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Speaker 2: Hey, man, if there's anybody in Seattle who's take you

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Speaker 2: have to have on certain issues, it's our next guest.

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Speaker 2: The Gras joining us right now here to talk about

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Speaker 2: a plethora of things. I assume we'd love to weigh

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Speaker 2: in on the Mariners run a year ago, the season

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Speaker 2: starting up, the Hawks, Super Bowl championship, the return of

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Speaker 2: the NBA, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: The Gras with us right now. David, how are you

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Speaker 3: about that?

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Speaker 4: That was on podcasts all the time? Man, That's what

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Speaker 4: I was doing podcast.

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Speaker 2: God, I've missed you, I missed you.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 3: That's funny, dude.

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Speaker 2: I was having lunch with some people today and I

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Speaker 2: and the guy and the guy that was there. He's

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Speaker 2: like when you're a kid growing up and you always

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Speaker 2: got that one little friend that you can't just stop

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Speaker 2: giggling and laughing when you're in class together. You were

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Speaker 2: always that guy for me, Like Gas would get so

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Speaker 2: pissed off when we would have to record the Twelve

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Speaker 2: Days of Christmas because you and I are acting like

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Speaker 2: freaking idiots in the recording studio. And I'm glad to

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Speaker 2: know that nothing has changed between us, Man, nothing.

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Speaker 4: Not a thing, brother, not a thing. Let's say you

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Speaker 4: stay young as I stay happy, as you steer out

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Speaker 4: all the time, and we did. You know, we both

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Speaker 4: realize that funny is funny. That's right, and we'd have

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Speaker 4: the same funny crap all the time. I say to you,

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Speaker 4: a random statement like that would be for this suit

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Speaker 5: That's right, right us.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a scene from Blazing Saddles that Dave and

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Speaker 2: I like to laugh about. Well, listen, man, First of all,

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Speaker 2: this is pretty cool, man, because you've been very public, honestly, man,

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Speaker 3: You're not hiding it from anybody.

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Speaker 2: When you got the call that the American Parkinson Disease

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Speaker 2: Association wanted to honor you on March the thirteenth or

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Speaker 2: March the fourteenth, sorry that that had to feel pretty

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Speaker 4: It was surprising because you know, getting a huntred for

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Speaker 4: it's just like it's just like you said, it's really

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Speaker 4: it's if I can do anything to help raise money,

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Speaker 4: because this is the worst damn thing out there, I'm

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Speaker 4: so it's nice of them to acknowledge me. Hopefully, you

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Speaker 4: know what we can do is we can raise some

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Speaker 4: that this part of the disease has been around as

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Speaker 4: Thirty hundred forty years has been around it. We got

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Speaker 4: Now that's one person every six minutes in the US.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's just unbelievable. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's touched you personally. Obviously everyone knows someone who has it,

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Speaker 4: And so I've been helped that the head of the

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Gus will be there as well. It'll be

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of sports topics that I

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Speaker 3: But you mentioned you mentioned battling this disease.

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Speaker 2: Man, I mean, just kind of give people Dave if

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Speaker 4: Well, I've had it for about eight years, which is

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Speaker 4: the auction. That one of them is a generous gift

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Speaker 3: Two point fifty. You know, anybody who can get me

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Speaker 2: that out. But I mean, man, your your sense of

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Speaker 3: I love it. God, I love this. Oh my God,

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Speaker 2: Let's do this more often, man, Let's make sure we

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Speaker 4: All right, Well me, David, thanks very much and love

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Speaker 6: Good morning, sir, you're leaving right when it's getting good.

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Speaker 5: It's been good. It's been really good, very good.

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Speaker 5: You know. Can I stay at the Hollanders house?

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Speaker 9: in the ground as of now, so it would be

435
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Speaker 9: then then that's the reason for the versatility of Brendan Donovan,

436
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Speaker 9: if you were needing to put him at second.

437
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Speaker 6: Or third, correct, I think that Colt will see reps

438
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Speaker 6: at second, short, and third this spring. I think if

439
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Speaker 6: if he were to break with the club, most likely

440
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 6: his reps would would primarily be at third base.

441
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Speaker 5: Okay, So, how then does Donovan approach spring? Is he

442
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,720
Speaker 5: just going to get third base reps right now? I

443
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 5: think you'll see a lot of third base. You'll see

444
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Speaker 5: some second base and you'll see some outfield. I think

445
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Speaker 5: it's important for us to maximize his value and make

446
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Speaker 5: sure that he continues to stay in touch with all

447
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Speaker 5: the positions that he's played in the past. I do

448
00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 5: think you're gonna see more reps from third base from him.

