WEBVTT - ICONIC BY MISTAKE

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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 2>Look at these beautiful pearly whites.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just Googled Sean McVeigh chompers, and I'll show you.

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<v Speaker 1>You did? You put in chompers?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They are really fantastic. I don't think, are they, they

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<v Speaker 2>may be real.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I don't know. There's no way those are

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<v Speaker 1>real teeth. Okay, all right, well.

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<v Speaker 2>We can all drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Teeth aren't perfect like that, are they? Well, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>braces twice and my teeth are a disaster. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>wear your retainer? Thanks, Mom. What else is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Time for What's Happening. What we've been reporting to you

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<v Speaker 1>and brought you the coverage all morning long. Paramount has

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<v Speaker 1>reached a settlement in an antitrust lawsuit brought on by

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<v Speaker 1>California and other states. that will pave the way for

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<v Speaker 1>its merger with Warner Brothers Discovery. It was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a knife fight there towards the end with Paramount saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking out for jobs in California? Well, AG's office,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to leave California and take all the jobs

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and then you'll be really screwed. So it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like there is a reluctant working relationship that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go on now with the AG's office and this merger.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the details we know is that the Company

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<v Speaker 2>will make good on a promise to distribute 30 films

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<v Speaker 2>a year in theaters. And if they don't, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to pay $ 30 million for each film that

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<v Speaker 2>falls short of the goal. They also could be forced

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<v Speaker 2>to sell their stake in Miramax if they fail to

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<v Speaker 2>meet the target. There will also be agreements about a

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<v Speaker 2>potentially independent editorial board for CBS and CNN and staffing constraints,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that they will have a limit on the minimum

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<v Speaker 2>amount of staffers who can be working at those news organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom has now declared a state of emergency ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>what could be the strongest El Nino on record. The

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<v Speaker 1>office issued a statement this morning that state resources are

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<v Speaker 1>being mobilized before the potential winter storms and the impacts.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that this event, El Nino event, already breaking

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<v Speaker 1>records and they're expecting quite the doozy.

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<v Speaker 2>The strongest in recorded history.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Preparing roads, critical infrastructure, flood control.

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<v Speaker 2>Issues, flood reduction problems, sandbags, pumps, pre-positioning of other critical equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure if you are in an area that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be at risk for this, you already know,

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere near burn scars, low-lying areas. I think it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a bad idea to look at flood insurance because most

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<v Speaker 2>people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that with their homeowner's insurance. Is that right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Most homeowner's insurance doesn't cover floods.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But your policy, your mileage may vary. So ask your insurance... Broker.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You have a good voice for that.

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<v Speaker 1>You should get into pharmaceutical ads.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like the guy who does the side effects may

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<v Speaker 2>include death, nausea.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're taking NSAIDs for pain relief or SSRIs, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're pregnant, nursing, or may become pregnant. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>a pulse, this could kill you. Tepid eye movement is

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<v Speaker 2>not for you, but if you... Tepeza, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Tepeza. Oh, my God. Heartbreak for Cindy Crawford

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<v Speaker 1>and her family. Her son has died, 27 years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Presley Gerber was his name. Died at a rehab yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>They're believing it was an overdose. He also worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a model, made headlines in 2019 when he was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>for driving under the influence, stopped driving a Tesla in

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills about 4 a.m., sentenced to probation, a DUI program,

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<v Speaker 1>community service. He's been outspoken about struggles with substance abuse problems.

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<v Speaker 2>His sister, Kai Gerber, said that this is– Not a

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<v Speaker 2>statement about her death, but at least addressing some of

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<v Speaker 2>his death, rather addressing some of his past issues says

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<v Speaker 2>when something like this happens in the family, it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of levels anybody. And she said that she had been

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<v Speaker 2>proud of him for acknowledging his struggles in an Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>video in December, of course, was in rehab when he died.

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<v Speaker 2>An autopsy hasn't been completed. The exact cause and manner

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<v Speaker 2>of death remain unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentioned earlier and played some of the sound. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it, grab the podcast. The Clancy interview

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<v Speaker 1>on 60 Minutes. This is the ex-husband who says he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be starting a new family with his

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<v Speaker 1>new wife. Kind of talked about what went on in

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<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of that horror. The holdout juror apparently had

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<v Speaker 1>a fundraiser running for him. That's topped $ 350, 000.

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<v Speaker 3>Not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he need money for? Legal defense, allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great question. This is the Hunger Games timeline

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<v Speaker 2>that we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, where people just get money for whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get money for.

