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Speaker 1: Welcome Home.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dean Sharp, the house whisper, custom home builder, custom

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Speaker 3: home designer, and your guide to better understand that place

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Speaker 3: where you live today. On the show, it's your calls.

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Speaker 3: The number to reach me eight three three two. Ask

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Speaker 3: whatever as you scratch in your head about your home design, construction,

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Speaker 3: DIY inside, outside, I got you. We'll put our heads

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Speaker 3: together and get it figured out. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk to Ginger. Ginger Welcome Home.

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Speaker 4: I have a question about the attic area in my home.

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Speaker 4: My home has a little entry to the attic in

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Speaker 4: the area between the two front bedrooms. There's a little

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Speaker 4: opening there, and I have to get a lat to

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Speaker 4: climb up and get up into the attic through that section.

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Speaker 4: The section that is connected to the kitchen area is

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Speaker 4: all floored and I can put things up there and

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Speaker 4: store things there. But the whole other section of the house,

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Speaker 4: the entire complete attic area is just covered with the

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Speaker 4: foam insulation thing. And when I have made my way

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Speaker 4: up into that little opening that's in the hallway between

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Speaker 4: the bedrooms. It's dark and there's nothing but foam insulation,

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Speaker 4: and I was wondering if it's okay for me to

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Speaker 4: try and put down flooring up there so that I

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Speaker 4: could get up there and do something with the space

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Speaker 4: without having to have a license or feeds that I

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Speaker 4: have to pay with the city and things like that. Also,

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Speaker 4: at one point in time, I had seen these ingenious

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Speaker 4: little slats that are like roll They're like rolls that

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Speaker 4: you roll out and they're slat that end up being

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Speaker 4: a floor. And I don't know if they're still around anywhere,

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Speaker 4: but if they are, I wondered if you were aware

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Speaker 4: of them and if that would be something I could do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So a lot of pack a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: packed into those questions there. I am going to disappoint

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Speaker 3: you on on a couple of levels, but let me

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Speaker 3: start with a positive one. Yeah, I've seen those slats.

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Speaker 3: Those are great. Uh, they're basically roll mats. They're they're

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Speaker 3: rigid roll mats and they can come they can come

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Speaker 3: in handy in a lot of situations. Okay, So nothing

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Speaker 3: wrong with them. There's they're out there around you can

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Speaker 3: probably find them on Amazon these days or other places

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Speaker 3: like that. Here's the thing, Ginger. Everybody wants to utilize

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Speaker 3: as much attic space as possible these days for storage

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I totally totally understand that. However, our homes and where

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Speaker 3: is it that you live, Ginger out and see me Valley. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so our homes in southern California, buy and large are

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Speaker 3: not designed for addicts to be a part. I mentioned

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Speaker 3: this earlier in the show, to be a part of

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Speaker 3: the conditioned air space of the house. That means that insulation,

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Speaker 3: a nice thick layer of insulation fiberglass or cellulose insulation,

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Speaker 3: whether it's rolled bats or whether it's blown in, but

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Speaker 3: a nice thick layer equivalent to R thirty for energy

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Speaker 3: savings and all of that air conditioning expanse, heating expense

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Speaker 3: and the like your general comfort in the home are

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Speaker 3: thirty is what we're shooting for in the attic. And

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Speaker 3: that's thick. That's thick stuff. When people go up into

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Speaker 3: their attics and make platforms, in other words, create an

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Speaker 3: area of flooring. I don't have any big issue with that, okay,

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Speaker 3: but just got to understand every square foot of flooring

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Speaker 3: that you create up in your attic space for storage,

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Speaker 3: you are squishing down and minimizing, and you're reducing your

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Speaker 3: attic insulation below the line of what where the bar

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Speaker 3: should be set. Okay, because if you've got I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: guess in SeeMe Valley tracked home in SeeMe Valley, if

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Speaker 3: we've got two by six ceiling joists running across the room,

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Speaker 3: six inches or five and a half inches of space

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Speaker 3: for insulation is not enough to reach that R thirty marker.

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Speaker 3: So if we've squished it down because we've put plywood

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Speaker 3: up there for storage, now you know, a few square feet, fine,

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Speaker 3: you know who's going to know the difference. You probably

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Speaker 3: won't notice the difference. But the more you do that

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Speaker 3: up in your attic, the more of that area that

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Speaker 3: you squish down and minimize that insulation, than the more

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Speaker 3: comes to the amount of storage up there. Some people

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Speaker 3: even say, well, my roof is high enough, I could

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Speaker 3: make a room up there. Well, that's debatable because if

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Speaker 3: it was never designed to have human habitation up in there.

