WEBVTT - Tri-State Chevy Dealers Bengals Postgame Show 11/23/2025 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:06.160 This is the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.160 live from Buffalo Wings and Rings presented by R and 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.240 L Carriers. Postgame sports Talk is brought to you in 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:17.840 part by Pellow Windows and Door making life brighter. Pella 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.279 Now pay Later Carrier and your local carrier dealers turn 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:27.000 to the experts. Carrier Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tove 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:32.560 Sheldon five one three five one three, toph Postman Law 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:37.840 Injured call eight four to four, Postman Others promise Postman 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:42.720 delivers R and L Carriers. 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This is Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:20.679 Bengals legend David Fulcher, and we're breaking down the Bengals 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.160 twenty six to twenty loss to the New England Patriots 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.520 like a wrecking ball. 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:27.600 Mike Mills is are on site. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.679 Engineer Joe Waddell is producing back on our Kenwood Studios. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:38.240 Wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, drink specials, wings and rings. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:38.839 Has it all. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.080 We're here in Milford until eight thirty tonight, and you're invited. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.039 If you can't be here in person, join us by 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:50.760 calling five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand and 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.600 David Folcher. The Bengals were twenty six yards away from 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.600 pulling off a miracle upset. Yes, but it was not 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:05.000 man to be, as Joe Flacco's fourth and ten pass 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:12.160 to Mike Cassecti fell incomplete, no flag against cornerback Marcus Jones, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.239 and the Bengals fall to three and eight with their 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.800 fourth straight loss and eighth loss in nine games, and 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.160 the New England Patriots improved to ten and two with 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.200 their ninth straight victory. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.160 It is brutal being a Bengals fan. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.040 Yeah, it's brutal being a former Bengal when you see 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.040 your football team played the way they play. But you know, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.040 sometimes you gotta, you've gotta, you gotta, you gotta suck 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.280 it up, man, You gotta. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:41.520 Suck it up. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.160 And you've gotta find a way to find the wins, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.000 and you gotta keep fighting. And that's where they are 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.160 right now. Evan McPherson money Mack, money. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.639 Mack kicks a franchise record sixty three yard field goal 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.280 on the final play of the first half. The New 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:08.440 England Patriots run ten plays, yes at gold to go situations, 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:15.840 do not score a touchdown. The Bengals defense, which is improving, yes, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.480 hold New England to nineteen points because there was a 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:25.800 pick six in there. Yes, so there are signs of improvement. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.760 But Rock, like you said when you walked in today, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.799 close don't count there. 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.840 It don't count in the National Football League. 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.040 No, it doesn't, man, And they are close. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.280 I mean you know a player two here, we get 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.000 a pick six on defense, they get a pick six 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.120 on defense, and we still lose a game and we 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.840 only give up nineteen points. Now, we already talked about 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.280 how this team gives up so many points. This time 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.960 the offense couldn't score enough to win the game. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:04:00.160 And without Jamar Chase, Yes, the Bengals offense had to 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.600 get creative. Okay, they got Mike Oseki back. They were 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:13.280 using all kinds of players, especially Chase Brown. Players started 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.520 dropping like flies with injuries on both sides. On both sides, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.479 And there was a point in this game in the 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.800 second half where the Bengals were down to two healthy 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:29.679 wide receivers by the name of Mitchell Tinsley and Charlie Jones. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.360 Yeah, they were not healthy enough at receiver because these 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.280 guys are getting hurt. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.560 But you said it. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.359 I think in the first six plays of the game 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.839 there were three guys a Bengal and two. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.080 Players from the other team that got hurt. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.880 And I'm thinking, we haven't even played three minutes in 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.640 a game and we've lost three players already. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:56.200 Yeah, Orrin Burks went down, Yes, but I believe he 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:56.760 came back. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:57.160 Okay. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:02.160 Marco Wilson, corner back for the Bengals, Yes, he's out 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:09.760 with a hamstring injury. They lost TODs Brooks running back 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.880 with a concussion. And then later in this game, oh. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:20.480 Te Higgins, Yeah, that was his head slammed against the turf. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:21.159 Was brutal. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.880 And he was taking off on the cart, not on 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.120 the back of the cart. He was riding alongside the driver. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.520 Yeah, he lock. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.520 He just looked a little dizzy, you know when you 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.640 get a concussion. Everything kind of blurry and just floating around. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.560 So when he got up off the ground, I know, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.680 I heard the paramedics upstairs holler that they need to 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.320 get a cart because I'm upstairs in the press box. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.880 So when I heard that, I'm going, man, he's not 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.560 getting up. But then that's aw him stand up. Everything's 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.320 would be good. So concussion, But because of the short week, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.640 he's probably not gonna play on Thursday. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.480 How are they going to field a team on Thursday night, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.120 Thanksgiving Night against the Baltimore Ravens at M and T 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:04.960 Bank Stadium. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.320 I don't know, man, I you know you you got 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.000 somebody in that depth chart or they gotta go to 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.000 the practice squad to bring somebody up. Man, because they're 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.680 gonna go in there and with a six shooter in 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.560 your hand and only got three bullets in it is 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:19.080 not enough. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:19.719 Not enough. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.479 I'm sorry, I have to stand up here for a minute. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.919 I'm just so fired up. He is one thing that 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:32.719 bothers me. And yes it's nitpicky, but body language means 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:37.440 a lot. Okay, And Zach Taylor standing on the sideline 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:42.480 with his arms folded, and on the other sideline, Mike frable, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.720 hands on knees, looking ahead. It looks like he. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:50.480 Wants to play. Yeah, come on, man, show some emotion. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.920 You know what's out there. It's what's funny. And I'm 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.520 not funny like ha ha funny. But what's what's ironic 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.440 is you know, Zach Zach Taylor. He's he's starting to, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.159 you know, be a little bit more vocal to the referees, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.599 trying to figure these things out. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.400 But something's got to happen. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.840 He needs to get a fifteen yard penalty because he's 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.760 pissed off at how they're treating his football team and 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.239 sometimes where the calls are going. But you know, nice 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.600 guys in the NFL don't finish, you know what I mean, Oh, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.800 you gotta be a bad guy as the Pittsburgh Steelis. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.080 Why do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers get what they get? 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.360 Because they're out there trying to knock people's head off, 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.160 trying to hurt people, and the NFL acts like they're. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:31.720 Scared of him. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.360 But when you just kind of sit back and be passive. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.960 I mean, I'm not saying that he's a. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.840 Passive coach, but when you're when you're one of those 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.360 guys that just goes okay, Okay, Well you know what, man, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:44.400 it's really not okay. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:49.480 I'm driving here to Milford. Love it here, Love Milford. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.080 I was just here yesterday. Yes, I'm firing some indoor 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.360 softball at a nearby facility. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.920 So I love it here. But I'm on my way. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.280 So I'm listening and I'm trying to take notes in 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.960 my car on the way down here from the Miamisburg 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.960 War Room. So when David Fulcher faux Rock walks in 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.840 and I know that he's at the game, he's in 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:12.680 the press box. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.000 Was Mike is sick? 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:20.440 He interfered with on the final offensive play by the 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.840 Cincinnati Bengals, no doubt, no. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.040 Doubt was passing inference. And I think they play before 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.880 that the receiver came across the middle. It might have 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.200 been Tensley. He was also interfered, you know. But they're 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:34.199 not going to make those calls to change the game 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.560 late in the game. If that game, if that was 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.920 a third quarter or second quarter drive coming down, maybe, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.400 but the officials do not want to be the catalysts 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.280 of changing the game or the outcome of the game. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.200 But those calls should have been made, and they weren't made, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.080 so in a sense, it wasn't passing inference, because if 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:57.319 it was, they would have called it. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:08:59.760 This is the place to. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.760 Five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand and you're 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.760 listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.360 presented by RNL carriers. 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This is the number to dial. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:00.080 Well. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.480 This is the place defense five one three, seven four nine, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:08.319 seven thousand and David, I've said all along that Joe 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:09.800 Flacco is the kind. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.679 Of guy grizzled forty year veteran who will. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:19.640 Look awful in stretches and then look awesome in stretches. Okay, 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.800 so he takes a sack that takes the Bengals out 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.160 of field goal range. He throws a pick six, which 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.120 was even Dan Horde and Dave Lapham could not believe. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.160 He double clutches and then throws it anyway, I mean 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.480 telegraphing that throw to Marcus Jones for an. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:41.480 Easy pick six. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:46.679 Okay, Then how about the first drive here in the 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.800 fourth quarter, Bengals have it third and one at their 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.920 own forty five yard line. Yeah, they decide to pass 0:10:54.000 --> 0:11:00.840 the ball short right to Chase Brown incomplete fourth and 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.160 one at the forty five. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.360 They line up. I'm thinking they're going for it. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:11.920 Penalty on Cincinnati jilay of game and they have to 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:17.960 punch and Ryan Rico punch sixty yards into the yad zound. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.080 Yeah, what is going on? You know? 