1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: All morning. I sat through nine thirty, nine thirty, nine thirty, 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: and then the minute that nine thirty hit, my phone 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: started ringing NonStop with an emergency, and so now I 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: missed nine thirty. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: I've never been more disappointed for someone to get a 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: promotion good work. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: We knew there would be mixed reaction because there's change. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: Nobody likes change. Everybody, well I shouldn't say nobody likes change, 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: but changes. What I find interesting is a lot of 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 3: people don't like change. Yet in everybody's life, change is 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: the one constant. There's all There are always things changing, 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: And for me, going to Koa on Monday, November ten 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: at nine am is going back home. That's literally where 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: I started on Saturday mornings. It was January like two 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: thousand and six, I think something like that, and I 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: was driving all the way down. We lived up the 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: Mountains Way north of Boulder, and I was driving all 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: the way down on Saturday mornings doing a two hours show. 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: I think it was like either from nine to eleven 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: or ten to noon, something like that. And Chris Aldinger, 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: who was the market president at the time, had asked 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: me to do that because Peter Boyles, who used to 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: sit in this chair for decades. Had when he found 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: out that I was coming back home from DC, had 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: asked me to go on his local television program. He 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: had something over at PBS. I forget what it was, 27 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: but you know, like a public affairs program. And Peter 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: didn't know me, and I may I knew if Peter 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: about as much as I knew as you know, I 30 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: would hear him occasionally. 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: On the radio. 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: But I had a feeling that Peter thought that bringing 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 3: me in to do that show with him that morning, 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: he was going to just rip me a new one 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: because I was a Bush appointee and so and he 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: despised George W. 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: Bush. 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: And it was what I remember is it was like 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: the week of or the week before Thanksgiving. It was 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: really snowy, and I was driving all the way down 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: from the mountains, you know, up north of Boulder to 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: go downtown Denver, and about halfway, I was thinking to myself, 43 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: this is not this isn't worth it. You know, it 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: is snow packed. It was one of those days you know, 45 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: where you're traveling twenty five miles an hour and you're 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: slipping and sliding. 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 4: And I thought, ah, it's just not worth it. I 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: don't want to do this. 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: And then I thought, but I can't, you know, why 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: not have a way of contacting him. I guess I could, 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: you know, call four one one or whatever it used 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: to be and find out what the number was for PBS. 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: And decided, No, that's just not that's that's not the 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: right thing to do. I've made the commitment. I'm going 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: to fulfill the commitment. I'm going to get there and 56 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. So we get there, and 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, I put on a tie and a jacket 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 3: and he put some makeup on me, and we sit down. 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: Peter and I visit for a little bit, and then 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: he starts in and he starts in with his cross examination. 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: And I don't know whether he didn't know whether I 62 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: was a lawyer or not. I don't know how much 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: he knew about my background. But it was like I 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: was kind of taking aback, and I thought, do you 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: really want to do this? Like I'm thinking, do you 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: really want to fight? If you really want to fight, 67 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: you know, let's do a couple more questions. And this 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: is all going on in my head and he keeps 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: pounding and pounding, and it's really not about me. It's 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: more about Bush and some of the dish decisions that 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: Bush made, and it's about DHS and blah blah blah. 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: And so I'm like, Okay, oh, this is what you want, 73 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: this is what you're going to get. And so I 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: just fam, I just go right into the fight just 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: I mean, the fisticuffs are flowing. And there's at one 76 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: point where he says something about Bush. I forget what 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: it was, but I said, well, you know what you 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: might find ironic is I actually agree with you about him. 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: The President made a lot of mistakes, and the President 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: did a lot of things that I didn't approve of 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: but were outside my purview, outside my jurisdiction. 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: So if he's trying to expand. 