1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: The following takes place between six pm and seven pm. 2 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You want answer 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: the truth? 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth? True, true, Alright, let's get 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: to it. RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm Lance McAllister. My first guest has been on the 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: scene in goodyear, pumping out content like you'd have to 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: read to believe. I count and read twenty one stories 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: that he wrote since last Sunday. You read him at 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Fox nineteen dot com. You get Charlie Chalkboard email to 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: you daily free through substack, and my first cup of 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: coffee this morning was enjoyed listening to the Power Stacks 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: podcast with my first guest and Brian Geesenslaw. For more 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: on all of this, let's welcome in Charlie Goldsmith. Charlie, 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: I wonder based on the time difference, I'm not sure, 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: but with everybody's still buzzing about hockey, where there are 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Reds players with eyeballs on the game yesterday morning. 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: There are multiple levels of I guess sporting event, you 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: could say. And I've watched a lot of Olympic events 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: and touch with the team over the years. But the 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: sound was on yesterday when Team USA was getting it done. 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: And I don't know that. I've honestly seen a lot 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: of sporting events in that clubhouse. I don't remember the 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: sound being on. I know the heck of the moment. 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, no doubt, no doubt, heck of a day 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: for Matt McLain yesterday, A couple of hits, hit the 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: ball the other way. I know it's just a game, 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: but man, I would think a positive day's got to 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: be a big day for Matt McClain early in spring. 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: So that's the million dollar question, maybe the lingering question 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: that'll define the season. And I always go back to 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: the fact that McLain had a terrific year in spring 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: training last year as well. I think he was their 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: best hitter in the Cactus League. So I talked to 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Terry Francona some about that yesterday, about can you actually 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: build up up confidence and how you view McLain and 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: whether or not he can hit seconds when the season 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: starts based on what you see here in spring training, 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: And the answer is, basically, we'll see, Like there is 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: no good answer. There is no headline on Matt McLean 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: right now, It's just they hope that he can build 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: up that momentum and rhythm and timing. How much to 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: read into that, you know, we probably shouldn't have last 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: year this year, we'll see, but certainly a nice two 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: nice hits the other way in his spring training debut. Start. 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: What are the storylines about this team in the offseason? 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Has been improving the defense? Leaning into their defense, Charlie, 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: what would you say to the fan out there that 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe rolls their eyes and says, well, all that's well 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: and good, But what about the errors that Ellie made 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: a shortstop. 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: When the Reds did the deep dive into their defense 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: last October. The conclusion that the coaching evaluations and that 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: the numbers told them was that Ellie's defense was suffering 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: because of his quad, just like his power. They chalk 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: that up to the quad. They felt like, even if 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: you isolate the sample size when he was healthy, that 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: he was where they wanted him to be. Now is 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: that good enough? Who knows. We'll see. There's a specific 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: plan in place that I find really interesting. Like he 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: used to be, he had to work on charging balls 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: to his left and on his throwing mechanics, Like that's done. 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: What this springs about for him is situational defense. They're 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: giving him specific situations. Bellinger's running down the line for 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: up a run. What's the timing of how you approach 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: this play? A lot of that experience stuff and how 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: you play the game has been what they've recognized is 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: something they need to drill on with him. But how 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: he does defensively, I think might impact the floor and 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: the ceiling from a consistency perspective of this team as 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: much as any other individual player development case. 72 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Let's go to the outfield slash bench. How does Dan 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Meyers fit into this roster equation in your. 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: So let's start with Friedel of course, because that's Freedole. 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: They want to get more days off than he had 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: last year. One of the flaws of the roster was 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: there were times where they just didn't have a backup 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: center fielder. And I was told on like November one, 79 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: we need centerfield depths. So obviously Benson will now be 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: in position to make the team. They go out and 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: trade for Dane Myers. Fredell might even get a bit 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: of a time and left Martal get a splash of 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: time in center. How all of these pieces moving together 84 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: will cement what Myers' role specifically looks like. He's also 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: competing for a spot with Blake dun I look at 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: it as there's one spot for a right handed backup center 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: fielder between Blake Done between Daye Myers throw ree times 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: in there. Maybe he can play center. But he's an 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: interesting guy. He'll be a fascinating got to watch this spring. 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: But Myers is the favorite to be that backup center 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: fielder because he's a true playmaker and because he is 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: a track record. 93 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Of crushing lef last two years, Cabrian Hayes has hit 94 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: two thirty four five thirty six ops. Charlie. Are they 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: making a concession that he's just a damn good glove 96 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: or do they believe there's more offense to draw out 97 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: of him? 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: This is literally the next story idea on my list. 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: It's a trade. It's a trade that I still have 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: questions about because and when I watched him, and I 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: haven't talked to Cabrian about this yet. Literally that's my 102 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: plan this week, and I'll talk to the Reds front 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: office and coaching staff as well. But when I see Cabrian, 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: I just see someone who doesn't have enough muscle to 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: do damage when he's physically in position to do damage, 106 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: not in terms of just a muscle on his body, 107 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: but just in terms of when he makes contact at 108 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: that point, like he just hasn't shown that oof And 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: that of course is the sample SASM going off from 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: last year, and I mean taking Forard, you will just 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: whatever you're seeing from him this year in spring as well. 