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Always great to have mister Ben Gasline 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: with us on Tuesdays here at Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: At yesterday when nine to Noon was laying out what 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: we perceived to be ABCD topics like one, two, three, four, five. Yeah, 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: a lot of minutia to discuss, but the A topic 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: for nine to noon was win or lose. The raising 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: of this quarterback is the A topic for the organization. 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Yes In the estimation of nine to noon and it 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: sounds like you, I would agree with that. So then 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: we went through some names and I got to eventually 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: the who's the greatest quarterback quarterback in the history of 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings fran targeted. Okay, he went to the 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, right he did, and he also hosted 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: Saturday Night Live several times and work Monday Night Football 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: like pretty popular, right. 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Yes. 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: In his first four starts, one touchdown, six interceptions, he 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: completed fifty percent of his passes. This thing ain't easy, 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: as as McCarthy knows, O'Connell knows, the fan base is learning. 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: It's only four games with him, and good morning. 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Good morning. 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It is an interesting discs because this thing 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: of how patient you'd be with a young quarterback is. 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 4: We see different credations of this, and a lot of 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: times it's a young quarterback that's on a team that 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: didn't have the expectations that this one did. Where you're 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: coming off a fourteen win season and everybody's thinking this 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: could be a team that takes the next step and 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: wins a playoff game in twenty twenty five, and you're 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 4: going with all of those kind of priors that get 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: put on JJ McCarthy in a year where he's still 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: twenty two years old. He is I think if he 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 4: finishes the season, if he starts every game in the 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: rest of the season, he'll be like the tenth or 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: eleventh quarterback in this century to start twelve games before 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: his twenty third birthday. He doesn't turn twenty three until January, 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: so he is still very, very very young. But the 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: thing that makes a tricky is this is not a 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: team that was built to say, okay, let's you know, 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: take the patient with a young quarterback. So it's this 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: balance of yes, he is going to have to develop. 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I was looking up things yesterday. I think 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: there are seventy quarterbacks that have been drafted in the 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: first round in this century. Of that McCarthy I think 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: is like fifty six in terms of his passer rating 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: his first four starts, so not good, right, But the 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: name the two names directly below him on that list 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: are Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff, and Josh Allen is 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: further down the list. So there is just a steep 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: learning curve at this position in the NFL, and. 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 5: We acknowledge passer rating not the end all, but it 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 5: kind of leads you down a road of understanding trials 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: and tribute threads. 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's not going to be a player 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: at his most efficient probably at this point. So, yeah, 68 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: this this idea of raising a quarterback, and I you know, 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: talking to people internally, some of it is you build 70 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: the veteran roster in part so that the raising of 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: the young quarterback is easier in theory that there are 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: fewer unknowns around him, and it makes the development process 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: a little smoother in that idea as well. But this 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: is also a team that expected to win and be 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: a contender in the NFC, and it's hard to do 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: both of those things at the same time, I think 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: is the basic lesson of this kind of what we're 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: finding out. 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 5: So maybe we created some expectations in which we were 80 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: trying to thread one of the tougher needles. 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah we could ever possibly do. 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I also think I don't think the team 83 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: shot away from that though. I mean, I think talking 84 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: to people internally and just the way that they discussed 85 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: things before the season, I don't think anybody was sitting 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 4: here saying, well, the quarterbacks twenty two. So you kind 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: of have to look at this year is a little 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: bit of a building process, and you're not going to 89 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 4: win in twenty twenty five. I don't think anybody in 90 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 4: this building was looking at it that way. The question, 91 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: I suppose becomes how realistic was that? And maybe that 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: was a little bit of a moonshot, So you know, 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: maybe that's where you find things to be and you know, 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: maybe he starts to figure things out in the second 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 4: half of the season and you see progress and they 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: start to win games as a result of that. But 97 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing early is, yeah, in the 98 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: first four I mean, now you have Patrick Mahomes at 99 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: the top of that list. Patrick Mahomes a fantastic unicorn 100 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: right away. Yeah, he's a unicorn. He's not somebody that 101 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: you're going to say, oh, well, why aren't you up 102 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: to that standard? Like very few people who have ever 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: played this position are up to any of the standards 104 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: that Patrick Mahomes has ever hit in his career. So, yes, 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: he's a unicorn. And you have names lower on that 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: list that include some of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, 107 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: including one that won a Super Bowl with Kevin O'Connell 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: four years ago in Los Angeles. So it is a 109 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: tough thing to learn on the fly, and I think 110 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: we are seeing that in real time in a lot 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: of ways. 