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Speaker 1: A couple more quick texts then we'll break for Kessie.

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Speaker 1: This is from let me get a name here, some

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Speaker 2: Dan, You're right on Cuban.

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Speaker 1: It's meaningless to be philosophical by the topic when you're

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Speaker 4: I wish the American media would take a great look

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Speaker 2: Will find out are they pro America or anti America?

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Speaker 4: At Kessler because people have got to know whether or

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Speaker 2: I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis Airport.

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Speaker 1: Cemetery or no, Jack Kennedy Kessler and now to help

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Speaker 2: It's our own Kessler political Walk. I feel like a supermodel,

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Speaker 2: except like Times ten, it's Channel fours, Mad Kessler with

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Speaker 1: All Right, it is that time again, questions and observations

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Speaker 1: already coming in for special k Pat Kesler, What was

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Speaker 4: Yes, I live pretty much on the outskirts of the

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Speaker 1: That's true, very much.

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Speaker 2: You know I left.

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Speaker 1: I told y to the bar and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: But I did say you didn't have to come today.

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Speaker 2: That is on to six thirty. Well, no, I mean

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Speaker 2: No one would work hurt problem with place.

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00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're all tough.

438
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: And yeah he's doing some cutting, cutting up some for

439
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 4: for for the show. A little later, I see, okay,

440
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 4: so we can't hear this, so I'm able to say this.

441
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 4: He is devastated. I mean he is, he's pretending to

442
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: be devastating. No, I mean this guy is so good.

443
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Speaker 1: Well, he's very good, which is why vera believable grief. Well,

444
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: he I mean the excuse of I tend to calm

445
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: him down. Man, weird ass weather app or road app.

446
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: I've never heard of being his his bible. That's what

447
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: I said, So what are you doing? Yeah, you gotta

448
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: working at this and you know, I'm like the granddad.

449
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah that's you know, but that's why he won't listen.

450
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: So that's the famous you know, Chipskogin's uh former colleague.

451
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Speaker 1: Man have to start to bunion. He's historically known for

452
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Speaker 1: if he's got like a if he's got a six

453
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Speaker 1: thirty flight back to the Twin Cities after covering a

454
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Speaker 1: game six thirty am. Yes, he at the airport, but

455
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: by basically three am, like he's waiting for them to

456
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Speaker 1: open security. Completely understand, that's how he's wired. He ends

457
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: up going through the airport at the time where there's this,

458
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: there's people sleeping, you know, and shares that's it.

459
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: But he's got it.

460
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Speaker 4: He's that because as as the old saying goes, early time,

461
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: you're late, you're you're on time.

462
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Speaker 2: And that's the way it is. That's the way I did.

463
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Speaker 2: I did not know that.

464
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Speaker 4: That's the deal man, And people make fun of me

465
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Speaker 4: for it. And next thing, I know, you're going to

466
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Speaker 4: make fun of me for carrying an elephant gun in

467
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Speaker 4: the trunk. But what if what if there's an elephant? Yeah,

468
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: you know, that's the deal. So did you hear speaking

469
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: of that? But that's an obscure reference. And I've saved

470
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Speaker 4: the story, but I didn't bring it today. This was

471
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: a really good enterprise piece in the Wall Street Journal

472
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: about elephants, and there was an effort, again with the

473
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Speaker 4: greatest of intentions.

474
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Speaker 1: There was like where they they were becoming a a

475
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Speaker 1: an endangered species in one part of the continent. And

476
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: so the these these you know, one of these green outfits,

477
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: they go out of their way to all right, here's

478
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: what we have, this massive project.

479
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be We're gonna move.

480
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna move as hard as it is a bunch

481
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Speaker 1: of these elephants to other areas to try to even

482
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Speaker 1: it out, bounce it out, whatever the case may be. Yeah, yeah,

483
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: all the best intentions of the world. And it's been

484
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Speaker 1: a disaster because where they thought they were gonna be

485
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Speaker 1: able to keep the elephants when they moved him, the

486
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Speaker 1: elephants say, not so fast, my friend, We're still gonna

487
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Speaker 1: go where we want to go. And there have been

488
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Speaker 1: farmers that have been forced to kill some of the

489
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Speaker 1: elephants because the elephants have killed them. It's a sordid

490
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Speaker 1: story that reminds you that sometimes the best intentions still

491
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Speaker 1: don't end with any kind of good, desirable result.

492
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Speaker 4: And also we've tried to do this for thousands of years. Yes,

493
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 4: but we cannot control nature. No, we can't, so try to,

494
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Speaker 4: So don't try. Yeah, that's probably we can see the

495
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: clouds and do all that kind of thing. Uh, And

496
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Speaker 4: that's why we're controlling the climate right now.

