WEBVTT - 2-17-26 Sloan with Ken Kober

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be in a man Stott flumshow

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred w LW. As we cut through, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on this Tuesday, getting ready for some Marty Gray action tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>More on that later, we had let's see a shooting

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<v Speaker 1>on a party of bus on Valentine's Day we in

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<v Speaker 1>that left one dead one injured. Sunday we had about

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<v Speaker 1>one forty am two people killed, two more injury to

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<v Speaker 1>shooting at a club on Hamilton Avenue in Northside. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>overnight we have a body that was found one at

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn and Poplar, I believe. So they're kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>steady drumbeat of homicides and the numbers are up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit year over year, which is causing concern. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>the show this morning as the president of the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Lodge Queency Lodge FOP at be Ken cober Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Hi you, Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>Heay, Good morning, Seth. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>First, I did want to give condolences because anytime an

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<v Speaker 1>officer goes down to Metaware, it has cost for reflection

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<v Speaker 1>and concerned. And we just had two officers shot outside

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis yesterday, one fatal for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>So condolences, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible. Actually, I was just an Indianapolis over the

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<v Speaker 3>weekend and it's just terrible, terrible that things like this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does. Well, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they caught the guy responsible or the

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<v Speaker 1>subject anyway, so that's get him off the street anyway

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<v Speaker 1>and behind bars if not worse. But so we had

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<v Speaker 1>a reduction after the last for well the first two

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<v Speaker 1>months of this year. I guess we're seeing your rise

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<v Speaker 1>after reduction last year. So crime was down, but two

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<v Speaker 1>high I said, mentioned the high profile shootings and the

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<v Speaker 1>fatal last night at Popula Land. Crime numbers this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's against a very small sample. We're halfway through February,

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<v Speaker 1>but a year of a year, we're up like forty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>In considering the fact that it has been bloody cold

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<v Speaker 1>ever since Christmas. That takes a lot of doing to

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<v Speaker 1>get people out on the street shooting people or in

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<v Speaker 1>this case clubs. Maybe is that a concern and is

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<v Speaker 1>that a concern of the hot summer to come?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, it absolutely is. I mean we did see a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of spike in a little bit warmer weather,

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm sure it probably contributed to more people being

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<v Speaker 3>out and of course had alcohol and guns at at

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<v Speaker 3>a nightclub, and you know that's is a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it is very concerning that it's still this

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<v Speaker 3>cold and you know, we're seeing you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we're up to ten homicides already this year. That's certainly concerning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do we compare it to other cities, like like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Cleveland or maybe Columbus.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's ironic. I was reading an article and

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<v Speaker 3>talked to the Columbus e FIP president who's a friend

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<v Speaker 3>of mine, and Columbus so far this year, which is

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<v Speaker 3>almost twice the size of Cincinnati and typically is much

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<v Speaker 3>more violent, and they're actually they have a big reduction

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<v Speaker 3>in homicides already. I mean they have six. We're at ten.

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<v Speaker 3>That is certainly a troubling trend. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 3>to attribute it to, but it is certainly concerning that

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<v Speaker 3>city half the size of Columbus is almost doubling them

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<v Speaker 3>in homicides already this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're metro areas that were huge, Our birds are bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>but the sides of the city itself is massive, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've had ten. Yeah, and I look at it, go wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what's causing this? Because you really have to work hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get out in this cold weather. Generally the cold

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<v Speaker 1>scarce street crime away naturally, But you have a fear

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<v Speaker 1>once it starts to warm up and we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the summer celebration season that we might see a very

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<v Speaker 1>bloody summer. It doesn't mean that that's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>reverse course, but it certainly is something we should be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, you know, and it's I've talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>at nauseum now and how the court system is not

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<v Speaker 3>doing anything to protect the community. I just had an

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<v Speaker 3>officer call me this past week and was just furious.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a court case where a young man driving

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<v Speaker 3>drunk hits and kills somebody aggravated the hicular homicide, literally

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<v Speaker 3>kills somebody driving a car, and he ends up getting

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<v Speaker 3>six months at River City in a three years of probation.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean literally a slap on the rift. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I spent a couple of years in our traffic unit

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<v Speaker 3>back in the early two thousands where if you got

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<v Speaker 3>to candiction for an aggravated vik kio homicide, you took

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's life because you were drunk. You were high whatever else.

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<v Speaker 3>You were looking at minimum five six years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now.

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<v Speaker 3>Six months, six months, and this person's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>back running around on the streets. You know, when there

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<v Speaker 3>are no consequences for your actions. This is exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing. I mean, people are just going to continue

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot each other because they're not fearing any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of consequence.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no question, we saw the his name was Robert Shaw.