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Speaker 3: Then there's also a very distinct chance that the ceiling

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Speaker 3: joists themselves are not floor joist rated. They're just ceiling

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Speaker 3: joist rated. They're not designed to support a tremendous amount

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Speaker 3: answer to the question is a qualified Sure, you could

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Speaker 3: add a little bit of storage area up in an attic,

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Speaker 3: but no, that every time you do it, we are

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Speaker 3: compromising the insulation of the house. And that most southern

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Speaker 3: California single story homes, well it's second story homes too,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter. Most attics in southern California are

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Speaker 3: not designed to be load bearing in any significant sense,

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Speaker 3: or insulation compromised attic space when you put a platform

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Speaker 3: up there. So that's my concern. My concern about accessing

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Speaker 3: the attic in that way is that we run the

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Speaker 3: risk of messing up the thermal continuity of the house.

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Speaker 3: And you can overload an attic, and that's not a

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Speaker 3: good thing as well. Now, can it be done? Of course,

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Speaker 3: I was just saying before the break. Anything can be

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Speaker 3: done if you are so committed to storage in a

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Speaker 3: certain area of your attic and you want to preserve

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Speaker 3: the insulated quality, then you could fill that area underneath

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Speaker 3: the platform with rigid insulation. It's going to be more expensive,

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Speaker 3: rigid insulation that compensates for the loss of the loft

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Speaker 3: of the fluffy stuff. Uh, basically, but that's more expensive,

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Speaker 3: and it's very intentional. And if we're really starting to

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Speaker 3: put lots of load up there, then we need to

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Speaker 3: talk to an engineer about whether the kind of stuff

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Speaker 3: we want to store up there is actually going to

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Speaker 3: be well supported by the house, or if it's going

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Speaker 3: to put too much of a load on those poor

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Speaker 3: little ceiling. Joyce, whose job originally was just to hold

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Speaker 3: some insulation and hold up the drywall on the lid

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Speaker 3: of the ceiling. That's the best I can tell you,

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Speaker 3: side unseen Ginger. So think those things through and then

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Speaker 3: make decisions accordingly. And thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 3: All right, more great stuff on the way. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. Dean Sharp,

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Speaker 3: the house Whisper here to help you take your home

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Speaker 3: to the next level. It's an all calls show today.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back to the phones. Hey Terry, welcome home. Hey,

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Speaker 3: how you doing my friend, How can I help you?

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Speaker 1: I can hear your driving, but I can hear you

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Speaker 1: just find okay.

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Speaker 5: I have a mid fifty pouse from the south, say

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Speaker 5: that have some decorative fation boards on the front. I

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Speaker 5: need to reroof someday. My pain is still okay, but

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Speaker 5: the faci boards just need to be replaced, so ill

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Speaker 5: don The best time to replace them would be when

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Speaker 5: I remoof. But I've tried to fill them in, you know,

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Speaker 5: with body fuddy or whatever, and they need to be replaced.

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Speaker 5: Is it worth trying to replace them now or waiting

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Speaker 5: until I either reroot or repaint.

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Speaker 3: It all depends on how far away the reroofing is.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're planning on reroofing and you've got

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Speaker 3: that in the schedule, then I would replace the facier

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Speaker 3: boards immediately before your reroof maybe right in the reroofing

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Speaker 3: process ideally, because reroofing means pulling off all the existing shingles.

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Speaker 3: We're going to pull off the vapor barrier and the

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Speaker 3: actual layer underneath the shingles that is drawing in the roof.

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Speaker 3: And that also means pulling off the edge metal around

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Speaker 3: and getting brand new edge medal. And it's the edge

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Speaker 3: metal that is over there hanging over the edge of

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Speaker 3: your facier board, that's partially occluding the top of the

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Speaker 3: facier board right now. Ideally, in a perfect world, you

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Speaker 3: work it out with your roofer so that, hey, when

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Speaker 3: you guys do the tear off and strip everything down,

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Speaker 3: I want to replace the facier boards right then and

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Speaker 3: there you guys can finish up the rest of the job.