83 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: The Part D Medicare drug program, I don't really have 84 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I can, and I probably did express something 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: to Andy cart or to Joe Hagen or somebody on 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: the in the kief of Staff's office about hey, guys, 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: I think this is a really bad idea. But I 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: never say anything directly to the President because the President 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: would look at me and say, I don't care what 90 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: you think about Medicare Part D program. I'm speaking to 91 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: Tommy Thompson, the Secretary of Health and Human Services about that. 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: So I just did not engage in those issues that 93 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: didn't have anything to do with what my area was. 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: And you know why I would do that, primarily because 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: you want the president to pay attention to you when 96 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: you speak to him. You want the President of the 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: United States to know that when you're talking to him, 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: you're talking about an issue that is in your department, 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 3: in your in your portfolio, and that he ought to 100 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: listen to what you have to say. And if you're 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: always going off on a tangent about stuff that really 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: has nothing to do with what he's assigned you to do, 103 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: then pretty soon you become what no noise and Peter 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: was just a pall taken aback that I would dare 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: to go on air as a conservative Republican and criticize 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: a concern a pseudo a sort of kind of sometimes 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: conservative Republican President George W. 108 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: Bush. 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: And so we go back and forth like that for 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: I think the program was an hour. So we go 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: back and forth like that for an hour, and we 112 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: finish and he Pete Peter gets up and he's like, damn, 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: you're really good. I thought to myself, well, okay, so 114 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: what thanks for the comment, a compliment, whatever. But unbeknownst 115 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: to me, he calls Chris Oldinger, who's the market president 116 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: at the time, and says to Chris, hey, I've interviewed 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: because this is what Chris Oldinger related to me that 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: Peter Boyles had called her and said, Hey, I just 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: interviewed this guy that's you know, lives in Colorado. He's 120 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: been in DC for six years. He was the Undersecretary 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: of Houldmand Security. I just had him on my public 122 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: affairs program and he's really, really good. You ought to 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: have him on the radio. So Chris Ollinger called me 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: and said, we've got this slot on KOA. Would you 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: like to do it? And I didn't expect. I didn't 126 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: know I was gonna get paid or not get paid 127 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: or anything else. I just saw it as an opportunity 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: to do something that I've always wanted to do and 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: that was beyond the radio. 130 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: So I told Chris absolutely, I'll do it. 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: So, without even having met Chris until I think maybe 132 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: the week before whatever, I drive down, I walk into 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: the KOA studios and I sit down and dragon, you'll 134 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: love this. I'm like, uh, how these buttons work. Of course, 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: now you know that, almost twenty years later, I'm still like, 136 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: you're still having to tell me that's a double click. 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: Mike. 138 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 5: Hey, you only know the on button, off button, and 139 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: next event button over there, and you're barely good at 140 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: doing any any of those. 141 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: And it's taking me twenty years. At least I know 142 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: how to turn the microphone on and off most of 143 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 3: the time. 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 6: Most of the time, most of the time. 145 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: And now I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna 146 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: have to learn a new because they got it on 147 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: the other side. They've got it totally screwed up over there. 148 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: But I probably shouldn't bitch and moan about the studio 149 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: over there, because well, I think I have a reputation 150 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: for already bitching and moaning about studios. 151 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 6: It's in upgrade, but is it? 152 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: But really isn't, really isn't. So anyway to finish the 153 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: story real quickly, uh, Chris puts me on I go 154 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: on air and do two hours and two hours to 155 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: me is like nothing. So I do the two hours 156 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: and Chris and then Lee Larson. Lee Larson, an icon 157 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: in Colorado media, tells Chris Hire that guy hiring, so 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: they hire me and for I don't know how honestly 159 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: you know me, I can flate time, so I don't remember. 