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<v Speaker 2>The best chance of getting out of whatever sad doldrum

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<v Speaker 2>that you exist in is being a victim of something

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<v Speaker 2>or at least proximate to other tragedies that allows you

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<v Speaker 2>to get enough notoriety that strangers will give you money

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>What a bizarre world. A helicopter crash in Yosemite while

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<v Speaker 1>fighting wildfires there. Two helicopter crew members were killed yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>while battling this wildfire in Yosemite. It was about 3 p.m.

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unknown what happened. The crash remains under investigation by

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<v Speaker 2>the NTSB and the FAA. Both crew members on board died.

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<v Speaker 2>The dome fires, what they were firing, it's burned more

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<v Speaker 2>than 3,000 acres since September 15th.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this morning while we were in the office kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talking through the disaster that was the Chargers game

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday afternoon, a bright ray of sunshine walked in the

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<v Speaker 1>office in the form of Elmer wearing his brand new

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<v Speaker 1>New York Giants sweatshirt that he procured off Amazon last week.

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<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa amazon oh there's the nfl pro shop my

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<v Speaker 1>bad wow he paid full price for that and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it it's a beautiful sweatshirt it looks great

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<v Speaker 1>on him the.

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<v Speaker 2>Nap of the fabric it just lays like a like

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<v Speaker 2>an expensive piece of clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple things going for what what sunlight is

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<v Speaker 1>provided uh number one that it fits and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>so good on elmer Number two, that Elmer did not

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to the NFL's till we basically forced him

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a team and he chose the New York giants.

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<v Speaker 1>And this happened maybe three weeks ago. Um, number three,

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<v Speaker 1>number three, um, Elmer did not know the giants were

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<v Speaker 1>playing tonight on Monday night football in Los Angeles. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of this added to just a perfect moment of aura. Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're here for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the kind of vibe that obviously he's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not even trying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's iconic by mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you would have told me that you've had

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<v Speaker 2>that sweatshirt for years, it fits you so nicely. You

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<v Speaker 2>wear it so well. You move with such confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm the New York Giants, I'm putting him on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of my pro shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get him a social media creator account. For the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Giants. Let's try to make some money off

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<v Speaker 2>Elmer today. Let's set up a GoFundMe, try to raise

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<v Speaker 2>$ 350, 000 for us because we know Elmer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yes. I like that. You are our Hunger Games

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<v Speaker 1>ticket out, Elmer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that? Being our meal ticket?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll ride your coattails and I'll create my

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<v Speaker 1>own avenue afterwards. Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like when people go on 90 Day Fiance just to- Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that makes us the euphoria cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We're making money off Elmer's body first.

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<v Speaker 2>You're definitely Jacob Elordi.

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<v Speaker 3>Me?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're Sydney Sweeney as we've established about 20 seconds ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I got, he's got, he's got the brain cells as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're happy that you're here. Uh, giants and Rams tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Giants Rams tonight. Uh, probably no Aaron Donald still.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the debut people have been waiting to see,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he's ready to go. Miles Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>is not playing, obviously, because he's on IR with that

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<v Speaker 1>surgery that he's going to have or has already had.

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<v Speaker 1>Had his nose done it. Is that good for me? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's real good for you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've been, we've been licking our wounds and

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<v Speaker 2>nursing our, uh, sadness over here, uh, as chargers fans,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Rams have also sort of, I think come

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<v Speaker 2>out a little bit less hot because.

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<v Speaker 1>The expectations for both of these teams was super bowl bound.

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<v Speaker 1>It was going to be an all LA super bowl

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike McDaniel and this explosive offense with the arm

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<v Speaker 1>of Justin Herbert. You've got these two monsters as your

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<v Speaker 1>edges for that Rams defensive line and nothing has materialized

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<v Speaker 1>on either one of those fronts. So at what point

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<v Speaker 1>do you really have to panic media? You blame the media.

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<v Speaker 1>I blame the media for all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go back and look and see what

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<v Speaker 2>the call she says about the super bowl predictions now,

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<v Speaker 2>because the.

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<v Speaker 1>Rams were basically, A shoe-in. Running away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the season began.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coming up next, we will get into Swamp Watch,

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<v Speaker 1>the latest coming out of Washington with the media being

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<v Speaker 1>banned from the White House. How's that going to play out?

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<v Speaker 1>A judge will decide. Or maybe the Constitution, probably.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Gary and Shannon On Demand from KFI AM640.