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: They need him to hit because he's the third baseman 113 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 2: and there because south Stewart won't be playing as much third, 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: and because we love Gino, you know, we think very 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: highly of him. In the season, He's going to have 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: Geno at third base is going to be something that 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: you might not want to see a ton of this year, 118 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: just in terms of he's a thirty five year old. Yeah, 119 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: defensively the last few season. Backing up with that, what 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: I've seen in camp from Suarez, so Hayes is their 121 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: third basement. There's a plan in place. They're hoping, honestly 122 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: that a change of scenery just makes him feel more 123 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: home here than he was in Pittsburgh. But there's a 124 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: lot there and I'm interested to learn more. 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Goldsmith talking Reds Charlie's chalkboard and must read tell 126 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: me about Hunter Green expanding his repertoire. 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's funny, Like I joke with Hunter, like 128 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: every year we sit at the same table in the 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: Red Clubhouse and he tells me about the new pitch 130 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: he's working on. And you know, first there was a 131 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: change up and that never stuck that slop and it 132 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: was a splitter, which developing that splitter is truly the 133 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: difference that led to Hunter Green pitching at a not 134 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: sy Young level, but like top five cy Young level 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four before he got hurt, because it 136 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: finally gave him a tool to slow down left handed hits. 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: So Hunter also recognized that he needed kind of something 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: else to separate off that fastball to the limits of 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: the hard contact. So now he's got this two seam fastball. 140 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: And the difference, of course, obviously is it's the first 141 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: time in his career that he's ever tweaked a version 142 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: of his fastball in this way. Like obviously, a two 143 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: steamed fastball is much faster than a change for a 144 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: splitter like this will be a different look from Hunter 145 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: than anything he's ever shown, and it'll be something that 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: he'd only use that would get five to twenty five 147 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: percent of the time. But it was the thing for 148 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: him this offseason, and we've seen in the past what 149 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: a new pitch can do for Hunter. He clearly went 150 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: in the lab and said, this is exactly what I need. 151 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: And knowing Hunter, I'm sure the goal with that pitch 152 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: is to pitch deeper into games. That's probably a tool 153 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: he seems to get there. 154 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: You've had two games to observe the ABS Automated Ball 155 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Strike System. Any takeaway in two days? 156 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if this is like the football 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: in me, I feel like teams need to be taking 158 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: this like I feel like teams need an analytics guy 159 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: in the booth almost helping with challenges in baseball the 160 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: way you see in football. You know, it's Sam Francis 161 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: with the Bengals. Now. The difference is the batter has 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: to decide on their own. But for example, I thought 163 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: the Red lost the game on Saturday, not that it 164 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 2: mattered at all the results, but the game turned because 165 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: of ABS strategy because the Red lost their final challenge, 166 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: they then couldn't use one later and the Mariners had 167 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: a successful challenge that completely turned the in and so 168 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: the further I dive into this rabbit hole, the more 169 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 2: I see ways to improve your for lack of a 170 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: better static win probability added by one percent three percent 171 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: based on challenging in the right situations. Like if it's 172 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Hunter Green on the mount and it's a one to 173 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: one count and it could make it a two strike count, 174 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: I like Hunter Green with two strikes. Yes, you know, 175 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: maybe that's less important for a groundball picture like rock Burke, 176 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: like Starre hitters who were great with two strikes, stir 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: hitters who can't hit with two strikes. Like I see 178 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: all of these scenarios where if you have a sign 179 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: that can hey, keep in mind, maybe just challenge on 180 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: this plan. You know, you get that set in advance 181 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: that could set teams up for if the scenario arises. 182 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: Make sure you're using it at the most advantageous points. 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: All right, you've been all over goodyear. Can you at 184 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: this moment confirm or deny that you will be in 185 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: Indianapolis for the combine? 186 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm here this, I'm here right now. I just landed, 187 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: I just ate and I'm excited for the week. 188 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: That is fantastic. I can't wait. All right, tell everybody listening. 189 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: How can they follow? Read and watch all you have 190 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: going on. 191 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: A combine this week on Charlie's Board on Fox nineteen, 192 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: and then I'll be back in Arizona on Thursday working 193 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: on FT trunk of Brian Hayes and keep going with 194 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: Red Spring training. Is the Cactus League action gets done? 195 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: All right? 196 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Was I correct? Off the top? Because I keep track 197 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: of this stuff. I counted since last Sunday you've written 198 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty one stories, which seems humanly impossible. And not just 199 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: twenty one stories you've written, I swear like five thousand 200 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: words stories sometimes. I mean you're a machine. 201 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: You know what the big takeaway for me is from that? 202 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's nothing new, it's something you know, people 203 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: really care about the Reds and it's cool to feel 204 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: that in a way, and it's exciting to be able 205 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: to report on it. 206 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I'm always excited when you can make time. 207 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for making time tonight. Enjoy Indian and I 208 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: hope we can talk again soon. 209 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: Thanks Lance, appreciate it. 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: There you go, Charlie Goldsmith, Charlie's Truck Board, Fox nineteen 211 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: dot com or free through a substack to your email 212 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: each morning twenty one stories since last Sunday. Really, how 213 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: is that even possible? All Right, that's good. 214 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: Uh. 215 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Headline still ahead six point thirty five. Tonight will drop 216 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the puck. 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