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Speaker 1: This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome aboard, thanks for tuning in. Merry Christmas. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: all the truckers out there. I want to start off

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Speaker 2: by saying that thank you to all the truckers out

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Speaker 2: there on the highway. You are out there keeping the

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Speaker 2: wheels of the economy rolling, delivering all the stuff that

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Speaker 2: people are going to be looking for after the Christmas season,

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Speaker 2: as well as all the groceries people are going to

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Speaker 2: be looking at to do their celebrations if they do

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Speaker 2: more celebrations over the weekend. Again, also first responders want

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Speaker 2: to thank shout out to the first responders, police and fire,

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Speaker 2: hospital workers, food service employees. You know, if you go

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Speaker 2: to a restaurant, if you and your family celebrate Christmas

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Speaker 2: by going to a restaurant, those people are there on

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Speaker 2: Christmas Day when they could be home with their families.

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Speaker 2: That's why a lot of people in the food service

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Speaker 2: industry and in other industries actually celebrate their holidays a

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Speaker 2: day before, week before, the weekend after, or something along

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Speaker 2: those lines. Also, you got your hotel and motel workers.

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Speaker 2: If you're staying someplace, all those people that are taking

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Speaker 2: care of you while you're at the hotel. There for

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Speaker 2: you as well, store clerks and convenience store employees. And

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Speaker 2: take the time if you will at some point, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you go into these stores or you go someplace,

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Speaker 2: just take the time to say thank you for being here.

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Speaker 3: Now, first of all, and I want to talk about

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Speaker 3: this a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Christmas is not the end of the Christmas season. It

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Speaker 2: is the beginning. There is the common misconception that the

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Speaker 2: Twelve Days at Christmas actually occur before Christmas, when in

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Speaker 2: fact the December twenty fourth and earlier are advent days

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Speaker 2: and a period of preparation, not the actual twelve Days

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Speaker 2: of Christmas. The Twelve Days at Christmas is a festive

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Speaker 2: Christian season from just remember the twenty fifth, which is

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Speaker 2: Christmas Day, to January the fifth, the twelfth night, ending

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Speaker 2: with the Epiphany on January the sixth, marking the journey

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Speaker 2: of the Magei to Jesus. The celebrations include feasts, religious observances,

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Speaker 2: gift giving, caroling, et cetera. Now, again, as far as

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Speaker 2: the timing is concerned, starts Christmas Day Day one ends

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Speaker 2: on the twelfth night January fifth, leading up to the Epiphany.

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Speaker 3: On the sixth.

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Speaker 2: Now, the significance of this commemorates in the Nativity and

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Speaker 2: the arrival of the Three Wise Men, known as the Magi.

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Speaker 2: Activities of feasting parties, caroling famous song, lighting yule logs,

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Speaker 2: exchanging gifts, often on the first day of first or

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Speaker 2: last day, in a mix of religious and secular merriment.

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Speaker 3: Now there are religious feasts during this.

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Speaker 2: Specific days for saints like Saint Stephen, which was who

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Speaker 2: was the first martyr on December the twenty sixth, as

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Speaker 2: Saint John December the twenty seventh, and the Holy Innocence

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Speaker 2: on December third, December twenty eighth. Now, going back into

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Speaker 2: the time and the Bible, at that time, Herod, who

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Speaker 2: was the king, had learned that the King of the

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Speaker 2: Jews had been born, and because he didn't know who

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Speaker 2: that was, and because he was fearful of somebody coming

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Speaker 2: up and taking his title, he sent his people out

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Speaker 2: to kill the first born male child of every family

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Speaker 2: in the area first born male child a slaughter. Again

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Speaker 2: the feast of the Holy Innocence. The origin of the

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Speaker 2: traditions in Europe, solidified by the Church to unify celebrations

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Speaker 2: around the winter solstice and the Eastern Church's Epiphany. Now

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Speaker 2: a lot of Christian traditions because they were dealing with

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Speaker 2: the time of where you know, at the start of

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Speaker 2: the Christian religion, Catholic religion during the Roman times, Roman

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Speaker 2: was pretty much pagan. A lot of areas around the

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Speaker 2: world were pagan before non Christian, before Christianity came into

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Speaker 2: existence in those areas, and kind of a way of

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Speaker 2: melding the different celebrations for what they did versus what

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Speaker 2: the Catholics did, they kind of changed things around and

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Speaker 2: kind of incorporated them with those traditions again, Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure when Christmas Day actually was in

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Speaker 2: terms of going back into history, but it was solidified

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Speaker 2: around the winter solstice in order to combine with the

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Speaker 2: other people that might have been celebrating at that time

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Speaker 2: that weren't Christian and kind of had the two celebrations

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Speaker 2: going on at the same time. Course, decorations traditionally Christmas

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Speaker 2: trees and decoration aren't taken down after the Twelfth Night.

