1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: I may or may not have been during your career 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: in Anthony Harris fan, I just may or may not 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: clearly I was. I mean from like, you know, the 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: first time you and I met each other, and you're 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: you're a Cavalier, is it? Wah whoo wah who yeah, 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: wah who wah. Right then I'm from Washington, d C. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: So I remember back you know, dow Memory Lane, we go. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the old guy right now. When there 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: were four channels. And it's like when we got the 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: ACC game of the Week, my Maryland Terrapins against the 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Virginia Cavaliers on a Sunday night, Well that was everything. 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Like Ralph Sampson played for Virginia back in the day. Yeah, 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: and and I couldn't remember if it was Yahoo, it 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: was Wahoo's something. Yeah, but that's the college. Anthony Harris, 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: former Vikings safety, attended longtime safety for the Minnesota Vikings. 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: And from the first time I met you really with 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: one of like the first conversations we had, I just 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: like stories like that, and and what's cool about the 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: NFL compared to certainly the NBA. All right, if you're 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: a second round pick in the NBA, it's about twenty 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: percent chance that you might be on a team and 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: might play eight minutes a game on the NFL, like 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: one of the great three techniques defensive tackles, well, certainly 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: in the history of the Minnesota Vikings, but one of 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: the best in the history of the NFL. John Randall 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: went to Texas A and m Kingsville undrafted. Hof Adam 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Thielen just retired, you know, Adam Thielen. He and Marcus 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Sheryls Maine men. Marcus Man. I'd love to see Marcus. 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: What a wonderful young man. Yeah, awesome guy, soft spoken, 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: so awesome, so great at what he did. But Maine men, 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Marcus and Adam, and maybe this was you too. I 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: guess I've never asked. They had to try out just 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: to get to rookie cap so they didn't even get invitations. 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: They had to try out and then had long, wonderful careers. 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: I just love stories like that. You were undrafted. Yours 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: was kind of like them men. I mean, it's like 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: there can be smell of the roses, moments with your daughter, 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: with a beautiful day, with a friendship, with an interception, 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: really anything in life. But yeah, you have a lot 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: of reasons to smell the roses looking back at your career. Man. 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm sitting over here and watching you know, 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: the coverage of some of the past games, of things 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: that happened in the past when I've played, and so 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: kind of takes you down memory lane and kind of 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: takes you to a moment of like, how do you 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: feel in that moment, and what all the work that 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: you put in and lead up to those moments? 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: How did your daughter two or four? She's two? Okays, 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: like afore you Okay, Well that's good, and hopefully when 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: she's four she doesn't act like a thirteen year old. 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Just keep that squck moving slowly. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: So she's two, which means she's six years removed from 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, firing up YouTube there's daddy, Yeah, and you 54 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: can be I mean, just some of those interceptions we 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: just heard Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers. I mean, 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: those aren't easy guys to pick off unless there was 57 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: like a giant rush and they just chucked it up 58 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: in the air or something. But I mean those are 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: hard guys to intercept, right, Yeah, Yeah, that was a 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: great player. 61 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: So you know that class was you know, very talented, 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 2: very experienced, and to you know, be able to play 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: against those guys and compete and then have some success 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: against them. 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, that's what you dream about. 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: You know, you dream about big making, big time plays 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: and big time moments, and so to. 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Go undrafted to bottom my way each year and. 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: Then have the opportunity to play against those guys and 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: go out there and have success. You know, that's what 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: you come to the NFL and try to make happen 72 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: for yourself. 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Do you do you ever go to Timberwolves games? Yeah? 74 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Did you go last night? No? I didn't go last night, 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: but there was almost a fight, oh man nas Reed 76 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: and a player young player named Mogay. I mean, it's 77 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: it's it's the The All Star break is in two days, 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: well really two and a half three days. I mean, 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: this is just the time of the year. They've played 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: sixty something. People are bugging each other on teams or 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: for other teams and are high right now. Man, when 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, was there ever a point like during the 83 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: course of a season. Now, you guys play once a week, 84 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: but after a game Monday, you got that day Tuesday mandatory. 