, 164 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: and and I do want to talk about your article 165 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: in a second about being the most penalized team. That's 166 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: an obviously important factor all this, But just a question 167 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: on the defense this Dallas Cowboys oftense. I mean, as 168 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're one of top two, top three 169 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: across the league. So I guess your perspective, how would 170 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: you defend them on the back end. 171 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. I thought that Joseph had an interesting 172 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: point today where he's saying, like, if you look at it, 173 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: the Cowboys when they're in their like eleven personnel, they're 174 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: averaging like six point two yards per carry. 175 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: And that's because you. 176 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Know, teams are having to play them, you know, kind 177 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: of play them high because of all the weapons that 178 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott has. And so in the running game, Javonte 179 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: Williams is getting a lot of you know, to in 180 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: vance Joseph's words, a lot of clean boxes. So that 181 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: that is the challenge, Like once you've incorporated that balance, 182 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: once you've proven that you can attack down the field 183 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: with the weapons that they have in ceede Lam, George Pickens, 184 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: and Jake Ferguson. Now, like now the running game becomes 185 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: much a much easier part of that question, and it 186 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: starts to build on itself. So, you know, I heard 187 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: Tella Nohufangas talking in the locker room about like what 188 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: they have to do really well. Advanced Joseph mentioned this too, 189 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: is like some of the cat. 190 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: And mouse disguise stuff that. 191 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: This defense has typically done a pretty good job of 192 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: of like not really giving you a clean sense of 193 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: what it is that they are, what it is that 194 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: they're bringing, you know, having the late rotations, really doing 195 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: it as best they can to kind of mix up 196 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: those looks for Dak Prescott so that they're you know, 197 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: maybe not showing heavy boxes, but being able to come 198 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: down and bring. 199 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 3: That, you know, right after the snap. 200 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: I think those are kind of kind of be some 201 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: of the interesting subplots of this game on Sunday. 202 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: All right, So one more Broncos question before we ask 203 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: about the Nuggets. Really good breakdown here on the penalties 204 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: is horses depressing to look at it to leading the 205 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: NFL in yrs penalized by a wide margin. As you 206 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: put at five hundred and seventy five with Jacksonville d 207 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: in next to five twenty eight. It's it's stunning when 208 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: you think about this coaching staff and the tension of 209 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: detail that you know it resides inside that building. What 210 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: do you make of it? 211 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. I think confounding is a good word, vexing, perplexing, 212 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: you know, whatever, whatever kind of words you want to 213 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 2: use for it. Because as Peyton noted too, I think 214 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: the thing that he is clearly kind of like missed 215 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: by is that it's coming from everywhere. It's not just 216 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: like they're having this one set of problems, and. 217 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: Like you know, I mean in twenty twenty two they. 218 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: Were obviously heavily penalized under Nathaniel Hackett. And I think 219 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: as the season went bad, like you start getting more 220 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: personal foulsand so that starts kind of compounding itself. But 221 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: early on it was just these like influx of you know, 222 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: crazy delay of game, pre pre snap stuff. 223 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Here. 224 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: It's just like so widespread that you know that it's 225 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: a little bit harder to put your put your finger 226 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: on it, you know. But I was talking to Evan 227 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: Ingram about I say, hey, I know this is a 228 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: hard thing to ask about, right, because, yeah, of course 229 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: they don't want to be committing penalties. But his thing was, like, 230 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: we just we have to understand that, like, we cannot 231 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: live this way. 232 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: Like it. 233 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: It's pretty rare that you could have two different games 234 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: in which you're penalized twelve times for one hundred and 235 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: twenty plus yards and win both of those games. That 236 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: was Philadelphia and that was the New York Giants. 237 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: And you know, the Lady luck is. 238 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: Not going to continue to shine on you if you 239 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: can't figure it out. So I don't have a good 240 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: answer as to how they do it. Like, obviously there's 241 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: technique that they look at, there's you know, points of 242 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: emphasis that they have in their team meetings. All those 243 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: things are kind of part of the gumbo of figuring 244 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: this thing out. But bottom line is they just have 245 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: to do it because at this rate, you know, it's 246 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: eventually going. 247 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 4: To bite you, you know, Nika, Yeah, I've been they've 248 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: been on discipline, second worst in the NFL in turns 249 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: being penalized. But somebody who looks fairly disciplined, as Jabal 250 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: Murray the Nuggets, looks like he's in the best shape 251 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: I've seen him and since probably drafted to the Nuggets. 252 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: Nuggets tip it off the night against Golden State Warriors. 