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Speaker 2: I never understood a lot of people, and I know

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Speaker 2: some people that you know, Christmas Day, they have Christmas

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Speaker 2: and so on, and then all of a sudden the

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Speaker 2: next day there ripping do not ripping down, but taking

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Speaker 2: down decorations and cleaning out the house and forget about Christmas.

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Speaker 2: But to do Christmas right, it is not just the

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Speaker 2: is a celebration of the Christmas season for the next

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Speaker 2: twelve days. And of course many people know about the

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Speaker 2: twelve Days of Christmas. Buy the song, of course, twelve

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Speaker 2: days of Christmas, six birds, four groups of performers, one

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Speaker 2: group of farm hands, one set of precious metals, and

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Speaker 2: a tree. Well, if you're following it home, you added

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Speaker 2: that up and you said, Kevin, that's thirteen items. How

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Speaker 2: do you get the twelve days of Christmas from that? Well,

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Speaker 2: you've got the partridge in a pear tree, which is

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Speaker 2: part of the first day of Christmas. So again you've

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Speaker 2: got basically those items. Now, PNC Bank and they've been

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Speaker 2: doing this for a number of years, and I'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that in a minute. Every year they come out

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Speaker 2: with the PNC Chris Smith's Price Index. I have been

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Speaker 2: following this every year as long as I can remember.

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Speaker 2: Every time I'm on the air around that time period,

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Speaker 2: I talk about the PNC Christmas Price Index. Interestingly enough, CPI,

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Speaker 2: which is like the Consumer Price Index.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I have been following this.

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Speaker 2: I always look forward to around the Thanksgiving season when

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Speaker 2: this index is released, and I look forward to seeing that.

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Speaker 2: Being a numbers guy, being a recovering accountant, I'm always

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Speaker 2: interested in the details behind. I'm interested in the cost.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in the inflation and how that reflects the

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Speaker 2: P ANDZ. To give you an introduction if you've not

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Speaker 2: heard of this before, the PNC Price Christmas Price Index.

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Speaker 2: It's an annual tradition which shows the current cost of

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Speaker 2: one set of each of the gifts in the song

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Speaker 2: the Twelve Days of Christmas. It is similar to the

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Speaker 2: US Price and Consumer Price Index, which measures the changing

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Speaker 2: prices of goods and services like housing, food, clothing, and

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Speaker 2: transportation and more that reflect the spending habits of the

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Speaker 2: average American. The goods and services in the PNC Christmas

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Speaker 2: Price Index are far more whimsical, of course, and for

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Speaker 2: most years the price changes closely mirror those of the

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Speaker 2: Consumer Price Index. And it's been something that's been very

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Speaker 2: amazing to me. Where you take a song, you add

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Speaker 2: up the price of all those items with the various

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Speaker 2: items about that and all the different components to that,

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Speaker 2: and it very closely mirrors what's going on in the

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Speaker 2: regular economy. For anybody that's interested in this, if you

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Speaker 2: go to PNC their website, the p and C and

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Speaker 2: just look up p and C Christmas Price Index, it

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Speaker 2: is a great tool in order to teach kids about inflation,

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Speaker 2: talk about goods, and talk about different things as far

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Speaker 2: as the economy is concerned. And as I said, this

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Speaker 2: is something where on a usual year, most years it

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Speaker 2: closely mirrors what goes on as far as the economy

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Speaker 2: is concerned. And the consumer price index fun way to

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Speaker 2: measure consumer spending and trends in the economy. So even

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Speaker 2: if Piper's Piping or Guisa laying didn't make it on

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Speaker 2: your gift list this year, you can still learn about

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Speaker 2: a lot about checking out their prices and how they

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Speaker 2: have increased.

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Speaker 3: Over the years or decreased over the years.

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Speaker 2: It all started basically to go back to the beginning

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Speaker 2: forty two years ago as a way to engage clients

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Speaker 2: of PNC's predecessor, Prominent National Bank in Philadelphia during the

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Speaker 2: traditionally light holiday weeks that hatched as the creative brainchild

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Speaker 2: of the banks, and then Chief Economists has since grown

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Speaker 2: into one of the PNC's most popular and anticipated economic reports.

