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Speaker 3: Four after three? We're actually starting the show on time today.

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Speaker 3: to be on the show in fifteen minutes. The Miami RedHawks,

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Speaker 3: I think, to no in surprise qualified for the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 2: Win more games.

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Speaker 3: The criteria as much as we could talk about metrics

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Speaker 3: What's it like when you're talking to a team in

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Speaker 10: We have to get to learn from it, own it,

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Speaker 10: Well, I think Mark, there's a lot of close games, right,

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Speaker 1: And then so I'm like, tournament if.

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Speaker 3: So you know, last night, six twenty whatever it was,

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Speaker 10: You know, I've watched six fool games here since since

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Speaker 10: I guess that's when we have to prepare that way.

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Speaker 10: Just trying to dissect to come up with a game

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Speaker 10: Obviously we are who we are, it's more about But

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Speaker 10: So again we know the him and season and have

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Speaker 3: You're a qualifyed to answer this question having been a

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Speaker 10: Well, when I was at Indiana University, MO, we'd have

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously now.

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Speaker 2: I love hearing those old stories.

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Speaker 3: I love hearing those old stories about you know, trying

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Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, it's it's special for our fans. I mean,

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Speaker 10: It's gonna be sold out, It'll be a home game

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Speaker 1: It's so when I.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the year long. I'm sure year twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of limping.

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Speaker 10: Into the n SO Double as we didn't know if

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Speaker 1: Better than the Elite.

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Speaker 10: Eights, better than the sixteens, because those buildings are so

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Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be a lot of fun. Man.

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Speaker 1: We're really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Need a better result than twenty fourteen. That's all I

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Speaker 1: Okay, we do we do this funny Chris Mac back

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Speaker 10: Mac mavertext and back and forth, and he said, he

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Speaker 1: Against in DC.

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Speaker 3: I remember it well, rooting for a better result on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I know you have a thousand things going on, so

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Speaker 3: I can't thank you enough for doing this. Congratulations, and

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Speaker 3: we'll do it against SOM Coach, thanks so much, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having me ONBO you got a Travis Deel head

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Speaker 3: basketball news. Former Xavier and Ohio State head coach bad

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Speaker 3: and three, twenty five away from five o'clock. A few

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Speaker 3: interesting Reds items the spring of Matt McClain has continued.

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Speaker 3: What's happening with Chase Burns though I think is right

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Speaker 3: now at the top of mind of most where the

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Speaker 3: Reds have decided to sort of deload Chase Burns, if

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Speaker 3: you will. So he was made a start on Friday,

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Speaker 3: spring training start and they pulled him after just twenty

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Speaker 3: four pitches because they don't like his range of motion

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Speaker 3: with his throwing arm.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: It seems perhaps unlikely that he is going to start

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Speaker 3: the season in the starting rotation, and one might argue

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Speaker 3: that it's unlikely that he starts the season on the

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Speaker 3: opening day roster. See Trent Rosecrans of the Athletic did

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Speaker 3: his latest opening day roster projection and did not have

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Speaker 3: Chase Burns on it. Now, this may be fine. Brandon

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Speaker 3: Williamson has had a nice spring. There's certainly a lot

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Speaker 3: to like about Rhet Louder. We've talked a lot about

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Speaker 3: Red's starting rotation depth, and the likelihood is the Reds

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Speaker 3: are going to need more than just five and that's

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Speaker 3: not even factoring in Hunter Green's injury issue. But the

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Speaker 3: Chase Burns thing I think is going to be worth

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Speaker 3: following and paying attention to. Not because not because Chase

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Speaker 3: Burns can't help this team this year, but you do

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Speaker 3: wonder if there's a range of motion issue, does that

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Speaker 3: suggest that there's something medically that's going to bubble to

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Speaker 3: the surface at some point in the coming weeks, And

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Speaker 3: you certainly hope that the answer is no. But like,

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Speaker 3: let's be honest, when you see at this stage of

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Speaker 3: spring training we are going to ratchet back the workload

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and then there's a range of motion

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Speaker 3: problem that the Reds have seen. Like good for them

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Speaker 3: for maybe nipping it in the bud, but you can't help.

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Speaker 3: But wonder why is there a range of motion issue

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Speaker 3: and why do they feel the need to quote deload

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Speaker 3: him with opening day less than two weeks away. That's

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Speaker 3: worth paying attention to. Also, whenever you read anything about

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Speaker 3: Noel v Marte from Tito Francona. The endorsements of his

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Speaker 3: defense and right field aren't exactly ringing, and like this

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Speaker 3: is a storyline. Noelve Marte was shoved into right field

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Speaker 3: last year with no prior professional baseball experience at that position.

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Speaker 3: Now he did make I was gonna say arguably, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's arguably the catch of the year

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Speaker 3: for the Reds in that last home game against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: that they badly had to have and that they nearly

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Speaker 3: coughed up and might have if not for a great

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Speaker 3: Noelle ve Marte catch, an iconic moment of that season.

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Speaker 3: But he's not a train right fielder, and he has

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Speaker 3: struggled with routes to the ball angles that sort of

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Speaker 3: stuff that's worth paying attention to. The other thing that

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Speaker 3: is worth paying attention to. And you know, nobody makes

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Speaker 3: a big deal or too big of a deal, or

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Speaker 3: should they over spring training results. Matt McClain hit his

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Speaker 3: sixth spring training home run yesterday, and nobody is guaranteeing

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Speaker 3: that his numbers are going to look like they look

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Speaker 3: right now in Arizona. That would be almost impossible. But

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Speaker 3: I think he used a Cactus league to look for

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Speaker 3: signs and with Matt McClain, you're simply looking for a

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Speaker 3: sign can this guy.

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Speaker 2: Live up to his importance.

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Speaker 3: The importance of this guy to this team cannot be overstated.

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Speaker 3: He is supposed to be the two hole hitter. Red's

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Speaker 3: two hole production last year was atrocious. He is supposed

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Speaker 3: to be the everyday second basement. Not that he's not

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Speaker 3: going to get some work and a short stop, but

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Speaker 3: he's supposed to be the everyday second basement. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe he's going to put up all star caliber numbers.

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Speaker 3: But this whole thing about well, Matt McClain twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three was their best player. The idea since then has

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Speaker 3: been for him to make a leap, and now the

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Speaker 3: idea is for him to not go through a repeat

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Speaker 3: of what we saw last year. And maybe you attribute

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Speaker 3: what he went through last year to injuries, not playing

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Speaker 3: at all in twenty twenty four, whatever it was. So

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Speaker 3: what you're looking for this spring are signs that suggest

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Speaker 3: he's put all of those issues, whether they're physical, mental,

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Speaker 3: or approach based behind him. That's a really good sign.

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Speaker 3: And now we're talking about him being back in the

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Speaker 3: two spot and if the Reds two hole production is

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Speaker 3: better and they get the pop from the middle of

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Speaker 3: the order that I feel like they're counting on, then

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Speaker 3: maybe this offense can can take off just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But the Chase Burns thing is is worth monitoring, keeping

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Speaker 3: an eye on. By the way, I think most would

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Speaker 3: have wagered against him not being on the roster on

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Speaker 3: opening day, and now that feels like a plausible outcome.

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that he can help the team

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that it can have a really, really

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Speaker 3: good season this coming season. But I don't know, man,

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Speaker 3: it's worth, It's worth keeping a somewhat skeptical eye on.

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Speaker 3: The World Baseball Classic has been thoroughly entertaining, and I

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Speaker 3: will admit to you, like this time of year World

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Speaker 3: Baseball Classic versus you know, end of season college hoops.

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Speaker 3: I'm more into the end of season college hoops. But

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Speaker 3: I think, like most people I know, I've watched more

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Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic games this season, and I've paid closer

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Speaker 3: attention to the tournament than in any other year. Last night,

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Speaker 3: you had this extraordinarily entertaining and tense, high stakes semi

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Speaker 3: final game played in front of an awesome crowd that

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00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: was very much pro Dominican in Miami. A great game

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Speaker 3: with great defense, interesting strategy, two really good lineups being

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Speaker 3: held in Bay and unfortunately the last pitch a called

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Speaker 3: strike thrown from Mason Miller to a Heraldo Perdomo that

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Speaker 3: should have been called a ball, that was called a

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Speaker 3: game ending strike three. The United States wins, they advance

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Speaker 3: to the final. They'll play either Venezuela or Italy. Now

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Speaker 3: I do understand why the ABS is not being used

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Speaker 3: in the World Baseball Classic, because it's it takes a

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Speaker 3: lot of effort to calibrate the ABS based on the

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Speaker 3: physical dimensions of all the players involved. And there's twenty

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Speaker 3: teams in this tournament. A lot of guys like I

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Speaker 3: get it. At the same time, you're playing meaningless spring

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Speaker 3: training games that utilize ABS, and in this event, the

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Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic, which through a lot of hard work

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Speaker 3: you've built to be must watch for anybody who cares

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Speaker 3: about baseball, You've got this system being used in spring

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Speaker 3: training games and it can't be can't be implemented in

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Speaker 3: time for the World Baseball Classic. But what's a shame

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Speaker 3: about it is? And I'm for the most part the

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Speaker 3: anti replay guy, But if we have to have play.

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Speaker 3: I think the ABS system is more than acceptable. It's

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Speaker 3: not very intrusive. Not going to see it on a

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Speaker 3: pitch in and pitch out, you know, recurrence during the season.

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Speaker 3: But what you hate about that game last night is

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Speaker 3: the takeaway from the game last night is the game

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Speaker 3: shouldn't have ended on a pitch that was called a strike.

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Speaker 3: That shouldn't have been called a strike.

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Speaker 2: Bummer.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that's not the case tonight. Hopefully that's not a case,

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Speaker 3: not the case in the final. We had some really

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Speaker 3: awesome stuff last week Friday, we were on. We got

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Speaker 3: on about four forty, but Chad Brendle was all over

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Speaker 3: the West Miller stuff, Terry Nelson as well. If you

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Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app. Also spent some time on Bengals

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen now at linebacker. We're still wondering

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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen, if anything, at linebacker. But you could

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Speaker 3: Can I get a team? No no, no, no no no

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Speaker 3: will get to the Holy Grail in time for our

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Speaker 3: show that starts at ten o'clock. So make sure you

654
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 3: get your team. They're drawn at random. You could trade

655
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Speaker 3: one team for another. If somebody else has a team

656
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Speaker 3: you won, they're willing to do business with you. But

657
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Speaker 3: that's how it's gonna work. We'll see you on Wednesday morning.

658
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Speaker 3: Show goes on at ten, takes you up to Sincy

659
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Speaker 3: three sixty at noon. We are looking forward to it.

660
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Speaker 3: Paul Dayner Junior is going to join us in just

661
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Speaker 3: about twelve minutes. A week ago at this time, we

662
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Speaker 3: were wondering what's going to happen at linebacker, And right

663
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: now it feels like what's going to happen at linebacker

664
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Speaker 3: is a heavy doubling down on Barreck Carter and Demetrius Night.

665
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Speaker 3: Now they could attack linebacker in the draft. There are

666
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Speaker 3: still some players out there they could go get. But

667
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Speaker 3: let's be honest. When free agency started, I think most

668
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: of us expected some activity at that position. Maybe it

669
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Speaker 3: wasn't going to involve a guy at the top of

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Speaker 3: the list, but it was going to involve them doing something.

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Speaker 2: Over the last week, they've.

672
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Speaker 3: Done nothing, and it has felt like their interest in

673
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Speaker 3: some of the players that a lot of us thought

674
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Speaker 3: were going to be really good fits was not proportionate

675
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Speaker 3: to our interest in those players. And so now what

676
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Speaker 3: Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight, Now, what you're gonna hear

677
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Speaker 3: a lot is well, toward the end of the season,

678
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Speaker 3: those guys played better.

679
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Speaker 2: And they did.

