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Speaker 2: Show set up for today one o'clock every Thursday. John

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Speaker 2: biggest news I think happened an hour or two ago,

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Speaker 2: maybe three, on Good Morning Football, when Ian Rappaport was

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Speaker 2: giving the injury updates ahead of tonight's game. And here

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Speaker 3: Calvin Austin, one of the young young receivers for the

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Speaker 2: When you think of Pittsburgh Steeler football, you often think

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Speaker 2: drive you insane? It would drive me insane if I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to build a brand, if I'm trying to get

432
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Speaker 2: this organization leveled up, if I was Elizabeth and Caroline,

433
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: it would drive me nuts that even though we've done

434
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Speaker 2: all these good things, and you understand you have a

435
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: long way to go, still the only thing people care

436
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: about is this perception that we are cheap. Meanwhile, there

437
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Speaker 2: are things happening in the way that the football team

438
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Speaker 2: is being built and operated that suggest we have turned

439
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Speaker 2: a corner. Moe was talking about this yesterday, the benching

440
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Speaker 2: of Logan Wilson. It's very Unbengal like we're Moe's words,

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00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: He's exactly right. It's a good thing. When the Bengal

442
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Speaker 2: like things start happening that are Unbanngal like. When that

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00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: starts happening, that's a good thing. That's an indication that

444
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Speaker 2: the organization has turned a corner. What do we always

445
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: say about in season trades, Ah, Bengals just don't do that.

446
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: They never do that. Nope, never do it. Well, they've

447
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: done it twice in the last two seasons. They traded

448
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Speaker 2: for Khalil Herbert and they traded for Joe Flacco. And

449
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: whether or not those moves worked out, and Khalil Herbert

450
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: was fine. He fumbled his first carry, but he was fine,

451
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Speaker 2: and they needed to do it, and they needed to

452
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Speaker 2: do this for Joe Flacco. The fact of the matter remains,

453
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Speaker 2: they did something. Instead of sitting on their hands and

454
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Speaker 2: watching the thing fully explode, they did something. And while

455
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: they screwed up the way they went about the Chase

456
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: and Higgins contracts, they did something. They signed those players,

457
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Speaker 2: they gave them that money, they met those guarantees. They

458
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Speaker 2: added a void year to the Trey Henderson contract, which

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Speaker 2: they never do. The first time I may ever put

460
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Speaker 2: a void year in a contract was Riley Reef a

461
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: few years ago. The offensive tackle they signed from Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: They're so slowly starting to get with the rest of

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Speaker 2: the league, and yet the narrative remains that they're cheap

464
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: and that's all people ever want to talk about. And

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Speaker 2: I get it, and there is a long history of

466
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: such to tell you that and for people to bank

467
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: on in the stadium deal and all of it. Like

468
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: I hear you one hundred percent. The Bengals objective in

469
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: two operations, two different parts of the operation here in

470
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: football operations is and should be to be aggressive in

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Speaker 2: the pursuit of a championship and to not sit on

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Speaker 2: their hands under any circumstances. And on the business side

473
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: of things should be, hey, look at what we're doing

474
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: over there. We're trying our ass off and we've turned

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Speaker 2: the corner to be an elite organization. Now, those two

476
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: things have to work together. And as I said yesterday,

477
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: when you do stuff like the White Bengal and your

478
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: team isn't good enough and you get embarrassed on national television,

479
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: it shouldn't mean that you stop doing the White Bengal.

480
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: It should mean that the product on the field has

481
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Speaker 2: to meet the business off the field, because if the

482
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: product on the field doesn't it hurts the business more

483
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: than anything else. Fans go running, season tickets don't renew,

484
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: nobody starts to take you seriously, and all that talk

485
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Speaker 2: about all the good stuff you've done in the last

486
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: couple of years is just to flash in the pan.

487
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: And the same can be said about employing coaches or

488
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: gms or front office members for too long. Nobody thinks

489
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: the Bengals are going to fire Zach Taylor. Why Ah,

490
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: the Bengals don't do that. Marvin Lewis was here for

491
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: sixteen years now. There's a couple of times they should

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Speaker 2: have fired Marvin and they didn't. The narrative is that

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Speaker 2: the organization is too stubborn and too cheap. And while

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Speaker 2: while I have been touting for a long time, now

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Speaker 2: that that narrative has started to shift and the Bengals

496
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: are doing a lot of things the right way, I

497
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: still acknowledge that they're further away. They're still far away

498
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Speaker 2: from where they need to be. And while you know,

499
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Whitworth being the ruler of the jungle maybe is not

500
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: really that indicative of where they're at, nor does it

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Speaker 2: have that much bearing on what happens on the field.

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Speaker 2: I understand that it is at least an acknowledgment. Acknowledgement

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00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: from the Bengals is like, hey, just because you're mad

504
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: at us, or just because you've criticized us, we're not

505
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: going to shun you. That's smart, that's a good thing.

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00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: They should not do stuff like that, and I'm glad

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Speaker 2: they aren't. And to circle back just to the point

508
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Speaker 2: I made just a second ago, the narrative around the

509
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: coaching staff and around the organization and all of that,

510
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: I've said, and I stand by that. I don't think

511
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor should be the head coach of the Bengals anymore.

512
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: I think that you know it's finished. I don't know

513
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: that there's going to be something that happens between now

514
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: and the end of the year that's going to change

515
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: my mind. But I also acknowledge that that's not entirely

516
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Speaker 2: Zach's fault. And if you really want the narrative to shift,

517
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: you'll can the guy who's been there for twenty years

518
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: and accomplish nothing in Duke Tobin. If you are serious

519
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: about being all in in the window that Joe Burrow

520
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: has offered you in his career, you need desperately a

521
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: breath of fresh air in the personnel department. Duke Tobin,

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Speaker 2: while I think is a relatively good guy, and I

523
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: don't know him personally, but I do know that he

524
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: doesn't talk, he doesn't answer for what he does, and

525
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: he has failed miserably over and over and over and

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Speaker 2: over again. And if you want the narrative to change

527
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: and to let people know that you're serious about winning,

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Speaker 2: it's not just firing a head coach. It's not just

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Speaker 2: trading for a forty year old quarterback. It's holding the

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Speaker 2: people within the organization to a standard as well. Much

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Speaker 2: like you hold a player to a standard, you hold

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Speaker 2: your own people to a standard as well. And tonight

533
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: and today is not about firing Zach Taylor and firing

534
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: Duke Toben. But these are the points in the season

535
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: where you start to investigate. And you're not really investigate,

536
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: but you really start to look at where the organization

537
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: is at. Because, as I've said several times before, this

538
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: is a turning point. This is when the magnifying glass

539
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: comes out. This is when all the eyeballs are on.

540
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: How does the team respond, how do they perform? And

541
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Speaker 2: based off the result, how do you pivot? This is

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00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: a big, big, moment for this organization starting tonight. Phone

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Speaker 2: lines open five point three seven four N fifteen thirty.

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00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm Austin Elmore. This is our one since he three

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Speaker 2: to sixty. Right here on the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 11: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 11: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. Fay Shudding,

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Speaker 11: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since e three sixty, since beautiful day in Cincinnati.

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00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: Gonna be a beautiful night for football. Feels like football

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Speaker 2: weather at pay Corps Stadium tonight Bengals Steelers eight fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Phone lines open at five one three seven four nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's go to the phones. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: our old friend John Michael. Hi, John, How are you.

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 13: Often?

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00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 14: How you doing?

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00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Wonderful man? How have you been.

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00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 15: Well?

561
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 10: I'm going through a little little spatter depression. I don't

562
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 10: really need to say why, but I think we all know.

563
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, I took that all that stuff

564
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 10: really hard and everything. But you just said about Duke Tobin,

565
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 10: who has been the face of the franchise for like,

566
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 10: not the face, but the decision maker for twenty years,

567
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 10: and he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to like

568
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Speaker 10: like people are asking, like what's going on, he doesn't

569
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Speaker 10: have to speak for it. And it kind of sounds

570
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 10: like I've got this new thing I'm doing. I'm going

571
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 10: to give you a promo here. It kind of sounds

572
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 10: like Dick Tueban is like the same guy that runs iHeartMedia.

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00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 16: Here it goes back back back mode.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to respond to that, John Michael.

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Speaker 4: Do you think I was pretty good?

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Speaker 17: Now?

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00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: The air horn specifically, you did a great job, did

578
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: you did you say did you say fax mode F

579
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Speaker 2: A C T S fax mode?

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00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, facts mad machine.

581
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Speaker 18: Yeah.

582
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Speaker 2: I was just making sure everybody was clear on that.

583
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, because the people at a Heart don't have to

584
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 10: answer for their miscalculations either.

585
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying.

587
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying.

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00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: But you you went up to.

589
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 10: That Green Bay and everything. I was there, like I

590
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 10: don't know, like eight years ago. It was like the

591
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 10: hottest game ever in green Bay history. And they is

592
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 10: the most gentle, nice people of all time, the green

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Speaker 10: Bay fans, And it's like a it's like a little community.

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00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 10: I mean when you say it's right in the middle

595
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 10: of a neighborhood, people are like, oh, that's kind of weird.

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00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: It's like it's elder or.

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Speaker 10: Is that Lasal No, it's it's the Green Bay Packard's Lamby.

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00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 10: Like we was just walking through. Me and my mom

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00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 10: was walking through, and people was like, hey, you guys

601
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 10: are mangles fans. My mom was like, yeah, Wes bangle

602
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 10: fans and I was like, yeah, we use mangle fans.

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00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: She spoke for both of us, and.

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Speaker 10: There was like, would you like to hold my baby?

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Speaker 10: And I was like, I've never held a baby in

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Speaker 10: my life, and they wanted to picture all my mom

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Speaker 10: and I was like, this is weird. But I look

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00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 10: like somebody that would hold somebody else's baby. I mean

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00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 10: you've seen me. I look approachable that.

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Speaker 2: Way, right. Oh yeah. And that's just how the good

611
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: folks of Green Bay are man and nicest people I've

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00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: ever met.

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00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that.

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00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 10: You know who's not nice? Those dudes up there in

615
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Speaker 10: ann Arbor.

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Speaker 2: No bad people, really mean people. I mean that's it.

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00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: I was not treated well when I when I went

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00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: up there wearing some some scarlet and gray.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's just a T shirt. Man, it's laundry, right.

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00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 10: I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't do a

621
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 10: whiz on somebody just because they're at the laundromat and

622
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 10: they it's like, man, that's your somebody else's underwear. Man, like,

623
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 10: get out here. But I love you so much and

624
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 10: you're doing a great job, and I think he's gonna

625
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 10: take off and everything like that with this program, and

626
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 10: you has always been really calm to me. I've sent

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00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 10: you some side texts even though you haven't answered in

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Speaker 10: the last like two and a half months.

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Speaker 4: I get that.

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Speaker 10: I understand that, like maybe like a thumbs up emoji,

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00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 10: whether it's a yellow hand or just like a you know,

632
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 10: but I appreciate that, and I understand what you're going

633
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 10: through working with that guy side by side for as.

634
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 17: Long as you did.

635
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Speaker 10: And you, you guys built this program, not that that

636
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 10: James rapping guy. You guys built this program. And I

637
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 10: appreciate everything you do for us as listeners. And when

638
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 10: you talk about green Bay being the nicest fans in

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00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 10: the world since the three sixties, community has been the

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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 10: absolute most amazing community I've ever been a part of

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 10: in my entire life. And I thank all the callers,

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 10: all the tallbackers, everybody, even Mike in la Hey School.

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Speaker 2: I love that guy too.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: That is unbelievably kind of you, John, and I appreciate

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: all your support over the years. I appreciate your text

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00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 2: even if I don't always respond to them or give

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Speaker 2: you a thumbs up, but uh, thank you.

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Speaker 10: And just to all the callers now I've been on

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Speaker 10: hold for three and a half weeks.

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Speaker 12: I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you John. It's uh John, Michael. You know, as

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Speaker 2: we were talking to John there, I got a little

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Speaker 2: bit of breaking news here. I'm gonna have to investigate this.

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Speaker 2: Kay Adams was apparently just talking to Chris Collinsworth on

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Speaker 2: her show, and Collinsworth apparently said that Michael Jordan, the Great,

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, the basketball Michael Jordan is a Bengals fan.

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Speaker 2: This would be news to me. I know when Mike

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Speaker 2: was was growing up in North Carolina, there was no

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Speaker 2: NFL team over there. I don't know if there would

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Speaker 2: be any connections to Michael Jordan on the Bengals, and

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Speaker 2: don't know that there's any Jordan athletes on the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: He was at an Eagles game earlier this year. Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts is kind of the face of Jordan in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody know anything about this? Because this would change

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Speaker 2: my life significantly. There may not be an athlete that

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Speaker 2: I adore more than Michael Jeffrey Jordan. If anybody knows

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Speaker 2: anything about this, let me know. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We got time for another quick phone call.

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Speaker 2: Let's go from John Michael to Dick in Dayton. What's up, Dick?

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Speaker 12: Where do you say, Austin?

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day. It feels like football outside Richard.

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Speaker 12: Yes it does, Yes it does.

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Speaker 2: You ever play football growing up, Dick?

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Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I did one year and never again.

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Speaker 15: I start.

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Speaker 12: You know, I played in the Centerville Marching Band, but

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Speaker 12: I played Clarnet, but I'd rather played what remember one, David?

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Speaker 12: I saw you. But Austin, I don't think we realized.

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Speaker 12: You know what happened about Joe Burrow. That's so sad.

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Speaker 12: But Flacco last week for coming in there, Austin I

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Speaker 12: thought looked pretty good on those drives. You don't, yeah

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Speaker 12: any good?