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.120 I tell you, man, it's so hard to it's hard 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.240 to be a fan. It's hard to be a former 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.280 player because you just asked yourself some of the some 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.480 of the scenarios just doesn't make sense. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.880 If you were you gonna go for it on fourth 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:36.200 and one. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.520 What I hate about watching this offense, outside of them 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.600 throwing the football to Chase and Higgins and those guys, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.199 is when it's. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.360 Third and one, we're still in a shotgun. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.400 We got to run five yards just to get back 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.560 to the line of scrimmage. They did one thing today 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.000 that I thought was pretty good when it came down 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:01.880 to short yardage. Flackle had a quarterback and got four 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.760 yards on that quarterback sneak we need a third and one, 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.120 and he goes either third and one or fourth and one, 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.600 and he goes for it and he gets four yards. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.400 And I'm thinking, well, why don't you do that all 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.280 the time on third and short. I mean, I know, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.800 I know you don't want your quarterback getting hurt, but 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.640 I think you have a better chance of getting a 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.600 first down when it's third and one and your quarterback 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.280 is under center. When it's third and one and he's 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.720 six yards from the line of scrimmage and he hands 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.920 the ball off to Tase Brown five yards in the backfield. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.280 That's hard to do. And I saw that today and 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.679 I'm just as a as a fan. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.720 Again watching some of the things that the Bengals do 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.840 it's just very, very frustrating, and it's frustrating because I 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:45.760 know they're better than that. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.559 Amen to that rock. Let's go out to the phones. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.000 Jeff is in dry Ridge. He leads us off tonight, Jeff, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:55.880 are you there. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:57.560 Yes, sir, I am. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.000 How you doing, sir? 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.800 Correct? We're at the game today, and it's just it's 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.160 depressing when fer gets let out of the sales so 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.839 many times during the game, when you see something crazy happen. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.280 But I want to address David Foulcher first. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:14.800 You are. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:19.200 I've been watching the Bengals. You're my all time favorite, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:25.720 uh defensive backfield player. We we used to weave to 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.320 laugh a leave you some people. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.840 Well, I wish I wish they had somebody on the 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.840 team that could thump the people today, man, because we're 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:34.400 not thumping. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:35.560 Were so. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:42.920 Absolutely with it. But that said, Jick, do you live 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.320 in you live in Milford? 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.960 No, I live in Miamisburg. But I'm here a lot man. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.520 I ref and I umpire all over all over. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:56.959 Have you ever eaten the Mayti restaurant? 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:59.120 No, I haven't. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.480 Uh fabulous tiphoon, unbelievable, unbelievable. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.160 Jeff, Like you mentioned, Jeff I'm sitting next to the biggest, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.880 the baddest strong safety. When he played in the National 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:19.280 Football League, am he was a thumper, And I wish 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.400 we could clone David Fulcher. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.080 Yeah, I do too. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.760 I will tell you we did. I did clone one 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.600 my son, David Jr. But he's you know, he's thirty three. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.160 He's thirty three and he was a running back. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.720 So it's all good. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.720 I gotta say that they really need you need to 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:42.280 get rid of the Duke just kind of draft. If 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.800 he's part of it, every part of it should go. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.240 There's They're terrible drafting every year. I beat him that 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.360 draft right before they do every year, and every year 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.760 my draft is better than their. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.440 Just couldn't do that way. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.720 Jeff, Hey, we appreciate. They gotta move on. Let's go, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:09.800 tester shoh, thank you very much. John is in Mason, Hi, John, Okay? 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.440 How about Lee in Cincinnati? 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.440 Hey, gentlemen, y'all doing today? 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.200 We are good, sir? How are you? 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.080 I'm doing pretty good? 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:20.320 Man? 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.120 I gotta, I gotta. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.000 I'm calling with him a little. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:24.240 Bit, man. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:29.200 You know, I'm praying and I'm hoping that Mike Brown 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.240 is sitting back and actually reflecting on what he's seeing 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.480 from Zach Taylor, and I'm hoping that he's saying to hisself, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.160 this might be the year that I fired this man. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.560 And when I say that, I mean people tell me 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.880 all the time, be patient, give them time. What about 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.120 the super Bowl? Look, it's it's more so in today's 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.000 Lee what have you done for me lately? So with 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.280 that being the case, I'm really looking at Joe Brady 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.600 from the Bills. Man, I feel like we're gonna go out, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:57.320 We're gonna. 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.880 Get We're gonna make that ls LSU connection with Joe. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.760 Burrow, Jamar Chase and that Joe Brady. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.440 I'm just looking for Mike Brown. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.320 To take that jump and go ahead him, you. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:12.800 Know, tell Zach Taylor to kick Hey. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.000 I will tell you something, man, I know for a 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:20.440 fact watching this franchise for so many years that in 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:25.440 season firing doesn't happen, okay, And I know talking about 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.920 everybody was talking about maybe Zach or the defensive coordinator 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.360 doing the beat that they would go ahead and. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:31.960 Get out of here. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.320 But I don't even even watching the Bengals, firing coaches 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.160 is very very limited. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.000 But it does make sense. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.200 I mean, it does make sense, because I know Brady's 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.200 name came up a few times a couple of years 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.360 ago because he was with the boys in LSU and 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.000 he's out there. But I just I don't see it, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.280 and I don't know if Mike will do it, because 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.840 you look at this football team a couple of years 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.400 ago fighting for a chance to win the Super Bowl. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.480 They're not that far off from that. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.720 The problem is, though, is that when guys get hurt 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.520 and things start changing, and when you start changing coaches 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.879 and players, especially position coaches, things go different. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:14.399 The defense that we. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.800 Had a year ago was reportedly a bad defense because 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:23.159 it was lose problem. Lou takes an Indianapolis job and 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.280 he's got a top five defense. So is it the 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:30.879 coaching or is it players? Or is it scouting or 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.000 is it recruiting? Is it that guy? That guy might 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.119 be need to be different? 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.800 Yeah? I agree. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.080 Now, what do y'all feel like? 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.160 I heard what y'all talking about Joe Flacco and me personally, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.480 I feel like he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.320 I mean, it's entertainment at the end of the day. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:48.560 Foolish people. 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.680 I don't mean to call him foolish, but they whispering that. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.320 Joe Flacco just might be better than Joe Burrow. 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:54.880 You feel what I'm saying. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:56.800 So with that being the case, Joe Burrow is coming 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.800 off of that injury, Joe Flacco has to make it 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.840 little neat. You know, nobody wants to slot the transition 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.240 to where people second guessing the decision to bring Joe Burrow. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.160 You feel what I'm saying. So that's just my take 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.080 on that. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.840 Yeah, I would, I would say chick when you start 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.520 talking about Flacco coming in here. The Flaco coming to 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:25.320 the Bengals was not a decision on fresh legs, youth. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:31.359 Flaco came in here with experience, experience and controlling. Joe 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:36.960 Flacco's job is to keep the game under control. We 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.960 don't want Joe Flacco to go out there trying to 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.840 throw for five hundred yards and six touchdowns. We just 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.160 want him to manage the game. And he has been 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:44.920 managing the game. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:46.400 But when you try. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.399 And if you look at the defensive side of the 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.760 ball in the last not this last two games, but 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.560 the games before that, we had too many problems yet 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.439 a play game and then today's game should have been 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.800 winnable game because the defense can. 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.280 Be scores down. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:08.000 Yes, we just scored enough today to beat the team today. 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.920 We just scored enough a week ago to beat Pittsburgh. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.199 But that's that's offensively and that those things need to 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:15.240 get taken care of. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.800 And Lee, we've got to run. Appreciate the appreciation league over. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:19.600 Let's go. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.680 Let's go to Troy in Cincinnati. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.639 Hey, how you guys doing all right? 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:27.119 Droyd? 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:27.560 We're good? 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.840 Yeah, Yeah, it's just depressing, you know, as a fan 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.480 here every week you need to sit here and watch 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.639 the same old product on the field and just like 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.720 you know, it's either the offense scores enough. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.600 And the defense can't stop nobody. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.240 Or like the last two games, the defense is played 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.320 halfway defense. I just want to why they didn't play Burrow. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.239 I know it's a short week, but put him in 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:50.199 and he wants to play them. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:51.720 And the division is still up. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.600 For grabs, and that's the bad thing about it. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.679 Like the division ain't that strong this year. And you know, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:57.679 Baltimore one. 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.240 Today, so now it's like they're six and five for 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:01.679 six and five, the Bengals were. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.240 Won today, they could have been four and seven, So 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:04.840 it's just frustrating that. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.520 You know, like of all years and all. 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.280 The players that they had contract issues with, Henderson, Higgins 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.600 and Chase, none of them play today or even Burrow. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:16.400 So you got four players. 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.160 Or four half played players and they weren't on the field. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.960 They're due to injured so and Chase what he did. 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.240 So just wondering why they should just win, haying with 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.000 Burrow and go out, go out in for it, even 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.520 if it's on the show. Week of Burrow said he 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.800 was ready to play. I'll let you guys talk about that. 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:31.760 Hey, I was a little I was a little shocked 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.320 that Joe didn't play, you know. And once again people go, hey, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.359 if the team is not going to the playoffs or 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.920 they're in a bad shape, but Joe Burrow is still 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:40.280 part of. 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:41.040 This football team. 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.359 If a lionan gets hurt, if a running back gets hurt, 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.000 you know when he comes back, he's coming back no 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.879 matter what, no matter us being three and seven or 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.720 seven and three. So the same with Joe Burrow because 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:54.879 he is part of this franchise. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.439 He is part of the football team and no. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.920 Matter what happens, win or lose, to have your best 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.040 players on the field, going after and I don't know 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.720 why Joe Burrow didn't play. I know it's a short week, 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.800 but you know what, Joe should have played today and 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.719 Joe Betta play on Thanksgiving. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.560 And with that we've got to run. It's the top 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.400 of the hour break. Appreciate all the calls. 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They they've never really played a 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:43.960 complete football game. Million offense, defense, special teams. It's been 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.200 one one one of those three phases has been much 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:52.560 higher than the other two. And today was a perfect 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.640 day because I'm telling you, I I at the beginning 0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:00.240 of that game, and I'm watching this quarterback for the 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:04.360 New England Patriots, Trake May, and all of his statistics 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:09.399 and all these conversations about is he in the MVP conversation? 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.080 And I didn't see that today. I didn't see this 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:14.960 guy who was so spectacular today. 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.520 And I'm thinking, you know what, man, we got a chance. 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.879 We've got a chance if our offense just scored the 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.560 points to do what they've been doing. We got a 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.280 chance because they looked like the defense had them where 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.960 they wanted them. And then all of a sudden, the 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.840 one flew over the cuckoo's nest, let the bird. 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:34.720 Out, and the bird took off. 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.560 That's right, twenty six to twenty final Bengals were up 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:46.280 ten to nothing. They get outscored twenty six to ten. Unbelievable. 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.240 Let's go out to the phones. Tiffany, are you there? 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:52.800 Yeah, I'm here. 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.440 Hello, Tiffany, welcome the seven hundred wl. 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:02.120 W thank you on our way back home from watching 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:07.000 that horrible loss. Then season ticket holders for a while. 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.080 My question is, and this kind of follows up to 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.760 what was previously talked about, at what point I know 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.159 you want your star players out there you want to 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.320 see Joe Burrow back, and we were hoping that we 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.760 were going to see that today, which of course didn't happen. 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.320 But now that we've got that loss, and it just 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.639 seems like that season is coming more and more to 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.120 where we're not going to come back from it. I mean, 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.800 you basically have to have a perfect record from this 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:39.120 point forward. At what point do you not play Joe Burrow, 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.920 Jamaar T. I know those are going to be hard 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.639 conversations because all those guys are so competitive, and you 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.160 know you want to see them out there, You want 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.600 to see them when at all costs. But at what 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:54.200 point do you say let's not because of the injuries? 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.119 I mean, like what happened with T today? Well, I 0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:01.320 mean just your thoughts on that when because if you lose, 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.600 you get higher draft picks and you want to have 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.080 a better season next year. So at what point do 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:10.800 you say let's not and just kind of see what 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.119 we can get going for next season? 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:18.320 At this point, well, as a player, if I'm out 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.960 there playing and busting my butt weekend and week out, 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.239 win or lose, and right now we're losing, and then 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.840 I've got the franchise quarterback who is coming off of 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.080 injury and he looks like he's good enough to play. 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:31.760 He should be out there balling with me. 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.399 Whether we win or lose, he should still be out 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:38.080 there balloing. And I know sometimes people go, well, you know, 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:39.520 there's no reason for him to play. 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.560 Well, there is a reason. There's like four million dollars 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.879 a game reason that he should be playing. 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:46.080 Fifty million reasons. 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:47.320 Yeah, fifty million reasons. 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.439 So yes, Joe Burrow, if he's able to play, he 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.920 should play. I thought Joe was going to play because 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.600 I think during the week he took all of the 0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:00.159 number one snaps because Flacco's shoulder was bothering. And that 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.359 told me one thing that this guy is ready to 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.120 go and he wants to play. 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:05.760 People say short week. 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.040 It doesn't matter to me if we had to play 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.000 a game tomorrow and the rest of those guys are 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.359 out there playing tomorrow, So why can't Joe Burrow do it? 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.920 So I would say Joe Burrow should play. If he's 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.560 available to play, he should play, and he should play 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.280 for the rest of the year as long as he 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:23.080 is able to play. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.560 Tiffany, we appreciate the call. Yes, thank you very much. 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.400 Let's move on. Rick, are you with us? Rick? 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:33.480 Hello? 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:34.480 Hey? 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:34.720 Rick? 0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:35.119 Are you? 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.640 Oh? How ya? I'm doing? Jentlemen, I'm up saying about that. 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.040 You see, you see how you see to have had it. 0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:47.320 They gave over the bye yesterday, you know against l J. 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:52.160 Mark say, monster, an absolute monster, rushing for two hundred 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:53.360 and twenty two yards? 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:54.480 Are you kidding me? 0:28:55.040 --> 0:29:03.120 And Bear from Blackbyer was awesome too, they they they 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.400 hogged the ball for forty minutes in that game. 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:07.760 B Yu was awesome. 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.320 But when that quab when the quarterback got hurt, and 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:16.640 uh and I guess Sube Suebrie and you see is 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.120 alive and well, because they could have just run over 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.560 that team without that, I mean they lost their their quarterback. 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:25.880 And see what all they had to do was just 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.320 stop the run. You know, all they had to do 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.320 was just you know, Russia, Russia, Russia Russell and uh. 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.680 They could have flipped that score. I said that they 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.400 just handed the game with the bay was like they 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.120 fell sorry for him, you know, yeah, the quarterback we 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:42.320 feel sorry for. 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:43.720 You know, that's what it looked like. 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.400 You know, special teams murdered U see last night? 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.600 I know I know. Hey, hey I know you have 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.200 three three field goals. 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.240 This you're right, you know, right, right, right. 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.920 But but besides that, uh, that b why you lost 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.280 the quarterback. I mean they put themselves on the silver platter, 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.320 you see. I mean that was a gift that gave 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.040 would should have been a gift they had no quarterback. 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.480 Rick, Rick, you called w l W last night, which 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.800 I appreciate, and you said, if Evan Pryor plays in 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.959 this game, you see wins. 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:21.800 Okay. 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.640 I love Evan Pryor, former Buckeye, now a bear Cat. 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.280 I love him. He was awesome. 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:32.600 But you see, did not sustain any momentum. They only 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.280 had the ball for twenty minutes in that thing. Yes, 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.760 they came back at the end, but then Pyu scored 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.160 again late, so we got to move on here we're 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.760 talking Bengals football. We appreciate the call. 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.280 George, Are you there? 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:50.080 Yes, I'm here. 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.400 How you doing taking advance of my call? 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:52.800 All right? 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:54.160 That? 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:59.160 Uh, first time caller that I think the Bengals had 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.240 a key game because you showed without the key players 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.880 for he came. The Bengals lost that game in the 0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.840 first half when the coach did not kick that field goal. 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.880 That field goal would have left him with three points 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.160 and they came back. They would have in the last 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.840 twenty six second of the game, they could have won. 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.760 But that's my take on it, and I'd like to 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.040 hear you what y'all think about that. 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:19.440 Thanks. 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.680 Oh yeah, that was critical, Yes, that did. You took 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.480 a sack. I know it took him. They were there 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.720 would have been a fifty two yard field goal, fifty 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.640 two or fifty three. You were with the thirty five 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.000 yard line and you take what a twelve yard sack 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:34.360 and it kills you. 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.920 And you know what, we also coaches always tell your. 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:41.360 Quarter back, man, you got. 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.120 Right overdid this game? 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.440 I think he got He got to goggles thinking that 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.240 that score, that touchdown to win that game out instead 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.000 of playing statistic in the football game, don't go that 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.000 far down, take the three and you had a whole 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:56.280 second and a half to come back. 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:57.120 They'd have got there. 0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.640 They'd have been three points down because he got one 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:00.880 of the beast kickings in the league. 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:05.280 And don't beat well and so does uh talking about 0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:10.640 great kickers, New England's got one too, andres Bori Dallas 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.960 four for four man he busts a fifty two yarder man, 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.640 he misses that the Bengals are in prime position yet 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.920 two either kick the game time field goal or win 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:23.520 that game. 