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<v Speaker 1>He was charged with murder in the drive by shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>They killed Justin Johnson when Thursday Night football was in

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<v Speaker 1>town last year was the Bengals the imaginery right in

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<v Speaker 1>front the in between tabern This guys, weren't an ankle

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<v Speaker 1>monitor for charges considering a concealed weapon I legal gun possession,

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<v Speaker 1>a gun under disability. He got a twenty thousand dollars bond,

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<v Speaker 1>paid ten percent of that in electronic monitoring. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>June or a few you know, he's around shooting people

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<v Speaker 1>with an ankle monitor on. We also recall the pivotal

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<v Speaker 1>moment at Fountain Square where Shaquille Ferguson said it was

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<v Speaker 1>dell self defense. The people he shot through the window

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<v Speaker 1>of Citybird Chicken were actually armed and pointing a gun

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<v Speaker 1>at him and that's know where people are around on

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<v Speaker 1>Fountain Square. He was put on probation a month before

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<v Speaker 1>for a violent crime. Is this whole narrative with judges

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<v Speaker 1>being two lax and also the enforcement and getting people

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<v Speaker 1>off the streets who are in violation of breaking or

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<v Speaker 1>wearing their ankle monitor outside the alerts go off. Have

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<v Speaker 1>we got any better about that since the summer?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I think you look at Cincinnati wanted to be

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<v Speaker 3>a sanctuary city. Apparently the Hamilton County Courthouse he's become

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<v Speaker 3>a sanctuary for criminals. There's just no accountability. And as

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<v Speaker 3>long as we continue to see that no accountability, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's no consequences, people are going to go out

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<v Speaker 3>and do whatever they want. They're going to commit violent

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<v Speaker 3>crime knowing that they're going to be right back out,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think judges aren't listening to this outcraft

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<v Speaker 2>from the public.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of these judges they ran on this,

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<v Speaker 3>they ran on bail reform, they ran on making sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, there's this social justice, all of these things,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're not being shy about it. And it's what

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<v Speaker 3>the County's voting for you know, we had some fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>judges that have recently been you know, kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>office in exchange for judges who have said, no, we

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<v Speaker 3>want lower no bail, or we're doing cashlest bail. We're

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<v Speaker 3>doing all these things. So it's exactly what they're saying

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<v Speaker 3>they want to do, and for whatever reason, the people

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<v Speaker 3>in the county are going for this, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's making this county much more dangerous and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you know, the county can cover continues

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<v Speaker 1>to vote and look look at it, you know, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the problems with Terry Sigi. And we'll get into that

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<v Speaker 1>in just a second. Ball these things and at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, we just elected all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that had a hand on this.

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<v Speaker 2>To begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a concern for the resident Cincinnati. Why should

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<v Speaker 1>it be concerned for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Then one might ask, well, and that's that's the hard

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<v Speaker 3>part is because you know, every police officer, like myself

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<v Speaker 3>swore took an oath to protect the communities we serve.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's extremely frustrating when you have officers that are

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<v Speaker 3>going out doing great work getting guns off the street,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting violent as thunders off the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Only to be let out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I'm quite honestly, I am surprised that

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<v Speaker 3>the doors in the courthouse haven't come off the tracks

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<v Speaker 3>because the door is revolving so quickly. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's ridiculous and it's frustrating to see that it's

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<v Speaker 3>going on, and it makes cops feel helpless a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Cober, president of the Quincity Lodge FOP, on the

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<v Speaker 1>show this morning on seven hundred WLW and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting last night. We have a steady state of

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<v Speaker 1>shootings here on North Side, and you look at that

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<v Speaker 1>one in particular, Ken, that's troubling because there's a business owner.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the news last night, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was five and this guy owns an appliance place and

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<v Speaker 1>it's in front of his building shot up. He said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the first time he goes. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>moving off the main strip out of the way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a community like Norriside. Generally there's some crime there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like the areas that typically we see

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<v Speaker 1>when when it's started, when bullets start flying around there

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<v Speaker 1>and people going hey, listen, I'm out. That should be

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<v Speaker 1>a wake up call to those leading our city.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think you would think the elected leaders would

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<v Speaker 3>look at this and that businesses are frustrated, citizens are frustrated,

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<v Speaker 3>the police are frustrated. Maybe we should change our ideology.

