1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Bring on, doctor Dave Schneider, brought to by Ortho Colorado 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hospital part of Common Spirit Health. Go to Orthoclorado dot org. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: All right, doctor Snyder. So he left earlier for a 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: leg issue, but then he came back in. He played 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: until right before half when on an awkward tackle with 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: George Pickens, it seemed like he got some kind of 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: shoulder injury. That's at least how they're describing it. What 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: did you see? 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: It concerned me a little bit, Ryan, and we all 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: saw when they did the replay the kind of odd 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: tackle he got spun around a little bit. The concern 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: is when a player grasped the front of his chest 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: like that, any sports medicine surgeon starts wondering, Uh, oh, 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: I hope that's not a partial peck terror pector alis 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: major terror, because that's a great way of doing it. 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: When you're loading and twisting and trying to throw someone down, 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: you can tweak your peck that way. And so I'm concerned. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Okay, But just a follow up on that, So does 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: that mean? So what are the grades of that? Because 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we know that the super scary one that 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: knocks you out for the season. Is there one in 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: between there that and what would that look like and 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: how long would he be out? 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: There are different grades, and of course a much more 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: common injury would be just like a strain to the 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: shoulder or maybe the shoulder joint itself came out of 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: joint a little bit and that that can hurt. So 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: this is me hopefully I'm making too much of this, 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: but your peck. You can injure your peck. And every 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: year in the league there's you know, eight to ten 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: pectra alis major tears. It tends to be in and 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: the guys in the lines, in the trenches or a linebacker. 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: But when a player like PS two suffers, it usually 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: more of a partial thickness kind of injury, and that 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: means you're out for a few weeks and then you're back. 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: So there's no doubt that he's probably already had his MRI. 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: It was either last night or this morning. And I'm 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: hoping that I'm making too much of it, but I'm 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: a little concerned. 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Oh, yesterday we saw a bevy of injuries, and none 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: more than Cam Scatibul, who was really exciting for the 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: fan base in New York, and he seemed to have 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: dislocated his ankle. What would that surgery or that rehab 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: be like for him as you tried to recover. 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: Nick. You know, normally when we see that replay and 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: you see someone's leg coming off to the side, it 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: can be just a pure ankle dislocation, but that's actually 48 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: really rare. But usually as up happening is you break 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: a couple of bones that come around at the ankle joint, 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: both on the inside, the medial side of the ankle 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: and the outside. On the outside is that little skinny 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: fibula bone and when you roll your angle you can 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: see that part of the angle swell up higher. When 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: you get a fractured dislocation like Scataboo had, almost certainly 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 2: you break the fibula, that skinny bone on the outside, 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: You break that up high, you know, like six to 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: ten inches above the ankle, and then the whole thing 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: and can dislocate, which is why on the field you 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: can actually snap that back into joint and make their 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: guys legs straight like they did for him and put 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: that air cast on. Now, sometimes when that happens, a 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: little bone hooks through it makes it an open fracture. 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: That's why you have surgery within hours. Then he would 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: have surgery in Philadelphia last night. The nice thing as 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: gruesome as a crooked leg looks, because it's exactly what 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott had, It's exactly what Chris Godwin had with 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: the Bucks earlier this season. The surgery is pretty easy 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: and it's usually not as much damage to the joint itself. 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: So I think Kim he'll miss the whole rest of 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: the season, He'll be great for next year. Giants fans 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: should take heart. 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: Doug. 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: I have to ask you this question because our football 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: family lost someones over the past weekend. Jets, Nick Mango, 75 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: and he was dealing with a rare genetic kidney disorder. 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: And I don't know how if you can add any 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: more information to that, but I know, even saying of 78 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: his family, there was no one in his family was 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 3: old blood type, and I just found that to be rare. 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, I'm so glad you're bringing this up. You know, 81 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: Nick apparently had a type of genetic kidney disorder that 82 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: predisposed him to early kidney failure, which is why he 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: was on dialysis. It's not so much the blood type, 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: it's the actual tissue type. The genetic type that they 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: search for when they're doing a live organ donor for 86 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: people who need, say a liver transplant, a kidney transplant. 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: You have to be an exact genetic mass. So it's 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: not so much blood type because I thought the same 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: thing you did Nick in the paper about being certain 90 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: blood type. That's not the issue. It's the more precise 91 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: genetic typing. But it's worth talking about because there can 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: be no doubt. There's some people listening right now that 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: have early kidney failure and they haven't thought it through. 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: So maybe they're just feeling lethargic, or the look of 95 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: their pee, their urine is different, or they're getting swelling 96 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: at their hands and feet. You should not ignore that. 97 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: And if you're listening right now and you're thinking, man, 98 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: my hands and feet are swelling more. I just kind 99 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: of feel out of it or tired, or I feel 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: like I haven't to take a nap, pay attention to that. 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: See your doctor, take a simple blood test, and the 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: simple urine test can catch it before it turns into 103 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: something serious. And prayers out to Nick Mangle and his family. 104 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: He was only in his early forties, way too young 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: to pass away. 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Perfectly, said doc thank you so much for the advice 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: and always appreciate you popping on with us. 108 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, Thank you guys, all right. 109 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: Doctor David Scheider from Ortho Colorado Rod's by Ortho Colorado Hospital, 110 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: part of Common Spirit Health. Go to Orthoclorado dot org.