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Speaker 2: Over the years, trends of emerging the PNC Price Index

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Speaker 2: and has often increased or decreased as the rate is

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Speaker 2: consistent with the Consumer Price Index, a measure of inflation

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Speaker 2: also through the years, four factors have kind of influenced this.

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Speaker 3: The Internet.

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Speaker 2: They've started adding into their what it would cost if

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Speaker 2: you bought these items over the internet. The price of

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Speaker 2: services overall has increased while prices of goods have slowed.

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Speaker 2: This is a flip from forty two years ago when

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Speaker 2: goods were much higher than services. Fuel costs have to

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Speaker 2: be added in here. They have a major impact and

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Speaker 2: major effect on shipping, and as we know, fuel prices

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Speaker 2: have beencific significantly volatile over the last few years. Also

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Speaker 2: fact that performers couldn't be out there. They had to

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Speaker 2: eliminate a lot of that from the index, and so

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Speaker 2: the cost of that index went way, way, way way

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Speaker 2: then since the PNC price Index. Just give me on

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Speaker 2: a background. Since they launched the BLS and the Bureau

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Speaker 2: of Labor Statistics CPI Consumer Price Index has increased two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three percent over those forty two years,

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Speaker 2: while the PNC Christmas Price Index has only increased by

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Speaker 2: fifty seven one fifty seven percent. I should say, let's

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Speaker 2: get into the details of this coming up. I'm Kevin Gordon,

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Speaker 2: We're talking in the previous segment about PNC's twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five Christmas Price Index. The holiday cheer comes at a

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Speaker 2: premium total of all the gifts. The has risen four

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Speaker 2: point five percent compared to last year, out pacing the

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Speaker 2: Bureau of Labor Statistic Consumer Price Index over the year,

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Speaker 2: which is reading right around three percent. The data and

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Speaker 2: I'll get this, okay. The data is compiled by the

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Speaker 2: PNC's Investment off using sources from across the country including

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Speaker 2: dance and theater companies, hatcheries, pet stores, and others. Over All,

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Speaker 2: the twelve gifts of Christmas that comprise the p and

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Speaker 2: C Christmas Price index increased to a tree topping. If

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Speaker 2: you just bought each one of the individual items, we've

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Speaker 2: cost you fifty one thousand, four hundred and seventy six

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Speaker 2: dollars and twelve cents this year. According to Amanda Agatti,

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Speaker 2: she is the chief investment officer of P and C

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Speaker 2: Asset Management Group, this year's increase reflects labor market pressures

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Speaker 2: and economic uncertainty, not tariffs. Truelove's list is all domestic now.

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Speaker 2: That is you know again and what I've been talking

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Speaker 2: in this economy that are not affected by tariffs, even

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Speaker 2: though what we are hearing from the spoon fed regurgitators

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Speaker 2: in the mainstream media. Again, she indicates this year's increase

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Speaker 2: reflects labor market pressures, which is what I've been talking

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Speaker 7: Just how many more documents are loved to go through?

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Speaker 7: The surprise is a large number. But if you're twelve

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Speaker 7: thirty re parts, I'm Lee Mawen breaking Now. A surprise

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Speaker 8: It's a surprise Christmas Eve announcement that the FBI and

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Speaker 8: Federal prosecutors in Manhattan have uncovered over a million more

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Speaker 7: ABC News National correspondent Stephen Portnoy now the.

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Speaker 6: Ladies forecast from a train heating and cooling weather center

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Speaker 9: After freely dropping down into the upper forties, ver Santa

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Speaker 9: Mark Stitz News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 7: Scattered rain now in central Butler County as it's starting

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Speaker 10: Really encourage people to not use those free Wi Fi sites,

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Speaker 11: Here's your trucking forecast for the Try State and the

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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gord in Americastrucking Network seven hundred WLW. I

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Speaker 2: have the pleasure of bringing back to the program somebody

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Speaker 2: He is the Dean of Manufacturing Transportation Technology at Gateway

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Speaker 3: Sam, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 5: JA, Thanks guy, I appreciate you bringing me back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For people or may not be familiar with him, he's

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Speaker 2: got a very amazing background. He's been an ASA certified

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Speaker 2: And that's a fantastic story to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Sam. I applaud you for that, and I really admire

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Speaker 12: Well, it definitely was not the planned when I graduated

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Speaker 2: Well, I am going to skip down to something I

436
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Speaker 2: was going to talk about earlier. Later I mentioned you

437
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Speaker 2: off air that last week I was down at the