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.720 That they would be they would have did that. I 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:28.280 think you. 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.640 Should have just did three points that that I had 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.360 come back and they would have been down. 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:33.880 And so they. 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:37.479 Alright, that's my FA. 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:38.520 Appreciate the call. 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.880 All right, George, I appreciate the call. Uh. Do we 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:49.400 have Andre in Cincinnati? Is Andre there? 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:50.640 Yes? 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:52.040 I am, Hey Andre? 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.880 How you doing? Man? 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:55.040 Hey, I'm doing all right. 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.080 How you gentlemen doing? 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:57.400 We are doing good? 0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:58.800 Exceptionally? 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.680 What I just I just got one thing to say. 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.200 You know, Joe ain't playing. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.360 Let's let's just go ahead and trade him. With what 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.440 we got invested into him. 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.280 We can show up a defense and offense and we 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:19.880 can get a mediocre quarterback. Uh, pick one, Kirk Cousins, 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.560 any one of them that will come in. 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:27.120 No, No, and no, we need a franchise quarterback. 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:32.920 The Bengals have one. They've got to improve all aspects 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.720 of this, of this offense and defense. 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.280 Yeah, you know, and if you trade Joe, you can 0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:40.720 do that. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.920 No, ask the Cleveland Browns, why would you Why would 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.640 you trade your franchise quarterback. 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.480 I mean you're trading because you trying to win. 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.360 I mean, if you trade Joe and you got and 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:57.680 you can show up your offense and your defense, and 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.520 you can go and get a Kirk Cousins, one of 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.520 them type of quarterbacks like him. 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:07.360 You do, Hey, look look at this. 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.439 You score eighty points in two games and lost both 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:12.880 of them. 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.400 Well, you don't want to get rid of your eighty points. 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.160 You just need to improve your defense. 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.600 Don't want to get rid of your eighty points. 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.040 But if you get rid of Joe, now your eighty 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.759 points become twenty, and then you're still giving up. 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.920 You might be giving up sixty on defense. 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.959 But if you get rid of Joe and you sure 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.720 up your defense, you might not be giving up but three. 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:38.239 So my question is, so to have Joe Burrow and 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:43.040 the offense that we have, So is it Joe Burrow 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.080 getting rid of him to show up your defense? Is 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.760 it your scouting department that don't know what they're doing 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:49.160 to make that defense? 0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.680 You go, the scouting department don't know what they're doing. 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.920 Okay, so let's get rid of the Let's get rid 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.719 of the guy that's running the scouting department and see 0:34:58.719 --> 0:34:59.480 what happens there. 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.080 You don't want to get rid of Joe Burrow and 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:02.960 and I've. 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.000 Got a lot to keep Joe. 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.080 But I'm just saying to shure up your defense and 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:09.200 your offense. 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:10.840 You can you can do. 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:12.880 You can do Jeff as good. 0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.480 I mean, Joel is a great quarterback. I'm not taking 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.080 that away from him. But if you can trade Joe 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.239 to like the Jeff, the Jeff got a. 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.360 One hundred and five first round pieck. 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:30.000 Andre appreciate it. Call, appreciate call. We gotta move on. 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.719 We are live at Wings and Rings fifty eight oh 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.160 nine Smiser Road here in Milford, and you're listening to 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.879 the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk presented by 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:45.280 RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW with your co hosts. 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.560 He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig seven hundrey w 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:57.200 l W listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame 0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:01.480 Sports Talk presented by RNL. Terry were live at Wings 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:07.000 and Rings in Milford. Chick Ludwig alongside David Foulcher and Rock. 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.880 Let's check out the delivery of the game brought to 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.279 you by RNL Carriers. Visit RLC dot com and make 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:20.360 RNL Carriers your global transportation provider. 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.239 And it's gotta be. With four forty to go in 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.160 this game, Joe. 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:32.400 Flacco throws a seventeen yard pass to Mitchell Tinsley, bringing 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.760 the Bengals within twenty three to twenty. 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.840 Yes, with four forty to go, and we're automatically. 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.600 Thinking, if they can get the ball back, maybe tye 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.960 or win this game. Yep, they came within twenty six 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.480 yards of pulling off a miracle that didn't happen. 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:52.200 They had a shot man. 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.560 This was a when tod game started, I didn't think 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.840 that the Bengals had a chance to beat New England 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.600 because New England come in here playing some pretty good football. 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.279 But we had a shot. We had a shot man. 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:05.120 That's all you asked. 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.160 As a player, all you want to ask is give 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.239 me a chance, give us a shot, and they have one. 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.960 Hey, let's go out to the phone. Said welcome in, 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.359 Kurt and Mason, Kurt, are you. 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:22.359 There, Yes, sir mister Ludwick, mister Fulter, thanks for the opportunity. 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.840 I answer a question for me. If the head coach 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:32.000 is calling the plays, what does the offensive coordinat or 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.799 do I'm just so frustrated. I saw two or three 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:40.200 plays a day where we were third and one and 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:44.040 we predictably passed. I don't understand why we're passing on 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:45.960 third and one. Help me understand that. 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.479 Wow, I say the same thing man, third and one. 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.640 I saw one play where we were third and one, 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.120 fourth and one, wherever it was, and Joe Flacco got 0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.719 on the center and they pushed the pile for three yards. 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.080 And I'm staying on myself. I know third and one. 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.480 If you were in a position where you have to 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:08.280 go four down territory, I could see them doing something 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.160 on third and one and trying to get five or 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.600 six yards, and then you come back on fourth down 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.000 and you run the ball forward to get the first down. 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.560 I don't know you said it right, man. 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.919 Play calling, it's almost like, you know, I almost want 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.800 to call it, like being a bully. I'm the head coach, 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:27.680 so I can call plays. I can do what I 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.719 want to do. And I got an offensive coordinator there, 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.880 and I think that's what happened with Callahan. When Callahan 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.720 was here, He's the offensive coordinator, and all of a sudden, 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.080 that job came available in Tennessee, so he took the 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.640 job in Tennessee. But I don't think head coaches should 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.960 be calling plays. That's why if you got an offensive 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.680 coordinator on your staff, his job is to coordinate the offense. 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:51.640 The head coach job is. 0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:56.359 To get the football team ready to play on game 0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:01.000 day during the week. But the offensive coordinator, tod fensive coordinator, 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.880 that's their job to get their teams ready to play 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:05.480 on Sunday. 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.000 The question was about a third passing on third and one. 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:09.800 Yes, okay? 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:15.680 To me, I translated that by this, we're going forward 0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.200 on fourth down. If we don't get it on third down, 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.880 that's why we're gonna pass, So we're gonna run the 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.560 ball and get that one yard. 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:24.520 Okay. 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.360 So with thirteen ten left in this game, it's third 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:34.359 and one, they pass incomplete to Chase Brown, so I'm thinking, okay, 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.600 they're gonna go forward on fourth They line up and 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.120 then have a delay up day. 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.560 How in the world does that happen? 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.040 I think that's coming because I can sit there and 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.000 you can watch Flacco. 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:48.959 He's getting to play. Call in too late. 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:51.720 But I don't even know if the Bengals were gonna 0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.400 go forward on fourth down where they trying to get 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.960 the team to jump off side, where they trying to 0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:57.319 get New. 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:58.400 England and jump off side. 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.920 But when you're going third, when it's fourth down and 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:04.000 one and you're lining up to go fourth down Ford 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:07.160 on fourth down and one and you have a delayed game, Well, 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:08.480 what was your reason for doing that? 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:09.120 No? 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:09.799 You shet it. 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.600 I mean, at least at least make them jump off 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.040 side or give them some hut hut or do something crazy. 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.120 But you get up there and you got a delay 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:16.399 a game. 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.399 Now you have to punt on fourth and sixth unbelievable, 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:20.640 just unbelievable. 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:25.480 Well on on fourth, on third and one, it doesn't 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.080 matter who the quarterback is going to be. It's it's 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:33.840 all a coaching call right there. So you know, it's 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.480 just sad to me that we I mean, if you 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.160 got third and one, if you don't make it on 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.120 the first one, then you got a better chance of 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.920 getting it on fourth, you know. I then you're putting 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.520 if you go pass and and probabilities lower of making 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.680 that it's just fourth and one, then you're putting all 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.920 your marbles there. I just it's it's a coaching problem. 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.240 I don't think that it's a it's a quarterback problem. 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.479 Kurt, and we got a run. We appreciate the call 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.840 to me. How about the novelty of calling two plays? 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.120 If we don't get it on third down, we're running 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.680 it quickly on fourth down, so we don't have a 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:10.440 delay of game. 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.960 Get up there really quick, four down and go. 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:14.759 That's right, it's exactly right. 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:19.000 Uh, let's stick with the phones here. Bronni in Greenville? 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:19.600 Are you there? 