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<v Speaker 1>11.20 is time to get us caught up on what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>The real problem is that our leaders are dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>The other side never quits. Really dumb. I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how you drain the swamp. I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what can be and be unburdened by what has been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Americans have always been gullible. Act presidential. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political blunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether people voted for you or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all canonauts. AI remains a topic on the table

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, and we kind of didn't have time to

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<v Speaker 1>get to it today, but there was a great article

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<v Speaker 1>that I was reading this morning in the Washington Post. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>a little extinction update for you? A little extinction update,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a fun choose-your-own-adventure when it comes to AI extinction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, they, they talked about how the predictions were built,

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<v Speaker 1>why some researchers question why their forecasts at all. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they said that the, they, there was a pivotal moment

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<v Speaker 1>at 2015 gathering in Puerto Rico attended by Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>and other influential tech figures. and organizers wanted ai researchers

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<v Speaker 1>to take extinction risks seriously and ideas debated inside that

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<v Speaker 1>small group are now reaching the much wider audience than

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<v Speaker 1>10 years ago more than 10 they were like all

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<v Speaker 1>right let's let's sit down and think about this seriously

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<v Speaker 1>because once this thing takes off it's going to take off.

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<v Speaker 2>Based on what we know Even though there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of backlash against data centers and the alarm bells

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<v Speaker 2>about the potential AI apocalypse, most of the scenarios require

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to go right in a very specific way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of barriers to getting to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where there's disaster, and a lot of them do not

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<v Speaker 2>account for humans stepping in and stopping any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Rand tried to get into the mechanics of it. The

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<v Speaker 1>researchers there studied the extinction scenarios involving nuclear weapons, pathogens, geoengineering.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, they found enormous practical barriers. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't rule out the possibility, but like you said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many barriers. There are capabilities AI would need, like

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<v Speaker 1>access to physical systems, the ability to operate without any

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<v Speaker 1>human maintenance, right? That's something as well that's still very

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<v Speaker 1>much needed for AI. Yeah. They said that people would

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<v Speaker 1>likely have time to respond in all of those scenarios.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd have time to fight back against AI if we

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<v Speaker 1>saw that's where it was headed. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that it talked about was that AI doesn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to hate us. It doesn't need to hate people. It

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<v Speaker 1>just needs to have that goal, like we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>last week, of protect the natural world.

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<v Speaker 2>Make more paperclips and somehow that becomes... an affront to

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<v Speaker 2>the human civilization. So it just decides, well, my goal

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<v Speaker 2>is to make more paperclips and therefore the collateral damage

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<v Speaker 2>of everyone dying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not important.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how these things can be so

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<v Speaker 2>smart that they could do this kind of stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>then on their own, don't also realize that they need

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<v Speaker 2>humans to be of any value whatsoever good point to

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<v Speaker 2>me i think that the most concern is that there's

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<v Speaker 2>bad actors whether they're terrorist cells individual bad people um

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<v Speaker 2>or or even government organizations that are using it to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish some kind of nefarious goal right that seems more

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<v Speaker 2>likely than anything else because you got somebody who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to cause damage and then is able to use ai

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<v Speaker 2>to make that happen not that the thing itself is

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<v Speaker 2>just going to come up with the idea of i'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to kill everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump administration faces a lawsuit today based on Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>Truth Social post over the weekend about CNN, MSNOW, and

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<v Speaker 1>Politico being banned from having any sort of access to

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. Obviously, it's a First Amendment lawsuit, and

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<v Speaker 1>they did notify the government. They said, we're filing a

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit today to protect our First Amendment rights. and defend

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<v Speaker 1>the principle that government does not decide what the press

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<v Speaker 1>reports or publishes. He said that, Trump did, that this ban,

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<v Speaker 1>this barring of journalists, was not an assault on the

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<v Speaker 1>free press, but instead an assault on fake news. And

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed that this was a national security threat. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those... big, beautiful umbrellas you get to hold

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<v Speaker 1>up as the reign of just rights comes down. News

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<v Speaker 1>being fake.