449
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 5: You know, in Saint Louis they had no one Aronto,

450
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 5: you know, a platinum glover. It's not really necessary for

451
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,959
Speaker 5: him to go get a ton of reps there for us.

452
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 5: He's gonna play a lot of third, but you'll see

453
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Speaker 5: him take some reps at second on a day. You'll

454
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Speaker 5: see him playing the outfield a little later in the

455
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Speaker 5: spring as well. Justin Hollander is with us here on

456
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Speaker 5: chucking back. I want to stay on Donovan here. I mean,

457
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Speaker 5: I've made this comparison before, but I mean I've like

458
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Speaker 5: fantasy football. I will sit there and like, why isn't

459
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 5: this guy responding to my trade. It's been forty eight hours,

460
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 5: just yes or no. So I get worked up over

461
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 5: fantasy football. When you're doing it for real and you're

462
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 5: sitting there waiting for the Saint Louis Cardinals to get

463
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Speaker 5: you back. I mean, you made it very clear that

464
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 5: you want Donovan you've circled Donovan, You're in on Donovan.

465
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 5: The Cardinals are trying to trade Donovan, and yet it

466
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Speaker 5: stretched out for a long period of time. How excruciating

467
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 5: is it when the bullets are real. I think you

468
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 5: ride the highs and the lows. Some days you feel like, oh,

469
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 5: we're making progress. Some days you feel like, why aren't

470
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Speaker 5: we getting a call back? You know, my kids started

471
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 5: asking me every day, did we get Donovan today?

472
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Speaker 7: No?

473
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 6: Guys doing in here?

474
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 5: I use your kid as an insider. That's what I

475
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 5: need to do. I should tap into you know, it

476
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 5: could probably be bought with some video games and what

477
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 5: have you.

478
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Speaker 6: Head to the third grade and the fifth grade in

479
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Speaker 6: Chulin at the Evergreen School, they got all the dope. No,

480
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 6: it's you know, I think you try and focus on

481
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Speaker 6: what you can control, and all we can control is,

482
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Speaker 6: you know, making sure that they're aware of our interest

483
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 6: and what we're willing to do and all we aren't

484
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Speaker 6: willing to do. And you know it's not our decision.

485
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Speaker 6: They had every right to take as long as they

486
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Speaker 6: wanted to take to sort of root out and make

487
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Speaker 6: sure they were digging in on every lead. They had

488
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Speaker 6: to make the best possible deal they could for them.

489
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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes that takes less time, Sometimes it takes

490
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Speaker 6: more time. Sometimes a team just decides to hold the player.

491
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Speaker 6: It's up to them how they want to handle that.

492
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Speaker 6: Thrilled that it resulted in a deal. At the end

493
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Speaker 6: of the day, we didn't need to have a trade

494
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Speaker 6: consummated in December. We're don't play games in December, right,

495
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Speaker 6: so getting it done the week before spring training perfectly

496
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 6: good for us.

497
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Speaker 9: Yeah, what is it? I mean, he seems like a

498
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 9: gritty ballplayer just from the little bit we've got to

499
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Speaker 9: know him. What was the main thing that you were

500
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Speaker 9: wanting him so badly for.

501
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Speaker 6: I think the combination of the bats of ball, the

502
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 6: sort of the lead off top of the lineup type skills,

503
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Speaker 6: and the versatility you reference Colt a second ago. Obviously,

504
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Speaker 6: we have Cole Young, we have Michael Royo. We have

505
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Speaker 6: a lot of young position players, particularly infielders, that are

506
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Speaker 6: coming through our system over the next year. Making sure

507
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Speaker 6: that we have a team that has a foundation good

508
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Speaker 6: enough to incorporate those guys so that you're not counting

509
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Speaker 6: on all of them to be good the moment they

510
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Speaker 6: walk into the big leagues. And Donovan having the ability

511
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Speaker 6: to float from position to position to position gives those

512
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Speaker 6: guys room to breathe and let us figure things and

513
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Speaker 6: figure things out well, not sort of jeopardizing the current

514
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Speaker 6: quality of our big league team. So that's a rare combination.