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Speaker 2: He took care of the ball. He didn't turn it over,

687
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Speaker 2: and in the second hand he started throwing it our

688
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: second half, he just started throwing it up to Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 12: Yeah. And I know over the years, Austin, I could

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Speaker 12: remember in college, I don't I forget. I know, the

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Speaker 12: Bengals beat them one year and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 12: I forget when they kidding. They never had back in

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Speaker 12: the seventies eighties much luck. So I think Boomer came

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Speaker 12: because they lost, like the Browns did so many in

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Speaker 12: that stadium. But the defense has to play good tonight, Austin. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: the defense has to play pretty good, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I mean you got

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Speaker 2: to be able to slow down Aaron Rodgers a little

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Speaker 2: bit and get off the field a little bit. Dick.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a prediction for tonight's game?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm going to take the Bengals twenty seven to

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Speaker 12: twenty four.

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Speaker 2: All right, perfect, Dick. I will write that down. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for the phone call.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, good talking to you.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Likewise, a bit of a Friday field here on a

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Speaker 2: Thursday on Sincy three to sixty Seki Sincinnati. He's going

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Speaker 2: on in the NFL.

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Speaker 11: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Since A three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore

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Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes before we take a break

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Speaker 2: and start our number two with John Shearon from a

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Speaker 2: hiss E Sports and the Orange and Black Insider podcast.

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Speaker 2: John gave his report cards and talked about a couple

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Speaker 2: of players that I'm interested in talking to him about,

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Speaker 2: including DJ Turner, who quietly has turned his season around

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Speaker 2: and hopefully his career around the way he's played over

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Speaker 2: the last month or so and had a wonderful performance

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Speaker 2: on Sunday in Green Bay. Going to be a bit

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Speaker 2: of a different challenge tonight against DK Metcalf, who is

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Speaker 2: just a bigger, more physical wide receiver, and one of

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Speaker 2: the things I'm going to be looking out for tonight

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Speaker 2: is yak that would be yards after catch. This is

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Speaker 2: where the Bengals and the Steelers are polar opposites in

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Speaker 2: a way. The Bengals no team in the NFL has

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Speaker 2: allowed more YAK than the Cincinnati Bengals. That's not a

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Speaker 2: surprise because number one, they're not good tacklers, and number two,

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Speaker 2: the defenders are normally nowhere near the wide receiver when

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Speaker 2: they catch the pass. There's a lot of open runners

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Speaker 2: and easy separation in the Bengals defense. And secondly, the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh wide receivers number one in the NFL in YAK.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh receivers are averaging seven point seven yards after catch

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Speaker 2: per catch. That's the best in the NFL by far. Now,

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Speaker 2: one of those was a long eighty yard touchdown to

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, and that obviously will skew the numbers a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but goes without saying one of the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: strengths is their ability to create separation and catch the

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Speaker 2: ball and get yards after catch, and one of the

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Speaker 2: Bengals weaknesses is allowing said yards after catch and the

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Speaker 2: inability to tackle. So gonna be curious to see how

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Speaker 2: that shakes out tonight and if the Bengals are able

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Speaker 2: to be a little stickier in coverage, and if so,

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Speaker 2: if that's gonna cut down on some of that YAK

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Speaker 2: and maybe improve some of the tackling issues that the

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Speaker 2: Bengals have had over the last couple of weeks and

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Speaker 2: really all season long. When we come back, John Sharon

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Speaker 2: joins us as he does every Thursday at one o'clock

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Speaker 2: to talk Bengals and Steelers. This is the home of

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Speaker 2: something white, like our guy Moegger most still looking for

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Speaker 2: something white. He does this every single year. Figure it out.

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Speaker 2: You're a grown man. Another grown man is joining the show.

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Speaker 2: Now our guy On Sheeran who talks Bengals with me

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Speaker 2: every single Thursday, and he joins us. Now I had

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Speaker 2: a Thursday night football John. You got you got any

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Speaker 2: white on you got any white Bengal gear for you?

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Speaker 2: Just watch the game or what are you going to

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Speaker 2: the game? What's going on? John, don't know what's good?

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Speaker 22: Said?

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Speaker 9: I appreciate you asking, Austin, because I am going to

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Speaker 9: the game. Let's go in the game with another I'm

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Speaker 9: going to the game with another girl. Man whose name

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Speaker 9: is my dad, and he also forgot to wear white today,

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Speaker 9: and I'm like, come on, Dad, like everyone knows what

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Speaker 9: this game is.

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Speaker 2: So I'm actually in.

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Speaker 9: The parking lot of Dick's Morning Goods about to get

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Speaker 9: him like a cheap white shirt so you can wear

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Speaker 9: it tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome and it sounds like something my dad would

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Speaker 2: do as well. So let's start with the matchups tonight

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Speaker 2: this game. When you think Bengals Steelers, when you think

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Speaker 2: about this game, what's the first matchup that comes to

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Speaker 2: mind in what will determine the outcome?

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Speaker 9: It's always the Pittsburgh defensive line, is it not. It's

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Speaker 9: been the staple of them for how many years?

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Speaker 2: Fifty?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 9: But they've always had good pass rushers, right, They've always

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Speaker 9: had good guys up front, and the Bengals offensive line

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Speaker 9: has always struck against that no matter what the personnel is.

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Speaker 9: I remember, you know, in the last years. The Jonah

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Speaker 9: Williams this year like he got you know, beaten like

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Speaker 9: a ren and mule against Alex Highsmith and company. Alex

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Speaker 9: Highsmith is still there, and I think that's a really

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Speaker 9: good matchup for Pittsburgh against Ronanda Brown Junior, who's not

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Speaker 9: having a really good season, and I think he's the

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Speaker 9: type of pass rusher that can get under your pads,

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Speaker 9: you can win around the edge, and that's always been

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Speaker 9: the player archetype that is, you know, Caused Orleon Brown,

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Speaker 9: You're going to struggle. So when you're talking about Steelers

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Speaker 9: defensive line that has not just Alex Heismith. Obviously t J.

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Speaker 9: Watt and Cameron Hayward are the main guys there. And

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Speaker 9: Cameron Hayward, you know, baptized as a rookie guard for

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Speaker 9: the Bengals basically every single year, and now you have

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Speaker 9: two of them, and Dylan Fairchild and Jalen Rivers going

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Speaker 9: up against them for the first time. That's just the

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Speaker 9: grown man in Cam Hayward, who's thirty six years old

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Speaker 9: and still is one of the very best players in

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Speaker 9: this position. So it's always been a mismatch for the

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Speaker 9: Bengals up front. Trying to block these guys, and now

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Speaker 9: that you have a quarterback and Joe Flacco who should

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Speaker 9: be more a little bit more comfortable in his offense

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Speaker 9: after being here for a week instead of just a

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Speaker 9: handful of days. But still I'm interested, just like I

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Speaker 9: was last week, and how Flacco handles the pressure, and

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Speaker 9: how the Bengals office line make sure that they mitigate,

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Speaker 9: you know, the obvious mismatches there to make sure the

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Speaker 9: ball gets out, make sure that the defensive lineman don't

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Speaker 9: ruin the game like they typically normally do in this matchup.

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Speaker 2: Now, I did think that Flacco looked a little bit

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Speaker 2: slow when he was trying to avoid the rush against

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, but I also thought that was okay, Like

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Speaker 2: that was good enough of a performance. There's something there.

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Speaker 2: What did you like about what you saw from Flacco

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Speaker 2: against the Packers?

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Speaker 9: I mean, you needed to see what he did in

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Speaker 9: the second half, right, because the first half obviously wasn't

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Speaker 9: good enough. This team still hasn't scored the first half

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Speaker 9: touchdowns since Week two. Right, Joe Burrow was in there,

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Speaker 9: and you'd like to see him get into rhythm and

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Speaker 9: just just trust the playmakers on the outside. I think

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Speaker 9: the majority of his targets went went to Jamar Chase

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Speaker 9: and Tiggins, and with Mike aseeki out for the foreseeable future,

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Speaker 9: that should remain the case, especially with andre Yosabatch not

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Speaker 9: necessarily having a good season on his own, but taking

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Speaker 9: advantage of one on one matchups when you get it

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Speaker 9: with Chase and Higgins on the boundary. If Flaco still

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Speaker 9: trusts his arm, he's still accurate enough to get the

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Speaker 9: ball where it needs to go, and he's been a

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Speaker 9: lot more efficient with getting the ball out under two

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Speaker 9: and a half seconds. I believe Paul and your junior

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Speaker 9: had pulled up some great stats in this last article

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Speaker 9: with The Athletic about how much more efficient the offense

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Speaker 9: is with Flackera getting the ball out within the first

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Speaker 9: few half seconds compared to Jake Brownie. And that is

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Speaker 9: going to be the base of this offense because again,

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Speaker 9: you can't trust pass protection against matchups like this, so

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Speaker 9: Flacco needs to be sustained rhythm to identify, you know,

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Speaker 9: where the matchups are at his disposal, and just take

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Speaker 9: advantage of Jamar Chase and Tiggins because they're going to

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Speaker 9: be advantages against most quarterbacks that they play, especially tonight,

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Speaker 9: like Darius Slay Junior and Joey Porter Junior and Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 9: They're all really good quarterbacks, but you still don't want

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Speaker 9: to take advantage of Jamar Chase when you have them,

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Speaker 9: and I think seeing that connection grow last week against

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Speaker 9: the Packers that was a really promising sign.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. The other thing, too,

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Speaker 2: is being able to run the football. They weren't great

863
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Speaker 2: against the Packers. They haven't been great all season. The

864
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Steelers sixteenth ranked run defense, allowing over one hundred yards

865
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: per game on the ground. Do you feel like tonight

866
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: is a chance for them to get it going at all?

867
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: Even though that Steeler defensive line is good, Like you mentioned, it's.

868
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 9: Really tough to imagine at this point, they are on

869
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 9: track to maybe one of the worst rushing offenses in

870
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 9: the history of the league. And it's troubling to see

871
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 9: how Chase Brown can't get anything going in front of him,

872
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 9: and the fact that they can't utilize his athleticism and

873
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 9: his bursts and everything like that. It still remains a

874
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 9: really porous scheme. And I think the stunts and the

875
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 9: games that the Steelers defensive line typically run it makes

876
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 9: things a little bit more complicated, like that there are

877
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 9: high risk, high reward opportunities when defensive linemen kind of

878
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 9: slant in the rushes a little bit and trees up

879
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 9: some gaps. But if you don't have the confident bodies

880
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 9: up front to give them out of the way and

881
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 9: displace them, then it ends up disrupting you more times

882
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 9: than not. So it's always been tough to run against

883
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 9: the Steelers. Again, they cause a lot of chaos up front,

884
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 9: and I just there's not a lot of confidence right

885
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 9: now for me.

886
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: In the personnel upfront for blocking to these guys.

887
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 9: You like how hard some oboip around runs, and you

888
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 9: like the fact that Chase Brown he can't get a

889
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 9: full head of scene when you have a little bit

890
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 9: of space, but there's just not a lot of space

891
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 9: to be found, and it's hard for me to see

892
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 9: any space being found tonight.

893
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: How do you expect the to change, if at all,

894
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: with Mike Giseki being out.

895
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think we saw how Tanner Hudson could fill

896
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 9: that role a little bit. He caught the touchdown last week,

897
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 9: but now he's in the concussion protocol, right, So you

898
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 9: go from an offense that had five fight ins at

899
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 9: the disposed of down to three, and with Kaseki out,

900
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 9: that does mean that yose Vass is going to play more.

901
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 9: You could see more snaps for a guy like Mitchell Tinsley,

902
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 9: who's now wide receiver for Charlie Jones is still dealing

903
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 9: with an injury, and Jermaine Burden he's in limbo obviously,

904
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 9: so you would expect to see, you know, more usage

905
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 9: deeper into the wide receiver group for the guys who

906
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 9: are active. I would like to see Noah Fan get

907
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 9: some more opportunities as well. It seems like in the

908
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 9: game three he's involved. He's always ad at least four targets,

909
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 9: which I think is a little bit more than that

910
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 9: even I expected for a guy who was signed so

911
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 9: late in the offseason. But you know, this is an

912
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 9: interesting night to see who Flaco trusts in those opportunities.

913
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 9: Because obviously, Drew Sample and Cam Grandy, we know who

914
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 9: they are. They're just in there to block and catch

915
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 9: and catch, you know, short passes and try to run

916
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 9: after the catch. But no Fan, I think needs to

917
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 9: take another step up, and I'm interested to see if

918
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 9: Flacco trusted enough.

919
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: To do that.

920
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 2: Talking to John sharing covering the Bengals a toes Sports,

921
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: Johnny wrote your Bengals report card, and you mentioned DJ

922
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: Turner as being a pleasant surprise, and especially the way

923
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: he's played over the last month and the way he

924
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: played against Green Bay. What have you seen from him

925
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: that makes him or has led to a little bit

926
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: more consistent and an uptick in his level of play.

927
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 9: I think when you have an elite athlete like DJ Turner, right,

928
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 9: the number one thing for him at qrarnerback is to

929
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 9: control that antholicism and matching mirror the speed of the

930
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 9: guys that he's going up against, because that allows him

931
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 9: to stay in position to make plays in the ball.

932
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 17: Right.

933
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 9: It's one thing to be fast enough to be able

934
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 9: to stay with a guy on a vertical round, right,

935
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 9: but your changing the direction, your balance, your ability to

936
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 9: stay in the hip hocket these guys and be physical.

937
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 9: I think Dj has shown pretty much all of those

938
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 9: qualifications and all those attributes, and now he's finding the

939
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 9: ball out better. Like you don't get five pass the

940
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 9: defense in one game out of pure luck, right, Like

941
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 9: quarterbacks are obviously testing you. But I think DJ really

942
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 9: showed a lot last week, and not only staying with

943
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 9: guys but then finding the ball making a play on the bable.