160 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: I don't remember how long that I was doing that 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: Saturday program. And I was doing consulting work at the time, 162 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: so during the week I was flying off to Chicago 163 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: or New York or LA or someplace. And then coming back. 164 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: Of course, there was driving tam or crazy. And then 165 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: I get up on Saturday mornings and I had drive 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: all the way down here. I'd cut across US sixty 167 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: six and come down I twenty five and oh, it's 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: just it was a miserable drive, but I did it. 169 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: At least it was Saturday. Wasn't too bad. And then 170 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: Gunny Bob you remember that name. Yeah, so Gunny Bob disappears. 171 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: Gunny Bob says he's going to Afghanistan, and to this day, 172 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: nobody really knows where Gunny Bob is. 173 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 6: He's like, I'm just done. 174 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just like disappears. And I really wanted that slot. 175 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: I wanted that so badly. I couldn't see straight and 176 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: they I can't. I honestly don't remember whether they had 177 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: me filling in or what. But I finally at some 178 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: point we had the old member of the old pit 179 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: out here. Yeah, so we had the old pit out here, 180 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: and so. 181 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 6: He used to be filled with employees. 182 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the one was crammed up and it had those 183 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: old nasty cubicles and papers were piled everywhere, and Darryl 184 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: Luby and everybody was all I mean everybody, the engineers, 185 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: everybody was in that pit. 186 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: They were all in that pit. 187 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: And I finally went to Lee Larson and said, I 188 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: don't you know, I've kind of been filling in, but 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: I'd kind of like to do that. And Lee kind 190 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: of laughed and said, you mean, no ways talk to 191 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: you yet, because that's what we plan to do. So 192 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 3: I'm beginning to learn that iHeart can be as bureaucratic 193 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: as d C was. 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: Yep, And Lee said, yes, that was our plan. We're 195 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: going to put you in there. 196 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: So they put me in there, and Lee tells me 197 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: what they're gonna pay me, and then I'm I'm going 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: to get a contract, you know, blah blah blah blah, 199 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: and I work for I want to say, almost a month. 200 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: Still don't find a contract, can't find a contract any Well, 201 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: where's my contract? Where's my contract? And being the lawyer, 202 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: I am, I'm like, should I just not show up, 203 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: you know? 204 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 4: Or what? 205 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: So I called Lee and I said to Lee, I've 206 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: been doing this for several weeks and I haven't seen 207 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: a contract yet. And I can hear Lee's eyeballs rolling 208 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: in his head over the phone. He says, give me 209 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: some time. I'll call you right back. And Lee calls 210 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: me back it seems like a couple of hours later 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: and says, come in. Found your contract. It was on 212 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: Chris Allingrew's desk, buried on with a bunch of buried 213 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: under a bunch of papers. So I go in and 214 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: I sign it and Lee says this to me. He goes, 215 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: you'll learn that clear Clear Channel at the time, that 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: Clear Channel is as bureaucratic as the federal government. And 217 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: I said Lee that that that can't be true. I've 218 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: been in the belly of the beast and it can't 219 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: be true. I don't know what it was. Maybe two 220 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: years later Lee and I are you know, when we 221 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 3: actually had Christmas parties or something. I was at a 222 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: Christmas party and I said, Lee, you know what, remember 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: me told me how I Clear Channel was as bureaucratic 224 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: as the federal government. You were right, you were exactly right. 225 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: Uh huh so uh I did that, and then I'm 226 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: doing that for quite a while. Then they for like, 227 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, a couple of years or something, and 228 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 3: then they come to him and they say, would you 229 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: like to do We want you to do afternoon drive 230 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: on k how. I jumped at that great opportunity, right 231 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: Afternoon Drive k how. That was after Capitalists and Silverman 232 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: were doing it. So I came in and I did that, 233 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: did that for a long time. Then they came to 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: me and said. 235 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 6: Oh, you know what, we had an idea. 236 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: We got an idea. We want to put you a 237 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: morning drive on k how. And when they came to me, 238 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: it was in this hallway back here, and I when 239 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: they approached me with the idea, I knew in my 240 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: head immediately the answer was yes. But I said to them, well, 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: I have to think about it. What I really had 242 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: to do was go home to tamer and say, hey, listen, 243 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: our life, our life I was about to change dramatically. 