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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. Sandra, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 2: Howdy, how do you back?

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Speaker 1: Catch you?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking my call here, my pleasure with.

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Speaker 1: A greeting like that, of course, how can I help you?

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Speaker 2: Well, it sure has been interesting listening to what you've

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Speaker 2: been having to say in context of what's going on

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Speaker 2: with me. But essentially, you know, I am an abuse

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Speaker 2: survivor from my childhood, and you know, stuff happened, and

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Speaker 2: I do have a relationship with the Lord, but what

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Speaker 2: has happened is in my daily walk. It's almost like

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Speaker 2: I don't really want to touch bases on a daily basis.

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Speaker 2: And it's like I know everything's going to come out

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Speaker 2: in the end. You know, every thing works too good?

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Speaker 2: What works for good?

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Speaker 1: You know? Sure, but.

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Speaker 2: Excruciating things happen, you know, and there's no guarantee even

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Speaker 2: though you really, excruciating things happen, and so it's like

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Speaker 2: on a daily basis, it's like almost like why bother.

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Speaker 2: I know it's going to come out. I believe, you know,

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Speaker 2: But if I have a daily communication and then these

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Speaker 2: excruciating things happen, I don't see the point. I just

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Speaker 2: rather know that it's going to come out okay, and

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Speaker 2: you know, not really fussed with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you're saying you don't want to have communication

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Speaker 1: with God because you don't think it's going to change

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Speaker 1: the outcome.

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe that the outcome is going to be okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, based on myself, based on everything that the

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Speaker 2: world has done for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, man, that's fair enough. But why not have a

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Speaker 1: relationship while you're here?

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Speaker 2: It really hurts?

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Speaker 1: What does.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's like there, I am going through

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Speaker 2: something that is excruciating, and it's still excruciating, and that

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Speaker 2: doesn't get taken away.

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Speaker 1: But you know, but building the relationship with God is

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Speaker 1: not to take away the bad things in your life.

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Speaker 1: Bad things will continue to happen. It's to have that

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Speaker 1: pillar to lean on and to have that strength and

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Speaker 1: that promise that bolsters you, that builds you up in

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Speaker 1: a way to be able to take those trials or

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Speaker 1: those Shakespearean slings and arrows that you take on every day.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you say being my pillar, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think of the Lord as my pillar in knowing that

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Speaker 2: I will be in the end, everything's going to come

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Speaker 2: out okay. And when I am in heaven, everything will

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Speaker 2: be okay. But it's really hard when I'm going through

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Speaker 2: something that is so painful to connect because it doesn't

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Speaker 2: make it any less painful, you know. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't just believe it all. It's just I don't want

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Speaker 2: the things that I'm experiencing that are horrible sometimes too

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Speaker 2: well to be so horrible. It's like, it's okay if

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Speaker 2: they happen, but you know, I just need it to

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Speaker 2: not maybe be so horrible sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Well, God is not anesthesia. God is there not to

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Speaker 1: numb you from the things of this world. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, it's not just about the promise at

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Speaker 1: the end. Otherwise, why did God put you here? There's

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Speaker 1: things to learn here, and part of the learning process

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Speaker 1: is learning to rely on God, to lean on God

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Speaker 1: through times of pain. If you're not doing that, yes,

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Speaker 1: it retards the relationship. And I and I know that

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Speaker 1: you're going you have there's this disconnect in your logic.

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Speaker 1: There's some disconnect in what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I realize you said you are an abuse survivor that

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Speaker 1: was at the hands of a parent.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there were a number of things that were going on.

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Speaker 2: There was a hazing during my school years, and there

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Speaker 2: was some incest, although I actually think the hazing was worse.

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Speaker 1: In that when you're dealing with peers in one case

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Speaker 1: and then dealing with people that you should trust, that

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Speaker 1: skews how you see life. Most certainly, YEA God transcends

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Speaker 1: those things. And often because of the term, you know,

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Speaker 1: of things, those terms, people kind of apply them in

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Speaker 1: those common roles in life. And when there's problems in

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Speaker 1: their childhood, whether it be with a parent, parent or

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Speaker 1: connect with God because of that. But you're reasoning that

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Speaker 2: Well, what am I relying on the Lord for? I

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Speaker 2: already know you know that it's going to come out

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Speaker 2: in the end, But what is he doing for me now?

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Speaker 2: If I'm going through something that is excruciating? Now, He's

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Speaker 2: not anesthesia, So what am I turning to him for?