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Speaker 3: If you're not working with a roofer who will work

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Speaker 3: with you on that, you probably have the wrong roofer,

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Speaker 3: not a person that wants to go out of their

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Speaker 3: way to help you get the best possible roof finished up.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to have them pre painted or get

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Speaker 3: the painter involved. You just have to have those facial

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Speaker 3: boards pre primed so that the part that gets shoved

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Speaker 3: up under and goes under the edge metal is protected

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Speaker 3: and sealed at some level. You could, if again the

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Speaker 3: roofer is down for this, have them put on and painted,

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Speaker 3: and then the rioffer can come back and finish the

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Speaker 3: whole job. Ideally, that's the way I'd like to see

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Speaker 3: it happen. Now here's the point. Can facier boards be

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Speaker 3: replaced right now and just leave the roof on for

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Speaker 3: the next six month, of course they can, and so

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Speaker 3: if that works better for you timing wise, then do

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Speaker 3: it that way. Go get them fixed up and replaced

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Speaker 3: shove it back underneath that edge metal. That is usually

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Speaker 3: the biggest mistake that people make. They put facier boards

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Speaker 3: up raw and then you know, roofing edge metal covers

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Speaker 3: never gets painted. And so even though it looks all

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Speaker 3: painted up when you look underneath, the fact is there

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Speaker 3: we love to at least pre prime the facier boards

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Speaker 3: with a good, good exterior primer before we slap them

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Speaker 3: up and cover up sections of them, so that the

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Speaker 3: does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: Yeh?

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Speaker 3: All right, So that's up and we just lost them. Okay, Terry,

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Speaker 3: good luck on that Herman, welcome home.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, I got a question.

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Speaker 4: I want to build a retaining wall in my backyard

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Speaker 4: by myself.

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Speaker 7: How can I go about that.

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Speaker 3: Retaining wall in your backyard by yourself? It all depends

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Speaker 3: on what you want the wall to look like. If

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Speaker 3: want it out of cinder block, you want to cover

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Speaker 3: it with stucco or plaster or something like that. But

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Speaker 3: I can tell you this. The general rule is this

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Speaker 3: for most municipalities. And I say this as a qualifier.

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Speaker 3: I say most municipalities, even though it's pretty much all

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Speaker 3: there are, depending on the size of your lot, the location,

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Speaker 3: and the soil conditions. Sometimes there are deviations of this,

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Speaker 3: but for most municipalities, any retaining quote unquo well retaining

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Speaker 3: wall that is holding back less than three feet of

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Speaker 3: soil you can do without a permit and without engineering.

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Speaker 3: The easiest way to go about doing that is to

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Speaker 3: head on down to the building supply, whether you've got

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Speaker 3: a stone yard near you, a home depot, a low's,

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Speaker 3: a lumber yard, and get those interlocking, stacked, racked back

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Speaker 3: retaining wall blocks. There's several different versions, but they lock

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Speaker 3: If you have special soil conditions on your property and

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Speaker 3: there you go in a nutshell. Really good question. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Dean Sharp the House whisper here to remind you that

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Speaker 3: design matters most. We've been taking your calls today, we

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Speaker 3: the phones. Hey, Gary, welcome home. Hi Deen, there you are, sir.

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Speaker 3: How can I help you?

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Speaker 2: I just inherited a seventy five year old house from

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Speaker 2: my mom, and I noticed that there's some TERMI droppings around,

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Speaker 2: and when I look for tags, I find that the

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Speaker 2: last time it was fumigated was about nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: So the tags say that they use something called Viking,

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Speaker 2: and I'm wondering is that the gold standard still or

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Speaker 2: is there something better these days? And what do I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've come a long way now. I'm not familiar

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Speaker 3: but I can tell you this, Gary, We've come such

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Speaker 3: a lot of options these days. My encouragement to you

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Speaker 3: you'd be surprised how few of those companies are out there,

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Speaker 3: everybody does. They'll do a little spot treatment here or there,

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Speaker 3: but if anything is beyond what they're comfortable with, then

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Speaker 3: they'll just say, tent the house. And so you tend

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Speaker 3: out of it, and it gets fully tinted and it's

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Speaker 3: going to be that way for a few days, and

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Speaker 3: it's you know, if you're not living in the house,

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Speaker 2: Such generally empty. So I'm not opposed to having it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, understood, So, but I want you to know that

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a cost involved in that, obviously, and

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Speaker 3: it may or may not be justified. So the point

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Speaker 3: is this, just because you find some droppings here and there,

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that it is an entire whole house infestation.