515
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Speaker 6: You don't often have players with his kind of sort

516
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Speaker 6: of batter's box skill set also be versatile enough to

517
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Speaker 6: play three or four spots capably to at it than capably.

518
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Speaker 5: Justin Hollander is whether it's general manager of the Seattle Mariners.

519
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 5: What an off season that they had. They got Brenda Donoman,

520
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 5: they got Jose Ferrer, who will ask him about here

521
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Speaker 5: in a moment, But I'll stay on a few of

522
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Speaker 5: the names before we get off of it. You brought

523
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Speaker 5: up a royal who's hitting eighth in the lineup today.

524
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Speaker 5: We haven't discussed him much this week, but a very

525
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Speaker 5: interesting prospect you mentioned Cole Young. Ryan Bliss is here,

526
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 5: Leo Reeboss is here. Colet Emerson we've already discussed. I mean,

527
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna have one starting second basement, maybe two at

528
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Speaker 5: the max if you end up doing some sort of

529
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Speaker 5: platoon there. I have no idea. So is this is

530
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Speaker 5: just a as pure a camp battle as you can

531
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Speaker 5: have for the second base position, meaning you may not

532
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Speaker 5: have in your head somebody that you've already said is

533
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Speaker 5: the front runner. Is just whoever plays the best is

534
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Speaker 5: gonna be starting second basement on opening day.

535
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Speaker 6: That's probably a little bit of a stretch. I would

536
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Speaker 6: say as we walk in the door today, Cole Young's

537
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Speaker 6: the favorite. I love how Cole's off season one. If

538
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Speaker 6: you've seen him talking around, he looks fantastic right now.

539
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 6: He was chiseled. He really put the time in, the

540
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Speaker 6: work in. You know, Cole was got rid of that

541
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 6: silly mustache. The mustache is hard for anybody to pull off.

542
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 6: I don't want to judge Cole's. Mine would be really

543
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Speaker 6: bad too. No, it's Cole was the youngest or second

544
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 6: youngest regular in the PCL last year, and then we

545
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Speaker 6: brought in the big leagues and he was one of

546
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Speaker 6: the five youngest players in the big leagues last year,

547
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Speaker 6: and for a good five six week stretch, he was

548
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Speaker 6: awesome last year. He was really good, and then he

549
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 6: ran out of gas, and that happens to young players sometimes.

550
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 6: The big league environment is a tough one to susane energy.

551
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Speaker 6: And it was pretty clear as we got in September

552
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 6: that Cole was just dragging a little bit, and I

553
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 6: think he took a lot of steps this offseason to

554
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Speaker 6: make sure that doesn't happen again. He's going to be

555
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 6: a really good player. I would say he's going to

556
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Speaker 6: get the first crack at, you know, the starting second basement.

557
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 6: That doesn't mean he's gonna play every day, and it

558
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's his forever. And I think he approached

559
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 6: the winner like he's got to earn it. I think

560
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 6: Michael probably needs some more time still. Leo is a

561
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 6: perfect player as sort of a move around the field,

562
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 6: you know, utility player in the big leagues. He can

563
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Speaker 6: do a lot of things well. It takes great at

564
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 6: bats and can play all the infield spots and I

565
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 6: think you'll see him standing the outfield a little bit

566
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Speaker 6: this spring too. So as a player who helps the

567
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Speaker 6: team function, Leo is is probably as you know, a

568
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 6: good a fit as you can have on the roster

569
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Speaker 6: to help augment what we have with the rest of

570
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Speaker 6: the major league team.

571
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Speaker 9: Justin Hollander with us, I mean talking about the outfield,

572
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Speaker 9: I mean, obviously Julio is going to be playing. You're

573
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Speaker 9: gonna have a Rosena in there pretty much every day.

574
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Speaker 9: When you have can Zone robust coming back from the injury,

575
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Speaker 9: and then now you've added res Schneider into the whole mix,

576
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Speaker 9: how are you planning on? Is that going to be

577
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Speaker 9: a platoon possibly and then the others maybe the agent?

578
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's right. I think that we have

579
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Speaker 6: the advantage of, like we talked about earlier, having a

580
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Speaker 6: lot of versatile players and having a lot of players

581
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Speaker 6: who hit same side pitching pretty well, maybe less the

582
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 6: case and right field into the H spot and that's okay.

583
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 6: You can platoon in a couple spots and make it

584
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Speaker 6: sort of a functional roster for Dan to work through.