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Speaker 2: in Nashville for the twentieth anniversary of Rush Enterprises Tech

439
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Speaker 2: Skills Rodeo, and we got a chance to talk to

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Speaker 2: a bunch of the technicians that competed. Over three hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars in prizes were given away in cash prizes,

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Speaker 2: and well there was some fantastic looking trophies. But in

443
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Speaker 2: interviewing them again, this came about and as you were

444
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Speaker 2: talking about being able to get a career path in

445
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Speaker 2: terms of not where you expected to be a lot

446
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Speaker 2: of these people didn't know what they were going to

447
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Speaker 2: do out of college a college or high school and

448
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Speaker 2: found their way into a skill and just was open

449
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Speaker 2: to that. So I guess before we get started, maybe

450
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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that how people can this

451
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Speaker 2: may be something for them to explore, which is something

452
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Speaker 2: different than what they had originally intended to be involved.

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Speaker 12: In well and Kevin, you know, that's a great point

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Speaker 12: because I talked to more and more and more students

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Speaker 12: every year parents that because you know, again, when I

456
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Speaker 12: was a kid, my.

457
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Speaker 5: Dad worked on his own car. We quickly figured out

458
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Speaker 5: I was much better at it.

459
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Speaker 12: Than he was, and next thing you know, he's handed

460
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Speaker 12: me the tools and I'm doing the work. So I

461
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Speaker 12: was able to find my niche and figure out, hey,

462
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Speaker 12: I'm pretty good at this and I really enjoy it.

463
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Speaker 5: Those days are gone.

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Speaker 12: The playing with a point where the appliances and taking

465
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Speaker 12: things apart is gone. So many people don't know if

466
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Speaker 12: they have interests, a skill, a talent in the trades

467
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Speaker 12: at all unless they're have an opportunity where mother, uncle, grandpa,

468
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Speaker 12: somebody does.

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Speaker 5: Something in the trades that they get to tag along with.

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Speaker 12: So we do a lot of touring and talking to

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Speaker 12: students and introducing them to instructors and letting them come

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Speaker 12: into labs and see what programs are about.

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Speaker 2: Now is that geared towards the high school students at

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Speaker 2: different schools and stuff.

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Speaker 3: You go around and talk to them kind of basically recruit.

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Speaker 5: Well. Yeah, so one thing, yes, obviously we're in the

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Speaker 5: high schools.

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Speaker 12: We have a whole team at Gateway that does that,

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Speaker 12: and then you know, we'll arrange tours at the college

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Speaker 12: for those that still have interest. You know, hey, if

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Speaker 12: you say, man, I'm going to be a chemical engineer,

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Speaker 12: and I know that for a fact, great, go be

483
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Speaker 12: a chemical engineer. I got But they're like, I don't know,

484
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Speaker 12: I think I want to work.

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Speaker 5: With my hands. Okay, let's talk about what does that mean?

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Speaker 12: Because that opens up so many different avenues, and so

487
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Speaker 12: we actually have.

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Speaker 5: High school what we we call.

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Speaker 12: Them apprenticeship pathways where students can come in and their

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Speaker 12: junior year and their senior year and just take a

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Speaker 12: hodgepodge of classes. So they'll take a welding class, a

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Speaker 12: machining class, a basic electrical class, an auto class, you know,

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Speaker 12: and just kind of get a heating and air conditioning

494
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Speaker 12: class and they just get a feel for you know,

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Speaker 12: it's one class in each of these areas. All the

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Speaker 12: classes would count towards either core or electives if they

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Speaker 12: chose any of the technical classes, so they're not wasted,

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Speaker 12: but they can actually come over and work directly.

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Speaker 5: With That was so popular in the high schools.

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Speaker 12: That we've actually expanded that now and we have a

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Speaker 12: dedicated pathway for under employed folks. So when we're talking

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Speaker 12: to twenty five, twenty six thirty year old who's working

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Speaker 12: two or three jobs to make ends meet, you know,

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Speaker 12: just because they're dead end jobs. Retail not the bad thing,

505
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Speaker 12: but they're just really struggling and you know, hey, but

506
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Speaker 12: I think I think I want to be you know,

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Speaker 12: so we give them an opportunity to come in, take

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Speaker 12: a couple of classes, and again get there see if

509
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Speaker 12: you know, because let's face it, you don't want to

510
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Speaker 12: come in and find out that you're you don't have

511
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Speaker 12: technical skills, or that you're not interested, or that it's

512
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Speaker 12: not fun for you, and then this is your career

513
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Speaker 12: path for the rest of your life. So we've had

514
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Speaker 12: to open up a lot of those avenues because people

515
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Speaker 12: don't get a chance.

