1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: All right, well, we're waiting for our guests to call back. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: This actually provides an interesting opportunity Twin Cities News Talk 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Hour three on a Freedom Friday. I'm so happy to 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: have the guests in studio from the American Experiment podcast. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: As we go around the room, we have Grace Keating, 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Catherine Johnson, we have businessmen and RNC Committeeman Ak Kamara. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more about the filibuster. I have some 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: other off the beaten path stories relating to this that 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: we will get into. And of course, on a Freedom Friday, 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: we do take your on and off topic comments all 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: morning long from the iHeartRadio app brought to you by 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Lyndahl Realties. Let's go to the talkbacks. What do you say, guys, Yeah. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: Good morning, this is the show from Dean Prarie. First 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: of all, one of these two broods add to your show, 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: add nothing. They should be home baking cooties. And again, 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: I thought you said a few weeks ago they did. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Democrats that all the power, all the time. The Republicans 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: can just fill a bus to bust it up in it. 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Just remember you guys won't be in powerful long that sure, 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: it's time you guys will be out of power, have 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 2: a good weekend. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So, because what we're gonna do, and this is 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: really unfair, I'm gona let you guys do for a moment. 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: Cookies. 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't you guys head to the breaker and 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: make some cookies. Well, we talked to our guests this morning. Listen. 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: He did that intentionally to try to go and get 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: a rise out of you guys. 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 5: I just I'm not risen. I will say I'm honored. 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 5: Bacon cookies. 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 4: I've never been called a broad before. 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: This is a big day for you. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Maybe should add it to the podcast title next week 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: just to make Phil happy. You can do that, all right, 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: So we'll get back to this coming up. I'm sure 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: we'll get plenty of comments that are rolling in regarding 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: that here on the iHeart Radio app. So while those 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: come in, I'm very pleased to go and welcome to 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: the show. Gold Star Dad of Darren Taylor Hoover. It 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: was one of the thirteen heroes killed at Abby Gate. 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: We are joined by gold Star Father Darren Hoover. 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: Good morn d. 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining the show this morning. 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: It really is an honor to to speak with you. 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 6: Good morning, sir, and I definitely appreciate the opportunity. I'll 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 6: talk about my son and what happened any day of 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 6: the week. 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: So first off, I know you're gonna you're here in 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: uh Minnesota for the weekend. 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: What brings you here to the state? 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 6: Well, a friend of mine by the name of Lewis 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 6: Uh he's uh, he's the one with that tribute jeep 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 6: on Facebook, beautiful jeep with all the names of the 54 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 6: fallen from Iraq and Afghanistan, and and that brought me 55 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 6: up here uh for the VFW Marine Corps bal Uh 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 6: here in Prior Lake and uh yeah, So it's it's 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: gonna be a good time tonight. 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your son, when that when that happened, 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: When that event happened, I remember, I think like many 60 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: of us did, uh you know here on the air 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: when that entire tragedy unfolded. You know, it hit a 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: lot of us, hit a lot of his hard continues 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: to do. So I can only imagine what it must 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: have been like for you and your and your wife. 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: I know there's a foundation in your son's name. We 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: can certainly talk about that as well. But let's just 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: start off talk a little bit about your son, if if, 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: if my information is correct, your son Taylor had wanted 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: to join the Marine Corps at a very early. 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 6: Age, right correct, you know, growing up, his mom relates 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 6: the story better than I do. Of course she remember 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 6: better than than I do. But you know, growing up 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: he those little green plastic Uh, he didn't call him 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 6: army man. 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: He called the. 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: Marines and was always playing with those, you know, grew 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 6: up he was always a little bit bigger, taller, you know, 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 6: whiter than than a lot of his friends. And uh 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 6: played football from the age of eight and again was 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 6: still one of the bigger ones, you know, so we 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 6: had to play the line. But just a just an 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 6: awesome kid. I mean, you know, if you needed a 83 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 6: hand up, he was there if you if you needed anything, 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: he was there. You know, we'd be at for instance, 85 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 6: at the store and he'd struck up a conversation with anybody. 