497
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Speaker 2: But no, man, we can't do it.

498
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Speaker 1: I had two other things I want to get to

499
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Speaker 1: before we discuss. You know, you know God knows what else.

500
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Speaker 2: Well, by the way, well this is from you familiar

501
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Speaker 2: with seth.

502
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: Kaplan very month so very accomplished, highly toutored, exactly producer.

503
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Speaker 2: They're familiar with, very good.

504
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: So is this true? Is it Hobland or Hoveland, Minnesota?

505
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: H O V L A N D. You know I've

506
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: always said holand Hoveland.

507
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: It's eighteen miles northeast of Grand Moray, thirty four inches

508
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: of snow. Come on, that's two inches short of the

509
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: all time record for a Minnesota snowfall. In twenty four hours,

510
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: they're at thirty four inches of snow, the record for

511
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: one day. January seventh, nineteen ninety four or for twenty

512
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Speaker 1: four hours, which was near Finland, which is ten miles

513
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: north of Silver Bay. Thirty six inches in a twenty

514
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Speaker 1: four hour period.

515
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: So I know that that was forecast.

516
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: I don't remember that this was our weather here in

517
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: the Twin Cities now is quite like this, But they

518
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 4: were expecting a couple of feet of snow. It looks

519
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: like it's exceeded that. In the northern part of the state.

520
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: I was listening to some folks up in Grand Moray

521
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: who were hunkered down with generators and shutting down businesses

522
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Speaker 4: Big Ran.

523
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

524
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So this is hard to believe, but I

525
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: absolutely believe that this is a nature going on.

526
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a before we get to the

527
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: A section a a sports consumer question. So let's be clear.

528
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever games you go to now, you tend

529
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: to go to the beautiful people's seats. And I'm not

530
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: ripping you for it. I mean I stand well kind.

531
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Speaker 4: Of, Oh no, I buy pay for all my tickets,

532
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, but you buy beautiful people tickets well yeah,

533
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: and and right when you buy most.

534
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Of them, not all of them. Well, just like just

535
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: like I don't go anywhere in any games anyway, you

536
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: go to more games than I do now. But here's

537
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: what I'm asking as a and you and you fancy

538
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: yourself a sports fan, I think largely.

539
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: So you put all that together, where are you on?

540
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: I mean the debate.

541
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: That Mark Cubans now got himself in the middle and say,

542
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: you know what, the Durnay little secret is, fans don't

543
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: mind when we tank because they know the reason we're

544
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: doing it. They understand that that's, in some cases, for

545
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: some markets, the only chance we're going to get to

546
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: add a really talented, game changing, franchise changing player, so

547
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: they can live with it. They may not love it,

548
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: but they understand it and they apply. So you go

549
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: to I think most games to not just watch, but

550
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: to watch your team win and to root for your team.

551
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: So how contrary do you find the whole tanking proposition?

552
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: Even if Mark Cuban says there's a team, there are

553
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: reasons that teams do what they do.

554
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Speaker 4: I have a great deal of respect, I really do,

555
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: sincerely for Mark Cuban. I think he is a great

556
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: American businessman and sports owner. I hope he gets another franchise.

557
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: I think he's really good for the sport However, on

558
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: this I think he is wrong. I go to games

559
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: not just to see our own players. Let's talk about

560
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: the timberwo You go to games to be seen, to

561
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: be seen, but yeah, number one to be seen, number

562
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: two to see our players. But I choose games to

563
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: see the players coming in from out of town.

564
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Speaker 2: This year, for example, Steph Curry.

565
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Speaker 4: I really really really wanted to see Steph Curry, and

566
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: so I go to those games, and if they sat

567
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: him for the game, I would be very upset, especially

568
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: if you're tanking. I don't think it matters. I think

569
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 4: it's hit and miss with the draft anyway. Unless you're

570
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: gonna get the number one. That's the fatal flaw. It's

571
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: very much hit and this. Look at us, Look at

572
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: us here in Minnesota with all of the draft picks

573
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: we've had for the Timberwolves, and you know, many, perhaps

574
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: most of them have not panned out.

575
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter.

576
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: You're gonna get somebody late in the first round or

577
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: in the second round that's going to outplay, outperform and

578
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: be a better player than people that are are way

579
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: ahead of it. So I completely while meanwhile, you're gonna

580
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: completely disagree.

581
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: You're going to.

