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Speaker 1: Watched the Olympics in won't till men's hockey starts. But

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind in.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty eight the Mexico City Olympics, John Carlos and

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Speaker 1: If people want a campaign for change and use their platform,

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Speaker 1: Then go ahead and do that, because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: free speech for now, this is the Mark Mann Show.

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Speaker 2: We the people.

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Speaker 1: I had some guys say that to be on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: Uh, and let's talk about bad Bunny.

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Speaker 1: Do. Let's get all this out the way, and you

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Speaker 1: H I had somebody just tweet, I'm gonna stop listening

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Speaker 1: to you, good, good stop. Now, There's never been a

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Speaker 2: Jake Paul lives in Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 1: If you don't think the Puerto Rican should be on

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Speaker 1: I mean I went to forty one Pirate games in

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Speaker 2: See that's the thing. You guys just won't accept what is.

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Speaker 1: You won't accept that it's good that Cutch is gone

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just you.

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Speaker 1: Gotta stand and deliver. You guys, don't ever force the

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Speaker 1: me tell you what could propel the Pirates over five hundred.

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Speaker 1: to the next level is O'Neil cruz by having a

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Speaker 1: now the Dominican mentors, they y'all sink tenor mentors is well,

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Speaker 2: The number to call my name is Mark Madden.

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Speaker 1: We got Matt Williamson talking Super Bowl when Steelers at

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Speaker 3: Ex at one oh five nine.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know how you feel about the Ozuna

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Speaker 1: Cutch already took the Pirates off his Twitter profile.

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Speaker 2: Big baby that he is. Would you rather have Azuna

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Speaker 1: Here here's a good SoundBite from Dan Patrick and he

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Speaker 4: When a Super Bowl turns into a track meet, the

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Speaker 4: What we saw last night was not bad football. It

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Speaker 2: That's the beauty of dominating defense.

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Speaker 1: Last night's Super Bowl did not provide that. Last night

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to welcome our football guru, the pro

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Speaker 1: and college Scott Matt Williamson. Matt, what makes Seattle's defense

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really impressive. I think McDonald, their head coach

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Speaker 5: And one thing I wanted to harp On with him

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Speaker 5: Not to mention he's got great players. I mean, there's

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Speaker 5: But the league is really trending towards accomplishing these goals.

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Speaker 1: New England never really had a chance, did they. I

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Speaker 1: don't think good defense is boring. I think New England

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Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, that part was what really stood out to

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Speaker 2: Over and their possessions were just bang over.

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Speaker 5: Bang over, and every little sign of life they had,

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Speaker 5: Seattle shut the door immediately, like it looked like maybe

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're just you know, a bunch of velociraptors

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Speaker 5: And the Patriots O line was massively overmatched and the

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Speaker 1: Well, let's stay with him for a second. I don't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also give Josh McDaniels to the offense

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Speaker 3: They did not.

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Speaker 5: Adjust to a lot of the glitzes that I mentioned

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Speaker 1: They not only got overwhelmed on offense, but I thought

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Speaker 5: They were really stagnant. They didn't do a lot to

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Speaker 1: That's the one I said that I was doing a

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Speaker 2: They never really did that. They never really never even

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Speaker 5: So I think everyone remembers when Mahomes was totally under

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like New England this year maybe because

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Speaker 5: Yes, I think they're way ahead of schedule, and the

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Speaker 2: You can only play who's put in front of you.

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Speaker 5: Right, and Rabel did a great job. He had me

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, that's right where the fine were.

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Speaker 3: I think they would have.

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Speaker 5: Beaten New England with Knicks, especially because the quarterback running

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Speaker 2: Would they have given Would they have given Seattle a

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Speaker 5: I would just say they'd be way more competitive offensive line.

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Speaker 5: I still think New England's got one of the worst.

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Speaker 5: At least would have been more competitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. You know what's funny.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Buffalo had a very good team, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think he's that good, that he's.

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Speaker 5: The the superhero out there that if he's just on

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Speaker 1: Now, how did Donald play? What did his perform proof?

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Speaker 5: I thought he played fine, But I think his performance

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Speaker 1: You would know this better than me, But I was

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Speaker 5: Yes, And part of it, I think is Seattle's pass

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so many different looks. And you can do that, you.

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Speaker 1: Know now, Like you said, I think Walker was an

440
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: easy MVP kind of by default, but not quite.

441
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Speaker 2: He he had a heck of a game.

442
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Speaker 1: I felt bad when the long run got called back, yeah,

443
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: because I think that would have been the cherry on

444
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Speaker 1: top and it would have been a memorable highlight from

445
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Speaker 1: a game that didn't have many.