680
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Speaker 3: And toward the end of the season, those guys played

681
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Speaker 3: well enough to make you feel like, Okay, maybe there's

682
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Speaker 3: something to salvage there. But I don't think any one

683
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Speaker 3: of us watched those players and said to ourselves, you

684
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: know what, they're good there. They don't need guidance from

685
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Speaker 3: a veteran player, they don't need an infusion of leadership

686
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: of even talent at that position. They're good there. What

687
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 3: it feels like they've done. And this is maybe unfair,

688
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: maybe it's an oversimplification, but last season they looked at

689
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Speaker 3: that defense from the year before, and it felt like

690
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: they put a little bit too much stock in the

691
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Speaker 3: fact that that defense top to bottom played better toward

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Speaker 3: the end of the twenty twenty four season. And by

693
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Speaker 3: the way, it did in large part because they were

694
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Speaker 3: going up against bad quarterbacks or backup quarterbacks. But yes,

695
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Speaker 3: toward the end of the twenty twenty four season, the

696
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Speaker 3: Bengals defense did play better. Yet at the end of

697
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Speaker 3: that season, most of us thought they're going to go

698
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Speaker 3: and upgrade the defense. What did they not do upgrade

699
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Speaker 3: the defense?

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Speaker 2: Why?

701
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Speaker 3: Well, because toward the end of the season it showed

702
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Speaker 3: some good signs. So right now, and all I can

703
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: do is react to what's happened to this point, Maybe

704
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: things will change. I certainly hope they do change. But

705
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Speaker 3: right now, it's Carter, It's night, and it's us leaning

706
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Speaker 3: into the idea that those guys are going to be

707
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Speaker 3: better this coming season because they performed at least a

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Speaker 3: little bit better, showed some encouraging signs toward the end

709
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Speaker 3: of this past season. That is a strategy of hope,

710
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Speaker 3: which is exactly the strategy that I think most of

711
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Speaker 3: us agreed we didn't like when it came to the

712
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Speaker 3: defense as a whole last season. It's a perilous approach,

713
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Speaker 3: a dangerous approach. Now again, man, there's none of us

714
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Speaker 3: who should give up on either of those two players.

715
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: There's a long, long, illustrious list of players who struggled

716
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Speaker 3: as rookies across different positions, across different teams, hell, across

717
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: different sports, long list of players who as pros for

718
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: the first time struggled. Maybe it was the speed of

719
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 3: the game, maybe it wasn't quite grasping the system, whatever

720
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Speaker 3: it was, and then ultimately they ended up having good careers.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that happens with Carter and Knight. It would be

722
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: awesome for this team if it would happen with both.

723
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Speaker 3: Worst case, that's going to happen with one. But doesn't

724
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Speaker 3: it feel like a dangerous, shaky approach at that position

725
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Speaker 3: to just kind of double down on two players who

726
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: last season struggled as much as those two guys did. Again,

727
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Speaker 3: it's nobody's saying cut those guys. But I thought we

728
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Speaker 3: all agreed when the season ended. And when I say we,

729
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: we as fans agreed at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Linebacker is not a position that they could ignore. By

731
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Speaker 3: the way, a week ago, at this time, I don't

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Speaker 3: recall anybody while a lot of us were going, hey man,

733
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Speaker 3: it's cool they signed Mafey and Cook, Now what's happening

734
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Speaker 3: at linebacker, I don't recall anybody raising their hand going, actually,

735
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Speaker 3: I think they're okay at linebacker, and yet to this point,

736
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Speaker 3: to this point, it feels like they are. And I

737
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Speaker 3: keep using the term perilous approach. That does feel like

738
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Speaker 3: a really perilous approach, and it may work, and if

739
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: it does, Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor will get the

740
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Speaker 3: credit they deserve. But for me, at least you could

741
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Speaker 3: tell me if you disagree. It feels like at one

742
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Speaker 3: position a similar strategy to what they did with the

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Speaker 3: entire defense between the twenty twenty four and the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five season. And we all know how the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five seat he's in play. Now we'll have a

746
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Speaker 3: poll question on this coming up here in just a

747
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Speaker 3: bit at Moegar thanks to United Heartland Insurance. Paul Danner

748
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Speaker 3: Junior has a very good piece, which by the way,

749
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Speaker 3: is free today, sort of him kind of outlining things

750
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Speaker 3: that he thinks may happen next based on what's happened

751
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Speaker 3: so far. We'll get to Paul. He's going to join

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Speaker 3: us coming up at four oh five. My name is Mowgar.

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Speaker 3: Glad you're with us today on a snowy, yes, snowy

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Speaker 3: Monday afternoon, four minutes away from four o'clock. This is

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 9: Jackson Hewitt has a great taxes PN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's sports.

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Speaker 2: Any There you go. Four oh four.

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Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Mowegor. Thanks so much

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Speaker 3: for listening today. Hopefully you're having a nice, warm Monday.

760
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: And I say warm because it's kind of rough outside.

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Speaker 2: You know this, I hope you do.

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Speaker 3: Typically on Tuesdays, we're joined in studio by Paul Danner

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Speaker 3: Junior from the Athletic in the Growler Podcast. I'm off tomorrow,

764
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Speaker 3: but because there's just been so much news and there's

765
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Speaker 3: so much stuff to talk about as it relates to

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. I did not want to leak let a

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Speaker 3: week come and go without spending a few minutes with Paul,

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Speaker 3: and so he was kind enough to adjust his schedule

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Speaker 3: and join me. Though it's not in studio, it's second best.

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Speaker 3: He's on the phone and he's with us. Now.

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Speaker 2: Hi Paul, Hi Mo.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing I'm doing well. It's awesome to have you.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Paul has written a good sort of

775
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Speaker 3: encapsulation of the week that has been in free agency,

776
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Speaker 3: what he's learned, what he's heard, maybe some conclusions that

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Speaker 3: you might draw. So go read that at the Athletic

778
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Speaker 3: dot com. And if you missed any of the live

779
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: free agency shows from the Growler podcast, you can go

780
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: watch those on YouTube or listen to them, as we say,

781
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: where you get your podcasts. It's remarkable to me that

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Speaker 3: in the last week, really the last week, from where

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Speaker 3: we were ago a week at this time, how much

784
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Speaker 3: the tone has changed because we've stopped talking about who

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Speaker 3: they've got, and a lot of us are focusing more

786
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Speaker 3: on what they haven't done and who they haven't gotten.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, it was a nice little start right.

788
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Speaker 13: I mean, it start off just right, but I think

789
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Speaker 13: we all recognized that it needed to be more than that,

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Speaker 13: and that you didn't want to have a couple of

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Speaker 13: realities that really were part of what doomed last year.

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Speaker 13: That you didn't want to feel like you sacrifice depths

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Speaker 13: because you just didn't add enough. You didn't want to

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Speaker 13: feel pigeonholed maybe in the draft at certain spots to

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Speaker 13: try to find starters. You didn't want to feel forced

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Speaker 13: to maybe play rookies in bigger roles than you'd like.

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Speaker 13: But all of that sort of came by not kind

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Speaker 13: of I guess, totally doing the job and free agency

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Speaker 13: specifically obviously on defense last year. Well, you're kind of

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Speaker 13: saying those things again, there's a lot of if they're

801
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Speaker 13: just felt like if you would have checked a couple

802
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Speaker 13: of more boxes, then you could sit here and say,

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Speaker 13: all right, you feel like this is a feels like

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Speaker 13: a very complete team, one that you don't feel pressured

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Speaker 13: to do anything with, or you know you could you

806
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Speaker 13: could take one of your top picks as maybe involved

807
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Speaker 13: rather than maybe multiple having to come in and immediately

808
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Speaker 13: play large roles like we saw last year, and you

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Speaker 13: just can't really say that. And in terms of significant

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Speaker 13: additions in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Those are done what they haven't done at linebacker. First

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Speaker 3: of all, how much money would you have wagered six

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Speaker 3: days ago when you were here in studio that you

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Speaker 3: and I would be talking today without them signing a linebacker.

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Speaker 13: I would not be wagering on the Bengals. That's unethical

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Speaker 13: and illegal for me. Mo, well, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I would not want you to do anything illegal or unethical.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 13: I mean, look, yes, we I like to try to

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Speaker 13: take people at their word.

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Speaker 1: I like to believe what I'm.

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Speaker 13: Told, specifically from people that.

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Speaker 1: Have no reason to lie to me.

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Speaker 13: And I feel like we heard from enough people saying

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Speaker 13: it loudly enough in Indianapolis that it suggested they had

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Speaker 13: a target and a thing that they wanted to accomplish

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Speaker 13: in free agency, and that was adding a linebacker, adding

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Speaker 13: leadership to those two young guys to help them develop,

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Speaker 13: to add a combo linebacker on the outside, so Dimitrius

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Speaker 13: Knight doesn't have to be doing that as much. It

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Speaker 13: sounded like something they were very clearly going after. And yeah,

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Speaker 13: that's when they say that.

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Speaker 1: My thought is they're going to do that right that?

835
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Speaker 1: Why why else would they say that?

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Speaker 13: And so for it to then come away is certainly

837
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Speaker 13: the biggest surprise of free agency. And you know whatever,

838
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Speaker 13: maybe it ended up down their their priority board, and

839
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Speaker 13: we can discuss why that should or shouldn't happen, but

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Speaker 13: like I would not have suspected that it would have

841
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Speaker 13: gone completely unchecked in terms of any kind of a

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Speaker 13: real addition.

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Speaker 3: What's the biggest reason for this? Is it simply they

844
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Speaker 3: believe in Carter and Knight. They believe the growing paints

845
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Speaker 3: from last year are going to pay off. Did they

846
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Speaker 3: simply not believe that some of the dudes that we

847
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Speaker 3: talked about in the run up the free agency were

848
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Speaker 3: good fits? Were their efforts that just didn't pan out? Like,

849
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Speaker 3: what's the main reason why we are here where we

850
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Speaker 3: are at Linebacker?

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Speaker 13: I think the main reason is that they valued pass

852
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 13: rush first, and they ended up spending what they spent there.

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Speaker 13: They did not use advantageous.

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Speaker 14: Structures or restructures.

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Speaker 13: Or any of those things with some of their contracts

856
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Speaker 13: that they made to give themselves space to sort of

857
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Speaker 13: value and have felt what they felt like to be

858
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Speaker 13: enough room to add more than that. I think they're

859
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 13: kind of old school mentality and kind of refusal to

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Speaker 13: use some of the the levers that we've talked about,

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Speaker 13: whether you're talking about year one pat pits or you're

862
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 13: talking about guarantees or void years or all of that stuff.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think cost them a couple of players.

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Speaker 13: It cost them comfortable room to operate the way that

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Speaker 13: they do to go to that next level. I think

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Speaker 13: the value for them of some of those guys that

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Speaker 13: they liked in the linebacker area went higher than they

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Speaker 13: were comfortable with, and they wanted to focus on Cook

869
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Speaker 13: and Mafe or basically a safety and a pass rusher first,

870
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Speaker 13: and then whenever they had left, they would figure out

871
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Speaker 13: a way to distribute and they used it in a

872
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Speaker 13: significant amount of money on thirty one year old Jonathan Allen,

873
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Speaker 13: and I think that just fell down their list of

874
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Speaker 13: priorities and they feel like they're.

875
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Speaker 1: Out of space with that. Now.

876
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Speaker 3: Is there anybody out there who at that position would

877
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Speaker 3: make sense both in terms of what they would bring

878
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Speaker 3: to the field and how it would work financially.

879
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 13: You're you're looking at smaller deals at this point. That

880
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 13: what I think their approach right now is what we saw.