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<v Speaker 3>But then again, you continue to get re elected. So apparently,

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<v Speaker 3>you know the people that are speaking out about crime,

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<v Speaker 3>the people that are speaking out against the violence, or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the minority of their voters.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't either. I mean I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to look at you know, we're locking people

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<v Speaker 1>up from marijuana possession and stuff like that, and clearly

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was wrongheaded. And now we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>expunging records and banning the box. I have no problem

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But when someone picks up the gun and

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<v Speaker 1>commission of a crime of a violent felony, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they get released on their own recognizance to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and do it again, they completely thumb their nose at

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<v Speaker 1>the system. I mean, you're past the point of reform.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think at that case, if you didn't learn

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<v Speaker 1>your lesson the first time, why are we giving you

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<v Speaker 1>a second chance. I think that's fair. I think most

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<v Speaker 1>people in Cincinnati's voters look at that and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems about right. If you're going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>predator with a weapon and you don't get the message

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, and you do it literally while you're

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<v Speaker 1>well you got you walked out of course, someone just

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the right cown walked out of court basically

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<v Speaker 1>and reviolated after promising they'd get a job and be

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<v Speaker 1>on community controlling all these wonderful things they promised.

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<v Speaker 2>A judge, I'm sorry when you break it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there should be a third chance.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I completely agree, I absolutely agree with you. And

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately that is not the ideology of many of these

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<v Speaker 3>judges in Hamilton County. And there is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a direct correlation between a bloody summer and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these criminals not being held accountable. We're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>a time and time again. I mean you look at

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just just from the city aspect, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they just re elected all the city council, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the mayor. Yeah, they has said look, we're this is

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<v Speaker 3>we're all for cashlest batil, we're all for our bonds,

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<v Speaker 3>and they vote them. So it's clearly this is what

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<v Speaker 3>they want. Yeah, so this is what they're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the effect of that too.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's certainly not everyone, but it's enough towards a

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<v Speaker 1>steady drum beat. And the crime numbers are going back

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<v Speaker 1>up again a very very small sample, and you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>in different like seven last year and ten this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it's not the right trajectory and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good look for these folks. I'll also ask too

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, if if all of this stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of Terry Thiji was driven by the rise

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<v Speaker 1>and crime, the problem if the numbers are going back

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<v Speaker 1>up again, is this all on Terry Thigi? And not

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<v Speaker 1>only that the fact of the matters. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Inquirer just did a piece on this the other day, going,

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<v Speaker 1>what what is good? The contract's going to expire with

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<v Speaker 1>the local law firm? What' taft? In literally just a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so that said, Hey, we got to get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing wrapped up. And there's still nothing coming out

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<v Speaker 1>about She's still the chief technically and Henny is still

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<v Speaker 1>the interim chief. That doesn't look like it's changed anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I meant, how much longer do you have to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>to find out why you fired her in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying blame in the chief of police for crime is

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<v Speaker 3>like blaming McDonald's for somebody being obese. It's it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's only so many things a police chief

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<v Speaker 3>can do. There's only so much that the police can do. There.

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<v Speaker 3>We're one hundred and forty and fifty officers short camp everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time, you know, at some point there's

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to be a culture shift within the

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<v Speaker 3>city of Cincinnati to say, you know what, we're we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to find a way to resolve our differences instead

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<v Speaker 3>of picking up a gun because.

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<v Speaker 2>We're upset with somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>And until that changes, you know, we're we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see kind of the same thing and then until judges

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<v Speaker 3>decide you know what, if you're carrying a gun and

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<v Speaker 3>you're committing a violent crime, you're going to go to

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<v Speaker 3>prison and you're going to go there for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Until those things change and it's actually publicized. Yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to see the headlines of you know, the latest

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<v Speaker 3>homicide suspect, you know is going to spend the next

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years in prison for taking somebody's life. Now, that

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<v Speaker 3>might actually get somebody's attention. But until then, all of

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<v Speaker 3>these headlines of you know, four people shot here, two

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<v Speaker 3>people shot here, it's almost become just like background noise.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people are so desensitized to you, oh, they're

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<v Speaker 3>like heah, they wake up and see there's oh, big surprise,

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<v Speaker 3>there's another shooting in Cincinnati, and somehow it's become acceptable.

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<v Speaker 3>And until that changes, until that mindset changes of look,

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<v Speaker 3>we actually value human life and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>tolerate this nonsense. And it starts with elected officials, it

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<v Speaker 3>starts with these judges. Until those things change, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to see the same thing over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, relative to the Chief Biji investigation, that she's still

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<v Speaker 1>hanging and twisting in the wind because she is technically

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<v Speaker 1>not fired, well, not fired at all, because we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to find an investigation as to why we fired in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. I think does that hamstring things for

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<v Speaker 1>you in a sense that you know we've got well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to do more research to find out why

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<v Speaker 1>we fired in the first place. That's not a good

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that sits well. And maybe they just

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<v Speaker 1>hope we forget about it. But the other element of

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<v Speaker 1>this is Adam Henny, who through all in accounts that

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<v Speaker 1>I here is a good guy. He just how much

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<v Speaker 1>juice could he have if he's still the interim chief.