244 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: I'll need to be getting up at you know, four 245 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: four thirty in the morning. I'll be I'll be done 246 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: by ten I'll be tired, and you know, I'll be 247 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: going to bed early, and so things are going to 248 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: everything's going to shift. And she was, well, that's that's 249 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: a that's a great opportunity. You've got to do it. 250 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: So I came back the next day and said the 251 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: end was, yes, how long they've been doing this six 252 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: years or something? 253 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that for five years? Yeah, years and years. 254 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 255 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: And so then they come to us when they come 256 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: to me, has it been a week or two? 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: We know this? 258 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 6: Yesterday? 259 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? How long a week? Yesterday? A week? Yesterday? 260 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: They came to me, and we gone through this round 261 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 3: of layoffs, and everybody is on pins and eels, wondering 262 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: if their name's going to be in the hat, you know, 263 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: are we going to get drawn? And so I get 264 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: the text message while I'm at out running errands or something, 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: can you be in my office tomorrow ten fifteen? And 266 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: I think to myself. In fact, I texted back and 267 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: said yes, wait a little while, and then said, do 268 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: I need to bring a paper bag to take my 269 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: stuff home? 270 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no, Let me pick up a banker's 271 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: box so I can pass. 272 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: Actually the truth was, and I told him I was 273 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: actually at office depot getting some banker's by because I 274 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: had all this crap from my mom from my dad's 275 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: estate that I needed to pack away. And then I 276 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: knew I was going down to see my mom to 277 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: take care of that stuff. So I was getting bankers boxes. 278 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: And I said, I'm literally at office depot getting bankers boxes. 279 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: Do I need to bring one in? 280 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 6: No? 281 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: No, no, I promise you it's good. They promised me 282 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: it's good. But then dragging. When I go to Tepper's office, 283 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: Tepper stands up, doesn't shake hands or anything, just says, 284 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: come with me, Bas, you'll see Jojo Row. And I'm thinking, 285 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: wait a minute. He told me this was good news, 286 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: and now we're going to see the boss. 287 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 6: I don't need the two of you to fire my ass. 288 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: You didn't just tell me. 289 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: Look, I've been through this before. Just tell me I'm done. 290 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: I'll get my stuff. That's why I have minimal stuff 291 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: on my desk. I can be out of here in 292 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: three minutes. You don't have to escort me either. By 293 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: the way, here's my key card, which doesn't work half 294 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: the time. I'll just go and be out of your hair. No, no, no, no, 295 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: Tepper's now dragging me in to see Jojo, and JoJo's 296 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: sitting all there kind of pomp. Was like, oh oh yeah, 297 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, good grief, here we go. And then 298 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: they throw this at me. Instantaneously, I say yes, because 299 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: I'm going back home to Koa. Going back home to Koa, which, 300 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: if you recall, is originally Rush Limboslat, that's the old 301 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: Rush was on from ten to one originally before they 302 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: finally decided to or what was it ten to one? 303 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: I forget. They time shifted Russia's show something right. 304 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 6: And then they moved him to be actually live. 305 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be actually live. So it was them ten 306 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: to ten to one or something. Uh So I'm excited 307 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: about it. It's part here's part of the deal. 308 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: Koa. 309 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna stir up Koa. And that's why I need it. 310 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: And that's why I need all of you goobers. And 311 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: I know all of you can't and I understand that. 312 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: So you know, there's only twelve of you plus the Ultraman. 313 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: So if two of you can't, we've got three or 314 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: four in the wings that are waiting, and we'll we'll 315 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: and trust us. You can talk to you can talk 316 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: to the twelve that are on the jury now and 317 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: the ultnate. We pay damn well, we do. We pay 318 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: you very very well to listen to us because we 319 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: need the ratings and we need the sponsors, so we 320 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: share our wealth with you. We're socialists, We're just pure 321 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: communists and socialists. And if you don't do it, then 322 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: we'll force you to do it, because then we just 323 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: become fashionsts and make you do it so that we'll 324 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: do it that way too. Nothing's going to change. That 325 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: was my very first question to both Jojo and Tepper. 