881
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 13: You're in the Dalton Reisner Noah fant Uh. Lucas Patrick was, Uh,

882
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 13: if you think about where we were at with Guard

883
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 13: last year, it was going to the combine, coming assuming

884
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 13: going to the owners meetings and they had just signed

885
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 13: Lucas Patrick and he was like, it was like, well,

886
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Speaker 13: he's we signed him a couple of weeks after a

887
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 13: free agency for about a million dollars, but he's going

888
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 13: to start right like it was. That was that's kind

889
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 13: of where that I think they're looking to find those

890
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Speaker 13: guys that would be near a league minimum or a

891
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 13: low salary that could come in and help there There

892
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Speaker 13: are names out there. I mean, this is how you

893
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Speaker 13: end up with the this year's Orrin Burke's or whoever

894
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 13: that ends up being. It's just it's not if you're

895
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Speaker 13: looking for Bobby Wagner to come through that door. If

896
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Speaker 13: you're looking for, you know, a couple of the other

897
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Speaker 13: guys that maybe would demand a little bit higher number

898
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Speaker 13: to come out right now, that's just that's not where

899
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Speaker 13: they're at and so.

900
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Speaker 2: They're not going to be coming.

901
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Speaker 13: But there could be somebody that ends up being a

902
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 13: low cost guy that turns out to be a good fit,

903
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 13: and maybe he is this year's Dalton Reisner of defense,

904
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Speaker 13: but you know, it's obviously a substantial and substantial risk.

905
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Speaker 3: I feel like, as we've talked about, and obviously there's

906
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Speaker 3: still a long time to go, but I feel like,

907
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Speaker 3: as we've talked about the way the draft may unfold,

908
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Speaker 3: at least for me with the tenth overall pick, the

909
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Speaker 3: one position we haven't talked about nearly enough is corner.

910
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Speaker 3: Should that start to change immediately?

911
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's it's it's really it's fascinating on a number

912
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 13: of levels because, for one, you know, we Jalen Davis

913
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Speaker 13: is a great story. It's fantastic what he did last year.

914
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Speaker 13: He's a guy that spent a lot of the last.

915
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Speaker 2: Couple of years on the practice squad.

916
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Speaker 13: And they so they really kind of don't have a

917
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Speaker 13: nickel at least if you're at the very least you

918
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Speaker 13: are drafting with the expectation at whoever you draft is

919
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 13: going to be playing over top of him, which means

920
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Speaker 13: you have a rookie in the lineup. They don't have

921
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Speaker 13: anybody really as a fourth corner technically, the outside backup,

922
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Speaker 13: a single outside backup that you would feel really comfortable

923
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 13: with right now now, vast area that, yeah, you could

924
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Speaker 13: plug in, you know, for the sake of knowing who

925
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Speaker 13: we're talking about. Cam Taylor Britt for example, is out

926
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Speaker 13: there or they are you know, four or five other

927
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Speaker 13: guys like him that could be a veteran a lower

928
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Speaker 13: number that you could plug in. But they don't want

929
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Speaker 13: to stop that right now. They just have DJ and

930
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Speaker 13: they have decks. And also, you know, this is a

931
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Speaker 13: thing where you're talking about extension negotiations that are going

932
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Speaker 13: to begin for Dacks and DJ. I mean, they've sort

933
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Speaker 13: of been ongoing, but really once the draft happens, between

934
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 13: the draft and camp is when you'll really start to

935
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Speaker 13: see those fire up as they normally do at a

936
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Speaker 13: pre standard timeframe with this team and their extensions. What

937
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Speaker 13: happens there, you know, when what's the impact of terms

938
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Speaker 13: of if they they could bring that could absolutely be

939
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Speaker 13: the position that they take A ten. You could be

940
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Speaker 13: getting the top corner in this draft right there, and

941
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Speaker 13: what does that mean for those negotiations, how they get used?

942
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Speaker 13: Would you then reopen yourself to Dax moving inside? If

943
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Speaker 13: number ten is an outside corner, there's a lot of

944
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Speaker 13: dominoes that still have to fall at that position that

945
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Speaker 13: it just feels very wide open and unstable to me

946
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Speaker 13: right now, despite the fact that has maybe the defense's

947
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Speaker 13: two strongest pillars involved.

948
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Speaker 2: I live with this fear.

949
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Speaker 3: Paul Danner Junior from The Athletic and the Growler podcast

950
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Speaker 3: is with this. I live with this fear that because

951
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: they signed to Orlando Brown for two more years, and

952
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Speaker 3: at face value, I do understand and why they did

953
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Speaker 3: what they did, but there's this fear that I have

954
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Speaker 3: that because they signed to Orlando Brown for two years

955
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Speaker 3: beyond what he was already under contract for, that they're

956
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Speaker 3: not going to take a tackle, and that the tackle

957
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Speaker 3: they don't take in a couple of years, I'm going

958
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Speaker 3: to look back on a go that's the guy they

959
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Speaker 3: should have taken, but we had to sign up for

960
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Speaker 3: two more years of Orlando Brown.

961
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Speaker 13: Discuss well to start, it's it's technically kind of one.

962
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's really it's really kind of.

963
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 13: A team option in that I think it allows them

964
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Speaker 13: to not feel forced into taking a tackle because they

965
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Speaker 13: have to think immediately about what twenty twenty seven looks

966
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Speaker 13: like without him under contract at all. It gives a

967
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Speaker 13: little bit more security to Orlando, a guy that they

968
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Speaker 13: feel like is kind of part of the core of

969
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Speaker 13: the chemistry there and you know, the momentum that they've

970
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Speaker 13: built with all that continuity up there. So it's that

971
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Speaker 13: kind of works both ways. But yeah, I do think

972
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Speaker 13: it takes takes the tackle at ten overall off the

973
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Speaker 13: table right now.

974
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Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a.

975
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 13: Little bit of an investment in what they believe Orlando

976
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Speaker 13: was last year despite a lot of his efficiency numbers

977
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Speaker 13: being down and what they think he can still do.

978
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Speaker 13: But I you know, yeah, I think you're gonna I

979
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Speaker 13: think you're gonna look at that and say, there's a

980
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 13: lot of nervousness over how he plays. We just don't know,

981
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 13: like you, you don't know if what you saw last

982
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 13: year is the start of a decline or just a

983
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 13: circumstantial death because he had a rookie and a lot

984
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 13: of change happening next to him. I think we see

985
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 13: what their bet is. But yeah, they still need to

986
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Speaker 13: start thinking about that position because they still don't have really.

987
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: A backup for either of those guys. I mean less,

988
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: we're trusting what he's ford.

989
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 13: So again, another position that you would have said Okay,

990
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 13: that makes sense if you would have seen a swing

991
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 13: tackled it signed up in free agency, and maybe that's

992
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 13: a position that we see at a smaller deal pop up

993
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 13: here in the next week or so, somebody who can

994
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 13: be maybe a backup there.

995
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 10: But yeah, it's it's it's.

996
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 13: Certainly still on the radar, but it just offers a

997
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 13: little bit. It takes a little bit of that urgency

998
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 13: to immediately think about less tackle off the table. I

999
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 13: think that's the advantage from a Bengals perspective.

1000
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: I think around the area a lot of folks today

1001
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: are a little bit more focused, maybe on their NCAA

1002
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: tournament bracket. But for me, I'm diving into the pool

1003
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: that I've created here, which is to nail down the dates,

1004
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: specifically that we find out that Joe Flacco has resigned

1005
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Speaker 3: with the Bengals.

1006
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm picking. I think I'm picking June eighteenth.

1007
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: June.

1008
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna give it to I'm gonna go I'm

1009
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: gonna go a while here.

1010
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I was gonna say longer. I feel like

1011
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 13: he I think that can I can I take the

1012
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 13: opening maybe the first.

1013
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 8: Week of camp.

1014
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Speaker 13: Okay, you know, all right, I don't know, I'm curious.

1015
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 13: I think there's you know, from Joe's perspective. To me,

1016
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 13: it's gonna be a matter of does he want to

1017
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 13: wait through camp and see if something happens right, if

1018
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 13: some if a quarterback gets hurt or or whatever, who

1019
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 13: knows what happens, and wait for maybe a position that

1020
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 13: doesn't appear open to come out in a desperate team

1021
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 13: needs somebody. Or is he just gonna see that all

1022
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 13: the obvious spots are gone to compete to play and

1023
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 13: just say, you know what, I'll just go and be

1024
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 13: Burro's backup. She doesn't have to race to do anything.

1025
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 13: So to me and I and I was sort of

1026
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 13: explaining this in my story today, is like that, that's

1027
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 13: the beauty of Josh Johnson. Don't get you as far

1028
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 13: as you need to go right.

1029
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: He knows everything.

1030
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 13: He knows everything you could possibly need to know. And

1031
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 13: he went out there and played two games last year

1032
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 13: and they won one of them for Washington. And he's

1033
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 13: a guy that's gonna know exactly how to handle everything.

1034
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 13: He's not gonna be offended by being a cut or

1035
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Speaker 13: picked up or anything.

1036
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Speaker 1: Right.

1037
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 13: He's a solid guy to.

1038
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Speaker 8: Have in the room.

1039
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 13: But the moment you maybe really need somebody. And if

1040
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 13: Flacco is still out there, he's the whaty He just

1041
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 13: steps aside. He's just sort of there until Flacco decides

1042
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 13: to say yes. Whether that's in July, whether that's in

1043
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 13: on June eighteenth, as you said, but it's in August.

1044
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 13: At some point Joe will want to make a decision,

1045
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 13: and the Bengals want to be there ready to go,

1046
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 13: but still have an operational backup quarterback situation.

1047
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 2: Getting them through the offseason makes sense.

1048
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Speaker 3: I'll read, I'll readjust I'll come up with a deadline

1049
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: by which everybody's going to have their final date. But

1050
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Speaker 3: Dom this is, this is gonna be the little game

1051
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: we play to entertain me throughout the course of the

1052
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: next next few months. I appreciate it as always. I'll

1053
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Speaker 3: miss you tomorrow, but we'll see you next week.

1054
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Speaker 1: All right, have a good one.

1055
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Speaker 3: See that's our guy, Paul Danner Junior at the Athletic

1056
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Speaker 3: dot Com and The Growler Podcast. Nineteen after four o'clock,

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Speaker 3: I do think it is completely reasonable to look at

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Speaker 3: during since he three to sixty that I never want

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Speaker 3: to hear the Bengals be accused of being cheap again

1084
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Speaker 3: if you look at what they've done financially and how

1085
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Speaker 3: they frontloaded some money for Boye Mafe and Brian Cook.

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00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, you've got a quarterback who's raising his hand, going, hey,

1087
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: you want to restructure, let's do it, and they all

1088
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 3: but refuse. I just their approach at linebacker may prove

1089
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: to be the correct one, and it may work out

1090
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: with the guys they had last year, but oh boy,

1091
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: there's no insurance policy right now in the event of

1092
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Carter and Knight playing the way they did last season.

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00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: And I think most of us looked at the offseason

1094
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: and said, man, at that position, you could find some players,

1095
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: good players, players who can contribute. But the ancillary benefit

1096
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 3: is the two linebackers, who struggled so much as rookies,

1097
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: could attach themselves to that guy and learn from them,

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00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: and maybe it accelerates their development. And they haven't done

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00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: any of that, And like all you can do as

1100
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: a fan is react to what's happened. Maybe you believe

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00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: the Bengals deserve the benefit of the doubt when it

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Speaker 3: comes to know their own guys and their evaluations of

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00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: their own guys, or hey, they'll figure it out this offseason.

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00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that after last year they deserve that

1105
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt. And by the way, this criticism

1106
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: of what they've done at linebacker is independent of I

1107
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: think whatever you might want to say about the players

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00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: they've acquired. There's actually a big part of me that

1109
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: likes the Jonathan Allen acquisition because it's a little bit

1110
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: of the antithesis of what they've done at linebacker.

1111
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: Now.

1112
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: The difference is Chris Knight was drafted two years ago.

1113
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: Chris Knight, Chris Jenkinson was drafted two years ago, and

1114
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: Barrett Carter and Demetrius Night were drafted last year. But

1115
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: they effectively probably had to overpay, but they effectively signed

1116
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: another version of BJ Hill. That is okay, but you

1117
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: have to do that because you can't count on Chris Jenkins. Meanwhile,

1118
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: at linebacker, they're going to count on two guys who

1119
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: are a big part of the reason why they struggled

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: so much on defense last season. It is an interesting approach,

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00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: and that's putting it gently. Jed de Muci, formerly a

1122
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: Channel twelve, is our unofficial Miami guy he's going to

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Speaker 3: join us in seven minutes. Miami fans don't like Bruce Pearl.