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Speaker 5: To expand and explore those type of things.

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Speaker 12: And it's not like you can be you know, you

518
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Speaker 12: can't just walk into a manufacturing plant say I want

519
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Speaker 12: to play with your machines. That's not going to happen,

520
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Speaker 12: so you'd probably be arrested and or shot.

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Speaker 10: Ye.

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Speaker 2: So but this is cool because so a person could

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Speaker 2: come in take on. By the way, we're speaking with

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Speaker 2: Sam Collier. He is the dean of Manufacturing and Transporation

525
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Speaker 2: Technology Gateway Community and Technical College. So they could actually

526
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Speaker 2: try heating, air conditioning, electrical mechanic, diesel mechanic, and so on,

527
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Speaker 2: just to kind of get a feel for what made

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Speaker 2: what made.

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Speaker 3: Interest them and so exactly.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's back up a little bit because

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Speaker 2: I'm going to skip right back to the first question

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask, but we got there was,

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Speaker 2: you know, so many things to talk about to get

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Speaker 2: to that. But since we last spoke, your duties have expanded,

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Speaker 2: and so have the programs expanded as far as what's

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Speaker 2: available at Gateway Community College and Technical.

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Speaker 12: That is correct, yes, So you know, obviously the great

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Speaker 12: news is we're seeing you know, well, the college in

539
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Speaker 12: and of itself. Every year, the last four semesters, I

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Speaker 12: believe we've seen growth, and a lot of that is

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Speaker 12: in the trades. So I've had to add on more instructors,

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Speaker 12: both full time and a lot of part time. And

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Speaker 12: that's an interesting endeavor because you know, you first of all,

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Speaker 12: they're working, and many of them are working swing shifts

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Speaker 12: and things like that. So we've got to work with

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Speaker 12: their schedules. They've already got an eight to five job,

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Speaker 12: or at least a forty hour a week job. They've

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Speaker 12: got families. But then they've also it's not like they're

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Speaker 12: just coming in and teaching. I'm not saying, hey, come

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Speaker 12: in and lecture to these students for an hour and

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Speaker 12: go home. They've got to come in and actually teach

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Speaker 12: the technical thing. So my welding part time instructor comes

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Speaker 12: in and teaches a Saturday morning class from eight to one.

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Speaker 12: He's a welder and he knows welding, but he's actually

555
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Speaker 12: got to come in and make sure he understands the

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Speaker 12: equipment and can you you know, know where everything is

557
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Speaker 12: so he doesn't look silly when a student says, hey,

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Speaker 12: I need a grinder. Oh, that'd be a great tool

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Speaker 12: to have. I bet it's here somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: They need to learn, you know.

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Speaker 12: They actually need to learn how where things are at,

563
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Speaker 12: how we run our shop. Our rules are rags, so

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Speaker 12: that come Monday when our students come back in, everything's

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Speaker 12: back where it belongs.

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Speaker 5: So it really is a big expansion.

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Speaker 12: Also because the trades are so shorthanded, so I'm academic everything.

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Speaker 12: I my life is around classes that are based on college.

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Speaker 12: But we have what we call Workforce, and workforce works

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Speaker 12: directly with industry and so they can do a customized class.

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Speaker 12: I'm set to very set boundaries. This class is this long,

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Speaker 12: and this is what you're going to teach in it.

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Speaker 12: But Workforce can come in and say we're going to

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Speaker 12: teach a basic business course or a technical course, or

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Speaker 12: a welding course or.

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Speaker 5: And it can be very specific.

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Speaker 12: I need students to learn how to weld pipe and

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Speaker 12: that's it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well that's going to be so. But when we're

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Speaker 5: talking with companies.

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Speaker 12: That group is not necessarily a subject matter.

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Speaker 5: Expert in every area.

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Speaker 12: So I spend a lot of my time now not

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Speaker 12: a lot, some of my time actually working with workforce

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Speaker 12: and with these companies talking over what is it that

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Speaker 12: they actually need because they think they need you know,

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Speaker 12: I need more people to do. But then when you

588
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Speaker 12: start having the conversations with them, oh okay, it becomes

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Speaker 12: broader or more narrow, or they want more or they

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Speaker 12: think that that has to be college bound, and like, no,

591
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Speaker 12: you come in, take three hour class, learn to do X.