326 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: Was what do you want? 327 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: It's the same thing that when the Premiere came to 328 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: me about doing the nationally syndicated program. I asked Julie 329 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: Talbot Talbot who is the president of Premier, and Bill May, 330 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: who's the program director. I said, what are you looking for? Well, 331 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: they've been listening to the program and they said, we 332 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: want exactly what you're doing now. We don't want anything 333 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: to change. Okay. So that was my same question to Joe, 334 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: Joe and Temper, what are you looking for? We want 335 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: exactly what you're doing now. And I thought, and I 336 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: even said to them, are you sure. 337 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 6: You know what we do, right you sure? 338 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know they've both. I know they've both 339 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: listened to us and I but I didn't realize just 340 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: how much over the past almost year they've actually been listening. 341 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: Then I find out that Chris Berry, who is their 342 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: boss's boss and that I know personally he was a 343 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: good guy, he's been listening, as has been Brad Harden, 344 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: who also notes he's Those are the only two corporate 345 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: guys that I really know personally they've been listening. So 346 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: they've all signed off of So we're gonna go over there. 347 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 3: We're going to stir the pops, and I need you 348 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: to help me go stir the pot, all right, So 349 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: going back home, going back home to Koa, and we're 350 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: gonna have them last. 351 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: It'll be a shock of the first day. Yeah, it'll 352 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 4: wake them up. Hey, Michael and Dragon, this is Jennifer. 353 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: Congratulations on your transition. 354 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 6: You're one of us. 355 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: Now go get boys for girls. 356 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: You gotta be freaking joking me, private earballs, you're getting 357 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: an extra. 358 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 6: Hour off a day. Who do you think you are? 359 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: Rush Limba, This's gotta be some kind of DEEI promotion. 360 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: No, seriously, congratulations on your promotion. Guys, here's what we need. 361 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: We'll still be doing talkbacks, still doing the same text line. 362 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: That doesn't change because I can't let those other people 363 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: use our dedicated text line. 364 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: That's not gonna change. 365 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: And we'll need eventually, and Dragon, I started talking about 366 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: this yesterday, we'll need new rules of engagement. 367 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: So Chris, you know what, Chris, I'm talking about, Force Gump. 368 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: Well need we'll need new rules of engagement, but we're 369 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 3: gonna have some guidelines for them. So I'll try to 370 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: come up with the guidelines and we'll get those up 371 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: on the website. But we will need new rules of engagement. 372 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: And trust me, you do not want Michael to do 373 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 5: the rules of engagement. That's how it all started. Michael 374 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: would spend you know, five ten minutes talking about the 375 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: rules of engagement because he's really bad at it. So 376 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 5: we need some of you professionals out there to give 377 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: us something a minute or less. 378 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 6: To do the rules of engagement. 379 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: You're going with me over there? Yeah, how did that happen? 380 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: I don't know. 381 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I still have that notebook where I 382 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: begged them to make sure you stayed as my producer. 383 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 6: How would that work? Out for you. 384 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: Well, let's just say. 385 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: That sometimes you just you learn from sometimes you know, 386 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: learn from your mistakes and you make the same request 387 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: you anything going to change quitting dragon, Oh no, thing's 388 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: gonna change. 389 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 6: Well, isn't that the definition of insanity? 390 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: It is, that's total insanity. But you know what, may 391 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 3: I at my age, I don't give a rats ass. 392 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: So there's that. Let's see, there was a text that 393 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: I wanted to share. 394 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 6: Here. 395 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: It is Goober number sixty ninety five Mike wrt. 396 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: F USh cool kids. 397 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: We know that means with regard to with regard to 398 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: nine thirty, I don't give a rats ass. I listened 399 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: to the podcast here in Burbank, California. Now let's just 400 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: stop right there. Thank you. I will get the map. 401 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: I gotta get the map. I know you look at 402 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: me like, well share you bull crap? 403 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 6: See it right? 404 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: So the podcast will stay the same, Also, same RSS 405 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 3: feed everything. But here's what I thought. I it's been 406 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: it's been a while since I've been in Burbank. In fact, 407 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: the last time I was in LA I didn't make 408 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: it to Burbank. I was on the South side. 409 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 4: Anyway. 