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Speaker 1: For strength, for the ability to get through it, for

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Speaker 1: understanding if there's something to understand, or even better, to

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Speaker 1: direct you away from things that might cause that, Because

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Speaker 1: there may be things that you bring into your life

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Speaker 1: as well, in addition to the garbage that comes by

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Speaker 1: way of someone else or someone else's decision or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But you have got in your life actively as a

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Speaker 1: participant to help guide you away from things that might

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Speaker 1: be a problem or painful, to help you as an

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Speaker 1: alarm system, to alarm your body, your senses, your spirit

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Speaker 1: when you're getting into areas that might not be safe,

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Speaker 1: and we're good to comfort you and give you strength

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Speaker 1: in the areas that you can't control when there's pain,

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Speaker 1: something to give you to dip into that hope of

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Speaker 1: the promise of heaven, to dip into that hope here

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Speaker 1: on earth and utilize that to build you strength during

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Speaker 1: those times, to get you into the times of normalcy

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Speaker 1: or into a time of peace, to get you through that,

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Speaker 1: to know that you're not alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, why would you reject those things, Why

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Speaker 1: would you not want those things in your life? Granted,

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Speaker 1: as I said, God is not anesthesia. God is not

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Speaker 1: there to numb you to life. But it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that God. I mean, friends do the same thing. Friends

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Speaker 1: help guide you, friends comfort you through times of pain.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna reject everybody in your life because pain's

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Speaker 1: gonna be there? That doesn't make sense. Why would you

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Speaker 1: do that with God? If you wouldn't do that with

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Speaker 1: regular relationships? Do you not call people when you're in pain?

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Speaker 1: Do you not have friends that you lean on or

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Speaker 1: people that you trust? No, Well, then that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You don't have it in your life in any way,

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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess you know nobody can fix anything, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not about fixing things. You're human, You're broken.

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Speaker 1: By definition. Life hurts, it does. You enter this world

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Speaker 1: the pain of your own. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Right, because there are people that took pleasure in causing

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Speaker 1: harm to you, and that was wrong, and I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that you experienced those things. But there is a lot

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Speaker 1: of love and support and a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: would love to be there for you, and if you

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Speaker 1: don't let them in, you're missing You're missing a huge part.

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Speaker 1: You're missing the the end to the yang. You're missing

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Speaker 1: the beautiful part on the other side of people coming

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Speaker 1: together in time of pain and people loving on one another,

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Speaker 1: and you're missing that. And you're focusing on the ugly

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Speaker 1: thing and only getting the ugly thing. And I wish

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Speaker 1: you would branch out. I wish you would allow people

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Speaker 1: in me included. I know that people like to overly

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Speaker 1: spiritualize things, and it seems that you try and separate

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Speaker 1: and kind of vice versa, and they go hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: God purposely puts you on earth if God wanted you to.

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Speaker 1: If it was only about the promise or only about

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Speaker 1: the end result, then God wouldn't have created this journey

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Speaker 1: for you, an often beautiful journey that sometimes is painful,

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Speaker 1: and this purposeful journey is there for you to learn

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Speaker 1: things and to know God and to connect with God better.

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Speaker 1: It's not about well I believe, And I'm just going

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Speaker 1: and I'll deal with this place. But I don't really

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Speaker 1: You've got to be here and you've got to deal

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Speaker 1: you to learn from them in that sense. I don't

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Speaker 1: want you to be them. Those that reject, those that

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Speaker 1: people become their own God. Think about those the atheists

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Speaker 1: own life. They may not believe in God, but trust me,

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Speaker 1: they have a religion and they have their own things

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Speaker 1: that they focus on in their life. But this life

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Speaker 1: has a purpose and God wants to be a part

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Speaker 1: of that purpose alongside you. Kerry, Welcome to the Jesus

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Speaker 4: Hi Jesus, thank you for taking my call, and thank

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Speaker 4: you for everything, all the blessings in my life life

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Speaker 4: good for bad.

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Speaker 1: In the augly well, praise God. How can I help

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Speaker 4: I have a life situation that went from bad to

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Speaker 1: Thank you, well, hallelujah, let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: Beginning of the year I was well, this year. I

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Speaker 4: was well into my fourth year of unemployment. I was

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Speaker 4: in May. I was looking at eviction from my humble

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Speaker 4: that I had heard could help me with that. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: walked the mile home from there, the first half of

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Speaker 4: the mile crying and being upset and wondering why God

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Speaker 4: mile I walked home praying. I got home, was dejected

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Speaker 4: for a job, for an application that had been floating

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Speaker 2: My goodness, in July, I got that job.

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Speaker 1: Oh praise God. That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So it's not always easy to live by face as

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Speaker 4: opposed to by sight, but it does happen.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, so, and isn't that interesting sometimes?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: It's often people ask, well, why doesn't God want this

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Speaker 1: for my life? And we have to remind them that

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Speaker 1: God does want that for your life. But it may

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Speaker 1: not be the same time frame that you think, and

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Speaker 1: to hear things like that, and I appreciate you, Carrie

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Speaker 1: a calling and sharing your story because to hear things

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Speaker 1: like you had a you know, a resume, an application,

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Speaker 1: what have you floating around for a year before you

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Speaker 1: ever got response on it, before you ever heard back,

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Speaker 1: or any of those things is a testament to patience

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Speaker 1: and to your faith because you just don't know. And

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason God wanted to teach you that patience

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Speaker 1: or understanding of spending time with Him during that time,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was, that you learned it and you're back

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: How can I help you.

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Speaker 3: I'm an eighty three year old woman and I'm revisiting

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Speaker 3: I have different thoughts now. I would never leave all

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Speaker 3: I've thought about that. No, I don't think it's punitive.

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Speaker 1: Don't think there's anything wrong with that, Okay. I think

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Speaker 3: Frankly, it seems as though she was always more attached.

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