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Speaker 12: So I come in as the primary subject matter expert, although.

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Speaker 5: I'm in no way, shape or form a subject maunter

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Speaker 5: expert in a lot of these areas, but I know enough.

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Speaker 2: O coumpaths are fairly open to this, which is a

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Speaker 2: lot different than some of the stuff that I've seen

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Speaker 2: from people that I've talked with. And we'll pick this

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Speaker 2: up on the other side of the break, I'm speaking

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Speaker 2: with Sam Collier. He is the dean of Manufacturing and

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Speaker 2: Transportation Technology, Gateway Community and Technical College. I'm Kevin Gordon,

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Speaker 2: Continue our tent with Sam Collier, Deano Manufacturing and Transportation Technology,

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Speaker 2: Gateway Community and Technical College. When we stepped out, we

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Speaker 2: were talking about I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 2: say train corporations, but being an ambassador with those corporations

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Speaker 2: that to fill the needs that they have. They may

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Speaker 2: come to you and say that they need, you know,

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Speaker 2: five different skills, but you can give them somebody with

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Speaker 2: three and we'll explain the process there. Because this is

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Speaker 2: kind of unlike what I'm seeing in some of the

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Speaker 2: corporate rule of other corporations and some of the other jobs,

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Speaker 2: where if somebody doesn't meet all those criteria, their their

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Speaker 2: resume gets thrown in the waste basket. In a lot

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Speaker 2: of instances, I think it's a disservice not only to

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Speaker 2: the company, but to the employee as well.

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Speaker 5: And Kevin, I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 12: And yeah, first of all, finding that unicorn that has

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Speaker 12: all those five anymore, especially if it's a company that

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Speaker 12: has something specialized, you know, it's just not going to

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Speaker 12: happen because again, you used to steal somebody from another company,

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Speaker 12: But the pay rates are at a point and companies

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Speaker 12: know they can't go get somebody else, so they're willing

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Speaker 12: to step up to keep that person they have. So

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Speaker 12: the days of trading off and rotating through a how

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Speaker 12: won't say they're gone, but they're definitely.

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Speaker 5: Much less than they used to be.

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Speaker 12: So so, yeah, we do have these you know, have

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Speaker 12: to have these conversations with companies and we say, okay,

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Speaker 12: you know what, I got students here that have you're

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Speaker 12: asking for these five?

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Speaker 5: I got three. But they're a good student.

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Speaker 12: They've shown up for class every day, They've put forth

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Speaker 12: a lot of effort, they show great initiative, they have

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Speaker 12: people skills. Are you willing to work with them and

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Speaker 12: train them? And then the training side can be multiple things.

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Speaker 12: They mentorship where they put them with somebody in the company,

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Speaker 12: and a lot of companies that we're working with are

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Speaker 12: seeing that that's unnecessary evil I'm just going to have

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Speaker 12: to pay somebody to not be quite as profitable because

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Speaker 12: they're in a training mode. Or do they come back

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Speaker 12: to Gateway as I was mentioning before the break and

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Speaker 12: or with a workforce group like ours and design a

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Speaker 12: very specialized class for those three or five people that

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Speaker 12: they just hired to give them those skills that they

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Speaker 12: didn't have.

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Speaker 5: So, okay, come work for the company.

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Speaker 12: You stay with me for three six months, you show

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Speaker 12: up for work every day, and then I'm going to

656
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Speaker 12: pay for this training that will help you and help

657
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 12: me the company. And you know, now you're you know

658
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 12: you've actually developed from within. The students wins, the company wins.

659
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 12: The student feels like the company's investing in them, so

660
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 12: they're you know, they're more likely to hang around. So

661
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 12: it's a it's a win for everybody.

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Speaker 2: And Gawayne and Gateway has gone to bat for these

663
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Speaker 2: people to make sure that they get employed. It's not

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Speaker 2: just hey, exactly, pay your fee, get a grade, and

665
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Speaker 2: good luck.

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Speaker 12: Well exactly, yeah, my god, I always you know, that's

667
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Speaker 12: one of those things that we know when we're looking

668
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Speaker 12: at programs and making sure that programs are viable, that

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Speaker 12: is very important that there is first of all, career

670
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Speaker 12: opportunnities that are good career opportunities.

671
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Speaker 5: And we're not going to put you.

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Speaker 12: Into a into a job that is fading away or

673
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 12: that AI is taking over. That's not fair to our students.