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.759 Yes, I am all right, home of. 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.480 Made Right Sandwiches. 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.560 Yeah, that's Greenville, Ohio. 0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:32.919 How you guys doing. 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.360 We are well, besides getting our butts kicked again today, 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:38.440 we're doing Okay. 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:39.960 Were it up tonight? We're breathing. 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:40.800 We're breathing. 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.960 Oh well, I was. 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.359 I was just playing golf today. 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.440 Listen. 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.200 There's golf to be played, in tennis to be served, 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.440 according to the late Great Sam. 0:41:56.280 --> 0:42:02.480 Wish, and leaves to be raped. What Sunday afternoon. 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:08.560 My question is you, guys, what what point you fired 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:09.360 the coach? 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.480 What point do you decide to fire the coach? 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:21.480 Well, yes, as a as a Bengals fan, as a coach, 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:26.480 as a being around Mike Brown, I'm not sure. 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:33.840 I'm not sure that. I don't think it will happen. 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:36.799 I don't. 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.640 I don't think it would happen because I think Mike 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:42.239 Brown is not that kind of owner that would like 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.839 to fire people during the season. He's extremely patient. He's 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.799 a very patient man with because his. 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:54.560 Dad got knifed by Art Modell after the nineteen sixty 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.160 two seasons, so he is very. 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.040 Patient with coaches. 0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:03.800 However, Dave Schuler was gone on at midseason, Dave Schuan Okay, 0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:08.920 and Bruce Coslet resigned in nineteen ninety. 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:13.360 Nine season after getting a thirty seven to nothing whooping 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.080 yes in Baltimore. 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:21.000 Yeah, and didn't Bill Tiger Johnson get removed in favor 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.840 of Homer Rice in season. 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:25.640 So it has happened. 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.400 I'm telling you, I don't don't. I really don't know. 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.760 There's a lot of things that need to be moved 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.080 in and out of this franchise. I was talking off 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.840 the air about we don't have a general manager. 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.240 We need a general manager. 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:47.080 We need somebody to run the football operations, not let 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.480 the coach run the football operations. And when you get that, 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:52.840 you're gonna get wins, You're gonna get things happening. 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:54.360 We need more scouts. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.440 The only scouts that we have on the Bengals staff 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.440 are the coaches. I even request of being a scout 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.440 for the Bengals. I don't think I know. 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.320 I mean, I think I know a little bit about football. 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.359 I don't. I don't know anything about nothing else. 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.440 But I think I can go out and scout a 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.120 player and then come back and say, hey, this guy 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.840 has a very good motor. But when you have seven 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:24.680 coaches who are your scouts and your coaching staff, you're 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.840 you're you're You're asking those guys to do a whole lot, 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.480 and they too need sleep, And if they don't get 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.960 enough sleep, who knows what they're looking at? 0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.200 So when is enough enough? 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.080 Well, we're talking about the Cincinnati Bengals and Mike Brown. 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.759 I'm not sure. I'm not sure where that's gonna go. 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:47.480 Hey, appreciate the call. We gotta move on, Mike is Than. 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:49.680 I appreciate appreciation. 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.120 Mike is in lost saton to this. 0:44:54.239 --> 0:45:00.440 My bad full Rockefello Angelino. But it's not just your full. 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.240 All right, you're doing, my brother, what's happening? 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.719 What's happening? Arizona State University? 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:08.279 There we go four time, all Americas four time. 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.759 Not too many of the proud, proud, proud native son 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:14.719 of the City of Angels right there. 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.040 Oh yeah, City of Angels Man, Holly Wood. 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:18.799 That's it. 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.399 I'm down and uh, I'm living in Manhattan. Now get 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:27.080 nice down here. I'm very grateful, David. Uh, I got 0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.920 a Well, I'm down at the stadium on my TOEFI now, 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:34.080 well the band I'm with fourteen other disabled Vietnam vets 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.440 and they were kind enough to bring us down to 0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.200 the game tonight, and hopefully we'll have some good seats. 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.440 But even if we don't, we're grateful and they brought 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.120 us down. And this place is rocket Man, and there 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.960 ain't too many bucks. I don't. I don't. I haven't 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.040 won in the stadium yet. We're getting ready to. But 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.440 I don't see too many bucks Man, So that's okay 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:59.719 with me. Well, I don't need any books, but I 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.319 got a kick out and listening to Marvin on the 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.720 h This was one of the few times I didn't 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:08.080 listen to Dan and Dave. I listened to. 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.120 I wanted to hear Marvin. 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:13.120 I hadn't heard Marvin as an analyst on a football 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.000 game before, and boy. 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:15.479 Was he good. 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.240 And two specific points that he brought up, David Culture 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:24.640 or number one late in the game when the Bengals 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.320 had one time because this was notorious for Zach Killer 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:33.480 with these clock management crap. Yes he there was late 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.480 in the game, and Marvin even said, why is he 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.200 calling the time out? Just push push, push, get up 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:43.279 to the ball, call a play, don't burn your time out. 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.239 That pissed him off, excuse my language. And then the 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.160 other thing was exactly what you just said about the 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.440 dbs aren't turning their heads around. Now you could tell 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.520 Marvin was irritated, Dave. So your comments on those two 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:01.640 iss I brought up, sir plate. 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:07.640 Yeah, well, I mean I was always told that if 0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.160 you watch, if you're covering the receiver and I cover 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.839 tight ends and running backs out the backfield, you can 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.000 tell when the ball is coming because their eyes get 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.200 really big, they get really big and wide. So as 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.080 I'm running down the field, the guys just if he's 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.360 just running down the field just to be running, I 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.480 don't think that's happening. So when that when his eyes 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.759 are getting wide checked, that means something's happening, something's coming it. 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:34.959 He improves his speed and his speed gets a little 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:35.440 bit faster. 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:37.080 Yes, turn your head around. 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:38.680 My corners. 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:44.720 When I played Eric Thomas, Solomon Wilcox at safety, Louis 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:48.800 Billups rest rest in peace. Yes, I played with Lewis Breton. 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.400 I played with the Ray Horton. I played with some 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.560 guys that when that ball was in the air, they 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.279 knew it was coming. Yes, they turned their heads around, 0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.479 they found the foot ball, and then they make a play. 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:03.000 For some reason. 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:07.680 Today, I don't know if it's the NFL, but not 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.720 too many corners turn their heads. They just keep running 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.080 and pay attention to the receiver and then throw their hands. 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:15.919 Up and knock the ball down. 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.719 But ninety percent of the time it's a pass and 0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:20.960 inference call, and you can't win like that. 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:24.880 So, Dave, what you're telling me is that you're really 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:29.239 playing your position correctly. You're actually looking at this receiver's 0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:33.319 eyeballs and and you're paying that close of attention to 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.160 him right as opposed to the quarterback or anybody else. 0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:37.600 You're paying attention. 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.600 If I'm playing man and man on somebody, I'm paying 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.680 attention to that guy throughout the whole entire route. I 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.440 don't look back at the quarterback I don't look anywhere 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.680 else when I'm looking at him the whole time. And 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.400 when I'm watching him, he's going to tell me where 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:56.360 I should be and what should be happening when his 0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:00.880 i get big, And that proves coming out when his 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.640 eyes get big, man, and all of a sudden he 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.719 goes from a four to seven to a four to three. 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.239 That means I'm gonna put on my spe so I 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:08.919 can catch him. 0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.759 Hey, Mike, Kevin Greens, you have a great time. 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:15.040 Thanks at the ball game, and all the all the 0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.319 best to you, man, Thank you. 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:18.120 Hey. 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:21.960 We've got Mark and Jeff and Dick and Bryce and Jason. 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.320 Man, we're gonna get to every one of your calls. 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.400 Bengals fall today twenty six to twenty to fall to 0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:33.160 three and eight, and the New England Patriots improved to 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:37.160 ten and two with their ninth straight win. And we're 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.320 live at Wings and Rings in Milford, and you're listening 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.840 to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:57.319 by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW. Welcome back to 0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:01.280 the Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented 0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:02.799 by RNL Carriers. 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.200 He's David Folter, This is Chick Ludwig. 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:10.640 We're live and Wings and Rings fifty eighth nine Smizoor 0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.319 Road in Milford, and you're listening to the Tri State 0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:19.560 Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. I've 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.839 got my coffee, I've got my computer. All I need 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:26.280 is you at five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.319 Awesome to be with Faux Rock today and Rock Let's 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:32.920 highlight the drive of the game brought to you by 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:36.360 the BMW Store. They are over three hundred and fifty 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:40.360 BMW centers in the United States, but there's only one store, 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.640 the BMW Store where. 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.280 Passion Loves Company. 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:49.279 And once again, there was only one offensive touchdown by 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:55.080 our Cincinnati Bengals. Four plays, seventy one yards. It took 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.360 up one minute and fifteen seconds. It happened at the 0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.560 four to forty mark of the fourth order, Joe Flacco 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:03.759 to Mitchell Tinsley, pulling. 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:07.200 The Bengals within twenty three to twenty. It wasn't enough. 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.120 I'll tell you one thing, though, I thought. 