WEBVTT - 12-3-25 Reds Hot Stove League 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.880 Welcome into the Budweiser Reds Hot Stove Leak presented by 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.719 df We are live at the bet MGM Sportsbook inside 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.120 Tom's Watch Bar at the Bank. Still plenty of good 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.080 seats if you want to come down, enjoy a little dinner, 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.480 have a cocktail, and you can even wager on some 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:21.320 of the sports. They've got hundreds of TVs. It feels like, yes, 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.439 they've got a lot. We've got a packed show today 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.160 along with jim Day, I am Tommy Throw. It's great 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.840 to be with you. Let's warm up the stove with 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.560 some snow on the ground outside. We will be visiting 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.840 with Spencer Steer a little bit later on. We also 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.040 have rhtt Louder on the show today. We would usually 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.919 start off the show with some news of what's been 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.839 going on, but there's not a whole lot that's been 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.520 going on. Just rumors starting to heat up on where 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.479 Kyle Schwarber could end up landing, but of course you 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.520 can read those all over the internet. If we have time, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.120 we may talk about what the Reds could be looking 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.960 to do at the winter meetings. Those are right on 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.560 the horizon, But Jimmy right now, not a whole lot 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.320 going on in the world of baseball. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.440 Not a whole lot of Reds news. But after the show, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.880 since we're across the street from the stadium, how would 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:08.839 you like to go have a catch? 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.280 Yeah, it's good weather for that. Yeah, with snowballs. Sure, yeah, 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:14.960 we could fire some of those around. Yeah. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.000 Yeah, how tough you are? 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:21.480 Well, not that tough, you know. I can endure some pain. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.720 Not cold. Not cold. I don't like the cold even 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:25.280 a little bit. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.360 I'm ready for some baseball weather. Let's get on with it. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.160 Let's do it. Well, let's warm up with some talk 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.759 of baseball. One guy that has been spending his fall 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.840 where it's warm. That would be Rhet Louder. Missed the 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.919 whole season Reds pitcher Rhet Louder after a great rookie 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.800 season with Sideline this year with an injury, but made 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.520 it back in time to pitch a little bit in 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.560 the Fall League. HTT, thanks so much for joining us 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.400 today on the Hot Stove League. How are you doing 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:54.840 and how you feeling right now? Well, he thought Rhett 0:01:54.920 --> 0:02:00.480 was there maybe rhtt Nope, there he is, Hello, Rhetty, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.280 Hey there he is there. There we go. Nothing like 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.920 some technical difficulties to start off the show. How you doing, man, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:06.960 how's your how's your winner? 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.000 It's filling good, can't complain. Good to be back at 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.480 home for a little bit, but kind of still on 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.960 the ground getting ready for next year. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.920 Well you you obviously missed the whole season, but you 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.120 made it back, pitched a little bit in in the 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.840 Fall League. Uh, how did how did that go? And 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.040 did you feel like you were you were pretty much 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:29.760 one hundred percent or are you're still trying to knock 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:30.560 off some of the rust. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.600 No, it's definitely good to get back in just that 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.960 game atmosphere and starting to compete a little bit. You know, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.280 it's been a while. I mean it was a full 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.720 year since my pretty much a full year to the 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.959 calendar day until I've been I mean I had a 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.880 couple of rehab starts here and there, but getting deep 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.600 into games and getting the pitch count up. It's been 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.160 the first time in a while, so you know, I 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.600 felt good, body felt good, and I think by the 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.200 time I left and was done, I was in a 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.080 good spot to where I felt confident where my body 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.320 was at, and then I was ready to compete next year. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.840 Oblique type injuries are some of the hardest to get over, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.040 and you can't rush them. I've been around a lot 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.080 of guys that have had the injury, and after you 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.840 sustained it, it looked like it even affected you walking, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.079 which was kind of weird. They listed this as one 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.960 of the more severe ones. What was it like when 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.120 it initially happened. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.400 Yeah, at first, I would probably say two weeks after 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.160 it was it was pretty tough. I mean, you know, 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.880 it was definitely the second the way I was walking 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.920 and kind of just felt pretty stuck in one spot. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.920 You know, how to move pretty slow, and it took 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.200 it took a while, but you know, once I got 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:42.680 out the Arizona and it's kind of starting to be 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.440 able to move a little bit, we got we got 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.120 to work pretty hard, but yeah, you kind of have 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.880 to let it run its course and just be patient. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.280 Now, when this thing first popped up, if I remember, right, uh, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.800 you kind of felt it for a while before it 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.800 got bad. Did you have any idea this thing was 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.360 going to all into the severity to where it would 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:03.960 cause you to miss the entire season? 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:10.080 Definitely not. Yeah, I mean there was a couple signs prior, 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.280 but it was just weird things that I didn't really 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:17.200 connect like in some of my reab starts. I would 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.320 just after I would just get really sore my back, 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.360 not even in the oblique area, and just the back 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.279 would get really tight, and you know, once I stretched 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:26.880 out pretty good, it just took me a while to 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.039 get loose. I was fine, but I kept just finding 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.960 myself just getting really sore back there pretty much stay 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.720 in and day out, and it was a little off, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.360 but never a concern. I was always able to get 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.960 out and pitch, and then it kind of just eventually 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.240 went that one that one day in Louivio. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.880 Would you say that all that is behind you in 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.480 your one right now? 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.880 Yeah, No, I feel I'm lucky to be at a 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.000 point right now where the oblique is not really even 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.159 in in my head when I'm going out there and 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.520 throwing and doing what I need to do. So that's 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.840 a pretty encouraging feeling, and I feel pretty normal and 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.200 I have no complaints. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.159 I always think that one of the biggest obstacles getting 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:07.960 over an injury is kind of what you talked about 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.720 right there, the mental side of it and being able 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:15.440 to trust it. If nothing else did your your rehab 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.480 outings in the minor leagues and even your your starts 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.280 in the fall league kind of allow you to put 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.880 that completely to rest, to where you don't even have 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.080 to think about it now moving forward. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.640 Yeah, definitely. I mean I had a rehab start at 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.080 the back end in Louisville, and you know, that was 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.880 a good initial test to kind of see where I 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.240 was at and it felt good. And then I had 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.680 a couple outings and instructs prepping for theirs on a 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.240 fall league, and you know, once I kind of got 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.240 through those, I was like, all right, I can trust 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.520 this thing and get after it. Just going into the 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.080 fall league, just trying to get back into that compete 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.240 mode some of those valuable reps I missed throughout the year, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.840 So just getting into different situations was kind of all 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.640 I cared about. Carried about there and just knowing that 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:58.760 my body was gonna hold up. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.560 You were able to compete physically, But did you do 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:08.120 any learning by observing? Even being around your guy Chase Burns, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.360 who was in the learning process and I you you 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.560 guys were in spring training together a lot. What do 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.680 you think you've learned over this process? 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.680 I mean, I've learned a ton from just watching the 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.480 guy's play still and trying to take notes on just 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.240 the game and also just about my body and how 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.160 to take care of it. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.000 So it's good. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.240 I said it multiple times with different people that you 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.800 never want to get hurt, but getting hurt earlier in 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.240 my career like this, it kind of taught me a 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.560 good routine that I'm going to carry on throughout the 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.360 rest of my career. So there's definitely some positive things 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.119 to take away from this. And yeah, definitely watching Chase. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.440 I mean, it was fun to watch him this year 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.640 and and it was awesome to see him evolve into 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.599 a couple of different roles and really just do whatever 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.479 the team needed to and that's awesome. So it was 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.080 fun to watch him and forward to getting back working 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:01.440 with them. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.720 You obviously ramped up late in the year and going 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.080 in it is like we've talked about the Fall League, 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.880 but now it's the off season, so you're fully healthy. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.960 Now do you treat it like a normal off season 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.640 or because you didn't pitch much last year, you maybe 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.680 do a little bit more throwing than normal. How do 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.520 you how do you treat this off season and especially 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.280 now that you're fully healthy, how do you approach it. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.040 Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to get as ready 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.880 as I can for spring training. I'm gonna get out 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:35.080 to Arizona, maybe a couple of weeks before before pitcher 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.720 and catcher report date, just to get hands on with 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.320 some of our staff and just get ready. But I 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.120 would say it's pretty normal that there's just a lot 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.520 of stuff that I learned throughout the year that I'm 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.400 bringing into this off season that has kind of helped 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:49.960 me out a lot. So, I mean it looks a 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.200 little bit different than all seasons in the past. I've 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.440 got a lot more work to do, but you know, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:56.920 I'm still my main goal is to prep and be 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.119 as ready as I can for when spring training comes. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.400 Where are you with refining your repertoire And for those 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.160 that don't know, if you can just tell them that 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.200 the pitches that you throw and what do you think 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.560 you need to do to improve each? 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.840 Yeah, So I throw two different fastballs out there, a 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:18.120 sinker forcing also change up and slider. So I mean 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.520 the shapes and everything felt normal, if not better in 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.400 the Fall League than what I previously had. So below 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.400 ticked up just the hair on the average, nothing crazy, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.880 but just happy with where I was at, So I 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.120 think the main thing that I need is just getting 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.280 back to the pitch calling side is something I was 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.760 like really in tune with at the back end of 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.760 that would have been the twenty four season. So that's 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.880 something I really missing that time, something I need reps 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.520 back with, and I do it all the time in 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.160 my head, just watching games back, trying to see what 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.880 I would throw here, what I would throw here, and 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.480 then you know, just getting creative with different placements. You know, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.280 there's some pitches that I have to throw the area 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.400 if you don't see it. Ton of pitches okay, like 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.520 the back door breaking ball and the back foot breaking 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.160 ball are the front hip sinker to a lefty. There's 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.040 just some ways I can get creative, and I just 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.640 need to be able when those pitches are called. I 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.199 need to be able to execute them at high rate. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.960 You made six starts during that twenty twenty four season, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.680 you only gave up four runs. You had a one 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.559 point one seven ERA, and your rookie year, you strikeout 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.960 to walk numbers were good. So when you look at 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.959 what you did in that first season, you obviously had 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.559 a lot of momentum. How do you build off that. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:38.120 And you know so often pitchers will talk about getting 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.640 reaction from the hitters and getting feedback from the hitters. Well, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.320 the hitters didn't do a whole lot off of you. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.640 So so what were you able to learn from your 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.360 little taste of the big leagues there in twenty twenty 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.080 four to move forward? And you know you talk about 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.040 pitch shapes and location, but were you able to learn 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.400 much from from what the hitters told you that first year? 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.760 Oh? Definitely, ton it was. It was more so like 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.640 obviously the hitters. My main goal with attacking hitters is 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.960 just to get him off the barrel. I get some 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.880 swinging mess but that's not what I rely on. I'm 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.560 trying to get the guy out as fast as possible, 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.360 get him out of the box as quick as possible, 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.840 and and just the defense at the big league level, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.680 and some of our guys play a special brand of defense, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.800 so it's just nice trust in those guys. And I'm 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.080 really just trying to get the ball on the ground 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.200 or off the barrel and week at some of our 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.719 guys so we can get back in the dugout and 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:32.599 try to score some runs. So I'm trying to be 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.720 out in the fields as little amount of time as possible. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.760 Had you not been injured, I think you firmly would 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:44.040 have been in the rotation this past year. Gonna be 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.000 a little bit of competition now, it's it's a good 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.800 problem to have. The starting pitching staff is the strength 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.199 of this organization right now. How are you looking at 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.640 going into some competition in spring training? 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.959 Yeah, now, I think that's a good thing to have. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.400 Within the team, everybody's competing and pushing, pushing each other 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.000 be better. But honestly, it's just I don't want to 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.840 do anything I can't help the team, and just getting 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.560 back on the field and competing and trying to be 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.319 my best version whatever that may be. Wherever it is 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.040 however I'm used, it doesn't matter to me. I'm just 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.400 looking forward to being back in the clubhouse with the 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.680 guys on the field, just trying to be my best 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.480 version of myself. And I think we're just lucky to 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.400 be in a spot where we have so many talented arms, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.680 especially in the in the rotation. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.760 You kind of talked about watching film and things like that. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.079 So for you, what is your process of trying to 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.079 get better? I mean, is it is it spending a 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.920 lot of time in the film room, or do you 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.760 get more out of the actual bullpens that you throw 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.160 flat work? What for you? What is your process to 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.800 try to make those incremental improvements. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:55.839 Yeah, everything's important. How you do it all is kind 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.720 of really important. You can't ease up in anyone area. 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.040 It really depends on the time of the year too. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.120 So like obviously this time of the year, you're you're 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.160 getting your body in shape and you're trying to build 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.080 up those reps and bulletproof yourself. And yeah, you still 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.760 break down some film and look at some stuff now, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.280 but obviously when you're in season, do you want to 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.000 break down, You're gonna spend more time on the iPad 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.760 looking at film rather than in the in the weight 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.480 room trying to add as much strength as you can. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.640 But you know, everything's important. I would say as you 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.839 get deeper into the season, some of your bullpens kind 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.040 of turn into fine tuning what you already have. I mean, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.000 it's some guys do it, but it's tough to go 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.160 out there and just invent a new pitch and and 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.040 throw it in in the middle of a in the 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.679 middle of the season. But I mean, guys do it. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.760 It's not impossible. I'm just you know, just your focus 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.839 is a little bit different. So I would say it's 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.760 all important and and you can't. There's time and place 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.160 for all, but you just have to be intentional whenever 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:53.960 it's that time. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.920 Well, Ratt certainly appreciate the time. Glad to hear you're 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.240 healthy and can't wait to see you back on the 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.040 mound this spring. Yeah, thank you, guys, All right, thanks. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.160 That is Rhet Louder joining us on the Budweiser reds 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.920 Hot Stove lee big leg hair right there. Yeah, oh yeah, 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.120 we need to see that back on a big league 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:12.480 count yep, big league hair. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.520 But I love watching him pitch and I love how 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.120 he said, I want to get guys out as quickly 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.080 as I can and rely on the defense and not 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.200 rely on the swing and miss. You need swing a 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.080 miss at times, obviously in situations. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.760 But I love that answer. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.559 I like the way he goes about it. I mean, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.480 this is a guy that love watching him. Right when 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.160 he got to the big leagues, you knew that he 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.240 was different, and it's because of that you induce weak 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.920 contact when you get guys out early in the count. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.480 Go deeper in the game through less Bitch. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.000 Absolutely hellajah, Oh my goodness. Can't wait to see him 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.640 back on the mound. He was sorely missed last year, 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.080 so that is rhet louder. We've got more to come 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.760 on this edition of the Budweiser reds Hot Stove Lee 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.000 Gold Glove finalists Spencer Steer will be joining us a 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.360 little bit later on in the show. 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Registrations are open now at 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.800 reds dot com slash Poker. I'm hoping Jimmy that my 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.960 voice hangs on for the rest of the show. It's struggling, but. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.920 Sure you're not the only one of these parts that 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.360 are struggling right now. 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.000 No, probably not. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.360 I mean, we'd like to complain about Winner a lot, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:06.800 you know, because we're just a complaining society. However, this 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.040 is a little early, don't you think, for the snow. Yeah, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.720 for the cold, it's set a record, so yeah, i'd 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.040 say it's atally yeah, yeah. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.040 Little early. Wasn't quite ready for it. Although I will 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.080 say this, if it's going to be cold, it may 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.880 as well snow because I don't mind the snow. I 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.960 don't like the cold. So if it's going to be cold, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.560 bring on the snow. We got it, so uh. Anyway, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.600 it was great talking with Red Louder and one of 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.800 the things that we talked about when we had him 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.680 on was the crowded rotation and the fact that there 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.800 is as things sit right now unless there's unless something 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:46.680 changes between now in March, I guess February there's going 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.560 to be a battle for the rotation. Now, there's obviously 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.080 some openings in the bullpen. But but Jim, I don't 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.120 know that I necessarily see any of these rotation options 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:56.800 moving to the bullpen right now. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.680 Well, you've got to have some depth, and unfortunately someone's 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.160 always the odd. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.840 Man out and goes to triple A. Those that have. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.840 Options that you can do so, so it's gonna be interesting. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.680 I mean, as we sit here now, it's it's Hunter Green, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:17.240 it's Andrew Rabbit, it's Lodolo, it's Chase Burns most likely, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.160 although we saw him in the bullpen a little bit, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.160 that could be an option. I don't know I would 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.280 keep him as a starter. You have Brady Singer who 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.880 eats inting. So as we sit here now with no 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.160 moves being made or one of those guys being traded away, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.920 where does a guy like Rhet Louder fit? Are you 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.520 gonna have open competition? Is it gonna be between louder 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.880 and Chase Burns? Would you flirt with one of those 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.880 guys in the bullpen? Who's gonna be your Triple A depth? 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:42.560 Now? 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.600 The good news is are gonna get some guys back 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.600 from injury that could serve as as depth. Brandon Williamson, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.680 we talked about him a little bit last week before 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.480 he got injured. He was really showing signs what's he 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.840 gonna do coming back from major injury unknown. Aggie Aar 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:02.120 is coming back who served as some depth. They re 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.919 signed Carson Spires to a minor league deal. He's been 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.280 a depth guy. So it's gonna be very very interesting. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.440 And along the Chase Petty could be in that mix 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.080 as well. He's obviously got some He's gonna need to 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.760 make some strides to be in that mix. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:18.280 So we'll see. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.159 It's gonna be very very interesting. It should be a 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.000 strength of the team once again. And the old adage, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.960 it starts with starting pitching, and it's good place to start. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.080 They got a good group. We've heard Tito say it before. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.879 When you think you have too much starting pitching, go 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.320 ahead and go out and get some more. The thing 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.040 about when when you talk about some of those guys 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.040 and see I think Aggieyar is one of those candidates 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.160 that would be a perfect Nick Martinez type of guy. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.560 He can start when you need him to, but you 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.399 can also move into the bullpen and he'd probably be 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.240 a pretty good option of the bullpen. With regards to 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.040 the Chase Burns, he proved last year that he needs 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.040 to still learn another pitch. Yeah, he's got some progress 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.159 to make now. Look, he's got an electric arm. But 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.760 I think you kind of use that maybe a little 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.200 bit as an incentive for him to try to push 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.520 him to get to a point where he's got another 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.080 pitch and another weapon to make him a quality starter. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.320 If he doesn't show you that he's got that in 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.040 spring training, maybe that does open the door for a. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.720 Guy like he's got no hitter type stuff. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:12.840 Oh he's got. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.840 So it's you know, you kind of just let that grow. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.800 So we're back with Spencer Steer when the Butdweiser reds 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.320 Hot Stove League presented by u DF Live from the 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.760 bed MGM Sports Book inside Tom's Watch Bar at the 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:45.200 Banks continues next on the REDS Radio Network. Welcome back 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.000 in with the Budweiser Red Hot Stove League presented by 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.600 u d F. We are well, we're rocking. We are 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.560 live at the bed MGM Sports Book inside Tom's Watch 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.160 Bar at the Banks with Jim Day. I'm Tommy throw 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.360 Out Producer Engineer David at the Arm Bruce and Joe 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.119 Waddell is running the dials back in our network headquarters. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.120 Thanks to those guys for their hard work, We've got 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.960 another great guest for it talking Reds Baseball for the 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.120 next half hour. And this guy a first base Gold 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.159 Glove finalist this year, Spencer Steer, one of the leaders 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.320