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Speaker 12: So are their career opportunities and are there companies that

675
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 12: are willing to help, because again, you're just not going

676
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 12: to find a ten year veteran sitting around looking for

677
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Speaker 12: these jobs anymore.

678
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Speaker 5: Well ly, in the.

679
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Speaker 2: Economy, we have this no hire, no fire policy because

680
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: of you know, people kind of holding back whether they're

681
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Speaker 2: going to expand or not, and of course economic issues

682
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Speaker 2: out there, which you know, I think are being overplayed

683
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Speaker 2: by them.

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Speaker 3: We won't go into that.

685
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I think we've got a very strong economy.

686
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Speaker 2: It's just that I think that a lot of companies

687
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Speaker 2: are kind of waiting on the in the wings to

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Speaker 2: possibly expand. But which is a good segue here, because

689
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Speaker 2: again we talked about the fact that there you've expanded

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Speaker 2: programs there, and those are more programs than what you

691
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Speaker 2: originally well what we what you had the last time

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Speaker 2: we spoke. So let's talk a little bit about that

693
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Speaker 2: as well. Because again, as I've said before, as I

694
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Speaker 2: mentioned in the previous segment, being at that tech schools rodeo,

695
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: the trades have become cool again, not that they were.

696
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Speaker 2: Actually they've always been cool. They were cool before cool

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Speaker 2: was cool, you know, And so it's always been a necessity,

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Speaker 2: and people are realizing that, yes, this is a necessity

699
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Speaker 2: and it's a cool possibility of a good career path.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about some of the expanded programs. And

701
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, this isn't like just sitting there saying hey,

702
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Speaker 2: let's start this program here, let's start teaching this today

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Speaker 2: and then roll the red carpet.

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Speaker 12: Out you're exactly right, and I'll be honest. When Gateway

705
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 12: was a little bitty college many many years ago, when

706
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 12: I started, it was kind of like that a company

707
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 12: and say, hey, we think the world needs are our

708
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Speaker 12: area needs X, and we'd go out and we'd try

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Speaker 12: and set up whatever that was, and then we'd find

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Speaker 12: out that there's two companies that actually need three people,

711
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Speaker 12: and we just spent a lot of time and money

712
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Speaker 12: on an area that's already now flooded. So you know,

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Speaker 12: there are companies that actually do this research the nationally

714
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Speaker 12: and then narrow it down to areas, and we were Gatway,

715
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 12: like many colleges, works with those groups. We review that information,

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Speaker 12: we take that information back to our companies and we

717
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Speaker 12: have conversations with them and say, you know.

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Speaker 5: Hey, statistically it says right.

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Speaker 12: Here that we're going to need people doing this and

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Speaker 12: I'll use So it's actually a crossover. We have a

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Speaker 12: we've had a computer information technology program since before I started,

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Speaker 12: but now we have a computer engineering technology program, which

723
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Speaker 12: is a crossover between computers, the normal computer classes, and electronics.

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Speaker 5: So this person is teaching students.

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Speaker 12: You know, computers is kind of that replaced software update.

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Speaker 12: Things keep up the kind of thing. But this person

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Speaker 12: is actually looking more in more or in depth into

728
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Speaker 12: the electronics side of it, the repair of a board,

729
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Speaker 12: you know, getting more into the electronics side of it,

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Speaker 12: the manufacturing side of it, you know, the actual manufacturing

731
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Speaker 12: of components. You know, computers don't just build themselves yet,

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Speaker 12: so somebody's actually got to design them and engineer them

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Speaker 12: up and make sure that they're working right and then

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Speaker 12: repair them. So that's one of the areas that's actually

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Speaker 12: I'm not fully in charge of it there. It's a

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Speaker 12: crossover between two divisions, but we looked at a lot

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Speaker 12: of you know, did a lot of research again, went

738
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Speaker 12: and talked to the companies. They're like, yeah, that's what

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Speaker 12: I've been talking about, that's what I've been asking for.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, well, you didn't say that, you know so.

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Speaker 2: And which is interesting in that area because of the

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Speaker 2: technology changing and by the way, we're speaking with Sam

743
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Speaker 2: Collier of Manufacturing Transportation Technology at Gateway Community and Technical College,

744
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Speaker 2: that technology is changing. It doesn't really do what he could.

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think of a certain technology or

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Speaker 2: a certain computer from ten to fifteen years ago doesn't

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Speaker 2: help to know how to repair that when you've got

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Speaker 2: the new computers that are out there. I mean, you've

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Speaker 2: got to have exactly the current technology so that they're

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Speaker 2: trained on what is going to be a profitable or

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Speaker 2: a useful skill.

