WEBVTT - 1-28-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.320 I don't have to tell you how dang cold was outside. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.720 It's gonna be dang cold for another couple of weeks 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.680 at this point. And everything's well and good until you 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.880 get that Duke energy built. We saw duke hike rates 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.920 over the summer, and after the last cold samp we had, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.360 it was brutal for a lot of people. And we're 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.440 talking a substantial increase in our energy costs. Wait till 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.279 we get hit that this two week stretch. It's gonna 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.080 make it even worse. Crying uncle, how do you make 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.040 it better? How do you balance out the need to 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.200 stay alive inside your home and also keep those energy 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.680 costs down? And furthermore, what is the optimal setting for 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.440 your thermostat? What's the right temperature on That is David Waski. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.240 He's the home editor for CNET and joining the show 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.440 this morning. How are you welcome. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.080 I'm well, thanks for having me. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.320 Yeah, So lots of unpack here. Energy costs are going up. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.159 I think nationally is something like four percent. We got 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.440 hit over the summer here in the Tri State and 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.560 as well as Kentucky and Indiana. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:56.960 So what is that magic number? 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.840 By the way, is that I've always heard sixty eight 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.480 is that still the swee spot? 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.039 Sixty eight is still the sweet spot? Can you know, 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.039 manage that temperature and not go too much higher? You're 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.520 liable to shave some money off your monthly energy bill. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.880 One of the keys that is really keeping it consistent, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.480 especially when you're home and up. Dropping that temperature a 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.520 few degrees when you go to bed or leave the 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.920 house is okay. But if you go much lower then 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.919 let's say six to seven degrees, you're going to spend 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.360 a lot more energy getting back up to that comfort 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.680 zone and it won't be worth it. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.400 Is that based on actual energy efficiy science and comfort 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.440 studies are just like an arbitrary number. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:44.560 No, it's based on studies gunned. You know a lot 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.320 of people will say that they, you know, prefer to 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:52.560 keep the house higher in the seventies, but you know, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.280 the research has shown that that sixty eight degrees is 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.520 very adjustable. People can adjust to it pretty easy, and 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:08.320 you know there's a lot of positive feedback for that 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.520 particular number. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.640 Yeah, about older people like Brian Culembs for example, tends 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.000 to be cold when it's like seventy seventy two degrees, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.440 So what about that. I mean, that's the reality, right. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.880 Yeah, I mean, listen, it's not a one size fits 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.240 all solution for everybody. There are people that are just 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.520 going to need to keep the house a little bit warmer. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.760 But you will be surprised if can, you know, maybe 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.280 little by little crank that number down a few degrees, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.120 you might be surprised at how quickly you adjust to 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.640 a bit of a lower number. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:40.680 Gotcha. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.800 Now we live in the day where everyone has a 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.960 well most everyone has a programmable thermostat, and that actually 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.359 pays yourself, doesn't it. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:49.760 It does. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.440 So the thermostats not only give you, you know, really 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.680 useful real time feedback that they can you know, alert 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.720 you to any sort of fluctuations which might signal that 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.240 your thermostat is in the wrong place. Another really useful 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.320 feature of the smart thermostat you can adjust it, you know, remotely. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.480 So let's see you left for a long weekend and 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.320 you forgot to turn the thermost down, thermostat down, you know, 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.720 to the to the optimal I'm not home temperature. You 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.639 can do it remotely. You can also get it cranked 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.520 out before you get home, so you're not wasting as 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.079 much energy trying to get the thermostat. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:28.680 So high so quickly. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.720 So you know, incremental increases and decreases in the thermostat 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.080 are much better for energy efficiency than let's say, going 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.880 from fifty to sixty eight in one hour. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:41.400 And now wonderful too. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.800 Like NaSTA, I just got an Echo B for our 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.520 house we moved into because I wanted that control and 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.960 that comfort. But these are the self learning ones too 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.160 as well. And that thing was I pretty close to 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.600 two hundred dollars, very very expensive. How long before something 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.640 I have to pay for itself? 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.800 You know, it kind of depends on your climate and how. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.119 Much energy you're using. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:05.360 But our smart thermostot expert Tyler Lacomac, you get crunched 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.200 some numbers, and you know, for some people, let's say 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.960 you have for so oil and colder climate, I mean 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.760 you could make that money back up in half a year, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:16.320 if not long. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.240 That's pretty cool. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.760 And the reason I went with the Echo by David 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.880 Watsk is because you guys had seen it, said that's 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.040 your highest rated smart thurstad, So I listened to you guys. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:25.200 Had seen it. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.520 Oh, we appreciate that a lot of work went into 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:29.640 making those picks. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.719 Yeah, all of the geeky sciences of it too. But 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.080 you guys are on top of stuff, all right, and 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.000 that's a smart but but you know how many people 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.440 have a smart thermostat that they're like, I don't know 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.320 how this thing works the settings. Eventually, especially with the 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.200 NaSTA or the Equoby, it kind of learns and it's 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.320 a mystery to me as how that happens. How do 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.680 they learn where you are and what your patterns are. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:50.360 It doesn't have a. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:56.240 Camera on it, no, it has catched to your your phone, 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.400 so it uses a lot of that geo location technology 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.480 to keep cabs on where you are and what's going on. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.599 But even more so, it learns your routines. So it 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:14.680 learns when you're changing the thermostat and you know how 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:19.600 that's how that sort of squares against what the the 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.480 tempera joined the house was and learn those patterns so 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.720 it can make suggestions to keep things running a bit 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:32.039 more efficiently and keep you in the comfort zone consistently. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.840 Yeah, that's cool because the one I had is a 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.000 couple sensors. You put like one sensor go in the 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.839 bedroom and we have an upstairs downstairs, so in the 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.520 lower level we put one down there, and that is 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.960 when it senses when you're down there, it'll change the 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.120 the heating or cooling patterns based on where you are 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.159 in the house at the time, and that allegedly saves 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:47.520 you money. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:48.200 We'll see. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:49.960 And I know part of this thing too is a 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.040 lot of the smart thermostats or they recommend and you 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.720 guys have seen I recommend you want to turn to 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.840 your thermostat during the day back like seven to ten 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.720 degrees when you're not home and for the time you're gone, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.640 if it's eight ten hours a day, whatever it is, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.880 you can save some money. And and that's is that 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:10.560 significant chunk of change, by the way. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.200 Yeah, again it's all be you know, kind of dependent 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:19.120 on your fuel, energy source and and your climate. And yeah, significant, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.120 About ten percent is the kind of rough number if 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.120 you are consistent about turning that down when you're gone 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.800 for more than five six hours. Not every everybody remembers 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.359 to do it, but a smart service that can certainly 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.080 help you can get that set on a schedule and 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.200 start taking money on energy. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.080 And placement is another issue too. Typically, you know, buy house, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.200 they place it on a wall somewhere, but sometimes I've 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.880 talked to HVAC contractors David Watski that said, yeah, you 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.200 need to relocate this thermo set. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:49.039 It's in the wrong place. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.800 Yeah, absolutely, I mean the main the big thing is 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.480 anywhere with you know, temperature fluctuations, major temperature fluctuations is 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.480 going to throw things off pretty wildly. Any any drafted yours. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.800 Windows that are consistently open for any reason, kitchens are 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.800 are a no go. Bathrooms or a no go. You 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.880 really want an interior wall somewhere that people are Often 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:14.200 a room that you know is is uh is used often. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.560 A living room is great, certain hallways, but yeah, first 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:24.080 floor uh, no temperature fluctuations and an interior wall is key. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.880 Yeah, keep it away from doors and obviously in windows. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.200 All we talked about that. Where are you on space heaters? 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:33.280 So? 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.600 I think space heaters are great. They're really good for 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.480 their shoulder season. So let's say you have a large house, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.560 you only use part of it instead of firing up 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.080 that whole house heat. I mean a lot of people 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.680 have zone heating, some people don't. A space heater can 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.720 be a great foil for those early and late season 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.680 you know, bloated energy bills. They're not a They're not 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.119 a replacement for whole house eater in the middle of winter, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.520 but they really can keep you from having to turn 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.600 on the heat during those shoulder seasons. We found that 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.120 the average space heater costs about twenty cents to run 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.880 per hour. You compare that with the average size home, 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.240 and you know, for oil and forest air heat, that's 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.960 about triple the cost of running a space heater. So 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.120 if you can, if you can use it as a 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.600 kind of you know, of a foil against that those 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:31.680 early cold spells or chili spells, it's it's going to 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.719 be a big money saver for. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.840 Someone's listenings going, well, why don't I just turn my 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.200 furnace off and get like twenty space heaters? 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.280 Well, twenty space heaters. You can do the math twenty 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.840 per hour to run each one. The numbers unfortunately don't work. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.439 Gotcha whole house but an area you're in a lot. 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.679 Right, Yeah, exactly, that's right. And for folks who do 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.719 like it warm, as you mentioned, you know, sixty hs 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.400 feels a little too chili, you know, adding a space 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.080 heater especially affortable and that you can maybe bring bring 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.040 around the house with you to different rooms. You plan 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.600 on spending time in is a much better option than 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.720 you know, cranking that heat up to eighty that's just 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.959 going to kill you again. Again, it depends on your 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.720 your your fuel site, but in general that that's going 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:19.560 to be a safe right. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.400 Is it a false economy though, if it's a fire hazard, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.280 because you know, having some knowledge of this stuff, I 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.920 know that space heaters are a big cause of uh, 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.480 you know, home fires and the like, or apartment fires 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.040 because you know, somebody may say it too close to 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.520 drape or something like that, and the tipover thing can 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.439 be a concern. But today they all have a sensor 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:38.760 and it doesn't allow you to tip it over. It 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.240 cuts the power off. But the firefighters will tell you 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.040 that that is a concern. And you get space heaters 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.320 out there, kerosene heaters and the like, there's a danger 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.240 to it. And you get lulled on a sense of 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.720 complacency because it has a tipover function, but you gotta 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:51.079 be careful. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.440 Yeah, we don't recommend any of the kerosene models. I 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.920 think they're honestly even hard to find these days. They've 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.120 gotten a lot safer. As you said, the sensor or 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.640 our sensors are are really helpful tip over and turn off. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.600 They'll often turn off if they're if they're on for 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.640 more than a few hours, just in case, you know, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.680 you forget to have it on. But that that being said, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.959 space here safety is really important. We have a bunch 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.599 of of articles we published on space heater safety. You 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.480 don't want to plug them into UH extension cords ever, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.959 you want to give them their own outlet. You want 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.120 to make sure they're, as you said, in a space 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.960 where they're not near any flammable drapes or or or 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.960 other materials, and keep an eye on them. Again, they're 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.640 not a full winter solution. You don't want to have 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.640 them running overnight while you're sleeping, so they should be 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.800 used sparingly. But the good news is that they're not expensive. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.679 So you know to test one out and see if 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.080 it does work to help trim your energy bills. Do 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:56.120 it cautiously. We found that it can be helpful. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.679 Yeah, the is there a typical I mean, because it's 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.800 a different time, right, there's a ceramic ones, there's the 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.000 one with the infrared. Is there one that's more preferable 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:04.800 from you guys, I've seen it. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:12.440 Infrared is probably the safest. I like the coils. I 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.560 find that they generate heat a bit better than the infrared. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.440 There's a particular model right now, and I'm blinking on 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.200 the name. Sorry, it's Dreo. Just came out with a 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.240 really great coil infrared heater and it has an oscillating 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.320 feature like a fan, so it blows, it blows the 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.439 hot air all over the room. I was actually just 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.000 testing it over the weekend. I had some family in town. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.719 I had this not heated finished space above the garage, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.600 and it warmed up that probably six hundred square foot 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.280 space in thirty minutes or less, and we were all 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.160 toasty warm. So they have gotten a lot more efficient, 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.400 a lot more powerful, and a lot more safe. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:50.160 Yeah. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.240 David Watski was seen at He's a Home in Kitchen 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.720 managing editor or talking about saving money this season. As 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.200 you know that Duke Energy hiked their rates pretty high 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.360 this summer and we're going to start feeling it here 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.840 with the colder months here and uh uh, and setting 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.480 that the thermostats sixty seems to be the magic temperature, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.520 and you can get some space heaters and make sure 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.800 the thermostats are as smart smart thermostats work really well 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.880 as too. But of course, the core of this thing 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.120 is the h V A C C system. And at 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.640 what point should you be thinking about replacing that? What's 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.480 typically the service life or something like that. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.840 We depends on the system that you have. What what 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.200 what key year or a year is to make sure 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.040 that it is runing as efficiently as possible, and that 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.400 means getting you know, professionals coming to inspect it, replacing 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:41.600 filters once a year, having your ducks cleaned is important, 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.000 something a lot of people don't think about, but those 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.680 those really can block things up and cause major spikes 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.200 in your in your monthly totals. So be sure to 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.360 take advantage of any you know, service contracts that you 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:02.440 have with your energy supplier and and see what can 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.120 be done by you yourself to make sure things are 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.280 running as smoothly as possible. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.720 Yeah, and today there's furnaces now that I think that 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.959 the best one is as like ninety nine percent efficiency. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.480 You're seeing, you know, ninety seven percent ninety eight, ninety 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.480 nine percent, which is incredible compared to where things were 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.679 maybe fifteen years ago. So that maybe and it's it's 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.360 certainly a huge cost right now, They like with anything. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.640 Over the summer with tariffs, we saw the replacement costs 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.800 now just spike going way way up. So but again 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.920 you're throwing moneyway and heating bills could go towards a 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.200 new high efficiency system. I mean some people will bite 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.960 the bullet and do that. But yeah, you know, make 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.880 sure that the filter is a big one too, just 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.079 making sure it's clean. You know, I don't even to 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:43.719 get a year out of a filter, maybe if had 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.800 electrostatic one or something like that, but you want to 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.480 be looking at it once a month just to make sure. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.040 And doing the biannual service plan has been great. I 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.960 highly recommend that seeing you know, things break down the 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.240 way they do. They come in the fall, they come 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.040 in the spring and clean it out and then if 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.040 something goes south, you're in, you know, one of the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.640 first people online for service. So getting that service contract 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.560 is affordable that it's a good way to keep your 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.640 system running and saving you money, because if you don't, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.880 you're just throwing money literally out the. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.240 Flu Absolutely right. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.280 Yeah, David Watski's seen at home and kitchen managing get her. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.440 Thanks again for the time, really important stuff. Maybe you 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.840 save a few bucks by hearing this today, David, thanks again. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.880 All right, thank Scot be well my friend. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.480 Good to have you back. Good to have you back. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.720 Yeah, you're thinking about the energy bill that's going to 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:32.280 come this next couple of weeks. You better gird your 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.720 loins for that. When that, I mean, honestly, as expensive 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.360 as the last cold snap we had was. I wonder 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.840 people's like two weeks of this is going to be. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.920 Like I wonder if I you know that vacation I 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.960 was planning, I know that long weekend I was having. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.600 I got to pay my duke bill. It's gotten that 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.240 expensive and this cold snap definitely failed. So do everything 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.320 you possibly can to keep all that money in your pocket. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.040 And I would say I highly suggest if you're going 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.280 to bite the bullet outside of a furnace, which is 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.360 extremely expensive. The programmable thermostats and some of the early 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.040 ones that worked, okay, like the need it learns where 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.760 you are on nest thermoistats. Well, I got the echo 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.560 Bee model that I have now with the two sensors. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.840 Pretty expensive. But still, you know, I've been looking at 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.280 how much money I've spent, and god, I kind of 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:15.080 noticed even in the. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.280 New house a little bit of a difference. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.720 So over time, I think I have no problem investing 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.080 and someone's going to pay me back, and I think 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.320 that's going to pay dividends for sure. Although it does 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.040 tell you, like remember in Duke, I don't think i'd 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.840 do it anymore. Duke would send you every month that 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.960 bill that would say, well, this is where your energy 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.480 is compared to other houses in your neighborhood. Not about you, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.200 but mine looked like I was leaving all the doors 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:38.200 and windows open, like going crazy, and that was driving 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.640 me nustrual. I don't do that anymore, I thin, because 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.280 I've tossed so many people off and the same is 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.200 true with this. It gives you a month by month breakdown, says, okay, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.880 here's how much energy you spend versus other houses, not 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.120 in your neighborhood but around the country. Or they sell 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:52.960 these thermostats, and you know, I'm like in the bottom 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.960 fifty percent list, I'm not in the bottom twenty five, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.040 you know below. And it got me through school, so 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.960 I was just, you know, just a below average student. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.360 So I guess I should be fine with it. Either 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.920 academics are eating and cooling. I'm about the same. I'd 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.800 like to be in that top you know ninety percent 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.400 That means I have to spray foam the entire I'm 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.880 gonna have to live inside a tent, inside a tent 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.400 basically for that to happen. Put a dome over my house. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.000 The only woman knew that top ninety percent and name 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.000 no one saving money these days, ask for sure with 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.080 this cold snap. Got to get to a news update 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.760 here in just second. Scott's Loan on seven hundred WLW. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.280 Good morning, I'm Scott's Loan. This is seven hundred wwty. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.240 Thanks for checking out the show on air and of 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.280 course streaming anywhere you go. Reportable these days on the 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.360 iHeartRadio app and you can catch a show afterwards too. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.280 It's podcast will make get easy for it, Easy Easy Easy. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.920 Today is an historic day because this landmark moment, this 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.440 tragedy occurred forty years ago today. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:17:01.880 It happened just over one minute inch of flight. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.200 One minute fifteen seconds flantidi twenty nine hundred pet per second, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.200 altitude nine aautical mouth down Ray's distant seven nautical. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:13.840 Miles from mission control. Silence. Then the Bland chilling report. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.639 We have a report from the flight dynamics officer that 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:17.920 the vehicle has exploded. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.359 Flight director confirms that we're looking at checking with the 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.520 recovery forces to see what can be done. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.080 At this point, a search effort couldn't begin for some 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.320 fifteen minutes after this debris. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.280 They said, just kept raining from the sky. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.400 The head of the Space Shuttle program had no explanations, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:35.920 just sorrow at the tragedy. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.600 I vividly remember when that happened. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.520 For a lot of folks, it might have been school kids, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.439 and still even more folks don't remember it because they 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.800 happened outside their lifespan. But I'll remember that like I 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.600 remember nine to eleven. And how do we get to 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.320 this point? We've got this great space race going out 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.679 right now, of course privately speaking, but everything we know 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.159 about space and how to get to outer space and 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.560 travel is written in blood, writing about it in the 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.080 Burning Lewis Kevin Cook, Kevin, welcome to the show. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:03.320 Hi, Scot, how are you. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:04.120 I'm doing fine? 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.040 Hopefully I set that up well enough for you to 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.879 tying those things together. But I think there's something to 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.919 be said about that, right, is that we're in the 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.200 new space race, but it's private space race between ultra 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.280 the ultra rich doesn't mean they're going to cut corners, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.919 but man, you know, when you're competitive like this, these 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:20.760 are the things that happen. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.080 Right. I think you set it up just right, and 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.240 it's an exciting time in space exploration. I think these 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.400 are eventually going to be public private partnerships. I think 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.919 we'll see SpaceX and NASA working together, Blue Origin, Virgin 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.879 Galactic and NASA working together. We're gonna have Moon missions again, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:46.159 and in before too many decades past a Mars mission 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.800 with human crew on it. And there is going to 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.520 be schedule pressure again. There are going to be engineer's warning, well, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.920 I have concerns about this or that aspect of the machinery, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:04.000 and again, these things are going to crop up. There 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.800 is a program at NASA now called the Lessons Learned 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:14.399 program that encourages listeners to remember things like disasters like 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.600 the Challenger accident, so that we don't have such a 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:18.399 thing happen again. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.600 Well, and the lesson here coming out of the Burning 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.080 Blue and the Challenger disaster, is that why CHRISTA. Mcculloff 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.000 was on that flight to begin with. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.959 That's true, it was it had aspects of a publicity 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.879 effort on NASA's part after Sally r made worldwide news 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.199 in nineteen eighty three, is the first American woman in space. 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.879 Shuttle flights came to seem routine, and NASA was eager 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.600 to have the teacher in space, the first civilian to 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.639 fly on a Shuttle mission, and Christa mcculliff, to her 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.879 great credit, I think understood that she was wonderful on television. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.959 She was since here. She was herself, but she had 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.280 a purpose to a cause. She didn't want to get famous. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.040 She wanted to promote the cause of school teachers. She 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.680 was an active school teacher, a great one. She felt 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:15.560 that teachers were overworked and underpaid. I think that's true 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.880 even more so today. So she inspired an awful lot 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.399 of people to become teachers. I think that's one of 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.560 the things that we can take from a story like 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.520 the Challenger disaster in nineteen eighty six. There are a 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:33.120 lot of teachers, dedicated teachers who followed her example who 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.159 are still teaching today. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.760 Yeah, I remember that moment. I think we all did it. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.840 If you're old enough too, or if you just go back. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.480 It was an excellent documentary on this. I think it 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.359 was on Netflix or maybe HBO, but yeah, Netflix, it 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.439 was great about that whole story too, because, man, you 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.560 remember what it was like being a little kid, and 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.480 you know everyone was following, here's a teacher. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:54.000 I've got a teacher. It's like my teacher. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:54.200 Right. 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.480 You could identify as a kid with Christa mccauliffe and 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.280 every kid in America at that moment that morning, that 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.760 cold morning sat there and watched it on TV when 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.320 they rolled a big old CRT two TV in the 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.200 classroom and everyone's watching the Challenger and or everyone clapped 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.520 them so excited, and then there was a catastrophe. And 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.320 you want to talk about traumatic moment in your childhood, 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:17.920 that's it right there. 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.600 That's true. I've encountered so many people who remember exactly 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.399 where they were as I do when we started to 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:29.640 see what had happened. The one thing that the television 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.879 documentary did not address was the fact that when that 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.919 awful explosion happened and the pitchfork in the sky that 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.439 we all saw on television, that was not the end 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.199 of the astronauts. They survived that moment that was the 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:46.879 explosion of the fuel tank. They survived for another probably 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.760 two full minutes and forty five seconds trying to regain 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.400 control of the craft, which was impossible as it turned out. 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.920 I think they were heroic in any case, and trying 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:01.679 to reconstruct what happened after the exposion, between that and 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.119 the moment that actually killed the Challenger astronauts, which was 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.080 when the falling of Shuttle struck the Atlantic at two 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.920 hundred and seven miles per hour. Reconstructing those moments was 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.600 one of the more grueling and also fascinating aspects of 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.520 working on the Burning Blue. 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.960 Yeah, and on that day in January nineteen eighty six 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.639 and watching that so they were alive, didn't die instantly. 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.960 Were they aware that they were about to crash into 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.680 the ocean at over two hundred miles an hour, which 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:32.679 is fatal. 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.480 It's likely that they were. That there was no escape, 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:38.760 That there were ejector seats in the very first Shuttle 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.120 missions that became impractical later, that you can't have seven 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.800 people ejecting, There was no escape, there were no parachutes. 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:52.480 Those escape methods were built in after the Challenger disaster, 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.080 and they're going to need to be part of these 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.400 new efforts that we make, I think to the near 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:02.879 future missions to the Moon and Mars to learn the 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.800 lesson of the Challenger disaster and not repeat it. 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.359 What's scary is listening to that audio, the cockpit voice recorder, 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.520 and I think it was Michael Smith that that saw 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:18.200 that basically saw the catastrophic moment happen. And I think 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.359 the last words on that recording were something like oh no, 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.000 or it. 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.200 Was oh he said. And then for weeks after the accident, 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.800 it was believed that the last words from the Challenger 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:36.600 flight deck were Roger go and throttle up. It was 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:42.960 only later that it was understood it was assembled the 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:48.040 audio from the flight deck that Michael Smith must have 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.359 seen something just in the instance before all of the 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:56.000 electricity and the communications went out. Uh, and his last 0:23:56.200 --> 0:24:00.320 words were, oh, that is the last thing that that 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.320 was ever heard from the ass Challenger astronauts. 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.040 Kevin Cook, the Burning Blue, the un storied, untold Sir 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.640 of Chrystal mcauliffin, the NASA Challenger disaster. 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.439 But there's a lesson, just a history. 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.720 It's also private based travel now with the Bezos and 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.040 the Branson's and the Musks of the world, and you 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.399 know that there's tremendous, tremendous pressure to perform here too. 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.679 That was the lesson from the NASA Challenger disaster is 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.800 there are a lot of warning signs ahead of this. 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.040 One of those is the fact that, as I recall 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.399 that the launch itself was delayed many times because of 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:33.359 weather or other issues. 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.639 Correct, that's just right. And there was the debacle the 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:41.200 day before in which the launch was scrubbed because a 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.080 bolt malfunctioned in the hatch store, a bolt that you 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.639 could have replaced that you'd gone to the local hardware store. 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.320 Nobody could get to the local hardware store from the 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.480 launch pad that day. They had to wait until the 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:57.520 next day. The next day was far colder, dangerously cold. 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.600 And yet the decision is made to launch anyway because 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:06.720 of terrible schedule pressure, partly because of embarrassment to the agency, 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.160 because of what had happened in the scrubs that came 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:14.440 before this. These are all things that are going to 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.639 have to be born in mind by people who are 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.760 making launch decisions in our near future. 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.280 If the weather were warmer that day in January. Now, 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.360 to keep in mind, what January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six. 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.560 You're in Florida, but extremely cold by Florida standards. If 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.480 it would have been a few degrees warmer, would we 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:32.640 have not had this disaster. 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.159 I think it's likely, and there's certainly a great chance 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:41.359 that had it been normal weather for Florida that January. 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:47.320 There had been other missions that something similar happened with 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.480 the old rings. There was what was called blow by, 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:54.440 and certainly it might have happened had it been colder 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.080 in previous missions. I think it's one of the unknowables, 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:02.200 but there is a very good chance that they would 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.760 have been lucky again, as as more than two dozen 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:11.280 previous Shuttle missions. Uh, two dozen previous missions had had 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.360 had some trouble, many of them, but they made it back. 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.639 That's why the Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Fineman said 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.840 that previous missions had essentially been playing Russian roulette with 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:22.760 the astronauts. 