585
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 6: And I think that's what we'd anticipate, at least to start,

586
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Speaker 6: if everybody's the best version of themselves. I think Raley

587
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 6: and can Zone right playing right field and dhing against

588
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 6: right handed pitching is probably how we'll go at least

589
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Speaker 6: to start, Victor and ref Snyder, you know, playing right

590
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 6: field and dhing against left handed pitching, with the idea

591
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 6: that if one player is playing particularly well, they'll probably

592
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: get a little more reps. We're not going to lock

593
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Speaker 6: it in and you know, just say no matter what happens,

594
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 6: it's one hundred and five games for this player and

595
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 6: sixty games for that player. That's not how baseball season works,

596
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Speaker 6: but I think is a you know, as a standard,

597
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 6: a foundation how you want to set your lineup is

598
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 6: provide as many platoon advantages as you can over time.

599
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 6: You know, calbing a switch hitter and killing it from

600
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 6: both sides of the plate helps a ton.

601
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Speaker 5: You know.

602
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Speaker 6: We we have players that have specialties like Rob Refsnyder

603
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 6: killing left handed pitching, you know, can zone right hand

604
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 6: and pitching. That gives us a big advantage every night.

605
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Speaker 6: And we plan to take full advantage of it.

606
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Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the DH position and a lot of

607
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 5: Marinon fans, are you know who's going to be the DH?

608
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 5: Who's going to be the DH? And you know, based

609
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Speaker 5: off of your conversation, I would imagine that's going to

610
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Speaker 5: be a rotating type of thing, at least theoretically to

611
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: start the season. But you've got this prospect, another guy

612
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Speaker 5: we haven't talked about a lot this week, but every

613
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 5: day he's so nice. He walks in and out the

614
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 5: doorway and he waves to us every day, and Bucky

615
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 5: and he exchanged Spanish, you know, pleasantries and he's about

616
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 5: six foot nine two and eighty nine looks like Carl Malone.

617
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 5: So is Las Montees in this DH picture at some

618
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 5: point this year or will he be starting power forward

619
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Speaker 5: for you before the end of the year. Tell us

620
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 5: about monte.

621
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Speaker 6: One of the Sonics coming back now. I think Laz

622
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 6: could push his way into the mix at the end

623
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Speaker 6: of the season. I don't anticipate that where Laz is

624
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 6: at in his development, that he'd be a possibility to

625
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 6: break camp early in the season. But he's a really

626
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 6: unique talent. Obviously, power that you know, is at the

627
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 6: uppro echelon of what big league players have, and he's

628
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 6: twenty years old. We anticipate a really long right future

629
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 6: for Laz as a corner outfielder, mixing in at the

630
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 6: h as well. He's got some some hurdles to climb

631
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 6: over still in the minor leagues, but it's a really

632
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 6: unique talent. I think he's won the MVP at every

633
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 6: full season league he's ever played in, which is pretty unique. Wow,

634
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 6: you know that, and you know what he does, He

635
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 6: does really well, and he keeps getting better at the

636
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 6: areas where maybe he has some growth ahead of him.

637
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 6: So really excited to see how this camp goes. I

638
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 6: think Las will play a lot in this camp, and

639
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 6: then you know, he'll start in the minor leagues and

640
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 6: we'll see where we go. We Like I said when

641
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 6: we started with Colt, I just don't think it's a

642
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 6: good idea to put limits on players. I think you

643
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 6: send them the wrong message, and I think you send

644
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 6: the organization the wrong message if you decide in February

645
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 6: what lazz is ceiling or what cold ceiling is for

646
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 6: that year. I don't know that anybody's that good that

647
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 6: they can make those decisions and do it smartly.

648
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 5: I love that because it's a little bit of change

649
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: way it used to be.

650
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Speaker 3: No, you're prove it, son.

651
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Speaker 5: But I love that that's where we are in the

652
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 5: modern day, and I love that that's where you and

653
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 5: your staff are.

654
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 9: Just so you know where Laz's head is at. Yeah,

655
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 9: we just had a conversation. I said, what do you

656
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 9: think this year? Forty forty dingers and he's like fifty fifty.

657
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 9: I said, all right, thirty in the minor league's twenty

658
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 9: in the big leagues. I'll sign up for that, he said.

659
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 9: He nodded, and basically he agreed that that'd be okay.

660
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 6: So I'm confident that if he hits fifty, they won't

661
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 6: all be in the minor leagues.