944
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 9: That's Those are the impact plays that you don't always

945
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 9: see from this secondary, and you haven't really seen from

946
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 9: a cornerback in the secondary in a while. You saw

947
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 9: a little bit flashes with that of Cam Tilbert when

948
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 9: he was on his game, but obviously he hasn't been

949
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 9: on his game for quite some time. So it looks

950
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 9: like Turner is the guy that they would trust the

951
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 9: most going up against you know whoever the opposing number

952
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 9: one receivers this week. Is really interesting because DK Metcalf

953
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 9: is a you know, physical freak who definitely outsizes DJ

954
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 9: turning that reguard, But they may have the most trust

955
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 9: in Turner to stay with him and try to make

956
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 9: plays in the ball because he's doing that better than

957
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 9: anyone in the secondary right now.

958
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask, like, would you imagine he

959
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: would he would follow Dk Metcalf around. I know the

960
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: Bengals don't do that often, but if Calvin Austin is

961
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: out and that's their best weapon and maybe their best

962
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: performing corner, do you think they would do something like that.

963
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 6: I'm really interested to find out.

964
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 9: I think this is this would be such an opportunity

965
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 9: for Cam Tibert to earn back trust. I think back

966
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 9: to two years ago when he played DK Metcalf for

967
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 9: the Seahawks. That was one of his best games ever.

968
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 9: He really got into his head. He got the interception

969
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 9: and everything like that. Of course, you're gonna give up

970
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 9: big plays for metchhalf because he's playing like one of

971
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 9: the best receivers in the NFL and he's basically like

972
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 9: the entirety of that Pittsburgh passing game is running through

973
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 9: him right now. So you know they're gonna feature him

974
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 9: and involve him. So I think it comes down to

975
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 9: just more than just one guy for the Bengals. I

976
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 9: don't think you want to have DJ Turner following in

977
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 9: a round for six he plays a game. I think

978
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 9: this could be a situation where quarterbacks stay on their

979
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 9: sides and you just maybe try to bracket Metchalf a

980
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 9: little bit, get some help from the safeties. But yeah,

981
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 9: if it's gonna be DJ Turner against Metcalf all night, like,

982
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 9: there's gonna be some goball opportunities and Metcalf is gonna

983
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 9: try to use his size to win that matchup for sure.

984
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson was benched against the Packers in favor of

985
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter. He handed it really well. I don't know

986
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: that it entirely makes sense. What do you make of

987
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson's benching.

988
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 6: It's very interesting.

989
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 9: I think it would make more sense, like he said,

990
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 9: if the rookies were playing significantly better than him, and

991
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 9: I just don't think there's anyone really in that position

992
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 9: group that is standing out above the rest. I think

993
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 9: identifying and drafting two linebackers in the first four rounds

994
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 9: it definitely means more now than maybe what it did,

995
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 9: you know, back when the draft was happening, and you

996
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 9: think that Brek Carter is just going to be this

997
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 9: long term replacement for Logan Wilson. It's not like Logan

998
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 9: Wilson is playing significantly great. Obviously, he's playing less for

999
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 9: a reason. But I just don't I don't see why

1000
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 9: this makes sense other than the fact of just giving

1001
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 9: the young guys a lot more reps to prove themselves.

1002
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 9: Unless there's things in practice that we're not seeing. And

1003
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 9: there's a lot of flashes and a lot of promise

1004
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 9: from Breck Carter, you know, between Monday and Saturday, right

1005
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 9: and they want to give him chance to prove that

1006
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 9: on Sunday.

1007
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 6: But at the same time, you're paying a lot for

1008
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 6: Logan Wilson.

1009
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 9: I don't think he's that much different of a player

1010
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 9: than what you would have expected them to be. So

1011
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 9: it just seems like a really aggressive move by this

1012
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 9: coaching staff to really see what their return on investment

1013
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 9: for these rookies are. And if it works out, it

1014
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 9: works out great, then they have Bearck Carter for the

1015
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 9: next handful of years and then they cancide with what

1016
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 9: to do with Wilson. But if you're not seeing it

1017
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 9: from Carter yet in terms of just a consistent player,

1018
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 9: I'm not sure it makes entirely a lot of sense.

1019
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport reported this morning it's a long shot for

1020
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson to be able to play short week with

1021
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: the hip injury. If he doesn't, how can the Bengals

1022
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: dial up some pressures against Aaron Rodgers? What would be

1023
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 2: the plan for Al Golden do you think?

1024
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 9: Well, he said that Schmart Stewer is going to play

1025
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 9: a ton, and I think the more that you move

1026
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 9: him around and the more that you get him maybe

1027
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 9: almost in the two point stands to just use as

1028
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 9: much speed and explosion that you can. I think that's

1029
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 9: the best way to compensate for not having your true

1030
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 9: difference maker out there. I think Golden saying that about

1031
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 9: Stewart was kind of foreshadowing how he felt about Trey

1032
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 9: in this game and whether or not he plays or not,

1033
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 9: he may not be able to play the whole game

1034
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 9: even if he is active. Right, So, Miles Murphy's probably

1035
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 9: going to start Schmart. Stewart's probably gonna be that third edge.

1036
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 9: He's going to be not only lying up on the edge,

1037
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 9: but he's also going to be inside. They're gonna use

1038
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 9: him on all three downs because he's really good and

1039
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 9: really chaotic against the run.

1040
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be tough.

1041
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 9: You definitely need to do things differently because you just

1042
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 9: can't expect the past versus that you have to win

1043
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 9: every single one on one matchup when really only Trey

1044
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 9: Hendrickson could do that consistently.

1045
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: How good are the Steelers really like? Are they legit

1046
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: contender in the AFC? Are they a product of their schedule?

1047
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: How do you view the Steeler I think.

1048
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 9: The Steelers have some different faces every single year, but

1049
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 9: they always are pretty much the same team, and sometimes

1050
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 9: they start the season really slow and then they entered

1051
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 9: the playoff race in November December and they make it

1052
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 9: into nine and eight. Sometimes they started in this in

1053
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 9: this case form one and then they fall back down

1054
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 9: to nine eight, but they always end up around nine

1055
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 9: to eight.

1056
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 6: Ten and seven are always in the conversation.

1057
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 9: They're always physical, they don't make a lot of critical mistakes,

1058
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 9: and they typically have an offense that's just barely good

1059
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 9: enough to complement their defense, and I think that's pretty

1060
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 9: much been the case this year. I think Aaron Rodgers

1061
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 9: is about the quarterback that the Jets should have expected

1062
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 9: at thirty nine to forty years old at this point,

1063
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 9: and obviously he was a tremendous disaster for the Jets,

1064
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 9: but he clearly still has just enough to be a

1065
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 9: competent quarterback and run a competent offense. But you know

1066
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 9: that passing offense again is entirely run through DK Metcalf.

1067
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 9: They're really desperate for maybe a guy like George Pickens

1068
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 9: if they had him. They don't have a ton of

1069
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 9: great success with running the football right now, and that's

1070
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 9: a little bit different compared to years past.

1071
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 6: But I think They're just a solid team.

1072
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 9: They're obviously not I think, going to be finish with

1073
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 9: more than like ten or eleven wins necessarily, but definitely

1074
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 9: serious enough to make the playoffs and definitely win this

1075
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 9: game for sure.

1076
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: Let's say that the Steelers do win the game. Do

1077
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: you anticipate any dominoes falling for the Bengals afterwards, like

1078
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Speaker 2: a coach losing his job or a Trey Hendrickson potentially

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Speaker 2: getting traded. What dominos do you anticipate to fall if

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Speaker 2: the Bengals can't win tonight?

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Speaker 9: You know, the Bengals are never the sellers, right, They're

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00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 9: never the ones that want to just liquidate assets for

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00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 9: the sake of liquidation, for the sake of a last season.

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Speaker 9: I think the fact that they traded for a quarterback

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00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 9: not even two weeks ago it means that they still

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 9: feel like they can do something with the season. I'm

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Speaker 9: not sure if two and five in this AFC climate

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Speaker 9: is going to make them immediately feel that.

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Speaker 6: I think the only reason we're talking about is.

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Speaker 9: Because A, this is a divisional game against the divisional

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Speaker 9: leader in B because it's going to be a long

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Speaker 9: week of rest after the Thursday night game, so that's

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Speaker 9: naturally a time could make changes, But I don't think

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Speaker 9: you're going to see a coach firing after this game.

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Speaker 9: I think it's still a little bit too early in

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Speaker 9: the season for that. And the one thing I am

1097
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 9: curious though, is that if Logan Wilson is truly just

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Speaker 9: a ten snaps a game guy, how much injuries could

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Speaker 9: you get for him on the trade deadline, Because at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day, you're paying a lot of

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 9: money for guy who's not playing a lot. So that

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Speaker 9: could be an interesting domino based on how the next

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Speaker 9: two weeks ago. But I don't think anything significant is

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Speaker 9: going to happen from this game, specifically.

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Speaker 2: On the flip side of that, if they do win

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Speaker 2: and obviously perform the way they are expected to, at

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Speaker 2: least against the Jets and maybe the Bears, could you

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Speaker 2: see them dipping their toe into the trade waters again.

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00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: Could you see them be a little bit more aggressive

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Speaker 2: if they feel like there's a chance to get you know,

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: back in it in this conference with Burrow coming back

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Speaker 2: later on.

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Speaker 9: It has to be the right deal, right, It has

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Speaker 9: to be potentially like a player for player trade or

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00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 9: another pickswap like they've already sacrificed a little bit of

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00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 9: draft capital. A little bit draft capital for them is

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00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 9: a lot of draft capital for them, So that's always relative,

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Speaker 9: and it may depend on any other injuries that they

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Speaker 9: may suffer. I think they expect to get healthier as on. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: the Kaseki injury kind of ruins that a little bit.

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Speaker 9: But I think they have well, what they feel like

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00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 9: is quality depth at that position room and once Tanner

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Speaker 9: Hudson comes back, that's someone that they trust.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not really foreseeing them being buyers. Again.

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Speaker 9: I think Flacco is probably the biggest splash that you're

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Speaker 9: gonna get because they did feel the pressure in the

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 9: urgency to do something other than Jake Browning. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: the next handful of weeks are going to be very

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Speaker 9: interesting with that.

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Speaker 2: His name is John Shearon, covering the Bengals for eight

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Speaker 2: to z Sports and also the Orange and Black Insider podcast. John,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, man, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: That is John Shearon from eight to z Sports. Good stuff,

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Speaker 2: Good stuff there. He about to go get some white

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00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: Bengal gear going to the game tonight. You can do

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Speaker 2: gonna get Flacco shirt ahead of tonight's game. Get that

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00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: in white for the white Bengal night. All right, we'll

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Speaker 2: take a break, we'll come back talkbacks, Yes, talkbacks. I

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00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: asked for your prediction about what's going to happen tonight

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00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: at Pey Course Stadium. I can't wait to see what

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: all of you are predicting on talkbacks. That's next. This

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Speaker 2: It's a game day here in Cincinnati. I asked for

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Speaker 2: your scores, your predictions and more. Let's get to it

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Speaker 2: with talkback, starting with the first one of the day.

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Speaker 2: Came in at nine to twenty one. Am.

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Speaker 17: Hey, Austin ken from alex Here buck out to Kevin

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 17: from Northern Kentucky for my shout out yesterday. Yes, I

1157
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 17: was on Moe's show a couple of days ago, and

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01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 17: I mumbled and fumbled my way through my comments. But

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 17: moe By and the pro that he has bailed me out. Also,

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Speaker 17: I'd like to put in my recommendation as for Drew

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01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 17: as your producer. He's an articulate and a nice guy. Also,

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Speaker 17: hope they gave you a raise.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ken. I appreciate that. Yeah, I love Drew.

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Speaker 2: Still trying to figure out what exactly that's going to

1165
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: look like. Hopefully that's figured out by Monday, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And speaking of stumbling and bumblin, did

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Speaker 2: you hear me try to ask John Sheer in the

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Speaker 2: first question that was maybe the worst I've ever actually

1169
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: stuttered and stumbled on the radio. So that's good start.

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Speaker 5: Or to Austin, Jeff and you rich Man, what up?

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Speaker 17: Jets?

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Speaker 5: To Happy Who Day?

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Speaker 18: Game Day.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm gonna take the Bengals tonight. Let's go twenty

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01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 5: four to twenty one. I think Evan gets a field

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01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 5: goal at the gun and gives us the win.

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Speaker 2: I just have the.

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Speaker 5: Feeling tonight's gonna be different. Okay, so we'll see what happens.

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01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll be able to celebrate it all tomorrow. Have

1180
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 5: a great day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff, Yah. Victory Friday would be much needed,

1182
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: much needed for the Vibes.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Audi, I'm excited. I think the Bengals will do

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Speaker 6: well tonight. I'm gonna call it Bengals twenty four Steelers

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Speaker 6: twenty one.

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Speaker 2: That's two in a row. That's two in a row,

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one Bengals. That might be the

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01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: common theme.

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Speaker 23: Audie, what up?

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Speaker 6: Jacob here?

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Speaker 2: What's so Jake?

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Speaker 24: I'm thinking that the Bengals are gonna build off of

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01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 24: that second half in Green Bay from last week. We

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01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 24: need the offense to get in the rhythm, move the ball,

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Speaker 24: hopefully to night. Tamar Stewart's coming out party. Yes, I

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 24: don't think the Bengals win by big margin, but I

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Speaker 24: think they win.

