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Speaker 1: that first up, Mark Jones from Gun Owners of America

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Speaker 1: Amazing Grace's dad. He claims his daughter was murdered in

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Speaker 1: of Sorts before Midnight and Kenneth Abramowitz the latest on Gaza.

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Speaker 1: But first up, Mark Jones from Gun Owners of America. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got the Second Amendment in the Constitution, the right

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Garry. It's great to be on your

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic to have you here tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The mission that you have for the Gone Owners

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Speaker 1: You remember the infamous John Kerry goose hunting story that

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Speaker 3: You know, the Democrats do it every election. Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: You know, I've often wondered if sometimes gun control, which

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Speaker 3: It absolutely does. During Obama's second term, when he finally

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. And we've seen it lightly with the political

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Speaker 1: It well and they still touch the fact that gun

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Speaker 1: Like I've I've I've had I've had Stephen Williford, who

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Speaker 3: Mark absolutely, Gary, And you know we see that, you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question, and we joined Guns of

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Speaker 3: And the President ordered an investigation into this, because, as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the globalist It fits right in with

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell tell me real quickly about Hunter Outreach

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Speaker 3: Mark, Well, our moatto is the Second Amendment. It's not

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Speaker 1: And if folks are interested in gun owners of America,

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Speaker 3: Mark gunowners dot org. There's information there about our efforts

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Speaker 1: Mark Jones, thank you so much tonight. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: You got it A breaking back Afternoons with more Nightcap

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. As we continue on this Tuesday

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Speaker 1: evening at seven hundred WLW, Nick Bryant is our guest.

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Speaker 1: As I told you before the news break, Nick is

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Speaker 1: I know I've been boning up on my Nick Bryant

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Speaker 1: for this interview. He has been writing extensively and concentrating

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Speaker 1: by state federal authorities time and time again. From what

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Speaker 1: How are you glad to be with you? So enlighten

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Speaker 5: That was the case with Epstein too.

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Speaker 6: But the Franklin scandal, in many ways, I should say

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Speaker 6: Franklin scandal. The Franklin scandal, the two main pimps flew

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Speaker 5: And with Epstein, we've got a.

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Speaker 6: Similar phenomena of kids being thrown all around the country

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Speaker 5: So it's really these are horrific stories. And because.

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Speaker 6: We don't want to believe that a government could be

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Speaker 6: When I first heard about the Franklin scandal, I was

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Speaker 6: It was like when I was looking into the Frankline scandal,

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Speaker 6: Dangerous story, Nick, and if you don't pursue it, I

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Speaker 1: You said that the Franklin scandal and the Epstein scandal

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Speaker 1: Also because you believe Jeffrey Epstein was a CIA operative.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I believe that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset,

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Speaker 6: Black book and flight logs on the Internet, and I

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Speaker 6: released more incriminating information on Epstein in twenty fifteen than.

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Speaker 5: She did in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 6: So and I think that the Trump administration underestimated people's

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Speaker 6: emotional zeal for this issue and also their knowledge because

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Speaker 6: Pambonni then came on and said that she'd been bamboozled

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Speaker 6: by the FBI Field Office, and then she said, I've

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Speaker 6: got a truckload of evidence now that we've got a

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Speaker 6: come thru. That was on May seventh, and she did

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Speaker 6: say that there are ten thousands of videos of Epstein

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Speaker 6: with children or child prono or child porn, and there

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Speaker 6: are hundreds of victims. So Pam Bondi is now saying

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Speaker 6: that Epstein downloaded all that from the internet, But in

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Speaker 6: February she's saying in Ma she's saying that there was

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Speaker 6: child abuse material with Jeffrey Epstein molesting underage girls. So

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Speaker 6: she's light about that, and then I think the crescendo

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Speaker 6: of lies really was in February she said that the

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Speaker 6: FBI was just looking through the FBI Department of just

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Speaker 6: We're just looking through Epstein's cash of child abuse material

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Speaker 6: and things that he had, discs and hard drugs. But

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Speaker 6: as soon as Epstein was arrested in twenty nineteen, the

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Speaker 6: FBI couldn't open that face safe fast enough. I mean

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Speaker 6: they opened it like the next day, and they took

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Speaker 6: all that stuff out, discs and according to the New

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Speaker 6: York Times, there were hundreds, if not thousands of images

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Speaker 6: of child abuse material, and.

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Speaker 5: Business Insider reported that there.

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Speaker 6: Was hard drives too that were taken out, and the

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Speaker 6: FBI and Department of Justice and who knows who else we're.

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Speaker 5: Looking at that material. Probably the next day.

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Speaker 6: There were probably people that did double shifts and triple

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Speaker 6: shifts to look at all that material. So Pam Bondi

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Speaker 6: is claiming that they that the Trump administration is looking

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Speaker 6: at that material for the first time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's another pretty egregious line.

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Speaker 1: Well, the FBI has proven itself recently in the last

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Speaker 1: decade or so not to be the most reputable of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies under multiple administrations. And you know that,

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Speaker 1: I guess that would take a while to clear out.

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Speaker 1: They're still trying to piece together, and of course with

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Speaker 1: artic frost, they're looking at all of the things that

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Speaker 1: the FBI that was doing that was totally illegal, to

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Speaker 1: put a presidential candidate in jail, and to monitor Republican

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Speaker 1: senators and the like. The fbis had their fingers in

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Speaker 1: all kinds of unsavory stuff, to say the least. And

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Speaker 1: this is obviously child sex trafficking. We're talking about pure pedophilia,

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Speaker 1: which I find nothing more repulsive, and obviously you do too.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I would not trust the FBI as

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Speaker 1: a source as far as we could throw them, and

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Speaker 1: the CIA as well.

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Speaker 6: The thing about it is, we know that the FBI

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Speaker 6: has been thoroughly corrupted, that Jagger Hoover wore red dresses

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Speaker 6: and blackmailed people.

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Speaker 5: I mean we know that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a tremendous amount of perfidiousness with the FBI.

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Speaker 5: And then the I mean co Intel pro was out

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Speaker 5: of that was a program.

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Speaker 6: That they have of a spying on all kinds of

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Speaker 6: Americans and Committee, various atrocitiess.

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Speaker 1: Crossfire, Hurricane, Arctic frost. I mean, come on, the list

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Speaker 1: goes on.

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Speaker 6: So now we're supposed to believe the FBI and the

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Speaker 6: Department of Justice that Epstein and Maxwell acting alone. There

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Speaker 6: was a very strange document that they released on July.

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Speaker 6: And when I say, hey, I'm talking about the FBI

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Speaker 6: and Apartment of Justice. There was a very strange document

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Speaker 6: that they released on July fifth, July sixth. It wasn't signed,

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Speaker 6: but it said that there were three hundred gigabytes material

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Speaker 6: taken out of Jeffrey Ebstin's possessions or impounded from Jeffrey

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Speaker 6: Ebsen's possessions. That I agree with that and I'm promised that.

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Speaker 6: And then it said that there were over a thousand

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Speaker 6: and victims, and I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any problems with that.

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Speaker 6: But then it said that Jeffrey Ebstein acted alone, and

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Speaker 6: we just say, have too much proof that Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 6: didn't act alone, and that Jeffrey Epstein didn't blackmail anybody,

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Speaker 6: and we also have a lot of proof about that too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what. Unfortunately, our times fairly limited,

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Speaker 1: Nick is there one made point that you wanted to

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Speaker 1: make about your work and what you found out and

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Speaker 1: what you think you're going to find out as you

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Speaker 1: continue your work.

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Speaker 6: Well, the government is doing everything I possibly can to

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Speaker 6: make sure that information doesn't come out. The government has

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Speaker 6: shut down. Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, he

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Speaker 6: adjourned the House early so they couldn't vote on Massey's

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Speaker 6: discharged petition that would have started the ball rolling and

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Speaker 6: that would have unsealed the Epstein files. And then Mike

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Speaker 6: Johnson eventually said that Donald Trump was an FBI informant

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Speaker 6: on Epstein, and.

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Speaker 5: He had to walk that back, and now he's not

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Speaker 5: They're not letting the House commence.

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Speaker 6: When I say they, I mean I'm talking about Mike

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Speaker 6: Johnson and the Republican adminstration. So it's going to be

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Speaker 6: up to us as Americans to get answers. This is

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Speaker 6: something that America needs answers to because our government has

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Speaker 6: been malfeasant over the years in a number of different ways,

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Speaker 6: but this is this is worse. I mean, this is

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Speaker 6: the worst thing that they possibly could have done to

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Speaker 6: cover up child sex trafficking. And if you cover up

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Speaker 6: a crime, you're ad embedding that crime. So our government

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Speaker 6: is covering up child sex trafficking. And this is there's

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Speaker 6: a number of reasons why it's important that the government

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Speaker 6: shouldn't be that rotten to the core that it would

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Speaker 6: cover up child sexual abuse. But according to the Centers

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Speaker 6: for Disease Control, twenty five percent of underage girls and

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Speaker 6: five percent of underage boys and the US experienced.

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Speaker 5: Child central abuse.

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Speaker 6: So that translates to fifty million Americans that have experienced

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Speaker 6: child central abuse.

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Speaker 5: And there's another reason why this is so important.

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Speaker 6: If we allow the Justice Department to be unresponsive to

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Speaker 6: victims in the Epstein case, proven child sex trafficking case,

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Speaker 6: that says a message to millions of victims that they have.

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Speaker 5: No voice and no hope for jess.

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Speaker 6: Nick Bryant I started a nonprofit called Epstein Justice. Okay,

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Speaker 6: I hope that your audience will come to and check

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Speaker 6: us out Epstein Justice dot com.

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Speaker 1: Epstein Justice dot com. Also your latest book, The Truth

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Speaker 1: about Watergate, A Tale of Extraordinary Lies and Liars. Nick

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Speaker 1: Bryant is the author and our guest tonight. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your time, Nick, and good luck.

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Speaker 5: Thank you you've Epstein Justice dot.

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Speaker 1: Com, Deanjustice dot com. If you'd like to know more.

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Speaker 1: Coming up a rebroadcast of our Rock and Roll Archaeology

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Speaker 1: from Saturday Morning with Jim Lebarbara. I Well, remember the

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Speaker 1: first conversation I had with our next guest, and it

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Speaker 1: totally shook me up. I was riveted by the story.

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Speaker 1: I was horrified by the story. It touched my heart,

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Speaker 1: and many people who heard it told me later that

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Speaker 1: it touched theirs. This man's story is a story of

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Speaker 1: his daughter, Grace, and on October thirteenth, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: God gave Scott Sarah a new mission to get the

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Speaker 1: word out to let people know what was going on

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Speaker 1: in our so called healthcare centers, at least in some

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Speaker 1: of them across the country, and what had happened. And

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Speaker 1: I'll just read from the rima Grace's web description. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this extensively on the air, but to submit

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Speaker 1: what happened on October thirteenth, at twenty twenty one, at

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Speaker 1: seven twenty seven, their time, his buddy, Grace, their daughter,

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Speaker 1: took her last breath, and because of meds that she

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Speaker 1: was on in the hospital, Grace was given precedex lerazapam

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Speaker 1: and morphine in combination without informed consent. She had an

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Speaker 1: unauthorized DNI order DNR order rather placed by the doctor

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Speaker 1: on her chart that the nursing staff claim prevented her

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Speaker 1: from being revived by them. After morphine was added to

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Speaker 1: this drug cocktail, they ignored the families please to save

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Speaker 1: their daughter, and they were proclaiming the family that she

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Speaker 1: is not DNR. Grace was special. The faith she had

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Speaker 1: was real. When we think God has abandoned us, we

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Speaker 1: yearn for her bravery and faith so pure and true.

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Speaker 1: Why did God want her home after all? One day

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Speaker 1: we'll find out. So, without any further ado, to talk

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Speaker 1: about the anniversary of Grace's passing to be one of

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Speaker 1: the angels in heaven. Her dad Scott Sarah, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me back again. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for reading that. I get teary while you read it.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 1: And Scott blasted out an email last yesterday actually and

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Speaker 1: ask for a moment of silence for Grace. At seven

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, I guess your time. You're on Central Time, correct, Scott,

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Speaker 1: that is correct? And my wife set her alarm on

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Speaker 1: her phone for eight twenty seven we're on Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: It went off, and we bowed our heads and prayed

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Speaker 1: for your family and prayed in honor of Grace Sharah.

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Speaker 1: And it has set you on a whole new course

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Speaker 1: in your life that you didn't expect you'd be on. Right, Scott,

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Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, the first, you know, first year in shock. And

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Speaker 4: you know, surprisingly, I see God's providence right from the beginning,

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Speaker 4: because I went into a different hospital three days after

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Speaker 4: Grace died and they did not follow the protocols that

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Speaker 4: were killing people, including Grace, and so that was a

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Speaker 4: wake up call. Well, then I started looking into her records.

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Speaker 4: We received her records three four days after we requested them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was another miracle. And I reviewed them

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Speaker 4: with a doctor and we saw why this was raised

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Speaker 4: in a Diane accident. So I requested a meeting with

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Speaker 4: the hospital CEO and the doctor and they refused to meet.

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Speaker 4: I thought, well, this is strange. Realize, Gary, Jeff, at

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Speaker 4: this point, I'm not awake to anything. I'm just a

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Speaker 4: big this man with a healthy distress for the government.

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Speaker 4: I trust the system, but I mean, you just we're

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Speaker 4: going on with your life. And so then after finding

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Speaker 4: a complaint with the Departments of Safety and Professional Services,

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Speaker 4: which is the medical examining board in Wisconsin. They said

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Speaker 4: the doctor didn't do anything wrong. So now it's like,

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Speaker 4: are they all in on it? So that was in

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Speaker 4: January of twenty two, And as we move along the timeline,

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Speaker 4: I met a lady who I have a phone call

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Speaker 4: with coming up here in an hour and a half.

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Speaker 4: Her name is Vera, and she was a Holocaust survivor.

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Speaker 4: And in the process of meeting her and comparing notes

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Speaker 4: because I'm thinking, this is a second Holocaust, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: And she was telling the same story. So we became

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Speaker 4: fast friends. And I was introduced to a term called

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Speaker 4: the Hegelian dialectic, and that term got me into realizing

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Speaker 4: this is a spiritual battle and Satan is using dialectics

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Speaker 4: to convince the population of all kinds of nefarious things

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Speaker 4: that God warns us of, and specifically in First Thessalonians,

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Speaker 4: chapter five, verse three, God warns us to not be

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Speaker 4: duped by peace and safety. And they use this all

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Speaker 4: the time. So you look at COVID, for example, they

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Speaker 4: come up with this boogeyman virus. Then the peace and

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Speaker 4: safety solution the vaccine that's going to save us. And

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Speaker 4: the vaccine is already and I'm putting vaccine in quotes,

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Speaker 4: as you probably realize, has already killed over six hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand Americans, and yet you can't find that in mainstream media.

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Speaker 2: It's all covered up.

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Speaker 4: So that was being duped by peace and safety. We

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Speaker 4: want the simple way out versus doing the research. And ultimately,

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Speaker 4: as I fast forward to today, we had the trial

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Speaker 4: in June. The jury decided against us, even though we

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Speaker 4: had the truth on our side, a better expert, they

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Speaker 4: decided against us. They decided in favor of the system,

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Speaker 4: you know, and of course I expected that going into it,

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Speaker 4: because the legal system is in bed with the medical system.

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Speaker 4: But now after the trial, what does things look like?

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Speaker 4: And you know, the mission hasn't changed. The trial was

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Speaker 4: just a stepping stone in the mission to shed God's

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Speaker 4: light on evil, and he put on my heart. God

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Speaker 4: put on my heart in August to write down everything

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Speaker 4: I've learned about the medical industrial complex. So this will

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Speaker 4: sound crazy, but I started right, Oh, this is maybe

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Speaker 4: a longer substact, ten twelve page as well. It ended

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Speaker 4: up being an eighty page book, and it's going through

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Speaker 4: that process right now. Of is this I think it's

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Speaker 4: going to end up being published. Scary, Jeff. That's where

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Speaker 4: things are at.

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Speaker 1: What is the cause you think of of this, this

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Speaker 1: evil cabal, the medical industrial complex? What what is their

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Speaker 1: ultimate goal? Is it depopulation? Is it absolute control of

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Speaker 1: a population? What is it? Scott?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's both of those. So that's why they have

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Speaker 4: a two prong agenda. They have the population control agenda

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Speaker 4: and the climate control agenda, and that fits into the

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Speaker 4: two halves of Revelation thirteen which we've talked about before,

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Speaker 4: the anti christ system half and the false profit halfs

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Speaker 4: So the antichrist system wants to manage population control and

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Speaker 4: the false profit system wants to manage the climate control.

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Speaker 4: So then you have the physical agenda population control, and

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Speaker 4: then the false profit agenda worshiping the planet versus worshiping

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Speaker 4: the creator. So we have, you know, the Antichrist and

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Speaker 4: the false profit system dueling against each other, both haves

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Speaker 4: of Satan's nature. So I see this as spiritual in

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Speaker 4: that light. The population control agenda that they have a

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Speaker 4: ready willing and able group to implement it on because

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Speaker 4: they have convinced us that the government will take care

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Speaker 4: of us as we age through free medical medicare and medicaid,

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Speaker 4: although it's not free, but they've convinced us of this,

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Speaker 4: and then they've also convinced us that we have to

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Speaker 4: balance the budget, which we have a fiat currency. There's

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Speaker 4: all such thing as a balanced budget. They can spend

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Speaker 4: money on anything they want at any time, and they've

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Speaker 4: proven it. But when it comes to medical they get

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Speaker 4: us into this debate constantly that oh, we've got too

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Speaker 4: many people on the program. Right now, there's one hundred

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Speaker 4: and thirty five million, over one third of the population

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Speaker 4: is on these programs. So we've got to do something

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Speaker 4: to balance that budget. So what they do is to

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Speaker 4: balance the budget is they ration care, and they have

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Speaker 4: a whole complex that is run by the Centers for

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Speaker 4: Medicare and Medicaid Services that is designed to hasten death

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Speaker 4: through rational care. And that's how they're pulling it off.

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Speaker 1: Well. Obamacare, many critics of it, like me, pointed to

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Speaker 1: other socialized medicine systems by other governments around the world,

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Speaker 1: and we warned about and talked about the so called

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Speaker 1: death panels. When someone's too old or too sick, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just can't continue to pay for that

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Speaker 1: with our money. So even though we can spend money

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Speaker 1: on anything anytime we want, and currency means nothing, we've

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Speaker 1: got to save money here, and we've got to save

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Speaker 1: money by letting people die. True, it's right on.

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Speaker 4: Obamacare really became the last nail in that coffin. And

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Speaker 4: so this was started already, well, a long time ago,

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Speaker 4: but I mean officially when you look at the legal

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Speaker 4: system and how they legalize things, I mean, in nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty the Health Human Services Department was created. Then that

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Speaker 4: created the whole idea of Standards of Care CMS was

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Speaker 4: created in July of nineteen sixty five, that's when Medicare

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Speaker 4: Medicaids started. Surprisingly nursed not surprisingly, nursing homes came on

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Speaker 4: the scene a couple of years later, because now we

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Speaker 4: have to have a place to put all these people.

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Speaker 4: Of course, we don't want the family to take care

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Speaker 4: of them like God intended. So you got a place

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Speaker 4: to put all of them, and you know, they can

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Speaker 4: have the government pay for that their time in the

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Speaker 4: nursing home as long as they submit to the standards

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Speaker 4: of care that are designed to kill them. Yes, Obamacare,

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Speaker 4: you know, specifically, if you look up section fifteen fifty

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Speaker 4: three of Obamacare. This is an interesting deception because we

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Speaker 4: as a country, we are extremely good at projecting our

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Speaker 4: sin on other countries. So China's constant boogeyman. But in

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Speaker 4: this case, I'm talking about Canada. So we point our

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Speaker 4: fingers at Canada saying, look at their medical assistance and

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Speaker 4: dying program, and we're the ones who started it. In Obamacare,

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Speaker 4: Section fifteen fifty three specifically outlines the Youth and Asia

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Speaker 4: agenda that you know that you're calling it the death

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Speaker 4: panels that Sarah Palin weren't warned about, which you know,

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Speaker 4: the death panels are incorporated in section fifteen fifty three.

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Speaker 4: And you know, that's why I say Obamacare was the

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Speaker 4: latest nail in the poppin because it really started way

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Speaker 4: before Obamacare. Obamacare codified it. But if you think about

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Speaker 4: how they did this over time, they started with the

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Speaker 4: idea that okay, employers need to provide medical care for

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Speaker 4: their employees. Well, what's the reason for that. Why does

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Speaker 4: that become an employer obligation? So the population gets programmed

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Speaker 4: over time, and so pretty soon the population is ready

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Speaker 4: for mandatory health which Obamacare put in place. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it took generations for that time period to happen. All

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Speaker 4: a sudden March twenty third, twenty ten gets passed.

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Speaker 1: How did how does you eugenics fit into all of this? Scott?

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Speaker 4: Well, eugenics. What people would think about eugenics is that,

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Speaker 4: you know, the cling of the population, the weaker people,

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Speaker 4: they need to go for the benefit of society. And

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Speaker 4: you know, so that's been around for a long time.

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Speaker 4: But what what's happening now is that eugenics has become

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Speaker 4: all of us. So we will one hundred percent of

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Speaker 4: us will either be disabled or elderly someday. And so

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Speaker 4: eugenics is applying not just across you know, very limited

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Speaker 4: population groups, it's across the entire population group, because it

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Speaker 4: applies to literally all of us. And you know, so

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Speaker 4: how did they know when they will never come out

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Speaker 4: in say we're operating in a eugenics program. So what

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Speaker 4: they did is they labeled it with a term they

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Speaker 4: didn't really label it, but I mean the term that

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Speaker 4: labels eugenics is collectivism. And so the first stake in

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Speaker 4: the ground with collectivism, and you know the definition of

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Speaker 4: collectivism is we've got to do what's good for the

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Speaker 4: population versus the good of the individual. Well, God is

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Speaker 4: an individualist. So collectivism, when you think about it, it

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Speaker 4: seems logical. Yeah, we got to worry about the majority,

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Speaker 4: not the individual. It's like the idea of triaging. So

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Speaker 4: triaging is a real thing. In an objective emergency, you've

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Speaker 4: got to decide who you're going to treat and who

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Speaker 4: you're not going to treat. But the idea of triaging

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Speaker 4: across the population, that is satanic. So how they did this.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen oh five, there was a Supreme Court case,

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Speaker 4: Jacobson versus Massachusetts, And in that case, Jacobson was a

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Speaker 4: pastor didn't want to take the small pox spect you,

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Speaker 4: and he even proved to the court that the vaccine

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Speaker 4: has side effects. But the court ignored him seven to

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Speaker 4: two in favor of the state of Massachusetts. And that's

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Speaker 4: where the spirit of collectivism was born. They said that

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Speaker 4: at times of great danger, that the government has the

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Speaker 4: right to implement things for the good of the population

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Speaker 4: versus the good of the individual. You go ahead.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly where the COVID vaccine mandates came exactly that

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Speaker 1: nineteen o five.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't great if it wasn't for that nineteen oh

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Speaker 4: five case, there would be no such thing as mandates,

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Speaker 4: but they gave a license to a Satanic government to

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Speaker 4: implement mandates, and we fell for it, hook Lan and

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Speaker 4: thinker Grace is dead because I fell for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's uh. I'm so glad that you continue

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Speaker 1: this fight and you continue to research and you try

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Speaker 1: to continue to get the word out, Scott Sherah about

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Speaker 1: what's going on. I've only got unform fortunately, just a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. Can can you tell me? Can

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Speaker 1: you tell the listener where they can go to get

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Speaker 1: actual healthcare?

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Speaker 4: That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's a if you go to Grace's website,

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Speaker 4: which is our amazing Grace dot map, we have an

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Speaker 4: entire section. There's a resource tab. So if you look

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Speaker 4: at the top of the website, there's a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: of tabs and there's a resource tab. In that resource tab,

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Speaker 4: you'll see a link to a website called Join the Wedge,

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Speaker 4: and there's a couple other ones that are in that

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Speaker 4: section also, And I'll just specifically talk about Join the

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Speaker 4: Wedge because I know the lady who started her name

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Speaker 4: was Twila Brase and what she did was create a

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Speaker 4: system where doctors and nurses who choose willingly to not

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Speaker 4: participate in Medicare and Medicaid any longer, so they're they're

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Speaker 4: ejecting themselves out of the system, but they don't want

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Speaker 4: to practice. So that's the criteria for signing up. And

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Speaker 4: those are medical professionals then that are not bought by

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Speaker 4: the ration care model that is run by the Center

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Speaker 4: for Medicare and Medican Services. So that's a simple thing

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Speaker 4: all of us can do. Their cash paid doctors and

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Speaker 4: nurses do that before the need arise, get a relationship

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Speaker 4: with one of them before.

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Speaker 2: The need arises.

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Speaker 4: And that's just a simple practical thing that we all

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Speaker 4: have to do. You know, my wife and I did that,

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Speaker 4: of course almost immediately, and it's the critical thing that

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Speaker 4: we all should do right away.

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Speaker 1: For more information on our Amazing Grace, your daughter, your buddy,

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Speaker 1: go to our Amazing Grace dot net and you can

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Speaker 1: find that resource information on the tabsheet if you'd like

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Speaker 1: to break free of the cycle of this medical industrial

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Speaker 1: complex that has taken over healthcare in our country. Scott Sharrah,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I hope that we'll be

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Speaker 1: able to talk again soon for an.

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Speaker 4: Update well of any time, Gary, Jeff, God bless.

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Speaker 1: You, God bless you. And with that we will break.

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Speaker 1: And when we come back. Kenneth o'bramowitz, the latest done

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Speaker 1: Israel Gaza and the attempts at peace. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: that he continues to let me bug him to do

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Speaker 1: my show, and yet here he is once again. I

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Speaker 1: am the major inconvenience in Andy Fourman's life because he

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Speaker 1: has such a busy, such a full life. He has family,

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Speaker 1: he has his work with the Point Arc, he does

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Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Eagle, the Northern Kentucky Tribune. He's just busy

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Speaker 1: all the time, and yet he always makes time for

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Speaker 1: little old me, And I am just so humbled by

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Speaker 1: the fact that you could carve out a little bit

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Speaker 1: of your busy day just for me for thank you

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute. When you use the word time, time

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Speaker 2: translates to money. So have you not got my bills yet?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, con money.

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Speaker 1: You know that I've not gotten one invoice yet? How much?

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Speaker 1: How much?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Since you brought this up, how much do you do

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Speaker 1: I figuratively owe you? At this point For all of

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Speaker 1: the appearances on Nightcaps, Andy have you got a running

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Speaker 1: into it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put you in hawk. I do

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Speaker 2: it because I enjoy you. I enjoy the company, I

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Speaker 2: enjoy the platform you afford me on these airways.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not like other people. It's not like other

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Speaker 1: people that you charge for your time, which is money.

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Speaker 1: Because Andy's kind of like a lawyer. Any portion of

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or more is a full hour. I mean

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Speaker 1: just kind of kind of the way I charge iHeart

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Speaker 1: for these shows. Any if I were not get into

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Speaker 1: that I work for fifteen minutes, it's it's an hour's

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Speaker 1: worth of my time. I think it should.

871
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: Be very well, it should be you know, show prep

872
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: and things like that. But obviously this conversation has nothing

873
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: to do to your show prep that you're built up for. No,

874
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: this is not show prepp.

875
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: No.

876
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: And so I'm sure you want to talk about the Bengals.

877
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure you do want to talk about the Bengals,

878
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: but everybody else is I don't know what the big

879
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: deal is. I mean, you know, it's funny because after

880
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 2: this game on Sunday, I mean, everybody is a fan

881
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: has an excuse. You know, they're not going to come

882
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: out and say the Bengals are bad. The Bengals stink,

883
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: and the Bengals.

884
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: Have no future.

885
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, it was like a preseason game because Joe Flapple

886
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: played his first game. They played five games, you know,

887
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: with two and four. Now, I mean, really, I mean

888
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: moral victory? What does that mean? I'm hearing this Marl victory?

889
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: Could you help me?

890
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: Am?

891
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 2: I at the point in life where I'm just so downtrodden,

892
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: negative and you know, pointing at the clouds. Is that

893
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: is that where I've become? Or is this common sense?

894
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: Like Maral victories? I don't think coaches won't moral victories. Really.

895
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I see I see things going

896
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: around around in the National Football League, and the longer

897
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: I follow the game, and I'm not talking about ex's

898
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: and o's, I'm looking at personalities. I see things that

899
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: other factors tell me why the Bengals may not be successful. Look,

900
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: this is a exhibit A. I don't think there's that

901
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: much of a difference in players from teammate to team B. Yeah,

902
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: it is somewhat better than others, but other than that,

903
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: if you make the pros, you're a pretty darn good player.

904
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: That's number one. The big key me in my mind,

905
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: the difference being the coaches leadership. What do I mean

906
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: by that? The other day I see Tour, the quarterback

907
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: of the Miami Dophins, at a postgame news conference saying,

908
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: the problem with the team is the fact that we

909
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: have little clicks and some of the players are not

910
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: attending team meetings and the coming late. Really, would that

911
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: ever ever happen on a Bill Belichick coach team would

912
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: never have up in Buffalo or Detroit with their coaches.

913
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: You know, there's no respect at the top. There's going

914
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: to be sloppiness at the bottom. Let me tell you

915
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: something to her. You lost that game. You had three

916
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: interceptions of that game, man up to it. How dare

917
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: you go up there at the news conference at point

918
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: fingers at teammates when you lost the game, you out

919
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 2: there and say it's on me? And I really believe

920
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: that the teams that are successful right now, Look at

921
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. You know, before their coaching change they

922
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: were downtrodden. They're a playoff contender right now. I look

923
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: at the teams that are really good and competitive. Are

924
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: the teams that have top notch guys in charge, not

925
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: just great play callers, great leaders.

926
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Agreed with you. Sean Payton May has made a world

927
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: of difference for the Broncos, great Dan Campbell. Before that,

928
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: how many years were the Lions just moribund and and

929
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: I really ridiculous. And in a major city in the US,

930
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: an NNFL franchise that had been in operation for decades,

931
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: the Lions, and they were always the joke of the

932
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: league until Dan Campbell came in.

933
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: You look at and look what happened in Tennessee. You

934
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: know your hometown. You know, they fired their coach the

935
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: other day. He had roots to the Bengals. He was

936
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: the Bengals offensive coordina. Obviously not a great leader, you know,

937
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: and obviously I wish him well. I don't see anybody

938
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: ever get fired. But the point is that they can't

939
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: do the job is the door, and obviously he could

940
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: do the job, but maybe it's because the lack of

941
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: leadership he worked under made him fail.

942
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: Perhaps, Well you look at at Miami. You were talking

943
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: about the two A press conference and saying, you know

944
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: that there's clicks on the team and not everybody makes

945
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: it to meetings or practice on time. And right when

946
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: they hired this offensive genius in Miami, did they hire

947
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: a leader or did they just hire an egghead who

948
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: had lots of good ideas on NFL offense. I think

949
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: it may have been the latter. You look at the

950
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: last couple of years and.

951
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: You look at look at Mike McDaniel. He looks like

952
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: a geek. He really does. I heard him on the

953
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: news conference after twist remarks, and he was just stammering

954
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: and stuttering it into what to say if I'm the owner,

955
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: if I'm the president of the team, if I'm the

956
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: general manager, and hear that there's the door, how do

957
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: you let that happen on you under your watch? I

958
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: mean he says it was taking out of contact, and

959
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: no it wasn't. He basically said that you could not

960
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: control the team. That's what he's saying. Really And obviously

961
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: if you look at this guy, he's probably he should

962
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: be a bean counter, not a head coach.

963
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: Well, you talk about he should do you talk about

964
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: the Titans Jettison Brian Callahan mid season they also got

965
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: rid of Mike Vrabel. But you know what, Mike Vrabel

966
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: has been stellar with the New England Patriots back Home

967
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: or one belongs, but.

968
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: He learned he's part of the Bill Belichip Tree, Yes,

969
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: that's why. But he was there's a connection, definitely a connection.

970
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: It really is. And if anybody can see that, they're

971
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: foolish and you've thought about the offensive line, and these

972
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: guys are not that bad. Okay, they're not playing well,

973
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: and that maybe because the leadership. I just don't think

974
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: there's that much of a difference between Team A and TV.

975
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: And then as the Football League with Alan, I really

976
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: don't think there is.

977
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think the Bengals have a

978
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett on defense, even if you include Hendrix.

979
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean those guys. You talk about hall

980
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: of famers and every team does not have a hall

981
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: of Fame.

982
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: No, and I agree with.

983
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: You, he's a hall of famer. But I think that

984
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: you take a team without a hall of famer on it.

985
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: I don't think there's that much of a difference between

986
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: Team A and TV. I really don't. It's coaching, it's leadership,

987
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: it's you know, guys on the New England Patriots will

988
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: be shaking in their boots to say something. But two

989
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: is said in a news conference when Belichick was coaching.

990
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: There's no way, There's no.

991
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: Way I think I think they'd be shaking in their

992
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: boots now that Vrabel's there, and oh, no doubt. And

993
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Rabel is a player's kind of coach. They all love him,

994
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: but he's a leader. I when when the Bengals hired

995
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, it was off of that off that Los

996
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams coaching staff.

997
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Ten people say who he never He never.

998
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: Had had head coaching experience anywhere coach, He was never

999
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: a coordinator. He didn't know how to lead men. He

1000
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: knew how to maybe instruct quarterbacks. He knows the game,

1001
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: but but it doesn't there's a there's a distinct difference.

1002
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: You are absolutely one correct for a ball there's.

1003
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: A let me ask you this or two of the questions. Yeah,

1004
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: if I know that, you know that you agree with me.

1005
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: How come general managers or presidents of ball clubs that

1006
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: interview potential coaching candidates don't know that. I want a

1007
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: guy with experience. It would be like if I want

1008
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: on a plane and the pilot is having his first flight,

1009
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm never get off. Really, I think away

1010
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: for the next one. I want an experienced guy.

1011
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: We're up in the air, we're getting back, We're getting

1012
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: back to something that I know is a touchy subject

1013
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: for you because you love Mike Brown and you know

1014
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: he kept the team in Cincinnati. But who is the

1015
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: general manager of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1016
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm not so certain Mike interviewed Zach Taylor. I don't

1017
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: know that.

1018
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: But who is who is the general manager?

1019
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 4: Well?

1020
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: I think that maybe Katie had something to do with

1021
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: that interview.

1022
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Well, okay, that that points the finger back to our

1023
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: original discussion, Andy, who is the leader of the Cincinnati Bengals?

1024
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: You don't know? They're leading by commitments, you know, and

1025
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: you have to have somebody in Tennessee. I'm beginning to

1026
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: believe the problem with the Titans is not the head coach,

1027
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: it's the front office because there's no leadership there. Mike

1028
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Vrabel couldn't win in Tennessee. And this guy, Brian cow Hand,

1029
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: who's not a leader. He's an offensive coordinator, maybe an

1030
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: NFL genius as far as designing offensive schemes and plots

1031
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: and plans and plays. But there is no leadership where

1032
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: there's no leadership in the front office. How many different

1033
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: general managers have the Cleveland Browns had?

1034
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: And there's right too, right, and there's another side to

1035
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: that coin too. You could be a meddling leader. And

1036
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: I say like that. I look at the Dallas Cowboys

1037
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: Jerry Jellones, He's in the locker room after every game,

1038
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: if every game, he goes into the player's locker room

1039
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: and is Michael Parsons deal. You know that that was

1040
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: a backbreaker. It really was, I mean hit for him

1041
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: to get involved and do what he did to that

1042
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: ball club. Right now, you don't think it broke that

1043
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: locker room in half. So there's a problem being a

1044
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: leader as far as leading in the right direction or

1045
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: just a meddling leader. There's two types of leaders.

1046
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Boy, I tell you what. Last night, I saw a

1047
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: leader on the sidelines for the Atlanta Falcons, they're head coach.

1048
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: I saw a leader there. And they had they had

1049
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo at home, and you know, the team that a

1050
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: lot of people are picking to be the Super Bowl

1051
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: representative from the AFC, the Buffalo Bills and the great

1052
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and they made them look really small last night.

1053
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree, and.

1054
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: There because there's leadership on the sidelines. The reason that

1055
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, year in and year out, no matter

1056
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: what kind of talent they had are always in the hunt.

1057
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs what two years in the last

1058
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen. They have a leader, Mike Tomlin. There's

1059
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: no question who the leader is. So who was the

1060
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: leader of the Cincinnati Bengals. It's certainly not Zach Taylor.

1061
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because of the off season,

1062
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 2: the media pointed a finger at Joe Burrow, and that's

1063
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: a sad state of affairs. When Joe Burrow basically was

1064
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: kind of making demands through the media as what this

1065
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: team should do. You know, they should sign to hit,

1066
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: they should re up Jamar Chase, they should do this. Okay,

1067
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: and they did, and I think they did at the

1068
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: advice or the whispers of Joe Burrow. Somebody left for

1069
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's protection. You know.

1070
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: I when when there was no actual leadership at the

1071
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: top of the organization, then there's a void and somebody

1072
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: has to fill it. Joe felt like he was pressed

1073
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: into a corner and had to fill that leadership role

1074
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: and use the media and and dictate what would go

1075
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: on when this team because there is nobody.

1076
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: On any other team. Have you looked have you ever

1077
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: seen Tom Brady when he played for the Patriots. And look,

1078
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: let's go back to the history of the Patriots. They

1079
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: may have had only one Hall of Fame receiver during

1080
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: his career, really, Randy Moss. I mean other than that

1081
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: the great receivers, you know, great players, but really truly

1082
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: no outstand Hall of Famer okay, no, no Jamar Chase

1083
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: on the New England Patriots. But you never heard Tom

1084
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: Brady go public and say I think the organizations should

1085
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: get this and never never play the game, get your

1086
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: paid check and go home. That's what they did in

1087
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: this town. It's like, you know, I want this. I

1088
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: think we better get this. You know enough, you know

1089
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm tired, and you know what, they got that and

1090
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: they still can't win. The last year you wt MVP numbers, Joe,

1091
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 2: and you're still going to make the playoffs. I mean,

1092
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: so like you say, and I say, I agreed as well.

1093
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: You know, let them so called geniuses who run this team,

1094
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: whoever runs the team, let them go on the drawing board,

1095
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: figure out what's needed, and then maybe he could put

1096
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: a winner on the field. Really, and I don't think

1097
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: one player should be that that important to have a

1098
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: winning season. I mean, I remember when the Miami Dolphins

1099
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: went down and Old Morrill came in. Who was that?

1100
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: Dan Marino got hurt and Old Marrill came in and

1101
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: took them to the super Bowl. I mean, you can

1102
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: win if you start player goes down, but not in Cincinnati.

1103
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: Was it Dan Marino or was it are are you going?

1104
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: Or are you going? Back to seventy two when Earl

1105
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: Morale came in and led him to the came in?

1106
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was right.

1107
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Marino he was playing in seventy two. No,

1108
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: he was, he was, and and.

1109
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: Well, okay it was it was Marino and Earl Morrell

1110
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: came in.

1111
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it was Marina and Earl Morral came in. And

1112
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: they still didn't win.

1113
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: But you know, there wasn't the point that the beat

1114
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: they really they really just skip a beat exactly.

1115
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: I In any organization, when there is a void of leadership,

1116
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: chaos usually ensues. You see it. You see it with countries,

1117
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: you see it in the NFL, you see it in

1118
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: in companies when there is.

1119
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: You know, you see it in the city of Cincinnati. Yes, absolutely,

1120
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean again, I heard the news this morning and

1121
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: again they said there was two shooting, two shootings in

1122
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: the Fountain Square last night, and it's terrible. It really

1123
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: is demoralizing to the city because that news gets out

1124
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: all over the country. But more than that, after that

1125
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: was announced, they had the mayor and it's the same

1126
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: old story. It's like, you know, we need to do this.

1127
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: It's discussing. It's kind of stuff. I don't want to

1128
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: hear that anymore. Do something about it. It's almost very similar.

1129
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: It's very similar, to be honest with you, if every

1130
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: Bangal's loss that kill us, that's the same thing. We

1131
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 2: got to get better. And I suggested to the people

1132
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: that run seven hundred WLW if every Bangals loss, just

1133
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: pull out any tape, because every tape sounds the same

1134
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: after every loss. We've got to get better. We've got

1135
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: to practice, we got we've gotta do this. We got

1136
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: to get better. He's been saying the same thing for

1137
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: three years now, We've got to get better, and the

1138
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: mayor of Cincinnati's saying the same thing. It's not right.

1139
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: We've got to stop now now. He wants to have

1140
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: a curfew earlier. You know, why don't you just like

1141
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: close the life at four in the afternoons and no

1142
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: one could come downtown at all. Why don't you kill

1143
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: all the businesses downtown?

1144
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: And they talk about root causes at a certain point,

1145
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: maybe the root causes you have tab Maybe you heard

1146
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: the root cause.

1147
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: He may get re elected. That's the sad news, all right.

1148
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: It is said. Let's let's let's take away one bright point,

1149
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: one possible bright point, please from me from the Bengals

1150
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: game against Green Bay on sum Catch three.

1151
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: Much improved that three days.

1152
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: With three days of learning the Bengals playbook and getting

1153
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: a playbook on the car ride down from Cleveland, Joe

1154
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: Flacco proved that he is a veteran quarterback and more

1155
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: than up to the challenges that are there as opposed

1156
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: to Jake Browning.

1157
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: Yes, well, there's all doubt in my mind. I mean,

1158
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: he's been there, done that, he's played the game. He

1159
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: knows what he's gotta do. Just throw the ball at

1160
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: Jamar and you'll get it done. But the funny thing

1161
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: is that you see the comments that Mike Tomlin made

1162
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: yesterday this news conference, and Mike never ever says anything

1163
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: about any any other team. He said that he was

1164
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: shocked that the Cleveland Browns let Joe Flacco go number one.

1165
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 2: How do you let a guy who started the season

1166
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: view as the number one quarterback? How do you have

1167
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: number one dump him and number two? How do you

1168
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: trade it to a same rival in the same division. Well,

1169
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: I mean it made a lot of sense, It really did.

1170
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: It makes the Browns looks really.

1171
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: Foolish because there's a common bond between the Cleveland Browns

1172
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: and the Cincinnati Bengals, lack of leadership at the top.

1173
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: And with that, we will close it out for a ball.

1174
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your.

1175
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: And you're the leader here, you're our leader.

1176
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: Well I think there's I don't think there's any question

1177
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: about that. I see you later, all right, I see

1178
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: you bye.