662
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Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, go ahead and do that. I'm with you

663
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 9: on that one hundred percent. I mean moving to some

664
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Speaker 9: degree towards pitching a little bit. I mean I don't

665
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 9: want to you might have some other hitting stuff, but

666
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 9: I did want to go towards pitching because the idea

667
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 9: of adding the pharreer to the bullpen, I think is

668
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 9: a huge one. The dude has kind of a locomotive

669
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 9: of a fastball. It looks like adding him to the

670
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 9: mix with Gabe Spider to where he's not the only

671
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 9: guy that has to get loose every time a tough

672
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 9: left he comes up to the dish. What was your

673
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 9: feelings on him?

674
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Speaker 6: Really important for us? One just I think most good

675
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 6: teams have a second lefty, and we weren't just looking

676
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: to add any second lefty. We were looking to add

677
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 6: impact for us, particularly important five right handed starters. You

678
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 6: get a lot of lineups that are stacked with lefties.

679
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: The idea that Gabe has to get up in the

680
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: fifth and then the sixth and the seventh every night

681
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 6: whenever there's a possibility of a leverage moment coming. That's

682
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: really hard on him. He was unbelievable last year. We

683
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 6: want to make sure we're doing the right thing for

684
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 6: the team, and having sort of two real impact left

685
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 6: handed arms and the bullpen every night will be great

686
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 6: for our pitching group to work through. Obviously, Ferrera has

687
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 6: very unique qualities. It's, you know, a sinker that is

688
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 6: sort of unlike any other It's a sinker at ninety

689
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 6: seven ninety nine. We really really like to change up

690
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 6: in the slider as well. I think you'll see more

691
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 6: of that as he gets through his outings with us

692
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: and mixing it in, maybe helping miss a few more bats.

693
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 6: But we really think he's got a chance to be

694
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 6: one of the elite left handed relievers in baseball, and

695
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 6: giving us two of those guys is a really big advantages.

696
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 6: We get into you know, October baseball hopefully.

697
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: And I'll stay on pitching, but just a little aside

698
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: from the Ferrara, I mean, you draft a Harry Ford,

699
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 5: you develop a Harry Ford. He did everything you wanted

700
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: him to do at the minor league level, and yet

701
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: you've got Cal Rawly blocking him from the future. So

702
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: even though I always viewed him as a tradeable piece,

703
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 5: a logical tradeable piece, it's gotta be tough to give

704
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: up a guy that you know, you sort of nurtured

705
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: through this process.

706
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 6: You're always emotionally invested in the guys that you draft

707
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 6: and develop. We wouldn't have traded Harry just to trade Harry.

708
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: That doesn't make any sense. There's a place on a

709
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 6: big league club for a good second catcher. I think

710
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 6: that the path is a little more narrow for us

711
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 6: just because cow is gonna catch one hundred and twenty

712
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 6: games a year. It's not a true fifty to fifty

713
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 6: time share. But Harry's a good enough player. We believed

714
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 6: in Harry. We thought he could help our big league team.

715
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 6: We just believed the impact of Ferrera was gonna be

716
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 6: greater for us. So willing to trade and trading no

717
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 6: matter what, are two different things. We were willing to

718
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Speaker 6: make a trade to help our team get better. We

719
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: weren't gonna trade just to trade.

720
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Speaker 5: Are Hollander Excuse me, Hollander? Are we're talking to Hollander?

721
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 5: Are Anderson and Sloan like viable moves? Obviously we want

722
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 5: five starting pitchers to stay healthy all season long. But

723
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: I'm wondering about the starting pitching death. I would assume

724
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 5: Hancocks the next guy, the sixth man off the bench,

725
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: But are Anderson and Slum like seventh and eighth men.

726
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: Based on the buzz that I'm hearing around here.

727
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 6: That's a little quick. Obviously, Kate's never thrown a pitch

728
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: in a professional game. He's just thrown out here and

729
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 6: LIVEVP the other day for the first time. Could they

730
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 6: be at the end of the season again, I'll stick

731
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 6: with my no limits policy. Right sure, they could be

732
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: right now. They're not going to be on the depth

733
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 6: chart to start the season. Where we start and where

734
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 6: we end ares usually two different places. They're certainly talented

735
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 6: enough to be. What we saw from both those guys

736
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 6: and their live vps was special, really unique. Their composure,

737
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 6: their stuff, the strike throwing, the diversity of the repertoires.

738
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 6: Those guys are going to be really good, really soon.