1124
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl on the Selection Show was still making the

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Speaker 3: case for Auburn. His son coach Auburn. Nepotism was a

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Speaker 3: factor that was admitted by Bruce Pearl himself. I guess

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: it's been revealed that Bruce is still on the Auburn payroll,

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Speaker 3: which would only bother me if, well, if Jay Wright

1129
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: wasn't on Villanova's payroll while he was working for CBS,

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00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: and if in the NFL we have an active owner

1131
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: calling games and we have a I and Troy Aikman

1132
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: who's advising the Miami Dolphins. Like conflicts of interest like

1133
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: him or not are just such a deeply baked in

1134
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: part of sports and sports broadcasting that I just I

1135
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: sort of shrugged my shoulders. I don't agree with what

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00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearls had to say about Miami and Auburn, and

1137
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: I do think he's coming from a place where he's

1138
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: not being very objective. But you know what, to have

1139
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: somebody on TV around the signature event of that sport

1140
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: is not a bad thing. Like, I just I don't

1141
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: know that there's that many college basketball voices now that

1142
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: really moved the meter. For years, Billy Packer was the

1143
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: color analyst on CBS. He's the guy who called like

1144
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: a billion consecutive final fours and could be prickly, and

1145
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: it's just that guy never seemed like he was able

1146
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: to laugh or have fun with anything. But he was

1147
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 3: willing to state an opinion, and he was willing to

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00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: kind of defy the consensus. And I feel like, not

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01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: in a way where he's manufacturing takes like a lot

1150
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: of people on TV do, but he was kind of

1151
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: willing to be the villain, famously so with Saint Jose

1152
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: in two thousand and four when he was aghast over

1153
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: the fact that they got a one seed with just

1154
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: one loss playing in the Atlantic ten. I do think

1155
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: there's something refreshing in that sport having somebody who's willing

1156
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: to be a contrarian, be a villain, say things that

1157
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: most aren't going to agree with, and folks are gonna mention.

1158
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl, I guess has dipped his foot into politics.

1159
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't care less about that. I'm frankly so oblivious

1160
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: to much of that, and willfully so that, and blissfully

1161
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: so that that's not a factor. I just I like

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Speaker 3: I do like to watch people on television who will

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Speaker 3: give opinions that don't necessarily mesh with the consensus, and

1164
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: who are willing to be the villain. I think that's healthy.

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01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: We had it for decades with Billy Packer. I'm not

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01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: really sure in that sport in particular, we've had it

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01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: with anybody since. We have it with Bruce Pearl. And

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Speaker 3: as much as I'd probably disagree with most of the

1169
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: stuff that he has to say, certainly as it relates

1170
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Speaker 3: to Miami, I do think having somebody like that is refreshing.

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Speaker 3: Jed Demusi is refreshing. He joins us to take a

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Speaker 3: Miami victory lap and more.

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: On Moeger, we dubbed our friend Jed de Muci, our

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01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 3: official Miami RedHawks guy very early in conference play, when

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Speaker 3: it looked like perhaps the Seeds had been planted for

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Speaker 3: a special season, And as it turned out, it was

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Speaker 3: a special season in Oxford, undefeated during the regular season

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Speaker 3: and they made the NCAA tournamental play on Wednesday against

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Speaker 3: smu at ud Arena.

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01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: Jed formerly of Local twelve.

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: You know, he did his Local twelve exit interview with us,

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01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 3: which was kind of him, and now he's here to

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Speaker 3: I think, take a bit of a victory lap of sorts, Hi, Jed.

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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: What's going on? Though?

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Speaker 15: The direct deposit for my last appearance was incredibly generous.

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Speaker 15: I didn't know that being Miami's official spokesperson came with that.

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01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 15: I'd like to forego that this time, but happy to

1201
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 15: happy to be on with you, and yeah, man, it

1202
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 15: is a victory Lap. You know I heard you with

1203
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 15: Travis just now and or earlier in your show. I

1204
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 15: cannot believe if you would have told me after last

1205
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 15: year's collapse in the MAC title game that this year

1206
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 15: we would not win the MAC title again but somehow

1207
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 15: make the tournament, I wouldn't have believed you. And I

1208
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 15: mean seriously, like it's crazy that for the first time

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 15: since nineteen ninety nine that a team from the MAC

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 15: without winning the conference tournament is in. And I remember

1211
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 15: joining you earlier this year and I said, we've got

1212
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 15: to be playing our best basketball so that we can

1213
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Speaker 15: win the MAC Tournament. And for this team to make

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Speaker 15: the tournament, to get in without winning the MAC Tournament,

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Speaker 15: I think is just a credit to Travis Steel, to

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Speaker 15: everybody involved, and it is a victory Lap today.

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Speaker 3: Between early Thursday and yesterday at six fifteen, did you

1218
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: feel any unease at any point?

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 15: I didn't because I felt like the the if if

1221
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 15: something would have happened where we would have lost to

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01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 15: OU at the end of the year, I'm saying we.

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Speaker 8: I apologize just.

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01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: You're just going to have to be okay.

1225
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 15: But if something would have happened in that OU game,

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Speaker 15: or really any of those games to lose in the

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 15: regular season. I would have been scared after the loss

1228
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Speaker 15: to UMass, but it just seems like everybody was saying,

1229
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 15: you have to put them in. I've never seen Dutch

1230
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 15: a groundswell of support saying. It just seemed like every

1231
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 15: single person minus a couple of people, but the overwhelming

1232
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 15: support for them to get in the tournament was just

1233
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 15: really had me comp and that that that they were

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 15: going to make it.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 3: What was that Friday night when they played that game

1237
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: in Athens against Ohio?

1238
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: Like for you, I.

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 15: Actually ended up watching it with my boss. He's also

1240
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 15: in Miami grad but does not watch. He is not

1241
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 15: he has not been as invested as I have. And

1242
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 15: every every five minutes he said, has every game been

1243
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 15: like this? Like I didn't even I don't even know

1244
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 15: what like they need to be? And I was just

1245
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 15: sitting there sort of like, oh my gosh. You know,

1246
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 15: I didn't have to explain to him the rules of basketball,

1247
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 15: but he certainly was not aware that we were living

1248
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 15: and dying with every game, with every possession there towards

1249
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 15: towards the end of the stretch there. So that was, Uh,

1250
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 15: that was a pretty critical game, and you know, we

1251
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 15: wouldn't have had it any other way. And what a

1252
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 15: finish to cap off, you know, a regular season. And

1253
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 15: to be in the history books the way that we

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 15: are now forever is something to be very proud of.

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Speaker 3: I went up to Oxford to the game in late

1256
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: January when they played UMass and it was the momentum,

1257
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: the momentum among fans and among the university community was

1258
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: just starting the snowball. And I remember it was a

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 3: nine o'clock game. So I get up there a little

1260
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Speaker 3: bit after eight o'clock. And I'm not going to pretend

1261
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: that I've been to a billion games at Mallett Hall,

1262
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: but typically you drive up, you park, you walk, no

1263
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: big deal. And I remember going like, there's a lot

1264
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: of folks here, and that paled in comparison, I think

1265
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: to some of the crowds the RedHawks enjoyed later in

1266
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 3: the season. So what was it like from your perspective

1267
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: watching the university community come alive and rally around this team.

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Speaker 15: Well, just from a local, you know, obviously being an

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Speaker 15: alum and being an alum of Cincinnati Sports Television, I

1270
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 15: think from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one when I

1271
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 15: worked at Local twelve. I think I was in Mallet

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 15: Hall in a professional capacity twice, and that may and

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 15: that may have been more than any of the other

1274
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 15: three stations combined, and rightfully so rightfully so, there was

1275
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 15: no reason to be up there. I mean, it was bad.

1276
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 15: We were in a very very bad space. Now I

1277
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 15: see all this stuff on Twitter and I'm watching all

1278
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 15: these I mean, You've got Joe and Jeremy at the

1279
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 15: same game, which is normally coverage that they reserve for

1280
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 15: Bengals and Reds or whatever. You've got Charlie Clifford, who's

1281
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 15: an alum on Channel five. He's at Brick Street with

1282
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 15: Wally Zerbiak, Yanni at Channel twelve sitting down at the

1283
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 15: waffle house with Travis Steele. I mean, and Caleb knows

1284
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 15: creative storytelling. I need to take a drama meme before

1285
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 15: I watch his stuff. He's all over the place, He's

1286
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 15: got every monitor at Channel nine. His storytelling has been fantastic.

1287
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 15: I mean, it's a race now locally to cover Miami

1288
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 15: as best as possible, which is just mind boggling, to

1289
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 15: say nothing of the national coverage. I mean, it's just

1290
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 15: been beyond belief, which you know people are saying, Oh,

1291
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 15: I can't believe. You know, they didn't get in the

1292
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 15: field of sixty four. They've got a play in game.

1293
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 15: But taking a wider look at this, what this team

1294
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 15: has been able to do this year needs to be appreciated,

1295
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 15: not when it's over, but right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've said this to him. You know, I thought

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Speaker 3: I thought Travis handled himself very well toward the end

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Speaker 3: of Xavier And I remember when he when he got

1299
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Speaker 3: hired in Oxford. We had him on that day and

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: Xavier had just won the NI T and he could

1301
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: not have been, you know, more classy. He could not

1302
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: have handled himself in the face of what was you know,

1303
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 3: professional for lack of a better way of putting in failure,

1304
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: I thought he exhibited a masterclass and kind of had

1305
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 3: to handle that and that that stood out to me.

1306
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 3: He's an easy guy to root for. What have you

1307
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 3: come to like about him now that he is the

1308
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 3: head coach at your alma mater?

1309
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 15: We know it's funny going back to his opening presser,

1310
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 15: you can go look this up on YouTube. The first

1311
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 15: question he got as the head coach of Miami at

1312
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 15: the opening presser was a kid who played on the

1313
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 15: Miami Hamilton basketball team, basically asking for a scholarship, and

1314
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 15: Travis handled it really well. He said, well, you know,

1315
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 15: it's the debt period. I can't talk to you, but

1316
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 15: that had to be a what did I just sign

1317
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 15: up for? Moments that he's being petitioned by a kid

1318
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 15: at a branch campus. You know, you go from the

1319
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 15: Big East to now this team, and he's talked about

1320
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 15: it before that, the crowd that he's had at Malette

1321
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 15: when he started, it's so many what did I just

1322
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 15: walk into moments? And for him to walk beyond that

1323
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 15: to a place where I mean, I'll go back to it.

1324
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 15: I can't. You know, they talked, you know, for lack

1325
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 15: of a better term, than the sports nerds of the world,

1326
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 15: the Darren Ravelt types talk about earned media, the idea

1327
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 15: that you know, basically the you would have to pay

1328
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 15: in advertising for the free media that you've been given.

1329
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 15: I don't even know how you calculate that. From Miami

1330
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 15: this year, I really don't know. For the basketball team

1331
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 15: to think that Scott Van Pelta is doing two minutes

1332
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 15: of highlights and then talking to Travis after the game

1333
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 15: that's more than local stations and they don't have the

1334
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 15: time to do that. So for him to reap the

1335
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 15: rewards of seeing it through it reminds me a lot

1336
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 15: of what Chuck Martin walked into when he started when

1337
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 15: at Miami the football program was in a very very

1338
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 15: rough place. And to see him reap those rewards and

1339
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 15: to see two guys who are not only incredible coaches

1340
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 15: but incredible men lead the program and you know, lead

1341
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 15: the football and basketball program, it's been incredible And I

1342
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 15: admire Travis. He says no to any.

1343
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 13: Interview he's on with everybody, Yes.

1344
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 15: And he just wants to get it out there as

1345
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 15: frequently as he possibly can, and it's it's it's hard

1346
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 15: not to admire.