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.359 Well, the issue then came down they had a president 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.800 a presidential commission. I believe on the on the O ring, right, 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.439 and so the O ring you have the solid rocket 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.160 boosters and that is the that's what's powering you into 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.280 space at several hundred miles an hour. 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:37.920 Uh. 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:39.639 If you have a leak in one of these rubber 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.359 O rings, you got problems. And uh, they uncovered a 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:46.120 momo from Morton Thaia call the the engineers, the project 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.040 engineers on this thing. And if you saw the documentary 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.399 in the book, you detail this about engineers screaming for 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.800 help for please, like we're going to have a catastrophic failure. 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.960 People are going to die. Uh in that teme to fruition. 0:26:58.040 --> 0:26:58.960 Take me through that part of it. 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.680 Well, there was a teleconference the night before in which 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.520 the engineers said, uh that they had they had great 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.679 worries and they would not sign on to to a launch. 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:15.439 The next morning, their managers pressured them to uh to 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.359 change their minds, and eventually they did. It's one of 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.720 those things that one has to if you put yourself 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.480 in their shoes, if you could say I've got great 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:27.800 concerns about this, then then the managers may say, well, 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.880 what about the last dozen missions that went off without 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.920 a hitch. You were in a terrible position if if 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.560 you if you uh say I'm against this, and then 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.960 they launched anyway and nothing bad happens. They were certainly 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.560 vindicated by circumstance. And that's why there's a program called 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.919 the Lessons Learned program in NASA now saying we've got 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.040 to support engineers, support people who are willing to say 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.880 this is too dangerous, let's fix the problem before we launched. 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.200 Well, there were signs with other missions, right and tests 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.080 that that indicated the lowering was failing. 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.000 Correct, that that's right, and the the idea that that 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.000 one says. Well. Uh, they they looked like they were failing, 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.760 but nobody got killed in the previous visions. That's the 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.520 Russian roulette aspect of the they came back. There was 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.440 a task force studying the old ring problem at more 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:22.720 than diacol, studying and studying, but uh, it wasn't seen 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.760 as important enough to delay, and he launches while the 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:26.760 studying was done. 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.400 Explain explain how the rubber o ring and the cold 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:31.040 weather go to go. 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:32.680 What caused the explosion? 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:37.760 It's stiffened as Uh. Richard Feinman demonstrated so beautifully on 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.960 television during the Presidential Commission. Uh. He had a glass 0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.960 of ice water. He got a piece of rubber from 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.480 the old ring difted in there. Showed how it's not 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.120 as elastic when it's cold, like like a lot of 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.360 other things. Uh, it gets denser, Uh and not flexible. 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:53.040 Uh. 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.880 So it was in the cold, it was unable to 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.320 to uh to prevent the leak. The leak leads to 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.840 a plume of flame that then burns right through that 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:06.640 didn't hide and outer covering of the external tank, and 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:08.960 that causes the giant explosion we saw on TV. 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.600 Yeah, and we finally have some closure in that too. 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.840 But I think the interesting part about it is really 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.960 how little the families were awarded. 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.160 Yes, and I mean I think it's hard to sue 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.920 the government, and several of the crew members were members 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.600 of the armed forces. That plays into it as well. 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.920 There were settlements. They didn't make news because there really 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.360 wasn't much space program news in the two and a 0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:38.600 half years after the Challenger disaster. That's when things were 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.200 being put back together in a safer way. Of course, 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.640 before long, shuttle flights will seem routine again, pressure will 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:51.520 increase to launch and that leads to similar problems and 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.360 the Columbia disaster. 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:54.720 Yeah. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.640 The relationship there between the Columbia disaster and this is what. 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:05.200 Well, it's the fact that lessons learns need to be observed. 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.960 As Mike Tinelli and that's a wonderful person who runs 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.400 the Lessons Learned program down at Kennedy Space Center talks 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.440 about it's similar we have a presidential commission. It's a 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.320 little bit like driving a past the wreck on the highway. 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.040 You see the smoke, you see the ambulances, and then 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.800 you're driving with your hands at ten or two for 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.560 a little while. But before long, as he says, they're 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.440 back to having your foot on the wheel and the 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.840 other foot out of the window. If you forget the 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.680 crucial importance of safety in the preparation for a launch. 0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:44.840 That's what happened with Columbia after Challenger, and that's what 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:50.000 future planners are going to have to bear in mind 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:55.520 as we get to remarkably exciting and complicated missions to 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:56.280 the Moon. 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.200 And tomorrow, somebody's going to die in the future. 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.880 It's found to happen again, because yeah, we may learn 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.240 the lessons from history, but there's tremendous pressure. And look 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.120 what led to the death of the Challenger crew, right 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.480 had we got to put chrystalcoll on their teacher because 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.280 you know what, now all of a sudden, school kids 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.320 are getting interested, we get them hooked, their parents will 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.640 be interested. Hey great, we're putting someone on there for 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.280 the only reasons. It's a pr move. I don't know 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.720 what research a teacher can do in space, but nonetheless 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.680 there's an every man component to that. 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.040 It's marketing, is what this is. 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.600 And then the pressure to launch, to launch, to launch, 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.800 because we want to see chrystalmacall off in space ended 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.160 in tragically in her death. 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.560 We did the same thing with Challenger to some degree. 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.560 As well, with private space missions happening in the near future, 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.720 at some point people are going to die again, aren't they. 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.600 Well, Elon Munk seems to think so. It is a 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:50.240 risky operation. It's a risky thing to do with space exploration. 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:55.080 I think the job of NASA, the agency, as well 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.240 as it's private partners. I think these will be public 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:03.120 private partnerships the missions, especially when we're talking about Mars. 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:08.440 I think one recognizes the risk and the likelihood that 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:13.200 people may die. But for those preparing for missions like that, 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.280 your job is to do all you possibly can to 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.560 prevent that, to make them as safe as possible. That 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.800 lesson was forgotten before Challenger, and even. 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.600 With the technology of the way it is because Eli 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.600 I must have said, well, we can't have a it's 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.200 not like you have an airline pilot fly fifty sixty missions. 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.760 The human body can't withstand that. So solving that is 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:39.800 through autonomous meaning self driving aircraft, self driving spacecraft. All right, 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.880 that's all well and good, and we have more technology 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.800 and monitors and the things we did, but you still 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:48.160 can't get past the fact that that's an incredibly traumatic 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.880 procedure for any airframe to go through, and that is launching, 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.480 relaunching and making something a regularly scheduled flight. Ultimately, that's 0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.600 what they want to do here physically. Is that possible 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.000 for any aircraft? 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:07.320 H It's sure difficult. And again, the spacecraft has so 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:11.080 many parts. The space level was the most complicated machine 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.520 ever built. Well, when you have a lot of parts, 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.240 Murphy's Law stares you in the face every day with 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:23.240 every decision. That's what that's what the Elon musk, that's 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:28.840 what visos, that's what Richard Branson, that's what face looking forward. 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.800 And the lesson is it's difficult, it's complicated, it's dangerous, 0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.480 it's potentially lethal. These are things that need to be 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.400 borne in mind. Just before the word go it is 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.360 given to to send somebody into space. 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.720 Yeah, and I think it's gonna be interesting too. At 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.720 some point there's going to be a failure once again. 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.040 I don't think that means we stop trying. It means 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.120 you learn from those lessons. But if the lessons keep 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:57.000 getting repeated, as it started with the Challenger, then I 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.080 guess that that's also human nature too. We have to 0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.240 accept a certain amount of casualties if this is the price, 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.080 if this is the goal. Kevin Cook, The Burning Blue, 0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.560 The Untold Stir of Crystal Calf and NASA Challenger Disaster. 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.319 Thanks again for the time, good luck with the book. 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.800 Thank you, Scott. 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.879 I appreciate it, and it's good to be on WLW. 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.520 I grew up listening to to Al Michaels and then 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.840 Marty Brenneman and Joe Dunsallomons Big Red Machine. 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:21.080 Wow. 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.000 How about that? So you're India. We're in Indiana. 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:24.919 Indianapolis. 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.600 Oh, Indianapolis. Okay, very good. Yeah, So all the best 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:28.840 to you and thanks again. 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.399 For coming on, Kevin. 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:30.640 Thanks Gott. 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.719 Kevin Cook back on the show. It's the fortieth anniversary 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.200 of that challenge, which I have forty year Where were 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:37.040 you forty years ago? 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:37.400 Today? 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.680 Most people said, well, I wasn't born yet. Smart da touche. 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.759 Scott Sloan Show home of the Red seven hundred w Weldon. 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:51.040 Today today are making the rounds. 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.160 They are here is almost here actually third and fifth 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.319 annual Marty Graf for Homeless Children. I've been doing this 0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.200 for feels like maybe about ten years, maybe at like 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.440 half of that, I think. Anyway, is it more than that? 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.400 Come up on Fat Tuesday, February seventeen this year in 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.680 Northern Kentucky Convention Center. What happens is this, You go, 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.000 you have a good time, you all you can drink, 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.080 all you can eat, and then what happens is all 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.719 that money that's raised goes to provide more than one 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.560 hundred and fifty thousand meals for kids here in the 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:24.200 Tri state area. And that includes reach outreach for places 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.799 like Brighton Center's homewer Bound Welcome House in Covington and 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.120 Bethany House in Cincinnati. And it is that time of 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.400 year to sell some tickets here for such a good cost. 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.359 No better Valentine's Day President than this, because it's all 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.320 in and especially get a hotel across the street. Scottenly 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:43.120 knows what's going to happen institute of this morning, of course, 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.919 Gordy Snyder, the living legend himself the guy was here 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.440 for all of the Marty Grass past president and future. 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.000 He's a chairman. We've got Amy Floyd in the execut director, 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.479 Joe Burrow, my good friend Don Peperella for Mercedes Benz 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.319 of Fort Mitchell, all in studio this morning here on 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:57.239 seven hundred W Dow. 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.719 How are we, folks? We got were warm or absolutely, 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.920 we're here. We're ready to go. You're ready to rock 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:03.359 and roll. 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.040 This is, by the way, I'll point out, I mean, 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.960 this is your first year Joe Burrow Foundation as a 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.880 title sponsor. Why do you guys decide a partner with 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:10.439 us this year? 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.200 Marty gra Yeah, the mission of the Joe Burrow Foundation 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.080 is to provide resources and opportunities to the underprivileged and underserved. 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.319 And so we heard about this event. I went to 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.000 it a couple of years ago, and it just felt 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:23.719 like a natural fit for us to be a part 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:28.920 of a Marty Girl event benefiting Greater Cincinnati kids feeding 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.759 hungry people really is the is the end goal and 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:33.359 eliminating the need for. 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.080 This really well, I know Joe, you know on Athens 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.520 where he's from, to be in a rural area till 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:38.960 you see a lot of this as well, so being 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.760 able to do it here in Cincinnati speaks fomes. 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:41.080 Yeah. 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:41.440 Yeah. 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.680 His Heisman speech really shed light on the issues of 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.040 food insecurity and kids not having consistent access to healthy food, 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.200 and that was really the promise of us starting the foundation. 0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.360 And there's unfortunately hunger kids everywhere. 0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:59.239 So Cincinnati is not I think rural too, especially hit 0:36:59.280 --> 0:36:59.800 Stephen Marcus. 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:00.440 We think about that. 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:01.800 You know, all the all the resources seemed to go 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.279 to urban areas and here, you know, Cincinnati, Okay, it's 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.480 growing well and good, but in roural areas and more difficult. 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.239 So I could see them totally leaning into that. So 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.680 it's good to have you guys this year. So this 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.160 just sounds like it was a slam dunk based on 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.359 his Heisman speech. Yes, involved here, absolutely, We're excitingly gosh, 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.759 and of course Don Paparella from Mercedes Benz in Fort 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.360 Mech can't miss it if you're head down the highways 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.439 right there. We try to be everywhere if we can't, 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.160 and all time back for the umpteenth here appreciate your supporters. 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:24.879 I think it's thirteen or so. Oh wow. 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.120 We're certainly excited. This is this is our our this 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.680 is my favorite event. You know, we love giving back 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.239 the community. We love you know, helping out you know, 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.799 this charity with the three cherries that they serve, this 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.120 event is by far and away the best one and 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.680 it's kind of been our cornerstone of all of our 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.480 giving and you know that we do that and again 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.080 we try to you know, we want to make the 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:45.960 community better than when we got here. And I think 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.520 we've done a good job of that. That's kind of 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.719 been our our mantra at the dealership ever since we've 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.279 we opened up. We're like, how do we make the 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.000 area better? And this is this is a great fit 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:54.319 for us. 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.240 Yeah, and it's it was important to having local business 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.240 lean into this as well too. And it's your favorite 0:37:58.239 --> 0:37:59.759 event a year because it's such a great charity. You 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.480 see the immediate impact media impact. But I know you 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:03.640 like to come and eat and drink. 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.160 I mean I do come hungry. I'm not gonna lie. 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:07.120 I do come hungry. 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.279 And it's so I'm like, nope, no food today and 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.359 there and yes we have all. The food is unbelievable, 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.239 The drinks are great, the music's great. You know, it's 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.160 the walking around and seeing everybody seeing old friends, and 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.120 it's just absolutely wonderful. 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:22.400 Knowing you're helping folks too. And the best part is 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.759 it's it's a fairly early night. I mean, you can 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.919 start at five point thirty and it's over a ten, 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.319 but you can get you can do some damage there in. 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.160 A few short hours. You're there full by seven. Let's 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.480 just put it that way, right. You can't eat everything 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:34.960 that's in there. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.560 We make it around halfway and I'm like, that's about 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:38.480 all we're gonna be able to eat. 