739
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 6: Whether that happens in July or September or next May,

740
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 6: I couldn't tell you. We gotta keep them healthy, We

741
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: got to keep their progression going through the low miners

742
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 6: into the upper miners. Once you get to Arkansas. You know,

743
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: we've seen it with Bryce and Brian and George and Logan.

744
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: Once you get to Arkansas and start playing in Little Rock,

745
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 6: you're on the radar. So like, that's a conversation. I

746
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 6: think we'll revisit once they get to that point.

747
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 9: How happy are you about the health and whatnot of

748
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 9: the starting rotation? I mean, four years this team's been

749
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 9: a viable contender out there, and it's been in large

750
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 9: part because of that starting rotation. Dealt with some injuries

751
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 9: beginning even all the way down to the end of

752
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 9: the season. Everybody healthy right now.

753
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 6: Everybody's healthy, thank god. Right now. This is the one

754
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 6: area where I will always probably lose sleep is waking

755
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: up in the middle of the night fearing that somebody's

756
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 6: gonna get hurt. You know, you're gonna have to tap

757
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 6: into your depth. You can never have too much depth.

758
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 6: For that reason. I think last year was was a

759
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 6: tough one. You know, there were times that we're missing

760
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 6: two and then three of our five starters at various

761
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: points in the season. We hadn't had that in previous years.

762
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 6: We sort of lived in the life that everybody else

763
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: had lived in last year, which is you know, having

764
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 6: to tapp into your depth for not a week or

765
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 6: two at a time, but for months at a time.

766
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: You know.

767
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 6: Bryce Miller threw out here yesterday and looked awesome. He was,

768
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: you know, ninety seven ninety eight with all the secondary

769
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 6: pitches working in the strike zone. Really impressive. How he's

770
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 6: come out of the gate so far this spring. Brian

771
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: looks great. George, same thing. Louie will get off the mound,

772
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 6: I believe today or tomorrow. He was a little bit

773
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 6: delayed just because he had a baby and a little

774
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 6: beautiful baby girl, so they will. He was in camp

775
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 6: about five days late, so he'll get off the mountain,

776
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 6: I believe tomorrow. And then and Logan looks like Logan,

777
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 6: so knock on wood. Everybody's healthy today. Please let's keep

778
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 6: him that way for the next seven months.

779
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 5: Just the overall picture before we let you go. This

780
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: feels complete. It feels like you guys are settled. It

781
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: feels like you guys believe this is the roster.

782
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: And we can't not wait to go to battle with

783
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 6: it all. That's definitely true. I am certain we're gonna

784
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 6: keep looking around for ways to get better. I'm certain

785
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 6: we'll get into mid season and will want to do

786
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 6: more things, and at the deadline, we'll want to have

787
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: another bullpen guy, maybe we'll need a starter, maybe we'll

788
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 6: need another bat. You never know what's gonna come. I

789
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 6: wouldn't anticipate any like, you know, sort of like headline

790
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 6: additions for the rest of the spring. I think that

791
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 6: getting Donovan done really did change the tenor of the

792
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 6: off season and really did make it feel like a

793
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 6: complete off season for us. Obviously, the waiting and sort

794
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 6: of hinging our off season on that it's sort of

795
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 6: made it a little nerve wracking as we went through it.

796
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 6: But I do feel like this is as complete a

797
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 6: group as we've had going into the spring. It'll change.

798
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 6: Somebody's gonna be better than we think, and somebody's gonna

799
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 6: be worse, and somebody's gonna be hurt. And I think

800
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 6: building depth over the course of the spring and the

801
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 6: early part of the season is really important, making sure

802
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 6: that we'll have our prospects ready to go. So if

803
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 6: we needed to contribute early like it was in twenty

804
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 6: three with with Bryce and Brian, where we thought they

805
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: were gonna spend most of their season a Double A

806
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: and May Bryce came to the big leagues and the

807
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 6: first week at June, Brian's here and it's like, oh

808
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 6: so much for all that depth we had, because now

809
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 6: it's in the big league, so we will need to

810
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 6: do more things. For now, we're really through with the team.

811
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: We're running out there on the first day spring.