582
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Speaker 1: Urinate on the whole concept of competition by by going

583
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: down that road. You are you are, you know, giving

584
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: the back of your hand to everything that is supposed

585
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: to be what attracts people to sports. That's what I

586
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: can't stand about it, and especially when it's as brazen

587
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: as it's now happening. Whereas we say you're Utah, you're

588
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: ahead going into the fourth quarter, you sit for two players,

589
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: your two best players, who've played and played well through

590
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: three quarters the rest of the game. There's only one

591
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: reason you do that, to make sure you lose. Now,

592
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: as it turns out, they won that game. But that's

593
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: not the point. I mean that that's a that's what

594
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: is a time for. What is fine from the fine

595
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: in this case was half a million.

596
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: That's not enough. It's not enough. You got to get

597
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: away good fine, ten million.

598
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Ten million or more, draft choice or guess what you

599
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: think you're going to have a fourteen percent chance the

600
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: way you're tanking a fourteen percent chance to win the lottery,

601
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: you're down to zero. You're down to zero point four percent.

602
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: To me, that's the kind of commissioner.

603
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: You got to have.

604
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Somebody who sends a strong enough message to say this

605
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: is not this can't stand in our league because it

606
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: will eventually come to buy it.

607
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: Now it sounds corny, but I take my kids to

608
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: a game, and if they saw that and one wanted

609
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: to see it, that's really disheartening and discouraging for them

610
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: and makes them grow up to be cynical sports fans.

611
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: So like us, like you and I are. I'm a

612
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: rube your center, you are a rube.

613
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: That's true. By the way, what is the date today?

614
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: Today? Is eighteen to eighteen?

615
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: By all rights, you should have been here yesterday because

616
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: on to seventeen, nine years ago, on yesterday's date, nine

617
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: years ago, all right?

618
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: What happened nine What happened in February that you.

619
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Speaker 1: Covered that you in your job at Channel four coverab

620
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: exten twenty seventeen, So nine years ago, all right? So

621
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Speaker 1: feb seventeen, twenty seventeen.

622
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Speaker 4: You know, And they come to mind it, doesn't they

623
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: They all met and melt together all the stories that I've.

624
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: Ever done on that date nine years ago yesterday?

625
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

626
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Ted Mondale and Michelle kelm Helgan resigned from the US

627
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Bank Stadium Oversight Committee.

628
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: Why didn't I remember that?

629
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Because of personal use of sweets at the stadium, a

630
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: story we've referenced forever since yesterday was the anniversary nine years.

631
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is really something that I didn't remember that

632
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: you have been so harsh over the years for two.

633
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I've ripped Harry very servants. I've tried to stand tall

634
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: for Hank, who got custo the middle of it.

635
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

636
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: Yes, what did Hank do it wrong?

637
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Other than he?

638
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Mary Michelle, That's true.

639
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 4: These are great public servants that dedicated their lives to

640
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 4: helping the state of Minnesota.

641
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: They built the stadium, did they not?

642
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

643
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: But there were so many sweetheart deals and how innocent

644
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: we were?

645
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: How innocent were we?

646
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: And this was one of the sweetheart deals.

647
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: Apparently that's sweet person you could let your family use it.

648
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: How naive are we that we forced those people to

649
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: resign when we look at the corruption in sports and

650
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: politics today.

651
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: Today, I just asking it seems rather innocent, doesn't it does.

652
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: Here's the quote from your guy, the governor at the time,

653
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Mark Dayton. He'd been supportive of the two previously, but

654
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 1: said their resignations would quote enable the authority to move

655
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: ahead and hopefully allow everyone to regain perspective on the

656
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Speaker 1: stadium well being the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority ms FA.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and they ushered through the architecture, the building of

658
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Speaker 4: all of this of the stadium, this beautiful stadium, the

659
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Speaker 4: number one stadium in the NFL today.

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Speaker 2: Calm down, Am I wrong?

661
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Speaker 1: It's tough.

662
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Speaker 2: It's top one.

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Speaker 4: And this was something that there was so much political

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Speaker 4: pressure and I feel like it was fanned by the media,

665
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Speaker 4: and sure it was wrong, but man, oh man, did

666
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Speaker 4: they pay a price?

667
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Speaker 2: Didn't they?

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Speaker 1: I think they're probably fine?

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Speaker 2: Do you? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You tell me you know him better than I do,

671
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: and you stay in touch with him. I'd say that,

672
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 4: you know, this is something that stays with you, stays

673
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Speaker 4: with you. So when when I always think about this, So,

674
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: what's your obit going to read?

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Speaker 2: What's the second life attle bit?

676
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Speaker 1: Yeah? You know that's true.

677
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Speaker 2: There it is.

678
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Speaker 1: That's the way it works, be true.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to yesterday's open to the Minnesota Legislature. By

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Speaker 1: all accounts, a a very historic scene and a very

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Speaker 1: emotional scene as well. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I watched gosh, almost all of it.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was really emotional, much more so than I expected

686
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Speaker 4: it to be. It was one of these times where

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Speaker 4: Republicans and Democrats, one of the rare moments in our

688
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Speaker 4: lives in Minnesota where they were all together in sadness.