446
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 5: That's true, That's true, and he was phenomenal. Not a

447
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: big threat at all in the passing game, but one

448
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: of the best ball carriers in the league right now.

449
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 5: I thought he was one of the big difference makers,

450
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Speaker 5: especially in the first half. He had about one hundred

451
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Speaker 5: yards almost in the first half. I thought there were

452
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Speaker 5: a couple of defenders Haul, Witherspoon, Murphy that had a

453
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 5: shot to be MVP, but they kind of all canceled

454
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Speaker 5: each other out.

455
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Speaker 3: You know.

456
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Speaker 2: You know what, I think Walker did really well.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't know the numbers met, but I thought his

458
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: yards after contact was impressive.

459
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Speaker 3: It was great.

460
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Speaker 5: He also had some lev bell moments where he'd almost

461
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Speaker 5: stop his feet. Ye yeah, I let everything, let Hi

462
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Speaker 5: block develop burst, you know, and explosive player.

463
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Speaker 1: One of the more complete games we've seen in a

464
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Speaker 1: big game by a running back.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, absolutely, I mean he's a phenomenal player about

466
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Speaker 5: the free agency become very rich.

467
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Speaker 1: The first four scores were field goals and five field

468
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Speaker 1: goals total.

469
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Speaker 2: Our field goals now going to be a thing again,

470
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 2: because it.

471
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Speaker 3: Really is so much better at it now.

472
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Speaker 1: It really did contrast though, to the coaches who kept

473
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: going for it.

474
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Speaker 2: Yes on fourth and close.

475
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Speaker 3: I don't think there have any fourth doun attempts in

476
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Speaker 3: this game.

477
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think there were either.

478
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: In yeah, I know.

479
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Speaker 1: Does that reflect the number of times that fourth and

480
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: close blew up on the offense because it happened a

481
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Speaker 1: lot down the stretch and in prior Playoffick did.

482
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Speaker 5: And as I'm saying, I didn't think about this angle

483
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Speaker 5: until you asked it. But both these coaches are also

484
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Speaker 5: defensive minded guys. Seattle went forward on fourth I think

485
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 5: last in the entire league. They were the best team

486
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Speaker 5: in the league, and they went on for fourth down

487
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Speaker 5: the least. Now, probably some of that's because they're playing

488
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 5: with leads and didn't have to late in games. I'm

489
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Speaker 5: sure there's some situation to it, but I also think

490
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Speaker 5: it's noteworthy that and this is just a season long thing.

491
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Speaker 5: With the adjustments they made to the kickoff role this year,

492
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Speaker 5: teams are starting at to thirty five a lot, and

493
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Speaker 5: you almost I only have to get to like midfield

494
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 5: to be in field goal range with these kickers.

495
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Speaker 2: So I don't like that. I don't love that either.

496
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Speaker 1: There's no way to get rid of it, but like,

497
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Speaker 1: I don't like that that you you don't have to,

498
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Speaker 1: like you said, move the ball hardly at all to

499
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Speaker 1: get a field.

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Speaker 5: Goal, two first downs or whatever, and you're almost vent

501
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 5: three points with the kickers are so good.

502
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Speaker 1: Now will it be a thing again? I mean, because

503
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Speaker 1: Super bowls do cost trends.

504
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't doubt it. I mean I think that we're

505
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 5: really in a weird age of kickers. To be honest

506
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Speaker 5: with you, yeah, it depends on the kicker, you have

507
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Speaker 5: to yeah.

508
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
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Speaker 1: My big fear was before Walker got going, or they

510
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Speaker 1: couldn't have to give the MVP to the kicker. You

511
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Speaker 1: know what, though, they just wouldn't have. He could have

512
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Speaker 1: kicked seven. He ain't getting the frigging MVP of the

513
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

514
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Speaker 2: Matt.

515
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Speaker 1: Now that the season's over, how do you look back

516
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: at it? I feel like in many ways, the whole

517
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: season was a hiccup. I feel like there wasn't a

518
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: great team this year, but Seattle was the closest, so

519
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: full credit. Yeah, and I feel like next year, I bet.

520
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: The big name quarterbacks take over again.

521
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to be a trend.

522
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Speaker 5: I mean, I know we've seen two Super Bowls in

523
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 5: a row Donald Hurts where the Hall of Fame type

524
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: quarterback didn't win it. But I still think that's the

525
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: best path, you know. I mean, oh, no question, Burrow,

526
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 5: allan Lamar, even these guys that haven't won one.

527
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I feel like if Burrow stays healthy, they win

528
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: the division.

529
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Speaker 2: Believe it or not.

530
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Speaker 1: I I just think they did so much with him prior,

531
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Speaker 1: but then again, him staying healthy, he's never guarantee.