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: You get that to chill, if it's even a chill, 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: because the good ones like you, ye, well they got 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the surface out and you're starting to work on ted 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Gin at like ten am on a Tuesday, so you 89 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: can come in Wednesday prepared. And not everybody does it 90 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: that way. Anthony did it that way and that's why 91 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: he lasted. But does there ever come a point? I 92 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: would imagine if you're on a team you know is 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: not going to the playoffs, you're playing a lot of 94 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: snaps a game. You gotta be prepared just in case 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: you have to leave and other people are watching your 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: game where you mentally and physically, it's just like, holy cow, 97 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: am I frustrated, I'm sour, I'm tired. Does it ever 98 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: get like that? Does it ever get like that? 99 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: I think over the years, you know, you just learned 100 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: to you kind of going all the piland in the 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: sense of, you know, that's what's quiet for the success, 102 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: and so they're all moments when there's frustration. Oftentimes that 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: build ups after you know, close losses or you know, 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: you kin you kind of get in a rut where 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: you can't quite finish games. But oftentimes you know that's 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: where being a professional and having experience and being in 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: a good locker room, guys can kind of you know, 108 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: you take a day, take a look at the film, 109 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: you figure out how to get better. 110 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: So you focus on getting better. 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: And I think that right there just allows you to 112 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: lock into the process and really just come in each 113 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: day and understand I have an opportunity to improve. And 114 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: if I don't put into work, if I don't put 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: in the time, then you know, things ultimately just won't 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: change on our own. 117 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: What was Zimmer a hard driver with you? Because like 118 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: when you would watch him at OTAs sometimes training camp, 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: big time during the season with Xavier Roads, I mean, 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: now that's how you end talent right there? Okay, and 121 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: you were too, but I mean he's a corner, you're 122 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: a safety. I mean, holy cow, he because he saw 123 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: greatness and Xavier, Josh, you're off two and a half 124 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: inches and your hips were a half second too late 125 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: on the turn. I mean he really drove acts trying 126 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: to get into greatness. Was he like that with you? 127 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's moments you know, maybe he's not quite on 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: a guy like myself or as he was on Xavier, 129 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: just because you know, Xavier was full time guy came 130 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: in played really well right away, and so for myself, 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: you know, coming in and kind of being a backup 132 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: there was I got fewer reps, but just as much 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: as when I was out there, that was that same 134 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: level of expectations. And even though you know, I'd be 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: a step close and get a pass breakup when it 136 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: could have been an interception, if I did something wrong 137 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: or if I could have done something a little better, 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: he'd let me know. 139 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: As a player, I respected that. 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: You know, we try to chase perfection and hope that 141 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: you know, we can try to obtain it, but if 142 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: we can't, we can just fall a little bit short 143 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: and be pretty exceptional. 144 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Exceptional. What what what is your how long did you 145 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: play in the league? Eight years? Nine years? Eight years? 146 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 147 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Eight here and then Philadelphia? All right, So like what 148 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: is your take on what you will hear on the 149 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: radio here, on podcasts here and see on YouTube TV 150 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: whatever with the word leadership, you know, because like with 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: the assumption Harrison Smith retires and it's it's not a 152 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: ten to ten, I mean, with the way he played 153 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: last year in Florence is coming back and you know, 154 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: it's really challenging being a leader in that defense. And 155 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Harry was good last year. He was better at the 156 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: end of last year than he was the year before. Okay, 157 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: But like CJ. Ham too, all right, so CJ has 158 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: retired now. Specific like I know him both quite well, 159 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, through through from Christian work and speaking and 160 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: things like that. I got to know CJ better than 161 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: I did Harrison. I have ten of ten respect for both. 162 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: But like I would qualify c J. Ham as a leader. 163 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: But if I explain the reasons why, it's not like 164 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning where everybody can see going 165 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: up and down the offensive line cussing, Well, what a 166 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: leader of that is? Look at him? Looking at him 167 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: snapping these guys into shape and stuff. So like what 168 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: is your definition of a leader in the law, locker room, 169 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: on the field. And then like Harrison Smith and c J. Ham, 170 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: would they qualify? 171 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me a leader that's that's somebody 172 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: who has you know, that positive influences and you know 173 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: they understand that people are you know, watching them, whether 174 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: they're younger guys, whether there's veterans coming into a new 175 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: team and their their culture ceters. So some guys there 176 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: are the vocal guys, you know, who aren't afraid to 177 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: say what needs to be said if that's going to 178 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: help them make the team better. And so some of 179 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: those guys take those steps in those vocal moments, whether 180 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: it's on the sideline, and media just happens to catch it. 181 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: And then there are also guys who lead with their actions, 182 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: and they lead in a slightly quieter way in terms 183 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: of maybe they're giving more feedback and encouragement to the 184 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: players throughout the practicing, throughout the week and meeting rooms, 185 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: showing them how to carry themselves, you know, in the building, 186 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: in the weight room, how to take care of themselves, 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: how to study, and those are some of the things 188 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: that you don't quite see sometimes quite publicized on the sideline, 189 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: But in those manners, those that's ways that guys step 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: up and really have an impact on not only just 191 