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Speaker 6: Let's go get that dubbed who Day Baby, Let's go all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Shamar Stewart coming out party. I would sign up

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 25: Hey, Artie, Remember you asked what I think is gonna happen,

1202
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 25: not what I want? Yes, And what I think is

1203
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Speaker 25: gonna happen is Spangles may surprise people who I think

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Speaker 25: They're gonna come out, start fast. They might even jump

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Speaker 25: out to a ten or fourteen point lead, two scores

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Speaker 25: something like that. Okay, but regardless, at some point Zach

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Speaker 25: Taylor is gonna go painfully conservative now out of them

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01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 25: back into the game, and the Bengals are gonna lose

1209
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Speaker 25: a heartbreaker by two or three points.

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Speaker 4: Oh that, but proble true.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate honesty that it is important what you think

1212
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: is going to happen, not what you want to happen.

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Speaker 2: And I do appreciate that honesty.

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Speaker 12: What PARTI What do I want to see tonight in

1215
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Speaker 12: a forty something ball?

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Speaker 6: I want to see the office put up points.

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Speaker 2: In all four quarters.

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Speaker 6: I want to see the defisk you get off the

1219
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Speaker 6: field on third down. I'm gonna say, younes he go

1220
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Speaker 6: off tonight. I want to see yoh yo act Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I want to see this team get the dub.

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Speaker 23: Well, you need it.

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Speaker 6: I gotta free and they own a prescription.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one from Kevin. He said, we need it.

1225
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: You know, I was before the show today. I normally

1226
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: in the last ten or so minutes will go sit

1227
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Speaker 2: in the newsroom just to kind of clear my head

1228
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Speaker 2: and go banter with the folks in the newsroom, and

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Speaker 2: our buddy Nick Rick yu Chino was saying, we need this,

1230
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Speaker 2: like I need this, just mentally need a Bengals win today.

1231
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are in that boat.

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Speaker 26: Hey, Austin, George, some valley fired up from the game

1233
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Speaker 26: as something as well. I just wanted to you know,

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Speaker 26: uh such that Tony's gone, But in reality, I think

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Speaker 26: what they heard was the talent you have. I'm not

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Speaker 26: trying to blow your head up here, but I mean

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Speaker 26: that's what it is. Tony was on the radio with you,

1238
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Speaker 26: and that just wasn't a good place for him to be.

1239
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 26: You're abound to get your own show anyway.

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Speaker 6: Good luck to Tony.

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01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: We all love them whoa who day.

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Speaker 26: It would be a fun night tonight the Jungle Boys.

1243
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: Well, George, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

1244
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: I do appreciate that. Yea audiot's joan case here.

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Speaker 27: I just wanted to say, I hope you're able to

1246
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 27: take advantage of this opportunity, even though it's not under

1247
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 27: the circumstances you want, just like I'm hoping Osai and

1248
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Speaker 27: Shamar Stewart are able to take advantage tonight make the job.

1249
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Speaker 27: I really wish you had not gone over those rushing

1250
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 27: stats at the beginning of the game. Makes me feel

1251
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 27: like the Steelers are going to rush for two hundred

1252
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 27: yards tonight, just because that's what we do. And my

1253
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 27: heart won't let me pick anybody but the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, heart wants what it wants.

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Speaker 28: Yeah.

1256
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Speaker 29: I like the jury update Austin, their number two receiver,

1257
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 29: not playing their safety, probably not playing Hendrickson, probably not

1258
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Speaker 29: playing some good knowledge there.

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Speaker 20: I don't know.

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Speaker 29: I want the Bengals to win so so bad. I

1261
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 29: think that just might be a bad sign. But hopefully,

1262
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 29: hopefully we'll get to w.

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Speaker 2: When you go a month without winning, it's hard. Man like,

1264
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: time moves slower. Coffee doesn't taste as good. It's difficult.

1265
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Speaker 15: I turned off since he three sixty, I was feeling

1266
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 15: my half past dead. Yeah, I just need it sounds figs.

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Speaker 30: Ick to clean my head.

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 31: Hey, Oddie, can you tell me now the team he's

1269
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 31: gone to tompbacks Deill.

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Speaker 15: He just grinted and shook my hand and no was

1271
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Speaker 15: all he see him.

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Speaker 2: Beautifully.

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Speaker 17: Don Jack a load doll body.

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Speaker 31: He's earned the trust in you and me, Dick a

1275
01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 31: lot doll roll anmal Sancy three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Wow, thank you, Hey, Audie.

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Speaker 4: TJ. E.

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Speaker 2: Side was out.

1279
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Speaker 32: Last week during the Tony fallout, some guy named Drew

1280
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 32: didn't play my talkback or I compared you and Tony

1281
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 32: to the great.

1282
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: Dues of all time.

1283
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Speaker 32: Tony, You're gonna do great, Austin. When I first started listening,

1284
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 32: I thought some of your opinions were really sucks. But

1285
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 32: you all defended him with a stute, rational and good logic.

1286
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 32: I always appreciate that and respect it as a listener.

1287
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 32: Well done, keep up the good work. Go who Days.

1288
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 32: But if we lose to Night Zach and Tobin gotta go.

1289
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Speaker 2: Who Day, Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's

1290
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: if you're gonna have an opinion that you know it

1291
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: may not be that popular, or you know we'll ruffle

1292
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: some feathers, you gotta at least have a good reason why.

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01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: And I always tried to do that.

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 30: Shut up, man, Why.

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 26: This when we can color Roner.

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Speaker 30: Joeday Hodaydaydayday Wydaydayay show.

1297
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: Wow, you're on a heater today.

1298
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 33: It's the Lord?

1299
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: What up?

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 33: Happy Thursday? Talkback Nation is great? Hearing Eddie Z yesterday.

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01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 33: He's hilarious. He should be talkback President. Hey, Austin, is

1302
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 33: there any truth about the Bengals looking at Derek Carr

1303
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 33: as a quarterback option. Yes, Bengals twenty, Steelers sixteen.

1304
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that prediction. I like that. The

1305
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: list was revealed by Albert Breer in Sports Illustrated earlier today.

1306
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: He said that the full list that the Bengals reached

1307
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: out to are considered were Stetson Bennett, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins,

1308
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, Joe Flacco, Jimmy Garoppolo, Josh Johnson, Drew Locke,

1309
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 2: Tanner McKee, Davis Mills, Anthony Richardson, Russell Wilson, and Jameis Winston.

1310
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: They ended up landing on.

1311
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 22: Flacco still wrapping the city out here in Sonny hots

1312
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 22: On and what up, Hoddy?

1313
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: Y'all real talk.

1314
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 22: Not only are the Bengals under pressure, I'm under pressure,

1315
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 22: oh being he only since he fan at my job,

1316
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 22: got everybody in the world at my job asking me questions, tonight,

1317
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 22: are you ready for his nice game? Do you think

1318
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 22: the Bengals gonna win? Got a call from the boss

1319
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 22: Man to come to the office. He asked me questions

1320
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 22: about tonight's game. How you putting money on the Bengals tonight?

1321
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 22: I looked at him like he was fourteen karat crazy.

1322
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 22: But I ain't telling him that. Oh since he throwed

1323
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 22: that me down, I want to come to work tomorrow.

1324
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 22: Catstrutting on these clowns?

1325
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: You feel me? Who they? That is the tough part

1326
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: about wearing your team's hard on your sleeve. They're rotting round.

1327
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to piece of you.

1328
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 21: All right, Mike from LA You heard John Michael's impersonation

1329
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 21: of you?

1330
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 28: Oh no, let's hear your version of him.

1331
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 19: What's up, Austin Joe and Baltimore Joe. My prediction for

1332
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 19: tonight Cincinnati twenty eight Pittsburgh twenty four. Okay, Bike Placo

1333
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 19: leads a late fourth quarter touchdown drive to steal the game.

1334
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 19: Jamar's over one hundred yards receiving, and Chase.

1335
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 12: Brown has his best rushing game of the year.

1336
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: Just open, all right, bang, all right? I got you.

1337
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 28: This is a guaranteed prediction for tonight's game. At some

1338
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 28: point during the game, somewhere near midfield, the Steelers will

1339
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 28: do some type of misdirection trick play that will end

1340
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 28: up being wide open, and it'll either steal the game

1341
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 28: or it'll put them up by at least two scores.

1342
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 28: Who day, Pittsburgh does this every fricking time.

1343
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: That's a man that's been hurt and broken, right there.

1344
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 20: Austin gets from lovel Great job so far running the show.

1345
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 20: My predictions for tonight Steelers twenty seven, Bengals fourteen hikes

1346
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 20: and just a side note, little sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.

1347
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 20: I got Noah Offense plus one seventy four at five receptions. Okay,

1348
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 20: I think that's easy money.

1349
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: All right, there's a little lock of the night for you.

1350
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: Five or so over four and a half receptions for

1351
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: Noah Fense.

1352
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 18: Okay, did you guys see Wes Miller saying that the

1353
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 18: team's not ready to play today? Is he already setting

1354
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 18: U see fans up for a failure of a season?

1355
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh? Go, Muski's Well, it's a good thing you don't

1356
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: he's not ready to play today because they don't have

1357
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: to play today. So first of all, Second of all,

1358
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: my favorite thing about yesterday was that Xavier announced this

1359
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 2: new beer called the Musky Logger. If I have that correct,

1360
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: and the branding and everything is awesome. It's very similar

1361
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: to like Ryan Geist and the Sinsey Light thing and

1362
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: just doing the same thing it's for the all for

1363
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: one fun for Xavier, and just seeing UC fans get

1364
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: so mad about it was awesome. I love that rivalry

1365
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: so much. I love how petty each side is. Yeah,

1366
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: Xavier kind of rips off Cincinnati with the beer thing,

1367
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: and then Cincinnati fans are all mad about it. I

1368
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: just I love that rivalry so much. I cannot wait

1369
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: for December.

1370
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 9: Bengals win by three?

1371
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: Boy, all right, Bengals by three. I'm in favor of that.

1372
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 6: Hey, Audi, Mic and Independence.

1373
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: What am I prepping for?

1374
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 34: This seafood ball we got going too, starting at four

1375
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 34: o'clock today, everybody swing on by a lot one if

1376
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 34: you want to partake in the goods. We're going with

1377
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 34: twenty four to sixteen for the score today.

1378
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: Who day, that's a favorite the Bengals. Baby, all right,

1379
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: BEng seafood boil Mike with lot in lot one, going

1380
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 2: to Bengal victory.

1381
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 35: Hey Austin Paul from leaves here, I'll actually chime in

1382
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 35: and give you my two cents worth on the game tonight.

1383
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 35: I think the Bengals won twenty eight to ten or

1384
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 35: thirty one to ten.

1385
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 6: I don't think it's even going to be close.

1386
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 35: I think the biggest issue is gonna be turnovers for

1387
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 35: the Steelers.

1388
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna be able to handle the ball.

1389
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 35: And uh yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that the

1390
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 35: Bengals are gonna come out and uh they're gonna come

1391
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 35: right out and drive the field and score the.

1392
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 6: First hushed out.

1393
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 23: So whoday?

1394
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean the twenty eight to ten,

1395
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: thirty one to ten will blowout. Okay, let's do it.

1396
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 36: Yeah, I mean I think we got all of them.

1397
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 36: I think that with Flaco now feeling more comfortable and

1398
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 36: there's gonna be the unknown about our defensive line that

1399
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 36: Rogers isn't going to be able to anticipate. I mean,

1400
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 36: this could be a really, really good night for the Bengals.

1401
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 36: As for my prediction, I'm thinking it's probably gonna be

1402
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 36: forty two to twelve Steelers.

1403
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's the beautifully jaded Bengals fan game fan base

1404
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: hot take.

1405
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 23: As an in person fan, a white out is the

1406
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 23: worst spent eighty five dollars on a Bengals pullover and

1407
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 23: all day you risk the chance of spilling beer or

1408
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 23: skyline dip on yourself.

1409
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: And just looked like a slob. Yeah, but on TV

1410
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 2: it'll look great, you know. I hear you A pro

1411
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: move though, is you gotta go? You can't put it

1412
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: on until you get in your seat. Basically, you carry

1413
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: it with you, you keep it in the car whatever.

1414
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: Nobody cares if you're wearing white when you're tailgating. Once

1415
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: you get in your seat, though, like then it has

1416
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 2: it should be on. So I hear you, though, What

1417
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: up body, space monkeys? What's up? Space?

1418
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 6: A w tonight one?

1419
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: Another one?

1420
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 6: We get back on track when next week? Move on

1421
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 6: to four and four?

1422
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: Okay, seasons?

1423
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 23: Baby, let's go good.

1424
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm smelling what you're stepping in? What up Boston? Ryan

1425
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: Stewart two sacks? Oh baby's twenty three twenty one? Oh baby,

1426
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: all right, let's do it. I'm in favor of that.

1427
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 15: Potty.

1428
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 13: I think I think Flacco's gonna find his uh find

1429
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 13: his rhythm tonight. Okay, two weeks into the offense. Uh,

1430
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 13: he's got a little bit more time to work with

1431
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 13: all the boys, and I'm predicting a Bengals win thirty

1432
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 13: one twenty one.

1433
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: Okay, hood offensive explosion thirty one to twenty one.

1434
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 37: All right, Well, you're sitting down watching the Bengals game

1435
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 37: and Joe Burrow gets sacked. He's got the turf toe

1436
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 37: and he's gonna miss time since the nationists screaming fire

1437
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 37: zac o QB's of must backup is a bust time

1438
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 37: four Oh Joe Flaco.

1439
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 2: Beautifully done there by Mark Hey Austin.

1440
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 7: I wanted to get your thoughts on what your conversation

1441
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 7: was at the top of the hour with the Bengals

1442
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 7: not being able to do anything with their front office

1443
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 7: and compare to the Tennessee Titans and their rotating door

1444
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 7: and the Baltimore Ravens and how they always seem to

1445
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 7: do things right but seem to be in the same,

1446
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 7: if not worse situation than the Bengals.