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 6: He didn't care. That's just the type of kid that 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 6: he was, you know. And family came first. His his 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 6: mama and his sisters were were his whole wife and 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: he lived his life that way. You know. We we're religious, 90 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 6: and he was. He was a part of that as well, 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 6: just an honorable, good, good young man. 92 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: I know that he was ultimately promoted to staff sergeant 93 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: E six by the Marine Corps. Was stationed on board 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: a vessel in the Strait of Ormuz in twenty twenty 95 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: one prior to being called up to deploy to Afghanistan. 96 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: Did you have when did you find out that he 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: would be going to toa cobble And I'm curious, and 98 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious again talking with gold Star father Darren Hoover, 99 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: whose son Taylor was killed at Abbey Gate along with 100 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: those those twelve others. Were you aware that he was 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: being positioned over in Afghanistan? Do you do you recall 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: when you when you found out and what were your 103 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: what were your thoughts? 104 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was actually on the chesty poller out in 105 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 6: the straight gathering intel with his with his guys, and 106 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 6: you know, we okay, he's there. You know, the the 107 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 6: the stuff in cobble started going off and I get 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 6: a sorry, a cryptic text from him saying, Dad, I 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 6: can't tell you where I'm going. Just watch the news 110 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 6: and you'll figure it out. Yeah, but just understand that 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 6: I'm with a bunch of kick ass guys and I'll 112 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 6: be okay, And a couple of days later, he was 113 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 6: he was. 114 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: In cabble, I was reviewing a bit of what it 115 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: had transpired leading up to that date on August twenty sixth. 116 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Was there any way that you know, you and your 117 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: and your wife could could possibly be prepared for what 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: transpired after? 119 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: You know, afterwards? 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, your son serving in the military, there's 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: always a risk involved. But you know, is there any 122 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: way that you could be prepared for for what ended 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: up ultimately taking place on that horrific and tragic day. 124 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 6: No, there's no way obviously, you know, like you said, 125 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 6: he's in the military, so that that's always in the 126 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 6: back of your mind. You know that the kay, something 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 6: could happen, and that's always stuck in the back of 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 6: your mind. But you know, Taylor, Taylor had his head 129 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 6: on his shoulders. I mean, good gosh, ka'd He'd been 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 6: in the Marine Corps eleven years. This was his third 131 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 6: trip to Afghanistan, you know, and and we thought, nah, 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 6: it can't happen. You know, he'd call his mom every 133 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 6: day and tell her how messed up things were over there, 134 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 6: that he'd never seen anything worse than what he was 135 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 6: dealing with but that he was okay, he was okay, 136 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 6: everything was going good. He was trying to keep his guys, 137 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: you know, on top of things and morale up and 138 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 6: and you know, everything else. And it just that day hit. 139 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 6: And of course we're I'm getting I'm heading to work 140 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 6: two hours out of town, two and a half hours 141 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: out of town, and you know, his mom lives in 142 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 6: Missouri now, and we're talking back and forth. We're I'm 143 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 6: listening to the news, I'm as i'm driving up. I've 144 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 6: been watching a little bit of it before I left, 145 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: And you know, we're talking back and forth. And the 146 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 6: first time, the first time that we talked, she was 147 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 6: she knew something was going on. She knew she'd been crying. 148 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 6: She was trying on the phone with me, you know, 149 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 6: and I'm trying to console her, being you know, being 150 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 6: a She's trying to console her, and she's talking and crying. 151 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 6: We said a couple of prayers together, and we hung up. 152 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 6: About thirty forty five minutes later, she called back, trying again, 153 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 6: and I don't feel good about this. There, I don't 154 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 6: feel good about this. Something's happened. He's not answering his phone, 155 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 6: He's not answering his texts. Nothing. You know, in the 156 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 6: back of my mind, I'm still trying to say, no, no, 157 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 6: it's not him, it can't be him. Sure, he's too 158 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 6: he's too quick of a kid, he's too smart, he's 159 00:09:54,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 6: been here before. And we proceeded to cry together, prayed 160 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 6: a couple more prayers, and then hung up. And it 161 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 6: wasn't a couple hours later that my dad called me. 162 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 6: And i'd been I was staying with them and then 163 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 6: working during the week and going back home on the weekends. 164 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 6: And you've got to understand something. My dad never cries. 