532
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Speaker 2: And I figure like.

533
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs rebound, but I think the Chiefs have to

534
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: be smart enough to see that they need turnover. I'll

535
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Speaker 1: give an example and you'll probably disagree with this. I'm

536
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: not sure i'd want Kelsey to come back.

537
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Speaker 3: No, I understand that too.

538
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: I would like like, at some point this is not

539
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: relevant or conversation, but there's a big you know, a

540
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Speaker 1: big they need like the.

541
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Speaker 3: Part two of the generation.

542
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, And there's a big outcry for example,

543
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: because the Pirates.

544
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: Now we're going to move on from McCutcheon.

545
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: I think sometimes teams just need to turn the page

546
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's symbolic, but that helps too.

547
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Speaker 5: No, I agree, and frankly, I'm not sure if Reid

548
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: still has his fastball too.

549
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I mean.

550
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: Their offense for three years in a row now has

551
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: been okay, not great. With the best quarterback on the planet,

552
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 5: that's not acceptable. But I do think a trend in

553
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: the league to original question was defenses kind of ruled

554
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: the day. I mean, yeah, Houston went far, Denver went far, Philly,

555
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: I mean, those are the best defenses in the league.

556
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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I got a couple of tweets,

557
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: well see defense wins games, and I say, yeah, but

558
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: not the Steelers. I mean, why is Seattle's defense so

559
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: good and the Steelers not? Where's the difference? Is the

560
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Steelers defense just too old?

561
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Speaker 5: Well, I think schematically, this is what I'm excited about

562
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 5: the new defensive coordinators.

563
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: I don't think I am too.

564
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 5: The previous staff gave the Steelers schematic advantages at all,

565
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: and I think Seattle gets about the most.

566
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Speaker 1: You know, I think the players want a death. I

567
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: think I think TJ. Watt and Cam Hayward just want

568
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: to do what they want to do. And I hope

569
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Graham is the boss. Yeah, I think that defense.

570
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: I think this team needs a.

571
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Boss, I agree, and a creative mind. And I give

572
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Speaker 3: Graham credit.

573
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Speaker 5: I mean that might have been the worst defensive personnel

574
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 5: in the league, Max Crosby, and he made them an

575
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 5: average defense that's hard.

576
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: And you know what else he did too.

577
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: He found a way for Max Crosby to excel despite

578
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: him being the obvious target for the other teams to stop.

579
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: Moved him around a ton, gave him a ton of freedom.

580
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm curious how Watt and Hayward and those guys

581
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 5: respond to that.

582
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Well, they better respond properly, because like it's it's been

583
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: a while.

584
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. If Rogers is the quarterback and it certainly looks.

585
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: Like that it's leaning that way out.

586
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: How does that constitute the Steelers moving forward? I know

587
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: you think it's a good idea, but it's obviously very

588
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: short term.

589
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: It's as short term as could be.

590
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: I have mixed feelings about it because he's he's never

591
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: going to be the old dog that learns new tricks.

592
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: He plays the way he does.

593
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: I think his presence in the locker room and to

594
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: help develop a young quarterback, even if it's only Howard,

595
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: has a lot of value just being near him. I

596
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 5: love his approach to the game. I love him from

597
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: the neck up. But we saw it last night and

598
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: we even talked about it a little bit with Darnold

599
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: in his pocket movement. You have to be a better

600
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: athlete and at least bring something to the table as

601
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: a runner. I mean, these quarterbacks that don't run. You

602
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 5: have to be Matthew Stafford MVP level player to be

603
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: effective in today's NFL.

604
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: And he's more mobile than Rogers little bit.

605
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: But I mean he still doesn't run.

606
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: You know what, You know what, And maybe this is

607
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: unfair on my part, matt What aggravates me about Rogers

608
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: is he will not, ever, under any circumstance, take a

609
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: hit to make a play. As soon as somebody's close,

610
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: he just dumps it out. Yeah, and I get it.

611
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: If I were forty two forty three, I wouldn't want

612
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: to get hit either. Yeah, but I think he took

613
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: it to an extreme that that took away from his playmaker.

614
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 5: I don't disagree, and there's some numbers that really are

615
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: frustrating in terms of his average pass how far behind

616
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Speaker 5: the first down markers.

617
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: They are were historically low.

618
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: And I hope this system changes that, and it got

619
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: better as the season went on.

620
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: But you can't just be Dnking and Duncan.

621
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Speaker 2: Well, they're going to use more wide outs, that's the car.

622
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: And don't you think that more middle field.

623
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Speaker 1: Don't you think that'll pull people back a little bit,

624
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: but not not that they'll not pressure him.