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:14.879 I thought Tinsley would be more involved not having Chase 0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.200 in the game, so I thought that he would be 0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:21.160 a big target because the boy catches everything that's thrown 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:24.400 to him, you know, and for some reason there was 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.600 only a couple of passes thrown to him. But I'm 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.879 telling you, man, it's very frustrating because there's too much 0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.880 talent on this football team not to be with a 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:36.960 better record than what we got right now. 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:39.360 Totally agree, Totally agree. 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.560 Let's go out to the phone, said, welcome in, my buddy, 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:44.360 Bryce and Anderson. 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.320 Bryce, what do you think today. 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.240 The Bengals? Man, they just cannot get done today again, 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:56.520 and they will need to make some adjustments with really fast, 0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:58.759 especially with the short week ahead against a hot rave 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:00.120 And see when a five game win. 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.320 Street, no doubt, man, the Ravens. 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:07.759 They play three consecutive home games starting today with the 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.680 New York Jets, so they're in position to really seize 0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:16.279 control of this division. And like I said a couple 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:20.920 of weeks ago, the Bengals launch a new career. A 0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:24.320 star is born in Caleb Williams. 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:31.879 Yes, how many players to the Bengals cause to blossom? 0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:34.560 Okay? And Caleb Williams right now, man is. 0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:41.160 Playing hot and it all started in Cincinnati. Unbelievable. Didn't 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:41.520 we do that? 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.120 They're like the name Brett Favare yi ago, Yeah, I 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.120 remember being on that field nineteen ninety two. 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.520 I remember when the Bengals knocked out Don Mkowski. 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:56.000 Yep, Don Mkowski, and Don came the second year player 0:52:56.200 --> 0:53:02.480 from Southern Mississippi who got traded in the season from 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:03.680 the Atlanta Falcons. 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:03.960 Yep. 0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:08.920 And do you know that Mike Holmgren going into that 0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.319 game head coach of the Packers yeh and two. 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.040 Dave Schuler was two and oher. 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:20.520 And Mike Holmgren told us I didn't think I would 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:21.120 win a game. 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:23.799 They were zero to two. 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.920 Carl Pickens runs back a punch for a touchdown, the 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:29.560 Bengals knockout Don Mkowski. 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:31.719 I remember him. 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:33.200 I was on that field in. 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:34.479 The final minute of the game. 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:38.640 You knew who caught the winning touchdown pass from Brett 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.640 Farv kid Trick Taylor. 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.320 Yes, And the Green. 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:48.040 Bay Packers upset the Cincinnati Bengals, and then Farv goes 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.640 on to start like the next thousand games and then 0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.319 turn out to be the quarterback that he is a 0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.680 Hall of Famer based off of what we did for him. 0:53:55.719 --> 0:54:00.200 That's exactly right. He owes the Bengals. He does time, 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:05.640 big time anyway, Bryce, it's always good hearing from you, man, 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:06.160 how are you? 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:13.000 I'm great? And just the Bengals though, for defense was 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.440 just good at the start, keeping up with his Patriots 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:19.360 offense straight a NDP con tender, doing all these great things. 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.799 And he just throw the pick six the Gino still 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:25.360 he's been struggling tackling the guys recently, and you get that, 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.840 and it's just so much momentum. And then Joe Blacko 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.839 just throws an interception big six of his own. Yep, 0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.319 DeMarcus Jones in the past, never looks back. 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.600 And both were thirty three yard returns. Is that an 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:43.000 incredible And that's what number I wore, Number thirty three, 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:48.000 David Fulcher, Bryce, You're exactly Ryce. 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.719 They gotta make some changes, they gotta. 0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:55.719 Keep the defense has to keep improving, and then the 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.040 offense get your weapons back. 0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.360 You miss Jamar Chase today? 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:05.239 Yes, they big time, Yes they did. I think have 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.560 made a difference today. He could have made a difference today, Oh, 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:12.960 no doubt, because Flacco stood back there quite a few 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.840 times and didn't know who he was gonna throw it to. 0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.040 Nobody's getting wide open, nobody's getting open. And I know 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.560 number one is always open. Yes, that's what he told me. 0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.600 Well, Bryce, appreciate the call, Thank you very much. Do 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:29.600 we have Chason in Williamstown? 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:38.879 Okay? How about Mark and Florence our good buddy. Yeah, 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:39.480 how's it going? 0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:45.080 I gotta I gotta Dave Fultzer question, Yes, sir, Okay. 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.880 The way I see the Bengals run their offense, you 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:52.760 rarely see tight ends going across the middle of the field. 0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:58.160 As a dB, wouldn't that be easy to cover the 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.640 Bengals received when they go out on their routes. If 0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:03.600 you know you don't have to worry about the middle 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:04.960 of the field. 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.360 Well, if you're if you're playing man and man and 0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.080 we call some man and man's have a one high safety, 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.280 I mean he's in the middle of the field. Anybody 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.239 throws the ball down the middle of the field, he 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:20.000 can help either left or right. But for us, it 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:24.360 just seemed like there's there's always somebody Why do. 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:27.920 Yeah, I know this, I know this on I know 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.960 this on offense. A lot of they passing plays or 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:35.880 to the sideline. I hardly ever, sometimes you see the 0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.560 tight end down the middle of the field, but. 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:42.600 You don't see it A lot and I just always. 0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:43.000 Wondered about that. 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.440 Why why doesn't he use why doesn't. 0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:48.960 He use the tight ends more over the middle. 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:49.200 Of the field. 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.200 I think that would that would open up things. 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.880 I think I think other teams cover that they've covered 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.200 the middle of the field. Yeah, because when you look 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.000 at the Bengals covering the middle of the field, there's 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.000 nobody in the middle of the field. The linebackers are 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:05.680 six yards deep or they're twenty yards deep, and the 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:07.719 ball is thrown in front of them. So that's why 0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.320 you keep seeing all these wide these tight ends catching 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:13.640 balls in the middle of the field. For us, our 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:16.160 receivers and tight ends, when they go across the middle, 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:21.160 they're being covered because the linebackers are dropping, the safeties 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.280 are coming up and helping on the receivers that are 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:24.240 coming across the middle. 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:25.680 So your only. 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:29.400 Best bet you've got is the sideline, So they're throwing 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:32.400 the ball to the sideline. We just I don't understand 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.439 how everybody else can throw the ball in the middle 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.600 of the field against us, but we can't do that 0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:37.200 on them. 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.560 And Mark, with that, we've reached the top of the 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:44.080 seven o'clock hour break, really appreciate you man. Thank you, 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.800 but you are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:50.040 postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.240 He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig. 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.120 Hour and a half down, an hour and a half 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:59.120 to go. We are live at Wings and Rings and Milford. 0:57:59.160 --> 0:57:59.760 Come on out. 0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.760 We're here till eight thirty tonight. If you can't join us. 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:08.120 Five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand. 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Yeah, we're having a. 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:36.240 Blast tonight right here on seven hundred WLW Rock. What 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.400 is your message to the Bengals with a three and 1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:40.240 eight record? 1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:44.600 Where do they go from here? You can only go up, yes, 1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:46.120 and you know what, you gotta go to work. 1:00:46.720 --> 1:00:49.080 It's just like anything that you have every day to 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:50.040 somebody that's working. 1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:52.160 You have to go and do the job. 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:56.360 If what's said is what's said is there are six 1:00:56.440 --> 1:01:00.920 games left and they still remain three games out of 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:01.680 first place. 1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:04.560 You know, if they just if they went out, they 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:07.640 finished nine and eight, nine and eight could probably get 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:11.160 you a sniff to the playoffs. But you gotta you 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:14.280 gotta win, You gotta win, and you gotta do it now. 1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:16.280 You can't wait later. You gotta do it now. 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:20.320 And it doesn't get any easy, man, because Thanksgiving dinner, 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:22.840 we're gonna be sitting there watching them play to the 1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:25.880 Ravens and it's gonna be a tough one. 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:29.800 Just a reminder to fans out there that post game 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:32.920 Sports Talk is brought to you in part by AE 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:36.919 Door and Window Company. They sell the best and they 1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:40.240 service the rest. Let's go out to the phones. Is 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:42.400 Jeff there in Cincinnati? 1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:44.800 Yep, I'm here. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:46.160 How you get them done? 1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:47.000 All right? 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:52.400 Jeff Man, Hey, I'm I'm a Bengals fan for the 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:56.360 last thirty years. I remember saying David play and it's 1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:59.560 Don and talking to him and you both. And I'm 1:01:59.560 --> 1:02:02.000 on my way back and just out home now from 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:02.880 the Bengals game. 1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:04.480 Uh, believe it or not. 1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:09.080 As my first Bengals game, my daughter Doug bought me 1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:11.880 a ticket and we all win as about six or 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:15.160 seven of the Flint and uh, but I've always been 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:16.280 a Bengals fan all my. 1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:19.280 Life and it's honored. 1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:19.840 To talk to you guys. 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:23.440 I've you know, I've been disappointed. I thought this was 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:25.640 gonna be a great season, you know, and it's just 1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:28.800 like everybody else. And uh, I've seen a couple of 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.480 bad calls on the Bengals. You know, you could have 1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:37.680 got you know, uh call on a couple of passes 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:39.760 that you know, they were I mean, they were just 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:42.840 I mean their their receivers just got killed by a 1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:45.000 couple of times and didn't get the call. But at 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:48.560 the end of the game there but we stayed until 1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:51.680 the end, hoping, hoping for the best, you know, And. 1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:56.320 Uh, Jeff, how awesome was the goal line stand? 1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:58.840 That was just incredible. 