253 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: What are you looking forward to. 254 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: In this one? 255 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think just right there, I mean, 256 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: no Number one, it would be him. I think that 257 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: that was something back, you know, back when I was 258 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: covering the team on a regular basis that like you 259 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: you've been hearing about. It's like just kind of this 260 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: this this hope, this this push to have Jamal Murray 261 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, kind of show up in the kind of 262 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: shape that he seems to be in right now going 263 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: into this season. And you know, part of that again 264 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: has been injuries that spanned a couple off seasons and 265 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 2: some different things like that. 266 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: Clearly last year there was you know, there. 267 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: Was the internal tension in the organization, there was the 268 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: delay of his contract. There was just a lot of 269 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: like funky stuff that kind of clouded the start of 270 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: his season. But just just the kind of clearheadedness from 271 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: Afar that it seems that he has going into this 272 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: year I think is big and I want to see 273 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: how that translates. And then the other thing is like 274 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: how much can they get Nicole Yokich off of his feet? 275 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: This year. 276 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be critical. You know again 277 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: that we know this guy is just a machine in 278 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: terms of his endurance and all those kinds of things. 279 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: But you know, he's another year older. I think you 280 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: want to have him more. 281 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: Fresh going into the playoffs this. 282 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Year than you did last year. So like, you know, 283 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: how how much can then get on the Valcunis on 284 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: the floor because they can kind of play a little 285 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: bit more of the same way when when Yokic sits, 286 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: you know, maybe that allows you to kind of give 287 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: him some some longer runs. You know, if you if 288 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: this roster is overall better, maybe maybe you have more 289 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: leaves late in games than you did last year. And 290 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: then again like that, the other part of that test 291 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: is can Adaman take a bigger picture. 292 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: View than sometimes Mike Michael Malone did. 293 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: That was such sort of the criticism of just like, 294 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, playing guys heavy minutes early in the year 295 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: because you're you're chasing every win, when hey, we know 296 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: we're good enough to be where we need to be 297 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Let's not lose side of the you know, 298 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: the forest through the trees kind of thing. So those 299 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: are those are a few of the things I'm really 300 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: looking looking forward to seeing from them. 301 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it. 302 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: And then one thing in this last thing for me, 303 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us, Nick. The chemistry thing, right, 304 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: this team up until this year was kind of the 305 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: same course that's not kind of the same guys, and 306 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: they knew even if they had to play a lot 307 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: of minutes, they knew what they were going to be doing. 308 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Cam Johnson now in place of Michael Porter Junior, Like, 309 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: how does that change some of the rotations and where 310 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be. And I understand that a 311 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are excited about how he's going to 312 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: be a better defensive player, but there were some nice 313 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: things that Michael Porter Junior obviously did for this team. 314 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: You know, Bruce Brown's gonna fit right like a glove. 315 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not worried worried about that, but you 316 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: mentioned Valanciunas, you know what's that going to look like? 317 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: So for me, like, the chemistry of things early on 318 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: is going to be something to watch. What do you think? 319 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I one hundred percent agreed. 320 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: I think as good as I think a lot of 321 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: people think this team is, and it certainly looks like, 322 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: you know, the best rosters since at least their championship 323 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: season in twenty three, and I don't think people even 324 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: thought that roster was that good going into that year. 325 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: You know, as good as it is, I think it 326 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: would be naive to not think there is going to 327 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: be some you know, maybe some early season hiccups because 328 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: of that what you said, Like they've played with largely 329 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: the same cast for quite a while, and they made 330 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: some pretty big shakeups this off season. But I think 331 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: you need it. I think you need sort of that refresher. 332 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we even just look at the you know, 333 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: the Patriots in our sport that we cover, right like 334 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: they had already won championships and then all of a sudden, 335 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: you get a guy like with the talent of Randy Moss. 336 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: And I know they did not add somebody of that 337 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: talent profile. I'm just saying, like somebody with that kind 338 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: of energy that they brought in and all of a sudden, 339 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: a team that you said you knew was a championship 340 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: type team but then just elevated to a different level 341 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: because you had this sort of spark. I'm interested to 342 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: see what the collective of these new guys. Brings that 343 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: kind of element to the nuggets. But yeah, I think 344 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: that getting that chemistry right, figuring out rotations and all 345 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: those kinds of things are going to be important, no doubt. 346 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Nick always appreciated man, great reporting. As always, We will 347 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: talk to you. 348 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: Soon, all right. 349 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Well, thanks a lot the cosmidor from the Athletic. Really 350 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: good stuff there.