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: the younger guys, but other players who coming into the 192 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: organization who understand the message that the head coach and 193 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: the organization is trying to lead with, and they lead 194 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: with example in moments, and sometimes they're vocal as well. 195 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Well, like Harrison Smith. I mean, and if this happened, 196 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, then you would know better than me. But 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: like Harrison, okay, guys like say a bunch of DB's 198 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: defensive players, whole team around, guys bleeping this, bleeping that, 199 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: sick of it, and gather everybody around and like be 200 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: the center of the attention. I don't see that being 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith. But that doesn't mean he's not a leader 202 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: because the way you just describe things, So say young 203 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Harris, undrafted out of Virginia, Say Jerry Gray was 204 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: your DB's coach, all right, so say Jerry Gray, hit 205 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Man whomever are like and and and and then they 206 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: everybody thinks you got something down and then you mess 207 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: up during the game. So Harrison could like show leadership 208 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: by like sitting next to you after the game, looking 209 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: at it on the surface and just pointing at it, going, 210 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: bra that's it. Yeah, I mean, because you're like, yes, yes, yes, 211 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not you or anybody. 212 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's also a lot of body 213 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: language that goes into play as well, you know, so 214 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: sometimes you know it's it's a high level game, it's 215 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: a high pressure game, and you know you're going against 216 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: highly talented players as well, so there are gonna be 217 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: times where guys make a play, and so leadership it 218 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: doesn't always need to be correction in the forms of, 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, being extremely vocal. 220 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: It could be it could be leadership. 221 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: In the sense of just making eye contact and hitting 222 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: a head nod, which can be very subtle and you know, 223 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: not picked up on camera, but moments like that, you know, 224 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: you're you're basically signaling into players that hey, I got 225 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: your back, or hey, go to the next play, you know, 226 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: kind of quick reset. And so I've had experiences with 227 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: with Harrison when I was a younger player or in 228 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: my career where you know, I make plays and he'd 229 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: come over in practice and he might give me a 230 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: tip about you know, hey, you can once you see this, 231 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: you can move like this, or just body mechanics, but 232 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: slightly tips about how to move within the defense. 233 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: And I think those are things that. 234 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: You know, maybe didn't quite get picked up in terms 235 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: of seeing how he shows up as a leader. But 236 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: then he's also a very experienced guy, you know, in 237 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: a defense like Brian Flores, He's out there, he signaling, 238 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: he understands what's going on, he understands what offenses, how 239 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: they're trying to attack him. And so he's also helping 240 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: not only the secondary, but he's helping the linebackers as 241 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: well in terms of getting in and out of checks 242 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: and making sure that communication is moving efficiently. 243 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: Anthony Harris, former Viking safety in studio chatting football, etc. 244 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Zach Pereze about fifteen minutes from now on Olympic Hockey back. 245 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: I want to get back to an NBA fight for 246 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: a second, all right now. I don't know if you 247 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: saw the highlights or anything. I don't want to say 248 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: it to Chris Finch because this team was playing at 249 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: the same time, but his game was super boring as 250 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: they're killing in Atlanta. So I got Leake pass ye. 251 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: So like that's my chill, part of my chill. I'll 252 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: sit back, go up and down of games. Who's playing 253 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: right now? Charlotte. Charlotte was playing Detroit. I tuned into 254 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: that thing, man, like a minute before a big legitimate 255 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: NBA fight broke out. And NBA fights can I mean 256 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: it can be some slapping and some pillow fighting and 257 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: things like that because so many people get in in 258 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: the middle and who knows, man, I mean maybe the 259 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: people have the same agent, and it's like that's bad 260 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden it's bad for business and 261 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: things like this happened, wasn't the case in Charlotte? Did 262 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: you happen to catch any highlights like online or something? 263 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: I cost some highlights one, So like if you now 264 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: see you played with helmets, all right, So if you're 265 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: mixing it up with somebody and trash talking and like 266 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Dura the Center for Detroit with Moda Baate a 267 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: Center for Charlotte, if somebody puts their hand in your 268 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: face and cumps your face during the heat of the action, 269 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: you might be throwing right. Yeah, it's a little bit more. 270 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: You know. 271 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: In football you have the helmet honestly a lot more protection, 272 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: you know. So you know there are times when guys 273 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: grab face mask, but basketball, you know, there's really no 274 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: physical barrier between you and whoever you know you're in 275 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: the altercation with, unless somebody tries to separate you. 276 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: No tempers can fly high. 277 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: Obviously, the cameras are out there, and sometimes a little 278 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: bit of ego. You know, you don't want to be 279 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: the guy who gets you know, punched in the face 280 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: or slapping the face and on television. So you know, 281 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: some guys kind of overreact, and some guys, you know, 282 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: they just kind of try to stay away from it. 283 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're in if your court side for 284 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: that game, and I don't know, you're probably a Charlotte fan, 285 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: and that thing starts to trickle by where you are, 286 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: what do you do. 287 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: Do you You got to try to get out the way, really, yeah, yeah, 288 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: you know you got to stand right there. 289 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: No, you got to try to get out the way. 290 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: In my opinion, you know what, if you catch a stray, 291 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: a stray jab, then that might be fifteen million coming 292 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: your way. Yeah. 293 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: I think as a fan who's spectating courtside, I think 294 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: that's why you have to get out of the way, 295 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: because you may catch a stray you know. You know 296 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: some guys, some guys are going to meet in the 297 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: middle of the ring. Some guys are gonna you know, 298 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: dancing around the edge, and if your courtside, somebody can 299 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: ended up in your lap if you fall, if they 300 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: fall down and get pushed into you. So you know, 301 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: you kind of got to maneuver around a little bit 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: and try to stay out of it too much. 303 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: There's no chance if there's a fight between two NBA 304 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: players in front of you. Are you thinking, how do 305 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: I get out of here? No, you're gonna be going yep, yeah, 306 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: you're a competitor. 307 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: As a competitor, I'm gonna I'm definitely gonna be tuned 308 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: in and watching just as if they're playing. But you know, 309 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm also gonna be aware of how they're moving. If 310 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: they're out near a center court, I think I'm fine. 311 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: You know, if they start moving around towards the edge 312 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: on the side, you know, you got to kind of 313 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: be thinking ahead, kind of like football. You got to 314 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: make sure you know you're in position to or getting 315 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: out of position in terms of where they could be. 316 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: So have you ever got Did you ever get into 317 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: a fight in a football game? 318 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: No? 319 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: I didn't get into many too many fights. There were 320 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: some times where I think, I think vividly. I remember 321 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: an office a lineman blocked Eric Wilson. I thought, blocked 322 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: them a little bit too long, blocked them off the 323 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: field of play, and so I kind of ran over 324 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: protect my teammate, gave him a little push. It was 325 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: a guy I knew, and it was kind of more 326 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: so like, hey man, you know we're on the opposite teams. 327 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, kind of get 328 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: into somebody business. Somebody can get hurt on the sideline. Yeah, 329 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: So I'm like, we want to protect each other. This 330 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: is how we, you know, make a living for our family. 331 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: So I kind of went over in that situation that 332 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: stoo up with my teammate Eric Wilson. Us A. 333 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Probably if I'm running the team and you know which 334 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't really know, like I know where 335 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: they are in the salary cap over it and all that. 336 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: And then you got brazent Skis. He's got some money 337 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: magician to him, so you can push things left and 338 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: right and pretty much get almost what you want no 339 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: matter where you are from a salary cap standpoint. Eric 340 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Wilson has become, for my taste, a priority free agent 341 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty six Minnesota Vikings. This is a 342 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: guy man who got like a ten thousand dollars signing 343 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: bonus when he was on Like, what was your first 344 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: signing bonus out Virginia? Like it was ten grand? Yeah, 345 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: Well they were saving a lot of money back then, 346 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: getting you and Eric Wilson were combined twenty grand? Are 347 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Holy cow? That's not a National Football 348 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: League negotiation. That's a shell game. But anyway from there 349 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: through a bunch of one year deals. Love what the 350 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: organization did last year, they wanted Eric green Bay from 351 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: what I understand, had a decision between Eric Wilson and 352 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Isaiah McDuffie and QWAC or whomever rolled in. It's basically like, 353 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: here's the deal. Okay, nobody's offering you two years. Well 354 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: we're going to double your pay, but just come now. 355 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: And they did and went from one and a half 356 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: to three. Well, I mean Eric's like coming into his 357 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: tenth year. Yeah, he is well, and I mean, like, 358 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: what kind of deal could that be? It's got to 359 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: be at least two years here there somewhere, right, he's 360 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of somebody's got to give him a little bit 361 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of security. Yeah, I think. 362 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: I think that's the one thing that you know, you 363 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: give guy security who's been working like that, You take 364 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure off of guys to go out 365 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: and perform, and guys like that who've worked extremely hard 366 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: over the years to be able to get that security 367 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 2: as them. It adds to them an extra level of 368 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: you know, focus and just being able to go out 369 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: there and play and enjoy the game. And I think 370 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: he's shown that over the years. Whenever he gets an opportunity, 371 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: he shows up. The energy that he brings, it's unbelievable, Yeah, 372 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. 373 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, we had to pull back on his special 374 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: team snaps. Yeah, you know when when he when he 375 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: let's just say, ascended to this role that he didn't 376 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: have and then he kept it, which is no our 377 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: feelings here, it's a business. They had to come back 378 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: on his special teams reps because he was basically playing 379 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: almost every play in the game. 380 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I noticed, you know, his level will 381 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: play not only defensively, but also in special teams. You know, 382 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: him coming in I believe a few games, I'm not 383 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: sure if it was this year or previous year, but 384 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: he was showing up blocking punts and those are big 385 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: game changing plays. And so I just remember thinking, as 386 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: his role increases defensively, you know that they're gonna have 387 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 2: to have somebody else who steps up in a special 388 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: team role and pick up kind of where there might 389 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: be a low because of the number of snaps that 390 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: he's playing. 391 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: To just think about. You know, it's it's a cliche, 392 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: but you know when you hear it's such a game 393 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: of inches. Okay, you've heard that a million times, right, Yeah, Well, 394 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean this just personifies it because you're talking about 395 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: special teams. And I'm certainly not saying the Vikings absolutely 396 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: would have been a playoff team, would have advanced in 397 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs or whatever. But that Bears game at US 398 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium, all right, with your guy Devin Duvernet, all right, 399 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: getting that kick all the way on the other side 400 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: of the fifty then Cairo Santos walks off, So I 401 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: think the return was fifty three fifty six yards if 402 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: you handle that kick the right way. From a coverage standpoint, 403 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: they didn't. The Minnesota Vikings didn't. If you handle that 404 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: coverage the right way, you're ninety five percent you're a 405 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna sweep the Bears, all right, that team everybody's talking about, Yeah, 406 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: we swept them, and who knows. From a locker room 407 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: positivity standpoint, it goes from yeah, but it really was. 408 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Come on, man, how about and you know what I'm saying, 409 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: it's just so deflating or the exultation. The exultation can 410 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: send a team straight to the Super Bowl. The deflated 411 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: nature can send a team to being winless the rest 412 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: of the year. But Conna did a really good job 413 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Flores too with this team after that game for the 414 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: most part, to keep things, you know, so that they 415 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: were ascending and they won five and row at the 416 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: end of the year. But that's the game of inches. 417 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: That's the razor thin margin they're talking about. You you 418 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: cover I think Blackwell, Josh Blackwell might have been the 419 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: guy in front of him, and Duvernet is really really good, 420 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: so he gets to make plays too, but you cover 421 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: it the right way might be a different story in 422 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: the game of inches. Yeah, absolutely. 423 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: I think that's where, you know, the team aspect of 424 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: the game really comes into play. You know, you know, 425 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: you talk about the momentum and adrenaline and emotions in 426 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: the high and lows, but that's where you know, you 427 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: have guys on special teams who who make plays. I 428 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: remember when I was playing, we would talk about, you know, 429 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: pinning the team inside the twenty and so for kickoff, 430 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: that was major to be able to you know, kick it, 431 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: keep the ball in play, keep them inside the twenty. 432 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: We felt like that set up our defense mentally for 433 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: them to go out there and understand, hey, we can 434 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: keep them backed up if play calling may be conservative. 435 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: And also in the field position game, when they go 436 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: to punt, it sets up our offense to have a 437 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: shorter field. And then afterwards we're thinking about can we 438 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: hold up the guys on the outside and give Marcus 439 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: Cheryls an opportunity to get a big play in terms 440 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: of the return game, whether it's fifteen twenty yards on 441 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: return or potentially something even more. And I think that 442 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: right there just kind of snowballs you into the positive 443 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: direction that you'd like to go. 444 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: You Anthony Harris, former Viking safety Elaite football mind in 445 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: Studio nine to them, definitely want to do this more frequently, 446 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: loving it. But you might have been in the game. 447 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: You were at the game, and I think in the game, well, 448 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: well let me just rephrase it. Did you play in 449 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen on special teams? Were you on punt return? Oh? Yeah, okay, 450 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: well you were in the game the last time the 451 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings had a punt return touchdown. It was October 452 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Marcus Cheryl's against the Texans. I mean, and 453 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: you were in the game, and you've been retired for 454 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's about time for us to get 455 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: a punt return touchdown. 456 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I think that was having some 457 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: of those years and even talking about you know, big 458 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: returns and Corda Patterson was very dangerous on a kick return. 459 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: The power in having a guy. 460 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: That's explosive, who can make plays if you give him 461 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: a chance to catch the ball clean and give him 462 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: a few spaces to make a move. It was just 463 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: so dynamic, you know, it was so dynamic. I think 464 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: it added, you know, juice even for the offense of 465 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: just understanding, hey, we're going to get a great return 466 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: right here, and it's going to set us up. We 467 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: may come out with an explosive play, we hit one 468 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: supposed to play and we're in field goal range and 469 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: we have points. So how the game is just played 470 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: at that level, not only physically but mentally and understanding 471 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: you know what could come next if you just do 472 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: your job and how each person role is extremely important. 473 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: You really can't explain it until you see it and 474 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: you go through the film and you just show how 475 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: things were able to build up right in certain moments 476 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: of the game. 477 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: Well, lastly, Marcus sheryls, all right, this has kind of 478 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: turned into Rochester go crazy. Fan line. At that size, 479 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: Marcus was fast, but he wasn't Dan Chisena Burner fast, 480 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, how did he do it? 481 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: As a gunner? He's one of the greatest gunners in 482 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: the history of this team. He was slithery and he 483 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: was quick. Don't get me wrong, little Marcus. I mean seriously, 484 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: I love that guy. And you talk about squeezing every 485 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: single bit of the gifts and the talent guy gave him. 486 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he got he got all of it, 487 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 488 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 489 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: I remember sitting in the locker room and my first 490 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: year in the league, and he was basically a locker mate, 491 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: and I was looking at him like, this isn't a 492 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: big guy, you know, but I'm watching I'm watching him. 493 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: He's demanding double teams as a as a gunner, and 494 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: he's making plays, he's forcing fair catches, and then in 495 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: a return game he's making guys miss and he's making 496 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: big plays. And I just asked him one day him 497 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: like what year is it for you? He was like, oh, 498 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: it's like year seven. And I just remember thinking, man, 499 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: it's a blessing. You know, a guy at that stature 500 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: you wouldn't imagine had that type of ability, and he's 501 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: out there, he's making an impact in the game, he's contributing, 502 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: and he's seven years in and so for me, that 503 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: was kind of a little motivation of like, you know, 504 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: if you do what you're supposed to do, you know, 505 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 2: you work extremely hard making the plays when they come 506 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: to you, and continue to learn and evolve in the game, 507 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, you can carve out a long career for yourself. 508 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: And last guy, and I like the entertainment of the game. 509 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: I like the show of the game. People got dances, 510 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I don't mind that. However, Like Marcus 511 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: was the last one who would be like, look at 512 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: me now, but you know they doubted me. Look at 513 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: me now absolutely. I mean he wouldn't say anything before 514 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: he say that. Yeah, no, humble. 515 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: I think I'd rarely even see a fist pump out 516 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: of him. You know, he's screenly acquiet guy. I joke 517 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: with him a lot of the times. You know, I'm like, 518 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: that's great a lot of the times. Most of the 519 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: time I seen you smile. It's like if we talk about, hey, 520 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: we're going to play basketball, you know, he might crack 521 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: a smile, you know, but. 522 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: Don't tell me he can dunk. 523 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: No, he's not a dunker, but he's he can pass, 524 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: he can shoot. Yeah, he was a cool guy. But yeah, 525 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean there are times where he did. He would 526 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: crack a smile. That was about it, and maybe tap 527 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: you on your head if he made a big play. 528 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: But that was about it. In terms of celebrating, good man, 529 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: stop by any time. That was fantastic. Let's do it 530 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: more frequently. Tom West, thank you very much. That was 531 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: very enjoyable. God bless you and your family. And I'll 532 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: see you soon. Okay, I appreciate the same to you. 533 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: See you. But Anthony Harris, former safety for the Minnesota Vikings, 534 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: offering a helping hand of this Tuesday that was our 535 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: Steve's Appliance's Marathon segment Steve's Appliances dot Com for Appliances. 536 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: Here comes order with the cash thing. 537 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: The Fan wants to give you a chance to win 538 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 4: some bonus bucks with the National Cash Contest. You can 539 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: enter the keyword pay pay, simple word. 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I don't know 549 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: if you were tending to children, if you were running 550 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: errands or whatever you were doing, did you happen to 551 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: hear that highlight? And like when you hear Doc Emrick, 552 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: it's just great, It's just right, you know what I mean? 553 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: It is. Doc was the best. We were lucky to 554 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: have him in as a home announcer when I played 555 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: for the Devils, and so was our every day play 556 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: by play guy, and he used the best. He's the 557 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: best in the business, so we were lucky to have him. 558 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: And I mean cool just here. I mean, I haven't 559 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: heard that in a long time. That that's play by 560 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: play call right there from the Olympics. So that was 561 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: that was neat to hear, all right. 562 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Zach played one three and seventy six NHL games in 563 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: his career. How's the body at the ripe old age 564 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: of forty one? You're forty one? Right forty one. 565 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, body feels great. Body feel her body feels good. 566 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: I try to stay active and keep doing stuff. But 567 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: there's still you know, of course, there's still things that 568 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: are that are sore, and I'm not sure if they're 569 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: ever going to loosen up. But I think I got 570 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: out of the game actually not not feeling too terrible. 571 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: Well that's good when you can walk away from it 572 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: that way, a b actually walk away from it. See 573 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: do it on your own terms. But it does beg 574 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: this question. With a career, very successful career that's come 575 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: to a conclusion at the end of your career, did 576 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: you happen to settle on a curve with your stick 577 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: that you actually liked? 578 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: Believe it or not. My last year I came back 579 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: and used a different one that I had never used 580 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: my whole career. So it was I'm guessing stay Lock 581 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: gave you that information. Oh wow, that's my guess. But 582 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure I drove the Bower guys and 583 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: the Eastern Stick guys, and that say probably went through 584 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: about thirty thirty five different patterns. It was I was 585 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: really finicky with my sticks. 586 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you nailed it with the assistance on the question, 587 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: so I might as well get Alex Staylock's second question 588 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: out of the way. His second sneaky question you weren't 589 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: supposed to know about when it comes to the Olympics 590 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: with the Olympic village. You know, like when you were 591 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: hanging out with people in stuff twenty ten, you're an 592 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: alternate captain. That was the era of pukashell puka shell necklaces. 593 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: Did you have a lot of pukashell necklaces back in 594 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: twenty ten? 595 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: No, No, that was in two thousand and three. That 596 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 3: was more of the high school frosted tips puckashell necklace. 597 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: That was more of that era twenty ten. I'd grown 598 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: out of that luckily. 599 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I understand man, Because where were the twenty ten Olympics? Vancouver? 600 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Those were Vancouver. 601 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 602 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you could have a little like stand 603 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: on the side. Here's what it looked like in two 604 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: thousand and three. We're gonna bring pukashell necklaces back, and 605 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to sell them to you right now. That 606 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Alex thank you very much for the help. When he 607 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: heard you were on, He's like, I got to send 608 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: you a couple of questions I said, amen. Now, Zach 609 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: played for Team USA twice and wore the C in 610 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. In twenty ten alternate captain, silver medal winning 611 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: USA squad. So what, just from what you remember something 612 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: you'll probably never forget. What is it like representing your 613 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: country in the Olympics. 614 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: It is, It's honestly the greatest thing, really, I mean, 615 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: from an individual standpoint, I think, I mean, you're one 616 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: of you're one of twelve of the best players you 617 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: know in your country, and then on a bigger scale, 618 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: you're one of the you know, you're one of the 619 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: lucky enough to play for the Olympics, and I just 620 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: when you get the chance to do that, whether it 621 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: is Olympics, World Championships, anything, I mean, it's just really 622 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: as incredible to be able to represent the US, this 623 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: great country and be a part of it. And I 624 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: mean it's hard to put into words really when you're there, yeah, 625 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: and you're competing, it's hard to put into words like 626 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: what what it means. It's just it's just a really 627 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 3: really cool, cool experience. 628 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: But one thing for sure, I mean, you had so 629 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: many wonderful moments with your career and you walked away 630 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: from it on your terms. But nevertheless, you don't, you know, 631 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: at forty one now, I mean, is there any part 632 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: of you that looks back at twenty fourteen and twenty 633 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: ten and you're like, wow, I wish I had a 634 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: appreciated it more than than recognizing it now, because that 635 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: can't happen one hundred percent. 636 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: I mean, actually, my wife and I were talking about 637 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: that last night. We were watching some of the Olympic 638 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: Games that we're on, and we're just talking about the 639 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: different you know, a couple of different events that we 640 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: went to and watched. But even I mean, you're you're 641 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: exactly right when you're there. You know, you're just so 642 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: consumed by playing the games and you really don't take 643 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: a step back and then just think about like, wow, 644 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: like I'm actually playing in the Olympic Games right now, 645 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: and if for whatever reason, as an athlete just or 646 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: hockey player, we just don't think about that or did 647 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: you think about it at the time? And unfortunately, yeah, 648 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: like you know, almost twenty five years later or whatever 649 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: it is, or fifteen years later, you're like, wow, that's 650 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: what a special time that was. I wish I would 651 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: have taken it a couple of minutes there to be 652 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: like just to really appreciate it. 653 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: What, Zach, what do you think of this year's squad 654 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: just from what you know about it? I mean, shoot, 655 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: you played with her again. Some of the players. What 656 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: do you think of the squad? 