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:03.120 I mean, we couldn't lave it. I think they stopped 1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:05.600 him eight times on that goal. I stand on that 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:09.000 end down there, and about eight times I think they 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:11.520 stopped them on the goal line stand. And I said, 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:16.000 my gud walcme work the defense man. You know, fifth year, what. 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.560 Are they been? Was that was phenomenal? David? 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:23.320 You probably yeah, is David sitting next to me here 1:03:23.520 --> 1:03:27.800 as you're watching them, are you thinking to yourself? You're 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:31.800 you're out there, You're out there, You're in that scrum. 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:35.440 I'm I'm thinking as a player, how do I get 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:36.680 the ball back to the offense? 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:38.840 How do we make plays? 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.840 How do we stop them to give our offense a 1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:44.120 chance to go down and make something happen on the 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:47.560 other end. And you know, the Bengals haven't done that 1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:51.080 enough this season, but today. 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.560 The defense showed up and did some things. 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:57.480 We just you know, I said it earlier in the show, 1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:01.040 it takes three phases of the game to be successful. 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:04.000 We got field goal kicking, we got plenty and everything 1:04:04.120 --> 1:04:08.520 was great. Offensively, we were kind of sputtering defense. We 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:11.480 sputtered a little bit, but we didn't have all three 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:15.320 of them on the same page. And if we would 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:17.200 have had all three of them on the same page, I. 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:20.840 Think New England was about to get upset. I thought 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:24.480 you got ten nothing nothing. 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:28.080 I thought we had them and the Mangans got the interception. 1:04:28.320 --> 1:04:29.200 The beginning the game. 1:04:29.680 --> 1:04:30.800 I think it's first quarter. 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:34.880 Oh my gosh, you haven't seen us. Uh you know, 1:04:35.160 --> 1:04:38.200 my daughter and my son and all my grandson, we 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:42.440 all we was all jumping up and down, screaming and I, 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:46.240 hey man, they got a chance ten nothing but you 1:04:47.000 --> 1:04:48.720 I enjoyed the game, and uh. 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:51.360 Uh that spurred. 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:53.400 Like I said, it was all my bucket left to 1:04:53.440 --> 1:04:56.040 go to the Bangles game. My daughters seen it, seen 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:59.960 it getting done that chair safety and appreciate. 1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:02.840 Man. I've been around, been around alone. 1:05:03.520 --> 1:05:05.840 Yes, sir, we go way back to protective We go 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:07.920 way back to nineteen sixty eight, don't we. 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:12.560 Oh yeah, man, I was born in sixty three. Actually yeah, 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:16.360 well i'll be sixty I'll be sixty three and anyway, 1:05:16.560 --> 1:05:17.800 so fantastic. 1:05:17.920 --> 1:05:20.920 Well, sixty eight and sixty nine they played the Bengals 1:05:20.920 --> 1:05:23.760 were born. They played two years at Nippert Stadium and 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:27.200 then on the River Front and now Paul Brown in 1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:28.480 pay Court Stadium. 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:31.320 So I appreciate the call. Thank you very much. 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:33.240 Thanks thanks for protecting my call. 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:34.400 I'm great to talk about that. 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:36.520 I didn't great talk to mister Paul Draft. I've got 1:05:36.560 --> 1:05:38.400 his autograph somewhere now there. 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:42.920 Yes, sir, outstanding, Hey, thank you? Do we have Anthony 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:45.600 and fort Wayne Anthony? 1:05:45.680 --> 1:05:47.640 Yes, yes, I'm here, I'm here. 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:51.880 Welcome, Welcome to seven doing w good good. 1:05:53.440 --> 1:05:57.000 I just want to say I've got two points to 1:05:57.080 --> 1:05:57.760 make birth. 1:05:58.320 --> 1:05:58.440 Uh. 1:05:58.800 --> 1:05:59.680 My family's had. 1:05:59.640 --> 1:06:03.480 Season I get since the early nineteen seventies and it's 1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:07.439 long four hour drive home, and you guys help help 1:06:07.520 --> 1:06:08.720 me get get me through that. 1:06:10.400 --> 1:06:11.960 And so today was. 1:06:11.960 --> 1:06:15.959 Really about the most lethargic and unenergetic the fan base 1:06:16.000 --> 1:06:18.640 has been because I've been coming to games, and it 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:21.720 just really goes to show the state of the franchise 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.040 and the state of the city. The team's really yearning 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:29.200 for a very successful team, and the fan base is 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:31.440 just crippled over and over again just waiting for the 1:06:31.440 --> 1:06:37.120 shoot to drop on these one score games. And I 1:06:37.160 --> 1:06:39.360 think whenever we see how many one score games have 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:42.000 been over the last couple of years. Is these how 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:45.040 close is it can be to win? You know, we 1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:47.960 just really comes down to coaching, and those are kind 1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:50.680 of the points I wanted to make. And thanks for 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:51.120 having me on. 1:06:53.840 --> 1:06:59.760 Hey, I appreciate the call. All it means all at me. 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:04.320 When you're close, you're not You're not there yet, And 1:07:05.560 --> 1:07:06.840 an inch is a mile. 1:07:07.360 --> 1:07:10.200 David Poulcher in the National Football League, Oh, no, doubt man, 1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:14.600 And people it's hard to explain. You just you have 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:16.920 to be there. Oh yeah, I mean and mean what 1:07:16.960 --> 1:07:19.240 I mean by be there, not in the stands watching it, 1:07:19.320 --> 1:07:21.920 But you have to be in the trenches. You have 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:24.320 to be on the sideline. You have to be at practice. 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:28.680 These guys practice their tails off. They're out there doing 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:31.040 the busting the butt. They're looking at a lot of film, 1:07:31.040 --> 1:07:33.960 doing a lot of running, doing lifting weights. And then 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:35.960 when you get out on the football field, you do 1:07:36.040 --> 1:07:39.240 that so you can release all the energy that you 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.320 had during out that week. And when you get out there, man, 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:44.560 and it doesn't go your way, you just feel like 1:07:44.640 --> 1:07:47.760 you're not worthy. You're not worthy. I mean, how in 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:50.360 the world do I miss tackles? How do I drop 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:53.000 a pass. How do I throw an interception? How do 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:55.200 I give up you know, a ten point lead or 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:59.520 a twenty point lead. It's just hard, man. I'm sitting 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:01.960 there watching the brown just beat the Raiders, and you know, 1:08:02.760 --> 1:08:04.680 the Raiders are not a good football team right now. 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:06.600 The Browns aren't a good but still you have to 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:09.280 go out and perform week in and week out. And 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:13.920 somehow something's missing with the Cincinnati Bengal team. They can't 1:08:13.960 --> 1:08:18.120 put all three phases together in one game to be successful. 1:08:18.600 --> 1:08:22.080 Moneymack kicking a sixty three yard field goal that probably 1:08:22.120 --> 1:08:24.840 should have went seventy three yards. He probably could have 1:08:24.840 --> 1:08:27.120 broke the record I think was ten yards up in 1:08:27.160 --> 1:08:29.880 the air. But yet he could come out there in 1:08:29.880 --> 1:08:31.960 another day. He could be next week and he's get 1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:34.280 a forty yard field goal and he misses it. So 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:38.080 nobody goes out there to deliberately lose a game. But 1:08:38.200 --> 1:08:43.960 it's a constant reminder every week that if you don't 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:47.360 show up, they're gonna get you. If you don't play well, 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:51.280 you're gonna lose. And today we played well for a 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:52.679 little bit, but not enough. 1:08:54.760 --> 1:09:01.080 At fans, there's only thirty two team that's it. Look 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:05.559 at all the teams playing Division one, two, three, NAI eight, 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:10.800 thousands of football players, and these are the chosen few. 1:09:11.400 --> 1:09:14.320 These are the elite of the elite. 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:15.759 That's what's so awesome. 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:18.680 You don't watch the best, yes, and you don't plan 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:23.519 in the NFL just because there's nothing behind it, just because. No, 1:09:23.920 --> 1:09:27.360 you play in the NFL because you're good. All of 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:31.280 them are good, not just a few of them. They're 1:09:31.280 --> 1:09:35.639 all good. In college. You've got some exceptional athletes in college, 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:38.040 and not all of them are just like the same. 1:09:38.520 --> 1:09:39.320 But when you come to. 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:43.519 The National Football League, it sometimes check everybody thinks, and 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:46.839 it means the NFL means the National Football League. 1:09:47.280 --> 1:09:47.840 It means a. 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:49.479 Lot like not for long. 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:51.040 Correct, don't do your job. 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:55.759 And that's why reaching free agency it takes four years. 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:59.080 There's a whole bunch of guys on three year deals. 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:02.320 Yes, it's not easy, man, I'm telling you, it's not easy. 1:10:02.320 --> 1:10:04.400 And people don't. People fail to realize. 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:07.280 Someone asked me a while ago about was it fun 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:11.040 playing the NFL. I said yes and no, and they said, well, 1:10:11.120 --> 1:10:13.800 are you serious It wasn't fun? I said no, it's 1:10:13.840 --> 1:10:17.040 a lot of hard work. If you practice all day 1:10:17.280 --> 1:10:17.920 and not all day. 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:18.439 I'm sorry. 1:10:18.640 --> 1:10:23.599 We've practiced for three hours every day and then those 1:10:23.640 --> 1:10:26.720 three hours, man, that is brutal. I have to hit 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:30.120 a running back like James Brooks or Ikey Woods. I 1:10:30.160 --> 1:10:33.840 have to try to blitz alignment like Anthony Munnos. He 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:35.680 won't let me touch Anthony. I mean, he won't let 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:36.320 me touch Boomer. 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:38.479 You know. I got to cover a Rodney Holman at 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:39.760 the tight end, you know. 1:10:39.880 --> 1:10:42.600 And when James Brooks come through the line of scrimmage, 1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:44.840 he don't come through the line of scrimmage just to 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:46.640 blow blow kisses at me. 1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:47.800 He's trying to run me over. 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:50.240 But I get that. You get that day in and 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:50.879 day out. 1:10:50.800 --> 1:10:54.559 Because on Sunday I get a chance to perform against 1:10:54.600 --> 1:10:56.920 another team and be the best that I could be 1:10:56.960 --> 1:10:57.919 against that team. 1:10:58.800 --> 1:11:01.479 Great stuff, David, He's David Fulcher. 1:11:01.520 --> 1:11:04.040 This is Chick Ludwig And just a reminder that postgame 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:07.800 sports talk is brought to you by M and P Logistics. 1:11:08.360 --> 1:11:11.920 From first down to final mile, M and P delivers 1:11:12.280 --> 1:11:15.799 you can depend on it. Let's take a quick break 1:11:16.280 --> 1:11:19.200 and we'll come back. We'll get to the bottom of 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:21.960 the hour. And you're listening to the tri State Chevy 1:11:21.960 --> 1:11:26.320 Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven 1:11:26.400 --> 1:11:27.720 hundred WLW. 1:11:33.000 --> 1:11:33.920 Welcome back to the. 1:11:33.920 --> 1:11:38.640 Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:43.519 He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig. We're talking Bengals football. 1:11:43.680 --> 1:11:46.920 They lose today twenty six to twenty two the New 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:49.280 England Patriots. Let's stick with the. 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:52.559 Phones here, We've got Mark and Milford. Mark, are you. 1:11:52.600 --> 1:11:54.519 There, Chick. 1:11:54.640 --> 1:11:56.519 I just want to remind the young kids in the 1:11:56.560 --> 1:12:00.720 audience that with three straight poor Pro Bowls, thirty one interceptions, 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:03.519 a sack, and a fourth bumble in the Super Bowl, 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:07.120 Folker didn't just fill a statu sheet. He treated it 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:11.080 like a Bengal fan treats a greater Sunday the high 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:12.840 I went back for seconds. 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:21.320 Yeah, like the Chicks treats a skylight Chilli five ways, Yeah, exactly. 1:12:21.760 --> 1:12:24.360 Yes, Hey, Polker, do you remember they used to call 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:27.240 it the swat team, But you know, really you were 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:30.559 doing crowd control on wide receivers is what. 1:12:30.520 --> 1:12:31.599 I saw going on there. 1:12:32.000 --> 1:12:33.400 But those were the days, you know what. 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:35.800 Thing around, guys. 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:37.679 We played a little bit of football back in the day. Man, 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:38.000 We did. 1:12:38.040 --> 1:12:39.639 We played a little bit of football and we made 1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:41.599 things happen the team. 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:44.759 You know, do you remember bouncing back from the EBB 1:12:45.040 --> 1:12:47.120 and coming back to the Super Bowl? Do you remember 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:52.599 why you bounced back? It was leadership, I think, Bilbert 1:12:53.080 --> 1:12:56.880 and uh the leadership and all. And here's what we've 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:59.120 got in this team. We do have Joe Burrow is 1:12:59.160 --> 1:13:01.320 a great turner round mindset of a leader. 