1447
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFL is difficult and there's not really an

1448
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: exact science. I mean, the way the Chiefs have built

1449
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: their dynasty is not the same is the way that

1450
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: Eagles have kind of built over the last couple of years.

1451
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: And the Eagles in the middle of struggles and they've

1452
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 2: dealt with coordinators leaving and all this other stuff. And

1453
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: Baltimore has been the model of consistency for a long

1454
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: time and it's gotten them close but never over the hump,

1455
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: and even Cleveland has had the same people in place

1456
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: for a long time and they just kind of keep

1457
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: spinning their tires and going nowhere. And the Bengals have.

1458
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: They've changed a little bit here and there, and they've

1459
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: done a few things differently, but mostly it's still the

1460
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: same process. And the Bengals, for the most part, are

1461
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: always competitive. They're at least you know, in it, and

1462
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: I believe are a well run organization. It's just that

1463
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: there's no exact science to it. It's difficult. Like even

1464
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: if you look at San Francisco, I think John Lynch

1465
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: and Kyle Shanahan are a great example of like what

1466
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,440
Speaker 2: a quarter or what a coach and a GM relationship

1467
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: should be. And yet they just get ravaged by injuries

1468
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: every year and it's held them back. Even in a

1469
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 2: year like this year where they're supposed to be competitive,

1470
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: their injuries are killing them. I look at a team

1471
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: like Tampa where just Jason light I think is our gosh,

1472
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: what's the GM of the Bucks. I'm blanking on his

1473
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: name right now, but he has full autonomy and full

1474
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: control and again just feeds these players to develop into

1475
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: Todd Bowles. Like there's all these different ways to do it.

1476
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: Some teams are really good at it, some teams are not.

1477
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: There is no exact science, and you know it's it's

1478
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: easy to compare, but it's not really easy to execute.

1479
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: All right, that was our last talk back. We'll take

1480
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: a break. Phone calls are open five one three. Phone

1481
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: lines are open to five one three, seven, four nine,

1482
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We'll take a break. We'll come back. Get

1483
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: little football in the Nattie and more. This is ESPN

1484
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

1485
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 11: Oh in the Natty Drugs and hard by bod Light

1486
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 11: and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official

1487
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 11: home of the Bengals.

1488
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed it is football in the Natti, ESPN fifteen thirty.

1489
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm astin omore. Welcome back. Let's go to the phones

1490
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: quickly for another score prediction. If I'm not mistaken. This

1491
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,839
Speaker 2: is Northern Kentucky Orange cab who says he has a prediction.

1492
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: What do you got?

1493
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 4: Woll Black lives own for stillers and the head coaches

1494
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 4: may about the tree and the Bengals fifty nine The

1495
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 4: threwer seventeen parents for five hundred and eighty yards and

1496
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: seven touchdown.

1497
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh my, gosh, five eighty seven touchdowns, setting records and

1498
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: fifty nine points. All right, I'm down.

1499
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 4: Thank you. I will call you back tomorrow.

1500
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you then. Thank you very much. If

1501
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: that were to happen, Oh my goodness, I really do.

1502
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: I kind of want I want it to be a

1503
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: track meet, like I just want the old heads to

1504
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: just get after it and just start, you know, going

1505
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: back and forth, high scoring and see what happened. Got

1506
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: time for another phone call. I don't know who this

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Speaker 2: person is though, caller. If you can hear my voice,

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Speaker 2: you're on the air. What's your name, Robert? What's up?

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Speaker 35: Robert?

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Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about?

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01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 21: Hey Austin. Yeah, just a quick uh train of thought

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 21: on the on the hope, on the Bengals issues and

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01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 21: helped and your help and uh, you know, make it

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01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 21: some sense of it if you will. So my my

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01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 21: thought is, you know, I guess in today's NFL want

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01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 21: to be in such big business and everything, the uh

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01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 21: general managers and all are just becoming more and more

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01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 21: significant in the equation, uh, you know, for for some

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 21: of the reasons that you talked about on the regular basis.

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 21: But then coaches of course, you know the face of

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 21: the franchise to most of the rest of us. So anyway,

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 21: the thought is, you know, I didn't do the research.

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01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 21: Uh so hopefully you can help me with that too.

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 21: But like the three the three Super Bowls that we've

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 21: been to, Forrest, Greg, of course, Zach and.

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Speaker 2: Then who was again Sam Weish?

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01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 21: Yeah, Sam, Yeah, weren't they all within like their first

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 21: two or three years?

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01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 4: And is there anything to that?

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: That's all I got, Thanks for letting me all right, Yeah,

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01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: thank you Robert for the phone call. Don't I don't

1533
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 2: know if there's anything to that. I think the biggest

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01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: thing is that those two those coaches all had MVP

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01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 2: caliber quarterbacks Ken Anderson with Forrest Gregg, Boomera Sizen with

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: Sam Weish, and obviously Joe Burrow with Zach Taylor. But

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: you're right, it was Forrest Gregg's second year with the

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: Bengals that he went to the Super Bowl.

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01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 7: It was.

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01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's third year with the Bengals that he went

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl.

1542
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 4: And it was the.

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01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: Fourth season for Sam Weish that they went to the

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01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I don't know if there's something to that

1545
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: or not. Maybe that's something we'll look into. Yeah, I

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01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: don't know. It's good thought, it's fun thought. I want

1547
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: to finish up the football in the Natti segment with

1548
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: something I talked about earlier. There was this word coming

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: from Chris Collinsworth, the Bengals legend that Michael Jordan, the

1550
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: six time NBA champion, the goat, the greatest basketball that's

1551
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: ever played, basketball player that's ever played the game, was

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: a Cincinnati Bengals fan. And this was apparently told on

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 2: Ky Adams Show, and I've obtained the audio. Here is

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01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: Chris Collinsworth telling the story of Michael Jordans saying he's

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01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: a Bengals fan.

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01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 6: Yes, So I was sitting there.

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 4: He was great.

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01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 14: So we're at NBC and we just played his golf course.

1559
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 14: And so we're there and Michael was there, and all

1560
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 14: the brass from NBC is, you know, literally begging him

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01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 14: to try and come work for NBC. So I went

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01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 14: up and just sat down. Well, another one of my

1563
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 14: bosses came along. I won't say who, John, but he

1564
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 14: came by and he was like, Chris, we've got a

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01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 14: table for you down here. And I was like, oh, okay,

1566
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 14: you don't want me sit with my Okay, no problem.

1567
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 14: So I get up and I walk down to the table.

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01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 14: As soon as I walked away, apparently Michael said to

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01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 14: the group, you know, I grew up a Bengals fan

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01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 14: back in that era and we used to watch them

1571
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 14: all the time. So now my friend had to come

1572
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 14: back and say, hey, we really want you to come

1573
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 14: back here. With Michael's sale, I almost said, Nope, can't

1574
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 14: do it. Yeah means sorry, not made, can't do it.

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01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 2: A very Chris collins Worth like story. But how in

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01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: the hell did that happen? If I got the interview

1577
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, that would be the first question, Why on

1578
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: God's Green Earth did you grow up a Bengals fan?

1579
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: How did that happen? And how are we just now

1580
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: finding out about it? Lord knows, Michael was doing other

1581
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: things in the nineties, so he thankfully probably didn't have

1582
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: to watch some of those series or seasons that the

1583
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: Bengals were going through in the last decade. But I

1584
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: want to know everything about this because Jordan's at North

1585
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: Carolina when the Bengals go to the Super Bowl the

1586
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: first time. He's in Chicago when they go to the

1587
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: Super Bowl the second time. In the eighties, I mean, okay,

1588
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: I mean they were good in the seventies. They went

1589
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: to the playoffs a few times in the seventies when

1590
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Jordan would have been a kid. Okay, all right, Michael Jordan,

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01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: one of us. Let's go. This is since E thirty

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01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 2: sixty on esp at fifty to thirty.

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01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 11: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

1594
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 11: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati BENGALSKISE.

1595
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 1: Sincinnati sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1596
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Speaker 2: I can't get over this. Michael Jordan, the greatest there is,

1597
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: the greatest there was, the greatest there ever will be.

1598
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals fan, Mike Jordan, his airness, Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Wow,

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01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan should be the rule of the jungle next week, or,

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01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: as our guy Ryan points out on Twitter, Michael Jordan

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: should be the rule of the jungle against the Chicago

1602
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 2: Bears in two weeks. No excuses for this, Bengals. You

1603
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: gotta know somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody. You

1604
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: can get Mike Jordan the ruler of the jungle. And

1605
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: then if we could collaborate with Jordan brand to get

1606
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 2: some Bengals Jordan gear, I will be the first in line.

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01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: You can have my money. Whatever it is you can,

1608
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: you can have it. This is the coolest thing ever.

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm freaking out right now. This is me, by the way,

1610
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: this is who I am. I love Michael Jordan and

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01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: this sort of stuff. I am enamored with Michael Jordan

1612
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: being a Bengals fan.

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01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 7: I want.

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01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: I have so many questions. And that, by the way,

1615
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: is like, if there's one guy I would want to

1616
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: interview one person on planet Earth, it would be Michael Jordan.

1617
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: And I know that's that's not a hot take by

1618
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: any stretch of the imagination, but what a guy and

1619
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: a crazy life.

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: Anyways, can I update you a little bit on baseball

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01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: before we talked to Brooke Pryor here in a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes. Last night, it was the Blue Jays all

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: over the Seattle Mariners in Seattle, thirteen to four, the

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01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: final score for Toronto. They still trail the Mariners by

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01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: a game, two games to one in the ALCS. Both

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01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: series in action tonight, six oh eight. First pitch will

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01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: be Brewers and Dodgers. The Dodgers lead that series two

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01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: games to none, and then at eight thirty three it

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01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 2: is Blue Jays Mariners from Seattle. Obviously, nobody in Cincinnati's

1631
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: gonna be watching that because of the Bengals game. But

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,560
Speaker 2: I was reading about the series between the Brewers and

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01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and sho Hey Otani is in the midst

1634
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: of a slump right now. He took batting practice at

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01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium Tuesday for the first time since he became

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01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: a Dodger in twenty twenty two. How ridiculous is that

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: show's show? He's been there for three years. He never

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: took batting practice at Dodger Stadium until this NLCS. How

1639
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: is that possible? That's got to be a typo, right,

1640
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: But I read that from a source I trust. Since

1641
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: the Wild Card Round, show Hey is two for twenty

1642
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 2: five with twelve strikeouts. His RBI single in Game two

1643
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: of the NLCS snapped a fifteen at bat hitless streak.

1644
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: So sho Hey Otani actually is human and is struggling

1645
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: right now, and UH could hopefully get back on track

1646
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: coming up in this game against the Brewers. Other Major

1647
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: League Baseball news, Albert Poolholse's name continues to circulate as

1648
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: a potential manager across Major League Baseball. The Padres are

1649
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: looking for a manager. The Angels, where pool Hols used

1650
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: to play, have certainly expressed interest in that, and also

1651
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles expressing interest in Albert pool Hols, which

1652
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 2: I think is interesting, and I believe he is the

1653
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 2: manager of one of the World Baseball Classic teams. Blanking

1654
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: on which which country he's managing. It might be Puerto

1655
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 2: Rico or Venezuela, not entirely sure, but that's that. And

1656
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: then a shakeup to the Reds coaching staff. Jr. House,

1657
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: the Reds third base coach and catching coordinator, is leaving

1658
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: the Reds to join the Arizona Diamondbacks in the same role. Jr.

1659
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: House said that it just became too much going back

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01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: and forth to Arizona. He lives in Arizona, he used

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01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 2: to play for the Diamondbacks. His family is there, and

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01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 2: so it was opportunity for him to go home and

1663
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: to spend more time with his family. So because of that,

1664
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: he is leaving the Reds, and so the Reds will

1665
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: be in the market for a new catching coordinator and

1666
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: a new third base coach. With Jr. House heading out West.

1667
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back. When

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Speaker 2: we do, we'll talk to Brooke Pryor covering the Steelers

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01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: for ESPN. That's next right here on the Home of

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in our number three of Cincy three

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Speaker 2: to sixty on this game day, Thursday night football at

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01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: paid Corpse Stadium tonight in a division run coming to town,

1679
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals hosting the dreaded Pittsburgh Steelers. And to

1680
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: get the Steelers perspective on tonight's game, let's talk to

1681
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: the person covering the Steelers for ESPN. Friend of the show,

1682
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 2: been on many times, our friend, Brooke Pryor, joining us now, Brooke,

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01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: welcome back? How you doing?

1684
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: Are you?

1685
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 2: Do you get amped up on game day? Do reporters

1686
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: get amped up? I?

1687
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 38: Get amped up, and then I have to remind myself that,

1688
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 38: like the players, this is a long day, especially your

1689
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 38: primetime game. Like it's bizarre for me to sleep in

1690
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 38: until like nine am in the middle of the week,

1691
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 38: but I have to remind myself, Okay, no, this is

1692
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 38: this is a marathon and also kind of a sprint.

1693
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 38: So I've had one coffee today. I am positive I

1694
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 38: will have many more.

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: You and me both. I have to be on the

1696
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 2: air until two thirty this morning, so I certainly know

1697
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 2: the long, long game here. Okay, let's talk about the game.

1698
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 2: When you think of this game Bengals Steelers, the first

1699
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: matchup or the most important matchup on the field that

1700
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 2: comes to mind as what.