1347
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 2: Do you think they will beat SMU?

1348
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 15: Yeah? Yeah, I do strictly on vibes alone. I mean,

1349
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 15: you know, Andy Enfield had his had the SMU coach,

1350
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 15: had his run with Florida Gulf Coast, He's had his

1351
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 15: time in the in the sun. To be the to

1352
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 15: be the team that kind of pops up out of nowhere,

1353
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 15: I couldn't tell. Somebody told me we actually there has

1354
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 15: been a Twitter group thread that has started just Miami people,

1355
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 15: and it's like twenty or thirty people on Twitter, and

1356
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 15: people just throw stuff out there. Somebody was putting together

1357
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 15: scouting reports your SMU today and that's the first I've

1358
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 15: even I don't know a single player on their team.

1359
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 15: I know a guard is hurt, and I know they've

1360
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 15: got a seven to two guy who's huge, who some

1361
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 15: people in the group thread thinks looks like Betty All

1362
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 15: from UMATS. We're like, oh my gosh, it's a bigger

1363
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 15: Betty All. But other than that, I don't know too

1364
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 15: much about him. I know Enfield as a coach.

1365
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 12: He's a great coach.

1366
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 15: I'm sure they're a great team. I don't think you

1367
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 15: could draw it up any better for Miami to pull

1368
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 15: this off. I know they're going to be the underdogs,

1369
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 15: but man, I'm just excited to watch on Wednesday night

1370
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 15: the facto home game for this team, and I'm excited

1371
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 15: for them to move on.

1372
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: How many Twitter fights with outsiders have you engaged in

1373
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: and how many have you decided to not engage in.

1374
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 8: I've used a.

1375
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 15: Mute button more frequently in the last week or two

1376
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 15: weeks than I probably ever have on Twitter. I never

1377
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 15: back down from a fight but I have I have

1378
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 15: back down from a few. There were some acrons fans,

1379
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 15: and there were some bracketologists out there that were just

1380
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 15: kind of getting under getting under my skin. And and

1381
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 15: I think you jumped in on one, which which I

1382
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 15: really appreciated, somebody giving me a breather. But you know,

1383
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 15: it's a two big league, Miami is going to be

1384
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 15: left out, and a lot.

1385
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: Of that never made any sense. That never made any sense.

1386
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 15: No, no, no, it made very little, very little sense.

1387
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 15: And yeah, there there have been, uh, there have been

1388
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 15: some some Twitter fights that maybe I shouldn't have engaged in.

1389
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 15: But again, it's it's just been an incredible, incredible season,

1390
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 15: one that you could not have sat me down and

1391
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 15: told me was gonna happen at at this point, you

1392
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 15: know a year ago, nobody could have predicted it.

1393
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's been fun to sort of live vicariously

1394
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: through you. It's really been fun to watch, you know,

1395
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: the Miami community come alive and uh and sort of

1396
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 3: carry the banner if you will, for for area college basketball,

1397
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: because it's been it's been not such a great season

1398
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: obviously for for other schools, including the ones that I

1399
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: root for.

1400
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 2: So I'm rooting for you guys on Wednesday.

1401
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 15: Can't can't forget the women's team as well, make a tournament. Yes,

1402
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 15: congratulations to them for the first time, I believe since

1403
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 15: two thousand and eight. So basketball is happening, and in

1404
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 15: a few years there's gonna be a brand new arena

1405
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 15: for it to happen in. I mean, everything is just

1406
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 15: trending up. It's been amazing.

1407
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 3: And and Miami is still the only school with a

1408
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 3: synchronized figure skating team because I only know that because

1409
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 3: I flew in the same flight as them two weeks ago.

1410
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: So that was that was a thrill for me.

1411
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 15: Synchronized skating team, US President, super Bowl winning quarterback. Wow,

1412
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 15: I think that's the only the only school with all three.

1413
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 15: I'm pretty sure.

1414
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 3: All Right, well, I'll let you claim the Super Bowl

1415
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 3: winning quarterback. Enjoy Wednesday, man, Thank you as always.

1416
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: Thanks, you're the best. It's Jed de Musi.

1417
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: It really has been Look man, I'm a Cincinnati fan

1418
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 3: and a Dayton grad. It's been fun watching the Miami

1419
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 3: community come alive because from a men's basketball perspective, and

1420
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 3: that's that's no slight to what the women's team has

1421
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: accomplished them I'm glad you had mentioned that, but it's

1422
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 3: been it's been a a dormant program for a very

1423
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: long time and anything but and they deserve to be

1424
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: in the tournament.

1425
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,799
Speaker 2: I'm glad they're in, and I hope they beat SMU.

1426
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 8: On Wednesday, our.

1427
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: Guy Hunter Sansom's going to join us at five twenty.

1428
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: We'll try to squeeze some phone calls in between now

1429
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,240
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01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 3: By the way, we have a mark Polk Show coming

1444
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 3: up at six o'clock. Kentucky getting set for its first

1445
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Speaker 3: round matchup against Santa Clara.

1446
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: Mark Pope at six o'clock.

1447
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 3: There you go, big reason for you to stick around

1448
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 3: on here the head coach of the Wildcats coming up

1449
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: in fifty five minutes from right now. We'll see how

1450
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 3: our bracketologist, the Tri States bracketologist, Hunter Sandsum, how he

1451
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 3: feels the committee did. There wasn't a ton of complaining Miami.

1452
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: It was interesting for all the for all the talk

1453
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: in recent weeks of you know, are the Red Hawks

1454
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 3: gonna make it if they lose in the mac Tournament

1455
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: and finish undefeated, it felt oddly any claimactic yesterday Now

1456
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 3: there were good discussions to be had about whether or

1457
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: not they were going to be safely enough in the

1458
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: field to avoid playing in the play in and I

1459
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 3: know it's not the play in, but we'll call it that,

1460
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: or are they gonna play in Dayton? But when they

1461
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: got in, when Miami popped up on the screen, deserved

1462
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: cool if you're a Miami fan or a Miami alum.

1463
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,879
Speaker 3: But I think for the rest of us that was expected.

1464
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: It would have been I think a major, major major

1465
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 3: upset had the red Hawks not gotten in. The red

1466
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: Hawks get in on the strength of what they did

1467
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 3: during the regular season. The committee respected the wins. The

1468
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 3: Committee respected the zero The Committee obviously did not ignore

1469
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 3: the schedule, because that's probably why they're playing in Dayton.

1470
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 3: But also, man like Rick Boring and I joke about

1471
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 3: this sometimes that we've been wondering and debating about the

1472
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 3: merits or the drawbacks of possible tournament expansion for a

1473
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 3: very long time. Look at the teams that didn't get in.

1474
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: My take, every year since I was a young guy

1475
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 3: young man has been if you don't make the tournament,

1476
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,799
Speaker 3: I don't feel sorry for OREO. Win more games, especially

1477
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,520
Speaker 3: at the high major level. We're talking about the exclusion

1478
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 3: of Oklahoma with fifteen losses a seven and eleven record

1479
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 3: in their league, Auburn seventeen and sixteen, a seven and

1480
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 3: eleven record in their league, Indiana fourteen losses, a nine

1481
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: and eleven record in their league. The bar to make

1482
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: the tournament has never been easier to clear. Those teams

1483
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: couldn't They have no one to blame but themselves. Those

1484
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 3: teams should have won more games. Miami, quite frankly, during

1485
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 3: the regular season, could not win any more games, and

1486
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: so congratulations to the RedHawks. It doesn't really feel like

1487
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: anybody was egregiously left out. I think that's to me

1488
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 3: been the legacy of the sixty eighteen field, because it

1489
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,839
Speaker 3: did feel like back when we had sixty four teams,

1490
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 3: like every Monday, there was a coach who would just

1491
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 3: drive us nuts complaining about why his team didn't get in,

1492
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 3: and you could sometimes understand his case. When we expanded

1493
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: to sixty eight, I feel like those arguments all went away,

1494
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 3: Like if you're an Oklahoma fan, really do you have

1495
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: that much ground to stand on to make the case

1496
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: that your fifteen lost team should have made the tournament?

1497
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 3: The bar to make this field has never been easier

1498
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 3: to clear, especially if you're in a high major league.

1499
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 3: And if you think it's felt watered down over the

1500
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, as we've talked about all these

1501
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: bubble teams, just wait till the tournament expands to seventy

1502
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: two or seventy six. There has maybe not been a

1503
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 3: clearer argument against tournament expansion than the way we've talked

1504
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 3: about all these bubble teams over the last few weeks.

1505
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 3: So congratulations to the RedHawks Kentucky make an ants naa

1506
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: tournament like it will be fascinating, and the Wildcats did

1507
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 3: play well down the stretch. Now, I felt like they

1508
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 3: let a golden opportunity slip through their hands in their

1509
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 3: SEC game against Florida, their quarterfinal game against Florida on Friday,

1510
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 3: because the Gators did not play well, and then the

1511
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 3: Gators played even more poorly, if that's the right way

1512
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: of putting it against Vanderbilt. The Wildcats, obviously, health has

1513
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 3: been an issue all season long. There are small stretches

1514
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: where they look really really good. There are small stretches

1515
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: where they look like well, frankly like some of the

1516
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 3: teams on the outside looking in. That We just talked

1517
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 3: about more on that on the Mark Pope Show tonight

1518
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 3: at six o'clock. The Bengals News. There are no real

1519
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 3: hard Bengals news. We had a ton of Bengals news

1520
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 3: last week. I think now you're just kind of trying

1521
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 3: to figure out, like, what is what they did in

1522
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: free agency? How does it set it up for the draft.

1523
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 3: And it's interesting. Austin and I were talking about this

1524
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: off air today. Paul Danner and I were talking about

1525
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: this earlier on the show that now it feels like

1526
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 3: cornerbacks should be a position that we start to talk

1527
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 3: about with a little bit more emphasis as it relates

1528
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: to the tenth overall pick we will see ten minutes

1529
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: after five o'clock. We have not taken a phone today,

1530
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 3: and admittedly, because we have been swamped with a lot

1531
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,879
Speaker 3: of stuff over the last week, including having some abbreviated shows,

1532
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 3: we've not had a chance to take that many phone calls.

1533
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 3: But we'll take one or two. Like we haven't heard

1534
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: from Mike in a while. Mike, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1535
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1536
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 14: Oh, I think this is Scott.

1537
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: Scott, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty, go ahead.

1538
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 14: I was very disappointed in you and not asking the

1539
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 14: guy from Miami when the last time it took him

1540
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 14: two hours to get to Dayton.

1541
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 3: Adam Zucker on CBS yesterday referred to Miami playing two

1542
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: hours away from campus. Now, you know, I know you

1543
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 3: can't exactly walk from Oxford to Dayton, but it didn't

1544
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: take two hours to get from Miami's campus to you.

1545
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: The arena not even closed.

1546
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 14: Maybe forty five minutes maybe, yes, if you're if you're

1547
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 14: hind one of those slow moving farm vehicles. Maybe it

1548
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 14: could take you a little longer.

1549
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: And I should give the guy a break.

1550
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 3: Maybe Adam Zucker hasn't spent much time in southwest Ohio,

1551
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 3: but I mean, come on it. No, it obviously doesn't

1552
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: take two hours to get from Miami to U the Arena.

1553
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 14: No, to Indianapolis, it does, but not my question for you,

1554
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 14: and I know we have a local flavor, but still

1555
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 14: I'm going to ask you about Udi. Do you think

1556
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 14: that he needs to go?

1557
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: It feels like it feels like the programs in need

1558
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: of a reset. Yeah, you know, it feels plateaued. It

1559
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: feels stale, And maybe my mind would have changed had

1560
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 3: they won the game yesterday. Wasn't Anthony Grant's fault that

1561
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: they couldn't make a free throw in the second half

1562
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: of the game. They kept getting stops and then weren't

1563
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 3: able to convert it. It just it feels like from

1564
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: the you know, it's interesting, We've talked a lot about

1565
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: west Miller and how hard of a cell he was

1566
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 3: going to be, and I think had they tried to

1567
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: sell Wes Miller, you would have people that were like,

1568
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not going to games anymore. I

1569
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 3: don't know if that same dynamic is in play at UD.