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<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely correct, you know, it's doing a disservice to him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's doing a disservice to all the other men and

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<v Speaker 3>women that wear this uniform that we're all just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of in limbo right now. It's like, okay, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the interim chief, so there's some changes that he

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<v Speaker 3>can make, but any any change of any real, real,

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<v Speaker 3>uh substance isn't going to happen until we have a

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<v Speaker 3>permanent chief, and I understand that, but we're just going

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<v Speaker 3>to keep on dragging this along. You know, who knows

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen at the end of this month,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, where do we go from there?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they gonna are they going to bring her back

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<v Speaker 3>or are they going to say, say, well, you know, Adams

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<v Speaker 3>now the chief who knows well? But this this just

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<v Speaker 3>keeps on dragging.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also not unlike the uh you know what happened

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<v Speaker 1>over the summer too, with the big fight downtown after

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<v Speaker 1>the music festival and like that case just simply no

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<v Speaker 1>one's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just simply evaporated, like we're waiting for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the testament.

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<v Speaker 1>It came out from the prosecutor off I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the racial beatdown that we thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the white guy was a victim. And ever since then,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who have called for you know, the heads

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<v Speaker 1>of white people, essentially we've got to prosecute this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else turns out there now no one's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just still like simply I've never seen a case

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<v Speaker 1>that big go away and literally in the corners of

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<v Speaker 1>hushed conversations around the city, that's all you hear. But

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<v Speaker 1>no one's talking about that either. It's I wouldn't call

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<v Speaker 1>it a conspiracy or cover up, because you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the THEIJI case in this are remarkably

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<v Speaker 1>similar is that it doesn't fit the narrative and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made it go away.

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<v Speaker 3>Well sure, you know, they put they put the cart

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<v Speaker 3>before the horse, and then all of a sudden, now

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to backtrack and figure ot, okay, what do

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<v Speaker 3>we do now? We put ourselves in a bad, bad

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<v Speaker 3>predicament and what do we do now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Also with the cameras, right, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>for the first shooting at the Laura Playground a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, the cry was, hey, we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>cameras all over. Well we didn't do that, and another

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<v Speaker 1>eleven year old died in New Year's Day and still

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<v Speaker 1>there was no you know, it's confusing, it's contradictory. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting you know, double speak. And I don't know are

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras going up? But I thought I saw they were,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's ironically enough, Chief kind of put together a

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<v Speaker 3>group of police officers that this isn't really their job

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<v Speaker 3>to be doing these things, but most of them have

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<v Speaker 3>a really substantial IT background and know how to do

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<v Speaker 3>these that they've actually taken from their assignments, put them

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<v Speaker 3>in a group together and have been going out and

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<v Speaker 3>installing cameras. This has typically not been the job of

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<v Speaker 3>sworn officers, but they're making it work, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it has been done very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>They've worked a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of hours to try to get all these cameras functioning

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<v Speaker 3>and to take the new cameras that they have and

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<v Speaker 3>get them up yeah, but while that's being done, then

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<v Speaker 3>their normal job is suffering just because you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>can't obviously can't be two places at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, they're just trying to make it work

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<v Speaker 3>with what the resources that they have, which it is

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<v Speaker 3>certainly admirable that they're getting it done.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll leave it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wad a shooting on Valentine's Day and a party bus,

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<v Speaker 1>one dead, one wounded. Sunday morning, one forty North Side,

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<v Speaker 1>gun play breaks out for in a club, bullets flying

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<v Speaker 1>over the street. Some of the buildings themselves and storefronts

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<v Speaker 1>are hit with you can just see the broken glass

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<v Speaker 1>and the remains of the shooting itself. To what two

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<v Speaker 1>people killed, two injured there. And then last night they

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<v Speaker 1>found a body of a female dumped at Lynn and

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<v Speaker 1>Poplar Street. So the bloody cold weather, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense, but we're starting to see

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<v Speaker 1>a spike in these violent crimes and murders despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact we've had an extremely cold strutch normally that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair to ask, well, crap, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>this cold and the weather's is bad and there's still

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<v Speaker 1>We're still seeing a rate of homicides increasing over the

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<v Speaker 1>first two months of the year. That begs the question, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what about when it gets warmer? Are we in for

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<v Speaker 1>a bloody summer? We hope not, and hopefully we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>a way through this. Ken Coober, president of the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>City Lodge FOP, thanks again for jumping on this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother appreciates you be well, sure appreciate take care. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to get a news update in the very latest

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<v Speaker 1>with the weather situation.

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<v Speaker 2>What's warming up now?

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<v Speaker 1>It feels great outside, but we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fog again this morning, and of course the passing of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Jackson making news today dead at the age of

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four. Scotts Loan show. This is seven hundred w