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01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 38: Ooh, that is a great question. I'm gonna go, oh man,

1702
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 38: because there are many important match ups. I kind of

1703
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 38: think it might be Mike Tomlin versus Joe Flacco. And

1704
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 38: I know that Mike Tomlin is not on the field,

1705
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 38: but this week, the way that Mike Tomlin kind of

1706
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 38: called out the Browns for trading Joe Flacco to me

1707
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 38: put some extra heat on this matchup. Mike Tomlin knows

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01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:34,719
Speaker 38: Joe Flacco very very well. He has faced him twenty

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01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 38: two times in the regular season and is eleven and

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01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 38: eleven against him. I believe Joe Flacco ten and eleven

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01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 38: when he's been a starter. The last time they faced

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01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 38: them was in Indy when he came in for an

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01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 38: injured Anthony Richardson, and Mike Tomlin and deeven sub coordinator

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01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 38: Tarrell Austin both said this week that when they were

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01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 38: preparing for that Indianapolis game that they did not want

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01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 38: to see Joe Flacco. They were so clear about that,

1717
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 38: and he came in and we saw why they did

1718
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 38: not want to see him through two touchdowns, almost two

1719
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 38: hundred pass in the yards, just a really calm, veteran presence,

1720
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 38: still has a big arm despite being forty years old.

1721
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 38: So I think that's that's what I'm going to be watching.

1722
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 38: I guess the better you distillation of that is the

1723
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 38: Steelers defense against Joe Flacco. But Mike Tomlin is the

1724
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 38: architect of the defense, so I think it comes down

1725
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 38: to Mike Tomlin versus Joe Flacco in this one.

1726
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 2: I was glad that Tomlin said what he said Number one,

1727
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: because I felt like the game could use a little

1728
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: bit of juice. And number two, I think the division

1729
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 2: in and of itself needs a little bit of juice.

1730
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: What have you learned? Like, where did that come from?

1731
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 2: Was it strictly I don't want to face Joe Flacco.

1732
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Was it a shot at the Browns? Is there something

1733
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: there because it kind of seemed out of left field.

1734
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 38: Yeah. I do think it's a little bit of both.

1735
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 38: I think that there is some frustration with how the

1736
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 38: Browns are doing business that they helped out an inter

1737
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 38: division team at the most crucial position. I think that

1738
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 38: it also is just a reflection of how he views

1739
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 38: football and how he views you know, gms and things

1740
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 38: like that. Like he's not a map guy. So where

1741
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 38: Interberry sees that he got an advantage in the pickswap

1742
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 38: and was able to get something in return for Joe Flacco,

1743
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 38: Mike Tomlin looks at that and thinks, Okay, but you're

1744
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 38: hurting yourself this year and you were helping another team

1745
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 38: in this division this year. Mike Tomlin is not a

1746
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 38: plan for the future type of head coach. He is

1747
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 38: worried about the here and now. I mean he said

1748
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 38: it himself a couple of weeks ago. He's not a

1749
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 38: big picture guy. So I think that's just a difference

1750
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 38: in philosophies, and I think there's something to be said

1751
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 38: for if you look at how Jake Browning was playing,

1752
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,839
Speaker 38: he would probably rather fake Jake Browning than Joe Flacco

1753
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 38: for the trilliance time. So I think that now he

1754
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 38: sees a veteran quarterback who is pretty good at getting

1755
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 38: Jamar Chase and t Higgins the ball last week in

1756
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 38: his first start, So I think it's.

1757
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 10: A little bit of both.

1758
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard to see why the Bengals didn't

1759
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: want Jake Browning playing anymore and why anybody else would have.

1760
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to that matchup. Though. The Steelers defense they've

1761
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 2: been fine. I don't know that anyone would say they've

1762
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: been great. What's your assessment of the defense for Pittsburgh

1763
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: to this point and how do you expect them to

1764
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 2: attack Joe Flacco tonight?

1765
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 38: You know, I do think that they've been a lot

1766
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 38: better in the last two weeks, last three weeks, kind

1767
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 38: of starting with that Patriots game where they forcibly five turnovers.

1768
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 38: They didn't necessarily completely limit Drake Maye, but that was

1769
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 38: kind of the starting point for this defense at the

1770
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 38: turning point, and then last week against the Browns is

1771
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 38: actually the first time all season that all of their

1772
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 38: starters have been healthy and playing, or at least healthy

1773
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 38: enough to play. And I think that that's where you saw,

1774
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 38: you know, Jalen Ramsey coming in on the blitz and

1775
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 38: having those two stacks, the pass rush looks better. The

1776
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 38: secondary as a whole was really well, was playing really well.

1777
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 38: I think that that was just the defense playing in

1778
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 38: concert with each other, and that's what they've been looking

1779
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 38: for all season and that is what they did not

1780
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 38: have in the first two weeks of the season, where

1781
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 38: it really looks like the stefense could be a train wreck.

1782
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 38: But I think that is a combination of health and

1783
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 38: also comfortability and health at the most important position, specifically

1784
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 38: looking at Deshaun Elliott coming back and playing, because he's

1785
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 38: a huge communicator in the secondary and plays with a

1786
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 38: fearlessness and a recklessness that is so good for the Steelers.

1787
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 38: Maybe not great long term for his body or the

1788
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 38: opposing team, but he's he's great in coverage, he's great

1789
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 38: as a run stopper, great tackler. But he is a

1790
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 38: little bit of a question mark for this game because

1791
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 38: he has looked as questionable for personal reasons. I understand

1792
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 38: there's a family situation going on, and he did not

1793
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 38: travel with the team yesterday, so that is a really

1794
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 38: important position to keep an eye on. But I think

1795
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 38: the Steelers plan is going to be to try to

1796
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 38: make Joe Flacco as uncomfortable as possible.

1797
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 4: I think that you know, look for for TJ. Watt

1798
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,440
Speaker 4: and Nick Herbig.

1799
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 38: And Alex Tismith, looks for that free linebacker package. They

1800
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 38: really liked deploying that last week when Alex Heismith was

1801
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 38: finally healthy. But I think the key here is going

1802
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 38: to be to really try to overwhelm Joe Flacco early

1803
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,919
Speaker 38: and get his drill and make some of those passes

1804
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 38: a little bit more impossible because they're not giving him

1805
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 38: much time to throw and lets those plays develop.

1806
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: Talking to Brooke Pryor, covering the Pittsburgh Steelers for ESPN

1807
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 2: ahead of tonight's game, let's go from one forty year

1808
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 2: old quarterback to another. How would you assess the play

1809
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers to this point for the Steelers offense?

1810
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 38: You know, it's kind of similar to the defense, although

1811
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 38: I don't think that he started off at quite a

1812
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 38: bad spot.

1813
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 10: Is the defense early on.

1814
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 38: But I do think that the Aaron Rodgers is coming

1815
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 38: around and playing better. I think that last week against

1816
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 38: the Browns was the best game that he's played this

1817
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 38: season and in a while, and he said himself that

1818
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 38: he felt better, he felt more mobile. A lot of

1819
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 38: that he gave credit to working with his bodywork guru

1820
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 38: over the bye week and you know, staying lose and

1821
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 38: things like that. And you could see that again in

1822
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 38: the brown game. He was on the move a little

1823
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 38: bit more. He was making some of those signature Aaron

1824
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,799
Speaker 38: Rodgers throws back across his body. I mean the touchdown

1825
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 38: to Connor Hayward is a big one that I think

1826
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 38: about on the scramble drill that he just wasn't doing

1827
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 38: things like that early in the season. But I think

1828
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 38: that you're seeing a conquerability with him in this offense,

1829
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 38: and I think that, you know, his body so far

1830
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,919
Speaker 38: is holding up pretty well. I also think the emergence

1831
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 38: of Darnell Washington and how they are using him both

1832
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 38: as an extra blocker and then also as this just

1833
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 38: mismatch receiving threat has been really big for Aaron Rodgers

1834
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 38: and for this offense. I think that the Darnell washington

1835
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 38: emergence is one of the most fun things to see

1836
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 38: in this offense because he just doesn't make sense.

1837
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 4: He is a unicorn of a player. I mean, I

1838
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 4: think it was.

1839
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 38: Arthur Smith said this week that when he's watching film,

1840
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 38: he thinks that Darnell Washington is bigger than Troy Faton

1841
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 38: and Roder Jones. They're two tackles, and yet he can

1842
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 38: get out.

1843
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 4: In space and catch the ball and make things happen

1844
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 4: on the run.

1845
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 10: And it just it doesn't.

1846
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 38: You just can't comprehend how physics make that work. And

1847
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 38: yet he, I think has been a really a really

1848
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 38: good thing for this offense and Aaron Rodgers. So I

1849
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 38: think that that the offense is a sending at this

1850
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 38: point when it.

1851
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 2: Comes to running the ball. Pittsburgh twenty ninths in the

1852
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 2: NFL and rush yards per game. Why hasn't that worked?

1853
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 7: You know?

1854
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 38: I think a lot of it is the offensive line.

1855
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 38: The guard play has been a little subpar. Isaac Samalo,

1856
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 38: the veteran, just has not really done a great job

1857
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 38: this season. He's been pretty mediocre. I do think that

1858
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 38: the last two weeks, again, there's been an uptick in

1859
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 38: their production. Can it gage well? Against the Vikings in

1860
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 38: Ireland and then Jalen Warren coming back last week. I

1861
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 38: think that they're starting to move out in space, and

1862
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 38: a big key to that is not only adding Darnell

1863
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 38: Washington as an extra blocker, but also guard Spencer Anderson

1864
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 38: adding him as an extra alignment. So they're they're going

1865
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 38: into these like jumbo and super jumbo packages and really

1866
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 38: opening things up. But I think early on they just

1867
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 38: weren't getting enough space, weren't getting enough push. But I

1868
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 38: think that they're also starting.

1869
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 4: To get there.

1870
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Calvin Austin not going to be able to play tonight,

1871
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 2: how is that going to change the Steelers offensive plan

1872
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 2: without him on the field.

1873
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 38: Yeah, I mean I think that he takes away a

1874
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 38: deep threat option.

1875
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,799
Speaker 10: He's just he's been really good, you know, as.

1876
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 38: A guy that has a lot of speed on the outside.

1877
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 38: He's built like a slot receiver, but he plays all

1878
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 38: over the field and I think that he does. When

1879
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 38: you don't have him, you do lose one of those

1880
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,839
Speaker 38: deep threats. But I would kind of look to Scottie

1881
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 38: Miller to replace some of that, at least a snap count,

1882
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 38: not necessarily the production.

1883
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 4: You also lose a.

1884
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 38: Guy that it sounds again like a mismatch and is

1885
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 38: it doesn't make any sense on paper, but he's been

1886
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 38: really good at downfield blocking. He was one of the

1887
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 38: reasons that DK Metcalf was able to score that eighty

1888
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 38: one yard catch and run touchdown in Ireland. Calvinopson was

1889
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 38: down there out in front of him blocking his past

1890
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 38: to the end zone and kind of threw that last

1891
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 38: crucial block to get him across the goal line, which

1892
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 38: again is crazy because Calvin Nottson is so much smaller

1893
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 38: than DK.

1894
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 4: Metcalf, But it just works.

1895
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: So that's what you lose, and you don't have him

1896
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 2: on the field wrapping things up here with Brooke Pryor

1897
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 2: covering the Steelers for ESPN. Do fans in Pittsburgh get

1898
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 2: the vibe that this is supposed to be an easy

1899
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: win for the Steelers tonight? Is there a lot of

1900
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 2: confidence going into this game?

1901
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 21: You know?

1902
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 38: I think there would be if Mike Tomlin wasn't zero

1903
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 38: to six in Thursday night divisional games on the road.

1904
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 38: I think that that kind of gives Steelers fans some pause,

1905
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 38: and they have watched a lot of inexplicable Thursday night losses,

1906
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 38: whether at home or on the road. Mike Tomlin is

1907
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 38: not great on a short week, especially on the road.

1908
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 38: So I think that, you know, again, on paper, the

1909
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 38: Steelers should be an overwhelming favorite, but weirder things that happened.

1910
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 38: I don't think this is going to be a blowout.

1911
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 38: Although I am generally pretty pessimistic about the Steelers until

1912
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,879
Speaker 38: I see it. I'm very much a see to believe

1913
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 38: kind of person, even when you know, all signs kind

1914
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 38: of point to this should be a big It should

1915
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,440
Speaker 38: be a pretty significant win because they have so many advantages,

1916
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 38: but there's just some intangibles that I don't know. Again,

1917
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 38: the Thursday night, I think Deshaun Elliott, yeah, status being

1918
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 38: somewhat in question.

1919
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 10: And also even though Jalen Rams.

1920
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 38: Did play incredibly well on Sunday coming off that hamstring injury,

1921
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 38: he really pushed to return, he's now having to turn

1922
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 38: that around on a short week. He's an older player.

1923
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 38: I think that he's going He's going to play, but

1924
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 38: I'm interested to see how his hamstring has responded on

1925
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 38: just a couple of days rest.

1926
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point and certainly something to keep

1927
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 2: an eye out for. Brook. Thank you so much for

1928
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 2: your time today. No it's a busy day for you.

1929
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 2: Where can people follow along with your coverage going into

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Speaker 2: Thursday Night football tonight?

1931
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Speaker 38: It will be on Twitter or x at Vee Pryor

1932
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Speaker 38: also on ESPN dot com. And I've got a story

1933
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Speaker 38: up right now about John new Smith, one of the

1934
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 38: Steelers tight ends, and his brother who will be getting

1935
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Speaker 38: to watch him on Thursday Night football on the local

1936
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 38: broadcast in Pittsburgh from the prison where he's incarcerated forty

1937
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 38: five miles outside of Pittsburgh, and about how John hu

1938
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 38: has worked to get his brothers sat introduced. He's now

1939
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 38: being released next year and just last week John who

1940
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 38: took a group of Steelers to the prison to do

1941
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Speaker 38: some prison outreach. So it's a pretty cool story. So

1942
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Speaker 38: definitely check that out.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. Thanks so much, Brooke, really appreciate.

1944
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Speaker 38: It absolutely Thanks for having me.