165 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 6: I've seen the man cry maybe twice in my entire life. 166 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 6: And I get a phone call from him and he's crying, 167 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 6: and he said, there's two Marines standing at her door. 168 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 6: Right then and there, I knew exactly what it was. 169 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 6: My numbers had continued to tick up, and yeah, it 170 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 6: wound up being he was one of them. 171 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: We're speaking with a gold star father, Darren Hoover Son Taylor, 172 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: one of the thirteen Euros killed, a heroes killed at 173 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Abby Gate. 174 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 4: Do you. 175 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Know it's been three years, which really isn't isn't isn't 176 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: that long? And you know I you know, I think 177 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: I speak for for most everybody listening that you know, 178 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: we can't forget what transpired in this in this event 179 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: and the heroes like your son that gave the ultimate sacrifice? 180 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: Do you show up the politics. 181 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: Aside on all of this in the in the wake 182 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: of of what had of what had transpired, you know, obviously, 183 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: you know a lot has been said about why we 184 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: were there and what took place that led to the 185 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: events on on August twenty six. 186 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm. 187 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: Curious from your from your perspective now, with the focus 188 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: obviously on his memorial and the scholarships, and we'll talk 189 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: about that in just a moment, do you push the 190 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: politics aside or is that still combined with the grief 191 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: that that you and your family indoor. 192 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 6: No, it's it's very much at the forefront. There's a 193 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: there's a lot of anger and angst coming from me. 194 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 6: There are we've got what's called the Abby Gate Coalition, 195 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 6: and we're seven of the thirteen families that are together. 196 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 6: We've been to Washington, d c. U testified before Congress 197 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: the houseboldn Affairs Committee. We went to California with Congressman 198 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 6: Isa uh testified there at the roundtable. You know, we've 199 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 6: been with the President, the vice president of the current administration, 200 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 6: not the last one. We actually sat down with General 201 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 6: Millie too at one point during all this when when 202 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 6: we were back in d C. For the kids, they 203 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 6: the Congressional Gold Medal in their honor. But no politics 204 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 6: is We've been petitioning Congress. There's a few things that 205 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: we would like to see changed, and you know, there's, 206 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 6: like I said, there's still a lot of anger and 207 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 6: bitterness towards the last administration, towards the DoD, towards the 208 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 6: State Department, because things didn't need to happen the way 209 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 6: that they did, and it was because of those decisions 210 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 6: made or not made, that we know more and more 211 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 6: and more about as we as we go along, that 212 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: those decisions led to exactly what happened, the chaos and 213 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: the crap that happened there for those two weeks leading 214 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 6: up to that faithful day. 215 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: Let's wrap on this and again talking with gold Star 216 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: Father Darren Hoover, thank you so much for spending time 217 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: with us this morning, and the staff Sergeant Darren Taylor 218 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Hoover Memorial. I want to talk a bit about what 219 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: is is done through this memorial to your son, Darren. 220 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely. Shortly after Taylor was killed, his mom started 221 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: the foundation and it is the Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover Memorial, 222 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 6: And through that we receive you know, uh, donations, and 223 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 6: those donations go to scholarships for kids just getting out 224 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: of high school, maybe been out a here trying to 225 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 6: figure out, you know, what's going on. 226 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: But those that. 227 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 6: Contribute to society, you know, through honor, courage, commitment, the 228 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 6: tenants of the Marine Corps, and they can be awarded 229 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: a scholarship to a you know, uh, normal college or 230 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 6: to a trade school. And those have been those have 231 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 6: been awesome to watch. And then my my daughter and 232 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 6: son in law started up another branch from the from 233 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: the foundation still a part of it. Donations go to 234 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 6: both the scholarships, and we have now started doing uh 235 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 6: service dogs for worthy veterans, and so far we've given 236 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 6: away I believe we just gave away number six or 237 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 6: number seven. So the dogs get trained there, they're paid 238 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 6: for and trained in Missouri and then send out or 239 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 6: driven out to the very is military members throughout the country. Uh. 240 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 6: The latest one being we went to Boise, Idaho, and 241 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 6: there was a veteran that had that had come in 242 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 6: from I believe Washington or Oregon had met us there 243 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 6: and so that just to see the transformation, you know, 244 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 6: not only with the dog, but to see that initial 245 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 6: meet up with the veteran and the dog and see 246 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 6: that shee that come to a fruition and it's just 247 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: it's an awesome thing to behold. You know, I was 248 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 6: a I was a canine handler in my before I 249 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 6: retired as a as a police officer. So my daughters 250 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: and my son and obviously their mama grew up during 251 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 6: that time when I had, you know, a couple of canines, 252 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 6: and so that was near and dear to my daughter's heart, 253 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 6: and that's why that part of it was was also started. 