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Speaker 12: Right and you know, and again we'll go back to

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Speaker 12: manufacturing world just because that's one of the big ones

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Speaker 12: in Northern Kentucky. A lot of the machinery now, you know,

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Speaker 12: you go back fifteen years ago, you had a whole

756
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Speaker 12: bunch of mechanical.

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Speaker 5: Failures belt drives and things like that. But now it

758
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Speaker 5: is computerized.

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Speaker 12: It's you know, programmable logic control issues, it is electronic issues,

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Speaker 12: it's computer software issues, it's that are causing plants headaches.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, you've still got the maintenance of the line

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Speaker 12: and all of the machinery, but you've also now got

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Speaker 12: the maintenance and repair of all of this computerized equipment,

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Speaker 12: you know, and automation and all of that stuff that

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Speaker 12: there wasn't there wasn't a problem. You know, even pre

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Speaker 12: COVID was less of a problem. COVID really accelerated companies

767
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Speaker 12: going that route.

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Speaker 5: Because they didn't have a choice. They couldn't have people

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Speaker 5: on the floor. So yes, it really is a big

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Speaker 5: deal that you continue to do.

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Speaker 12: That research and you continue to look at Allied health

772
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Speaker 12: is another area where we've added some programs. Again, thank goodness,

773
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Speaker 12: not mine. You do not want me dealing with allied health.

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Speaker 12: But but you know, we've added several different pathways and

775
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 12: there's they're just minor changes in you know, to give

776
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Speaker 12: students slightly different training depending.

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Speaker 5: On where they're going.

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Speaker 12: And and that's part of the job of the college

779
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Speaker 12: is to look at that and then talk to your

780
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Speaker 12: industry and say does this make sense. If they look

781
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Speaker 12: at you like you you've got three heads, then okay,

782
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 12: probably not. But if they say, yeah, that's what I'm

783
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Speaker 12: talking about, then that's That's the way We've got to

784
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 12: continue to grow and build. And I think we're going

785
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Speaker 12: to continue to see that, you know, even within programs

786
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Speaker 12: our Manufacturing Engineering Technology Program, which is a small program

787
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Speaker 12: built inside of the manufacturing program more for students that

788
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Speaker 12: want to get into middle management or go into the

789
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Speaker 12: side of plant redesign or five S lean engineering type

790
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 12: of technologies, you know, that side of it rather than

791
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Speaker 12: the plant side. More. I'm going to work with companies

792
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Speaker 12: to set up new plants or like the automotive industry

793
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 12: where hey, guess what, Every year, a new car line

794
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Speaker 12: comes out, so the plant has to totally be redesigned.

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Speaker 2: We've only got about a little over a minute, actually

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Speaker 2: about thirty seconds here to continue this. Some of these courses,

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Speaker 2: I'm going down the list here, air conditioning technology, apprenticeship programs,

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Speaker 2: Associate in Arts, business administration, automotive technology, all kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: I would suggest people go to this website, which again

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Speaker 2: is Gateway.

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Speaker 3: You want to give the website out.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's Gateway dot KCT, which is Kentucky Community Technical

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Speaker 12: College System dot edu.

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Speaker 2: Now, a lot of these courses, what is the length

805
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Speaker 2: of these? How long does it take to go through

806
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Speaker 2: some of these? I guess the shortest of the longest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the longest. I'll go backwards.

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Speaker 12: Most of our programs are set up for a full time.

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Speaker 5: Student to finish a degree in two years.

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Speaker 12: But embedded in most at least the technical programs are

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Speaker 12: short term certificates so I can come in and take

812
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Speaker 12: just a very and we try and make those certificates

813
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Speaker 12: industry ready so that you are at least getting enough

814
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Speaker 12: skill to be employable. And that's that's the goal of

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Speaker 12: those and some of those are as short as one

816
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Speaker 12: semester sixteen weeks, you actually get a job.

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Speaker 2: So if anybody is interested, if anybody's working third shift

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Speaker 2: and says, you know, I got a dead end job here,

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Speaker 2: I want to try something different, this is the opportunity

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Speaker 2: for you and an area a career path that you

821
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Speaker 2: should pursue. And again, the website is Gateway dot.

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Speaker 5: KCTCS dot edu.

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Speaker 2: All right, enjoyed the conversation, Sam, Folks. Just a wealth

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Speaker 2: of knowledge here and I would very much suggest the

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Speaker 2: trades are cool again. Get on board. I'm Kevin Gordon.

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