1945
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Speaker 2: That is Brooke Pryor from ESPN covering the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1946
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Speaker 2: So I'll have to check out that story about the

1947
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 2: John new Smith. I didn't know about that, but yeah,

1948
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 2: I thought that point that she made at the very

1949
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 2: end is interesting. I had heard a little bit of

1950
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 2: conversation about this at the beginning of the week but

1951
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 2: didn't really hear much about it otherwise, and that was

1952
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 2: that the hamstring injury that Jalen Ramsey was dealing with

1953
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: didn't get as tested as much against Cleveland because of

1954
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 2: the way that they won was on a bit of

1955
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 2: a pitch count. And then you turn it right back

1956
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: around for a short week game in Cincinnati, and there's

1957
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 2: a history between the Bengals wide receivers in Jalen Ramsey.

1958
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 2: You may remember Super Bowl fifty six. Moe and I

1959
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: talked about it yesterday. T Higgins and Jalen Ramsey going

1960
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: at it, Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey going at it.

1961
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 2: And part of the reason why the Steelers are built

1962
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 2: the way that they are built is to defend T

1963
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Higgins and Jamar Chase, whether that's with Joe Burrow or

1964
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 2: without Joe Burrow. So to me, yes, the matchup of

1965
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 2: Tomlin versus Flacco, like brook outline, Yes, really important, really interesting,

1966
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 2: especially considering Tomlin's history on Thursday nights. But also the

1967
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 2: only life that the Bengals had Sunday was when Joe

1968
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 2: Flacco said, fitt Jamar down there somewhere, or I'm throwing

1969
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 2: this ball to T Higgins and see what happens. That is,

1970
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: in a way the lifeblood of the offense. Without Joe

1971
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Burrow there and with no run game whatsoever, that matchup

1972
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 2: is really interesting, especially if for whatever reason Ramsey would

1973
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: have to leave the game, or if Ramsey is on

1974
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 2: a pitch count. Can the Bengals identify that and take

1975
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: advantage of whatever weakness? And the other part there, Deshaun Elliott,

1976
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 2: is he gonna play? Not traveling with the team yesterday,

1977
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything later any news lately about what

1978
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 2: might happen with him. That would be a huge loss

1979
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 2: for them, And all of a sudden you feel better

1980
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 2: about if nothing else, the Bengals at least being able

1981
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: to keep up with the Pittsburgh Steelers on offense, and

1982
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,560
Speaker 2: especially if Trey Hendrickson's not going to be able to go.

1983
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 2: Can you keep putting points on the board. Can you

1984
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: score a little bit? Can you put the pressure back

1985
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 2: on that Steelers offense and allow your crowd to get

1986
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 2: into the game, allow that to have an effect on

1987
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 2: third downs and in communication, all of that. These are

1988
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 2: the things that the Bengals got to be eye in

1989
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: to use everything you possibly can to your advantage. For

1990
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 2: tonight's game. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come

1991
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 2: back outur three of Sincy three to sixty. Roll it

1992
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: right along on this game day, our three. Brought to

1993
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 2: you by Penn Station on the Home of the Bengals,

1994
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Now your chance to win up.

1995
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Speaker 11: This is Football in the NATI, brought to you in

1996
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Speaker 11: part by Postman Law and by Skyline Chilly on ESPN

1997
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Speaker 11: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1998
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,839
Speaker 2: Well, we have some not so good news to report.

1999
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 2: You heard at the top of the show at twelve

2000
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 2: o'clock Ian Rappaport reporting that Trey Henderson would be a

2001
01:44:56,280 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 2: long shot to be able to play tonight. Well, Jeremy

2002
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: Fowler of ESPN has confirmed it. He is reporting Trey

2003
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 2: Hendrickson will not be able to play tonight. He wanted to,

2004
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 2: He tried, but too tough on the short turnaround. Hopeful

2005
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 2: for next week. So the Bengals will be without They're

2006
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 2: all pro defensive end Trey Hendrickson. Not that much of

2007
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 2: a surprise, but we're hoping we'd at least have a

2008
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: chance or see how he would feel in pregame warmups.

2009
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 2: But the Bengals are gonna be without Trey tonight. On

2010
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 2: the flip side, just talking to Brooke Pryor about the

2011
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 2: Shawn Elliott. While that was happening, Deshaun Elliott arrived in

2012
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the Steelers announced that he will play tonight.

2013
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 2: He will not have a designation going into tonight's game,

2014
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: So the Bengals lose their best defensive player, the Steelers

2015
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 2: gain one of their best defensive players ahead of tonight's

2016
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 2: kickoff at pay Court Stadium. That obviously stinks, and you know,

2017
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate. Trey, to my knowledge, I believe, had started

2018
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 2: forty two consecutive games, or at least played in forty

2019
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 2: two consecutive games, and had become a durable and obviously

2020
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: extremely productive piece of the Bengals defense. And when he's

2021
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 2: not in the game, it's ugly. You saw it in

2022
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 2: the second half against Green Bay. Joseph Osai couldn't show up.

2023
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: Camp Sample couldn't show up, Miles Murphy couldn't show up.

2024
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 2: Those guys just don't get anywhere near the same amount

2025
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 2: of pressure or disruption in the offensive line that we

2026
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 2: are used to seeing and have become accustomed to seeing.

2027
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 2: With Trey and so without him, it's a really it's

2028
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 2: even more of an uphill battle.

2029
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 4: Now.

2030
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's offense is not, you know, the greatest offense of

2031
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 2: all time. It's not the greatest show on turf. But

2032
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 2: they're good, and they're good after the catch, and they've

2033
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 2: got an all Pro Hall of Fame quarterback leading them

2034
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 2: who's starting to get a little bit more comfortable in

2035
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 2: the offense as things go along. And I would expect

2036
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 2: that Pittsburgh looks at this week and says, Okay, this

2037
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 2: is a week for us to get our run game going.

2038
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 2: We'll try to control the clock. We'll take some deep

2039
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: shots down the field because we feel like we can

2040
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 2: expose those defensive backs and safeties of the Bengals. And

2041
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 2: also we're missing a wide receiver. There's a lot of

2042
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 2: different ways that the Steelers can go. They also love

2043
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 2: to deploy multiple tight ends more than just about anybody

2044
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: in the NFL. That's an Arthur Smith staple. I would

2045
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 2: expect them to go a lot of tight end sets

2046
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 2: and especially attack the edge that Trey Henderson is no

2047
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 2: longer going to be. They're not, like Trey is an

2048
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 2: elite run defender to begin with but they're going to

2049
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 2: be running away or either right at Shamar Stewart into

2050
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: the teeth of that Bengals defense to try to get

2051
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 2: their run game going. And on the backside, it makes

2052
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco's job a lot more difficult when Deshaun Elliott

2053
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 2: is on the field, makes things more difficult for Tea

2054
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 2: and Jamar as well. So so far as we reach

2055
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 2: the just under six hours until kickoff mark, things not

2056
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 2: going well for the Bengals with the injury front Trey

2057
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 2: Hendrickson not playing tonight. According to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN,

2058
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 2: normally on Thursdays, back when we still had Tony, we

2059
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 2: would do read and React, where I would try my

2060
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 2: best to get our insights from our friends at NFL

2061
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 2: Pro and the good folks at Next Gen Stats and

2062
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: use some of those insights to kind of paint the

2063
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 2: picture of the game tonight. So I want to read

2064
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 2: a couple of those for you, and we'll get to

2065
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 2: a Flacco and Rogers comparison. But I haven't said the

2066
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 2: name TJ. Watt at all today, which is a little

2067
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 2: bit surprising because the conversation with the Steelers used to

2068
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 2: start with TJ. Watt and he is still productive and

2069
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 2: still a beast, but you just haven't heard his name

2070
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 2: as much. And this is from next Gen stats. TJ

2071
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:03,799
Speaker 2: Watt has faced a league high sixty eight chip blocks

2072
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 2: on one hundred and sixty two pass rushes this season,

2073
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 2: so forty two percent of his pass rushes he's been chipped.

2074
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 2: That's eighteen more chips than the next closest defender. Despite

2075
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 2: the added attention, he's recorded eight pressures, most in the

2076
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 2: NFL and two sacks, tied for the most when he's

2077
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 2: chip blocked. That dude is a beast. What has seen

2078
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 2: his chiplock chip block rate climb every year of his

2079
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 2: career from just nine and a half percent and twenty

2080
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty eight point two percent last year, and

2081
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, he's encountered six hundred and fifteen chip blocks.

2082
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 2: He's the only defender with more than five hundred over

2083
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 2: that span. Meanwhile, the Bengals have chipped opposing pass rushers

2084
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: eighty four times this season, the eighth most in the NFL.

2085
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: I would expect to see samajp Ryan throwing some chip

2086
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: blocks at TJ Watt this season or tonight. Another note

2087
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 2: on the Bengals offense despite facing just six point one

2088
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: defenders in the box per play, which is the second

2089
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: lowest or second fewest, and a light box sixty nine

2090
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 2: percent of downs, the Bengals have rushed for only zero

2091
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:29,879
Speaker 2: point three yards before contact per carry, that's the second fewest,

2092
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 2: and have had their running back hit before reaching the

2093
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage on forty eight point one percent of

2094
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 2: their carries. That's the third highest in the NFL. That's

2095
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: amazing like that, that's hard to fathom that you are

2096
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 2: that bad and you face a light box on sixty

2097
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 2: nine percent of the downs that you have the football.

2098
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that is unbelievable. Looking ahead to this, try

2099
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: to get after Aaron Rodgers scenario that the Bengals now

2100
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 2: faced without Trey Hendrickson. Aaron Rodgers has averaged a time

2101
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 2: to throw of two point five to seven seconds this season.

2102
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,879
Speaker 2: That's the second quickest in the NFL and the quickest

2103
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: in a season since at least two point since at

2104
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 2: least twenty sixteen. So Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball

2105
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: out of his hands quickly. His quick throw. His quick

2106
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 2: time to throw has led him to being pressured on

2107
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,440
Speaker 2: just twenty eight and a half percent of his dropbacks

2108
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,799
Speaker 2: this season, which is the fifth lowest in the NFL.

2109
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: On passes under two and a half seconds, Rodgers has

2110
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: completed eighty one percent of his attempts, that's the sixth

2111
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: highest in the league, and averaged eight point two yards

2112
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 2: per attempt, second most. Meanwhile, the Bengals defense has allowed

2113
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 2: a league high seven point seven yards per attempt on

2114
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 2: quick passes this season, including eight touchdowns, which is the

2115
01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 2: second most. All of this, if it's going the Bengals direction.

2116
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 2: None of it, None of it is going the Bengals direction.

2117
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 2: Take a break, We'll come back. Let's talk a little

2118
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,879
Speaker 2: bit about the Unk Bowl, the Icy Hot Bowl, Joe Flacco,

2119
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers tonight at pay Corp Stadium. Our three brought

2120
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Speaker 2: to you by Penn Station on the Home of the Bengals,

2121
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2122
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 11: You've been listening to football in the NATI. Brought to

2123
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 11: you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon on

2124
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 11: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2125
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Speaker 2: Hey It's small Wagon, fifteen thirty. Welcome back since e

2126
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:49,560
Speaker 2: three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty I'm Austin Elmore. In

2127
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 2: case you missed the news, Trey Hendrickson, according to Jeremy Fowler,

2128
01:52:54,560 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 2: not playing tonight against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Meanwhile, Deshaun Elliott,

2129
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 2: the Steeler safety who had missed practice and travel yesterday

2130
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 2: due to a family issue, has arrived in Cincinnati and

2131
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 2: will play tonight against the Bengals. On the back end

2132
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:16,560
Speaker 2: of that Pittsburgh secondary the storyline tonight, though, is the

2133
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 2: fact that you've got two forty something year old quarterbacks,

2134
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco going at it. Flacco has

2135
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 2: thrown a touchdown pass to sixty seven different receivers, that

2136
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: is the fifth most in NFL history. Rogers has thrown

2137
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown pass to sixty different receivers, the tenth most

2138
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: in NFL history. Now, despite the fact that these two

2139
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 2: have been in the league together for a long time,

2140
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 2: they've only faced each other three times, and in those

2141
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 2: three games their total statistics are not very good. It's

2142
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:58,919
Speaker 2: kind of surreal. So Rogers in three games against Flacco

2143
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 2: led teams is sixty for one oh one, that's just

2144
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 2: fifty nine percent completion percentage and thrown five touchdowns in

2145
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: three interceptions, while Joe Flacco against Aaron Rodgers led teams

2146
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 2: is fifty five for ninety nine. That's fifty five percent

2147
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: of his passes, three touchdowns, and four interceptions. That's kind

2148
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 2: of weird, right, two guys that were pretty good quarterbacks. Obviously,

2149
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Aaron's a Hall of Famer for as long as they

2150
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 2: have played. Not playing well when they play each other,

2151
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 2: that's kind of surreal. Check out the career comparison. Rogers

2152
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 2: has played in two hundred and fifty three games and

2153
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 2: has sixty three thousand, nine hundred and seventy three passing yards,

2154
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: five hundred and thirteen touchdown passes, and one hundred and

2155
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 2: nineteen interceptions. Flacco has played in two hundred and one

2156
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 2: games with forty six thousand, seven hundred and thirty one

2157
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 2: passing yards, two hundred and sixty one touchdowns, one hundred

2158
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 2: sixty eight interceptions. All together, they have combined for four

2159
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four NFL games and over one hundred

2160
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 2: and ten thousand passing yards, seven hundred and seventy four touchdowns,

2161
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: and two hundred and eighty seven interceptions. That's like sixty

2162
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 2: miles worth of passing yards. That's unbelievable. Uh, And it

2163
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 2: is kind of cool that those two guys are going

2164
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: at it tonight against each other on Thursday Night. Football

2165
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 2: kind of talked earlier about the Steelers' schedule, and I'm

2166
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 2: not entirely sure, you know, are the Steelers that good? Like, yeah,

2167
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 2: they're good enough to win this game, but when you

2168
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 2: look at their schedule, I think it's fair to be

2169
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: a little bit confused, a little bit cautious in terms

2170
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 2: of jumping all over them. They won Week one in

2171
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 2: a shootout against the Jets thirty four to five thirty two,

2172
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 2: which no defense was played at all, and you could

2173
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: make the argument that the Jets should have won that game.