1570
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't gather that Anthony Grant is that popular, but

1571
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 3: I don't know that that lack of popularity would have

1572
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 3: translated into a half empty arena. That's just never how

1573
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 3: it's worked, never been how it's worked at the University

1574
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 3: of Dayton. But it has felt for a year or two,

1575
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 3: it has felt stale. It has felt for a year

1576
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 3: or two like there does need to be an injection

1577
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: of energy into the program, and maybe you get that

1578
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: by an injection of talent. It does feel like and

1579
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, because he's an extraordinarily classy

1580
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: man and he's meant a lot to that program, and

1581
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 3: he's gone through some absolute hell personally, but it does

1582
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 3: feel like that is mainly a reflection of the head coach.

1583
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, I you know, iye waffle between the two. I mean,

1584
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,879
Speaker 14: he won twenty three games this year. It's just hard.

1585
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 14: Who are you. I know, you can bring and somebody

1586
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 14: who maybe is younger, like you said, and infuse a

1587
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 14: little energy into the program. But man, you know, I

1588
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 14: always criticize when people leave Dayton, sure, and because they

1589
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 14: never do better never there isn't. I don't think there's

1590
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 14: one coach that you can point to there after they've

1591
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 14: left Dayton that they've had success. But so I think

1592
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 14: it's it's.

1593
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 3: Oliver Burnale did take Clemson too the NCAA Tournament three

1594
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: straight years.

1595
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 14: Well that's fair. I guess I didn't like losing Oliver either,

1596
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 14: But you know the other coaches who decided act.

1597
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I'll say this, and I was thinking

1598
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 3: They were talking about this a little bit on the

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 3: halftime show on CBS yesterday. If you look at at

1601
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Dayton basketball, let's just take it. Since twenty twenty, twenty

1602
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 3: twenty was obviously the heartbreaking year, the weird COVID season

1603
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 3: that was shortened, they won whatever it was, thirteen fourteen games.

1604
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: Since then, the win totals have been twenty four, twenty five,

1605
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: twenty three, and twenty three. It's not like they're winning

1606
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 3: fourteen games a year at the same time. No regular

1607
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 3: season championships in the Atlantic ten to speak of, no

1608
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 3: Atlantic ten tournament championships, to speak of one NCAA Tournament win.

1609
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 3: And I just I like the guy a lot. He's

1610
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 3: been a lot to that program as a player. He's

1611
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 3: an extraordinarily classy man. It feels like since that twenty

1612
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: twenty season, every team has looked and felt the same.

1613
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 3: Every season has looked and felt the same, exceptions being

1614
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: early last season when they played great in Maui. But

1615
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 3: it has felt like over the last three or four years,

1616
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 3: every Dayton team has looked and felt the same.

1617
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: Now.

1618
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 3: Again, on one level, that's pretty good. If your bad

1619
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,919
Speaker 3: year is involved you winning twenty three games, twenty five games,

1620
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: making it to the final of your conference tournament, that's

1621
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 3: that's one thing. But it does feel like it does

1622
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: feel like they've hit a little bit of a ceiling

1623
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 3: under under Anthony at at Ud now in terms of

1624
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: like who they're gonna go get, Well, that's why you

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01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 3: have an athletic director right like you, and that's that's

1626
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 3: you would you would like to think that there's at

1627
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: least been some background work done on finding a replacement

1628
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: if they ultimately do decide to move on.

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01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 14: Do you feel like their expectations should be the same

1630
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 14: as you see and Xavier Mmmm.

1631
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: I think the expectation right now to be a consistent

1632
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 3: NC doublea tournament team.

1633
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: Is a realistic one.

1634
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I do too.

1635
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 14: I do, I think, and they put themselves in a

1636
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 14: in a position to be that, but they they just haven't.

1637
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think regular nc DOUBLEA tournament participation regular.

1638
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: I'll say regular conference championships in the Atlantic ten is

1639
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: more of an expectation that it is in the Big

1640
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 3: Twelve and maybe to a large degree in the Big East.

1641
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like the thing

1642
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 3: that college basketball fans want more than anything is to

1643
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: have their name on TV on Selection Sunday, and that

1644
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 3: I think that's a reasonable regular expectation. Maybe you understand

1645
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: it's hard for it to happen every single year. I

1646
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: think if there's one thing that you see fans have

1647
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: come to realize is that maybe a lot of us

1648
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 3: took for granted them making it every single year for

1649
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: fourteen years under Bob Huggins and then nine under mc cronin.

1650
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: But I think regular NCAA tournament participation is a reasonable

1651
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: expectation at all three of those schools.

1652
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, all right, stare it up, Scott.

1653
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: Good to hear from you, even though I misidentified you.

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01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: Sent teen minutes after five o'clock. Let's see our guy

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Speaker 3: Hunter Sands on the official Bracketologist of the Tris Day

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Speaker 2: For five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I will start to talk before I turn the microphone on.

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Speaker 2: That literally just happened twenty minutes after five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty on moll Egger, the official

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Speaker 3: bracketologist of the Tri State, not just this show of

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Speaker 3: a media empire. He's developing a merch empire, and this

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Speaker 3: time of year he is extraordinarily useful. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: get him on to get his thoughts on the bracket,

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01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 3: and so it's good to have Hunter.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, sir, No, I'm doing great. How are you?

1682
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm wonderful. How in your opinion did the committee do?

1683
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 16: This is the first time in the four or five

1684
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 16: years that I've been doing this that I have not

1685
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 16: had a complaint that was worth honestly airing with the committee.

1686
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 16: I thought this was the best committee I've ever seen,

1687
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 16: and I thought they did really well at selecting the

1688
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 16: shoes field.

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01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on how Miami was placed?

1690
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 16: So I think they were replaced correctly. I mean I

1691
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,879
Speaker 16: had them projected to go to Dayton. They were selected

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01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 16: as the fourth to last team in They got scrubbed

1693
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 16: down a little bit, which just means that they looked

1694
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 16: at all the metrics and stuff and moved them down

1695
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 16: a bit. But I thought that Dayton was appropriate. You

1696
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 16: have to give him respect for thirty one and one,

1697
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 16: but you've also got to acknowledged their schedule was not

1698
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 16: the best.

1699
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 3: Watching the selection show, I heard a word you just

1700
01:29:58,479 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 3: used often scrubbing.

1701
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Does that mean yes?

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01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 16: So scrubbing is where you take teams and you compare

1703
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 16: them side by side, So like Duke Michigan or Arizona Michigan.

1704
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 16: You take them side by side, you look at them,

1705
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 16: you break it down, and you go all the way

1706
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 16: through the seed list. The committee does that every time

1707
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 16: that they go through the brackets. They pull these teams

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01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 16: up side by side, look at them, compare the entire

1709
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 16: team sheet, not just one aspect of it, and go

1710
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 16: down through it like that.

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01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: That's what scrubbing is.

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01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: I think if there were two to me that stood

1713
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: out is not necessarily incorrect replacement, just eyebrow raising. I

1714
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 3: think when you look at the when you look at

1715
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 3: the region of death where you have Saint John's as

1716
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: a five seed that stood out, what would you say

1717
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 3: to those who go, look, Rick Patino's team deserve to

1718
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 3: be seated higher.

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01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 16: I mean, looking at this bracket, the Big East was

1720
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 16: absolutely disrespected. And I'm not saying that it wasn't warranted.

1721
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 16: The Big East was down this year, but I mean

1722
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Speaker 16: having Saint John's as a five when they clearly honored

1723
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Speaker 16: teams like Purdue who won their conference championship. They didn't

1724
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 16: do the same as they did with Purdue or Arkansas

1725
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 16: and the SEC and Big Ten, but they didn't with

1726
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 16: Saint John's for whatever reason, they just left them there,

1727
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,520
Speaker 16: So I can understand that complaints.

1728
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: I was not surprised they were five.

1729
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 3: Has there ever been a to a one or a

1730
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,440
Speaker 3: two seed that had five home losses like Purdue?

1731
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 16: Off the top of my head, I don't believe so,

1732
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 16: but at least not in recent memory. But I would

1733
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 16: not be shocked if there has been one way back when,

1734
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 16: but at least in the more modern selection era, I

1735
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 16: know not that I.

1736
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Know of it.

1737
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: So the prevailing sentiment among a lot of fans has

1738
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 3: been that the conference tournaments don't matter all that much.

1739
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 3: And I think that's a takeaway that a lot of people,

1740
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,799
Speaker 3: you know, use this the Saint John's seeding to confirm.

1741
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 3: What does what Purdue did where they they won it,

1742
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 3: and they beat a great Michigan team in the final

1743
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 3: to win the Big Ten tournament? But does what the

1744
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 3: committee did with Purdue tell us that actually these conference

1745
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 3: tournaments might matter a little bit more than many might imagine.

1746
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did.

1747
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 8: Looking at this year.

1748
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 2: You had Virginia get bumped up.

1749
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 16: You had Michigan fall behind Arizona, which was directly related,

1750
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 16: as Keith Gill said on the selection show to what

1751
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 16: the Sunday results. You had Purdue jump Michigan State, you

1752
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 16: had Arkansas jump up to the four line. All of

1753
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 16: those things happened on Sunday. So this year, for probably

1754
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 16: the first time that I've ever seen it, the committee

1755
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 16: actually took into account all of the results this year,

1756
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 16: as opposed to normally when they would shut down about

1757
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 16: Friday or so.

1758
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on Kentucky's placement?

1759
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 16: So a little biased here, but I'm going to Chicago

1760
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 16: for the Sweet sixteen of Laitie eight, so I love

1761
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 16: that Kentucky got placed there. The teams in that bracket

1762
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 16: are just really fun to watch and it would be

1763
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 16: a great environment, So I.

1764
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 2: Was okay with it.

1765
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 16: I mean, Santa Clair is not a tough tier, not

1766
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 16: an easy team to beat. We watched them beat Zavior

1767
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 16: this year in November. I definitely think that's a tough matchup,

1768
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 16: but they did get placed in a little bit of

1769
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 16: the tough region.

1770
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 3: Can Palm give Santa Clair a forty five percent chance

1771
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 3: and win in that game?

1772
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1773
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 3: Is there an overarching takeaway from this year that we

1774
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 3: could use when we start to talk about how the

1775
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 3: bracket's going to be for him next year, that might

1776
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 3: have stood out relative to previous years you've done this.

1777
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 16: I mean, I think a conference like strength of schedule

1778
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 16: in the conference matters. You look at an Auburn team

1779
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 16: who played the craziest schedule I've seen, and they were

1780
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 16: the second team out of the field at.

1781
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 2: Seventeen and sixteen.

1782
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 16: We shouldn't have a team that's got that many losses

1783
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 16: even close to the field, but they really honored that

1784
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,799
Speaker 16: strength of schedule, especially outside of your conferences. And then also,

1785
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 16: I mean, the conference tournaments matter. Usually you can say, oh,

1786
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 16: mail it in on Friday or Saturday, but you can't

1787
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 16: do that this year or so I think that kind

1788
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 16: of going forward needs to be the gold standard the

1789
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 16: committee applies every year.

1790
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 3: Should the fact that you see was nowhere close to

1791
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 3: the first four or out tell me that I don't

1792
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: have to agonize over whether they would have gotten in

1793
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 3: simply by beating UCF last Wednesday.

1794
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, as I told you, I think last Monday

1795
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 16: or Tuesday when we spoke, they would have needed to

1796
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 16: have won two games there, so not just UCF but

1797
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,919
Speaker 16: also Arizona, so you do not need to agonize.

1798
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: All right, where will you be throughout the course of

1799
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 2: the tournament.

1800
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 16: So I'm going to be in Dayton the next two nights,

1801
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 16: so Tuesday Wednesday night I'll be at the first four.