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:39.480 It's wonderful. I'll tell you what. 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.040 Chef Jim Jimmy curveall over at the Governor's House in 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.560 Covington did a food drop today. He's got the short rib, 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:50.120 which is amazing. He's got an incredible mushroom risota. Mushroom 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:51.880 a risotta is really really hard to get to go. 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.000 He did, he killed it, smashed potatoes. He's got the 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.879 basil butter. It's it's all working this morning, and our 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.680 staff is fat and happy on this cold, cold morning 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:02.719 to enjoy in some of this stuff. To keep your 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.120 staff on point. Yeah, I circle that. So I got 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:06.640 to go to Governor's house next time. Down to this 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.640 The food is the last couple of years have been 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.359 absolutely amazing. Let me bring in a Gordy Snyder, who's 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.280 the founding chairman of Marty Garras Benefiting Homeless Children thirty 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:14.960 five years a god. 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.200 Well Scott, First of all, thank you for being our 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.040 king once again this year. We appreciate you, know, everything 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.279 that you've done for the King. It's got to be 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.600 like what I say, Queen, I say. 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.279 King, King, King. 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.359 I think I could be queen too, I don't. Yeah, well, no, 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.600 she was your queen. Oh yeah, that's right, Chilla. She'lla 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:30.759 helped me on the last name. 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:31.200 Gray. 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.840 Oh Gray, that's right. Yeah, just say red or blue, 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.840 but gray, that's right. Yeah, local twice I saw she 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.040 she the other day. She's doing well. Yeah, I know 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:40.520 you guys are okay too much. She has a problem. 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.040 She Let me tell you something about Hill. I've don 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.560 Hill a long time. Way too much energy, I said, 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.200 God only gives you so much energy. You're gonna How 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.319 is it possible at your she's what forty? How is 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.200 it possible you have still have that much energy at 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.440 age forty? It's unbelievable. I thought she was twenty nine. 0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:55.120 I was realist. 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:58.759 Let's talk about well the history of event. 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.080 People go, okay, well, it's kind of where why why 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:02.960 Marty Grout, why homeless, skilled, holl those things? 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.360 How does that work? How does that go together? 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.720 Well, thirty six years ago, Scott there were four homeless 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:13.680 children in an abandoned garage and the father locked them 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.320 in the garage. They were all the whole family was homeless. 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.719 They started playing with matches. Unfortunately, the garage caught on fire, 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:25.960 burned down, and all four children perished. Cincinnati Public School 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.439 System came out with a study. They said at any 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.120 time during the course of a year, over the course 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.160 of a year, there could be as many as twelve 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:37.200 or fifteen thousand children in Greater Cincinnati, northern Kentucky hill gravel. 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.520 And everybody was like, wait a minute, this can't be 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:41.640 happening in Cincinnati. 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:42.319 There's no way. 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:47.359 And unfortunately, what people don't realize is homeless children are 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.319 the invisible. Children are invisible homeless. You don't you don't 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.240 see them out on the street corner with a sign. 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.000 They're honeing, they're hiding, they're running, they're runaways, They're hiding 0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:01.160 in abandoned buildings, abandoned garage, garage, cars, whatever they can 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.560 get into. And then a lot of times it's discovered 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.040 through the school system when they show up and they 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:07.719 don't have proper clothing, they haven't been. 0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:09.719 Fed, and they have moved. They So. 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.240 We decided at the Northern Kentucky Restaurant Association to start 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.319 this event to help help with homeless children. And as 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:21.120 you mentioned, it goes to three great powerhouse agencies here 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:25.200 in Greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky. We have beth Any House 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:29.680 over in Cincinnati, Brighton Center there in Newport, and and 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:33.000 also Welcome House in Covington. And so far we've raised 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.319 two point nine three million dollars over the history of 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:37.000 the event. 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.320 Two point almost three million. 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:39.920 It will be three We're going to go over three 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.160 million this year, Scott, with everybody's help. Yeah, yeah, that's incredible. 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.800 And all those it goes to one hundred and fifty 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:50.000 thousand meals, which is an incredible amount, right of pretty 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.800 much launch everyday for every kid that needs. 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.279 It, three meals a day. And then one of the 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:58.400 agency said, you also have to have snacks. 0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:01.640 Yeah right, yeah, exact play Amy Floyd, your favorite snack, 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:06.560 go Dorita's Cool Ranch or standard. 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:13.000 Good question I'd say cool ranch, really cool. Yeah, same. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:19.680 Cape cod potato chips, gotcha, gotta be reese cups, Reese's 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:24.720 cups really oh yeah, snack, oh yeah, everything. 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:28.680 I guess it's a snack. I always think savory. If 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.719 I'm doing it, I'm not on the board. I'd go 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:32.720 Doritos maybe. 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:33.080 Uh. 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.400 I'd probably throw some Cheetos in there, maybe cheat. I'm 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.560 a cheese guy, like the cheese, A savory kind of 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.200 guy as well. All right, all right, that's pretty good. 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.839 Jen Madley says there her favorite snack kl chips. She's 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.799 a heathen. I don't know what the hell's going on, 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.560 but I don't even know that's insane. 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:50.839 Well, here's the thing. 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:52.720 I don't think there'll be any kale on the menu 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.600 anywhere the five thousand restaurants we have on Mardi Gras. 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:57.719 There'll be no kale at all in there. It's but 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:58.600 but you're gonna have a good time. 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.279 So thirty fifth of Marty gra benefit homeless kids, and 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.000 it's happening fat Tuesday, February seventeenth hours. 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.719 It's five thirty right for the VIP. 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.040 Five thirty you get the big piece of chicken. 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.360 The big that's right, you get there. It's five thirties 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:14.080 a VIP that entitles you to the big piece of chicken. Right, okay, 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.160 so you get the big bed. I'm not saying that 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.319 the other sized chickens afterwards aren't sizable sized chickens, but 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:20.480 it's you get the pick of the litter. 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.959 Let's put it that way. To five three, the extra hours. 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.600 To it's important eat and probably also pregame a little 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.240 bit for the rest of the festivities. There's also Gordy. 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.759 No shortage of alcoholic beverages there either. No, there's a 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.920 lot of alcohol. There are a lot of livations we have, 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.880 you know, beer, craft beers, wine ever, you know, livations, bourbon, 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.120 you name it, you name it. There's more cocktails in 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.880 more you have a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.160 you know they give you the smaller obviously because you're 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:45.799 pasting yourself too. But all of a sudden you're like, 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:50.120 how many have I had? Everyone does that and goes, oh, 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.000 I'll be damned, it's only a Tuesday night. On top 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.640 of that as well, yeah, you should really think about it. 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.800 If you do this right, you're taking Wednesday off, correct, 0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.680 that's our recommendation. If you're doing this right, you're taking 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.480 Wednesday about right. 0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:01.880 And now of that. 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.239 Also across the street you get a hotel too, you could stay. 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.560 We've got a hotel. We also have free parking that 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.680 night thanks to Mercedes Benz a fort. 0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.120 Minute, very nice, thank you, don Don Send his team 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:12.200 will park your car personally. 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:18.520 Can I get a detailed how that rules? Right into 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:19.120 a new car. 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:23.240 So next year we're moving the conventions under two Mercedes Benz. 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.439 And Fort Mitchell right right there, right good. 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.640 We got somebody doing titles and everything right the play 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.719 go swe We got you in and out. 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.160 Not a big deal, which is good, you know, a 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:34.440 good credit, not a big deal. 0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.000 Speaking of which, Mercedes, what what what's the new line 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:37.279 this year? 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:38.640 What are you guys doing? Last year we talked a 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.400 lot about evs. 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.840 Yeah, so EV's have sort of run their course. They're wonderful. 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.640 They're just slowed down a little bit. But now we're 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.040 we're all about SUVs. So the Mercedes SUVs are the 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.520 top of the They are unbelievable. It starts with the 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.480 g Wagon, then goes to the my Box and the 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.960 g ls's and the Glees. So this year we're planning 0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.640 about seventy percent of our sales will be the unbelievable 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:01.640 sport utility vehicles. 0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:02.960 Yeah, they're all all will drive. 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:07.320 They're roomy, they're fast, they look great, safety security, they're wonderful. 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.560 Do you think it's amazing me. 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.080 It's like we you know, trucks and SUVs are it's 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.600 a huge sector, right is it? Because the roads are 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.040 so damn bad. I mean, look at the ice and 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:17.560 snow and the potholes we're gonna have in the spring. 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.480 And it's it's because people are like, you know what, 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.640 I smack as fun, but I gotta be up the road. 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:23.040 Stink. 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.560 It doesn't hurt you. The roads are they're definitely challenging. 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:27.920 Let's lot at that way and then the. 0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:29.200 Weather the way it is, you know you're not gonna 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:30.920 get around. Let's face it, the two wheel you know, 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.120 m we the SUVs. What we see is people they 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.720 need some space. You know, we're Americans. We need space. 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:38.840 We need to carry stuff. 0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.239 We have children in the back friends, So you know, 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.279 we're not like other countries where transportations just to get 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.319 around with us, it's a it's a lifestyle. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:47.440 It's enjoyable. 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.799 So we sell large SUVs actually small, medium and large 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.400 SUV's and again with the roads being as challenging as. 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:55.759 They are, you want to be up a little higher. 0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:56.640 You got bigger tires. 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.200 You can handle the potholes and handle the one. 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.640 That's exactly what is Amy, would it take to get 0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:02.000 you in a G class? By the way, would you 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:03.920 were you an equal an E C or G. 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.400 Well, I'm in the nonprofit space, so I might have 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:06.840 to take. 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:11.040 It to you also have a good supply of after weeks, 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.440 have some gently used cars, and we've got all the 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.000 We got all the normal stuff too. 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.080 But you know my model is treat yourself. I mean 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:18.880 that's exactly we always say, treat yourself. 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:20.560 Amy. Could you give me your Social Security so you're 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.160 going to run a credit check? Can we do? Can 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.080 we run that right now? Yeah? See what's going on? 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:25.919 That was good? 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.360 Uh institute this morning on seven hundred w W to 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.680 Don PEPPERRELLI sell them cars from Mercedes spends a fort Mitchell. 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.320 He has teamed up yet again for thirty Fifthaniel Marti Gras. 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.360 We've got Amy floyd In, the executive director of the 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.239 Joe Burrow Foundation, and a guy named Gordy Snyder who 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:43.080 just shows up when the food's and drink and all this. 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.799 By the way, tickets available at Martigra twenty twenty six 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.400 dot org. You can also stop by if you know 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.160 where Brighton Center or Welcome House or Bethany Houses in 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.520 Cincinnati stop by that selling their tickets as well too. 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:55.680 How are we doing on ticket sales? 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.840 We're doing good, but we still got a few left, okay, 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.160 And we also got some corporate sponsorships left. I'll have 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.480 to see some companies you know in our area step 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.360 up and do a sponsorship, just like you know Mercedes 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:07.719 Benz a Fort mitchell As. 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.560 Yeah, and the Joe Burrow phund There's different levels of 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:11.520 doing this too. And here here's the imperative, right is 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:14.439 if you have these kids, they're hungry. The economy could 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.960 be better, right, People, especially working folks, are feeling the 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.160 pinch of this too. So we're getting more families in 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:21.600 the system than ever before. And all you're doing is 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.120 buying a ticket to go and have a good time, 0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.399 eat and drink and maybe make some new friends, bring 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.279 some old friends. Great Valentine's Day gift, by the way, 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:29.839 if you're looking for something instead of the tired old 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.640 flowers and tired box of chocolates or whatever that might be. 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.280 You know, do this instead. It's you know, the tickets 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:37.040 go what how much? 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.400 Well, they start at one hundred dollars for a regular emission. 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:41.920 That would get you in at six thirty. But if 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.880 you want to get in at five thirty, the VIP 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.640 emission is one hundred and twenty five. Yeah, and then 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.040 we have sponsorships for tables all the way from fifteen 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:51.120 hundred up to ten thousand. 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:52.960 Okay, So if you have a small business or something 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:54.359 you want to like, hey, this seems like a good thing, 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.720 and you know you're doing some charitable work, please consider 0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.080 this in getting a table on a sponsorship because everything 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.200 diamond and I mean all the money the restaurants donate, 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:05.200 all this stuff, the the alcohol, beverages, and all the 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.640 everything there is all donated, and all of that money 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.239 then from ticket sales goes one hundred percent of these charities. 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.000 And you know you're you're helping feed kids. I mean, 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.359 is there a more noble thing? I mean, think about it. 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.920 We just got off the holidays where most of us 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:19.960 are going, okay, let's go time to get in THEI 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.440 kido and then we throw that out of the that 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.000 goes out the window on the seventeenth. But in between 0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:26.879 there and thinking, wow, we've got the surplus of food 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:28.880 for most people, and yet there's people right here in 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.000 our community, special little kids that that don't have that 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.600 food security that we do and in these families, and 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.279 it's getting worse because the gap between those that have 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.799 and have it is getting bigger. And that's just an 0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.640 irrefutable truth. So I think it's it's incumbent on a 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.279 lot of us and most of us anyway, to say, hey, 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.160 this is this is something we can all get behind. 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.280 So hopefully if the very lead, just get a ticket, 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.319 you know, tell your friends, maybe get a hotel room cross, 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.520 you know, making a midweek little vacre. God knows you 0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:59.759 need to break. God knows you need to break. Yeah weather, yeah, right, for. 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.320 The for the kids. 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:01.480 Right. 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.320 You feel good about yourself. You're doing something nice. 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.760 And I do always feel guilty because I'm getting pelted 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.680 with bread in the like up there, and when I'm 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.960 on the float, is king, Oh God, here we. 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:15.120 Go, Wow, and we use fresh I know, closs them. 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:16.600 Twenty four seven. 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:18.920 You bring these roles that have been laying out in 0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:23.520 the apparently they're frozenre they on your dash for every 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.600 year they get either I'm getting older or these these 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.879 roles get harder every year. So the tradition started years 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.960 ago with Mike McConnell who sat in this chair, and 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.600 for some reason he bought his degenerate friends and you 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.399 get up on this big float. So I'm up there, 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.759 Sheila Gray's up there, and we have the parade with 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:41.800 the marching band right from Edgewood and they do a 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:42.279 great job. 