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<v Speaker 2>Or even a national security threat means that the First

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment doesn't apply, unfortunately, to the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, that's the argument, right? Politico, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>did an article, did some polling about where voters stand

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to electability. about what voters look for

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<v Speaker 1>in candidates. According to the new results from the political poll,

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<v Speaker 1>they do show small preferences for candidates who are younger

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<v Speaker 1>and Christian. Isn't that interesting? Voters were most likely to

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<v Speaker 1>penalize transgender candidates in hypothetical matchups. Obviously, Democrats more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to support them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think this, again, is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where it's easy in Los Angeles and California, where

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<v Speaker 2>it's been one party rule for 50 years. to forget

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<v Speaker 2>that the national makeup of the sentiment of the country

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<v Speaker 2>is very different than what we experience walking around here

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<v Speaker 2>in Southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was surprised to that point about it saying

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<v Speaker 1>skewing younger. And as America realized that we're too old

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the leadership in Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have the sort of barnstormer social media

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<v Speaker 2>candidates like the Mamdani's and the AOC's and maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>to a greater extent back in the day, Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 2>who I think are appealing to people who are louder

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<v Speaker 2>and who are making more noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, and I also feel like, you know, that unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>the old guard does not seem to have a grasp

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<v Speaker 2>on the reality of the, of the problems that are

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<v Speaker 2>facing us. And especially when it comes to talking about

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<v Speaker 2>things like AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda Littman is co-founder of run for something. They recruit

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<v Speaker 1>candidates under the age of 40. Said when the group

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<v Speaker 1>started its work nearly a decade ago, younger people were

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<v Speaker 1>seen as risky bets electorally, but now it's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Voters are judging people one by one. They're hungry for

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<v Speaker 1>change and hungry for someone who didn't get us into

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<v Speaker 1>this mess. The poll found candidates over the age of

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<v Speaker 1>70 were nearly 10% less likely to be picked than

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<v Speaker 1>candidates under the age of 50.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you make dinner in your home?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For your girlfriend? I'm a big.

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<v Speaker 2>I love cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you cook more than she does?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably because of the schedules.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm usually home earlier. So do you find it to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of... Well... Some days it's easier to think

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<v Speaker 1>what's for dinner and ideas come to mind, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder, right? I think it's easier to be creative. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy for me. Just woman to woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Because, yeah, between us girls, I'm always like, ooh, is

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<v Speaker 2>she going to like it when she gets home?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the casserole too much because it's still warm outside,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is September?

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<v Speaker 2>I make sure that I have a beer ready for

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<v Speaker 2>her in the kitchen. In the recliner, the big game on.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. How was your day, hon? Oh, my gosh. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk to me. Perfect. Give me my beer. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next, we'll talk about what's for dinner, the question.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal explored the nightly burden of this question.

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<v Speaker 1>How much time we spend thinking about this question is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you are one of those people, you realize

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<v Speaker 1>I do spend a lot of time on that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>AM 640.

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<v Speaker 2>It is 1135. I don't know what the plan for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner is tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm, and I'm a little anxious about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it might be a, I think it might be

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<v Speaker 2>a Chick-fil-A night.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's something that is always something easy as just tacos.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. And you can just get the, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry's taco mix, you know, you don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>mess around with, with doing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking the way that I do, I have to really

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<v Speaker 2>try not to try hard not to make like Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>taco night.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause I, and I have done a lot of like covers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a chimichurri sauce or something. Well, that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be Brazilian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty easy. Well, that's what I'm saying. Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying I have to fancy it up. No, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do like the- You're saying you can't do Midwestern stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I introduced the chimichurri sauce to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know about you, so I won't.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like having covered a lot of cool local

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<v Speaker 2>taco places in Los Angeles, I have seen how they make-

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<v Speaker 2>Street tacos, you know? And so I try to emulate

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<v Speaker 2>that at home.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty easy. Just some cilantro and some onion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of that and throw like a little

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<v Speaker 1>carne asada.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty thing. Put a little lime on the

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<v Speaker 1>side there.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheese on the griddle.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like you know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really fun. And then you put the tortilla

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like a really good move.

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<v Speaker 1>Your next level.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like to do that kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>everything to me is a production. I was just going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you make a show out of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. It's a little mush. As soon as you

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<v Speaker 1>said griddle, I thought, no, no, no, no, no. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing here? Well, the pan.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. What do you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Just make the food. You don't need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>cooking show.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to. That's the only way that I can

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<v Speaker 2>be interested in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Rachel Ray recently? Oh, yeah. Not good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's happening there.