657 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean they look great, they do, and you get 658 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: a little you got a little sample of it during 659 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: the Four Nations of how good these players are and 660 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: this team is. I mean you can't overlook anyone, of course, 661 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: but I mean they're just they've got just as good 662 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 3: a chance to win as anybody. So I think it's 663 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: it's going to be really exciting, and uh, hockey fans 664 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: are really really looking forward. I know. I mean a 665 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: lot of people that I've been around are talking about 666 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: really looking forward to the hockey part of this, the 667 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: Olympics starting. I just think that there's a lot of buzz, 668 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: a lot of excitement, and rightfully so with this roster, 669 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna. 670 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: Be a great team, big time. And I think Four 671 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: Nations kind of got people a little more reved up too. 672 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean that that was fantastic, but uh, with USA 673 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: and Canada. Zach Zach Breezy is our guest couple of 674 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: quick us to close here. How how truly heated is 675 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: USA Canada when they meet. 676 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: Really heated? I mean there's, of course, there's there's a 677 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: respect because a lot of the players play together, you 678 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: know what I mean, you got guys their teammates during 679 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: the season. But there it's heated, and there's there is 680 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 3: I don't know if hatred is the word, but there 681 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: really is. I mean, with with what you're competing for. 682 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: You've almost felt like for a long time, like the 683 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: US has been a little brother to Canada in the 684 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: hockey stage. And so I think right now, I mean 685 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: we've lost to them. We lost them in twenty four 686 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: and twenty ten in a gold medal game. We lost 687 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 3: him in twenty fourteen in the in the semi final game, 688 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: lost to them in the in the World Cup, lost 689 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: him in four Nations. So it's just, you know, just 690 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: really want this group to get over the hump. But 691 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: it's it's it's a really there's a there's an intense dislike, 692 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: which I'm pretty sure is mutual. 693 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, and what's strange about it, and it's age old here, 694 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: but like John Hines, you know, wild coach, he's on 695 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: the bench with a with Sully in the USA, So 696 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: say the Swedes and USA mate, I mean, how about 697 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: Faber and Eric Sinec pounding away at each other in 698 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: front of a goalie. I mean, that's going to be 699 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: a sight to see. It's fantastic, but you know, it 700 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: just it typifies what you're saying about the desire to win. 701 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: But it's kind of a civil war in that they 702 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: both were the wild Colors, you know, it really is. 703 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: And then we I mean I remember that from from 704 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: twenty ten. I mean we were there was three of 705 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: us from the Devils, myself, Langan Brenner, and Rafalski on 706 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: the US team, and that we're playing against Marty Broder, 707 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you're playing in your 708 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: own goalie in the Olympics, and I mean, yeah, of 709 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: course you respect him as a teammate, but at that time, 710 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: like you'll do anything to win the game, and you 711 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: tried to expose what you think or what you know 712 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: as weaknesses of your own teammates, which is a weird thing, 713 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: but that's what that's what it comes down to. 714 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, last one. This is awesome. Thank you very much 715 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: for the Covenant catch up. Got to ask you this 716 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: question because you know a thousand times more about it 717 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: than me. And when he played for Vancouver, I ain't 718 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: trying to pretend like I was up at eleven thirty 719 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: at night watching the center rise package in Vancouver Canucks. 720 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: So have you played against Gwyn Hughes a bunch? What 721 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: makes that guy so good? Holy cow? Is he twitchy? Yeah? 722 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: It's I mean, there's a lot that makes him a 723 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: good player. I mean, his his skating ability. He's just that, 724 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 3: you know him, Him and a few other guys, they 725 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: really i think transformed the defensive position. You know him 726 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: and and and guys like macar They really transformed the 727 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: way people play defense and the way you know de 728 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: skate forward all the time now and just their agility, 729 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: their edgework, their puck possession, They just they evolved the position. 730 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: And again his his just poised with the puck, his 731 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 3: skating ability. But it's just he's one of those guys. 732 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 3: Also that it is contagious. It's contagious throughout the lineup. 733 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: Once you start you got a couple of guys that 734 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: can play like that. It's amazing how all of a 735 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: sudden the rest of the team starts to play like that. Also, 736 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: it's just it's like a go down effect throughout the lineup, 737 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 3: and so it's he's a he's a special player. 738 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: You're awesome, my man, and you are a special player too. 739 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. 740 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: Let's stay in touch, all right, all right, thank you 741 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: very much for having me. 742 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, see you by Zach Parizi. Nine to Noon, 743 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: Down memory Lane, we go back in cutit wait until 744 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: the morrow, all right, Nordo, thanks for making it fun today. 745 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: It's always fun, man, No, this was awesome today. How 746 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: about Parizi? We got aunt Harrison Studio. Yeah, good times. 747 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: Man. 748 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: Can't wait to be back tomorrow when we rise and 749 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: shine at nine For Eric Nordquist, I'm Paul Allen. Thank 750 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: you very much for listening to Nine to Noon. God 751 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: bless you and all of your families, and have good 752 00:35:41,560 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: times today. Have a wonderful day. Hi to noon, re 753 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: creative time for two more sc The game is over. 754 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: Just listen, just listen. There are many many positives I 755 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: can get out of this game. This is an old 756 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: fashioned ass kid and. 757 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: I and that's a fun It's good news of money. 758 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: Leave a podcast Today's Paul Allen Show, or listen back 759 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: to previous show and interviews like going to the 760 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or g f a n dot com