1802
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 16: I'm actually taking this weekend off. I'll be at home

1803
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 16: on my couch like most Americans, watching the games. And

1804
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 16: then next for the Sweet sixteen ELAD eight, I'll be

1805
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 16: up in Chicago covering the Sweet sixteen ELID eight games

1806
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 16: up there.

1807
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: All right, and you're how much more merch are you're selling?

1808
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 8: Now?

1809
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 3: You got more T shirts? You got polos. I think

1810
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:31,480
Speaker 3: you have wineglasses. I believe you have truck decals, mkoozies.

1811
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 3: What merche do you have that you're selling right now?

1812
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 16: I think you hit it on the head there. I

1813
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 16: have stickers, I have a couple T shirts, a couple

1814
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 16: of different hoodies, a polo option. There's all sorts of

1815
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 16: merch there. You all ask for it. I've tried to

1816
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 16: be inclusive as possible. So check it out there you

1817
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 16: can find it. I'll tweet it out here in a minute,

1818
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 16: and you can find it at bracket Inky there, or

1819
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,480
Speaker 16: it's on my samsum sports.

1820
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 7: Media dot com.

1821
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: It's on the homepage there about two thirds of the

1822
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 2: way down next year at this time. Will you be

1823
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: too big to come on with us?

1824
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 8: Absolutely not.

1825
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 1: I'll never forget you though.

1826
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 3: Well you're the one awesome stuff man. Enjoyed having you

1827
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the season and enjoy covering the tournament.

1828
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, sir, thank you.

1829
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 3: That's our guy, Hunter Sansom Sandsum Sports Media, the NKY

1830
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 3: Bracket Guy twenty seven after five o'clock. I think the

1831
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 3: good news, though, is like we ended last week by

1832
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 3: talking about u SE and you know, Friday, the West

1833
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: Miller news came down and all signs are pointing toward

1834
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 3: Jared Calhoun being the next head coach at u SEE,

1835
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 3: And frankly, he has felt like a front runner since

1836
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 3: well before you See had a vacancy. I keep using

1837
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 3: the term bar to clear the bar, to clear the

1838
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 3: first bar, like eventually, eventually, it'd be awesome to talk

1839
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 3: about UC basketball in terms that involve things like competing

1840
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 3: for a Big twelve championship and making a run to

1841
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 3: the second week end of the tournament and consistently playing

1842
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 3: deep into the tournament. But the first one you got

1843
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 3: to do is just get to the field, like the inn.

1844
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 3: It's so it's striking to me. In twenty nineteen, Mick

1845
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Cronin coaches uc and the NCAA Tournament. They lose to Iowa,

1846
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 3: and there was fair exasperation. They had blown the game

1847
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,520
Speaker 3: against Nevada the year before that Iowa game in Columbus,

1848
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 3: they had a big lead early lost it. For all

1849
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 3: the success in the regular season, as cool as it

1850
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 3: was to make nine straight tournaments, they had advanced to

1851
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,440
Speaker 3: the sweet sixteen just once, and so there was exasperation

1852
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 3: with constantly not getting past the first weekend. And then

1853
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: so when Mick Lee's for UCLA ultimately obviously became John Brandon,

1854
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: all anybody talked about was got to get somebody who

1855
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 3: can get him to sweet sixteen. And by the way,

1856
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 3: college basketball then versus now feels like forever ago. We

1857
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 3: weren't talking about the Big twelve. We were talking about

1858
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 3: you know, the the AAC and NIL wasn't a thing

1859
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 3: yet and the portal was not a thing yet, and

1860
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 3: it was just a different world entirely. But all anybody

1861
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 3: wanted to focus on was get to the second weekend,

1862
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 3: and I remember going, that's cool. I'm with you, but

1863
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 3: understand how hard it is to get to the tournament

1864
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 3: every single year. At that point, nobody wanted to hear it,

1865
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 3: and understandably so now now that's all we want, So

1866
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 3: the expectations are a little bit lowered. Could be honest

1867
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 3: about it, man like beat playing Dayton. Can that happen soon?

1868
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 3: That'd be the question for the new head coach. And

1869
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: again all signs are pointing to that person being Jared Calhoun.

1870
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 3: Twenty nine minutes after five o'clock five one, three, seven,

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1889
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Speaker 3: sent a nice spring his third that's the good news.

1890
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Speaker 3: The bad news is Andrew Abbott has given up five runs.

1891
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 3: He pitched two innings. They took him out for the third.

1892
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 3: He's back out there for the fourth because you could

1893
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 3: do that during spring training. And his spring era is

1894
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 3: eleven point seven to seven. Diamondbacks lead the red six

1895
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1897
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1898
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,479
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1899
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1900
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Speaker 3: coming up in just about twenty five minutes, and my

1901
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 3: interview with Travis Steele is coming up here momentarily. But first,

1902
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 3: it has been a while since we've heard from Mike.

1903
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 3: Take two, Mike, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Go ahead, Mike,

1904
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 3: appreciate you know.

1905
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 12: I hope you had a nice sabbatical, so if that's

1906
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 12: what it was. But you know, we missed, you missed

1907
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 12: your big time. I actually listened to Rome for a

1908
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 12: little bit. That was fun. But he's not you. You're

1909
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 12: my favorite.

1910
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 8: Well, thank you.

1911
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 12: Oh there's no question. Gosh, what are we going to

1912
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 12: do for a starting hitcher on opening Dame?

1913
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 3: Andrew Abbott has been getting shelled in Arizona. It's going

1914
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 3: to be him. It ain't gonna be Hunter Green. The

1915
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 3: one that I think is curious as Chase Burns, because

1916
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's something physical that might pop up

1917
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 3: once the season begins. I hope the answer is no.

1918
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I do too. It just got me worried to death. Yes,

1919
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, it's the card. The house the cards

1920
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 12: is kind of falling in. Okay, and and and the NCAA.

1921
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: That's the big deal.

1922
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 12: I'll tell you watch out for mix team now. He's

1923
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 12: got rolling a little bit. They're not gonna win it,

1924
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 12: but he's gonna team might cause a little damage before

1925
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 12: he gets exited out of there, so watch out for

1926
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 12: mixed squad.

1927
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't disagree.

1928
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 3: It feels like it feels like Donovan Dent is healthy,

1929
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 3: He's he's playing.

1930
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 2: Great right now.

1931
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 3: Now, I'm sure, and I haven't heard, but I'm sure

1932
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 3: Mick Kronan is not necessarily gonna love the idea of

1933
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 3: having to go across the country. But I I I

1934
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 3: do wonder top to bottom how healthy that team is.

1935
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would give him much.

1936
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Speaker 3: Of a chance against Yukon, but I I've watched Mick

1937
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 3: cronin coach against Dan Hurley before and I would be

1938
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 3: more than here for another rematch. And by the way,

1939
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Speaker 3: that that UCF team that Mick is playing in Round

1940
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 3: one I don't like at all. So I do think.

1941
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Speaker 3: I do think with a healthier Donovan Dent, the Bruins

1942
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 3: will win their first round game in Philly.

1943
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Speaker 12: I couldn't agree with you more. I think, Santa Clara.

1944
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 12: Now you know there's three coaches in the WCC that

1945
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 12: have over five hundred wins. Herb Sendek, Randy Bennett, and

1946
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 12: Mark Fuke. Those are some heavyweight coaches. I think Santa

1947
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 12: Clara will take care of business and beat Kentucky.

1948
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who I think are going

1949
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Speaker 2: to agree with you.

1950
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard our last conversation with

1951
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 3: Hunter Sandsum, but the website Kenpalm dot com gives Santa

1952
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: Clara a forty five percent chance of winning that game.

1953
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 3: The Wildcats Kentucky might be the most inconsistent team in

1954
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 3: the sport. They're banged up, and we had a chance

1955
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 3: to watch Santa Clara played Xavier early in the season

1956
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 3: and routed the Musketeers. Now, much of that was a

1957
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: reflection of Richard Patino early in the season what he

1958
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 3: had and what he didn't have. But that is a

1959
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 3: big Santa Clara team. It is a skilled Santa Clara team.

1960
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 3: They've got positional size. I think pretty much everywhere. I

1961
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 3: think Kentucky's going to have to ride Otega away and

1962
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 3: in the absence of him having a big game. Yes,

1963
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 3: I cannot agree more. I think the Wildcats are right

1964
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 3: for an upset.

1965
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Speaker 12: No, I do too.

1966
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Speaker 14: Uh.

1967
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Speaker 12: You know the reason that Arkansas jumped up is because

1968
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 12: you know, John Calipari may be the greatest coach ever

1969
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 12: in developing guards. This a Cuff kid is no joke

1970
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 12: and now he's the only reason they jumped up to

1971
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 12: that number four. Well, there are other kids too, forgither,

1972
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 12: but that Arkansas team's fun.

1973
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1974
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 3: Darius Acuff junior in the game that they won over

1975
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 3: Oklahoma in the semi final, he made a two point

1976
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 3: baseline jumper that Arkansas didn't get a stop on the

1977
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 3: other end, but it was a pro shot. Like for

1978
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 3: for for all the talk of Peterson Adbansa being the

1979
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 3: number one overall pick, like there's a very clear case

1980
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 3: that could be made that instead that should be Darius Aykoff.

1981
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 3: He is he is awesome. He is awesome, And I'm

1982
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 3: I'm happy for John Calli Perry. He wins the SEC tournament.

1983
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 3: He's got a team that can make another run in March.

1984
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm a big John Calli Perry fan. I could certainly

1985
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 3: understand why Kentucky fans wanted to move on, but I'm

1986
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 3: I'm happy for coach Cal.

1987
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Speaker 12: I am too. I love Coach Cal He's a fun guy.

1988
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Speaker 12: Two more foot things. I know you got to go

1989
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 12: very quickly. I think Florida. I think Florida laid down

1990
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 12: a little bit that in that uh. In that Vanderbilt game.

1991
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Speaker 12: I can't prove it, but I just think they laid

1992
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 12: down a little bit, knowing that they were gonna have

1993
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Speaker 12: a one or two seat No matter what happened, Virginia

1994
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,799
Speaker 12: is no way a three seed. That that is another

1995
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 12: brevenesty in my opinion. And nobody got screwed more than

1996
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 12: Grandpaul Patino.

1997
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1998
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Speaker 3: I mean number one, I don't know that Florida laid down.

1999
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 3: I just didn't didn't think they played that well, and

2000
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 3: they didn't play well against Kentucky, turned it over a

2001
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 3: bunch of times, they were disjointed offensively, the Wildcats couldn't

2002
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 3: take advantage. I think what happened against Vanderbilt is more

2003
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,879
Speaker 3: of a reflection of Vanderbilt than it is an indictment

2004
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 3: against Florida. I think Saint John's is appropriately seeded. Look,

2005
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 3: the Big East was down this season. If you look

2006
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 3: at the hard games they played, they had opportunities. They

2007
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 3: lost to Alabama, lost to Iowa State for what it's worth,

2008
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Speaker 3: lost to Auburn, lost to Kentucky, and were a deserving

2009
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Speaker 3: Big East regular season champion. Of what they did to

2010
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 3: yukon the other night is pretty striking if you understand

2011
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 3: how lopsided the game was at Yukon. But I don't

2012
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 3: think Saint John's got screwed. I think Saint John's was

2013
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 3: appropriately seeded. They won a Big East tournament by beating

2014
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Speaker 3: two teams that weren't tournament teams, then took care of

2015
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Speaker 3: business against Yukon, which is great. But I I just

2016
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 3: they had a chance to win harder games in the

2017
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 3: non league portion of the schedule, and they lost almost

2018
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,719
Speaker 3: all of them. I know they have a win over Baylor.

2019
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 3: Baylor wasn't a tournament team. They have a win over

2020
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 3: Ole Miss. Ole Miss was not a tournament team. They

2021
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 3: have a win over to Paul de Paul was not

2022
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 3: a tournament team, and so I think I think Saint

2023
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 3: John's was. It was a little alarming or surprising. I

2024
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 3: guess I should say that they were seeded fifth, But

2025
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they got screwed. Mike, I gonna run man,

2026
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

2027
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think they played better.