812
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Training, all right, the Voice of Mariner GM Justin Holland

813
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: are kind of second in command, right behind Jerry who's

814
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: the President of Baseball Operations obviously, but in name, he's

815
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: the GM Justin Hollander right there, and interesting stuff. I mean,

816
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: this kind of admitting that this is it. This is

817
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: the team roster set right. I mean, if you're looking

818
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: for another big ticket edition, big trade, big acquisition, forget

819
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: about it, not gonna happen. I don't know if they've

820
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: really replaced what they got from Polanco a year ago,

821
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: which I never would have imagined saying that a year

822
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: ago at this time that they would not have been

823
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: able to replace Polonko.

824
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: They're doing kind of what they always doing.

825
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: They're kind of doing it by committee, right, you know,

826
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: going out and getting guys like Ref Snyder and Brendan

827
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: Donovan to go out there and maybe combine to give

828
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: them what Polonko gave them a year ago, because I

829
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: absolutely think it's fair to expect a step back season

830
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: production wise from cal Raley. I mean, no Catcher it

831
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: ever hit sixty home runs ever, to expect they got

832
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: to do it again is ludicrous, right, But I think

833
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: Julio Rodrige is going to be an MVP candidate. Honestly,

834
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: I agree with the garage said about an hour ago

835
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: man on the radio show, or a half hour ago,

836
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: that you might want to put a couple of coins

837
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: down on forty four to win the MVP. I got

838
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: a funny feeling this is going to be his year.

839
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: But I also felt that a year ago. By the way,

840
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: just for filled disclosure, we're going to break. We're kind

841
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: of react to that.

842
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: More to come.

843
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: Doug Baldwin six pm hour as well on ninety three

844
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Speaker 2: three KJRFM.

845
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847
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848
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849
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850
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Speaker 2: All right, we're back on a busy Friday night, Safty

851
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Jackson with you until seven o'clock and to hear from

852
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: Doug Baldwin conversation we had with him and Huey earlier

853
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: today on the radio show.

854
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: You missed it.

855
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: I thought he was sensational, man, I mean really the

856
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: part about just for those a little preview, okay, for

857
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: those that missed it, he talked about how the win

858
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: over the Patriots actually helped him heal and get over

859
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: the loss in Super Bowl forty nine. Now, I will

860
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: tell you this that during the conversation, we could have

861
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: kept the guy on for two hours, Okay, And we're

862
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: gonna get to some Hollander reaction here in a minute.

863
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: We just heard Checking Bucks conversation with Justin Hollander last

864
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: segment from Peoria, so naturally he will respond to that

865
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: in a minute. But we could have gone four hours

866
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: with him. And I wanted to ask Doug, by the way,

867
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: if he was the only one that he thinks among

868
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: his teammates really kind of felt that healing process for

869
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: forty nine begin after the Seahawks beat the Patriots in

870
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: Santa Clara, Like, were there other teammates too? Out there

871
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: that needed that game to help themselves kind of start

872
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: to get over that game. And so I texted him

873
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: off the ear because we couldn't get to this on

874
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: the air, and I said, do you feel like there

875
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: were other teammates that also needed that win a couple

876
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: of weeks ago to help them get over what happened

877
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: eleven years ago? Who were the guys that you thought

878
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 2: were the most broken up about it and are still

879
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: bothered by it today? He said, a lot of guys

880
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: felt leaf after the game. So, guys, he's actually talking

881
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: to his teammates that were on that team eleven years ago.

882
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: But he said Ricardo had a tough time meeting Ricardo Lockett, okay,

883
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: because the ball was going to him obviously on that

884
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: throw definitely created a healing opportunity.

885
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: So I'm glad to hear that.

886
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: Man's that's cool that you know what, Like, we're all

887
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: fans of this football team, but for the players that

888
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: were on that team in twenty fourteen to actually feel

889
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: something after that win two weeks ago.

890
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

891
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 7: I think that one of the marks of that era

892
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 7: of football, the thirteen fourteen those guys who were part

893
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 7: of that team they're very, very emotional in a good

894
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 7: way and very introspective. And you hear that with Doug,

895
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 7: and they understand emotions. And I think that it makes

896
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 7: sense that a lot of them have to, you know,

897
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 7: have taken a decade to process what is one of

898
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 7: probably the most heartbreaking moment you can possibly get in

899
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 7: all of sports. And for them to get that and

900
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 7: that healing, especially Ricardo, Oh my god, unbelievable. Mass It's

901
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 7: just it's awesome to hear that they found that healing.

902
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.

903
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean he mentioned us and I don't know if

904
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: this is in the replay or not. You can tell

905
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: us or we can just wait to hear it at

906
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: six twenty, probably that he wanted to or Doug said

907
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: that he hadn't seen the play.