410 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: Here I listened to podcasts here in Burbank, California, where 411 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: the cops are allowed to do their jobs, an island 412 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: of sanity between sodom and Gomorrah. No tenths on the 413 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 3: sidewalk here. 414 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 6: What oh, what take pictures? We don't believe you, We 415 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 6: don't believe. 416 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: You, but then we just kind of expect that. Well, yeah, 417 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: you all lie to us all the way, all the 418 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: time anyway. Uh, and then let's see seventy four to 419 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 3: thirty one, Mike, congrats on the promotion. Moving over to 420 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 3: the fifty thousand, what blowtorch? The seat once held by 421 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: the great Mike Rosen. Who's that Mike? 422 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: Who Rosan? Who's that guy? I don't know? 423 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: Must have been you know, probably somebody'd sat in that 424 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 3: seat for every time and always said, you know what, 425 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: what was? He always had this habit of mister button, 426 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: mister button button. Yeah, mister hoole button. I wish you 427 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: well and I'll miss your show on my two and 428 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: before school starts. Well, you know, you can always put 429 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: the little secret little hearing aid in your ear, butt 430 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 3: in your ear and listen to me that way. All right, 431 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: let's get started. I I've kind of reached my limit 432 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: with the Democrats complaining and bitching and moaning about Well, 433 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: here's Chuck Schumer. 434 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 7: So Trump is weaponizing hunger. He's turning millions of children 435 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 7: and seniors and veterans into political pawns. He's choosing politics 436 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 7: over people, cruelty over compassion. 437 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: And let's be clear about this. They've been on a crusade. 438 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 7: The Republicans have been on a crusade against SNAP all year. 439 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 7: They slashed it by two hundred billion dollars this summer 440 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 7: to pay for their tax cuts for billionaires. So they 441 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 7: don't They've never wanted SNAP and they don't want it now. 442 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Really, Chuck, weaponizing hunger? Is that what you think is 443 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: going on? Weaponizing hunger? Hunger? Then an Iraqi refugee, this 444 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 3: comes from, uh, well apparently this take you. 445 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: Listen out wh government support. 446 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: I cannot stay maybe a month or two months, PEMA 447 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: County Chairman Rex Scott told News for Tucson he's deeply 448 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: concerned about the impact on local refugees. 449 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: And so an Iraqi refugee is telling the Tucson City 450 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: Council or commissioners. I'm not sure which one it was, 451 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: I can't stay here without SNAP benefits. Okay, maybe before 452 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: you came to the United States, and I don't know 453 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 3: what his background. I don't know whether he's one of 454 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: our you know, he was one of our interpreters or 455 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: he was you know what he did, but then go 456 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: back go home. It really bugs me to think that 457 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: we're playing politics with this program that quite. 458 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: Frankly, is out of control. 459 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: We're not addressing Remember how they always used to talk 460 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: about Democrats talk about the root causes of things. We 461 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 3: got to a deal. We've got to deal with the 462 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: root causes. Well, why not deal with the root causes 463 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: of the snap program. 464 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 8: Michelle white House has said that building the ballroom is 465 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 8: their top priority. Is Donald Trump's top priority? Was miss 466 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 8: Levitts quote. So again, one of the I think distinctions 467 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 8: between a first term and a second term is that 468 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 8: which is most unpopular is most front and center. And 469 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 8: it gets to what Charlie's talking about. The Hebrews. John Jabra, 470 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 8: who I just interviewed from my podcast, said he's sort 471 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 8: of over trying to figure out why he's doing something. 472 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 8: We should just talk about the ramifications of the consequences. 