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Speaker 4: They paid tribute to the assassinated House Speaker Melissa Hortman

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Speaker 4: and her husband Mark. There were lots of tributes, There

691
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Speaker 4: were lots of tears. Their children watched from the gallery.

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Speaker 2: This is how they opened the session.

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Speaker 4: Governor Walls gave a really heartfelt, impactful speech about them.

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Speaker 4: And then up the stairs, the grand staircase to the

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Senate. Up walked John Hoffman. He is the state

696
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Speaker 4: senator who was shot nine times, nine times. His wife

697
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Speaker 4: was shot eight times in an assassination attempt. He survived it.

698
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Speaker 4: He was accompanied by a state patrol guard, walked up

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Speaker 4: to thunderous applause. And by the way, he has said

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Speaker 4: a number of times now, he was shot nine times.

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Speaker 4: You know the other major public figure who was shot

702
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Speaker 4: nine times and survivedy cent Oh yeah, he was shot

703
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Speaker 4: nine times and survived.

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Speaker 1: So he one of the great swings and missus in

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Speaker 1: bumper to bumper history, stood basically right behind where Brett

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Speaker 1: Blakemore is seated in studio a on a Friday Night's

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Speaker 1: Fantastic on a Friday Nights board. You know how I

708
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Speaker 1: ended up here basically asking to come on? Oh no,

709
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Speaker 1: And I said no, not because I was trying to

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Speaker 1: be difficult, but because I honestly, at that point I

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Speaker 1: think this was early fifty cent Yes, did not know

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Speaker 1: what I would ask him.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, he was wearing the bulletproof. I

714
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Speaker 2: don't know that. Yeah, that's true, but I guess music.

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Speaker 1: So now I look back and say, what a what

716
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Speaker 1: a what a missed opportunity he cult?

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean he might fit. He said, I might

718
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Speaker 2: have got him to cut open a vein for that

719
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Speaker 2: kind of god.

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Speaker 4: You know, he has this this persona of a tough

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Speaker 4: guy gangs, right, that's not who he is. No, he

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Speaker 4: well he is, but that's not all. So Senator John

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Speaker 4: Hoffman bringing it back to Minnesota standing ovation. Yes, but

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Speaker 4: Fitty sent was shot nine times, so they want he

725
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Speaker 4: wants to be called Fitty Sennatur Fitty Senatorjan Hoffman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he says, it's not you, that's not even

727
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Speaker 2: that's not a joke. Yeah, because it's a joke, but

728
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Speaker 2: that's what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: That's the key to it, because if you say it

730
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Speaker 1: as if you're bringing introducing it, you're gonna get savaged

731
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Speaker 1: as you're trivial trivializing something that's serious.

732
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Speaker 2: But he said it.

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Speaker 4: He gave a speech that people were crying, Oh my god.

734
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Speaker 4: It was just really something. And I wrote it down

735
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Speaker 4: just so I could say it here that he gave

736
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Speaker 4: a speech asking for unit. He said, the people are

737
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Speaker 4: not asking us to be harsher, They're asking us to

738
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Speaker 4: be steady.

739
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Speaker 2: They're asking us to lead.

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Speaker 4: They are we going to change after everything in Minnesota

741
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Speaker 4: that has happened, To think about it, we have the assassination,

742
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Speaker 4: the Hartman's are murdered, the senator and his wife are shot,

743
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Speaker 4: the Annunciation School shootings. Then we get the fraud scandal

744
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: that blows up. You've got Governor Walls dropping out of

745
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Speaker 4: the race. Ice invades Minneapolis for Trump's retribution that kills

746
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Speaker 4: two people. Think about what we have been through. Are

747
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Speaker 4: is this something that is going to allow us to

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Speaker 4: June at least?

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

750
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Speaker 4: Since June we have PTSD in the state. Are we

751
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Speaker 4: going to lower the temperature in the state in the

752
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Speaker 4: legislature and actually do this day? I just don't think

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Speaker 4: it's Yeah, by the way, there are now metal detectors.

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Speaker 4: There is going there next that they are now in. Yes,

755
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Speaker 4: their way in there in they just said the heck

756
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Speaker 4: with it. The governor. They've been studying this for years. Yes,

757
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Speaker 4: but the governor has ordered now at several checkpoints. They've

758
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Speaker 4: closed down many checkpoints. I knew every nook and cranny

759
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Speaker 4: of the Capitol, and I think there were nineteen different entrances.

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Speaker 2: They've lowered the entrances, shrunk them to only a few.