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<v Speaker 1>Not good. uh um yeah but let's not get i

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<v Speaker 1>mean you brought it up i did you're right i

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<v Speaker 1>just i was shocked when i saw that recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a thyroid issue i don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh deciding what to make for dinner is apparently a

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<v Speaker 1>causing us a lot of wasted time labor department data

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<v Speaker 1>now we can have the conversation all day long on

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<v Speaker 1>whether this is what the labor department should be doing

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently one of the things it is doing is

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<v Speaker 1>compiling data that shows americans spend an average of 43

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<v Speaker 1>minutes a day on food prep and cleanup Does that

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<v Speaker 1>include the time it takes to decide on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Food to prep?

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<v Speaker 1>It can't at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's up 34% since the early 2000s because I think

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to eat crap anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I've realized is I used to, 20

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<v Speaker 1>years ago or something, I used to love recipes I

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<v Speaker 1>found online. I used to find great stuff. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like online recipes are like Netflix when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to finding something good to watch. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff out there, but very rarely do you find

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe online where you're like, bingo baby this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect i gotta read through 5 000 words of the

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<v Speaker 2>backstory of like how you came up with this kid likes.

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<v Speaker 1>About this you got to get to the reviews right

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<v Speaker 1>away because people are honest in the reviews people are

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<v Speaker 1>like this recipe is effed and this is what you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do to it to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>No um all the substitutions that people are making for

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<v Speaker 2>things i mean there's there's very little sense going into

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this I know AI makes an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>amount of them now.

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<v Speaker 1>AI does great. AI, though, by the way, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is so... What is the word I'm looking for? Differential

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Like when you say, can I substitute an

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<v Speaker 1>orange for a football? AI's like, of course you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put some lemon on the football.

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<v Speaker 1>And toss it in. It's like, can I really substitute that?

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the substitutions that it says are okay... are not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea shannon yeah classic football citrus recipe

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<v Speaker 2>which yeah i mean it's nuts and i and i

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<v Speaker 2>think that they um you know this study specifically is

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a lot of the conversations about dinner with

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<v Speaker 2>families and kids and i think people feeling the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>especially if they're working to make food for their kids

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<v Speaker 2>some of the kids are gluten-free, I guess, allegedly. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the kids don't want to eat meat. There's other issues.

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<v Speaker 2>One mom says that the hardest part of having to

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<v Speaker 2>solve the same problem every single... Hardest part of the

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<v Speaker 2>problem is solving it every single day, whereas you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to always have to have this problem tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get paid to say this, but the two

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<v Speaker 1>words that I would just rely on wholeheartedly if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to make dinner and involving a whole family and

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<v Speaker 1>children is Trader Joe's. I mean, they make it so

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<v Speaker 1>easy when it comes to Like, good foods, quickly, easy

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<v Speaker 1>to grab, easy to heat, all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Something has changed drastically since I was a kid, which

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<v Speaker 2>was 30 years ago, in that children apparently have a

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<v Speaker 2>choice now about what to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's that. That's wild. Like, a kid gets to say—

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine telling— what is your mom's name?

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<v Speaker 2>Kathleen.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine telling Kathleen, you know, Mom, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>eating that chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>I want steak.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you out of your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be here today if you put up that fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing. It's I would, cause I would

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<v Speaker 2>have either been murdered or I would have just starved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's, that's the reality is that there wasn't,

0:23:28.340 --> 0:23:30.219
<v Speaker 2>it was that we made this and you eat it.

0:23:30.580 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't like this, then you don't eat dinner. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And any kind of other sort of debate, whether

0:23:35.980 --> 0:23:38.340
<v Speaker 2>or not we're going back and forth about, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like this side. You don't like, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the, the star kissed chicken salad on the, on

0:23:45.950 --> 0:23:46.470
<v Speaker 2>the toast.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds, yeah, that sounds great. Kathleen, I'd like some more.

0:23:52.740 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 2>My dad, my mom's a pretty good cook, but my

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.210
<v Speaker 2>dad was like the classic, you take the chicken out

0:23:58.270 --> 0:23:59.030
<v Speaker 2>of the package.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:23:59.810 --> 0:24:04.790
<v Speaker 2>You put it directly onto a pan. Nothing else. And

0:24:04.830 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 2>wait until it gets that nice little crust, that little spongy.

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Crust to the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>We ate unseasoned chicken in the oven so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, same.

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<v Speaker 2>Every night.

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<v Speaker 1>Same. And it would have that hard layer on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've seen both of our lack of willpower when

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it comes to tasty foods. Could you imagine if our

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>parents cooked well?

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<v Speaker 3>No.