254 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 6: So well. 255 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: Darren Hoover again gold Star dad of Darren Taylor Hoover, 256 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: one of the thirteen heroes killed at Abbygate. 257 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: Thank you. 258 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: We thank your son for the service as well giving 259 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice. Thank you for the time this morning 260 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: we actually heard via email from the owner of the 261 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: tribute to Jeep and I know that you will be 262 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: enjoying your time here in Minnesota, and thank you so 263 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: much for spending time with us this morning and talking 264 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: about your son. We greatly appreciate it. I know the 265 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: listeners do as well. And again, I hope you enjoy 266 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: your time here in the state with what you're involved 267 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: in this weekend. And thank you for joining us on 268 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: the show this morning. 269 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 6: I appreciate it very much, sir, Thank you. 270 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: Good morning. 271 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: This is so from Dean Prairie. 272 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: First of all, one of these two brids add to 273 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: your show to add nothing they should be on bacon cookies. 274 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: Just wanted to get everybody back up to speed. Foe 275 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: of the show, Phil left that talk back prior to 276 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: the conversation that we had, and it was such an 277 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: honor to talk with a gold star father, Darren Hoover. 278 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: If you missed that, you shouldn't check out. The podcast 279 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: be available on the iHeartRadio app once the show is finished. 280 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: This morning in studio Ak Kamara, RNC Committeemen and business owner. 281 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 7: Good morning, and the at least one thing that these 282 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 7: two ladies add is a very wonderful aroma. 283 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: In this studio. 284 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 7: Women smell good, and I, as a headosexual male, like 285 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 7: the smell of women. 286 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out to good smelling women. 287 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: I don't even need to I don't. 288 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: It's true, and I'm glad you you know, I wasn't 289 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: gonna say it, but such what happened. 290 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: Ak left. He comes back, He's like, Wow, that studio 291 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: smells great. 292 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: Smells great. 293 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: First I thought it was me because I put some 294 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 4: product in, and then he that was wrong, I assume, 295 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: and then he. 296 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Goes it smells like women like, you're right. I don't 297 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: even need to argue what you two bring to the show. Okay, 298 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: that being said, there are many listeners who wanted to 299 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: come to your defense. Did you guys, By the way, 300 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: do you guys have any comments for film wow response? 301 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: If he wants a real response as. 302 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 8: To why we do the podcast, we do things like this, 303 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 8: which is that women, especially in the gen Z demographic 304 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 8: and millennials to some degree, are not on our side. 305 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 8: They're in huge numbers voting for people like Zo ran Mom, Donnie. 306 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 8: I ran into it all the time in college. To 307 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 8: these people who are completely misled by things like feminism 308 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 8: and these really toxic ideologies that exist on the left, 309 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 8: and there's a place where they need to hear from 310 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 8: people that are in their own demographic. 311 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 5: Preaching conservative views. 312 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 8: I think that's extremely important and crucial to saving our 313 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 8: country and saving these women from those toxic ideologies like feminism. 314 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: That only hurt them. 315 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 8: So hopefully we can provide a voice that is going 316 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 8: to help guide them to a better light, to the 317 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 8: promised Land. 318 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: The Promised Land. 319 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 6: Aamen. 320 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 8: My less eloquent response would be I've also never had 321 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 8: the get back in the kitchen line used on me. 322 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: So it's a big day rocking up. 323 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: A lot of points, especially from the left. 324 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 5: I know always because they larp. 325 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 7: They don't actually care about these things that they pretend 326 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 7: to care about. They only do it for power. At 327 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 7: the end of the day, I think that the things 328 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 7: that you two ladies add to the show is just 329 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 7: a different perspective, Like isn't that something that we actually 330 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 7: want to strive for. Is different people bring different perspectives, 331 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 7: like in actual diversity of the way that life happens 332 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 7: to you, But we have the same general organizing principle. 333 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, Phil Man, you need to do better. 334 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 7: Brother, You're going to be excized from everything that is 335 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 7: left of center. 336 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 4: Well and aunt just posted on X and they smell great. 337 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: So yes, and I mean that's kind of the most important. 338 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going for truth be told. The only 339 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: reason why I invitement on today and the cookies we 340 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: bring it on I'm not allowed. 