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:44.759 Beachwood. I'm saying, are we going through? 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.360 And for some reason when we get into the Clossman 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:51.760 bread station, we get pelted with so his boys started 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:53.680 throwing rolls at I mean, this tradition is continued for 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:54.680 probably twenty years. 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:56.960 Mike will probably be there again this year. 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:57.560 Yeah. Yeah. 0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.239 And so when I when I die, and they're like, 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.600 what causes death? I'm sort of yeast infection, probably from 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:06.240 the rolls. I don't know what's going on here again. 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.600 So Marty Grot twenty twenty six dot org is where 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.440 you can get the tickets. Please consider it if you're 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:14.040 thinking about a Valentine's say gift, there's there's none better 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.120 because it's an experience, right, Since it's buying flowers are 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.840 going to die in twenty four hours. It's going to 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.920 be party with a purpose. So Don and Amy and Don, 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:24.520 thanks for coming in this morning. I appreciate it. It's 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:25.640 great to see you. Thank you, guys. 0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:27.600 We'll see on the seventeenth. Seventeenth. 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.600 Y all right, wait, Don's got a car sale with 0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.600 Amy here, so I'll let them go and handle that up. 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:37.799 It's time for you also, Let's time to time. We'll 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:41.960 get this. We'll get this done. That's what we need 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.640 with the official car of the Scott's Sloan Show. Jack, 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.320 Let's get this done, official card of Scott's. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.319 All right, we're doing business and we're saving lives here 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.560 Scott's Loan Show seven hundred ww. 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:57.799 Helping you put the big P in profession. Here's our career, Sir, 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:03.919 Julie bout. We also put the big P in peanut butter. 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.960 That's not what Julie BALKI thought I was going to say, Uh, Julie, welcome, 0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:09.799 how are you well? 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.319 I didn't think you were going to say anything else. 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.720 I know you want to keep your job? So do I. 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:24.000 Do I really want to keep do I? Anyway? 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:24.399 Yeah? 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:28.120 No, you know no, of course I do. So the 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:31.200 topic is a peanut butter raise. I've never heard that 0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.560 term before. Is a new Where's it come from? What 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.840 the hell does that mean? What's a peanut butter raise? 0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.480 I know it's just another example of why we have 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:46.880 to make up new things for for clicks. 0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.560 Yeah, okay, peanut butter because it sticks to the roof 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:50.839 of your unemployment. 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:52.200 I don't know what what does it mean? 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:57.440 It means everybody in the same organization gets the same increase. 0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:02.360 So an organization, uh organization might come out and say, 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:06.600 you know, in light of everyone is going to get 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.120 an across the board, So think about peanut butter spreading 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:12.000 on bread. It's about an across the board raised. So 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:13.040 everybody gets. 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.440 Our definition in here at iHeart is it means you 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.279 to be fired in a jiff. If you don't knock 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:20.719 it up. 0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:25.440 Skippy, you can probably do well. Ski skip. 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:30.160 We're gonna we're going to skip your next paychecks, all right, 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.319 So peanut peanut butter race, Yeah, we take it down 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:35.600 the skips. Peanut butter rays is okay. It's spread across 0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:39.160 the boards from from coast to courst from from cross 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:39.799 to cross. 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:43.200 Okay to the organization So here's the here's the thing 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:47.120 that is I think just really really short sighted, is 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:52.440 you are not rewarding your higher performers, and you are 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:55.719 telling the organization that it doesn't matter how hard you 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.120 try or what you accomplish, you will be getting the 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.919 same amount. You doing three people's jobs, two of which 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.280 were laid off last year, will get the same amount. 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.040 I'm ann increase. It's not a merit increase. It's just 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:12.080 an increase as the person down the hall who everybody 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:15.040 knows is the owner's nephew and sits in plays on 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.879 the phone all day or so. That's that's where there's 0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.120 like an across the board raised. And then there's things 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:27.200 like merit increases, performance increases, performance bonuses. So some of 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:30.680 these organizations might be saying, Okay, we're going to reward 0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:34.839 our higher performers in other ways, but for sure there 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.640 are some out there going we don't want to mess 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.799 with it. We're just going to give everybody two to 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.280 three percent across the board and go on our merry 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:46.040 way and boil boy. That is that is a motivation killer. 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.440 Even if you're not somebody who's wildly motivated by money, 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:54.160 it still sends the signal that we don't know. Just 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.880 just do the do the just show up, and everybody's 0:53:57.920 --> 0:53:59.600 going to get the same amount across the board, which 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:03.319 I think is dangerous, especially when the pendulum swings back 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.520 the other way. Gotcha two more of to a place 0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.239 where your best people can leave and they will remember this. 0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:11.560 You got to be really, really careful when you do 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:12.440 across the board things. 0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:14.440 All right, there's always people that are like, well, you 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:17.800 know you're complaining about You're complaining about this not eating 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:19.080 and even though you've got a half a loaf of 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:20.600 bread out of your arm, I don't have a low 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.480 foot all What about people who are getting any raise 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.680 whatsoever and now but for the foreseeable future, there there's 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:27.279 people like that. 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:28.960 What about them? 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:32.040 And what about the people who are unemployed and have 0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:35.239 no salary to get a raise on top of? So yeah, 0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:38.560 I mean there's always a situation. I think it's it's 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:41.799 like the analogy that I feel sorry for myself, and 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.279 I believe this is analogy I just made up. I 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.239 feel sorry for myself because I lost my arm. Well, 0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:48.200 you're not allowed to feel sorry for yourself because you 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:50.439 have another arm. Think about the people with no arms. 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.799 Oh okay, what about the people with no legs? What 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.640 about you? Know, so I think it's unfair to say 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.200 just be happy. It's really let the meat take, you know, 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.040 just be happy because what you have, because of course 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.480 you appreciate the two or three percent. Of course, I mean, 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:09.759 nobody's going to say take it back, but if you 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.279 have to. We are humans, not not machines. And so 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.759 you have to look at if I've been busting my 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:18.200 butt for the past year because I'm a good performer, 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:21.680 and your strong performers always get piled on. It's just 0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.399 a fact of life because the organization knows they'll get 0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.040 it done. And so if you've been taken one or 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:29.640 two or three for the team this whole time, and 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.520 you and now all of a sudden, it's like, you know, 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:35.320 thank you start, Can I have another? You're not getting 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:38.719 any sort of an increase for that at all. I think, 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.160 then you've got and then you've got a real problem. 0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.640 You've got a real moral and engagement problem. And those 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.560 people who are working hard, Mike might say, you know, 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:48.720 why exactly am I doing this? I'm going to spend 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.399 maybe some of this time I've been spending on doing 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.319 the person doing the job of Fred who just got 0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.319 laid off. I'm going to take that that time, and 0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:57.839 I'm going to spend it trying to start a side 0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:01.759 hustle or you know, pick not a hobby or and 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.200 you know what I mean, just can't really blame them. 0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:05.840 So I think you've gotta be really, really careful. And 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:07.560 I get that it's tricky times. I get it. 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.000 Well, minimum wage mindmum effort, now, I get it. Yeah, 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:11.640 because people are like, well, man, at least you're getting 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.400 two percent. I don't get I got one. I got 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.839 nothing last year or the year before. And okay, well, 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:18.000 and I get it because you know, it's relative to 0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:21.080 your income and your situation and if if your in 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:22.680 had not to be your uncle, I get it. I 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:26.200 get Julie boucare career ship. What do you say Julie's 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.360 boucare careership on the Scotsland Show on seven hundred W welw. 0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.919 So the pant butter raises across the board. Prairiise isn't 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:34.960 a like but that's the way. I mean. 0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:36.360 It's been that way a lot of companies for a 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:37.760 long time. Is it ever going to change? 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.880 It has? And you know what, what a companion A 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:46.759 piece of information that is that over the last I 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.600 mean years, thirty maybe thirty fifty years. It's in a while, 0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:54.680 CEO compensation has shot up one thousand percent while worker 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:56.879 pay has gone up twenty six percent. So the rate 0:56:56.960 --> 0:57:01.440 the gaps between the CEO and the lowest worker because 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.880 of what a lot of times what a company is 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.600 the here everybody, here's your two and a half percent. 0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:11.239 Is the CEO getting a huge performance bonus? Maybe it's 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.959 in stock opjects, maybe it's cash, maybe it's a huge raise, 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:21.800 And it's really really hard to take that seriously and 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.800 believe the organization and trust the organizations. This is the 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.120 best we can do this year given the market, customers 0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:31.680 blah blah blah. When you've got your CEO, who's they're 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:32.520 talking as. 0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:32.800 You look it up? 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.760 Because public companies are information is online. He or she 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.760 got a massive salary increase or performance bonus even in 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.760 years when even in years when business wasn't good because 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:48.000 a lot of these bonuses are written into their contracts, 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:49.880 and you know, so there's a lot of a lot 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.000 of you can't blame them forgetting what they can get, 0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.880 but you've got to understand how it looks, what the 0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:59.600 optics are when you talk about the rest of the 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.960 folks trying to have swollow the fact that you're not 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:04.520 getting any rays this year. 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:06.280 Yeah, I mean, good for you. It's like, you know, well, 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:07.840 you know, it's a different thing. You see you and 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:09.560 there's so few of them and it's you. You don't 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.000 understand them, and a lot of it's bonus, and it's like, yeah, 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:13.240 all well and good. I mean, you can tell me 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.200 that I don't really care about your situation. I care 0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.120 about mine, and if it's not improving, we got to 0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.200 do different things on that regard to And I think 0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:23.000 this also has to do with I mean, in the past, 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:29.280 it's a bet about gender discrimination, racial discrimination, age discrimination. Uh, 0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.920 there's a factor here, Julie bias versus mediocrity. So the 0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:34.720 reason why a company would do this in across the 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:38.440 board race for everybody is subjectivity and bias. Those are 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:42.000 concerns because the peanut butter approach, I guess creates its 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.600 own form of equity because it treats exceptional and mediocre 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:47.160 performers the same way. It's kind of a union model, 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.640 you know, not all unions, but it's always been Hey, 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.720 you know, you could be the guy slacking not shown up. 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.240 You get the same amount of money as somebody who 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.880 really cares about making a better product or doing their job. 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:59.000 The same thing applies here, I think too, because you 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.920 could also have well handing raises out to people. Oh 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.280 this person kisses my ass a lot, she hears she 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.000 gets a raise. Man, Well, I don't really do anything, 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:08.080 and the guy's working hard who's just keeps his head 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:11.320 down and doesn't, you know, interact as much, gets nothing. 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:13.720 So the other side of this is just as bad, 0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:14.040 isn't it. 0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:15.680 Yeah? 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.000 But but what that what that is, what all of 0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:22.040 this is a symptom of is a poorly designed and 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:28.280 poorly and or poorly executed compensation plan that the company 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.120 really doesn't have any belief in. And so if you've 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.320 got let's say you said, okay, we're going to do 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.760 two percent across the board, we're going to take that 0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:38.640 one percent extra one percent, and we're going to put 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:42.040 it in a pot, and we're going to give it 0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:45.880 out as bonuses to people who are from a performance system. 0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:47.640 Won't say it's a scale one to five or something 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:48.280 simple like that. 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:49.240 For fours and. 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.720 Five, Okay, you still got your two percent. Everybody gets 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:56.280 their two percent, but at least you're acknowledging that the 0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.040 people who are your strong performers, and you can even 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.720 when you actually talk to people and say, look, you 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:03.640 know that this is a tough year. I'm doing the 1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:06.120 best I can. I really appreciate you. You know, everybody 1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:08.480 got a two percent across the board. I'm also going 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:10.640 to give We're also giving our top performers of what 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:15.000 you're one, an extra five thousand dollars, two thousand dollars, 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:19.400 five hundred dollars. It's at least an acknowledgment. And this 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:23.680 is the thing that leaders get so wrong because they're 1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:27.000 embarrassed and they don't want to say, oh yeah, sorry, 1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:30.200 you're not getting that extra increase that I think I 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.080 told you you might get. So let's not make eye 1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:35.320 contacted the whole way. You're actually treating people like adults, 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:38.360 which is all that people really want. And will they 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:41.439 always be happy, of course not. But it comes down 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.600 to the way you're handling it and the fact you're 1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:46.080 addressing it and handling it all. That's what leadership is. 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:48.560 Anything other than that is just being a coward. 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:51.120 What what's the data show about the retention rates though 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:53.760 for top performers and companies that use peanut butter raises 1:00:53.880 --> 1:00:54.720 versus merit base. 1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:58.040 Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen that. I've not seen. 1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:01.040 Isn't that your job, isn't it? 1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:06.320 I don't know. As long as there's too many, there's 1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:06.760 too many. 1:01:07.240 --> 1:01:09.439 Here's somebody just begging not to get a raise. 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:09.520 This. 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:12.680 You're Julie Bouki. When you're heading that, you're the CEO. 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:14.800 You get all the money, all the glory, all the 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:17.280 stock options, and yet you don't contribute anything. 1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:19.200 Let's turn this mayor around a second. 1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:22.720 Let's talk about my raises. Now, let's talk about my 1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:26.880 pay that I never get from iHeart for all of 1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:29.080 the great value I bring to your little show. 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:36.080 Well, well that makes two of us. Yeah, but I 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:40.360 think that's a fair question. Though in all seriousness, is it? Yeah, 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:43.200 it doesn't help retention rates. I would imagine it does. 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.160 Well, So we are in and let's let's be fair here. 