908
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: He hadn't watched the play eleven years. He hadn't seen

909
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: the play.

910
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: I mean just just by waking up in the morning

911
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: and bumping into a television. At some point, you're going

912
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: to run into it, right, I mean, hell, the game

913
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: was on NBC for God's sakes, right, So he watched

914
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: that play, he said. A couple of weeks ago, there

915
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: was a text thread with him and some X teammates

916
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: for our teammates from that team in twenty fourteen, and

917
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: somebody had put it on there and he saw it

918
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: for the fame.

919
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: He had never watched it.

920
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Until two weeks or so, you know, ago week before

921
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: the game. So that was insane. So we're gonna hear

922
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: that coming up six twenty. But you know the Justin Hollander. Look, man,

923
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: this is going to be all about starting pitching. I

924
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: think for these guys, you go back to last year,

925
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: think about all the games that Logan Gilbert and guys

926
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: like that missed and they still won ninety plus if

927
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: they have been healthy the entire year, could this have

928
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: been like a ninety eight ninety nine win baseball team.

929
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: You tell me how many games Logan Gilbert, George Kirby,

930
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo, Brian Wu guys like that pitch in. Are

931
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: they thirty two games a piece? Are they twenty five

932
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: games a piece? Tell me how many games they pitch in.

933
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 2: I'll tell you how many games this baseball team wins.

934
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: Because baseball's kind of stupid in a lot of ways.

935
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: It really is kind of dumb Jackson, because the regular

936
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: season is all about it's just a six month slog

937
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: to just jockeying for position to get a playoff spot

938
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: and then put yourself in the best position once you're

939
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: there to win and make the World Series, which means

940
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: home field advantage, which in the end doesn't mean a

941
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: lot in baseball. It really doesn't mean a lot in baseball. Right,

942
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: So the regular season I think is too long. That's

943
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: a conversation for a different day. But this whole thing,

944
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: I love what Justin Hollanders said is all going to

945
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: be about managing that rotation. You get one hundred and

946
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: fifty starts out of the Big five, and this could

947
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: be one hundred win baseball.

948
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 7: One of the things that I definitely picked up on

949
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: was he was towards the end there talking about how

950
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 7: he wakes up in the middle of the night and

951
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 7: he's scared about, oh my god, the pitcher's still if

952
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 7: they get injured.

953
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: Totally, that's ultimately what it comes down to.

954
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 7: You said at the end of last segment. We all

955
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 7: expect cal Rawly will regress, sure.

956
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: And other players will shut it up.

957
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 7: But the reality is is that the pitching staff should

958
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 7: I think you just law of averages be healthier than

959
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 7: the last year, right, And if they can get that

960
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 7: an offset cal's inevitable regression by the healthier pitching staff,

961
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 7: the starting pitching staff, then yeah, this team should absolutely

962
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 7: be right where they were last year.

963
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at just a quick kind of doing

964
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: some math here. Eighteen I'd say, fourteen thirty two. You're

965
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: talking about between Luis Castillo, Brian Wu, Logan Gilbert, George Kirby,

966
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller. Probably forty miss starts, thirty five forty miss

967
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: starts between those guys last year, and they actually were

968
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, Logan Evans is not terrible in

969
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: the games he appeared in. Obviously, they had a couple

970
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: other guys, remember the other Luis Castillo, Luis F. Castillo,

971
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: Emerson Hancock, and Logan Evans were seven and ten combined.

972
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's not a winning record. I'm sorry,

973
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: so sorry. They were ten and ten combined. The Mariners

974
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: were ten and ten combined. Or those two guys were

975
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: ten and ten combined in those thirty eight starts that

976
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: they appeared in. So that's not terrible, right, you can

977
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: tread water with those guys, But that's thirty five forty

978
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: games that you missed a year ago. Can you shut

979
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: that number down to fifteen twenty, maybe ten fifteen. If

980
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: they can do that, then there's absolutely a shot this

981
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: team is going to not just win this division, but

982
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: maybe then run away with it. And then you ask yourself, Okay,

983
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: have they done enough to give themselves a better shot

984
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: once the playoffs begins? I mean, you're talking about making

985
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: up eight outs. Really, in the end, that's what you're

986
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: talking about doing. Have they done enough to make up

987
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: the eight outs that kept them from the World Series

988
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: a year ago?

989
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna break