1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,520
Speaker 1: And let me just first of all, tell you what

2
00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,320
Speaker 1: we did today. I didn't even tell you what we're

3
00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,160
Speaker 1: doing today. So my brother's in town, and this was

4
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,000
Speaker 1: a trip that he had planned like months ago, and

5
00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,480
Speaker 1: he got in late Sunday night, and it just happened

6
00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,560
Speaker 1: to coincide with what happened last night at Timoma Park

7
00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,680
Speaker 1: in the Seahawk game and all that. So the plan

8
00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,799
Speaker 1: was that we were going to take this morning and

9
00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,040
Speaker 1: take Mom to go see dad's gravesite, which is just

10
00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,599
Speaker 1: up the hill on Queen Ann Hill. So imagine being

11
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:32,920
Speaker 1: me literally standing there over my father's gravesite hours after

12
00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,800
Speaker 1: the Marigers lost that game last night to the Blue Jays,

13
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,279
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this wasn't planned like this. It just

14
00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,360
Speaker 1: happened to work out like that, where this was the

15
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,440
Speaker 1: day that we're going to take Mom and get her

16
00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,600
Speaker 1: out of her place and take her up there to

17
00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680
Speaker 1: go pay our respects and YadA, YadA, YadA, and it

18
00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 1: happened to coincide with what happened last night.

19
00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,959
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna say this, and.

20
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't really have I don't think anything profound to say.

21
00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm actually kind of a little bit of a loss

22
00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,360
Speaker 2: for words.

23
00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,360
Speaker 1: But anything that you have to say, Dick or Jackson,

24
00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,880
Speaker 1: you have to say about the decisions that were made

25
00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,960
Speaker 1: in the game last night, the pitching decisions that were made.

26
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,479
Speaker 1: I know everybody's got a take on that, and I'm

27
00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,679
Speaker 1: telling you your take now may be your take tomorrow.

28
00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,080
Speaker 2: It may change in a month from now.

29
00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,840
Speaker 1: Right, all of us, I think, reserve the rights to

30
00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,240
Speaker 1: be emotional about this and totally change our mind. And

31
00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,560
Speaker 1: anything you say about bizarre no or leaving Brian in

32
00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,680
Speaker 1: there or yankin Kirby out all logical, all makes sense.

33
00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,160
Speaker 1: We could approach this from a thousand different ways. The

34
00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,840
Speaker 1: overwhelming emotion that I have right now and the number

35
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,000
Speaker 1: one topic, if you will, on my mind and in my.

36
00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,200
Speaker 2: Brain, is just absolute, profound sadness.

37
00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,200
Speaker 1: I cannot believe what we saw last night to be

38
00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,400
Speaker 1: that close to.

39
00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,240
Speaker 2: A dream becoming reality.

40
00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,200
Speaker 1: We could feel it, we could taste it, we could

41
00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,880
Speaker 1: smell it. I looked at you, and I think you

42
00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960
Speaker 1: may have even told me, I'm not all this is

43
00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,880
Speaker 1: kind of running together, Dick. Dick and I were Jimmie's

44
00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,400
Speaker 1: last night watching the game. He made it into the

45
00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,919
Speaker 1: Seahawk game.

46
00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,160
Speaker 3: Is that right after the Springer home and I went

47
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,320
Speaker 3: to that.

48
00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,919
Speaker 4: I was not leaving until vibes changed, and as long

49
00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,680
Speaker 4: as vibes were good, I was staying in the same

50
00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,440
Speaker 4: damn seat that I'd sat in for five hours in

51
00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:25,760
Speaker 4: a row.

52
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,919
Speaker 2: Well, I never made it in last night to Luman.

53
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,400
Speaker 1: I watched the game when I got home, but I

54
00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,080
Speaker 1: wasn't watching the game, if you know what I'm talking about, right, Like,

55
00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,120
Speaker 1: I saw this thing with Jasn and the referee on

56
00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,079
Speaker 1: the bench last time.

57
00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,080
Speaker 2: I did that really happen? Or is that Ai.

58
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:40,799
Speaker 3: Right in front of me?

59
00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,120
Speaker 4: Really?

60
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,760
Speaker 1: So I thought it was a joke when I first

61
00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,040
Speaker 1: saw it. Okay, So I was watching the game, but

62
00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't watching it. I just I just wasted. I

63
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,560
Speaker 1: wasted a pair of tickets for the Monday game, never

64
00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,280
Speaker 1: even went in. Just wanted to get the hell home

65
00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,640
Speaker 1: and get out of there. But I remember looking at

66
00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,440
Speaker 1: you and I think, I think you may have said

67
00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,040
Speaker 1: to me, and there's a chance, I imagine this. If

68
00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,840
Speaker 1: he can get Hemistip Bregmant again, if he can get

69
00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Springer right here, we're gonna win this game.

70
00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720
Speaker 2: This is the moment. And that's the moment.

71
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,520
Speaker 1: Where I honestly allowed myself for about fifteen seconds to

72
00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,400
Speaker 1: think about what I was gonna do when this thing ended?

73
00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,200
Speaker 1: Am I gonna run down Occidental? Am I gonna run

74
00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,120
Speaker 1: into lumen Field and party with seventy thousand people in there?

75
00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,120
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? And then bang? Everything just

76
00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:26,880
Speaker 2: slipped away.

77
00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,520
Speaker 1: We could taste it, guys, we could absolutely taste it.

78
00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,560
Speaker 1: We could feel it, we could touch it, we could

79
00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,680
Speaker 1: smell it. The closest we've ever been after a fifty

80
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,120
Speaker 1: year wait. And look, we're gonna eventually debate and probably

81
00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,960
Speaker 1: even rank at some point in time where this falls

82
00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,560
Speaker 1: on the list. Right now, the way I feel this morning,

83
00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,160
Speaker 1: and it might be raw, and maybe I'm living in

84
00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,440
Speaker 1: the moment.

85
00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,880
Speaker 2: You always accuse me of recency bias. This is number one.

86
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,720
Speaker 1: It's absolutely number one for me because of just the

87
00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,120
Speaker 1: absolute sadness that I feel right now. I am. I

88
00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,880
Speaker 1: feel like I'm depressed. After what happened yesterday, the Sonic

89
00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,080
Speaker 1: thing in ninety four, I was just angry, like I

90
00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,360
Speaker 1: wanted somebody fired. After what happened in ninety four, the

91
00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and one Alcs. Let's face it, we fall

92
00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,440
Speaker 1: down two to Oh. Hope is lost pretty quickly in

93
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,839
Speaker 1: that series. But You're eight outs away from a dream

94
00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479
Speaker 1: being realized, a dream that no matter who you are,

95
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520
Speaker 1: no matter what college team you root for, in this town,

96
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,520
Speaker 1: no matter what political party you subscribe to, everybody has

97
00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,520
Speaker 1: shared a dream together for.

98
00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,960
Speaker 2: Forty nine years in this town.

99
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,040
Speaker 1: And it slipped through our fingers at the worst possible

100
00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,599
Speaker 1: time yesterday at about god, what time did this all happen?

101
00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,880
Speaker 2: Like seven thirty or so? You thing seven forty five?

102
00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,400
Speaker 1: Yesterday at seven thirty seven forty five was the biggest

103
00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,080
Speaker 1: gut punch I've ever taken in my life as a

104
00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,880
Speaker 1: sportsman ever. And I remember being in the Seahawk locker room.

105
00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,240
Speaker 1: I think you may have been there to Dick in

106
00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,800
Speaker 1: Detroit after the game with the Steelers, and I have

107
00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,640
Speaker 1: these vivid memories of talking to Grant Wistrom twenty years ago,

108
00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,720
Speaker 1: and he looks at me because he knew what it

109
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,240
Speaker 1: was like to lose one, because he lost one with

110
00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,360
Speaker 1: the Rams, And he looked at me and he said,

111
00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,279
Speaker 1: the worst thing about this is now we get to

112
00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,839
Speaker 1: go back to the beginning and start all over again.

113
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,520
Speaker 1: And that's the worst thing for me. I remember sitting

114
00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,640
Speaker 1: there in that locker room. I remember talking to Mike

115
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Gastineau and Pat Haller at Duke's on Queen Anne. It's

116
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760
Speaker 1: now Buckley's. It was Dukes back then after the ninety

117
00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,280
Speaker 1: five season, was over thinking, We're going to the World

118
00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,480
Speaker 1: Series next year. We got a Rod, we got Griffy,

119
00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,440
Speaker 1: we got Buner, we got Randy, we got Lou And

120
00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,840
Speaker 1: here we are thirty years later, and we're still everig

121
00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,000
Speaker 1: waiting thirty years later for it to happen. So I

122
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,200
Speaker 1: go in between. I go in between the anger, the frustration.

123
00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,320
Speaker 1: I want to rip somebody, I want to point fingers,

124
00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,880
Speaker 1: I want to be angry at people, and I just honestly,

125
00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,239
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the same emotional spot, which

126
00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,680
Speaker 1: is just absolute sadness. I was talking to Andrews about

127
00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,120
Speaker 1: this this morning. Fifty two years old. I'm driving home

128
00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,760
Speaker 1: bawl my eyes out like I'm ten years old.

129
00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

130
00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,400
Speaker 1: Couldn't believe it, could not believe how much I had

131
00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,200
Speaker 1: a problem with what happened last night.

132
00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,479
Speaker 2: And I had to check myself.

133
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:20,839
Speaker 5: Dude.

134
00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,360
Speaker 1: I had to actually tell myself, dude, you're fifty two

135
00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,200
Speaker 1: years old. Why are you allowing these things to impact

136
00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,240
Speaker 1: you so much? And I guess that's just kind of

137
00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,719
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. Maybe I shouldn't let this

138
00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,000
Speaker 1: impact me so much. Maybe none of us should really

139
00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,440
Speaker 1: allow any of this to have this kind of impact

140
00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,120
Speaker 1: on our lives because there's nothing we can do about it.

141
00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,560
Speaker 1: We have no effect, no impact, no say, no nothing

142
00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000
Speaker 1: over any of this. We live and die by the

143
00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,279
Speaker 1: actions of others and the accomplishments of others.

144
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960
Speaker 2: That is the epitome of being a sports fan.

145
00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,880
Speaker 1: And if we're going to continue doing this, then we

146
00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,200
Speaker 1: got to admit that nights like last night are going

147
00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,800
Speaker 1: to be possible again and again and again and again,

148
00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,960
Speaker 1: not just what the Mariners Dick, but with any team

149
00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,600
Speaker 1: that we root for.

150
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,520
Speaker 2: And that we love.

151
00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,480
Speaker 1: And I just don't know when last night is gonna

152
00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,280
Speaker 1: happen again. I don't know when we're gonna be in

153
00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 1: that position again. I'm hoping it's very soon. I do

154
00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,600
Speaker 1: think the Mariners are building something that could sustain itself.

155
00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:17,800
Speaker 3: For a while.

156
00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,040
Speaker 2: But you never know.

157
00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,440
Speaker 1: We talked about this in the pregame, did we not.

158
00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,760
Speaker 1: You never know when the American League is going to

159
00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080
Speaker 1: be this wide open. You never know when you're gonna

160
00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,200
Speaker 1: have two guys like Suarez and Naylor at the deadline,

161
00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,640
Speaker 1: come help out your baseball team. And you never know

162
00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,600
Speaker 1: when you're gonna have a year like you just got

163
00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,160
Speaker 1: from cal Rawley. You never know when these things are

164
00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. So for me, it's the not knowing and

165
00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,040
Speaker 1: the idea that it was there and now it's gone

166
00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,480
Speaker 1: and you never know if it's ever coming back.

167
00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,280
Speaker 2: That is what is breaking my frickin' heart.

168
00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,520
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry for all of us, man, I'm I'm

169
00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,440
Speaker 1: most sorry for the fans, I really am. I know

170
00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people say the players, Hey, look the players, man,

171
00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 1: players are more like gold fish than we are. They'll

172
00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,280
Speaker 1: get over this, they'll move on, they'll go to spring training,

173
00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,400
Speaker 1: they'll sign contracts with other teams, right, they'll get traded,

174
00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,440
Speaker 1: they'll have other things to do. But the only consistent

175
00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,800
Speaker 1: thing about this sport, and it's not even the team,

176
00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,320
Speaker 1: because we know teams can move. We saw that with

177
00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,920
Speaker 1: our beloved Sonics. The only consistent thing, guys is us

178
00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 1: is the fans. We're the only ones that stay. We're

179
00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440
Speaker 1: the only ones that aren't going anywhere, and so we

180
00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,079
Speaker 1: are the ones that eventually will have to wear this

181
00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,640
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives and this is the

182
00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,440
Speaker 1: worst scar today. And again, maybe I'll change my mind

183
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,160
Speaker 1: Dick tomorrow, but for me, where I'm sitting right now,

184
00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,600
Speaker 1: the absolute unbelievable sadness that I feel in my heart

185
00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,800
Speaker 1: after what happened last night is the biggest scar that

186
00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,719
Speaker 1: I've ever ever ever felt as a sportsman.

187
00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,320
Speaker 2: And it effing sucks. It sucks right now.

188
00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:58,600
Speaker 6: Man.

189
00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,120
Speaker 4: So sorry, Well, first of all, you don't have to

190
00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,280
Speaker 4: be sorry, and you don't have to check yourself, because

191
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,480
Speaker 4: this is the reason that you're so beloved in this city.

192
00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,400
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be perfectly honest with you. I mean,

193
00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,200
Speaker 4: this is why, because there is not a sports fan

194
00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,040
Speaker 4: out there listening to this radio show that cares more

195
00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,360
Speaker 4: than you do. And so you're just being honest with everybody.

196
00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,400
Speaker 4: And that's all you can be is honest with everybody.

197
00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,720
Speaker 2: I know that everyone. I'm not alone in that regardless.

198
00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:29,400
Speaker 3: I understand that.

199
00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:29,839
Speaker 2: I know that.

200
00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,880
Speaker 4: But I mean to watch you last night and that

201
00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,000
Speaker 4: kind of let the Jackson. I know you weren't there,

202
00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,240
Speaker 4: but I mean we had this kind of unspoken thing.

203
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,400
Speaker 4: I was sitting, Softie was pacing the whole night like

204
00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,680
Speaker 4: he was never sitting during the game. He's pacing, and

205
00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,360
Speaker 4: every once in a while we'd get done with an

206
00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360
Speaker 4: inning and we'd just look at each other and we'd

207
00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,440
Speaker 4: flash twelve. We had twelve outs left, and then we'd

208
00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,040
Speaker 4: flash nine at each other. We had nine outs left,

209
00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,520
Speaker 4: and it was just like and that's all the communication

210
00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,240
Speaker 4: that there was, but just to watch him like the

211
00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,440
Speaker 4: combination of stress.

212
00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640
Speaker 3: But hope. I mean it was, you know, it was

213
00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,040
Speaker 3: palpable in that place.

214
00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,240
Speaker 4: But for me, my emotions have kind of changed over

215
00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,240
Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours.

216
00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:09,800
Speaker 3: They went from it.

217
00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,240
Speaker 4: I was angry after the game, and I'm now more

218
00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,480
Speaker 4: of that kind I feel that nineteen ninety four to

219
00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,400
Speaker 4: Kemby Mutumbo holding the ball thing again where I just

220
00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,280
Speaker 4: feel sick. I woke up literally feeling sick to my

221
00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 4: stomach this month. Yeah, I woke up like, God, did

222
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,000
Speaker 4: I eat something?

223
00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:28,760
Speaker 6: I did?

224
00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720
Speaker 4: I have forty seven margaritas that I didn't remember having,

225
00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,720
Speaker 4: Like what the hell happened to me? But then I

226
00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,360
Speaker 4: just go back and think at all the missed opportunities

227
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,960
Speaker 4: during this playoff stretch. I didn't like how the pitching,

228
00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,959
Speaker 4: the starting pitching staff rotation was handled in the Detroit series,

229
00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,400
Speaker 4: but guess what we won the series anyway. In spite

230
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,720
Speaker 4: of that, I didn't like how the starting pitching rotation

231
00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,920
Speaker 4: was handled in the.

232
00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,600
Speaker 3: First three or four games of this series.

233
00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,679
Speaker 4: But you know what, we got to Game seven, we

234
00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,120
Speaker 4: were able to overcome. I didn't like the fact that

235
00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,240
Speaker 4: we didn't show up for three and a half games

236
00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:08,280
Speaker 4: in a row, Games three, four, and six in their entirety,

237
00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,959
Speaker 4: and Game five until the eighth inning we.

238
00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,199
Speaker 3: Got completely outplayed.

239
00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,200
Speaker 4: I was happy that they showed up last night, but

240
00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,520
Speaker 4: you can I didn't like Kirby Is getting pulled as

241
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,920
Speaker 4: early as he did. I didn't like wu getting pulled

242
00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520
Speaker 4: as early as he did. But the but the absolute

243
00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,120
Speaker 4: damning moment of that game. And I had the weirdest

244
00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,960
Speaker 4: analogy last night that Steve still keeps coming into my head.

245
00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,520
Speaker 4: Second and third with George Springer at the plate is

246
00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,720
Speaker 4: like leaving a baby.

247
00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,480
Speaker 3: In a stroller on the freeway.

248
00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:47,160
Speaker 4: And you know that, hey, maybe if you put Springer

249
00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 4: on something bad happens, But you gotta take the.

250
00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,479
Speaker 3: Baby off the freeway.

251
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,480
Speaker 4: You have to take him off the He may not

252
00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,240
Speaker 4: do well on the sidewalk, but you gotta take him

253
00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,120
Speaker 4: off the freeway. And that was just the Bazar analogy

254
00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,800
Speaker 4: I had going through my head last night.

255
00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,480
Speaker 3: They just left the baby on the freeway.

256
00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's very graphic, it is, and very scary to

257
00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,960
Speaker 1: hear a baby on the freeway. I will say this

258
00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,280
Speaker 1: that that baby, if he was left on the freeway,

259
00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,199
Speaker 1: was surrounded potentially by cement pillars because he was on

260
00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,839
Speaker 1: one leg last night. And honestly, I am literally forgetting

261
00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,599
Speaker 1: what I said to you on the year and what

262
00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,400
Speaker 1: I said to you off.

263
00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,480
Speaker 2: The ear yesterday. I understand.

264
00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,319
Speaker 1: Do you remember we talked to each other about George

265
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,160
Speaker 1: Springer and is he going to have a Kurt Gibson

266
00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:30,720
Speaker 1: moment tonight?

267
00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,400
Speaker 2: Remember that?

268
00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked at Dick and again this may have

269
00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,520
Speaker 1: been off the air, and I said, after what Brian

270
00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,839
Speaker 1: Woo did to him, hit him in the kneecap, is

271
00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,160
Speaker 1: he going to come back to screw us?

272
00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,280
Speaker 2: Is this going to be a Kurt Gibson? And damn it,

273
00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:43,560
Speaker 2: it was.

274
00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:44,280
Speaker 7: You see it coming.

275
00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,320
Speaker 1: You could absolutely see the sports gods creating this drama

276
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,720
Speaker 1: where George Springer ends up being the hero.

277
00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,400
Speaker 2: And look, I get it.

278
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,240
Speaker 1: You know, Munno's is available, Brash is available, Luis Castillo

279
00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,720
Speaker 1: is available, Bryce Miller is available. I do wonder though,

280
00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,200
Speaker 1: in an alternate universe if Bizardo gets it done.

281
00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,760
Speaker 2: Because it was just a mistake. The pitch was not executed.

282
00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Adam Jude did a great job breaking it

283
00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920
Speaker 1: down in his column today and the Times that the

284
00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,960
Speaker 1: pitch was you can argue the right one. He just

285
00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,720
Speaker 1: didn't get it done. If he gets it done and

286
00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,280
Speaker 1: he does execute that pitch and we're sitting here going

287
00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,920
Speaker 1: to the World Series, one of the storylines is gonna

288
00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,120
Speaker 1: be Thank God for Edward Bizardo. Where would these guys

289
00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,000
Speaker 1: be without him? Where would they be without the mop

290
00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,679
Speaker 1: turning into the man? So right now, I don't have

291
00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,440
Speaker 1: a lot of anger towards Dan Wilson for going with

292
00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,960
Speaker 1: Bizardo there and the seventh inning I did last night,

293
00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,040
Speaker 1: I did this morning.

294
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,480
Speaker 2: Right now I don't and maybe tomorrow I will change. Yeah,

295
00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,079
Speaker 2: I'm just.

296
00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,960
Speaker 1: Overwhelmed and overcome the whole thing. Jackson is just covered

297
00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,120
Speaker 1: in sadness, and that's where I'm coming from.

298
00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,120
Speaker 8: Last night was interesting for me. You guys know, my

299
00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,200
Speaker 8: wife's a therapist and we spent a lot of time. Yeah,

300
00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,520
Speaker 8: after the game, we talked about kind of you know

301
00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,080
Speaker 8: what the next week's gonna be like, you know, I

302
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,040
Speaker 8: was kind of talking to her like like, you probably

303
00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,920
Speaker 8: know what I said. You probably know what I'm about

304
00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,199
Speaker 8: to go through over the next few days better than

305
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:10,520
Speaker 8: I do.

306
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,760
Speaker 7: So we kind of talked through it.

307
00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,400
Speaker 8: And She's like, the whole five stages of grief and

308
00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,560
Speaker 8: the whole element of you one to the other to

309
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,520
Speaker 8: the other, that's that doesn't exactly apply here. You are

310
00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,560
Speaker 8: going to morph from stage to stage, given the moment,

311
00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,720
Speaker 8: given the hour, given the conversation. And it kind of

312
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,280
Speaker 8: opened my eyes to this element of, hey, we and

313
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,840
Speaker 8: you know this could I think goes for each of us.

314
00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,200
Speaker 8: We shouldn't be having to feel a certain way. We

315
00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,280
Speaker 8: should be able to just drift from feelings of anger

316
00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,600
Speaker 8: to feelings to bar I mean the bargaining right now,

317
00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,840
Speaker 8: we're talking about if we had done this, the anger

318
00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,760
Speaker 8: at Dan Wilson, if we had done that, you know,

319
00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,240
Speaker 8: that's the element of bargaining, the denial of of oh

320
00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,360
Speaker 8: my gosh, are we really gonna have to go back

321
00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,080
Speaker 8: to the start the depression. That clearly the element of

322
00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,520
Speaker 8: waking up feelings sick in that sadness. We're morphing from

323
00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,680
Speaker 8: stage to stage, and I think for all Marin Heer fans.

324
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,040
Speaker 8: We don't have to go through a certain cycle to

325
00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,320
Speaker 8: acceptance feel the way we're going to feel, because it's

326
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,880
Speaker 8: going to be an off season of all of these

327
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,440
Speaker 8: different emotions, and we'll jump from one to the other.

328
00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,440
Speaker 8: Right now, I am freaking pissed off at Dan Wilson

329
00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880
Speaker 8: in a stage of anger, but I'll probably go backwards

330
00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,520
Speaker 8: to bargaining and I'll make my way eventually to depression.

331
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,440
Speaker 7: We're all going to morph from state and it's just.

332
00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,320
Speaker 8: Gonna be sucky for a long time because there's no

333
00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440
Speaker 8: other place to be than suckitude until we get another

334
00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,400
Speaker 8: shot at this damn thing.

335
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, this is kind of and I'm really curious to

336
00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,040
Speaker 1: see how we feel in April. Well, we go to

337
00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,880
Speaker 1: T Mobile Park. Oh boy, and they raised that division banner.

338
00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,360
Speaker 1: Oh remember that conversation we have. Yeah, and I told

339
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,120
Speaker 1: you guys that I would have done it before a

340
00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,160
Speaker 1: game one of the playoffs.

341
00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,680
Speaker 2: Everybody's in a good mood.

342
00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,160
Speaker 1: You haven't lost yet, you haven't kicked it yet, nothing's

343
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,440
Speaker 1: happened bad. Everyone's happy in this moment. Let's take advantage

344
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,840
Speaker 1: of the window and let's throw the division banner up

345
00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,520
Speaker 1: right now and now we're gonna have to go over

346
00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,280
Speaker 1: there in April. Not have to, but you know, you

347
00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,040
Speaker 1: get it and see that thing rise, and I don't

348
00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:07,440
Speaker 1: know how.

349
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to feel. I don't know how any of

350
00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,080
Speaker 2: us are going to feel on that day.

351
00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,440
Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday, that one of these teams

352
00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,520
Speaker 1: is going to have a hero, and the hero for

353
00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,280
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays was George Springer.

354
00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,520
Speaker 2: You know what we get.

355
00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,440
Speaker 1: We get to see that home run over and over

356
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,440
Speaker 1: and over again. That's what we get to see, just

357
00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,440
Speaker 1: like you go to an NBC pregame show on Sunday

358
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,080
Speaker 1: night and you see Malcolm Butler, you see to Kem

359
00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,320
Speaker 1: and Mtumbo thirty years later with the ball over his

360
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,720
Speaker 1: head laying on the Colosseum floor.

361
00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,840
Speaker 3: It's always us, isn't it.

362
00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,040
Speaker 1: It's always us. And now we get to see George

363
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,400
Speaker 1: Springer with a three run home run to give the

364
00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,400
Speaker 1: Blue Jays one of their greatest moments in franchise history.

365
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 1: And what you just said right there, Dick, the empty

366
00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,520
Speaker 1: feeling that we are left with now as Marina fans

367
00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,560
Speaker 1: is kind of usually what we're always left with as

368
00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,760
Speaker 1: Marina fans. And somebody asked me last night what are

369
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,360
Speaker 1: we supposed to do now, Well, we do what we've

370
00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,000
Speaker 1: always done.

371
00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,160
Speaker 2: We just keep waiting.

372
00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,000
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to do, nothing else to do. He

373
00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,000
Speaker 1: just keep waiting. And you want to jump off the wagon,

374
00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,920
Speaker 1: go for it. You want to pick a new team

375
00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,440
Speaker 1: to root for, go for it. You can't stand it anymore.

376
00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,480
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, this is a half a

377
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,120
Speaker 1: century that we've been waiting for this. Now, this isn't

378
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,719
Speaker 1: ten years, this is a half. This is a lifetime

379
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800
Speaker 1: that we've been waiting for this. People asking me why

380
00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 1: was this so important to you?

381
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,439
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

382
00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:23,960
Speaker 9: Like?

383
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,719
Speaker 1: Really, like you need to know the context. You know

384
00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,320
Speaker 1: the context. You're a kid. Baseball's every day during the

385
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,520
Speaker 1: summer when you're not doing anything, and all you're doing

386
00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,800
Speaker 1: is watching baseball for three months in June, July and

387
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960
Speaker 1: August every single day. Your first love for a lot

388
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 1: of us was baseball. And then let's go ahead and

389
00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 1: combine that with the fact that we've waited fifty years,

390
00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 1: and let's go ahead and combine that with the idea

391
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,560
Speaker 1: that this franchise has basically made us to believe from

392
00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,920
Speaker 1: a very young age that the World Series is impossible

393
00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 1: for us because of the way that they've behaved on

394
00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,920
Speaker 1: the field off the field, and their track record of success.

395
00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,800
Speaker 1: And now we get to go back and see that

396
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,960
Speaker 1: run again. And now we get to go back and

397
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 1: look at a list again today that everybody is sending

398
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,600
Speaker 1: out that says Seattle Mariners last World Series Never. We

399
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 1: still live in that reality and we were so close

400
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,280
Speaker 1: to that reality changing last night, and it makes me sick.

401
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,399
Speaker 2: Sick.

402
00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you, sick that it didn't happen. We'll get

403
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,359
Speaker 1: a break, we get some phone calls. If you want

404
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 1: two age six ninety five, ninety five, you want to

405
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,280
Speaker 1: jump on and vent, have at it, text messages, have

406
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 1: at it.

407
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 2: Larry Stone's going to share his thoughts too. At three on.

408
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 1: Ninety three to three KJRFM, you're listening to a special

409
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 1: crack in Game Day where you could win a dream

410
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,360
Speaker 1: trip to Tokyo by donating blood today.

411
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,639
Speaker 5: For all the details, log on to BLOODWORKSNW dot org

412
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,680
Speaker 5: slash win.

413
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 2: Now back to SAFTI and Dick.

414
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,439
Speaker 7: Brian was throwing the ball so well.

415
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 9: You know, first of all, Georgie I thought through the

416
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 9: ball excellent, and then Brian picked up right where George

417
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 9: left off. And you know gave us a good spot

418
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,240
Speaker 9: to be in and and you know, after the walk,

419
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 9: you know, hoping to get the ground ball, which we did,

420
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 9: but it just found a hole and then you know

421
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 9: knew it was going to bunt there. And and you know,

422
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 9: Bizarto has been the guy that's that's gotten us through

423
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 9: those situations, those tight ones, especially in the pivot role.

424
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 9: And you know that's that's where we were going at

425
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 9: that point.

426
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 1: A huge bomber, huge, huge bomber last night, uh in Toronto,

427
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 1: no question about it.

428
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what it compounds it a little.

429
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 1: Bit for me, losing to those bastards in Toronto. I

430
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: got a good dose of what they are all about.

431
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 1: We all ready kind of knew that we were annoyed

432
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,719
Speaker 1: by them with how many fans like to show up

433
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 1: in our ballpark. Ask Andrews about what it was like

434
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: for him in center field during that series.

435
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 2: Did you talk to Andrews about that? By the way,

436
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 2: I haven't. Oh he's got video the whole thing. Get assaulted?

437
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: He did?

438
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 6: He did?

439
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I did hear about that?

440
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 10: Yes?

441
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 3: So they summer chat wagon, right, They are a They.

442
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: Are an unruly bunch that I I I actually texted

443
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: Blake Snell this morning and I said, do me a favor,

444
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 1: kick their ass. I have no desire to see Toronto

445
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: win the World Series. So I don't know how much

446
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm even gonna watch the series. But when I watch,

447
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a big Dodger fan. I don't think

448
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,120
Speaker 1: you'll be watching much. I don't knowing you knowing us,

449
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll be watching much. Factor fiction brought

450
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: to you by the Lucky Eagle Casino in a hotel.

451
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: Dick has the pick in a matter of minutes. Let's

452
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,479
Speaker 1: go to the phone lines. Guys, just jump on and

453
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 1: I just go share your thoughts, James and Edmunds.

454
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: James, you're on the air. What's happening?

455
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 6: Man?

456
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, just yeah, this is one of those things

457
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 10: her minds.

458
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 11: You just how.

459
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 10: Dangerous of a business, you know, being a sports fan

460
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 10: can be.

461
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 1: You know it?

462
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 10: Just so I was just, you know, my.

463
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 11: Eleven year old daughter, she liked basketball and HUNTSU. I'm

464
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 11: more of a football and baseball guy. We never really

465
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 11: watched sports together. And this kind of postseason we started

466
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 11: watching baseball together. And she's been talking about it with

467
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 11: her friends at school and and uh, you know, last

468
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 11: night I was I was working, I worked from.

469
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 10: Home and kind of had the game on the monitor

470
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 10: as I was working a little bit and started watching

471
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 10: paying more attention to the game, and my daughter joined

472
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 10: me and and they you know, slowly like the Manners

473
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 10: team that he's playing, you know, a big game, and

474
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 10: and it was just so great to see her excitement.

475
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 10: And I was kind of, you know, pointing out real

476
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 10: things about the game to her, and I was like, oh,

477
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 10: this is what this means, and and and then you know,

478
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 10: it's and then it's you know, it's one to one,

479
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 10: and it's two to one, and yeah the Ralley Hole

480
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 10: run three to one. And then she's looking.

481
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: At you know what, James just sound just like Loopanela.

482
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: Well, it was won to one and then we took

483
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: the leader and then we gave it back. Yeah, James,

484
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: I get James. I'm gonna let you go because we've

485
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: gotta grab some more calls here. But I totally get it, man.

486
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: I mean, like everybody wants to you know, vent a

487
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: little bit here. But the point that that I'm taking

488
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: from James's call is that, like I'm I'm never gonna

489
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: have this chance of my dad, Your dad's how old now?

490
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: And let's hope that you do. Okay, Yeah, but that

491
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: was the shot man.

492
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: Of course, for other people out there, like James, who

493
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: never got that shot with what maybe James's dad's still around,

494
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: I should not assume that you want to be able

495
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: to share these things with people and you never know

496
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: when they're coming back, and it scares.

497
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 2: The hell out.

498
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 8: So yeah, really quick, James on hold was a lot

499
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 8: more succintive that The thing I wanted to get across

500
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 8: that he said on hold of me was that watching

501
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 8: the game with my daughter, we found a new level

502
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 8: of our relationship by watching baseball and seeing.

503
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 7: The disappline on her face was unlike anything this time.

504
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 7: That's yeah, this is.

505
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: The first time my daughter has ever watched baseball, yeah,

506
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: at all, and she got into these playoffs and she

507
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 4: watched every pitch.

508
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: This is why I kept telling you guys, this is different.

509
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: This is different than the NFL because it's every freaking day, like,

510
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: aren't you guys exhausted after what we just went through.

511
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: Exhausted every single damn night, the up and down, the

512
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: roller coaster, the upper cuts, Get on the mat, get

513
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: off the mat.

514
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: You're back on the mat, you're back in the ring.

515
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: It's exhausting, and that's why it's so different than any

516
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: other sport out there.

517
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 2: Imagine if the NFC Championship.

518
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Was played a quarter for four days in a row,

519
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: how you'd feel about that, and there was a break

520
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: in between, and two of the quarters were in somebody

521
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: else's park.

522
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: It's nuts. All right, let's get the Factor fiction right now?

523
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: Where's that to go?

524
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 5: Glad you're with us, it's your shot at our weekly

525
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 5: thousand bucks and the ten thousand dollars grand prize. It's

526
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 5: Fact Door Fiction, probably presented by Lucky Eagle Casino and

527
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 5: hotel where every day feels lucky. Fact Door Fiction is

528
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 5: on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR.

529
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: Alright, we're gonna grab more calls next segment.

530
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: We're hanging out till three twenty before the Kraken coming

531
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: up today at the Capitols pregame three thirty faced off

532
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: at four in for Ian Furness. Everybody on hold, stay

533
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: with us. We'll have more group of therapy next segment.

534
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: But that's Tuesday. It's Dick day. Factor fiction. What do

535
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: you got? Very simple? The Chicago Bears are four and two.

536
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I do not believe they are four and two football team.

537
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens are one and five. I do not

538
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: believe the Baltimore Ravens are a one and five football team.

539
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: They're getting healthier, and they absolutely have to win this

540
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: game at home. Give me the Ravens minus six and

541
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: a half against the Chicago Ravens minus the points against Chicago.

542
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: You like it, fact, you hate it? Fiction to four

543
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: nine four five one. Jackson has a very skeptical look.

544
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 7: Dick, are you aware of Lamar Jackson?

545
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Is he is?

546
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 6: He's not?

547
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: We don't know for sure.

548
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 7: You have watched their backup right.

549
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 8: I watch these guys worse than Nathan Peter.

550
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: I am betting on the cum.

551
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: I'm betting on the cum that Lamar Jackson's gonna give

552
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 4: it a go because he has to give it a go.

553
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: See, I think this.

554
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: I think Dick is smart here because if we don't

555
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: get this pick correct, none of us are gonna care.

556
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: Because we're all just covered in sadness.

557
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: It's just gonna get put underneath the big third pile.

558
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: Hey, we're one in zero on the week already, because

559
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 4: Softy nailed the Seahawks yesterday how about that.

560
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for the laugh, Jackson. By the way, I

561
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: needed that.

562
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: To thirty seven Ravens minus the points Factor Fiction to

563
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: four nine four five one brought to you by Lucky

564
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: Egle Casino in hotel where every day feels lucky. We're

565
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: going twenty four every Friday and Saturday. Twenty four hour

566
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: gaming starts November seventh at Luckyeagle dot com.

567
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: We're gonna break phone calls. Everyone's on hold.

568
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: We'll try and kind of condense our thoughts if we

569
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: can a little bit on the phone lines. Guys, you

570
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: know we're getting after here, and everybody jump on share

571
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts so we'll get somebody else on. That's the

572
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: way this works here with phone calls go. Group therapy

573
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: continues and then Larry stone Man, what a day to

574
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: have him on. He will join us at three on

575
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: ninety three three KJRFM.

576
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 5: You're listening to a special cracking game day where you

577
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 5: could win a dream trip to Tokyo by donating blood today.

578
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: For all the details, log on to Blood works NW

579
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 5: dot org. Slash win Now back to.

580
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 12: Soft super Proud of these guys. It was a great

581
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 12: team effort. You know, I hate to use the word failure,

582
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 12: But it's a failure.

583
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what.

584
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 12: We expected just to get to a World Series, win

585
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 12: World Series, and that's you know what the bar is

586
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 12: and the standard is, and you know that's what we

587
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 12: want to hold ourselves accountable.

588
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: To the voice of cal Raley.

589
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 5: You know.

590
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: Look, I mean it's possible that you know, as Humanland

591
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: likes to say, two truths can exist at one time. Right,

592
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: But it was a great season that ended in massive,

593
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: massive disappointment. And what will you take away from this year?

594
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: Do you take away the run? Do you take away

595
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: being close close as you've ever been? Or do you

596
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: take away the heartbreak? And right now I take away

597
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: the heartbreak. Right now, I take away the sadness of

598
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: that game last night.

599
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 4: Man, No, I agree, And I mean you think back we

600
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 4: lost in all those other years too, and we think

601
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: fondly about ninety five, we think fondly about two thousand.

602
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: I don't think as fondly about two thousand and one

603
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: because we were the favorites to.

604
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: Win the whole damn thing and we didn't even go

605
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: to the World Series.

606
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna I think I'm gonna end up thinking

607
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: more fondly about this season than I even did of

608
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: two thousand and one.

609
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: Chris is in wes Sattle.

610
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Chris here on the air, grab a seat on the couch, Chris,

611
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: talk to us.

612
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 13: Yeah, I heard you mentioned the NFL, and I've heard

613
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 13: you say you know that a World's thirties title would

614
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 13: be bigger than the Super Bowl.

615
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 7: I think we can all put that notion in the bed.

616
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 13: As a Mariner's season take a holder as well as Seahawks.

617
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 13: It was so difficult to see tickets available at states

618
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 13: value or even less for this series as well as

619
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 13: the last. I've never had an issue getting read of

620
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 13: tickets for Seahawks or Husky. It was hard to even

621
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 13: get my tickets away. Also, to be shocked at the

622
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 13: Mariners let us down, that's a bit absurd. All we've

623
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 13: ever done is let us down.

624
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 6: And it's pretty clear that we didn't.

625
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 13: Have the roster to compete with the Dodgers.

626
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 6: But I'll listen off the air.

627
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'm just confused as he's saying that

628
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: he agrees that the World Series would be bigger or

629
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't agree. He said we can put that notion

630
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: to bed, and then he ripped everybody for Seahawk tickets

631
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: being so cheap, So what's the I don't know.

632
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 8: I kind of get the feeling like in one of

633
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 8: the things I thought I got off the air was

634
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 8: that this is just a disaster and they're only going

635
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 8: to ever continue to let us down because the World

636
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 8: Series it's not forced to go off the one that

637
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 8: we were talking about, right, it's not forced, and we

638
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 8: can put it to bed that it'll ever.

639
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 6: Be for it.

640
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: Well, but what we did see last night, if I

641
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: understood Chris properly, and.

642
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Hey, look man, whatever, right.

643
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Well, all of us are emotional, so you could be

644
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: talking in Chinese for all I know. I was a

645
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: little bit surprised at how little people gave a crap

646
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: about that Seahawk game last night, up against Game seven. Now,

647
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: to be fair, it's Game seven, biggest Mariner game in history,

648
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: So if it took that to get to that point,

649
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: then okay, right, but you were there.

650
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 6: I was there.

651
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: Tickets were fifty bucks to get in the door. It

652
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: was preseason pricing.

653
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

654
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: Maybe Chris is agreeing with me that, hey, maybe we

655
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: did see what happens when this baseball team gives us

656
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: something like, that's what we're saying.

657
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we were so hungry to see something that

658
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: we saw last night, and we figured out, you know,

659
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: I can, I can go to the Seaoffs game whatever

660
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, you know, but I went to

661
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: the I'm a huge Hawks fan, but I still waited

662
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: until that.

663
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: Springer home run before I went in.

664
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: And plus I was doing the postgame show for the

665
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: Hawks game, so I probably needed to watch some of

666
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: the Hawks game in order to do that.

667
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 7: But you know, you go.

668
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: The vibe was so weird in that building.

669
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: I didn't go in until after the spring home run,

670
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: so we probably already knew that we were we were

671
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: going to lose, but there was a lot of seats available.

672
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: But for the people that were there, I thought they

673
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: were pretty loud in that second half. I thought they

674
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: did a good job.

675
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Ashton's in Tacoma. You're on the air, Ashton, go ahead, man, Hey, how's.

676
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 6: It going with Auti and Dick? I love your guys show.

677
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 14: First of all, I'm from Hawaii originally, and so I

678
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 14: grew up watching Marina baseball from Hawaii my pop and

679
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 14: we eventually moved out here. But it's it's been a

680
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 14: fantastic series, and it's been so much fun watching it

681
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 14: with my dad, and I just wanted to get that out,

682
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 14: you know, I have available to vent that. My dad

683
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 14: was on ship last night. He's a firefighters, so I

684
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 14: didn't get to watch it with him. But yeah, it's

685
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 14: just been fantastic.

686
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: A lot of fun. Yeah, and I hope for it

687
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 6: in the future.

688
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: I love him and I appreciate the call it, you know.

689
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: You know it's funny about that. And I don't know, man,

690
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: maybe this is just me. Maybe I'm just a complete

691
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: knuckle ahead. I didn't have any fun at all during

692
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: this run because I was stressed out beyond belief. Every game,

693
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: every pitch, every pitching change, every pinch, hit, everything, everything

694
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: stressed me out. I mean, honestly, like you saw me,

695
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: I was breaking out like a teenager.

696
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

697
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: So I would not classify this as fun because of

698
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: how exhausting and how stressful it was.

699
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: Maybe you guys just maybe answered that for him.

700
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 8: But as a younger person who experienced this for the

701
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 8: first time in my adult life, did you have fun?

702
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

703
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 8: But the question I have on that regard, Softie, for

704
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 8: both of you guys is being that you experienced, you know,

705
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 8: ninety five through A one. Was this easier having gone

706
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 8: through before? Because I look at my life and I say,

707
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 8: if I have to wait another twenty four years next

708
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 8: time I go through this set seven game series, will it.

709
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Be any easier?

710
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 7: Because this wasn't easy.

711
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it was easier because it's been so long.

712
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: If you gone, if we had have gone through it

713
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 4: in like twenty fifteen, right then it probably would have

714
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: been easier.

715
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: But we haven't been through it in twenty four years.

716
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing.

717
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Honestly, guys, this really should not be this big of

718
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: a deal. Making the playoffs and going to the ALCS

719
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: should not be this big a deal.

720
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: It is a big deal because we never go. So

721
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: it's a big deal.

722
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: And that's what made it stressful, that, my god, we

723
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: have a chance to do something we've never done and

724
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: we efing blew it, efing blew it, gave it away.

725
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: Let it slip through your fingers.

726
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know, somebody was tweeting me

727
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: last night about the the the grants in Game five

728
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: that that's now Jermaine curses catch against the Patriots, that

729
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: nobody will remember that that's right and because of the

730
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: way the series went well and I heard and that's

731
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: still one of our greatest moments. The Sad Sack franchise,

732
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: one of their greatest moments is in a game that

733
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: didn't even really mean anything.

734
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: And I heard Mark talk about that today.

735
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: He was like, I got to see the greatest moment

736
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: in Mariner history, the Gino home run. I don't think

737
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: you did, because it didn't even win the series.

738
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: Freaking series.

739
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: I agree. If they won the series, it would have

740
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: landed differently. Dick.

741
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I said the exact same thing

742
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: when it happened. I told my wife, you just saw

743
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: the biggest hit in Mariner baseball history.

744
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Not anymore, not anymore.

745
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Win the Serigar's number one Drew in Seattle, Drew.

746
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: You are on the air, go ahead.

747
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: I might be the only snow glow positive person in

748
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 6: the city.

749
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 15: But here's why.

750
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 6: We got swept by Houston, and.

751
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Everybody was bummed about that.

752
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 6: But they had hope for the future. This is the

753
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: start something.

754
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 15: The next year we didn't go to the playoffs, and

755
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 15: then it felt like it was gonna be the status quo.

756
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 15: Last night with a first year manager of the worst

757
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 15: eight or nine hitters in a lineup possible. With our

758
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 15: worst starter out most of the playoffs, we were.

759
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 6: Eight ounce away.

760
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 15: No, Dapoto's aware of that and will be making this

761
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 15: call next year saying that we are now.

762
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: In the World Chairs and we'll call you back in

763
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 6: the year from now, Dad close.

764
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 15: We're gonna get there.

765
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 6: It just doesn't feel like it is, ay, but we will.

766
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 6: This is different.

767
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 15: I mean, going to game since nineteen eighty two, this

768
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 15: is different.

769
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'll just say this, and I hope you're right.

770
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I hope to God you're right, uh, Drew. But we

771
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: also thought after the ninety five season, you've got Griffy,

772
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez, Jay Buner, Randy Johnson at Loupanela,

773
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: and we thought they were set up primo. We thought

774
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: they were set up for a run for four or

775
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: five years to dominate the American League.

776
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: And it never happened like that.

777
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: I was one hundred times more sure that day after

778
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: the Malcolm interception that we would go to the Super

779
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: Bowl next year than I am that the Mariners are

780
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: going to go to the World Series next year.

781
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: And we have never made it back, Let's get a break.

782
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Larry Stone man, he was on the air with us

783
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: a week ago, right at this I think this exact time.

784
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: Were we off the air for a hockey game last

785
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: week too?

786
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Maybe we were.

787
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: And we asked him what are we talking about in

788
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: seven days? And he said, we're talking about going to

789
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: the World Series. And here we are and we're not

790
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: going to the World Series. Larry Stone joins next, he.

791
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 16: Hurts, well, with so much work and effort throughout this

792
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 16: whole year, and like you know it's over.

793
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 6: It's baseball.

794
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: It's so synonymous with life. We have faith as Mariners

795
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: fans and this team should more than they've shown in

796
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: our lifetime.

797
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 12: The hurts and like I said, I'm proud of the

798
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 12: guys in this room.

799
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: I love every single one of them.

800
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 7: We can't far.

801
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: We did our best.

802
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 12: We have to feel proud this season.

803
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 16: I wasn't very special for everybody, and I.

804
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 15: Gave by with my dad And like Gino's frenn slam

805
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 15: and the Mary says, bring me so much joy.

806
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 7: In knocking on the door of a World Series. It's

807
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 7: a special team.

808
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: Now being a marriage man, it's you rally.

809
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: You know you're there.

810
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: Used to it is, you know, watching.

811
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 5: Game six, tasting the sweetness of October baseball. Congratulations to

812
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: the Seattle Mariners on their historical.

813
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 11: Run the whole city of Seattle.

814
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: What a great ruck. Care'd you be romantic about baseball?

815
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 5: From your die hard sports fans, It's Sports Radio ninety

816
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: three point three KJR FM.

817
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 16: Like, really, thank you for the support for all the

818
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 16: things you had to have done, like all the energy

819
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 16: have brought to the field, and he's going.

820
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: To be in our memory forever.

821
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 8: Roof now pay later, no payments until twenty twenty seven,

822
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 8: zero down, zero payments and zero interest for up to

823
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 8: twenty four months.

824
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 7: Hey, it's e and for NASA State Roofing and Exteriors.

825
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: Since it's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports

826
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 5: writer Larry Stone. Brought to you by the Ram Restaurant

827
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 5: and Brewery, Bigger, better and fresher since nineteen seventy one,

828
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: with eight Fugit Sound locations from Marysville to Lacey and

829
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: everywhere in between. There's a Ram there you now with

830
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 5: Softy and Dick, here's Larry Stone.

831
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: We know we had Larry on the air and we

832
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: asked him at the end of the conversation when we're

833
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: talking a week from now, what is the conversation going.

834
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: To be all about?

835
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: And Larry, you told us we'd be talking about this

836
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: team in the World Series and they were eight outs away. Man,

837
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: biggest gut punch is a fan for me, I know,

838
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: Dick Vane agrees with that.

839
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: Jackson agrees with that.

840
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Why don't we just give you the floor and let

841
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: you respond to one of the absolute biggest heartbreaks I

842
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: think any of us have ever been a part of,

843
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: and maybe the biggest ever.

844
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on what we saw last night?

845
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was at the Seahawks when they lost

846
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 6: in the last second. This was comparable to that, I think,

847
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: But the difference was they had won the title the

848
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 6: year before. This team was trying to get to the

849
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 6: Championship round for the first time. And what's so maddening

850
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 6: is it was in their grasp. It was there, you know, uh,

851
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 6: going up to to nothing on the road, then then

852
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 6: faltering at home and and but but winning that great

853
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 6: Game five that swore as Grand Slam, and and then

854
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 6: losing two on the road again, and then then blowing

855
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: a three to one lead in the in the seventh

856
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 6: inning It's just it's unfathomable. Just you know, the what

857
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 6: comes to my mind is the the ted Lasso line.

858
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 6: It's the hope that will kill you. You know. Fans

859
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: were just allowed themselves to finally dream the impossible dream

860
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 6: there and it was snatched away from him. And I

861
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 6: think that just makes it exponentially more more painful, is

862
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 6: if they had started to believe against their better judgment.

863
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 4: Larry Dan has taken a lot of heat, no question

864
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: about it, not just for the seventh inning, but for

865
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: for a lot of different decisions. How warranted is that criticism.

866
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: Let's just kind of focus on game number seven right now.

867
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

868
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: Uh. The the decision to bring in Bizarto I just

869
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 6: didn't agree with at the time, and I find it,

870
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 6: you know, the more I the more I reflect on it,

871
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 6: the worst the worse it becomes. It's it's the leverage

872
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 6: situation of all leverage situations. You know that the seasons

873
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 6: on the line, you go to your best guy, and

874
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 6: your best guy is munnos Uh. You know he hadn't

875
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: faced uh uh. He hadn't faced Springer yet in the

876
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 6: in the postseason, he had he was fresh, he hadn't

877
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: worked for two days but Zardo had worked two innings.

878
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 6: Granted he's only thrown fifteen pitches in those two innings

879
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 6: the day before, incredibly efficient two innings. But uh, I

880
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 6: think in that situation, you just you got to live

881
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: and die with your with your best guy, right, and

882
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 6: and it's it's Munno. So uh, I think it just

883
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 6: started to careen out of control when when that decision

884
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 6: was made.

885
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: So talk me through kind of how that would have

886
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: played out, because some folks would say, and I saw

887
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: Ben Verlander, who covers baseball as Justin's brother, all over

888
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: Twitter agreeing with you, right, saying they should have gone

889
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: to Munno's the ninth inning at that point in time,

890
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: be damned, get this out, get out of there, and

891
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: we can worry about the eighth and worry about the

892
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: ninth when they come around. Would that have been kind

893
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: of your mo that the only thing that matters right

894
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 1: now is getting out of here and we can deal

895
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: with the eighth in ten minutes.

896
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. I think in the best case scenario, Muss

897
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 6: gets out of that jam, works the eighth, and then

898
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 6: depending on his pitch count, maybe we even bring him

899
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 6: back to start the ninth. But you also have all

900
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 6: those starters that could finish the game. You know, it

901
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 6: could have been Miller, it could have been Castillo, you

902
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 6: had a rested spire. You know, there were options there

903
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 6: that you could have gone to in the ninth, but

904
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 6: you know, you got to get there. And you know,

905
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 6: it reminded me of the year that I think it

906
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 6: was twenty fourteen when Buck Showalter never brought in his

907
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 6: closer who was that year it had like fifty something

908
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 6: saved Britain because he was saving him for a safe

909
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 6: situation that never came. And I don't know if you remember,

910
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 6: but he was just lamb based it by you know,

911
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 6: all the stat nerds everybody and the same people who

912
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 6: are lamb basing Wilson as a matter of fact.

913
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: Well why, I mean, but let's let's let's try to

914
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: approach it from the other side for a second. Why

915
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: would he not do that?

916
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 6: Right? Like?

917
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: What what were they thinking? And you know Dan was.

918
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Asked about it last night, and I think Adam wrote

919
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: about this in the paper that you know, Dan's never

920
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: going to give you anything really of detail. He's gonna

921
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: speak in tongues, he's gonna use pliches. It's a lot

922
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: of coach speak. He's never gonna get to the point.

923
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Jetfish is the exact opposite with the media,

924
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: right that that Wilson's the same guy now Larry with

925
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: the media as he was when he's a player. But

926
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: if you were in a private moment with Dan and

927
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: you asked him, what was your logic in going to

928
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: Bizardo and not going to Munyo's, what do you think

929
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: he would say?

930
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 6: Well, I think he would say, one, I wanted to

931
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: save Munno's for the final two innings. That's his role,

932
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: That's been his role all season. And he would say

933
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 6: I've seen Bizarto get out of jams like this all season,

934
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 6: and he did it in Game five miraculously against Detroit,

935
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: and you know, wriggled out of him seemingly impossible situation.

936
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: The night before, he'd breathed through two innings on like

937
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 6: I said, fifteen pitches and two innings, fourteen strikes, he

938
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 6: had struck out Springer or I'm not sure if he had,

939
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 6: but he'd gotten Springer out, and so I think that's

940
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 6: what he would go on. We believe in Bizardo. He's

941
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 6: done it all year and that was his spot. But

942
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: you know that I think that's fine for every other game,

943
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 6: but in a month, a true must win game, I

944
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 6: think you've got to not just fall back on that's

945
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 6: what we've done all year.

946
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: Ry he'd been able to stretch it out a little

947
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: more if he had had his starter, who was absolutely nails,

948
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: go another inning. I was stunned when I saw that

949
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: George Kirby was taken out of that game.

950
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: Were you surprised?

951
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: No, I wasn't, And I just I disagree with you

952
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 6: on that one. I don't blame I don't blame him

953
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 6: for that one. I mean, the third time through the

954
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 6: order is is a huge consideration. It was nine to

955
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 6: one two, so he would have started around the third

956
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 6: time in that fifth inning. Uh, he's We've seen Kirby

957
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: kind of falter in that third time around the order before.

958
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: I think you you you got I think they they

959
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: had it set up perfectly four for four for Kirby,

960
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 6: three for Wu and then two the final two for

961
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 6: Munnos and it just got away from him when Wu, uh,

962
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 6: you know, they facing the seven and eight hitters, gave

963
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 6: up a walk, which which was you know that really

964
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 6: came back to haunt him, and then a single that

965
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 6: I think it was kind of filefa that easily could

966
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: have been a double play if it's a couple of

967
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 6: seats in the other direction, but it wasn't, and what

968
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 6: it got through, and so that that's when he had

969
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 6: to get away from what I think they had drawn up,

970
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 6: which was WU for three innings that just didn't work

971
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 6: out well.

972
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: Larry Stones with us and Larry Look, I mean obviously

973
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: for for years, for decades, right, we're going to be

974
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: debating this. I mean we still debate, you know, Kasazaki

975
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Arthur Rhodes in New York in two thousand and one,

976
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty four to twenty five years later.

977
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: So this is the beauty of baseball that these these

978
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: things are never ever going away. But you know, I

979
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: just wonder how much responsibility as well do we put

980
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: on the starting pitching for the rest of this series

981
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: and the bottom of the order for the Mariners that

982
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: just did not show up at all when, let's face it,

983
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Blue Jays offense did.

984
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I think that's that's spot on you. You asked,

985
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 6: when you asked me last week who we'd be talking

986
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 6: about the Mariners in the World Series. I said, yeah,

987
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 6: and I said it's because they have better starting pitching,

988
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 6: a better bullpen, and better offense. And I think I

989
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 6: was wrong on just about every count there. You know,

990
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 6: I think, uh, maybe in the big picture they have

991
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 6: a better bullpen and better starting but it did not

992
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 6: show up in the series. And same with the offense,

993
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 6: because you know they had they had three guys over

994
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 6: one thousand ops in Naylor, Julio, and cal but pretty

995
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: much that was it. Canzone oh ninety one, revas O

996
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 6: seventy one, Roblists oh seventy seven, Crawford won forty three.

997
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 6: I mean, they got nothing from the bottom of the order.

998
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 6: And then the starting pitching, which is the strength of

999
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 6: this team, just didn't come through. Castillo had a short

1000
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 6: start where he got hit around. Uh, you know, Gilbert

1001
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 6: didn't look good at all, and two starts. Kirby had

1002
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 6: that one really bad start. Uh. The only guy who

1003
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 6: really came through was was Miller, guy who wouldn't have

1004
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 6: even been starting if who was healthy. He had He

1005
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 6: had the one great starting Game one and then was

1006
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 6: solid again in his next start. So that was the

1007
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: most disappointing thing to me, I think was the starting

1008
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 6: pitching was not as dominant as I think we all

1009
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 6: thought it would be. I mean, how many years have

1010
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 6: we said the Mariners were a team built for the postseason,

1011
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 6: just get in and with that starting rotation, they would

1012
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 6: they they could go all the way, and they got

1013
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 6: in and the starting rotation for whatever reason, I honestly,

1014
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 6: you know, I thought this, and I think Schmolt said

1015
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 6: the same thing, sort of validing what I had been thinking.

1016
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 6: That fifteen inning game kind of threw everything off. You know,

1017
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 6: you had to use both Castillo and and Gilbert, and

1018
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 6: I think it just it just threw off everything. The

1019
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 6: guys pitching on short rest, and I'm not sure that

1020
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 6: they ever they ever got back to themselves, and so

1021
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 6: you know, I mean that's excuse making and everything, but

1022
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: I think that may have been a factor.

1023
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 4: Larry, do you think this failure will actually help them

1024
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: in the future, maybe as soon as next year.

1025
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 6: I I you would, you would hope so in a

1026
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 6: couple of ways. Dick motivation obviously for the players, like

1027
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: you know, not wanting to have that happen again, you know,

1028
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 6: re dedicating themselves to ensuring that it's not going to

1029
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 6: happen again, that sort of thing, And you'd hope that

1030
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 6: for management ownership. It would make them, you know, want

1031
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 6: to do everything it takes to build a team and

1032
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 6: fill the weaknesses of this team that were evident that

1033
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 6: that were evident as the postseason went on. You know,

1034
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 6: they were short a bat and they were short a

1035
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 6: relief arm. You know, to to to to address those

1036
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 6: and and make sure that you know that they're a

1037
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 6: team that Excuse me, if they get in that situation again,

1038
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 6: can can get over the hump.

1039
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: Well, I'm very curious to see how ownership response to this,

1040
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they blew a ten game lead

1041
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: a year ago, and we saw how they responded over

1042
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: the offseason, and it was with nothing. They went and

1043
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: got Polonko for seven point five million is their big ticket.

1044
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody thought Hora Polonko would do

1045
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: what he was going to do, including Hora Polonko. And

1046
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I do also wonder, you know, for Stanton Larson. You know,

1047
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: the people that control the purse strings over there. Man,

1048
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: if it's ever a time to do it, it's now.

1049
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Because of what you just said. They should be motivated

1050
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: after this failure, after smelling it and tasting it. They

1051
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: should want it now as badly as they've ever wanted it,

1052
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: And let's face it, guys, this coming off season could

1053
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: be the last offseason that they're ever expected to go

1054
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: out and spend a buttload of money because there could

1055
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: be a salary cap in twenty twenty six. Who knows

1056
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: where this thing's going with the lockout Larry in December. Man,

1057
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: So are we going to get a real feel for

1058
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: how motivated these guys these guys are and how pissed

1059
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: off they are about what happened yesterday by their actions

1060
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: over this offseason?

1061
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's that's a fair statement, and you know,

1062
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 6: I'd be surprised theoretically if it didn't light a fire

1063
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 6: hunt him to do to you know, the step that

1064
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 6: they haven't always done in the past. I think starting

1065
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 6: with Naylor, I think you've got to make that priority one.

1066
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 6: And I think that's very doable. For everything he said

1067
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 6: was how much he loved it here and playing here,

1068
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 6: you know, love the ballpark, which a lot of free

1069
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 6: agents don't say, uh, and the teammates and you know,

1070
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 6: it just seems a perfect fit. That doesn't mean it's

1071
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: going to happen, because there'll be other suitors, But I

1072
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 6: think they can make make that happen. And you know,

1073
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: I think there's a chance that this will help them

1074
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 6: in the regard that Seattle hasn't been a great destination

1075
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: for top level free agents beyond money, just I think

1076
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 6: a lot of free agents want to go to a

1077
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 6: chance place where they have a chance to win and

1078
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 6: win a championship, and I don't think Seattle was perceived

1079
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 6: as that place. But I think potential free agents can't help.

1080
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 6: But look at what they have going now and how

1081
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 6: close they got this year, and we realize that this

1082
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 6: is a team that is poised to win a championship

1083
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 6: with a few additions, and there may be some guys

1084
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 6: who want to be that guy that puts them over

1085
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 6: the top. And I think also the environment. I think

1086
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 6: the fans going crazy in Seattle in those games on TV,

1087
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 6: I think that played well also as a enticing you know,

1088
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 6: place to play if you're a free agent. So we'll

1089
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 6: see if you know. Still the money has to still

1090
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 6: be right, but I think I think Seattle increased their

1091
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 6: reputation as a good destination for free agents.

1092
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: How do you think we'll remember this team?

1093
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 4: Will you remember it?

1094
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: Fondley?

1095
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's going to be a mixed thing.

1096
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 6: I think it'll be remembered fondly as the team that

1097
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 6: got him back to the Alcs and got within a

1098
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 6: game of the World Series. But I think ultimately it

1099
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 6: will be remembered. You know, cal Cal himself said it

1100
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 6: a failure. You know, it's a harsh word, and you

1101
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 6: could be a you could be a success and a failure.

1102
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: This is this team was successful in a lot of ways,

1103
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 6: but in the end it was a failure because they

1104
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 6: didn't when they were so close and had it in

1105
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 6: their grasp, they let it slip away. So I think

1106
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 6: that that dual reality will be how this team is remembered,

1107
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 6: but probably more towards the Springer home run will it'll

1108
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 6: be painful. I think more than anything, it'll be a

1109
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 6: painful memory of a season that had, up until the

1110
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 6: seventh inning, had been you know, joyous and memorable and

1111
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 6: all those positive things.

1112
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, you said it perfectly at the top when you

1113
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: said that, we all allowed ourselves to actually start believing

1114
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: that this was going to happen, and they ripped it away.

1115
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: And my wife told me last night when I got

1116
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: home from you know, Jimmy, she said, you know what

1117
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: I wish we were the Brewers. I wish we'd just

1118
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: got our ass kicked in four consecutive games because that

1119
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: would have been way less painful than this.

1120
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 6: You agree with that, Yes, I've thought that in the past.

1121
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 6: Sometimes it hurts more to almost get there and have

1122
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 6: you know, which technically is a more successful season. But

1123
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 6: you know, like you said, when when you get your

1124
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 6: butt kicked, or you don't even get that far, like

1125
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 6: say they've lost to Detroit or something like that, I

1126
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: think that would have been less painful than this than

1127
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 6: to have to have it just just over the horizon.

1128
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 6: But you can't get there.

1129
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: No doubt.

1130
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: Larry, listen man, love having you on this entire baseball season.

1131
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: Couldn't have done it without you. And next time we

1132
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: need a professional therapist to talk us through life's painful moments,

1133
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: we will definitely be turning to you.

1134
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: All right, So stand by.

1135
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 6: Oh go as price for you guys, done usual rate?

1136
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry, love you. We'll talk somebody, okay, all right,

1137
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: thanks guys.

1138
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: All right, Larry Stone with us on the air, we

1139
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: got like a minute left.

1140
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: Was it a failure? You agree with cal Rawley.

1141
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I think the series was a failure, no question.

1142
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 3: The ending was a failure. I don't think the season

1143
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: was a failure. Yes, it certainly.

1144
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: It certainly end as a big flop and and really

1145
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: things that could have been prevented.

1146
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: That's what makes me saying.

1147
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, Jackson the successful year for me, and I

1148
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 8: think that a lot of that is based on the

1149
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 8: everything that came before last night.

1150
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, as Larry said, both of those truths

1151
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: can exist. I think it was the greatest season in

1152
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Mariner baseball history. It came with an eight out of

1153
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: the World Series. You got as far as you ever went,

1154
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: but it also left me with the greatest disappointments I've

1155
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: ever had in my life as a baseball fan. And

1156
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: the further you go, the higher you climb, the harder

1157
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: you fall. And this was the highest climb and it

1158
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: was the hardest fall I've ever felt as a sports

1159
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: fan in anything, Super Bowls, Huskies, basketball, baseball, whatever. So

1160
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: we'll see you know again, Like we said earlier, what

1161
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: are we supposed to now? We just keep waiting, man,

1162
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: Just keep waiting and come back again next year because

1163
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: there's nothing else to do. We'll get out of here.

1164
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Cracking Capital's pregame, Mike Benton's Got You Next on ninety

1165
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: three to three KJRFM.