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>We would be 600 pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Obese.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we have zero willpower. No, and we were raised,

0:24:33.890 --> 0:24:37.169
<v Speaker 2>my mom was a vegetarian. I think she still is, mostly,

0:24:37.250 --> 0:24:39.260
<v Speaker 2>maybe a pescatarian. But we were raised as kids who

0:24:39.300 --> 0:24:40.900
<v Speaker 2>ate a lot of soy, which is obvious if you've

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<v Speaker 2>met me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of the, thank you, Elmer. Elmer, please laugh

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<v Speaker 2>into the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, but like, yeah, as a soy boy, which we

0:24:50.910 --> 0:24:53.690
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a word for it back then, but like

0:24:53.710 --> 0:24:56.939
<v Speaker 2>we had to eat like smart dogs, you know, and, and, uh,

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.540
<v Speaker 2>bean black bean burgers and all the fake stuff.

0:24:59.720 --> 0:24:59.980
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't have a real cheeseburger until I was

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<v Speaker 2>like 16 years old. I was rebelling.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could have never asked her. No.

0:25:07.470 --> 0:25:09.450
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, hey, I would like to ask you.

0:25:09.460 --> 0:25:12.660
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't an option. No! Like, when did that become, like,

0:25:12.740 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>something that you could do?

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.500
<v Speaker 2>And also, the idea that, like, I guess social media

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<v Speaker 2>making women, moms, homemakers, men, I guess also, but mostly

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 2>women who are making the food in this story. feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they have to make good stuff for their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>There was never an expectation. No, what do you mean?

0:25:29.700 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Like this expectation that like, Oh, my kid is going

0:25:31.540 --> 0:25:33.500
<v Speaker 1>to like this. Like that didn't exist. My mom was

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<v Speaker 1>on Weight Watchers like my whole childhood. The worst it tasted,

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<v Speaker 1>the better. It's like, I don't want any more of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Three points. Everything in our.

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<v Speaker 2>House was low fat. It was trash. It was awful.

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.899
<v Speaker 2>It was soy and loaf. It was the worst tasting

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:50.620
<v Speaker 2>stuff ever.

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<v Speaker 1>But look at how spelt you are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Coming up next. Um, this has been something

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<v Speaker 1>that has been talked about for a while now, even

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<v Speaker 1>like the guys that work out the most professional athletes

0:26:03.570 --> 0:26:06.010
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Um, you, you take them to a

0:26:06.050 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Pilates class that is very hot with women. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been for a long time and it's impossible and they

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:13.780
<v Speaker 1>can't get over the fact that they can't do this

0:26:13.820 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>simple female workout.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have some personal firsthand experience here.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait. Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 3>AM 640.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Riesmeyer is hanging out with me today and that's

0:26:33.340 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>me be here all week. Thank you so much. Well,

0:26:36.740 --> 0:26:40.070
<v Speaker 1>you'll be here most of the week. So I am

0:26:40.130 --> 0:26:42.730
<v Speaker 1>very grateful. Through Wednesday. You are so much fun to

0:26:42.750 --> 0:26:43.090
<v Speaker 1>hang out with.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>This is always a blast. And every single time that

0:26:46.780 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm asked to come on this show, I say I

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 2>would love to.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see Andy Riesmeyer on KTLA every morning, Monday

0:26:52.740 --> 0:26:55.740
<v Speaker 1>through Friday. He does a show called Do It Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're great.

0:26:56.940 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>And he is on KFI on Sundays from 12 to

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<v Speaker 1>3 when there's no football.

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend, depending on how long the Chargers game goes,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on how tortured we are, I will be here

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<v Speaker 2>from 2 to 4 p.m.

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<v Speaker 1>2 to 4 p.m. this Sunday. So catch him. Going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great. Have you done? I'm sure.

0:27:14.830 --> 0:27:19.270
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're an active person. You've probably spent

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<v Speaker 2>some time on The Reformer.

0:27:20.810 --> 0:27:25.179
<v Speaker 1>I have. I have. I think I got my first

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:31.780
<v Speaker 1>Pilates DVD circa, you know, 2002. 2002.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:33.980
<v Speaker 2>I think it's, it's been, it kind of got popular

0:27:34.020 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 2>in the nineties. I feel like popular. It goes, it

0:27:36.380 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>ebbs and flows. Like yoga became a little bit bigger

0:27:39.100 --> 0:27:41.260
<v Speaker 2>for a minute and then the hot yoga thing happened.

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.780
<v Speaker 2>And then everybody realized that was really bad for you. Yes.