473 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 8: So I'm going to try to live that lesson the 474 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 8: ramifications of letting foodstamps expire. Is that children will die, 475 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 8: and again some of them may be the children of 476 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 8: people who. 477 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 6: Voted for him. 478 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: They're gonna die. 479 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 3: The children are going to die because there is we 480 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 3: are such an a whole country that there is not 481 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: a food bank anywhere. There's not a church anywhere, there's 482 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: not a charitable organization, there's nothing in the private sector 483 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: anywhere that's gonna feed kids. In fact, the billionaires that 484 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: look like the little Monopoly character, you know, the billionaire 485 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: and Monopoly, they're just walking around smoking their big fat 486 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: ass cigars, going huh, let them eat cake, which, by 487 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: the way, Marie Antoine never said, but let them eat cake. Yeah, 488 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: that's the Democrat's version of the snap program. They children 489 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: are going to die because they can't get their bag 490 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: of potato chips. Now, yesterday I wanted to and I 491 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: finally just gave up because if you go on X 492 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: and I'm sure on TikTok there's a bazillion of them, 493 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: but I don't have a TikTok account. If you go 494 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: on X, there's video after video after a video of 495 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: mothers who are threatening to come after members of Congress 496 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: and kill them if they don't get if they go 497 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: to the grocery store and their EBT card doesn't work, One, 498 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna steal the food, and two then they're gonna 499 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: go after whatever politicians they can find and they're gonna 500 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: kill them. So that's the gratitude that we get, as 501 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: the taxpayers who fund this, or my grandchildren who will 502 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: fund the debt that we go into to fund this. 503 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: It's freaking unbelievable to me that they're now playing politics 504 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: with this. Because Fetterman has agreed, as has I think 505 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: the senator from New Mexico, and one other. We need 506 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: two other Democrats. The House passed the clean continuing Resolution, 507 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 3: including funding for snapping. Everything else went to the Senate. 508 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: I want you to understand procedurally what's going on in 509 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: the Senate. We need sixty votes. We need five Democrats. 510 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: We have three. We need two more Democrats. All would 511 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: take is Chuck Schumer to say to his caucus, I 512 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: need two of you to go vote for this. It's 513 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: the same thing that we voted before and before and before. 514 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: But Chuck Schumer will not do it because Chuck Schumer 515 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: is scared to death of some little, whining, little nutjob 516 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 3: named AOC and he's afraid that she's going to primary him. 517 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I hope she does. 518 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: You know, New York, you might as well just go 519 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: down the crap or anyway, if you're going to elect 520 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, the Democrat Socialists of America, the communists, the 521 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: guy whose mother says he's not really an American, he's 522 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: truly a Ugandan. If you're gonna elect him to be 523 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: a mayor, then you might as well elect AOC to 524 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: be your US senator. To New York, You're just you're 525 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: You're dead to me, absolutely dead to me. And if 526 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: you're not, you're gonna be dead to your sales pretty soon. Anyway, 527 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer could change this in one second if he 528 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: wanted to, but he won't. He's the one playing politics. 529 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: The House Republicans, including House Democrats, did their job. They 530 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: passed this cr on a bipartisan basis. So if you 531 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: never went to Schoolhouse Rock and you don't understand exactly 532 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: how a bill becomes a bill, remember mister Bill, Well, no, 533 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: not that mister Bill from Sunday Night Live, but the 534 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: guy that did the how a bill becomes a bill? 535 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: Guy that one. 536 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: Well, the bill in this the House passed by both 537 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: Republicans and Democrats, went to the Senate the continuing Resolution, 538 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: the debate on that is ongoing, to stop the debate, 539 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: which is called, in Parliamentarian language, the invoke cloture, meaning 540 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: stop the debate. That's what requires sixty votes. That's where 541 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: we need the five Democrats, and we have three. It's 542 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: not even to pass the continuing resolution, it's just to 543 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: stop the debate so that they could then vote, which 544 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: only takes a majority, just a majority of those present, 545 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: not even a majority, but just a majority of those 546 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: present to pass the bill. That's what Chuck Schumer's playing, 547 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: So it is all on him. I've tried to avoid 548 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: talking about this, but I've just reached my limit with 549 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: it because the Democrats are the ones that are blocking it. 550 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: Democrats in the House passed it, and some Democrats in 551 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 3: the Senate are willing to pass it. 552 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer is not. 553 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 8: And some of them may, you know, experience hunger and 554 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 8: food insecurity and be mail nourished. 