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:50.960 We are in a very very very challenging time. And 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:54.120 that's the other side of this, really, is that you 1:01:54.200 --> 1:01:59.640 are in a situation where employers are they are trying 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.080 to do in a lot of cases. You know, they're 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:05.120 they're everybody everybody. So so the person who makes the 1:02:05.160 --> 1:02:07.920 decision about you getting the two just represent raised the 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.760 person who gives you that news, they're in the same 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:12.720 boat you are because they also have on it. They 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:16.400 also have an employee hat that they wear. And so 1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:19.560 it's tough time. Number one, number two we are This 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:21.760 has been true and will be true forever. This is 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:25.120 all econ one oh one, and that is when the 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:29.200 job market is tough, and it's very tough, people will 1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:33.640 they will take what you give them. They will know 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:36.640 they will hang on to their job because they've heard 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:40.480 and seen the horror stories of people applying for jobs 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:42.600 and being unemployed for long periods of time. And so 1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:47.320 when that is true of the markets, then you also 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:52.040 have the fact that they will hang on, grit their teeth, 1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:56.040 be grateful for a job. But that is not a 1:02:56.080 --> 1:02:59.240 permanent condition because when the pendulum goes the other way, 1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:03.959 and it will because it always does, then your good 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:07.960 people will remember this. They will remember how you treated them, 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.080 and they will be the first ones out the door. 1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:14.800 Why because they can because they have options. Everybody knows 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:18.200 it's a transparent world. Now, if you're at a competitor 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:21.280 of yours, you probably know who the top people are. 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:23.560 You could easily find out. So it's not like I've 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:25.280 got to go knock on your company's door to steal 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:28.640 your people anymore. And so it's a short term strategy. 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:33.120 But if you don't, it's when things start turning around. 1:03:33.640 --> 1:03:36.560 You don't go back in and right your wrongs because 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:40.640 you can, and you hope people forget what you forget 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:43.440 all this. They're not going to They're either going to 1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:45.440 give you less on the job and the orders, they're 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:47.720 going to cut back their work, or they're going to quit. 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:50.560 It's just human nature. And we can argue all day 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:53.440 whether it's there shouldn't be like that, but it just is. 1:03:53.520 --> 1:03:55.440 As long as I've been in this business, which is 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:58.040 about one hundred decades at this point, it is always 1:03:58.040 --> 1:03:58.640 been true. 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.000 Yeah, there's a question about all I would say this. 1:04:01.040 --> 1:04:03.320 You know, for the peanut butter we're talking about what's 1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:05.960 called a peanut butter raise, and if you're not familiar 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:08.680 with that term, it's nothing new. It's basically everyone gets 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:11.000 two percent, three percent, whatever it is across the board, 1:04:11.040 --> 1:04:13.600 regardless of a hard how good you are, howrd you work, 1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:15.800 and if you're a top performer, not everyone gets the 1:04:15.840 --> 1:04:18.880 same raise, which of course disincentivizes the top performers. 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:19.640 If that's the case. 1:04:20.200 --> 1:04:23.120 The other fact is if it's a three percent raise, well, okay, 1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:26.160 that just barely keeps pace with inflation. That's another factor 1:04:26.160 --> 1:04:28.439 here too. I mean, raises are just cost of living. 1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:30.160 It's not like you're good, you're getting more money, but 1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:32.840 everything costs more express so you're just basically keeping up. 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:35.680 You're not getting more if you're a top performer. That's 1:04:35.680 --> 1:04:36.560 got to be really concerning. 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:42.000 Yeah, absolutely, and it is. It is okay to have 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:46.200 a different pay structure, a different payout plan, a different 1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:51.240 plan for your top performers. It's also okay to set 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:55.080 expectations with your people about what strong performance looks like 1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:59.760 very clearly, and then measure them to that, hold them 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:02.840 to that, and bonus slash, give them a marriacrease. That 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:06.000 is okay. I don't know why we're so afraid of 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:09.600 having a system of creating a system that works inside 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:11.680 of an organization so that at the end of the year, 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:15.520 if you're getting you know, if you're if you have 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:19.440 a really good review coming with a nice increase, you 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:22.120 should already know that in advance. Yeah, the other way. 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:24.160 Around, right, Well, why. 1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:26.120 Are we being so secretive? And what it looks like 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:26.640 to succeed? 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:27.640 What does this look like? 1:05:27.760 --> 1:05:31.200 Not for you know, baby boomers like yourself, gen xers 1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:34.479 like me, millennials like Sarah Lease, what does that look 1:05:34.520 --> 1:05:36.400 like for Gen Z workers for example too? 1:05:36.480 --> 1:05:40.680 I mean the new wave? Uh oh is that your 1:05:40.720 --> 1:05:41.320 heart monitor? 1:05:41.480 --> 1:05:41.880 What is that. 1:05:43.640 --> 1:05:45.680 About that? What's it look like for them? 1:05:45.880 --> 1:05:48.240 By the way, I love you on Q I said, 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:50.919 like you baby boomers and your phone goes off super loud, 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:53.040 like you're in church and it takes you ten minutes 1:05:53.040 --> 1:05:53.360 to get it. 1:05:53.320 --> 1:05:54.440 Because it's in your purse. 1:05:58.440 --> 1:06:02.520 On my phone with you. So what they So they 1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:06.160 are When you think about how people look at work 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:09.440 and how it fits into your life, we it comes 1:06:09.480 --> 1:06:13.800 from your years of working and living. And for those 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:16.400 of us who are Gen X and boomers, we after 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:19.920 a while you've seen something. We have seen all these 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:23.480 changes that about how work fits into our lives when 1:06:23.520 --> 1:06:26.680 the employer employee relationship is or not. And so our 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:29.840 perspective is we are seeing it swing very much the 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:31.640 other way. And so for people who are older in 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:35.480 the workforce, this is absolutely hand ringing, pro clutching, what 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:38.040 the heck are we doing? But when you've got the 1:06:38.120 --> 1:06:44.240 younger generations, their entire experience, they can't live through what 1:06:44.280 --> 1:06:44.959 we live through. 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:45.960 So their entire. 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:49.640 Experience is what the how? That what they've seen personally, 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:52.480 and then sometimes you know how your parents what what 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:54.480 how you've seen what you've seen in other people in 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:57.160 terms of the employer employee relationship. So that's why I 1:06:57.160 --> 1:07:02.640 think we're seeing this. The younger generations are saying, I'm 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:07.200 not sure this is a good deal, and so we 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:12.640 really they just they look at corporate life and say, 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:18.120 what exactly is a feeling about this? And they're not wrong. 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:21.200 But the thing is, the older people we never we 1:07:21.200 --> 1:07:23.959 were kind of like about it too, but we didn't 1:07:23.960 --> 1:07:25.880 have any options and so we didn't know any better, 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:28.160 and so we just sucked it up. But it is 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:31.760 not uncommon for a younger person to go into a 1:07:31.880 --> 1:07:34.400 job for a couple of years and say, oh my gosh, 1:07:34.600 --> 1:07:36.880 wait a minute, is this what my next forty plus 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:39.360 years look like? Ye, and say no thanks, and then 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:41.000 they start to look for something else. So I think, 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:44.600 really corporations are kind of in trouble when it comes 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:46.760 to being able to attract and keep people from the 1:07:46.760 --> 1:07:47.480 younger generation. 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:50.040 Julie, let me put this in the context, right, I 1:07:50.440 --> 1:07:52.440 tell me if I'm wrong, and I think it just fits. 1:07:52.520 --> 1:07:56.480 It's everything is predictable when it comes to generations or 1:07:56.480 --> 1:07:58.120 at the generation gap. So I mentioned, you know, the 1:07:58.160 --> 1:08:01.440 generations that are just right now. I think this is 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:03.720 what happened. So as a Gen X or as a 1:08:03.760 --> 1:08:08.080 baby boomer, you and baby your parents, maybe your grandparents 1:08:08.160 --> 1:08:11.960 worked physical hard jobs. My grandfather, Johnny Trucks, drove a 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:14.800 truck for A and P supermarkets for thirty forty years 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:18.280 back before they had like manual steer of power steering. 1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:21.120 I mean, you know, huge forums because he's taking a 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:23.080 big truck and driving it and there's no you know, 1:08:23.200 --> 1:08:26.559 no air conditioning, nothing like that. We had people in 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:28.720 my family that are labors, right, They're out there, they're 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:31.120 building stuff, they're making things. It's really really hard work. 1:08:31.160 --> 1:08:33.280 It's hard work today, but not like it was back 1:08:33.280 --> 1:08:35.599 in the day. Because you have more automation, you have robots, 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:39.760 you have safety government mandated by the government, you have know, 1:08:39.800 --> 1:08:42.200 mandated breaks, you have all these things in there. And 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:45.479 also you know, the mechanic mechanicals got better to the 1:08:45.520 --> 1:08:47.679 idea that somehow you're on a you don't see anybody 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:51.720 building a skyscraper or walking up on a girder or 1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:53.880 without any safety gear on. Right, like you saw when 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:56.040 they're building the Empire State Building. You know how many 1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:59.280 people died when they're making the subway system or building dams, 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:01.679 Hoover Dam, things like that. You don't see that anymore 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:05.439 because safety is paramount. But the technology is so much better. 1:09:05.520 --> 1:09:08.320 So back when we were younger, when I was younger, 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:12.880 we saw our parents and saw their parents do that. 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:13.320 Kind of work. 1:09:13.320 --> 1:09:14.479 Now we don't want you to. We want to go 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:16.720 to college because that way you're not there breaking your back. 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:18.920 You're not broken down. By the time you're fifty years old. 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:22.479 You know, you do something with your mind and not 1:09:22.560 --> 1:09:25.840 with your hands. Work smarter, not harder. And so we 1:09:25.960 --> 1:09:27.840 have a general a couple of generations now that have 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:29.760 done that and said, okay, and now that's kind of 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:31.559 played out, going to wait a minute, I put all 1:09:31.600 --> 1:09:34.160 this effort, I pull this time in. I'm getting a 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:37.719 three percent raise or no raise. It's a corporate structure. 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:39.479 I got to be there. My boss is a jerk. 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:41.240 I don't really produce it. I'm not sure what I do. 1:09:41.320 --> 1:09:43.640 I'm stuck inside. I don't like this at all. And 1:09:43.680 --> 1:09:45.720 now I think this generation comes along says well what 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:49.000 about the trades? Because they didn't see what our parents saw, 1:09:49.560 --> 1:09:53.640 And so once again, in thirty years, it'll probably go 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:55.080 the other way, going, well, we got all that my 1:09:55.439 --> 1:09:58.040 parents were, you know, my dad was working in hvac 1:09:58.240 --> 1:10:00.120 for example, or like you know, he's a plumber and 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:02.479 his knees are all banged up. At fifty, I want 1:10:02.479 --> 1:10:04.519 to go to college. I would imagine in a couple 1:10:04.640 --> 1:10:07.280 generations it goes back the way it was in America. 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:09.840 The pendulum always swings. That's why history repeats itself. Am 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:10.680 I right or wrong about that? 1:10:11.040 --> 1:10:14.400 Yeah? Exactly exactly. But what's so interesting is where we 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:17.800 are now back and it wasn't that long ago. It's 1:10:17.800 --> 1:10:20.759 probably frand from nine to eleven. I remember this very clearly. 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:25.040 When the conversation changed. It used to be you had 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.800 to pick a lane, so I am going to be 1:10:28.520 --> 1:10:32.200 corporates corporate, or I'm going to have something on my own. 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:35.960 And it was very much because I remember the coaching 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:37.800 back then was pretty much okay, at some point you 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:40.439 have to pick a lane. And the beauty is. After 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:43.280 nine eleven, the job market was a mess, and it 1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:46.160 really came back as now you don't because plenty of 1:10:46.200 --> 1:10:48.920 clients that I had them because they couldn't find a job, 1:10:49.400 --> 1:10:52.519 started something on their own for a few years and 1:10:52.560 --> 1:10:56.080 then went back to corporate. And so it was at 1:10:56.120 --> 1:11:01.479 that moment that the first vestiges of wait a minute, 1:11:01.720 --> 1:11:03.800 I can do different things at different times. I can 1:11:03.840 --> 1:11:07.120 swing back and forth and not look like I can't 1:11:07.120 --> 1:11:10.720 make up my mind. That's when we first start having 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:13.120 those conversations. It really was the very beginning of this 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:16.599 conversation that your career happens in chapters, just like your 1:11:16.640 --> 1:11:19.439 life does. Yeah, that makes sense, Okay, those chapters can 1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:20.880 contain different things, all. 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:23.160 Right, Julie Balki your career, Shirpa, now you know what 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:25.519 a peanut butter raises. She's at the Bauki Group. B 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:27.800 a UK jumps in every Wednesday with career stuff. You 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:30.400 have a great week. Thanks again for the inside really 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:34.040 interesting stuff. Appreciate it. Let me get a news update 1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:36.439 in in just seconds here. Scott's Loan Show continues on 1:11:36.439 --> 1:11:41.280 seven hundred w sis BEI mari I s love me 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:44.040 here seven hundred WLW so about a year and a 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:48.240 half delay in this whole thing. Ohio cities have finally 1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:52.040 received their first recreational marijuana tax revenue checks, and that 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:54.240 told us about thirty six million dollars state wide. 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:57.960 There again, there's stories here. Well you hear some of 1:11:58.000 --> 1:11:58.840 the stories. 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:01.479 Of incompetent and it's at the highest levels of the state. 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:04.479 It's gonna make your eyes water. I'll cut to the 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:06.400 chase and let you know how much Columbus gets the 1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:08.560 most in the state. About four point seven million, Cincinnati 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:11.000 two and a half million. Columbia Township is up on 1:12:11.040 --> 1:12:12.200 the top of the list, or near the top of 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:14.519 the list anyway, one point six million, nor would get 1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:17.960 six hundred seventy thousand dollars. Union Township in Claremont County 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:20.920 about seven fifty three, Milford six sixty one, and Hamilon 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:23.479 County Whitewater Township six hundred thousand. Those are the big 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:26.599 ones in our area on this and the story behind 1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:29.280 maybe explaining why it took eighteen months to figure this 1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:33.360 out is Ohio Senator Steve Huffman from Tips City. Good morning, Senator, 1:12:33.360 --> 1:12:34.240 how are you morning? 1:12:34.720 --> 1:12:37.160 Oh you know, cold and snowy. 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:39.720 But I got it. We live in It's what it is. 1:12:39.800 --> 1:12:41.120 It's what it is. I understand that. 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:44.240 So the bottom line here is they get cities who 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:46.080 are in on this get thirty six percent of the 1:12:46.160 --> 1:12:49.200 ten percent excise tax, and the remaining sixty four of 1:12:49.200 --> 1:12:51.720 that goes to the general fund to be used for 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:54.800 well whatever it might be, including social equity and mental 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:59.280 health and addiction services, cannibal cannabis control. Local governments have 1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:02.040 discretion to spend the money on that. I know Cleveland's 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:05.960 going to put money into public safety and roads. It's 1:13:06.000 --> 1:13:07.800 up to those local media spells to do with what 1:13:07.800 --> 1:13:11.280 they want. Are there guidelines? Are there? Are there certain 1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:12.880 things they can they can't do with that money? Or 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:14.360 how does that work? 1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:17.519 No, they can do whatever they want and whatever they 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:22.000 feel that their jurisdiction needs. And you know, I've not 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:26.400 heard anything from Cincinnati what their plan is, but they 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:27.200 can do what they want. 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:32.880 All right, So let's talk about how it took eighteen months. 1:13:32.960 --> 1:13:35.360 Let's start there, a year and a half of the 1:13:35.360 --> 1:13:38.240 promised tax revenue because there were quote unquote procedural issues. 1:13:38.280 --> 1:13:38.840 What does that mean? 1:13:40.000 --> 1:13:41.599 Well, so the way that. 1:13:41.640 --> 1:13:45.280 The referendum was actually written. It said basically it said 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:48.320 collect the money, but there was not an avenue that 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:53.240 said pay the money out. And so the legal scholars 1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:55.320 looked at him, said, well, we can't do that because 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:58.080 it doesn't tell us to spend the money. And so 1:13:58.320 --> 1:14:01.400 that's what fifty six did, was was solved that issue. 1:14:01.760 --> 1:14:05.240 And when we passed passed that, it became we're usually late, 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:09.160 wait ninety days, but eggs have involved money are instant, 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:12.120 and it took them a couple of weeks to get 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:12.719 that done. 1:14:12.920 --> 1:14:15.320 Okay, got that to it, But that wasn't the only problem. 1:14:15.360 --> 1:14:17.559 I guess there were some problems with the dispersement itself. 1:14:18.760 --> 1:14:21.720 Yeah, so they found out about a week or so 1:14:22.080 --> 1:14:25.519 ten days afterwards that you know, there's about fifty or 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:32.600 one hundred different jurisdictions and seventeen jurisdictions received money and 1:14:32.640 --> 1:14:34.240 they didn't have a dispensary at all. 1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:37.880 Wait, what you don't have any you're not supposed to 1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:41.200 get money, like for example, in Mason Roland Mason said 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:43.679 we don't want it. We don't want weed anywhere near people. 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:45.360 So you go and you get your weed and you 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:47.200 bring it back. They get no tax revenue because they 1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:52.120 weren't open to allowing dispensaries there. So you should get that, 1:14:52.120 --> 1:14:53.880 you should get that. So why would they get money 1:14:54.000 --> 1:14:55.479 if they didn't have dispensers. 1:14:56.720 --> 1:15:01.879 It was a mistake. You know, nothing goes right in government. 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:06.520 And what happened is is that you know, in Columbus, 1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:09.880 the city of Worthington is a suburb, and they got 1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:14.880 a check because the address to the dispensary is Worthington, 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:16.920 and they just assume it was Worthington, but it was 1:15:16.960 --> 1:15:19.719 actually in the city of Columbus at. 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:23.280 The Columbus And so there's wonder going, where's our money? 1:15:23.320 --> 1:15:24.840 And they're going, wait, we got to check that we 1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:28.920 didn't do anything. This is pretty good. And I'll go, well, 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:31.000 you know, there's some things we've got to iron and 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:31.639 work out. 1:15:31.640 --> 1:15:31.840 Word. 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:35.360 I don't know about that. You're talking about several hundred 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:38.040 thousand dollars here. This isn't like, I don't know, five 1:15:38.120 --> 1:15:41.559 ten dollars class action settlement or something like that. 