341 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the cookies too, but I'm not allowed to 342 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: burn any candles in studios. 343 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, I just. 344 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: Invite, invite, invite the gracer Catherine in and you know, 345 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: if I can get them both in the same morning, 346 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: double bonus, studios bonus even better. 347 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 8: And ever since Ak quit smoking, I will say the 348 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 8: aroma on his end is improving as well. 349 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: Smelling goodness. 350 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: I'm just feeling like I'm over here on an island. 351 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 9: Right us Phil from Florida visiting up in Minnesota this week. 352 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 4: I just heard Phil's. 353 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 9: Comment a few few minutes ago. I will have to say, Phil, 354 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 9: you are one of the most disgusting people I've ever heard. Yeah, 355 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 9: there's no way that you have any right and you're 356 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 9: just a typical Democrat. 357 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: All you can. 358 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 9: Do is attack people personally. You have nothing else than that. 359 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 9: I think you should be ashamed of yourself shape. 360 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: It's so indicative. 361 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: Listen, Phil left that talkback because he wanted me to 362 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: play it right. 363 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: Of course he knew what he was doing. 364 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't really believe that he believes what he's what 365 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: he's saying. He doesn't ever have an original thought. He 366 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: has MSNBC on he grabs a couple of talking points. 367 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if he jots it down on a 368 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: pad and then regurgitates it on a talkback or not, 369 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: but he knows what value you guys both bring to 370 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: the show. It's not even a point that needs to 371 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: be to be argued. But I like to take those 372 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: moments because it is very indicative of the left right now. 373 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: This Oh, I'm going to trigger those individuals, but it 374 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: provides really good opportunities to, you know, have for their 375 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: discussions and have a discussion that we wouldn't have ended 376 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: up having if it hadn't been for his inane comments. Also, 377 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: it gives us the opportunity to award the talkback of 378 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, it's brought to you by Mini Leaf 379 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: and minileaf dot com. I encourage everybody to head on 380 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: over m I N N E L e a f 381 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: dot com. This is your talk back of the day, 382 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: brought to you by Minni Leaf. 383 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 9: John Gang, Phil leaves to stick to his task to 384 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 9: making bathroom brown. 385 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: He's in this early in the morning. 386 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: I mana sure talk back of the Day brought to 387 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: you by Minni Leaf and minileaf dot com. 388 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: Please don't start talking about it again. 389 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 10: Good morning, Happy Freedom Friday, John, Catherine Grace, and Ak. 390 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 4: I think you should invite Phil In to be an 391 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: in studio guest. 392 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: I think that would be great. 393 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 11: I'm sure everybody in there would love to see a 394 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 11: hi to him right about now. 395 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 10: Maybe you can just change Phil's last name to a Buster, 396 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 10: so you can be Phil a Buster or Guy's a Buster. 397 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 4: Have a great Friday. Wow, people are on fire today. 398 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: I was a little too quick to award the talkback 399 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: of the Day. I think that was a little bit 400 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: more apropos. No, I would not invite Phil into the 401 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: studio because it would be awful. 402 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: It would It would be horrible. He would have he would. 403 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Have no I mean you want to talk about not 404 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: bringing into the table, would be Phil in studio live, 405 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: not having a legacy media television in front of him 406 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: to give him all of his lines. 407 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 12: Yeah. 408 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 7: What's really funny is like you find this all over 409 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 7: the place if you go on any YouTube shows. Most 410 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 7: of the time when you have like a typical left 411 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 7: leaning individual when they're live, they are awful because they 412 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 7: don't actually pay attention. They just read talking points and 413 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: they actually can't flesh out their own arguments. They'll say 414 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 7: one thing here and then you say, okay, well what 415 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 7: do you what does this mean over here? And they're like, Oh, 416 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 7: I don't really know too much about that story, so 417 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 7: I don't want to speak on it. 418 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: And plus it would smell really bad in here. Phil 419 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: came in here, so. 420 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 10: We Oh my god, Phil, I knew you left these 421 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 10: hated women, you know, on account that you want guys 422 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 10: to beat them up in any sport. 423 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: We'll just stop it there, because true, true, that is true. 424 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: This is what this is what Phil would sound like 425 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: if he went and hosted his own show. 426 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: Okay, ye, what. 427 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 11: Number do people call to get on the air, and 428 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 11: do we have that number? That's interesting. You might not 429 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 11: feel it. You might not feel the energy right now, 430 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 11: the swell of what's happening here. I'm Alec Baldwin and 431 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 11: this is my brief but spectacular take on why I 432 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 11: was born. 433 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: To host a public radio talk show. 434 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 11: If you don't call, we're going to keep reading from 435 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 11: the Scientology Manual. 436 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 4: That is a essentially, it would sound like oh Man Studio. 437 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Okay, So We're all way way off on time, so 438 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: we got to take a break. We'll be back with 439 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: the final segment here on Twin City's News Talk on 440 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: a Freedom Friday. So happy to have our guests in 441 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: studio and all of the valuable commentary that they give 442 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: us every single Friday morning, along with making the studio 443 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: smell great. We'll get back to more of that coming 444 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: up here on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty 445 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: and one oh three five FM. 446 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: I is a heterosexual male like the smell of women. 447 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 12: How dare kill assume they are women? Yes, they have 448 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 12: feminine names, but we have no idea if they actually 449 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 12: identify as women. How dare Phil assume it? What is he? 450 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: A bit? 451 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain that Grace and Catherine's husbands would have 452 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: something to say about all of that, although. 453 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: You know, you never know who am I to judge? 454 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 5: I have one of those x's on my license getting 455 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 5: read up on a huge conundrum. 456 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: Twin City's News Song final segment for a Freedom Friday. 457 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: Grace Catherine from American Experiment, ak Kamara and MC master Control. 458 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: Sam is in the booth next door. 459 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks John, Actually, so I need your guys to 460 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 10: help with something just really quick. I usually don't. I 461 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 10: usually don't do podcast titles on the air, but I'm 462 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 10: gonna throw this out. Do we do phil a Buster 463 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 10: or do we do AK likes the smell of women? 464 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 10: What do we think is for the AK likes the 465 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 10: smell of women? 466 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: Catherine, Yeah, yeah, I like that one. O Grace, I 467 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 4: like Pilobuster. 468 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: But are both winners, So it's okay. 469 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 7: I A is a heaterosexual male like the smell of women. 470 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 7: It's true. And my wife shout out to Smoopy smells 471 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 7: amazing all the time. Even she's like, oh, I need 472 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 7: to take a shower. Yet I'm like, you smell amazing. 473 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 7: So I'm a guy you always smell. 474 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 8: Guess someone needs to do the Joe Biden sniff. 475 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: But AK, Yeah, I. 476 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: Do not sniff people, all right. 477 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 7: I just think that because I don't smoke, like, I 478 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 7: can smell a lot better like you. 479 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: You do gain like. 480 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 7: Your sense of smell back pretty quickly. You don't realize 481 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: like how much like when you're just housing down two 482 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 7: packs a day, you just lose your sense of smell 483 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 7: and kind of taste. 484 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: He has a new lease on life and. 485 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 6: Smell Yes, with all due respect, that's a bunch of 486 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 6: a Markie. 487 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: Groceries free pet food given out in Chicago to Snap 488 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: recipie and says shut down dragons drags on. Thousands get 489 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: groceries at south Side Church. Just a quick note on this. 490 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: From churches to the Chicago Animal Care and Control, the 491 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: local community is coming together in a help in an 492 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: effort to help struggling those struggling without the Supplemental Nutrition 493 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Assistance Program benefits during the shutdown. You get into this 494 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: piece and then it talks about how the Chicago Animal 495 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: Care and Control was able to host a pet food 496 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: pantry to support pen owners impacted by the recent SNAP 497 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: benefit pause. That's all fine and dandy, but Snap doesn't 498 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: offer free pet food. Are you surety? I am fairly 499 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: certain at least that's what I saw. Or do you 500 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: know otherwise? 501 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 7: So technically humans can eat dog food. 502 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: They do make a point in the story where they 503 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: do not want people eating the pet food. 504 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't what I mean. 505 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 7: But if you're starving, you eat, probably gonna eat the 506 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 7: dog food. 507 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 5: But nobody is star. 508 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, maybe can you buy Here's what I 509 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 7: do know for a fact, because I was actually shocking 510 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 7: all I went with my sister to a food shelf. 