761
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Speaker 2: There are metal detectors. You have to empty your bag,

762
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Speaker 2: just like many many other rights. So that is a

763
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Speaker 2: sign of what happened with the shooters.

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Speaker 4: But you're allowed to carry your guns in the Capitol,

765
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Speaker 4: and that's something that still people have a problem with,

766
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Speaker 4: and that's one of the issues that's going to be

767
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Speaker 4: coming up in this legislative session. So really really emotional day,

768
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Speaker 4: and I was proud of the Republicans and Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Together at least for that one day. There was some harmony.

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked a good question, what is the status of

771
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Speaker 1: that case slash prosecution? Where are we in that continuum?

772
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Speaker 2: No, that's no worry.

773
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Speaker 4: No, there it's plotting along because the investigation is going.

774
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Speaker 4: There are so many different charges with this case, with

775
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Speaker 4: the shooter, and I believe there's going to be a

776
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Speaker 4: hearing in a month or so, just a procedural hearing,

777
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Speaker 4: but I don't think we're near a trial date for that.

778
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Speaker 1: And these do tend to go pretty glacially.

779
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a year. I think it's

780
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Speaker 2: going to be a year.

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00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: The hurt will not be gone people, many people will

782
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Speaker 4: have moved on, but you're going to have this and

783
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: it's going to remind us all again of the horror

784
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Speaker 4: of that night.

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Speaker 1: Let's make this the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Pause.

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Speaker 1: I've got a couple more stories on your list. I

788
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Speaker 1: got one. I've got actually two on mind that I

789
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Speaker 1: want to introduce. One that I think is flying really

790
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Speaker 1: curiously under the radar. That isn't local, it's not regional,

791
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: it's national and international, which I want to run by you,

792
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that and other things. Special k

793
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Speaker 1: on a very very busy day here on the Bumper

794
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Speaker 1: to Bumper program and a rather a distressing day on

795
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Speaker 1: the roads based on all the texts that continue to

796
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Speaker 1: pour into the indook. All right, Kessler, I got a

797
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: couple of things I got to run by you, but

798
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Speaker 1: I want to find the exact wording here. So this

799
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Speaker 1: is in reaction to a tweet by somebody named Barack Ravid,

800
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Speaker 1: who is a global affairs correspondent for Axios. He's also

801
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: been on CNN. Yes, I have read him, and so

802
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: here's what he writes. This was I think earlier, Yeah,

803
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Speaker 1: I was earlier. Today Trump moves closer to a major

804
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Speaker 1: war with Iran. It could come sooner and be much

805
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Speaker 1: bigger than most recognized sources tell me, to which a

806
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: New York Times columnist named David French writes, it's astonishing

807
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: that we're building up for a significant military clash and

808
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Speaker 1: Congress isn't involved, no real cases being made to the public,

809
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: and the average American has no clue. If this gets serious,

810
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: it will be a shock for lots of people. I

811
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Speaker 1: think this has been now again, we don't nothing. It

812
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet, but it's sure as hell appears according

813
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: to the military reporting, a lot of hardware is either

814
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Speaker 1: there or on its way there. You could say that's

815
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: a bluff, whatever the case may be. But I nationally and internationally,

816
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Speaker 1: in terms of the usual places that cover this kind

817
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Speaker 1: of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been lacking.

819
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Speaker 1: I think there's not been enough focus on this story,

820
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna, especially if it ends up being enormous,

821
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Speaker 1: we're gonna look back and say, what the hell's how

822
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Speaker 1: do we get to this particular spot. I think it's

823
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Speaker 1: been underreported.

824
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Speaker 4: And this is once again a threat of war, of

825
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Speaker 4: coming from the administration that promised to get out of

826
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Speaker 4: all wars but since then has invaded and taken the

827
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Speaker 4: President of Venezuela threatening in Cuba, wants to take mainland.

828
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Speaker 4: All of this, but in this particular case, which this

829
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Speaker 4: is sneaking up on us without any Republican pushback or

830
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 4: control in the Congress. One of the things that has

831
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Speaker 4: struck me that's very unusual about this is that it

832
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Speaker 4: is said that this may likely be a US Israeli war.

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of texts on that team, and

834
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Speaker 2: you think.

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Speaker 4: About that, where if that is what it's going to be,

836
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Speaker 4: after what's happened in Gaza and the possibility of war,

837
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Speaker 4: the bombings of the nuclear facilities in Iran. I do

838
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: think this is a powder keg that could in fact

839
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Speaker 4: grow into something so big that you won't be able

840
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Speaker 4: to contain it. And that's the danger in the Middle East,

841
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: always has been, always will be, because it will spill

842
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: over to not just the other countries in the Middle East,

843
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: some that are not at war, but in the terrorist

844
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: cells that are all over there, the hate in the

845
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: Middle East for Israel, this could be a tremendously difficult

846
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: situation goes forward with.

847
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Speaker 1: What I and what I still trying to get my

848
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: hands around. And again there's been some reporting on this

849
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: is We are well aware there was what appeared to

850
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Speaker 1: be a significant protest that took place what several weeks

851
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Speaker 1: ago in Iran, and it also looks, again depending on

852
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Speaker 1: what report you want to believe, the possibility that thousands

853
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Speaker 1: were murdered protesters. We don't have those numbers for sure,

854
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: because it's a difficult country to report on. But what

855
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Speaker 1: I'm back to is, what are you so what if

856
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Speaker 1: you're going this big militarily, at least in theory in

857
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: terms of what you've sent there, where are.

858
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Speaker 2: You going with this? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Is this the classic we're gonna change, We're gonna we're

860
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Speaker 1: gonna cripple the regime exactly?

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Speaker 2: And how do you even go about?

862
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Speaker 1: So? Is that going to be endless bombing, is it

863
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Speaker 1: going to be missiles? And when it becomes this big,

864
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: doesn't Congress shouldn't Congress be asking Republicans and Democrats a

865
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: lots of questions about where we headed on this thing.

866
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Speaker 4: Well, American law says that Congress only. Congress has the

867
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Speaker 4: authority to declare war. If this is a week's long

868
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Speaker 4: campaign of bombing different installations in Iran and perhaps killing hundreds,

869
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Speaker 4: maybe thousands of people, that's a war.

870
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Speaker 2: That's an invasion, and that's a war.

871
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Speaker 4: One of the issues here for me is that why,

872
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 4: what is the purpose?

873
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Speaker 2: What is the end goal? That's to me? Yeah, what

874
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 2: are you going to get for this?

875
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: And the supporters of the president, including Vance, will say, well,

876
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: that's Trump negotiating. Taking the world to the edge of

877
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: nuclear conflagration is how Trump negotiates. I don't understand exactly

878
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 4: what they're doing unless it is to prevent Iran from

879
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: developing a nuclear weapon. Is there something we don't know here?

880
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 4: Because the President said not too long ago, a few

881
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: months ago, that they had completely obliterated the nuclear.

882
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 2: Facility, but apparently that's not true.

883
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: He also said that he was going to there will

884
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: be terrible consequences for the regime if in fact they

885
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: execute those eight hundred protesters and then he backed away

886
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: from that, we don't know what happened. Maybe those protesters

887
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: are dead and thousands more on top of it. I

888
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 4: think the opaqueness of this administration is alarming for Republicans

889
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: and Democrats alike well in Washington, who aren't doing anything.

890
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: Here's what I think, here's how I think feeds on itself.

891
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 1: I think because of how aggressive and unilateral they've been,

892
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: the more you do it, I think, the more you

893
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: start believing that you can do anything right, and we'll

894
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: do whatever with this plancident exactly, and we'll do whatever

895
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: we want to do. And I think that's my concern.

896
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: I have no problem I frankly, world, I don't think

897
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: there was as much condemnation of what was taking place

898
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: on the streets of Iran when it comes to the

899
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: degree to which protesters, and again we don't have any

900
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: final numbers on how many were killed, were dealt with.

901
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: I think the.

902
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: Cause is noble, but then the cause can be noble,

903
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: but it's a long way from that to we're going

904
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: to give you the tools to overthrow the government, to

905
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: put who in charge, to put what in charge? How

906
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: far are we willing to go to play this game

907
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: in the name of We're standing with the people of

908
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Iran on the ground, who have growne who have gotten

909
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: tired of theocracy.

910
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: That was a very hopeful time for a few days

911
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: when yeah, the protesters, the young protesters, the professionals, the

912
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: men and women who had great risks of themselves took

913
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: to the street.

914
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a wonderful thing to see. It

915
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: was almost like, yes, it was a herb spring movement.

916
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

917
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: The issue was that President Trump said that I will

918
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: protect you and if they do.

919
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: Anything to you, there will be severe consequences.

920
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 4: But then he said this, I think I'm quoting this

921
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 4: accurately from my memory. He said help is on the way.

922
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: What does that mean? What does that mean to the protesters? Canalyzing?

923
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: But in real it might be worse there now than

924
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 4: it was before exactly, So does that mean that the

925
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 4: president is going to go in? They've moved all these

926
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: battleships and armadas and military aircraft to the region, you

927
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: know where they move them from. They had to move

928
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 4: them from Venezuela, so they're all there, and the Wall

929
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 4: Street Journal reported. I believe that they have a story today.

930
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 4: I believe about the president's diplomacy without diplomats, so there's

931
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: none of this back channel stuff for decades of it.

932
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: It's his buddy, it's on the phone and and.

933
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Jersey, that's true, and it's him occasionally saying who what what?

934
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: Who is Was it a premier? Who was it? It

935
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: was a European country where he The quote from the

936
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: president I'm paraphrasing, was I, you know, I didn't like

937
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: the way I didn't like. I didn't I didn't like,

938
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: so I decided a higher percentage in the tariff.

939
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: I didn't like the way she was talking.

940
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: Talking about that when it happens almost absurd, so nonsense.

941
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 4: But maybe there's a reason, Maybe there's a good reason.

942
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 4: Maybe we should all be united in opposing Iran getting

943
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: a nuclear.

944
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: Weapon because we don't know where it's going.

945
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: But we don't know that that's the reason, right, and

946
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 4: we don't know what's happening, so way out we right,

947
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: not just the Republican Congress, I agree, totally.

948
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: Do we have a right to know this?

949
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: And in the meantime, they're saying they might take over Cuba,

950
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: So I don't know what's happening.

951
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: Last item I want to get to is the news

952
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: that broke yesterday that the Reverend Jesse Jackson had died

953
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: at the age of ninety four years old after dealing

954
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: with a pretty significant illness I think since late last year.

955
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: And you remind me about an occasion when you followed

956
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: him from Glenwood, Minnesota, to Atlanta, Georgia to Saint Paul.

957
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: Tell me about that.

958
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I had the opportunity and the honor

959
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 4: to interview him a number of times as a civil

960
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 4: rights leader.

961
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: He came to Minnesota. Gosh, this would.

962
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 4: Be in the mid eighties, I think, and he went

963
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: to the farmers, the young people. You can google it,

964
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: but there was a time in Minnesota in the mid

965
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: eighties where farmers were losing their farm they were being

966
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 4: foreclosed upon. The economy was so bad, and there were

967
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: protests all around the state. And Jesse Jackson shows up

968
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: in Glenwood, Minnesota, and I'm there and I had a

969
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: chance to meet him and talk to him at length,

970
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: and over time I had the opportunity to talk to

971
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: him a number of other times. He ran for president,

972
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 4: and in his Minnesota campaign chairman was Paul Wellstone College

973
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 4: professor good callback who never you know, had he was

974
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: going to run for Senate a number of years later,

975
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: but at this time he was generally unknown. Wellstone introduced

976
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 4: me to the dude and we talked for quite a

977
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: long time.

978
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Very impressive.

979
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: But then I end up in Atlanta at the National Convention,

980
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: and I've seen many many speeches and I can rank

981
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 4: them in my head, what are the greatest ones of all?

982
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: This one ranks as perhaps the greatest convention speech I

983
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: ever witnessed in Atlanta, where he did so much to.

984
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: He almost won the nomination.

985
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 4: It's the first time America really came to grips political

986
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 4: America with you know what, maybe, just maybe we could

987
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: elect a black man as president of the United States.

988
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 4: And people are starting to get this idea. So we're

989
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: at the convention. He was going to give a speech,

990
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 4: and he did. He gave this incredible speech that people

991
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: were anticipating. It was hot at the convention center was

992
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: filled up with people, so many people that the fire

993
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: marshals had to close the door. It was smoky, it

994
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: was crazy, and he gave a speech that left everyone

995
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: in tears. They were wrapped listening to him. You could

996
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: have heard a pin drop where he talked about the

997
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 4: people he represented, including the black women, the people who

998
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: wiped the bodies of the sick in hospitals but could

999
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 4: not go to hospitals themselves, that cleaned the hotel rooms

1000
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: but could not go into the hotel rooms themselves. And

1001
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: then he began what we had just begun to hear,

1002
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: keep hope alive, Keep hope alive, Keep hope alive. People

1003
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: are crying, they're screaming, they're mobbing the stage. He comes

1004
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 4: off the stage, makes his way through the crowd of people,

1005
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 4: and I'm standing at the bottom of the stage with

1006
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: Walter Mondale in the Minnesota delegation. And as he's making

1007
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: his way, he sees Mondal. He walks right over to

1008
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: Mondale and they embrace and Mondale I hear Mondale say

1009
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 4: to him, Jesse, that wasn't.

1010
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: Half bad in the true Minnesota West.

1011
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: Yes, understated way, but Jesse Jackson taught us what was possible.

1012
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: A man of many flaws, no question, and had so

1013
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: many flaws complicated, but also a man who really taught

1014
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: us how to be better people.

1015
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: It's very good recollection. That's why I wanted to get

1016
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: to it because I know you had vivid memories of it,

1017
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: and that speech, as you say, it's been talked about

1018
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: a lot again last day or two as being an

1019
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: incredibly inclusive speech that did try to reach out to everybody, Conservatives,

1020
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: he used those terms conservatives, liberals, et cetera.

1021
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 2: And you hit on a key part.

1022
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't win the nomination any either of

1023
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: the times he was heavily into it, but he did.

1024
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: As sad as it is that it took this long,

1025
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: he introduced people to the notion that a black man

1026
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: could There's no reason why this should not be in

1027
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: the mix. Too late, we'll all agree, but it had

1028
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: to start somewhere, and that's exactly what he represented. And

1029
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: somebody texted me a good reminder, and I think this

1030
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: is very, very true. The other thing I think he

1031
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: represents to the old guard. He is, as you said, flawed,

1032
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: ups down, some significant blunders. But he was the last,

1033
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: I think, living connection in a significant way to the

1034
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: movement to MLK to the late sixties because he was

1035
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: in on all. He was a youngster, he was a

1036
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: young pump then four years all of that stuff and

1037
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: that movement, and I think that.

1038
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: He is he was the biggest remaining name that links

1039
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: us to that historic time in the nation.

1040
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 4: That is so true and I love hearing it put

1041
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 4: that way. He was the bridge to the future of

1042
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: civil rights with Barack Obama, but also the bridge to

1043
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 4: the past. And at that Atlanta convention speech that affected

1044
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 4: me so much, he brought out on stage with him

1045
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: Rosa Parks.

1046
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Remember that.

1047
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, connection to the past, to the president, and then

1048
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: to the future.

1049
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

1050
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 4: He was an icon in American politics and somebody that

1051
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: I believe will be remembered for all he did for

1052
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 4: the possibility.

1053
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: Thank you for your effort, the yeoman like work actually

1054
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: getting here.

1055
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: You didn't have to. I appreciate your commitment to the

1056
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: bit you made it. I hope you can make it home.

1057
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: Now.

1058
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: You might not get home till ten. Well, me and

1059
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: Blake we're going to hang out here. What you should

1060
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: do is go to the golfer game. Tickets are probably

1061
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: going to be an hour and a half away.

1062
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's like for ailes and two hours.

1063
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true.

1064
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: No, that is true.

1065
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: So are there cots and beds?

1066
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: And I bet you could just bump up at the barn. Sure,

1067
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: I were very late. Thanks Kessie, will pause wrap things

1068
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: up in just a minute here in the family. It's

1069
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: the Bumper to Bumper Show rat.

1070
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: It's brought to you by American Pressure. It's I'm not

1071
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: sitting here and saying thank.

1072
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: You to the weather gods for creating the madness that

1073
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: has ensued in the Metro area, because I wouldn't wish that.

1074
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm anybody who's gotten caught up in the middle of it.

1075
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: That includes Brett blakemore. But it does sometimes make for

1076
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: the best radio because you're kind of making it up

1077
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: as it goes along, and we did enjoy that aspect

1078
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: of it and hopefully maybe distracted a person or two

1079
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: for a few minutes. As unsavory as the road conditions

1080
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: continued to be in the Twin Cities, I do want

1081
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: to thank Kessler for a stopping by today.

1082
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 2: I want to thank Pat mc.

1083
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: Who gave us some nice hockey analysis between periods two

1084
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: and three of the US Olympic men's hockey team's victory

1085
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: in overtime over Sweden to advance to the semifinals. By

1086
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: the way, tomorrow, I'm looking forward tomorrow's show as well.

1087
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: We will probably name the snow Nami, because even if

1088
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: we don't end up with like a bunch of inches

1089
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: of snow, it's been such a nuisance, I think we're

1090
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: obligated to name it. So you can give me options,

1091
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: the committee options via Dan Burrero Kfan. In addition, tomorrow

1092
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: it's the return, the emotional return of Mike Conley to

1093
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: the Bumper to Bumper program. He's back on the Wolves roster.

1094
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: He will tell his tale to us tomorrow. I think early.

1095
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: I want to say like three oh five, and in

1096
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: studio tomorrow if he can get out of his own driveway.

1097
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Roysi is scheduled to join us between the hours

1098
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: of four and five. So we look forward to both

1099
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: of those guests, and who knows what else. A lot

1100
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: of good Olympic stuff as well. Don't forget well, by

1101
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: the way guards, he made it to the bar and

1102
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: at six, so he's there in time, I think to

1103
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: do his job. I think you're off the hook, all right.

1104
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. We'll hear him.

1105
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brett Blake Morn we'll talk to you tomorrow.

1106
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: A three o'clock