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:42.439 Yeah. 1:15:42.520 --> 1:15:46.280 Yeah, there's a couple of interesting things in here. And 1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:51.240 I can't remember. There's a small city in the Edgewood 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:57.080 School District called seven Mile, seven hundred and twelve people 1:15:57.320 --> 1:16:01.200 in the last census. Okay, they just cashed a check 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:05.200 for over four hundred thousand dollars for seven hundred and 1:16:05.240 --> 1:16:06.320 twelve residents. 1:16:07.160 --> 1:16:07.960 That's incredible. 1:16:08.640 --> 1:16:13.840 That that is absolutely incredible. They early on had a 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:17.800 medical dispensary that somebody came in and said, you know, 1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:20.200 we want this, And they were always looking for the 1:16:20.240 --> 1:16:23.800 tax revenue because right away they moved in and they 1:16:24.000 --> 1:16:27.360 slapped the fifty thousand dollars tax and all marijuana dispensaries, 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:32.799 and the state government fixed that in the next budget. 1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:36.080 Look at the city of Toledo. I don't know what 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:40.559 the revised was, but one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:44.400 for a good sized city. Yeah, And to me, that 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:46.880 proves the theory that I've had and others have had. 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:52.439 Nobody buys weed in Toledo because four miles into Michigan, 1:16:52.479 --> 1:16:57.760 they're nineteen dispensaries in Monroe, Michigan that you can buy 1:16:57.800 --> 1:17:01.040 your marijuana for half or two thirds. 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:00.840 No question. 1:17:00.920 --> 1:17:02.920 I lived in Toledo for a number You went to 1:17:02.960 --> 1:17:05.759 bowling Grain just outside Toledo, worked until they lived in Toledo. 1:17:06.080 --> 1:17:09.240 Had I had both our kids there and moved here 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:12.000 when they were very, very young. But yeah, the last 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:14.920 time I was up there over the summer. You drive 1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:17.600 anywhere in Toledo, there's billboards all over for the dispensaries 1:17:17.600 --> 1:17:19.639 in Michigan. And you go over the state line, which 1:17:19.680 --> 1:17:22.320 is right there up just past Luna Pier if you 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:26.200 know where that is. And after that in Monroe, not Monroe, Ohio, 1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:29.599 but Mona, Michigan. You're just they're all over the place. 1:17:29.800 --> 1:17:31.720 It's cheap, it's available, you're in, you're out. It's not 1:17:31.760 --> 1:17:35.280 a problem whatsoever. Why would I pay that tax in 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.839 Toledo if I could get it much cheaper in Michigan, 1:17:38.880 --> 1:17:41.320 and I arguably a better selection because of that. 1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:47.880 Yes, it's cheaper and the taxes left, and so I would. 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:50.280 So maybe in a year year and a half, we 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:55.920 can have to have a discussion about Cincinnati. Yeah, Cincinnati's 1:17:55.960 --> 1:18:02.800 number falsely elevated because people Entucky are coming over to Cincinnati. 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:07.000 You know they Kentucky just started their program, you know, 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:10.439 a couple of weeks ago, so you know they do that. 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:13.240 We don't know, We'll have to look at those numbers 1:18:13.240 --> 1:18:15.719 in a year or two and say, you know that 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:18.800 that is what they are more likely benefiting from it. 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:21.320 It's a cost benefit for Cincinnati, and you go, Okay, 1:18:21.320 --> 1:18:23.640 how much cheaper would it be in Kentucky. We know 1:18:23.680 --> 1:18:26.600 it's cheaper for a liquor and cigarettes. People go to 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:28.880 Kentucky all the time, party sorts, et cetera for that 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:31.800 because it's cheaper. They'll save a few bucks. But if 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:35.559 it's marginally cheaper, they probably won't. This is substantially like Michigan, 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:38.920 different story entirely, and that explains it because Cincinnati were 1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:39.639 a border city. 1:18:39.720 --> 1:18:41.160 Toledo is a border city. 1:18:41.280 --> 1:18:43.519 You don't have that problem in Cleveland obviously, unless you 1:18:43.560 --> 1:18:45.439 can swim really well, and then this weather if you 1:18:45.439 --> 1:18:48.439 can skate really well. The outlier, though, The interesting part 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:50.840 about that then is Columbus. Why does if that's the case, 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:53.360 and why does Columbus lead in revenue with four point 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:55.559 seven million? Is simply because the border is too far. 1:18:55.439 --> 1:19:01.160 Away, I think, because it seems to me that you know, 1:19:01.200 --> 1:19:05.040 you look at Cincinnati and there's four or five townships 1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:09.479 in smaller jurisdictions that allowed dispensaries. So I think if 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:12.720 you looked at Hamilton County as a whole, and then 1:19:12.800 --> 1:19:16.120 look at Franklin County as a whole they're pretty they're 1:19:16.200 --> 1:19:19.840 they're pretty similar because I just didn't look like outer 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:25.920 jurisdictions of Franklin County allowed the dispensaries. But I think 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:28.720 they're kind of pretty equal in the same for Cuyahogay. 1:19:29.320 --> 1:19:33.320 Cleveland's is not that much, but the whole county is 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:35.000 is is a good number if you look at it 1:19:35.000 --> 1:19:35.280 that way. 1:19:35.600 --> 1:19:37.640 Well, I look at some of these discratch man like, 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:42.120 for example, Columbia Township here in Cincinnati is in the 1:19:42.160 --> 1:19:45.040 top I think in the top handful of cities. One 1:19:45.080 --> 1:19:47.599 point six million for Columbia Township. Look at that going. 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:48.879 I can't figure that one out. 1:19:49.960 --> 1:19:53.120 No, you know, and I and I think that now 1:19:53.160 --> 1:19:56.120 when this, when this was came out and became published, 1:19:56.720 --> 1:20:00.600 how many other jurisdictions have buyer's remorse in this in 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:04.080 the sense someplace like you know, you spoke about NASA 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:07.280 they you know, there's there's a couple hundred jurisdictions in 1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:09.040 the state that put it more to arm sause we 1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:12.519 just don't want we don't want marijuana. And I look 1:20:12.560 --> 1:20:16.040 at the in my in Miami County. In Pickla, you 1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:19.080 decided to have two dispensaries. They got a little heat 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:23.800 from some some some residents, but they reached for you know, 1:20:23.960 --> 1:20:26.720 a town of thirty thousand people got to check for 1:20:26.800 --> 1:20:29.360 over four hundred thousand. They're going to build, you know, 1:20:29.840 --> 1:20:32.920 they early on said we're going to build parks. We're 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:35.640 going to have a recreation at our entertainment center. And 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:37.840 that's what we're going to do with it. You don't 1:20:37.840 --> 1:20:40.519 how many calls to nine one one to those two 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:47.000 dispensaries in twenty twenty five many zero the drug dealer 1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:49.479 just you know, the theory was, you know, the drug 1:20:49.520 --> 1:20:51.760 dealer is going to sit in the parking lot reread 1:20:51.760 --> 1:20:53.880 you buy weed and they're going to sell you a 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:57.080 ventanyl and they're going to sell you. Yeah. I'm not 1:20:57.080 --> 1:20:58.160 saying it doesn't happen. 1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:01.160 It's happening, right, It happens anyway. 1:21:02.240 --> 1:21:03.800 Yeah. 1:21:03.840 --> 1:21:06.960 I think the problem has always been and the pearl 1:21:06.960 --> 1:21:08.840 clutters and the Luddites. I don't care what it is. 1:21:09.760 --> 1:21:12.120 It's always lagging. Indicate right, it's like the sky song, 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:14.120 so the where the worst things are gonna happen, and 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:17.599 ninety nine times out of one hundred, everything is fine. 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:19.320 It's not the arm again. We saw that when it 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:21.800 came to Casino gaming in Ohio years ago. Oh my god, 1:21:21.840 --> 1:21:24.160 you're gonna have prostitution and drugs and the cities are 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:26.439 gonna it's gonna be hell in a handbasket. And of 1:21:26.520 --> 1:21:28.920 course all the religious types fought that and what happened 1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:33.880 was no, nothing really happened. And the revenue they brought 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:35.760 in because people want to legally do that stuff has 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:37.840 been great. Are there problems with that? 1:21:37.960 --> 1:21:38.240 Sure? 1:21:38.280 --> 1:21:41.920 But the idea that somehow it's armageddon and you know 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:45.280 it's it's biblical in terms of the disaster, it's going 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:47.599 to be it's never comes to fruition ever does. But again, 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:50.599 the next thing comes down the pike, the same people, 1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:52.599 the Bible thumpers, will be out there screaming the same 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:55.800 nonsense and they're always proven wrong. And yet there's no 1:21:55.880 --> 1:21:57.640 shortage of people who want to believe that kind of 1:21:57.640 --> 1:22:01.320 stuff in that context, Senator, and do you see these 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:03.880 municipals look at them going, damn, you know, the sky 1:22:03.960 --> 1:22:06.559 isn't falling, the worst isn't happening. We could use a 1:22:06.560 --> 1:22:09.360 couple of million dollars, a couple hundred thousand dollars. Do 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:13.920 you see more municipalities than jumping into the to the 1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:14.880 dispensary game. 1:22:15.200 --> 1:22:17.599 Because of that, I think we do. 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:22.200 I mean, in Tenegralle fifty six, we're allowing up to 1:22:22.280 --> 1:22:25.640 four hundred dispensaries. We're probably at about one hundred and 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:28.320 eighty right now, so there's you know, two hundred more 1:22:28.360 --> 1:22:30.439 to go out there if that's what the market wants. 1:22:30.800 --> 1:22:33.120 And I mean, I think that those people have to 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:36.439 really take a serious look at that, and look, you 1:22:37.120 --> 1:22:39.240 can zone it the way you want it. I would 1:22:39.240 --> 1:22:45.439 not want a dispensary in historical downtown Tips City, Ohio, 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:48.400 which you can put it out in the industrial park 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:53.439 in this area where it might be hard to find, 1:22:53.880 --> 1:22:57.360 but it's not obvious in your historical area. So you 1:22:57.400 --> 1:22:59.160 can do what you want with zoning, and so it 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:02.120 doesn't it doesn't have to be any place in towns 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:04.840 where the city council wants it. 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:06.639 I don't know, i'd push back. Do you have bars 1:23:06.640 --> 1:23:08.960 in the historical district? Amen? 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:11.040 I agree, yeah, I mean I understand it. 1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:13.120 I guarantee you'd be the one with the longest line 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:15.280 outside a lot of these historical districts. And you know, 1:23:15.600 --> 1:23:18.120 it's lovely small town Ohio for sure, but you know, 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:20.080 when you see a lot of boarded up storefronts when 1:23:20.120 --> 1:23:23.280 you see you know, no businesses down there, a lack 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:25.200 of businesses, and they're always looking for people to come in. 1:23:25.240 --> 1:23:31.400 And you see more antique stores and you know historical societies, uh, 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:33.880 with with a block of you know, the way life 1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:36.400 used to be. That's not really bringing business in. That's 1:23:36.439 --> 1:23:38.240 not really bringing adding to your tax base. 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:39.160 No. 1:23:39.920 --> 1:23:42.240 I guess my point is is it's up to the 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.400 city council and they can decide if they decided to 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:47.280 put it down there so that you know, that would 1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:50.559 advocate more businesses, that would be fine. But you know, 1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:52.880 a lot of stuff we did in fifty six and 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:57.280 other things in marijuana to state level is allow local control. Uh. 1:23:57.400 --> 1:23:59.960 State Senator Steve Huffman. Let me pivot just to say 1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:04.200 because recently the well, another ballot initiative comes up because 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:06.680 a lot of people, and rightly so, feel that the 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:09.080 state of Ohio is not listening to voters. And we 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:11.320 could go on and on and on about that. But 1:24:11.600 --> 1:24:14.360 the citizen led ballot initiative to repeal the new marijuana 1:24:14.439 --> 1:24:17.080 law has hit a snagger. So it's it's it's Ohioan's 1:24:17.080 --> 1:24:19.439 for cannabis choice. They've been around for a while. They 1:24:19.439 --> 1:24:21.680 want to repeal your bill, Senate Bill fifty six. It 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:25.559 says it recriminalized use of cannabis. Dave Yosi AG has 1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:30.439 rejected their ballot petition summary because he was just reviewing 1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:32.479 it for truth, whether it's misleading or not. He said, 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:35.160 there's some statements that are incorrect in there, so they'll 1:24:35.160 --> 1:24:37.160 have to go back and revisit that to bring it 1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:37.559 back to them. 1:24:37.560 --> 1:24:38.000 What do you make of it? 1:24:39.400 --> 1:24:43.360 Well, you know, that's that's their prerogative. It's it's a 1:24:43.400 --> 1:24:47.960 referendum to repeal parts of fifty six, and mainly it's 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:53.200 about the beverages, but some smaller things on marijuana. So 1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:57.840 they revised it for a second time. It's back and 1:24:58.520 --> 1:25:03.800 ag Yost is office. He has till uh February third 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:08.720 or five o'clock to make his judgment is it Is 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:13.679 it truthful? And you know, we'll see what he has 1:25:13.720 --> 1:25:17.599 to say, and if he says it is, then they 1:25:17.640 --> 1:25:19.920 have about six weeks to get a quarter of a 1:25:19.960 --> 1:25:23.160 million valid signatures, which is a daunting task. 1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:26.760 Yeah, yeah, but again, I think about it, and I 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:30.959 think of the breweries in and around Cincinnati and elsewhere. 1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:34.040 The you know, Adam Bakovich was on the show, the 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:37.040 CEO of Ryan Geist, and I had the folks on 1:25:37.120 --> 1:25:39.000 from fifty West, and there's plenty of them that would 1:25:39.040 --> 1:25:40.960 lead that petition drive. You get enough bodies in there. 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:43.280 The people sit at the bar and sign all damn 1:25:43.360 --> 1:25:46.360 day long because they feel like, you know, they've invested 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:49.679 in this industry when it comes to THC and fused beverages, 1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:51.680 that they put millions into this thing and now the 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.360 carpet is being literally pulled out from under them. A 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:56.519 lot of people want it, a lot of people enjoy it. 1:25:57.040 --> 1:26:00.400 They see it as actually a better alternative to alcohol, 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:02.680 which is again, as we mentioned, is fine. You can 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:05.120 open a bar, but a dispensary is a different story. 1:26:05.360 --> 1:26:07.280 People use it for the first time or several times, 1:26:07.280 --> 1:26:09.000 they go, hey, wait a minute, I don't feel as 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:12.360 bad drinking a THCH infused drink as they do after 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:15.600 drinking alcohol. And as a physician tell me, what what, 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:16.439 what's the difference? 1:26:17.680 --> 1:26:21.880 Well, there's some subtle differences, but you know that's what 1:26:21.880 --> 1:26:23.800 what if that's what people want, you know, that's what 1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:27.559 the Senate and the House put on the governor's desk, 1:26:27.600 --> 1:26:31.599 and it was his it was his decision to uh detO. 1:26:31.960 --> 1:26:34.000 That part is the beverage part of the bill. But 1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:37.120 you know, you look at the referendum. They would only 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:40.719 get a reprieve for about six months because the federal 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:44.760 law is going to kick in, so it would stay 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:48.200 till the November election he had went up or down, 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:52.519 and then I can't remember. By December first the federal 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:55.559 law kicks in. It would all be illegal anyway. So 1:26:55.960 --> 1:26:58.360 it's hard to invest a lot of money in something 1:26:58.400 --> 1:27:01.240 you're only going to get six months. But you know, 1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:02.719 maybe they'll make that decision. 1:27:02.880 --> 1:27:03.599 Well, we're hoping. 1:27:03.640 --> 1:27:05.799 I think that the federal government comes to their senses 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:08.760 and changes as well, which is a distinct possibility because 1:27:08.760 --> 1:27:11.720 they look at the business element of this thing, and 1:27:11.720 --> 1:27:13.240 they look at how much money is to begin, and 1:27:13.439 --> 1:27:15.600 also public demand and hearing from constituents. 1:27:15.640 --> 1:27:16.920 I'm sure that'll weigh on them. 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:20.400 No, No, I agree, and I also agree with you. 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:23.160 I think that the federal government in some way is 1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:26.280 going to put some I hope they put some parameters 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:29.320 on it and then say let the states make the 1:27:29.360 --> 1:27:33.360 final details. You know, maybe Colorado said we can do it. 1:27:33.400 --> 1:27:36.160 You know, everything at a high level, and Utah is 1:27:36.200 --> 1:27:38.200 going to say, you know, we don't want that, but 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:41.400 we'll see what Ohio says. But I hope the federal 1:27:41.439 --> 1:27:45.040 government does come to their senses and does something by 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:45.760 that day. 1:27:46.000 --> 1:27:49.120 Seems to me, the initial push by those who wanted 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:51.680 recreational marijuana and Ohio, which I totally agree with, is 1:27:51.720 --> 1:27:55.040 just to simply treat this exactly like alcohol. You know, 1:27:55.120 --> 1:27:58.519 from a chemical pharmological perspective, it's a little bit different, 1:27:58.600 --> 1:28:00.479 but it's the same. You're drinking something that makes you 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:03.599 feel good, and if the THH and FUSE drinks make 1:28:03.640 --> 1:28:05.400 you feel better than the alcohol ones, you should add 1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:08.040 that choice. As a grown adult, we don't see the 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.759 long term dangers of drinking THC or using TG products 1:28:11.800 --> 1:28:15.320 is maybe different, but about the same as alcohol, because 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:19.160 both have their distinct disadvantages to them, but by and large, 1:28:19.560 --> 1:28:21.080 it's a product that's not going to kill you in 1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:23.840 short order unless you abuse it like anything else. Seems 1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:25.800 to me, the easiest thing to do is just treat 1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:28.280 THHC and FUSE beverages like alcohol and move on. 1:28:31.439 --> 1:28:33.479 I don't disagree with you, and that's what the General 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:39.200 Assembly thoughts, and you know, we'll we'll see what the referendumair. 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:41.760 Enough he is Ohio State Senator Steve Huffman from up 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:44.760 in Tipsity, just the tipsy. Thanks again, Senator, all the best, 1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:47.200 Thanks for jumping in the show and explaining things. And 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.720 it's it's good to see tax revenue coming in from 1:28:49.760 --> 1:28:51.800 the sale of marijuana. I hate to say I told 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:53.519 them so, but we told them so for the last 1:28:53.520 --> 1:28:56.559 twenty years. That's that's a lot of money that could 1:28:56.640 --> 1:28:59.599 change lives and help communities, especially during these difficult times. 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:01.840 All the best, you take care. 1:29:01.920 --> 1:29:04.800 One more thing. Sure it's a billion dollar industry in 1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:08.000 twenty five and that's a billion dollars not into the 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:08.880 hands of drug dealer. 1:29:08.960 --> 1:29:11.639 Yeah, that's true, exactly, exactly. All right, Well, you may 1:29:11.680 --> 1:29:17.240 make a case later for legalizing other things, probably not 1:29:17.439 --> 1:29:19.200 to look how hard it was to get marijuana. But 1:29:19.960 --> 1:29:22.160 you know, to each his own, I suppose Scott's Loan 1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:45.160 show seven hundred WWT girl starts of all sorts this morning, 1:29:45.160 --> 1:29:50.599 Sarah least social media times sports equals Sarah, Yeah. 1:29:50.560 --> 1:29:53.479 Sarah, Elise, One too eight is the social Do you 1:29:53.520 --> 1:29:55.320 know what one too eight stands for? 1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:01.600 Your birthday? 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:03.559 Ding? 1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:04.160 Ding ding? 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:07.479 Even in your old age, you are still wise my 1:30:07.600 --> 1:30:10.280 old age. I don't want to talk about it. I'm 1:30:10.320 --> 1:30:13.720 not there yet. I've got one or two or three. 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:16.080 It's like twenty nine plus tax is where I'm at 1:30:16.120 --> 1:30:18.080 right now. We're not we're not quite at the big 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:21.559 four zero. But today is the birthday. 1:30:21.560 --> 1:30:22.240 Thank you so much. 1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:24.920 Great day. We brought food in for you from Gonor's house. 1:30:24.960 --> 1:30:29.439 Oh how nice, delicious, A nice short red little basil 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:32.760 pesto butterto. 1:30:33.200 --> 1:30:34.120 That's delicious. Yeah. 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:36.800 We can eat more of that on the seventeenth for 1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:38.639 Fat Tuesday, for the big events. 1:30:38.720 --> 1:30:40.599 Yeah, we had a martograph folks in earlier this morning. 1:30:40.600 --> 1:30:41.880 You'll be there. I will be. 1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:45.120 Yeah, I will MC. I have a new one this 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:46.280 year with Tom Brenneman. 