555 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: But well, yes they may experience, you know, some hunger 556 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: and but in terms of being male nourished, they probably are. 557 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: All probably are anyway, because snaps used primarily to go 558 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: to the convenience store and buy a bunch of crap 559 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: junk food that they feed at least when you look 560 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: at the videos from the people posted on x But 561 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: have you ever thought about what snap is, what it costs, 562 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: who uses it? 563 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: Well, don't go. 564 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: Away, say Michael and Dragon. Your rules of engagement are 565 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 2: going to have to change. Don't you think some of 566 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: us in the audience, well at least two of them 567 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: in the audience, should send you some ideas for your 568 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: rules of engagement. 569 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 6: Does this mean I'm going to have to change the dial? 570 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 6: I don't like change. I still have cassette eight track 571 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 6: and reel to reel. 572 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 4: You get the podcast on reel to reel. So there's that. 573 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: So what were you saying with the first one about 574 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: the rules of engagement? 575 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 6: Well, I mean. 576 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: Nobody listens the entire show, not even me. So we've 577 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 5: just got to continue to hit people over the head 578 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: because they're the ones leaving the talkbacks saying that we 579 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 5: need new rules of engagement. So if they're leaving the 580 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 5: talkback saying we need them, so they better leave them. 581 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 5: So if I and there's quite a few of them 582 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 5: saying that we need new rules of engagement to. 583 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 6: Go ahead. 584 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: Well, but we need to give some guidelines because clearly 585 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: it's still the situation with Michael Brown. It's but I'm 586 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: not quite again. I've got to learn. I'll ask Mandy, 587 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: do they the blonde chick? 588 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 6: Shit? 589 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: Can you believe I've actually got to I'll have to 590 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: interface with the blonde chick. 591 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 6: Tossed the whole way daily? 592 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: Daily, every day she'll come in and like, m I 593 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: hope she doesn't touch me, you know, like, oh, you're like, 594 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: can I get any one of those big old hugs? 595 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll just give her a big hug the first 596 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: time and now and don't put an end to it. 597 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: That way. 598 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: She'll stay out of the studio until I leave you. 599 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: She'll hide around the corner until I walk out, and 600 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: then she'll sneak in, spray the yesol do all of that. 601 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: But there we've got to tell them exactly, like what 602 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: did they call koa ka? 603 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 4: They just they don't have like a tagline or anything. 604 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 6: They have the tagline, But I mean, it's okay, but 605 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 6: the rules. 606 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: Of engagement need to people where to go. That's eight 607 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: fifty a money for one. 608 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 5: FM y but you don't you hardly do that here. 609 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 5: On six point thirty K. How why don't But. 610 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: I said, but the rules of engagement, I'm not. I 611 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: don't carry the load here. They carry the load. You 612 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: carry the load. I just come in to fill in occasionally. 613 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: Tell somebody said earlier, what was it, I was going 614 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: to turn into rush limbad Just you know, not work 615 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: that hard. Yeah, I was seeing more like Johnny Carson. 616 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: Just you know, every Friday, just tell Tepa, I'm sick. 617 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: I got enough sickly. If I could do that for 618 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: a couple of years, just every Friday I got the flu. 619 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 5: But wait a minute, but I would actually do Mondays. 620 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 5: People are concerned about Fridays. Oh, they are concerned about Friday. 621 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 6: We see. 622 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: Let me assure you that on Friday that at eleven am, 623 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: you will receive your weekly dough so that you can 624 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: make it through the weekend. You'll get your taxpayer relief shots. 625 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: Now I'm telling you, right now, I would just say 626 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: to anybody that is a potential new listener over on 627 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: the blowtorch, you're gonna you're gonna have a little bit 628 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: of an adjustment. Because we deal in reality. We're we're 629 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: this is this is real world stuff. We talk about 630 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: so you'll get taxpayer relief shots on Fridays. That's gonna 631 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 3: be a shock. No, you know, if Susan Feeland's Feeland's 632 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 3: doing the Susan Feeling is doing, the traffic on Fridays 633 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: at noon will be like, you know, pile ups everywhere 634 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: because people will be like. 635 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 4: Oh my god, why is that on the radio? How 636 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: does that on the radio. 637 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: Probably we'll get snapped when we get back, because I 638 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: really do want you to understand just this is another 639 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: example of a of a program that's gone out of control, 640 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: but because everybody has shifted their compassion to the government 641 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 6: For screwed