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: So let let me ask you this because I'm first 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 5: of all, one thousand percent in on the patients thing. 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just I've just learned. 115 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 5: Now over the last really two months, is I had 116 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 5: to recalibrate my expectations for what this team can ultimately 117 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 5: do in twenty twenty five. The injuries are a part 118 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 5: of it, but really the QB is a big part 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: of it too. And frankly, defensively, all the takeaways have 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: gone away. I mean, you just think about complimentary football. 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 5: But the instant pushback that you'll get whether you write 122 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: about these other individuals passer ratings and records and such 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: early on, is that they're all going to say Matthew 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 5: Stafford was a top pick for a hideous Lions team, 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: Jared Goff top pick hideous Rams team. You can go 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: down that road. The Bills had really been trying to 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: build something a little better defensively. 128 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: I think there were a six win team as over 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: the year, so not bottom of the. 130 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 5: Barrel wasn't until year three, actually before Josh Allen truly 131 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: lifted off right. But that instant is okay, Well, we 132 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: won fourteen games last year and we have justin Jefferson. 133 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: You cannot ever compare those two in their development paths 134 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: simply because we have number eighteen and that I've kind 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: of had a hard time putting the words together any 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: of this to noon sometimes just in general, I guess, 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 5: have trouble putting words together. But to that argument, the 138 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: idea that JJ McCarthy's development simply is either a shorter 139 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 5: arc to the finish line or an easier path to 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: the finish line simply because he has these weapons, I'm 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: having a hard time putting the words together to it. 142 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: I just don't buy that that JJ McCarthy simply by 143 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 5: nature of what's around him that he sees he magically 144 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: sees the field better than the average twenty two year old, 145 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 5: that he's instantly going to get it more quickly than 146 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: other young qbs ever did just because there happened to 147 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: be more resources around him. 148 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think a couple of things come to mind there. 149 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: The first one, I guess is when they picked JJ McCarthy, 150 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: they were not a fourteen win team. They were a 151 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: team coming off a seven and ten season that had 152 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: lost Kirk Cousins from most of that year, and they 153 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: go fourteen and three in part because Sam Darnold has 154 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: a great year. And I'm not saying that that means 155 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: all the expectations shouldn't be high in twenty five, but 156 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: like I've said, the team was leaning into the high expectation. 157 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: The team set the bar correct. 158 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is just kind of this quirky thing 159 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: because nobody last year was saying, oh, this is a 160 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: fourteen win team. They surprised everybody to do that, and 161 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 4: then you kind of become it's the old Bud Grant thing, 162 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 4: the old you know that he I think told Kevin 163 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: O'Connell right away that the joke was, hey, don't win 164 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: too fast. You set the expectations high and then it's 165 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: hard to you know, start with the bar a little lower, 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: and then they love you going forward. Obviously, that's been 167 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: kind of a back and forth for Kevin O'Connell. He 168 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 4: wins thirteen his first year, and then they slide back 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: and then it's fourteen and then this year they've already 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: lost more games than they did last year. So the 171 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: expectations have been a little bit kind of all a 172 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 4: caart in some ways, I think. So that makes it 173 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: tricky there. But the other piece of it that comes 174 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: to mind with the Justin Jefferson thing is, yes, you 175 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: have Justin Jefferson, But I think one of the things 176 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: that they talk about a lot, and they've talked about 177 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: with every quarterback that's been here, whether it's Kirk Cousins, 178 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: Nick Mullen's, the rest of the Cast of thousands and 179 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: twenty three Sam Darnold, is you also deal with the 180 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: fact that everybody plays Justin Jefferson differently than they play 181 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: most receivers in the NFL in terms of the coverage 182 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: that's getting floated his way. So, yes, you have him, 183 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 4: and yes it's sometimes just hey, don't over complicated. 184 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Throw Justin Jefferson the ball. He's better than everybody else. 185 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: But when you have to read through all those coverages 186 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: and you're a quarterback that doesn't have the reps in 187 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: the bank to say, Okay, I know how to process 188 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: through this and I can get the ball to Justin 189 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: Jefferson in these settings, it makes it more complex, I 190 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 4: think than just Hey, Justin Jefferson's there. This is idiot 191 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: proof just on the ball and let him do something. 192 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: I think there are some complexities that come because of 193 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: the way teams play. 194 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: Him well with with with the youthful nature of this 195 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: quarterback and the inexperience. Yeah, and all the targets for Jefferson, 196 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: both his touchdowns with McCarthy. Do you do you think 197 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: as they move forward like with with with McCarthy. Okay, 198 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: so there is a swivel. We've seen it when we 199 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: watch games back. Yeah, first rate, You'll do the best 200 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: he can to get through those reads, but there's still 201 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: work that needs to be done with that, right, Okay, 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: So if it's different than he thought it would be, 203 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: and maybe the pressure's hotter than he thought it would be, 204 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: do you think he's just it's not it's not a 205 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: bleep it. It's just kind of all right, well, this 206 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: whole thing broke down. I'm throwing a day team, you know, 207 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: and like in essence settling for that more than he 208 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: needs to at this stage. 209 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say. 210 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: You have to probably go back through every play to 211 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: say definitively on that, but yeah, I think it's a 212 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: lot of trying to figure your way through it and 213 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: read things, and I think the clock in general has 214 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: been a question whether it's do I stay in here 215 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 4: another click and let something open up, or do I hold? 216 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: Am I holding the ball too long? And then I'm 217 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: dealing with pressure? I mean on Sundays, certainly he was 218 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: understanding at times he needed to get out, and you 219 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: have to decide other times where he could have hung 220 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: in there and made a play down field. He certainly 221 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: trust his legs, and I think you see that quite 222 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: a bit, that he's willing to bail and make things 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 4: happen with his feet. 224 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: But except the one time, Yeah, he has one fewer 225 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: pick if he trusted his legs on that third and five, yeah, 226 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: and six and tries to beat the linebacker to the. 227 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: Right to the first down line. Yeah. 228 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: I think the general figuring out the clock in terms 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: of the coverage, how it declares the down and distance, 230 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: what my options are? 231 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: So much of this is it. It's kind of the 232 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: answer to some of this stuff as well. It depends. 233 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 4: It's like, what's the context of what's happening around me, 234 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: and how do I apply the proper decision making to 235 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: all these different contexts. I think that is part of 236 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: the reason this position takes so long to learn. Is 237 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: it takes a long time to have seen everything and 238 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: store it in a way that you can say, Okay, well, yeah, 239 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: I saw this against this team back in Week ten 240 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty five season. If he's in year four, 241 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: I think that rep may be more useful than it 242 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: is in the moment, if that makes sense. But yeah, 243 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is just so context 244 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 4: dependent that the best ones figure out, Okay, this is 245 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: the answer in this particular spot, and I can get 246 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: to it fast enough to make something happen. 247 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: But off the first four Yeah, it is reality and 248 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: fair to say, just like this side of Tom Brady. Yeah, 249 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: they all all the kids hold it too long. Yeah, 250 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: all the kids get indecisive. Yes, and it gradually comes 251 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: together for the ones who are gifted. 252 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: I think that's right. 253 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I think his I'm to throw on Sunday 254 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: was like three and a half seconds, Like that doesn't work. 255 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: That's I think was the longest in the NFL, one 256 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: of his longest of the year. That just doesn't work 257 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: in the NFL. You've got to get rid of the 258 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: ball faster than that. And I think they've stressed that. 259 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: I think he probably knows that we'll hear from him tomorrow. 260 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot of it is they hold it 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: too long because the processing speed is just not quite 262 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: there yet. We're talking about a computer from my childhood 263 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: in terms of the processing speed. We're not talking about 264 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: the new whatever ad I just got for a new 265 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: MacBook with an M five process or whatever that. 266 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 5: You're saying the kid QB's on dial up right now, Well, 267 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: there's a little bit of time. 268 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 4: I think the technological advancements come. Okay, when you get 269 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: the fastest processes here in your brain, well, he's about 270 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: to leave the Bears on red. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. 271 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: I think that just takes time to get to that 272 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: level of decision making. I mean, I can remember Kirk 273 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: Cousins at times, and this is you know, Kirk Cousins 274 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: is not the best quarterback to ever play the game, certainly, 275 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: but a guy that has done it for a long time. 276 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: Who has notebooks filled with that correct from four or 277 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: five years ago that he studies yep, and with the little. 278 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: Brain monitoring thing on his head. I mean, what a 279 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 2: carnival at his house? 280 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: Well yeah, but I mean there would be times where 281 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: you'd hear him say, well I saw this coverage and 282 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: this guy was going over here, So I know that 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: meant that one and two were not there, So I 284 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: was going to check three, three was not there. Okay, 285 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: then I'm going to four. It's like you did all 286 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: of that in two point three seconds. So I mean 287 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: that is a lot of the secret sauce of playing 288 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: this position in the NFL is being able to arrive 289 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: at those conclusions that fast. And if you don't have that, 290 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: those path rushers are going to be in your face 291 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: pretty quickly. 292 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: So in terms of helping JJ McCarthy, yeah, because there's 293 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 5: a part of this where he's got to be raised 294 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 5: on the fly. We set expectations, we got a veteran roster. 295 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: Part of those expectations, Ben was complimentary football, and I 296 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: mentioned it kind of at the beginning of this, where 297 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: you know, I'm not interested in putting arbitrary percentages on things, 298 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 5: but when I think about this team, the QB certainly 299 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 5: is the a topic. But for fans, if they can 300 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: be patient with the QB, you know, there are other 301 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: places that might draw their ire and it's the it's 302 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 5: the the lack of takeaways. It can be by the way, 303 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: forty two attempts for the kid. I think in any 304 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: situation you're going to have a hard time winning that 305 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: game too much at this stage if we can't get 306 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 5: some things going on the ground, But then the other 307 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: thing just kind of a general lack of discipline. Now, 308 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: when Ko was talking yesterday, it was clear that it 309 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 5: was on his mind because it was almost like, hey, 310 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: how you guys doing. By the way the cadence on 311 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 5: the false starts, I got to coach better. 312 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: You know, what is your vibe with that? 313 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 5: In terms of as we've looked for identity with the 314 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 5: team that has good times bad times, really at this 315 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: stage of the year, the identity is inconsistency and really 316 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: a lack of discipline around the kid QB as we're 317 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: trying to raise them on the floor, right, And I. 318 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: Don't I don't think that works because I think a 319 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: lot of this was built. I mean, yes, you wanted 320 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: to win, but it also was I know, on offense, 321 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: the vision was let's put as many veterans around him 322 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: as possible so that there's not this need to hold hands. 323 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: There's not a need to say, well, this person didn't 324 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: do their job quite the right way. So the quarterback 325 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: has to overcome that. I mean, you'll hear Kasi, Adolflaments 326 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: and Kevin O'Connell talk about but this is a quasy phrase, 327 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: overcoming context with quarterbacks where the house is burning and 328 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter because the quarterback is so good he 329 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: can make something happen. That is not what they're expecting 330 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy to do at age twenty two. Maybe in 331 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: four years or you know, two or three, whatever, but 332 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: I don't think that's happening now. So I think some 333 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: of the problem has been when you have proven players, 334 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: either on the offensive line or you know, some drop 335 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: passes at times. I think justin Jefferson, that would have 336 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: been a tough touchdown catch on Sunday between two guys, 337 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 4: but the best wide receiver in the world probably would 338 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: say he should make that catch. 339 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: It was put in a great spot, it was a 340 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: great throw. 341 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: And then defensively, at times this year it's been not 342 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: being able to stop the run. It's been the lack 343 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: of turnovers, and injuries play into some of these things. 344 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there are some moments where you say, Okay, 345 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: there are enough proven players on this team that you 346 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: would expect to execute at a little more reliable level. 347 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: They probably haven't. 348 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: And if you don't have a quarterback that's in a 349 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: position to overcome all of that, it makes it tough. 350 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: Ben Gesling, Star Tribune, Star Tribune dot Com, Standard Heating 351 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: and Air, thank you very much, Standardheating dot Com. Thank 352 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: you for the yearly sponsorship of several things, but including 353 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: the Scribe nine to noon each and every Tuesday. 354 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: To close this. 355 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: Segment and land the plane on this conversation, it's moving 356 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 3: on to the Bears. The Vikings are undefeated in the division. 357 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: The Bears are winless in the division. The Vikings found 358 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: a way to go to Ford Field and beat Jared 359 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: Goff and Jamiir Gibbs. Meanwhile, the Chicago Bears gave up 360 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: fifty two the Detroit Lions. Now that was very early 361 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: in the season, so somebody needs to overcome some form 362 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: of context. Yeah, I guess, I guess we'll figure out 363 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: how that works out Sunday and then won't. Yeah, but 364 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: how far squeeze, we're on the quasy train over here. 365 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: How how far down the road on the Bears are you? 366 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: And just if you haven't looked or read or mashed 367 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: on a lot of it yet, completely fine, it's Tuesday 368 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: games on Sunday. You're an elite football mind stream your consciousness. 369 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: What do you think of the Bears? 370 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: Well, I haven't done a ton of research on the 371 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: games in the weeks since we saw them. I haven't 372 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: done a ton of film review on them yet. It 373 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: was a lot of yesterday was looking back at McCarthy 374 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: and all the false starts and went into some of 375 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: those things. 376 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: But we got a couple of things for you then, 377 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: just cursory. Okay, Yeah, since the buye the Bears are 378 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: four and one. Their only loss was to Baltimore, not 379 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: Lamar Tyler Huntley. During those five games, they're running for 380 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: one eighty five per and it's clear there's a guy 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: alvanizing nature to a certain extent taking place between the 382 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: quarterback and the coach. With the way they I don't 383 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: care if it's bad team, bad team. They found a 384 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: way to outdo the context of games whatever however you 385 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: put it earlier, and they they learned how to win 386 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: dramatic games. And then when it comes to the teams 387 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 3: they've played this year, Nordo has what was that with 388 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: the Bears? Fifteen well, fifteen forty one one is the 389 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: collecting record. 390 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, six teams. 391 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: They beat Bengals in that comeback the Giants last week 392 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 4: when Jackson Dark gets heard. 393 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: So I mean that that's the the quick fire, quick 394 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: touch context with this six and three team. DJ Moore 395 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: has caught a touchdown, run for a touchdown, and thrown 396 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: a touchdown. So anyway, Dj Moore, we're happy for him. 397 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: What do you think? 398 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think they have started to figure 399 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: some things out. You've certainly seen more productive idiots, more 400 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 4: productivity on offense. 401 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: Between kidder productive idiots. 402 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, something there I a lot not a productive 403 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: way to phrase that word. You're out kicking the content. 404 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: Productivity is the word I was looking for. There's been 405 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: more of that with Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams. DeAndre Swift 406 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 4: has been a big factor too. I mean you see 407 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: a lot of where they're trying to mold that team 408 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 4: to look what look like what the Lions have, where 409 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: it's it's Colton Lovelin instead of Sam Laporta, it's DeAndre 410 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: Swift instead of Jamior Gibbs, it's you know, building the 411 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 4: offensive line some of the things they've done. And then 412 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 4: it's a quarterback that meshes with what Ben Johnson wants 413 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: to do Yeah. I think there's going to be probably 414 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: another stage of growth for them yet, and they probably 415 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: need to do it against some more complex defenses. But 416 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: you certainly see the growth and that's what they've been 417 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: talking about needing for a long time, specifically with Kayleb Williams. 418 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: Somebody can kind of get his ear and make it work. 419 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: But it's been noticeable progress and it'll be interesting to 420 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: see the second time around with Brian Flora is what 421 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: that looks like. Sunday solid run, run blocking okay three 422 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: two big beef East wrong tight end. Josh Oliver maybe 423 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: returning this weekend. 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You can of course 451 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: listen to it here live at FM one hundred point 452 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: three KFAM. You're at back via podcasting or x's and 453 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: o's on Wednesday nights after Bumper to Bumper or watch 454 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: it at vikings dot com. 455 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: Can we get some talkbacks for the coach by the way, 456 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: just all you got to do, name and where you're from. 457 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 458 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: We do our weekly talkback of the day if you will, 459 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 5: and we'll play one for the coach. 460 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: Yep, talk back talkback Tuesday from TCO. So we'll play 461 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: a talkback for Kevin and O'Connell probably within the next 462 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: forty five minutes. 463 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Free. 464 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: iHeart audio app microphone. You know what to do with 465 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this when when it comes to 466 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: the course of the battle. Okay, we're in the middle 467 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, at Green Bay's five to three in one, 468 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Minnesota's four and five. So there was a question posed 469 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 3: to Matt Lafleur last night after a very tightly contested 470 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: emotional loss as head coach of a five to three 471 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: and one team, and the question the question was do you. 472 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: Feel your coaching for your job? So here here's my 473 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: question to you. 474 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 3: Because we're at a lot of press conferences together, I 475 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 3: never asked questions. Yeah, what's the reason I never asked questions? 476 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: Because I'm I'm fortunate enough to have a half hour 477 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: with the head coach every Tuesday or tape pregame shows 478 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: with him and spend time with him like that. Right, 479 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 3: that's not my time, sure, but I like being at 480 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: the press conferences or listening to them because of you 481 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: and Alec and Dane and Kevin and just so Emily 482 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: and so on and so on. I just it's like, 483 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: you know, one of these Kevin O'Connell press conferences within 484 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: the last week and change, after all that wentz terrorism. 485 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's having talked to Kevin on Tuesday, there 486 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: are different questions to be had on Wednesday, and I 487 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: appreciate that. I'm just sitting back waiting for somebody to 488 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: tell me about Josh Oliver. And Emily like her right 489 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: at the end, is like, well, yeah, I mean Josh, 490 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: how's he doing? 491 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: Or however she put it. So, I saw her at 492 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 2: practice the next day. 493 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: You come up to her, put my arm around her, said, 494 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: I barely know you. I waited twenty two minutes for 495 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: a Josh Oliver question, and I just really want to 496 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: thank you for asking that. So to each their own 497 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: with how they execute your toil. Here's the question, is 498 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 3: it proper timing or is it crass to ask somebody 499 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: after a game who leads a team with a winning record. 500 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: By the way, but after an emotional game, do you 501 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: feel your coaching for your job? I think it's grand standing. 502 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 3: I think it's inappropriate at that time. Yeah, personally speaking, 503 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 3: you want to do that on a Wednesday or on 504 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: a Friday, cool? Yeah, But anyway, the individual who did it, 505 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: I felt was grand standing. What's your feeling on the timing? 506 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's probably a question. I 507 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: mean that's maybe a Monday after a game. The particular 508 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: context in that setting is useful. I think the question 509 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: is pertinent relative to Matt Lafleur because great, the Packers 510 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: have a new team president. Oh, great the Packers have 511 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: I think that team president has said I'm not giving 512 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: extensions to Matt Lafluor and Brian Gutakuntz because I want 513 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: to see what this is going to be. So the 514 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 4: topic is more relevant than it would be. 515 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: Great. 516 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know for a team that just extended 517 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: its head coaching GM this offseason. 518 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 5: Ye. 519 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: So I think that topic is going to be front 520 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: of mind for the people that cover the Packers and 521 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: a lot of veteran reporters that do that. But yeah, 522 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 4: there is that question of when do you ask it. 523 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 4: I don't know that that's one I would have gone 524 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: with right after a game. After a game, it's emotional. 525 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's kind of reacting with their first thoughts 526 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: and they haven't had time to sit down and process 527 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: and decompress in that setting. I think that's probably something 528 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 4: I would have done on a Monday, but you know, 529 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: it's or a Wednesday or a prime. 530 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a Monday or a Wednesday, because Friday is 531 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: generally all about the next one. Sunday is all about 532 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: the one that just happened. 533 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think we're in lockstor. Yeah, yeah, and 534 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: it is. 535 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: It always is tricky in some settings because you do 536 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: see times where reporters are asking questions and you can 537 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: tell it's because people know these things are live streamed, 538 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: and people know their voices are heard, and there's kinds 539 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: of ways to build your brand. I don't think that 540 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: was happening with this particular question. I think it was 541 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 4: probably because that topic is relevant to that beat, because 542 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 4: that team is dealing with it, so we can we 543 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: can decide whether Sunday Monday Wednesday Friday is the best 544 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 4: time to do it. But I you know, you do 545 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: see times where that happens in a general sense with 546 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: people asking questions that way. I think that I'm not 547 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: a big fan of that in general when you see 548 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: that happening. And again, I think this question probably is 549 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 4: from a news gathering perspective. It's just when should it happen? 550 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: That the grandstanding stuff. When I do see it, I'm 551 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 4: kind of like, Okay, I don't know that I need this. 552 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you would typically if and let's say 553 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: the guy who asked the question is writing an article. Yeah, 554 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: just new regime and such and so head coach GM, 555 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 5: it's it's not free money anymore. Now, it's like looking 556 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 5: towards the future. Maybe there's some if not now when 557 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: type of conversations with the team. So if you're writing 558 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: an article about that, you would probably maybe even plan 559 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 5: the release of that article so that you didn't have 560 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 5: to ask that question after a difficult emotional loss, so 561 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 5: you could get coach quotes and text maybe on a 562 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: Tuesday morning after a Monday night game, et cetera. So 563 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: you kind of you have some autonomy in terms of 564 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: how you can gear your content and ultimately find the 565 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: right times to ask maybe some tougher questions. 566 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there certainly are times for that. And you know 567 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: that whenever you write something, it is only fair to 568 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: have asked the person on the record about the thing 569 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: that you're writing about. 570 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of the job. 571 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: So you do have some autonomy in the sense of 572 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: I can release my story later if I want to 573 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: ask this question at a better time, or ask it, 574 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: you know, whenever the right moment to get a more 575 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 4: thoughtful answer might be. Yeah, you do have some autonomy 576 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: over that. But I think the process of if you're 577 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: writing that story, if that the plan was to write 578 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: that story after that game, you do need to ask 579 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: the question. It's not fair to write something like that 580 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: without giving the person that the story is about a 581 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 4: chance to respond and address it. That's sometimes where you 582 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: ask questions too, is say, hey, this is only fair 583 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: to put this in front of you and let you 584 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: shape it how you want. 585 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's that, that's true, and and and that's something 586 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: I overlooked. Okay, so but if if that is the 587 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: and again, I'm not you know, I'm not I'm not 588 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: trying to be woodword and Bernstein here for tend like 589 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, like I've been an editor in chief at 590 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: a major newspaper. I'm simply saying, if that is the 591 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: context of your of your gamer, well it's not a gamer, right. 592 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: And if it's a sidebar or a column, well that's different. Okay, 593 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: So now I would be required to read it to 594 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: see how it meshed together. And and you know what, 595 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: it's fair for me to say what I'm saying because of. 596 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: How wrapped up in opinions. 597 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Uh, people in our industry get with social media, and 598 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: then you can just constantly keep seeing Lafloor sucks fire fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, 599 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: fire fire, and it never stops because everybody has their 600 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: phone right in front of the face around the clock. 601 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: So if it's generated from that, well, shame on you. 602 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not something you should be using as your 603 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: assignment editor. 604 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: And we see it. 605 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: I mean, we get these questions all the time, and 606 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, you get told, hey, you need to ask this, 607 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: and you need to you need to do this because 608 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: if you don't, you're a coward, and it's like no, 609 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's that you're you're applying context that may be 610 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 4: different than what you're applying to it if you're sitting 611 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: at home watching it. So yes, if you are grabbing 612 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: your uh reading on social media and using as the 613 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: barometer for what everybody's thinking, that's probably not. 614 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: The right way to go about it. 615 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: And I'm a vocal minority of the fan base, but 616 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: I find it full hearty for people in our positions, 617 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: with those who write stories that that tens, if not 618 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands read, right, those who talk into a microphone, 619 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: you know, with whatever the crowd size is there, I 620 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: think it's unfair to chastise the fan or generally nine 621 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: out of ten times being they don't run enough. Ask 622 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, why doesn't run more? Really, that's how you 623 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: want to do it. Yeah, you want to go at 624 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: it that way, Okay, Well if you stop there, cool 625 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: because I'll stop too. But if you don't, it's well, 626 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: what situation are you talking about? What game are you 627 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: talking about? What was the offensive line? 628 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: Like CJ. 629 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: Hamplay? How many receivers were there? Where did the defense 630 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: rank against the run? How had they been doing during 631 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: that game? What was the weather? Lies at first and fifteen? Right, So, 632 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: if somebody wants to lay out context of things and 633 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: go back and forth. I love that. I don't live 634 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: for it, but I live for discussions like that where 635 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: people are well prepared, they have context and authenticity with 636 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: their emotion behind it, and I love that. But it's 637 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: just so fleeting these days. 638 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's where I would say the 639 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: value of if somebody in my seat should be is 640 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: that when a fan is saying, hey, I want to 641 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: know about this because this is bothering me, then it 642 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: is my job to say, Okay, let's look at the 643 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: context here and form a question, not to you know, 644 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: bang on the door with a pitchfork. It's to get 645 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: further insight into the head coach's thought process. And that 646 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: is one thing when you're talking to Kevin O'Connell, he 647 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: generally will tell you what his thought process was on something, 648 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: and you can decide, okay, I agree with that or 649 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 4: I don't. But I mean you know that he generally 650 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: will walk you down on a road of what he 651 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: was thinking, which I appreciate because that's that's all I 652 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 4: really want when I'm asking a question. 653 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: But in our positions, timing is everything correct. So I'm 654 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: not going to ask about a two point seven yards 655 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: per run over the course of a game and a 656 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: half at a certain time where things are hot, I'm 657 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: gonna wait for them to run quite well, and then 658 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask him, by the way, what's your philosophy 659 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to meshing the run in the past, 660 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: Like when you know it's time to run more than past, Yeah, 661 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: it's time. You know, there's so much that goes into 662 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: it that people just don't understand. 663 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: The point of the question is to get an answer 664 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: that illuminates things. 665 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: It is not to. 666 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: Make the question itself seem confrontational, cream or confrontational. It 667 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: is to elicit information that helps people understand the team 668 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: that they love a little bit better. 669 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: That's how I see it. That's beautifully laid out. Thank you, Yeah, 670 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: thanks manas good discussion. Awesome, Ben Gasoline, Start Tribune, Start 671 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: tribune dot com. 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But then 698 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: they also have a tree lot, go pick up your trees. 699 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 5: That starts at nine am on Black Friday. Oh that 700 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 5: starts then. Yeah, they have everything at Canterbury Park. 701 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 3: Guess where Ava, Stella and the most beautiful, laughing, crying 702 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: baby are going to be the week. 703 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: After Black Friday? Yeah? CB, Why to get three trees? 704 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 2: Are you seriously? Though? 705 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 5: I do it? 706 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: There's a tree there's a tree farm. I'm not gonna mention. 707 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 5: It's West Metro Southwest Metro that I've been going to 708 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 5: for years and it's kind of a fun tradition. The 709 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 5: girls and I go and then I get a handsaw. 710 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 5: Oh and you go and pick out a tree. It's awesome, 711 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 5: except beautiful Eva and Stella they always pick out the 712 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 5: tree where Dad's left, dragging it half a freaking mile 713 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 5: back to the jeeps. So if I have the ability 714 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 5: to go to Canterbury and it's a trackside tree lot 715 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 5: and I just pick one up there, I know where 716 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 5: I'm going. 717 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean I'm not gonna you know, tradition 718 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: clearly matters to you. So therefore, go to that lot 719 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: with the saw, do the drag for one or two trees. 720 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 3: But since you have four trees in your house, what 721 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: do you want to do? Do you want to attack 722 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: a day with a saw or a five hundred dollars voucher. 723 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Or something like chips in front of you? I'll take 724 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: the so just do them both. One is the one 725 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: is you and Molly. 726 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 3: It's the adult tree day, yes, and the heather is 727 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 3: the kid tree day. 728 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: With the saw. I'm a laughing, crying baby. 729 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 5: No, that's a good call, given my what I've been 730 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 5: dealing with with trees, specifically in my backyard recently. I'll 731 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 5: do the sawing in the backyard. I'll get the Christmas 732 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 5: tree at Canterbury Park. 733 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: You know what, seems like you just have so much 734 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: on your mind right now with that saw. Let's just 735 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: do it like this. San Jose's in town. While should 736 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: win again. Timberwolves handled business nicely last night. They're very 737 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: good at beating bad teams, and Chris Finch should be 738 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: joining nine to Noon relatively soon. Green Bay lost to 739 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: Philadelphia last night. Elton Jenkins got hurt, so did Elane Johnson, 740 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 3: the right tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles. Wartz professional effort 741 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 3: by the Philadelphia Eagles ramping up for December. 742 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: Nine to noon. 743 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: Did not think the quarterback for the board arrival particularly 744 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 3: well anyway. That's News de Nord provided by Canterbury Park 745 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: and Canterbury Park dot com. When we return, Kevin O'Connell, 746 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 3: head coach of the Minnesota Viking, joins us on kfan