1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:48.080 I know about that. 1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:50.439 He's in for a good time. I told him to 1:30:50.479 --> 1:30:53.600 take the next day off. What are you taking the 1:30:53.680 --> 1:30:54.240 day off. 1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:58.040 Week? That's week? 1:30:58.160 --> 1:30:58.960 What do you mean it's week? 1:30:59.160 --> 1:31:00.840 You should take it off. Then we can all go 1:31:00.880 --> 1:31:01.400 out together. 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:01.840 Yeah. 1:31:02.479 --> 1:31:04.439 I took the Spirit Day. I'm like, no, we're going 1:31:04.479 --> 1:31:05.479 balls with the wall, sir. 1:31:06.120 --> 1:31:08.360 I used the Spirit Day for this one because I 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:11.280 learned my lesson last year. I'm like, look, I'm here 1:31:11.320 --> 1:31:13.160 to party and have a good time, Yes, you are. 1:31:13.960 --> 1:31:15.479 I wake up way too early. 1:31:16.360 --> 1:31:19.080 I'm like, we got to take this chair, sleep until 1:31:19.160 --> 1:31:20.880 six o'clock. You, on the other hand, we're going to. 1:31:20.880 --> 1:31:22.519 Go out with Tom and I. I'm going to talk 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:24.320 to you and Tom taking the day off, I think so. 1:31:24.479 --> 1:31:25.680 I think I talked him into it. 1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:26.599 I'll ask him. 1:31:26.680 --> 1:31:28.599 Yeah, So if you hear Steve the next day, or 1:31:28.680 --> 1:31:30.840 maybe Mike McConnell will come back out of retirement like 1:31:30.880 --> 1:31:31.640 our friend. 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:33.240 Mark, You'll be there, Michae'll be there. 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:34.559 Did you see that? 1:31:34.600 --> 1:31:34.840 Mark? 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:35.800 And sales is back? 1:31:36.280 --> 1:31:36.360 Like? 1:31:36.400 --> 1:31:37.479 What the hell is going on around? 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:40.320 Whenever leaves here? No only people to get that leave 1:31:40.360 --> 1:31:42.080 and darn't invited back. Our people in this side of 1:31:42.080 --> 1:31:44.439 the microphone. Everybody else come on back, or. 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:45.920 If they can't get in because of the snow. 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.080 Let's talk a little sports this morning here by the way, 1:31:48.160 --> 1:31:50.400 Marti graph for homeless kids on the seventeen. Sarah'll be there, 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:54.519 I'm the king, Sheila Gray, John John and Tom Brenneman. Yeah, 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:57.240 we're already party for a kid's chair. So anyway, Martin 1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.559 Grat twenty twenty six needs to sell some tickets here. 1:31:59.600 --> 1:32:01.559 It's a good mean for Valentine's If you're looking for something, 1:32:01.600 --> 1:32:02.200 it is awesome. 1:32:02.360 --> 1:32:05.280 It really is. The Joe Burrow Foundation. There are a 1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:07.360 big one on board this year, so it'll be it'll 1:32:07.400 --> 1:32:07.719 be great. 1:32:07.800 --> 1:32:08.800 Love it uh in. 1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:13.080 Big News Happy Birthday, by the way, thank you Big News. 1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:13.559 Miami. 1:32:15.000 --> 1:32:19.080 We're opening up again with the Miami RedHawks. We have 1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:22.960 we have nothing to day undefeated. This is something huge though. 1:32:23.040 --> 1:32:25.439 Had a huge crowd last night over like ninety two 1:32:25.520 --> 1:32:26.599 hundred kids showed up. 1:32:27.120 --> 1:32:30.519 Next Saturday. This upcoming Saturday's game sold out. 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:31.160 Love It. 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:34.000 I will be there in attendance. Tony Pike I believe 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:34.639 is coming. 1:32:34.920 --> 1:32:37.719 Okay, so they're guaranteed the Bearcats to the red Ox. 1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:40.400 I can you imagine you and Pike Pike shows up. 1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:46.200 That's an l I am kind of worried Pike is lose. 1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:49.479 In front of us of Death and Sports on this morning, 1:32:49.520 --> 1:32:52.000 they had a little segment on can Miam of Ohio 1:32:52.240 --> 1:32:53.320 win the national title? 1:32:53.520 --> 1:32:56.320 No, I don't know that's that's a big ask. But 1:32:56.680 --> 1:32:57.400 it's pretty cool. 1:32:57.320 --> 1:33:00.559 To see Miami on It is being talked about nationally 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:04.960 because the only other team that's undefeated right now is Arizona. 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:06.960 So I believe they're twenty two and oh. 1:33:06.920 --> 1:33:09.000 Or twenty one to know like Miami coach again, I 1:33:09.000 --> 1:33:10.200 forget Travis Steele. 1:33:10.600 --> 1:33:11.960 I know where do I know that name from? 1:33:12.280 --> 1:33:15.040 Maybe from another team here in Cincinnati. 1:33:14.520 --> 1:33:15.599 And how that other team doing? 1:33:16.000 --> 1:33:19.360 You know what no one's doing as well as what 1:33:19.400 --> 1:33:21.960 the Miami RedHawks are doing right now in college basketball. 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:23.639 But yeah, it is really cool to see my alma 1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:28.200 mater being praised on the national airwaves. And Travis Steele 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.640 was on with Willie yesterday and he said, look, my 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:33.240 family and I are really happy here in southwest Ohio. 1:33:33.280 --> 1:33:34.519 You do not have to worry. 1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:37.439 About us going anywhere. That's what he said to our 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:38.599 friend Billy Cunningham. 1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:41.000 Spend in big programs and stuff, and it's like there's 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:44.040 something to be said about being a little a big 1:33:44.080 --> 1:33:45.439 fish in a little ponds. 1:33:45.520 --> 1:33:49.400 Yeah, little Oxford Mac looking forward to being there this weekend. 1:33:49.439 --> 1:33:50.479 It's been a long time. 1:33:51.000 --> 1:33:54.719 I'm a Mac guy. My wife's a Mac guy. Maction, maction. 1:33:54.960 --> 1:33:57.240 I forgot your bgsu, aren't you g I. 1:33:57.160 --> 1:33:59.639 Did the sidelines in Toledo for a few years and 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:02.679 I'm a MACA. You support the Mac love the Mac. 1:34:03.720 --> 1:34:03.840 Uh. 1:34:04.040 --> 1:34:08.000 Something aside from college basketball if you were worried, if 1:34:08.000 --> 1:34:11.559 you were one of those fans that were worried about 1:34:11.640 --> 1:34:14.920 Joe Burrow leaving, did you. 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:16.520 Think he was going to leave Cincinnati? 1:34:17.520 --> 1:34:19.920 There were too many people on social media that were 1:34:19.920 --> 1:34:24.719 getting that rumor started. People on social media was trending, 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:25.719 what was trending? 1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:29.400 Social killed Dave Lapham, for God's sake. So it doesn't right, 1:34:29.479 --> 1:34:32.160 I mean, just social media stupid. Yeah, lap is alive, 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:34.280 and well, you're on social media a lot, and when 1:34:34.320 --> 1:34:39.240 it's it's really stupid. I've had to log off quite 1:34:39.280 --> 1:34:40.880 a few times lately. So I'm like, people are just 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:42.960 too too angry. 1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:47.120 Well, Chase Brown is coming to Joe's defense and he goes, look, 1:34:47.240 --> 1:34:50.040 chill out. He's talking to CBS Sports. He goes, Joe's 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:52.559 not going anywhere. I think that was totally blown out 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:55.280 of proportion, and Chase went on to say it was 1:34:55.280 --> 1:34:57.120 definitely a good talking point for people. 1:34:57.160 --> 1:34:59.200 Gave the media something to talk about. 1:34:59.439 --> 1:35:02.880 The media, the media and the people of social media 1:35:03.000 --> 1:35:05.519 spreading that. 1:35:06.240 --> 1:35:11.280 Damn media a bunch of idiots. He's not going anywhere. 1:35:11.320 --> 1:35:14.800 Okay, Joe Burrow is still Oi. 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.240 Shara's got a hydrate for this segment is how old 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:17.799 this business. 1:35:17.800 --> 1:35:18.559 I just had to. 1:35:18.520 --> 1:35:22.719 Dig a sip, like I'm getting dehydrated sitting in here. 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:26.840 Hard work. I gotta give you credit. 1:35:26.920 --> 1:35:29.160 Oh my yeah, what because I made it into work 1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:31.920 and some people didn't because of the quote unquote hundred percent. 1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:33.880 I said, here's the commitment Sarah has. She shows up 1:35:33.920 --> 1:35:35.559 to do the morning show it's a'm on Godly Hour 1:35:35.600 --> 1:35:37.679 and EBN and then comes in to do this segment 1:35:37.920 --> 1:35:40.559 right before noon. She's been here for seven eight hours 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:42.920 at least, been a long day taking it from from 1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:46.120 the hills of Kentucky. Seg Dennison, is m I a 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:47.840 for three straight days now? 1:35:48.960 --> 1:35:51.479 Tom Brenneman said, it's the ice. I guess the ice 1:35:51.640 --> 1:35:53.639 ice really bad and down. 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:55.479 Why would it be Why would the ice be bad 1:35:55.479 --> 1:35:56.360 in Middleton nowhere else? 1:35:56.439 --> 1:35:59.240 It's not like it's not a part of this universe. 1:35:59.280 --> 1:36:01.040 I mean, I don't get it. 1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:01.479 I don't know. 1:36:01.640 --> 1:36:02.280 I don't either. 1:36:03.000 --> 1:36:05.280 I could mind boggle. Monday, all right, if you can 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:06.680 do your job from home, do you job from home. 1:36:06.840 --> 1:36:08.639 And that's what Christopher and I did on Monday. 1:36:08.800 --> 1:36:10.679 But yesterday was like, okay, well they got the roads. 1:36:10.880 --> 1:36:12.519 I drove it on fine. Today it's like the roads 1:36:12.520 --> 1:36:13.280 are completely dry. 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:16.120 Yeah, the snow is nowhere near on the streets. 1:36:16.200 --> 1:36:19.519 It's just gonna I guarantee you he will be back Thursday. 1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:20.840 The roost is in tomorrow. 1:36:20.920 --> 1:36:22.880 His Chicken's coming out. I think it's a safe bet 1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:27.439 he'll be back tomorrow. Also, Joe Brow, how afraid are you? 1:36:27.840 --> 1:36:29.160 I don't know if I want to drive if he's 1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:30.479 on the road the same time, because if you're that 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:32.479 scared of driving, you shouldn't be driving. 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:35.160 You know, he's going five and a sixty five. It's 1:36:35.360 --> 1:36:36.360 best to stay home. 1:36:36.439 --> 1:36:38.280 Yeah, he's got it. He'll drive in tomorrow, but he'll 1:36:38.320 --> 1:36:40.760 have his hazards on. He'll be in the left lane 1:36:40.800 --> 1:36:41.640 doing four. 1:36:41.600 --> 1:36:43.400 With an ambulance to his side. 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:44.439 Uh. 1:36:44.720 --> 1:36:48.040 Still trending on social media Joe Burrow because a buddy 1:36:48.080 --> 1:36:50.200 of his took a photo of photo and a video 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:53.559 of him playing the piano somewhere very tropical. So people 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:56.360 are losing their minds over Joe Burrow playing the piano. 1:36:58.040 --> 1:37:00.080 Can check it out social It takes a lot. 1:37:01.080 --> 1:37:02.760 Right, he gets up in belches and it's like, oh 1:37:02.800 --> 1:37:04.080 my god, it's the greatest bel jubber. 1:37:04.200 --> 1:37:04.920 It's so hot. 1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:09.360 Goo lord it's Joe Burier exhausting if you're Joe in 1:37:09.360 --> 1:37:09.799 that regard. 1:37:09.920 --> 1:37:12.280 That's why he leaves, and that's why people thinking that 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:15.080 he's going to leave Cincinnati than he's like, you guys 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:16.240 are crazy here. 1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:16.840 What the heck's time? 1:37:17.200 --> 1:37:17.559 That's true. 1:37:17.560 --> 1:37:19.280 It's all on social doesn't matter what goes when he 1:37:19.320 --> 1:37:20.599 puts stuff up there. That's what happened. 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:22.400 He tries to be as private as he can. 1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:23.720 He should be, Yes, I get it. 1:37:23.680 --> 1:37:25.880 But yeah, some photos leaked of him with his family 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:28.840 on vacation and now he's playing the piano somewhere with 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:32.760 his buddies. But someone else who's trending, not exactly Cincinnati, 1:37:32.800 --> 1:37:33.920 but Bill Belichick. 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:36.760 I know, we talk about him a lot on the airwaves. 1:37:36.760 --> 1:37:40.439 Berserk it is Berserki. So he's not going to be 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:42.720 a first ballot Hall of Famer. Of course, this is 1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:46.360 according to Adam Schefter, who got that info out. Fell 1:37:46.400 --> 1:37:48.679 short of the forty out of fifty votes for induction 1:37:48.720 --> 1:37:50.080 into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:51.360 What do you gotta do? 1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:53.880 You got fifty votes and you only need forty. Yeah, 1:37:54.600 --> 1:37:56.320 I mean that's pretty much a slamdunk, getn't it? Who 1:37:56.360 --> 1:37:57.439 are the ten idiots, it said. 1:37:57.520 --> 1:37:59.719 Nah, I don't get it. What's going through their heads? 1:38:00.840 --> 1:38:01.400 By Gates? 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:03.760 Okay, great, there's two Controversi's great in the conference, but 1:38:04.439 --> 1:38:06.880 finding someone who isn't trying to you know, she's cutting 1:38:06.920 --> 1:38:07.479 quardies of winning. 1:38:07.520 --> 1:38:10.320 He's winning super Bowls. Mkay. If he was cheating that much, 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:11.599 he would be kicked out of league. 1:38:11.640 --> 1:38:13.519 Oh yeah, absolutely. Do you think he'll come back to 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:15.000 the NFL get out of college? 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:17.160 It's not really working. 1:38:16.920 --> 1:38:19.479 On it's not I think I think your window bust. 1:38:19.640 --> 1:38:21.120 I think a lot of things come. It's not just 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:22.960 the coach, but it's also the you know, you've got 1:38:23.000 --> 1:38:25.800 Tom Brady, You've got all these other elements and New England. 1:38:25.800 --> 1:38:29.400 There's no question about it. I just is it the. 1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:33.200 Baseball writers that that were voting because they're an angry 1:38:33.200 --> 1:38:33.679 bunch too. 1:38:33.800 --> 1:38:36.800 Absolutely they are. There's always drama with them. 1:38:36.880 --> 1:38:38.720 So I guess that Tom Brady isn't going to get 1:38:38.720 --> 1:38:40.759 this in the Hall of Fame. He'll be a shoe 1:38:40.840 --> 1:38:45.679 in not using this logic. No, I don't think so. Also, 1:38:45.800 --> 1:38:50.040 I like Tom Brady in the booth. I've really enjoyed 1:38:50.040 --> 1:38:50.800 his commentary. 1:38:50.880 --> 1:38:53.400 This Season's better than he's been Yeah, he really did 1:38:53.400 --> 1:38:54.000 a great job. 1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:55.439 It's better he's getting back. 1:38:55.479 --> 1:38:57.880 I like his analysis, and I think he's entertaining and 1:38:57.920 --> 1:38:59.759 he's well spoken and whatever. 1:38:59.840 --> 1:39:00.360 I like him. 1:39:00.360 --> 1:39:02.080 I wish he was doing the Super Bowl better than 1:39:02.120 --> 1:39:02.639 Tony Romo? 1:39:02.840 --> 1:39:05.599 Yes, do you like him better than Worlds better? 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:05.840 I know? 1:39:05.880 --> 1:39:07.880 My husband asked me the same thing. He's like, well, 1:39:07.880 --> 1:39:11.799 why him over Tony Romo? He's just easier to listen to. 1:39:11.800 --> 1:39:12.639 Tony's a dork. 1:39:12.800 --> 1:39:15.600 I don't know. I don't like Tony Romo. I'm not 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:17.639 a fan. Sorry, are you? Do you think of Tony? 1:39:18.400 --> 1:39:19.479 It's it's it's. 1:39:19.320 --> 1:39:21.320 So wishy washy, right, Like, It's like he'd be on 1:39:21.320 --> 1:39:22.920 one say, I mean you have to do that, you 1:39:22.960 --> 1:39:25.720 can't take sides. I guess it's he knows his stuff though. Man, 1:39:25.760 --> 1:39:28.519 he'll call a playout and it'll happen. Knows what he's 1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:29.320 talking about, of. 1:39:29.240 --> 1:39:31.800 Course he does. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. 1:39:32.360 --> 1:39:33.760 What about Chris Collinsworth. 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:36.040 Happy birthday to Chris Collinsworth. By the way, I think 1:39:36.080 --> 1:39:38.479 he had his birthday yesterday, so we're a day apart. 1:39:38.560 --> 1:39:39.360 That's what I'm asking. 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:42.519 I like Chris Collinsworth, I like his son. I think 1:39:42.560 --> 1:39:43.360 they're a great duo. 1:39:43.520 --> 1:39:45.240 If he were from I don't know any other city 1:39:45.240 --> 1:39:47.240 you'd hate on maybe. 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:49.320 Chris collins Worth. 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:51.240 Have you ever said, shut up Chris of the TV? 1:39:51.720 --> 1:39:52.320 I don't think so. 1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:55.400 I have good for you. Show up, Chris. 1:39:58.120 --> 1:40:02.040 I've heard he's a big fan of the Chiefs. You'll 1:40:02.080 --> 1:40:04.320 give a hard time for his love for Pat Mahomes 1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:06.960 and the Sheets. Okay, but it's like he can't really 1:40:07.040 --> 1:40:08.800 show favorites. He can't just go out and be a 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:10.240 Bengals fan. Twenty four seven. 1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:13.519 He's trying to do a job right, so respectible you whatever. 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:15.840 If it's local that that is the ass you're gonna get. 1:40:15.920 --> 1:40:16.960 Those slips are firmly. 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:21.160 The Miami Redhak right twenty one and oh. 1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:22.559 All right, we got how much time? We got time? 1:40:22.920 --> 1:40:26.360 Yeah, we've got local hoops back tonight. The Bearcats are oh, 1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:28.800 Dave said, three minutes. Okay, Bearcats are back at Fifth 1:40:28.800 --> 1:40:31.880 Third Arena tonight. They're hosting Bayler tip off at six 1:40:32.000 --> 1:40:35.600 thirty Bears the Bears. Yeah, the Zager Musketeers are on 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:39.920 the road. They've got Seaton Hall at seven thirty, which 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:41.720 game is on the airwaves here the Bearcats. 1:40:41.880 --> 1:40:42.679 That's who we favor. 1:40:43.040 --> 1:40:44.720 Thank you the Bearcats. 1:40:44.240 --> 1:40:47.800 Here on the home of yours Cincinnati. 1:40:47.240 --> 1:40:49.160 Reds on the home of the Cincinnata Bearcats. 1:40:49.200 --> 1:40:52.479 And then you got you got the Travis or I'm sorry, 1:40:52.479 --> 1:40:55.639 you got the u X, the X, the U via 1:40:55.720 --> 1:40:59.800 the u V. The X is playing on fifty five 1:41:00.400 --> 1:41:02.839 Arc D talk station. 1:41:03.000 --> 1:41:04.559 Thank you, Seg, thank you. 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:07.960 Speaking of our ruds, fifty seven days to go until 1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:08.639 opening day. 1:41:08.960 --> 1:41:11.559 The countdown is countdown is officially on. 1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:16.000 How many days we've got Red Hawks and Ruds. God, 1:41:16.320 --> 1:41:18.680 I know my dad, being a huge Bengals fan every 1:41:18.720 --> 1:41:20.320 day sends me some sort of countdown. 1:41:20.360 --> 1:41:22.639 He's not really on board with baseball. 1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:24.920 I don't know if they've not done anything though to warranty. 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:27.640 Yeah, I'm like, what are we What are we excited about? 1:41:27.960 --> 1:41:29.759 Zack moving forward? 1:41:29.920 --> 1:41:33.800 Arguably worse because other guys are gonna go right, all right, 1:41:33.800 --> 1:41:34.719 So be careful, Seg. 1:41:34.720 --> 1:41:36.439 If you drive it in today out of the peer pressure. 1:41:36.760 --> 1:41:37.879 No, we'll see him tomorrow. 1:41:38.439 --> 1:41:41.519 Maybe what's Chicken Day, He'll be here, segment here. 1:41:41.560 --> 1:41:43.280 Everyone be safe out there on the roads that have 1:41:43.400 --> 1:41:45.879 nothing on them. Yeah, all the words are clear, excepparently Middletown. 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:46.880 It's the only one that's not. 1:41:47.280 --> 1:41:50.200 Middletown is under the snow and ice and dramas. 1:41:50.200 --> 1:41:51.879 They stole the plows and sold it for scrap. 1:41:52.000 --> 1:41:52.920 They forgot about them. 1:41:52.960 --> 1:41:54.160 I guess I'm more crack. 1:41:54.280 --> 1:41:54.680 I don't know. 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:58.599 You know how icy it is too? Seriously, it's so icy. 1:41:58.640 --> 1:42:00.760 The Camtaylor brit Only is doing twenty miles over the 1:42:00.760 --> 1:42:01.280 speed limit. 1:42:01.479 --> 1:42:04.760 Oh my god. I wasn't even going to bring it up. 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:06.400 It makes me so mad. 1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:07.840 What do you do? 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:10.160 There's an acces morning on Fort washing Away. People calling 1:42:10.200 --> 1:42:11.760 the news from like crazy. It was car and it 1:42:11.800 --> 1:42:13.240 has it to be like seven o'clock in the morning. 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:16.080 Somehow a car you may see on the news ended 1:42:16.160 --> 1:42:18.960 up with sticking straight up and down on the on 1:42:19.040 --> 1:42:21.599 the Uh, oh my god. And Fort Washington Away. 1:42:21.600 --> 1:42:22.679 I don't know how does that happen? 1:42:22.720 --> 1:42:26.240 Did you drive like an idiot? And I said, it's 1:42:26.240 --> 1:42:29.240 like it's between paycour and Great America. Like Cam turn 1:42:29.280 --> 1:42:30.960 to bring us a way into the stadium for some reason, 1:42:31.000 --> 1:42:33.200 we don't know about how anywhere Kay's cann that. 1:42:33.240 --> 1:42:34.360 Guy can he wreck? 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:38.839 I'm done with Cam Taylor CTB. No, I cannot support 1:42:39.120 --> 1:42:42.200 So yeah, they've got to read that absolutely crazy behavior. 1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:44.760 They got a load all right. Anyway, Sarah Releas is here. 1:42:44.800 --> 1:42:46.679 Wish your happy birthday on our social media. 1:42:46.479 --> 1:42:49.160 Feedware, Sarah least one two eight one. 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:50.639 Two eight, Happy fortieth for Sarah. 1:42:50.760 --> 1:42:51.880 Twenty nine plus tax. 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:53.519 That's a lot of tax. 1:42:53.680 --> 1:42:55.879 That's not that much. It's not as much as you think. 1:42:55.840 --> 1:42:58.559 Like California, a little bit like New York City tax. 1:42:59.200 --> 1:43:03.600 I'm twenty nine attacks I'm forty. 1:43:03.640 --> 1:43:06.000 It's like twenty nine ish. We're not We're not at 1:43:06.040 --> 1:43:09.680 forty twenty. We are not at forty, not yet. I 1:43:09.720 --> 1:43:12.880 will not be here when I turned forty, I will 1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:13.639 not be here. 1:43:14.000 --> 1:43:14.479 You'll be here. 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:18.400 I am getting out of Cincinnati, You'll be here. Uh huh, 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:19.240 I probably will. 1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:19.439 We are. 1:43:19.479 --> 1:43:20.000 You're gonna go. 1:43:20.120 --> 1:43:21.559 I well know where else am I gonna go. 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:25.639 She'll be sitting in ten years, she'll be just walk 1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:28.599 into a restaurant somewhere at ten o'clock on a Tuesday morning. 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:33.680 She's there, just in Covington, just ripping Virginia slims, doing shaw. 1:43:33.760 --> 1:43:37.799 Did you used to be Sarah Lee's Yeah, yeah, yeah, honey, 1:43:39.720 --> 1:43:41.200 all of a sudden, I'm taking up smoking. 1:43:41.600 --> 1:43:44.719 Yeah, yeah, you're gonna go all the way down. Hey, hotie, 1:43:44.800 --> 1:43:49.200 Yeah he turned the mard shot, not exactly. Can I 1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:52.839 get my pictures, I guess Sarah tomorrow Morning kick Christie 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:56.000 two seventy, Happy birthday, dear, thanks for popping and thank 1:43:56.040 --> 1:43:56.839 you for risking. 1:43:56.640 --> 1:43:58.040 Your life to come out of the icy road. 1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:00.400 I risked it all just to be here today. Sports 1:44:00.439 --> 1:44:02.880 person we have in the station, still dedicated to the craft. 1:44:02.960 --> 1:44:06.040 That's right, Sarah Least. Bill Cunningham, Sex and Able are 1:44:06.080 --> 1:44:07.360 next seven hundred WLW