2174
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 2: And then in Week two and the best team that

2175
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 2: they faced, Seattle, came into Pittsburgh and whooped them thirty

2176
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 2: to one to seventeen. That's their only loss. They then

2177
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 2: played New England at New England and forced five turnovers

2178
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 2: of Drake May. Some of them were some real brain

2179
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 2: dead operational stuff by Drake May. But they turned the

2180
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: ball over five times, did the Patriots. And still even

2181
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 2: though they turned the ball over five times, the Patriots

2182
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 2: only lost to the Steelers by seven points. So that's

2183
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 2: a little bit strange. Then they go to Dublin to

2184
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 2: play Minnesota in the International Series game in Ireland, and

2185
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin did everything in his power to lose that game.

2186
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 2: They allowed Minnesota to hang in there and hang in

2187
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 2: there and hang in there with Carson Wentz by the way,

2188
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 2: and they won that game Pittsburgh twenty four to twenty one,

2189
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 2: a very thin margin of error there. And then last

2190
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 2: week against Cleveland in Pittsburgh, they beat them twenty three

2191
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 2: to nine in a game where Pittsburgh I think was

2192
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 2: just a better team and DK Metcalf had another good

2193
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 2: game in that one. So I'd look at that and

2194
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, how many really good teams have the

2195
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Steelers played. I think Seattle's a good team. I think

2196
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 2: New England's a good team. I don't know that either

2197
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: one of those two teams are really good. I also

2198
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't say the Bengals are really good. I just I

2199
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 2: don't know anybody that would say that. But I might

2200
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,600
Speaker 2: look at the Steelers four in one record and say, Okay,

2201
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 2: maybe that's a little bit misleading, maybe that's not entirely

2202
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 2: who they are. And you talk about this being a

2203
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 2: gateway game, or a pivotal, pivotal game for the Bengals.

2204
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 2: It's also a big game for Pittsburgh because after they

2205
01:57:55,800 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: play Cincinnati, they're home against Green Bay, home against Indianapolis,

2206
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 2: at the Chargers, home against the Bengals, at the Bears,

2207
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 2: home against the Bills. That's a tough stretch right there.

2208
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Bengals are in there twice, but

2209
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: you play Buffalo, the Chargers, the Colts, the Packers, all

2210
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 2: those teams expected to be playoff teams. So this is

2211
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 2: a game where they can get a little bit of

2212
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 2: a cushion, a little bit of a breathing room or

2213
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: a little bit of a breathing room, and a chance

2214
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 2: really to set themselves up nicely in the AFC North.

2215
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 2: So I think they understand the importance of that as well.

2216
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 2: Talking about Rogers specifically, his stats on the season, they're fine.

2217
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: He's thrown for one twenty one yards, He's completing sixty

2218
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 2: eight percent of his passes, has ten touchdowns and three interceptions,

2219
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: and that's a Rogers staple. He takes care of the football.

2220
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 2: Has got the greatest touchdown interception ratio of any quarterback

2221
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: who's ever played the game. DK Metcalf has nineteen catches

2222
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 2: for three hundred and fifty yards and four touchdown to

2223
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 2: lead them. No other receiver has more than one hundred

2224
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 2: and fifty more than one hundred and forty yards. Their

2225
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 2: next leading receiver is actually their running back Jalen Warren,

2226
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 2: who has three hundred and fifty or one hundred and

2227
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 2: fifty three yards, which is kind of crazy to think about.

2228
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 2: Nick Herbig is their leader in sacks. He's got four

2229
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 2: and a half. The TJ. Watt has three and a half.

2230
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon, the rookie d tackle a lot of Bengals

2231
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 2: fans won and out of Oregon he has two. And

2232
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 2: how about Jalen Ramsey, the cornerback we talked about earlier.

2233
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 2: He had two sacks last week. So Pittsburgh got a

2234
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 2: little exotic. With former Bengals defensive coordinator Terrell Austin calling

2235
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 2: their defense, Jalen Ramsey dialed up a sack or two.

2236
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We

2237
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 2: don't have mo today because Moe and Lance and Rocky

2238
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: have pregame sports talk from Holy Grail that'll be on

2239
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 2: this station and on seven hundred WLW. So they are

2240
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 2: getting ready for that down at the Holy Grail. When

2241
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll take a phone call and wrap

2242
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 2: things up. This is since he three to sixty on

2243
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

2244
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: And see three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's

2245
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 1: sports station. It's time for Sincy three sixty quick hits

2246
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2247
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 2: I was looking for Mo. Well, Mo's not here. He's

2248
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 2: getting set for the broadcast with Lance and Rocky for

2249
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 2: pregame sports talk at the Holy Grail, So that'll be

2250
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 2: coming up next from three until six thirty. Then we'll

2251
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 2: turn things over to Wayne box Miller and the Bengals

2252
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 2: for Bengals Steelers, and then I will be right back

2253
02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 2: here from twelve thirty am to two thirty am Friday

2254
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 2: morning with full postgame coverage on the Tri State Chevy

2255
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 2: Dealers Postgame Sports Talk Show. And I invite you to

2256
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 2: join me into the wee hours, especially if you're on

2257
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 2: your way back home from the game. We've got time

2258
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 2: for a phone call before we wrap things up. Let's

2259
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 2: talk to our guy Mike in La.

2260
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:56,240
Speaker 4: What up, Mike, My brother's not a whole lot good.

2261
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2262
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 4: In the neighborhood. Yeah, you get a long one going,

2263
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 4: would either go home and take a nap or his

2264
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 4: I don't take naps.

2265
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 2: Well view, I don't normally. I'd always try to sleep

2266
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 2: in as late as I can today, so I did,

2267
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 2: I need to get some laundry done, but I am

2268
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 2: going to try to sneak in a nap.

2269
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah probably. Well, the older you get, the more critical

2270
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 4: naps are. But I still can't seem to do it.

2271
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 4: I'm just too wired, too tight. Yeah, psychological fans. I'd

2272
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 4: like to quickly say hi to my old friend Jeff

2273
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 4: from Virginia and my new friend Joe from Boston. And

2274
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 4: I got a quick one for you.

2275
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 2: If Mike, Mike, his name is? His name is John,

2276
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 2: John from Boston.

2277
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 4: I meant John, I said, Joe, Yeah, typical, Sorry John.

2278
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 4: I was on my way once. It is a quickie.

2279
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 4: I was on my way to Queen's one time years ago,

2280
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 4: and I ended up going through an area called the

2281
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 4: combat Zone in Boston and got robbed for three hundred

2282
02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 4: and twenty three dollars.

2283
02:01:58,480 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2284
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 4: So don't Joe or John tell us about the combat

2285
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 4: zone next time? If it's still there. I know we're

2286
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 4: talking football today appropriately. But uh, you know, we got

2287
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 4: a big game tonight with the Dodgers and the Brewer.

2288
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 4: I do not know how in the hell No, Waukee

2289
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 4: won ninety seven games with that pitching staffe. I don't

2290
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 4: understand it.

2291
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did it, did it without their their

2292
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 2: best group really for the most part. And they've been

2293
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:32,560
Speaker 2: kind of patchworking it up like the Dodgers for a while.

2294
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. But what happened with the Dodgers was glass Now

2295
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 4: was out good portion of the year, Snell was out

2296
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 4: a good portion of the year, Yamamoto was that. So

2297
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 4: these guys are kind of fresh, oddly enough. So tonight

2298
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 4: we've got Glass now where three point one nine going

2299
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:56,080
Speaker 4: against Alan Ashby. He's a lefty. But anyway, I think,

2300
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 4: uh again, I don't know how the Brewers won that

2301
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 4: many games. I just don't get it.

2302
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. And it feels like

2303
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,520
Speaker 2: maybe the Dodgers are hitting their stride a little bit

2304
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 2: as well.

2305
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 4: You just wonder if some of these teams, and I'm

2306
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 4: sure it happens in baseball, like in pulling football too,

2307
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 4: but especially in baseball with that long season. Guy starts

2308
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 4: probably in all of this and late July, they start

2309
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 4: getting a little burnout and you wonder about their apport

2310
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 4: level and stuff like that because they're, you know, they're

2311
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 4: tired of doing it every day.

2312
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 2: Probably right, Yeah, I'm sure they are. I mean, this

2313
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 2: is the grind man like and I think there's like

2314
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 2: a certain level of juice and like excitement that comes

2315
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 2: with being in the playoffs that makes it easy with

2316
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 2: the adrenaline, But at the same time, your body is

2317
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:50,560
Speaker 2: just exhausted.

2318
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 4: And Aaron Rodgers scares me tonight. Those numbers you gave

2319
02:03:56,360 --> 02:04:00,120
Speaker 4: on Aaron Rodgers for his age are remarkable, ass and

2320
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 4: they're remarkable.

2321
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a monster. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of

2322
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: every quarterback that plays the Bengals. I've learned that lesson

2323
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 2: too many times. It doesn't really matter who it is

2324
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 2: they can torture.

2325
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 4: Do they have any good why I haven't kept up

2326
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 4: with the Steward They have any good whiteouts at all? Yeah?

2327
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 2: They have DK Metcalf. They traded for him, uh this

2328
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 2: offseason from Seattle. Yeah, he's having a good season.

2329
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 4: But that's the only one right of any notoriety.

2330
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they traded George Pickens to the Cowboys and

2331
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 2: Calvin Austin is hurt tonight, So yeah, that's the main one.

2332
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 4: So what's what's the key? I know you've probably said

2333
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 4: it during the show and I was having a procedure

2334
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 4: and I missed it. What's your synopsis of how the

2335
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,320
Speaker 4: Bengals can win the game tonight? That all hang out.

2336
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it has to be a

2337
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 2: track meet. I don't trust the defense, and especially don't

2338
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:58,400
Speaker 2: trust the defense without Trey Hendrickson. So as far as

2339
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, it's can you keep up with Aaron Rodgers?

2340
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,880
Speaker 2: And that that ultimately is going to be the thing

2341
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 2: with me. And obviously I keep harping on them being

2342
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:10,120
Speaker 2: able to run the ball. I don't know if that's

2343
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 2: gonna change Pittsburgh's league average right in the middle when

2344
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 2: it comes to defending the run. But for me, it's

2345
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:17,880
Speaker 2: can you keep up with Aaron Rodgers?

2346
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 4: Have they lost they Have the Bengals lost faith in

2347
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 4: Chase Brown? Or is it strictly because the offense line

2348
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 4: just isn't good enough.

2349
02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's that the offensive line

2350
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 2: isn't good enough.

2351
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 4: To be honest, Okay, thank you all. Austin, try to

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Speaker 4: enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, I appreciate it. I will good to

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Speaker 2: hear your voice. That's our guy, Mike in La.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm on twelve thirty to two thirty early Friday morning

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Speaker 2: after the game for the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame

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Speaker 2: sports talk show. Coming up on tomorrow's show, as far

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Speaker 2: as I know, business as usual. Talk to Charlie Goldsmith

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Speaker 2: at one pm. We'll check in a little FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: with Tommy g as well, and of course full reaction

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Speaker 2: to what happened tonight at pay Corpse Stadium between the

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Speaker 2: Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll also look ahead a

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Speaker 2: little bit to the college football slate. We haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: too much into the Bearcats this week, but I've been

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Speaker 2: saving it for Friday. Scott Centerfield met earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: We got the availability reports for their game against Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: Bearcats are heavy favorites in that game. I think the

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Speaker 2: expectation is for UC to go out to Stillwater and

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Speaker 2: roll up against Oklahoma State. So that's my expectation at least,

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Speaker 2: and this weekend there's a little bit of Bearcat basketball

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Speaker 2: as well. Wes Miller and the Cats looking to go

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Speaker 2: up to Michigan to play the Wolverines. I know Xavier

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Speaker 2: has a scrimmage this weekend as well, And yeah, so

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Speaker 2: this is getting to that time of the year where

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Speaker 2: things start happening and it kind of all happens at

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Speaker 2: once because they're coming back from the international break shortly

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Speaker 2: for soccer. And yeah, one last thing I want to

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Speaker 2: leave you with before I go. I saw this from

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Speaker 2: Nick Mangold, the former New York Jets Center and Ohio

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Speaker 2: state legend. He posted in on his Twitter page that

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and six he was diagnosed with a

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Speaker 2: genetic defect that has led to chronic kidney disease, and

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Speaker 2: after a rough summer, he was undergoing dialysis and looking

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Speaker 2: for a kidney transplant. He thought he had more time,

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Speaker 2: but it has deteriorated. And if you go to his

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Speaker 2: Twitter page at Nick Mangold nick m A. N. Gold,

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Speaker 2: he posted out there that he's looking for someone with

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Speaker 2: type O blood who might be willing to be a

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Speaker 2: kidney donor. He posts the link how you can check

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Speaker 2: if you're interested. And yeah, I mean Nick Mangold is

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Speaker 2: an absolute legend. He's a Jets Ring of Honor member,

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Speaker 2: He's an All American at All State First Team. All

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Speaker 2: good guy and if you know anyone that could help

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Speaker 2: or if you're interested in helping. I retweeted it as

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Speaker 2: well at Audio More. Definitely a tough, tough story there

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Speaker 2: for uh Nick Mangold and wish him all the best.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that does it for today. Thank you so

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