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Speaker 3: You need to get conscientious eyes on and that's why

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Speaker 3: I say I want you to go with a pest

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Speaker 3: than just what we call the nuclear option, which is

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Speaker 3: just tent the house and it's gone, because we've come

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Speaker 3: a long way. We can electrocute termites in walls. Shockingly, shockingly,

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Speaker 3: I did not mean to say that that way. There's

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Speaker 3: forms of spot treatment that are highly highly effective that

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Speaker 3: don't require tentting the house. And there's heat treating a

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Speaker 3: whole house heat treatment as opposed to tinting, just because

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Speaker 3: it leaves no chemical residue, no harmful things behind. Heat

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Speaker 3: sealing up the whole house using heaters and fans to

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Speaker 3: bring the internal temperature of the house up to about

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty degrees. They

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Speaker 3: hold it there for a few hours. That is lethal

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Speaker 3: to every termite everywhere inside the place. And it doesn't

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Speaker 3: require a tent. It's done. It starts at the beginning

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Speaker 3: of the day, early in the morning, and it's done

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Speaker 3: back in the house by that evening. No chemical residue,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to pull stuff out, and you know,

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Speaker 3: and I know the house is relatively empty, but just

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Speaker 3: so you know, it doesn't leave behind any toxicity. It's

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Speaker 3: just a heat treatment, massively popular, yeah treatment. So my

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Speaker 3: biggest recommendation, Gary, I'm up against a break here. My

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Speaker 3: biggest recommendation is to find the right company. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course, I'm going to tell you that Eco La.

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Speaker 3: They are my preferred pest control company for southern California

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Speaker 3: precisely because they have a full arsenal and I don't

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Speaker 3: know of a pest control company that's more conscientious when

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Speaker 3: it comes to approaching the house. They simply don't want

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Speaker 3: and so that's the guarantee. They're going to get the

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Speaker 3: so talk to them. Give them a call, Eco LA

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Speaker 3: E CEO LA, give them a call and you know,

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Speaker 3: have them consult with you about the termite situation. How

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Speaker 3: the moral of the story for everybody who's listening is

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Speaker 3: says got an infected splinter. There amputation no no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no. Let's find a conscientious doctor who gets to

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Speaker 1: That's the goal. Gary, thank you for your call. My

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Speaker 6: Sighting. You know, I'm one of these old houses and

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Speaker 6: fifties and it's it's on the relay system. I think

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Speaker 6: enough for me. But if I really sold it. I

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Speaker 6: in or whatever, is that like, does that make lots

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Speaker 6: of holes in the ceiling and the roof because I

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Speaker 6: have a really huge skylight and I don't want anything

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well okay, so what kind of what

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Speaker 1: What? What's what's your concern?

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Speaker 6: Just you know, you know, push the button on the wall,

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Speaker 6: I mean, instead of and just turn the light on

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Okay, so things aren't working that

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Speaker 6: No, uh uh, but I have the ones that are

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Speaker 6: plugged in the wall. They're working. But this is this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you. I got you.

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Speaker 3: So you know, there's a couple of different factors here.

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Speaker 3: Your house built in the fifties.

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Speaker 3: It depends on how the builder did it. If it

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Speaker 3: they might have run conduits in between all of the

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Speaker 3: those conduits have just open wires in them that can

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Speaker 3: be pulled out, replaced, and no holes anywhere in the house.

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Speaker 3: Chances are, though I'm just don't want to set you

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Speaker 3: standard sheathed cables what some people call Romex. That's just

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Speaker 3: electricians and builders to use, the only problem is that

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Speaker 3: replace them. And so if you're going to run new wiring, okay,

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Speaker 3: Electrical systems are durable. In other words, when they're done

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Speaker 3: So electrical is durable. But worst case scenario, let's say

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Speaker 3: There will be some holes, not big chasms, not large

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Speaker 3: some holes. Usually holes that are near when we're running

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Speaker 3: It's tight up in the and that's almost always on

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Speaker 3: making holes in the ceiling. But yes, a full on

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Speaker 3: some holes, not a lot, and nothing that is going to,

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Speaker 3: there's a way to do it without making many holes,

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Speaker 3: the key, all right, Monica, thank you for your call,

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Speaker 3: Good luck with that. Take that advice, trust me on

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Speaker 3: Dean Sharp, the house whisper. Dean Sharp, the house whisperer,

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Speaker 3: here to help you transform your ordinary house into an

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Speaker 3: extraordinary home. We're doing that today by taking your calls.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back to the phones, Tony, Welcome home.