0:27:43.859 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>With every fad.

0:27:44.740 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And now there's hot Pilates. Oh really? Yeah.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:47.500
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:48.420
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can handle that.

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Um, but yes, Pilates studios have blossomed. They've blown up sometimes. Uh,

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, too much is too much is too much.

0:27:56.950 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's hard to find good Pilates instructors because there's

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.850
<v Speaker 1>so many studios now. You get people that don't know

0:28:04.970 --> 0:28:09.490
<v Speaker 1>the practice as well, but... The thing is, is the

0:28:09.510 --> 0:28:12.050
<v Speaker 1>more people that are active, I think the better for everybody.

0:28:12.130 --> 0:28:14.190
<v Speaker 1>You're more active. You're in a good mood. You're nicer

0:28:14.230 --> 0:28:16.690
<v Speaker 1>to people. So I support all of it. I agree.

0:28:16.770 --> 0:28:19.570
<v Speaker 2>So gym bros are now going to Pilates in the

0:28:19.609 --> 0:28:22.300
<v Speaker 2>latest sort of uptake in the trend. And they're finding

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 2>that it's not as easy as a cute little workout

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.300
<v Speaker 2>that it might appear. Obviously, when you see.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.500
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's interesting. There's still people who think

0:28:31.540 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>this about Pilates.

0:28:32.460 --> 0:28:35.340
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it every time I've been, I told

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.620
<v Speaker 1>you how long I've been doing Pilates for every time

0:28:37.660 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I go to Pilates, I think it's going to be

0:28:38.940 --> 0:28:41.459
<v Speaker 1>a chill day. Oh, I'll just go to Pilates. And

0:28:41.500 --> 0:28:44.590
<v Speaker 1>then you don't ever expect to work that hard. And

0:28:44.610 --> 0:28:48.060
<v Speaker 1>the thing with Pilates is you may get better at it,

0:28:48.130 --> 0:28:49.230
<v Speaker 1>but it's never easier.

0:28:49.250 --> 0:28:53.230
<v Speaker 2>Oh, interesting. That sucks. I mean, and I think that

0:28:53.270 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>like you think about a reformer or even a non-reformer Pilates,

0:28:57.100 --> 0:28:59.700
<v Speaker 2>which is, you could still do that. And that's a

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.530
<v Speaker 2>little closer maybe to yoga, but these isolated movements that

0:29:02.610 --> 0:29:06.650
<v Speaker 2>look very low key and lo-fi or the little tiny weight.

0:29:06.850 --> 0:29:09.190
<v Speaker 1>And the more your muscles, you use your muscles, the

0:29:09.210 --> 0:29:11.490
<v Speaker 1>more they're going to be working, right? So that's where

0:29:11.650 --> 0:29:13.220
<v Speaker 1>it comes into where it's never easy.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>And doesn't it also target muscle groups that you don't

0:29:15.620 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>usually work out?

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:16.620 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of men though, online are finding out

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.820
<v Speaker 2>the hard way that yes, even though that they are

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe used to doing CrossFit or, Or going to the gym,

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.700
<v Speaker 2>doing resistance training. Pilates is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you do, doesn't this make sense for any cross training?

0:29:32.650 --> 0:29:35.970
<v Speaker 1>You know, just because you're good at one sport doesn't

0:29:36.030 --> 0:29:38.070
<v Speaker 1>mean you're going to be good at the next sport.

0:29:38.730 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's this like a. that Pilates always had

0:29:41.900 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>with the green juice. West Los Angeles set.

0:29:44.780 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>That is just easy. That made it seem woman. And

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you think it's just easy. She doesn't eat and she

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.380
<v Speaker 1>drinks one green juice a day. That's not how it works.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.100
<v Speaker 2>And also Pilates is supposed to get you toned, not jacked.

0:29:54.420 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.390
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's probably part of it.

0:29:56.420 --> 0:29:59.530
<v Speaker 1>It's also very hard for a woman to get jacked

0:29:59.950 --> 0:30:02.610
<v Speaker 1>that that's, that's a fallacy. You've got to do a

0:30:02.710 --> 0:30:05.370
<v Speaker 1>lot to, to reach the level of jacked in terms

0:30:05.450 --> 0:30:09.530
<v Speaker 1>of like, um, taking other things, um, For your body.

0:30:09.730 --> 0:30:12.570
<v Speaker 1>Women's bodies are not built to achieve that kind of

0:30:13.210 --> 0:30:17.390
<v Speaker 1>jack status. Don't worry about it. It's not going to happen.