511 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 7: My sister in this entire conversation about people starving and 512 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 7: all this stuff is so absurd because there are so 513 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 7: many churches that are offering these services, there are so 514 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 7: many food pantries that are offering these services. But when 515 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 7: my sister would go to the food pantry, they were like, 516 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 7: here's cat food, here's cat litter, like all of these 517 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 7: different things. Now she didn't need it because she didn't 518 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 7: have a cat at the time, but I was like, 519 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 7: holy cow, Like they're literally at food shelves giving pet food. 520 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 7: And my whole thing is like, if you can't take 521 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: care of your pet, my goodness, maybe you shouldn't have 522 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 7: a pet. Like when you see homeless people out there 523 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 7: and and bums and. 524 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: They got dogs, I feel so bad for the hot Well. 525 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: SNAP feels the same way because you cannot buy pet food. 526 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: Snap money benefits are restricted to food and plants for 527 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: human consumption. 528 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: And yes, they do say do not eat the dog food. 529 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: Do not eat the dogs sounds like it sounds like 530 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: a sounds like a scam, but. 531 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: You can't eat the dugs. 532 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: It does give me an opportunity to go to this story. 533 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Though, pet owners are going after the Associated Press after 534 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: the outlet published a video suggesting that pets make climate 535 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: change worse. The video, posted to social media, said that 536 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: pets worsen climate change by needing food and high meat content. 537 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: The video also recommended that people seeking to own a 538 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: pet avoid breeders and instead adopted pets without owners. 539 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that. 540 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: I also don't have a problem with somebody wants to 541 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: go and get a very specific dog from a very 542 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: specific place that somebody wrote from the people who brought you, 543 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: you will all eat bugs. It comes sacrifice your your 544 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: pets for climate change. It's interesting, though, because the fake 545 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: meat and bug protein that all kind of died, that 546 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: went away. You and I were talking about that a 547 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and the whole the fake meat 548 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: craze popped up, and that's suddenly kind of just went 549 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: along with all of the criticism of the East Wing ballroom. 550 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I have a little bit of a 551 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 7: conspira conspiratorial take on this. I think that it went 552 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 7: away because they've just integrated all the cloned meat into 553 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 7: our beef supply. That's what I personally think, because if 554 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 7: you remember, there was this back and forth about whether 555 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 7: or not they should have to label lab created meat. 556 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 7: I'm not talking about like the fake meat, because they 557 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 7: have to label that because they want to market it. 558 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 7: But my understanding is that you do not actually have 559 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 7: to label cloned meat. And so my fear is that 560 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 7: it's just all up in our beef supply and broad 561 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 7: eaten clone beef. 562 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: You know what, Please don't start talking about it again. 563 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 5: I'm just wondering back to the free dog. 564 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 8: Food pertly, who is just feeding their dog whatever they 565 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 8: can get. 566 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 5: Their hands on. My dog would not do well. He 567 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 5: has a sensitive stomach. 568 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 8: I mean, if you switch his food, he's like a mess. 569 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Part of this has a has a chicken allergy, which 570 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: is really difficult because like when it comes to foods 571 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: for dogs like chicken, like there's chickens like in all 572 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: of it, Like it's hard to find it without chicken machios. 573 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: She's very, very very sensitive tummy on my puppy beans. 574 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 7: He's like three years old now, but he'll eat everything 575 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 7: and uh we he was getting a little fat and 576 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 7: the vets, like you might want to lay off of 577 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 7: giving him everything. That you eat all the time. But 578 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 7: he's lost three pounds recently, so you know, because we 579 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 7: haven't been feeding him in as much. But he'll eat 580 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 7: anything that I give him anything, And so if I 581 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 7: mean some, he'll just sit there hemo big and I'll 582 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 7: give him, you know, a little little bite cat. You 583 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 7: say the cat or dog dog, it means the Boston 584 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 7: Terry more like a cat. 585 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: Dude to me, Oh, I hate cats. 586 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: I guess I was wrong. 587 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 7: I think that they are demon spawns. Okay, I don't 588 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 7: understand why people own cats. They are worthless. They don't 589 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 7: do anything that is beneficial you. I was not just rude. 590 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: I hate cats. My mother in law has a cat. 591 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: I hate it. 592 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: Something tells me the grace is a cat person. 593 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 5: Everyone in my life hates cats. I don't understand, like 594 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 5: the intense cat hatred. 595 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: They have no loyalty. 596 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: Every day it works. 597 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: So not sure I own cats. 598 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: I've had cats. 599 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: You have cat angels. 