2028
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 13: They didn't play as.

2029
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 12: Well early in the season as they are now.

2030
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Speaker 2: Thanks Mob, you got it.

2031
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 3: I mean they had I think Saint John's had four

2032
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 3: losses before New Year's Oh, and they lost on the

2033
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 3: Road to Providence. I don't think that that Providence game

2034
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 3: was at home. I think Saint John's is very, very dangerous.

2035
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 3: I think Rick Patino is the greatest college basketball coach

2036
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 3: of all time. I did not think they got screwed.

2037
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 3: Travis Steele's team did not get screwed. The head coach

2038
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Speaker 3: of the Miami RedHawks joins.

2039
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Speaker 4: US next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2040
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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty. Travis Steele is with his head coach

2051
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Speaker 3: of the Miami RedHawks. His team is getting said to

2052
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 3: play SMU and Dayton on Wednesday Night. What was the

2053
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 3: moment like when you and your guys saw Miami on

2054
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 3: the screen on the selection show.

2055
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Speaker 10: Surreal, you know, just jubilant, happy, you know, just happy

2056
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 10: for our guys man that they get to get a

2057
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 10: reward for all of the efforts and all the sacrifice.

2058
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 1: That they've done, that they've made.

2059
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Speaker 10: And man, just really really happy that they're going to

2060
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 10: have this experience and now we've got to capitalize on it.

2061
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Though, you know, I'm starting here in Dayton.

2062
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 3: From Thursday afternoon in Cleveland to yesterday in Oxford, was

2063
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 3: there at all any anxiety that you would maybe not

2064
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 3: get the result you were hoping for?

2065
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't.

2066
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 10: I thought we were in. I thought we were firmly in.

2067
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,839
Speaker 10: And I uh, I mean we won thirty one regular

2068
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 10: season games. I mean that's when undefeated. We're one of

2069
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 10: I think one of only four teams since two thousand

2070
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 10: to do that, and it would have been unprecedent for

2071
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 10: us not to be in, you know, so I felt

2072
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 10: good about it. But at the same time, you know,

2073
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 10: I listen to your hands. Your life's in the hands

2074
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 10: of others, you know, like we didn't take advantage of

2075
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 10: our opportunity up in Cleveland, and and so then all

2076
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 10: of a sudden, you know, we didn't control our own destiny,

2077
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 10: which is always a little bit you know, scary, but

2078
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 10: I did feel good about it. I still went to

2079
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 10: Winston's my my seventh grader's soccer games, and I played

2080
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 10: dad all weekend, and then we had a really good

2081
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 10: practice on Sunday. So because I was anticipating, obviously us

2082
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 10: being in the slublay terms, we have practice on Sunday,

2083
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 10: a very spirited one, and I thought we were able

2084
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 10: to take a couple of days off, which was good

2085
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 10: to get us mentally and fresh and physically fresh air

2086
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 10: for this final run.

2087
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 3: What's it like when you're talking to a team in

2088
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 3: the aftermath of a loss when they haven't suffered one

2089
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 3: all season long?

2090
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 10: Oh man, total shock shocked, you know, obviously very very upset.

2091
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 10: Tons of emotion in the room. And I didn't say

2092
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 10: a ton to our guys afterwards when there's when there's

2093
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 10: that much emotion in the room and you think you

2094
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 10: got to keep it short and sweet. I told him

2095
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 10: we'd get back together at the hotel. You know, guys

2096
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 10: were crying, and and because we did, we put a

2097
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 10: lot into this thing, man, and I think, you know,

2098
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 10: but we didn't earn the right to win that day,

2099
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 10: we weren't physical enough and and we weren't the team

2100
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 10: that we've been all year long. And it's still was

2101
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 10: a one possession game and they had twenty four second

2102
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 10: chance points. You know, so it's like, I think the

2103
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 10: biggest day for us, Like I told our guys at

2104
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 10: the hotel, was like, listen, our season isn't over.

2105
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: This isn't the end.

2106
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 10: We need to learn from this though, And I said,

2107
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 10: if there's any if I see anybody like have a

2108
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 10: sad face or down and gloom over the next couple

2109
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 10: of days, and then then then we have no chance

2110
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 10: in the lul turn.

2111
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: We got to move on.

2112
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 10: We have to get to learn from own it, move

2113
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 10: on and get better from it.

2114
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 1: So but it was very emotional.

2115
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 3: Initially the last few weeks with all the attention your

2116
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 3: program has gotten, all the close games you've played in

2117
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 3: that Game of the year in Athens, Uh, even what

2118
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 3: happened on Thursday, you guys have been walking this tightrope

2119
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 3: down for a while. So so how does that help

2120
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 3: you on Wednesday and hopefully beyond.

2121
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 10: Well, I think Mark, there's a lot of close games, right,

2122
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 10: can you operate in tight moments? And we can uh

2123
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 10: and We've shown that a lot this year. We've won

2124
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 10: in different ways. We won games in the sixties, wonn

2125
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 10: games in the nineties, you know, hundreds. You know, like

2126
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 10: we can win a lot of different ways, which is good.

2127
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 10: But I think the biggest thing for our guys, and

2128
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 10: I was, like I've told them, is every possession is

2129
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 10: basically a life of its own right, and you've got

2130
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 10: to have that possession toughness. So if we are up

2131
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 10: by eight, nine, ten, that next possession shift is important

2132
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 10: as if we were down by four six in a

2133
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 10: tight game, right, can we maintain that possession toughness throughout

2134
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 10: the game and then so the tournament if we.

2135
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 1: Can do that, and then I like.

2136
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 2: Our odds walk me through.

2137
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: So you know, last night, six twenty whatever it was,

2138
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: there's Miami. You guys hug, high five, embrace, and then

2139
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 3: you got to you got to turn the page quickly.

2140
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 3: You got to get to work. So just since, uh,

2141
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 3: since last night to today, what is what's it been like?

2142
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 3: What's the process been like preparing for an opponent that

2143
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 3: you just found out about less than twenty four hours ago.

2144
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just use all hands on deck.

2145
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 10: You know, we got a great staff and you obviously

2146
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 10: get the stats all printed out, everything, all the analytical

2147
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 10: data you take. I was starting there. I always look

2148
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 10: at that, try to get familiar with their roster. Who

2149
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 10: do they have on their team. We call coaches in

2150
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 10: their league or that have played them, just to get

2151
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 10: a verbal scout, you know, on on on what their

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Speaker 10: strengths and weaknesses are, different things like that. Well, then

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Speaker 10: we start watching diving in film. You know, I've watched

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Speaker 10: six full games here since since we drew SMU. Because

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Speaker 10: they're a little bit unique because there one young man's

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Speaker 10: been injured edwards the last four or five games.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's going to play. I guess we

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Speaker 1: have to prepare that way.

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Speaker 10: So we had to go back deeper into the season

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Speaker 10: to watch when he played, right, because I think that's

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Speaker 10: really parts. They played a little bit differently offensively and

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Speaker 10: defensively when they had him because they.

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Speaker 1: Were playing a little bit smaller at the four.

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Speaker 10: So just trying to dissect to come up with a

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Speaker 10: game plan offensively, defensively, what's our plan, how can we

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Speaker 10: attack these guys? You know, like, obviously we are who

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Speaker 10: we are, it's more about us. But at the same time,

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Speaker 10: you've got to be able to steal probably eight to

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Speaker 10: ten points in a game like this in order to advance.

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Speaker 10: So those little things matter. And then are getting our

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Speaker 10: guys to understand their personnalit and just learning it. We'll

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Speaker 10: be learning that today, so again we know the end

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Speaker 10: and season and how to close.

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Speaker 1: Out on them.

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Speaker 3: You're qualified to answer this question having been a video coordinator.

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Speaker 3: How is the process different now as opposed to when

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Speaker 3: you first got into the business. When you find out

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Speaker 3: about an opponent, you've got to you've got to prepare

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Speaker 3: in a very short amount of time for a game

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, Thursday or Friday.

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Speaker 10: Well, when I was at Indiana University, MO, we'd have

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Speaker 10: to go like exchange them physically.

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Speaker 1: I would drive.

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Speaker 10: I would drive and meet somebody, you know, like you know,

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Speaker 10: whatever we had to do because it was just such

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Speaker 10: a quick turnaround to your point. You know, obviously now VHS,

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Speaker 10: tapes and DVDs are out the window, and so now

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Speaker 10: everything's done online. We can just download a game within

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Speaker 10: five minutes. I have a game on my laptop. It's insane,

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Speaker 10: and you know it's just at the click of a mouse,

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Speaker 10: all of a sudden, you got it. Man, I wish

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Speaker 10: they would have had that technology back when I was

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Speaker 10: at Indiana University, would have saved me a lot of

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Speaker 10: mileage and a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: I love hearing those old stories.

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Speaker 3: I love hearing those old stories about you know, trying

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Speaker 3: to stop tapes and you know sometimes they get stuck

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Speaker 3: in the mail and you have to go drive somewhere.

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Speaker 3: You Obviously, in an ideal world, you're playing on Thursday

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Speaker 3: or Friday first, but it still has to be awfully

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Speaker 3: fun for the Miami community to get a chance to

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Speaker 3: come watch your guys play at ud Arena. And I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there's something about that atmosphere that, even though I

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Speaker 3: think everybody wishes you weren't in the first four, that

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Speaker 3: you have to be looking forward to.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, it's it's special for our fans. I mean,

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Speaker 10: to be able to have a game that's fifty minutes

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Speaker 10: away from our university. Obviously, have a kind of Miami

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Speaker 10: alumni and Dayton and in Cincinnati Columbus and they can

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Speaker 10: drive to an institably tournament game to watch their team play.

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Speaker 10: I mean, how cool that it's going to be sold out,

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Speaker 10: It'll be a home game for us.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. Man, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 10: It's so when I was at Xavier MOOI played in

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Speaker 10: the in the in dayton we played n C State.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the year wrong. Y fourteen. I was

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Speaker 1: going to say fourteen.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Brooke was a senior and stain Brooke was battling injury.

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Speaker 10: We're kind of limping into the into double as we

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Speaker 10: didn't know if we were going to get in or not.

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Speaker 10: And I would tell you that was the best atmosphere

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Speaker 10: into DOUBLEA tournament wise that I've ever been a part of.

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Speaker 10: Better than the Elite eights, better than the sixteens, because

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Speaker 10: those buildings are so enormous and you're so far away,

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Speaker 10: whether you're in San Jose, California, or Atlanta, and it

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Speaker 10: just doesn't have the same atmosphere the ones in Dayton,

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Speaker 10: man are like it is an absolute zoo in there.

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Speaker 10: And so it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Man. We're really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Need a better result than twenty fourteen. That's all I

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Speaker 2: say about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we do we do.

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Speaker 10: This funny Chris mac back back texting me. C mac

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Speaker 10: lever text them back and forth, and he said, he

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Speaker 10: goes man. He said good luck man. He said, you

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01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 10: gotta do better than we did against in DC.

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Speaker 3: I remember it well, rooting for a better result on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I know you have a thousand things going on, so

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Speaker 3: I can't thank you enough for doing this. Congratulations and

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Speaker 3: we'll do it against soonm coach, thanks so much, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having me on bo awesome stuff. Travis steel Head,

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Speaker 3: coach of the Miami RedHawks. Day play on Wednesday against

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Speaker 3: SMU at ud Arena. We got to go. I am

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Speaker 3: off tomorrow. Cheed Brendle fills in back at it on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget it. The Holy Grail on Thursday morning from

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Speaker 3: ten till noon before the games tip off. You gotta

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Speaker 3: be one of the first sixty four people in the

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01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 3: door to get a team, and if your team wins

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01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 3: the whole thing, you win a weekend golf get away.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Bertram Golf. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to you for listening. The Mark Pope Radio Show

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Speaker 3: is next. Have a great night. This is ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati sports station.

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