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Speaker 6: Hi Dean.

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Speaker 7: We're doing a complete kitchen remodel with cabinets, floors, and appliances.

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Speaker 7: And my question is do the cabinets should those sit

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Speaker 7: on the sub floor or do we install all of

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Speaker 7: the wood floors first? And the part that seems the

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Speaker 7: most trickiest from what I've read, is how to handle

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Speaker 7: the dishwasher?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So it's a good question, really good questions.

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Speaker 3: And it depends. It depends. And I say that in

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Speaker 3: all sincerity because I don't know. Maybe maybe I would

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Speaker 3: say maybe seventy five percent of the time, typically we

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Speaker 3: will not install on top of the floors, on top

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Speaker 3: of the hardwood floor or the tile. Sometimes just purely

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Speaker 3: from the practicality that you know, why do you want

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Speaker 3: to run the expense of hardwood all the way underneath

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Speaker 3: cabinet kicks where it will never be seen again. So

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Speaker 3: simply to save square footage of cabinets. But there's also

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Speaker 3: another reason, I see, I'm sorry, safe square footage of

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Speaker 3: a flooring material. The other reason is that sometimes, quite

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Speaker 3: often floors are not perfectly level, and so your cabinet

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Speaker 3: installers will quite possibly have to shim up the rough

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Speaker 3: cabinet kicks. Now these days, rough cabinet kicks get shimmed

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Speaker 3: and then there is a finished kickplate that goes over it,

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Speaker 3: and then the shims are hidden and they meet the

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Speaker 3: floor very nicely. So but that's a consideration as well.

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Speaker 3: But I would say typically what we're aiming for is

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Speaker 3: to not run material underneath the cabinet kicks because it's unnecessary. Now,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the dishwasher, whatever the flooring is

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Speaker 3: in the room that we do run into because the

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Speaker 3: dishwasher is just an area of a void area. So we

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Speaker 3: go ahead and run that material into the dishwasher area

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Speaker 3: so that the dishwa washer doesn't get trapped behind flooring

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Speaker 3: material down in the recess there. And I know some

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Speaker 3: people are like, well, I don't know if I want

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Speaker 3: to run hardwood in there, because what if the dishwasher leaks.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you, if the dishwasher leaks and you've got

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Speaker 3: hardwood in your kitchen, it's going to go way beyond

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Speaker 3: just the wood that's directly underneath. It's going to affect

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Speaker 3: wood in the whole area there. So it's kind of

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Speaker 3: a moot point when it comes to that argument. I

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Speaker 3: just prefer the idea that we can easily slide the

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Speaker 3: dishwasher in and out for installation or service or what

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Speaker 3: have you. So my recommendation is typically save the money

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Speaker 3: on the extra flooring material. Now, occasionally there is a

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Speaker 3: situation where it's like, well, I don't want to put

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Speaker 3: the cabinets in yet because there's all this other stuff,

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Speaker 3: and if we have to set the cabinets then then

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Speaker 3: they're going to get in the way and they're going

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Speaker 3: to get beat up. So I'd rather have the flooring

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Speaker 3: go in without the cabinets. Well, you can ask your

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Speaker 3: cabinet manufacture or installer to put in rough kicks, just

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Speaker 3: the kicks themselves detached from the cabinet boxes, and that way,

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Speaker 3: once the kicks are in place, they determine the cabinet

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Speaker 3: set and then your flooring people can get in there

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Speaker 3: and lay all the flooring in the kitchen without the

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Speaker 3: cabinets in their way. That's only something that happens though,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to cabinets that have detachable kicks, where

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Speaker 3: the kicks are separate from the boxes themselves, and you

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Speaker 3: have to talk to your cabinet person about that. But typically, eh,

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't you recommend wasting material underneath the cabinet, Kate?

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Speaker 3: Does it matter?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: Not really, it's not really going to change the install much.

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Speaker 3: Always account for the height of the hardwood floor though,

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Speaker 3: so don't set yourself up for a thirty six inch

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Speaker 3: tall countertop then put in you know, five eighths or

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Speaker 3: three quarters of an inch of hardwood and find yourself

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Speaker 3: with shorter cabinets so the kicks have to be taller

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Speaker 3: if they're going to go in be for the hardwood.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the question, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Let's take a quick break and then back to

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