600 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 8: You have cat little free angels who want nothing more 601 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 8: than to love you and per when they see you. 602 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: I'm with you, No, I'm with you. I'm in the 603 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: dogs now. 604 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: But I had cats before when I was younger, and 605 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: cats are. 606 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 8: Funny like cats will do some really funny stuff if 607 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 8: they're If they're around, and they'll just hide and then 608 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 8: come out and jump around. 609 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 5: That's nice. 610 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 7: Listen, when you're sick, your dog will come and be 611 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 7: chilling by you. Your cat is like, I hope you die. 612 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 11: You've had the wrong cats, That's what I'm getting out 613 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 11: of this. 614 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: You've had the wrong cat. 615 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 9: Well. 616 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 7: I did have a traumatic experience where I spit doritos 617 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 7: at my cat when I was five, and when my 618 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 7: mom found out that I was doing it to the 619 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 7: family cat, she then too doritos and spit them back 620 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 7: at me. 621 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: But maybe that's why. 622 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of cats, I had this story. The unofficial 623 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: mayor of a busy San Francisco street is dead after 624 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: being struck by one of Waimo's self driving cars. 625 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: Uhuh get paid. 626 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: This unofficial mayor went by the name of kit Cat. 627 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: This was a beloved cat at Randa's Market run over 628 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: by an automated car back on October twenty seventh. He 629 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: was rushed to the hospital by a bartender working nearby, 630 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: but unfortunately was pronounced dead on arrival. Kit Cast's death 631 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: has sparked an outpouring of fury and sadness from those 632 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: who loved him, and questions about the dangers posed by 633 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: self driving cars. Randa's market owner told Rolling Stone magazine 634 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: he was a special cat. You can tell by the 635 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: love and support he's getting from the community that he 636 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: was amazing. Anger in the community has increased after it 637 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: was revealed that on the same day that Kitcat was 638 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: killed the waymos Ceo said that he thought society was 639 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: ready to accept deaths caused by automated cars. The kit 640 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: Kat's owner pointed out at the time that the death 641 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: could have been that of a child, not just a 642 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: beloved pet. I have not been in a self driving 643 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: car yet, and I'm not eager to get into one 644 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: I have. I'm bad enough with just other drivers in 645 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: being in cars. I can't imagine just a self driving car. 646 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, in Vegas, I did a self driving lift, and 647 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 7: then I've done a weimo in Phoenix, So okay, oh yeah, 648 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 7: that's cool. 649 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: Have either of you you broads o? I'm pulling that 650 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: from Phil. 651 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: By the way, for those that have just now joined 652 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: the show, have either of you been in a self 653 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: driving car? 654 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: And would you go in a self driving car? 655 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 6: No? 656 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 8: But yes I feel like totally. I mean, and cats 657 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 8: is a small humans bigger I mean, I don't know. 658 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: Once I think I think Waimo. 659 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 7: I think Waimo hates cats and they've actually programmed their 660 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 7: waymost to hit cats, and I think it's a service 661 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 7: to humanity. 662 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: Thanks your podcast, Cats, Small Humans, Bigger. 663 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 10: I appreciate Catherine education there what what the more? 664 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 4: You know? 665 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 10: Wow? 666 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: They knew and they let it happen. 667 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: Catherine Johnson, thank you very much for coming in studio 668 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: this morning. 669 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 5: You're welcome. 670 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 6: Everyone. 671 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 8: Please check out the American Experiment podcast. Grace and I 672 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 8: have so much fun and you will too. 673 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: Check about YouTube Grace Skating, thank you as well for 674 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: coming in this morning. 675 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me my gosh Aka Kamara. 676 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 3: Thank you. 677 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 7: Follow me on x, Facebook, Instagram, heterosexual mail like the 678 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 7: Smell of Women, Follow me at Real ak Kamara and 679 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 7: over on TikTok at ak Kamara, where I'm producing hot 680 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 7: hot takes every day. 681 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Sam, thank you so much for the work this morning. 682 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely rand Sam. 683 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for your cheap knowledge. 684 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 6: Sam. 685 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 4: Are you a dog or cat dude? 686 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: But definitely dog? 687 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 6: Yeah? 688 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: Right, I knew it. Okay, I go both ways. 689 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: Wait, WHOA take that clip that have. 690 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: A fantastic weekend, everybody. If you miss the show, check 691 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: out the podcast Talk to You Monday. 692 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 6: Bye,