625
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: It'll be more difficult to do.

626
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 5: Yes, And I think the old line will be in

627
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: a little bit better place, and I think the offense

628
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: will be better assuming he comes back.

629
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Speaker 2: I mean that said who's going to play wide out?

630
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: I mean they need to get three of them?

631
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need. Would that be your first round.

632
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: Pick quarterback aside wide receiver.

633
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: You don't think there's going to be a quarterback available.

634
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: You wouldn't take Ty Simpson twenty one, would you.

635
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 5: I'm still doing homework, and there's things I like, especially

636
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 5: his first eight or nine games were really really good,

637
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 5: and then there's some injuries and bad, really.

638
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: Bad stuff after that.

639
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 5: But I would put a chip down that they'll sign

640
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: a wide out like a Romeo Dobbs, draft one the

641
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 5: first round and really attack that position.

642
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: But when you say so, and I like Romeo Dobbs, yeah, okay,

643
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: but they got to get a guy like that.

644
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: They can't go to dollar general.

645
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

646
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: They need to spend decent money early in free agency

647
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: and draft one in like the first two round.

648
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: Would you bring back Calvin Austin.

649
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: Then the last resort?

650
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: I mean, if he was out there two three weeks

651
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 5: into free agency, maybe, but I want him to be

652
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 5: a number four.

653
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

654
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I wouldnt feel the need to quote unquote pursue him.

655
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking to him now.

656
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: But do you think he's gonna get offers?

657
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean not great.

658
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: The league is really trending against little receivers too, right,

659
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: and it doesn't help his cause at all.

660
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: This is like you know, chewing over old bones.

661
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: But drafting Kenny picking the first round all these years later,

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Speaker 1: that's really damaged them, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you got out of it financially, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but what else could have been?

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Speaker 2: I knew it would hurt them. I didn't think it

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Speaker 2: would hurt them for this long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they've.

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Speaker 1: Just they've just never really got a chance to replace them.

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Speaker 5: No, no, And I don't know that this year will

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Speaker 5: be the replacement either.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Would you take the hard look

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Speaker 1: him leak Willis? I mean, who would you rather have

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Speaker 1: him or Rogers?

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Speaker 3: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 5: Is Willis is the easier answer because you get him

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Speaker 5: for free.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not a trade candidate.

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Speaker 5: You might have got your franchise quarterback for the next

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Speaker 5: eight years for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's kind of my theory on it. Here's why

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Speaker 1: I'd bring Willis instead of Rogers. And that's no real

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Speaker 1: knock on Rogers. No, no, But my thing is, then

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Speaker 1: if you draft the guy next year and you say

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Speaker 1: you signed Willis for three years, would think then you're

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Speaker 1: hedging your bet one of them ought to turn out, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and you have a legitimate competition that said will Willis

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Speaker 1: want that? I mean, can he go someplace where he's

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Speaker 1: the definite starter, you know, for all three years of

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Speaker 1: his contract?

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Speaker 3: If Rogers returns, I don't think Willis.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'm but I'm talking about like

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Speaker 1: if he could see them drafting the quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 1: what I mean, like trying to be game.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think because he's played so little, it's tough to

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Speaker 1: really trust his body and work three games as much

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Speaker 1: as I do. Like what we've seen h I do too.

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Speaker 1: And he's exactly you mentioned before, Matt. Yeah, he's exactly

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Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback that's a thing in this league

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Speaker 1: right now, exactly.

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Speaker 5: And he's so far more advanced than he was coming

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Speaker 5: out of a tiny, little, tiny program that he might

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Speaker 5: you know, if you would sign him, there could be

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Speaker 5: an argument, I don't know, there could be an argument

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Speaker 5: he was terrible signing, or it could be an argument

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Speaker 5: that we don't need to go draft one.

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Speaker 3: Now. You know, you.

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Speaker 1: Know why they won't sign him because they could have

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Speaker 1: drafted him, drafted Picket instead.

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Speaker 2: That would highlight that mistake.

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Speaker 3: And I understand. I think it was down to those two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they don't like

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Speaker 1: to highlight their mistakes.

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Speaker 3: He's a way better player now than then, though, too.

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Speaker 2: Well that's true.

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Speaker 3: Well, I had Willis ahead of Pickets, and that's documented.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's because the liberty liberty curve. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: didn't know, but you could, you could.

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Speaker 5: Figure yeah, yeah, I mean there's way more to work

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Speaker 5: with and it was a bigger swing to take.

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Speaker 1: Willis what if Kenny Pickett have play at Liberty Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to even think about that. That's Matt Williams,

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Speaker 1: and Matt, thanks for your work all year. We'll hook

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