0:30:17.590 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>And I just think it is of that sort of headspace.

0:30:21.150 --> 0:30:24.260
<v Speaker 2>What is that going on? Did you feel that? Is

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that the construction?

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>It's construction. We're knocking down walls in here, Andy. We're

0:30:27.820 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>breaking barriers.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.670
<v Speaker 2>I swear I feel like it's like, oh, here it is. Oh,

0:30:31.710 --> 0:30:33.110
<v Speaker 2>we got an earthquake.

0:30:33.390 --> 0:30:35.700
<v Speaker 1>We got the big one. It would not be cool

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:39.060
<v Speaker 1>for the earthquake to hit at 1156. I don't want

0:30:39.100 --> 0:30:41.270
<v Speaker 1>to give the earthquake to Monks and Merrill. Oh, I see.

0:30:41.330 --> 0:30:43.290
<v Speaker 1>I've already given them an hour. I don't want to

0:30:43.330 --> 0:30:49.090
<v Speaker 1>give them the earthquake. great um i uh i think

0:30:49.150 --> 0:30:52.470
<v Speaker 1>that we're um we're gonna be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe i'll go to pilates i did try for

0:30:54.430 --> 0:30:56.290
<v Speaker 2>the first time uh not too long ago i went

0:30:56.310 --> 0:30:58.170
<v Speaker 2>to pull and how'd it go i i had the

0:30:58.190 --> 0:31:00.730
<v Speaker 2>same kind of reaction where i was like wow i

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:01.730
<v Speaker 2>am doing nothing.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.820
<v Speaker 1>Are you an active person not really no.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.700
<v Speaker 2>I mean i had done probably more in the past

0:31:05.740 --> 0:31:07.900
<v Speaker 2>but i this was so new to me and so

0:31:07.980 --> 0:31:10.350
<v Speaker 2>different and i had done a lot of like I

0:31:10.390 --> 0:31:14.250
<v Speaker 2>did the elliptical and the bike and some weights, but

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:15.890
<v Speaker 2>nothing like this.

0:31:15.970 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>What did you wear?

0:31:16.620 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Now we're getting personal. Just some Lulu shorts and a

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:27.780
<v Speaker 2>workout shirt. I feel like my clothing situation was fine.

0:31:27.940 --> 0:31:28.900
<v Speaker 1>Were you the only male?

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.180
<v Speaker 2>No, there were a couple of other dudes there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And this was a reformer class? No, it wasn't.

0:31:34.370 --> 0:31:35.470
<v Speaker 2>It was regular Pilates.

0:31:35.510 --> 0:31:36.050
<v Speaker 1>Matt Pilates.

0:31:36.070 --> 0:31:38.630
<v Speaker 2>Matt Pilates. Matt Toffler Pilates.

0:31:38.690 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>He taught it. Okay. It was crazy. I don't think

0:31:41.860 --> 0:31:44.740
<v Speaker 1>you should do the reformer Pilates. I'm worried about your balance.

0:31:45.100 --> 0:31:45.620
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:31:45.820 --> 0:31:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I will not.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. I mean, just don't

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:48.959
<v Speaker 1>jump right in.

0:31:48.980 --> 0:31:51.420
<v Speaker 2>I don't like classes because then it's like you have

0:31:51.460 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 2>a baseline to compare yourself to other people who are

0:31:53.540 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>doing it better.

0:31:54.260 --> 0:31:56.980
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you can't compare yourself. It's a thief of joy.

0:31:57.020 --> 0:31:57.540
<v Speaker 2>How can you not?

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.140
<v Speaker 1>Comparison is the thief of joy.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.500
<v Speaker 2>And then they walk around and they're like, okay, do

0:32:01.540 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 2>this with your leg differently. Do this with your back differently.

0:32:04.460 --> 0:32:05.140
<v Speaker 2>This isn't right.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that.

0:32:06.310 --> 0:32:09.250
<v Speaker 2>Just let me be bad by myself. It's a miracle

0:32:09.290 --> 0:32:09.890
<v Speaker 2>I'm here at all.

0:32:10.670 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should go back to Pilates, period.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you tomorrow, everybody. Why don't you go ahead

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:21.140
<v Speaker 1>and go home? Monks and Merrill are up next. Stay

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.350
<v Speaker 1>dry out there. This is KFI.

0:32:24.490 --> 0:32:26.730
<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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