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:02.720 He never gives up. 1:13:03.080 --> 1:13:05.800 And you know, even with all the odds against him 1:13:05.920 --> 1:13:09.439 not having all the tools, I have hope and you know, 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:11.479 Zach is a little bit of the beneficiary of a 1:13:11.520 --> 1:13:15.000 culture changing quarterback leg Joe. But when he comes back, 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:18.200 I really do think anything can happen. But it takes 1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:20.240 leadership and a turnaround mindset. 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:22.000 What do you think, David, Hey. 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:24.559 You're right on it man. In nineteen eighty seven we 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:25.400 had a strike year. 1:13:26.320 --> 1:13:28.880 We're all the scap SCAP players came in and played 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:32.000 and then we were still on that strike year. So 1:13:32.040 --> 1:13:34.040 we when we after the strike was all, we came 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.519 back and we wind up finishing like four and ten 1:13:36.560 --> 1:13:40.200 of forty eleven. But we had a team meeting, an 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:44.840 indoor closed meeting amongst the players. No coaches, and the 1:13:44.880 --> 1:13:47.679 first guy that got up and started talking was Anthony Muno, 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:51.040 and then it was Booma Sizing, and then it was 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:54.280 Tim Cumry, and then David Fulser, then it was Chris 1:13:54.320 --> 1:13:57.599 collins Worth, and all of us said one thing. 1:13:59.280 --> 1:14:02.480 If everybody do their job, we could be successful. 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:06.680 The following year, in nineteen eighty eight, we went to 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:11.320 the Super Bowl. Because I believe leadership, just like you said, 1:14:11.960 --> 1:14:19.120 leadership should come from upstairs, from the upstairs ownership down 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:23.599 to the head coach, to the assistant coaches, and then 1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:26.439 to the players. But I always put it on the 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:29.519 players because every time Dick Lebow asked me to do something, 1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:31.640 I had to do it. I couldn't blame it on 1:14:31.640 --> 1:14:34.439 the bowl when I missed the tackle, which I didn't 1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:36.879 miss too many of them, but it was my fault. 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:39.519 It wasn't nobody else's fault, but my fault. And I 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:41.800 had to look myself in the mirror. And this is 1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:44.160 what I would tell this football team if they were 1:14:44.200 --> 1:14:46.960 sitting right here in front of me. Look at yourself 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:49.640 in the mirror, and that's the guy you should be 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.519 mad at every time you do something wrong. If you 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:55.680 do your job, and then the other ten guys on 1:14:55.720 --> 1:14:58.520 that field do their job, we're going to be successful. 1:14:59.479 --> 1:15:02.680 And no matter how bad this season is going and 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:06.040 how bad it looks, you still have to do your job. 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:09.200 I heard Marvin Lewis one time say to the team 1:15:09.240 --> 1:15:12.040 in the locker room, do your damn job. 1:15:12.600 --> 1:15:15.360 If you do your damn job, we're gonna be okay. 1:15:16.000 --> 1:15:19.439 And I think sometimes people forget, and I think when 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:21.200 I'm watching some of these players, they're trying to do 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:25.680 too much instead of just doing their job. Because if 1:15:25.680 --> 1:15:28.599 you ask me to to take the force on a 1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:30.840 on a on a fullback that's coming on the pitch 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:34.000 a sweep to my side, I have to take out 1:15:34.040 --> 1:15:37.479 that fullback in order for my linebacker who's scraping the 1:15:37.520 --> 1:15:41.960 inside to make the play because I can't make the play. 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:43.920 But when I try to make the play, what I'm 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:46.920 doing is I'm taking myself out of the play and 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:49.360 the other guy out of the play. And you can't 1:15:49.400 --> 1:15:53.320 win like that. Mark, great stuff, great stuff, Martin. 1:15:53.160 --> 1:15:53.680 Appreciate it. 1:15:54.439 --> 1:15:56.680 And I'm gonna tell Zack to let David open up 1:15:56.720 --> 1:15:57.559 with the next game. 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:01.879 All right, guy, that show much do we have Jamie 1:16:02.000 --> 1:16:04.720 and Sharonville Jamie. 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:09.799 Yes, yes, welcome, welcome, Hey, thank your first time caller. 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:14.320 I just had a couple of questions, you know, watching 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:16.880 the game today. I don't know, is it just me, 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:19.839 but it looked like it looked at like New England 1:16:20.280 --> 1:16:22.800 didn't have that many better players that we had on 1:16:22.800 --> 1:16:25.400 our team. And I think a lot of it is 1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:28.160 it Zach Taylor play calling. I feel like we had 1:16:28.240 --> 1:16:30.920 better play calling to day on office, we would have 1:16:30.920 --> 1:16:31.599 won that game. 1:16:32.800 --> 1:16:34.600 Hey, I agree with you, man, because I'm telling you, 1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:37.280 at the beginning of that game, I knew that the 1:16:37.320 --> 1:16:39.600 quarterbacks of the Patriots, they've been talking about him in 1:16:39.640 --> 1:16:44.960 the MVP conversation. But the first two drives, I looked 1:16:44.960 --> 1:16:47.479 at them and I'm going, we could beat this team. 1:16:48.080 --> 1:16:51.639 They're not They're nothing, They're nothing special. But as you said, 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:55.320 it looked like that we were. You ever heard that 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:59.200 saying we were out coast or out out produced. I 1:16:59.320 --> 1:17:02.639 just feel like I feel like New England's play calling 1:17:03.320 --> 1:17:05.760 was a little bit better than our play calling. Their 1:17:05.840 --> 1:17:09.080 players was just as equal to ours, if not worse. 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:13.200 They were making plays. We weren't making plays. But then 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:16.320 when New England got there, you know, they got the 1:17:16.320 --> 1:17:17.559 they got everything in gear. 1:17:18.240 --> 1:17:20.559 Then all of a sudden, you start seeing glimpse of what. 1:17:20.439 --> 1:17:23.639 They what they were at nine and two, and I'm 1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:28.479 just thinking, we are three and seventeen, but we're playing 1:17:28.479 --> 1:17:30.519 against a nine to two team and we're out playing 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:33.840 that team, but yet we were not successful in play 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:35.800 calling or making plays. 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.559 You're right, man, right on, You're right on it. 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:42.880 Yeah, because I you know, I have one more question 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:45.320 I get off here. I talked to what my guy 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:48.439 worked because weet that hard Bengal fan, and uh, you know, 1:17:48.520 --> 1:17:51.840 people always saying, what's the Bengals culture, what's the what? 1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:52.639 Uh? 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:54.160 You know, what's the. 1:17:55.760 --> 1:17:56.519 Culture and stuff? 1:17:56.560 --> 1:18:01.400 So I was I wish that you Parlomon, will David Folter, 1:18:02.120 --> 1:18:05.160 and Willie as if y'all could go down there and 1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:08.800 get on the bengalscount department and they can bring these 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.120 players in here, because I know that would be a 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:14.639 joy to see y'all down there. I know y'all down 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:18.240 in that uh and that down there working for them. 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:20.800 You know that would be we'd probably get the players 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:22.200 in here we need in the draft. 1:18:24.479 --> 1:18:26.760 Thank you, j I appreciate it. 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:28.799 It would be awesome, And I don't know if this happens, 1:18:28.880 --> 1:18:33.160 David to bring in different alumni to address the team. 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:35.400 You know, the Bengals don't do that. 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:39.120 And as a player, I'm not sure that's the best 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:41.800 thing to do because you're going to bring in an 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:43.800 older guy to come back and tell me, hey, man, 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:46.439 you ain't playing right, or maybe you should do this. 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:48.080 You know, some guys don't want to hear that. 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:50.960 You know what they need to hear is they need 1:18:51.000 --> 1:18:53.519 a coaches telling them what you're doing is not good 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:55.800 enough and if you don't do your job, I'm gonna 1:18:55.800 --> 1:18:57.519 bring somebody else in and take it over for you. 1:18:57.840 --> 1:19:00.599 But these guys, they make so much money that it 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:03.479 doesn't phase them to hear that. So these guys are 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:04.880 gonna do what they want to do because they make 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:07.840 too much money. I mean, Zach Taylor on the fifty 1:19:07.840 --> 1:19:11.760 three man roster, Zach Taylor's probably payroll wise, he might 1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:14.760 be in the bottom three. So these guys make more 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:18.439 money than Zach. So how does Zach Taylor get these 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:19.320 guys to start. 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:20.000 Playing good football? 1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:24.800 You gotta want it, man, because it's in here, It's 1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:27.720 in the heart. You don't show up for a paycheck. 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:29.840 You show up for your teammates, you show up for 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:33.040 your city. You practice and you play for your city. 1:19:33.600 --> 1:19:35.840 You're gonna get paid no matter what. Why not get 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:38.599 maid Why not make that money worth this while by 1:19:38.600 --> 1:19:39.679 winning football games? 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:45.960 Amen to that. If that makes stuff, it sure does. Hey, 1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:49.439 we appreciate the call. Appreciate all the loyal listeners and 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:50.280 all the callers. 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:52.720 We've got one hour to go. 1:19:53.479 --> 1:19:55.559 One hour, man, that was one hour on. 1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:58.920 The Tri State Chevy Dealer's Post Game Sports Talk presented 1:19:58.960 --> 1:19:59.960 by RNL Carrier. 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:02.640 He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig. 1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:06.320 Five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand, one eight 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:10.639 hundred the Big One. Once again the Tri State Chevy 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:13.880 Dealer's Post Game Sports Talk live from Wings and Rings 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:15.160 and Milford on. 1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:16.800 Seven hundred WLW. 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:24.759 Welcome back to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:28.680 Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at Wings and 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:32.800 Rings in Milford, fifty eighth nine Smiser Road. 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:36.040 He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig and. 1:20:36.479 --> 1:20:40.840 We have an in restaurant guest, the one and Only 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:43.280 Touchdown Tommy from Milford. 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:46.240 Tommy, how are you? Man? Hey, I'm doing okay. After 1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:46.920 a game like. 1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:49.160 That, I mean a lot to talk about it you 1:20:49.479 --> 1:20:51.360 kind of let you. David and I were kind of 1:20:51.400 --> 1:20:53.320 talking offline and we kind of match up on a 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:55.280 lot of a lot of items. It's like, I want 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:58.360 to see a football team out there. It's like crash 1:20:58.560 --> 1:21:02.559 crash dummies, get after right man. Let's let's essentially who's 1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:04.400 gonna be the physical team. That's who's the come in, 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:06.880 not the finesse team. And so that's what I want 1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:08.320 to see. I saw a lot of energy from the 1:21:08.320 --> 1:21:10.880 defense today. They play with a lot of energy, and 1:21:10.960 --> 1:21:13.880 so they kept them in the game. You know, but uh, 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:16.519 you know, I I'd like Zach's a play calling to 1:21:16.520 --> 1:21:18.479 be kind of handled by somebody else, to be delay. 1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:20.320 Frank, third and one, you pass? 1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:24.200 Okay, that's fine, But that tells me you're gonna go 1:21:24.280 --> 1:21:27.679 forward on fourth down thirteen to ten left in this game? 1:21:27.760 --> 1:21:30.719 Are you kidding me? Fourth and one, they're out there, 1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:33.719 and a delay a game? Now you have to punt. 1:21:34.360 --> 1:21:35.360 How does that happen? 1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:38.960 Well, you don't have trust in your offensive line, I guess. 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:42.800 Because third and one, fourth the one should be automatic. 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:47.240 Absolutely, yes, and and and in the NFL, every team 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:50.040 should be able to get one yard. You should be 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:51.760 able to get one yard where there's third and one, 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.880 fourth and one, you should get one yard and somebody's 1:21:54.880 --> 1:21:58.800 gotta grab them kimonas and put push forward to get 1:21:58.800 --> 1:21:59.400 that first down. 1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:02.400 Now the bank were playing. They kept all three timeouts 1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:05.680 till late in the game. I'm there, like, get the 1:22:05.680 --> 1:22:10.080 first out, spike the ball right, see they did it 1:22:10.120 --> 1:22:11.840 like one time, I think spiking it. 1:22:11.920 --> 1:22:12.040 Well. 1:22:12.040 --> 1:22:14.320 The amazing thing is that that game came down to 1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:15.559 the you know all he had. 1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:17.320 To do a score in the last you know, the last 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:18.679 sixty seconds. 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:21.080 Yes, that game was tight all the way and a 1:22:21.200 --> 1:22:24.320 number of miscues that the Bengals made, in my opinion, 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:27.000 both on the field on the sideline, there were plenty 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:29.240 of chances that we could have done something there make 1:22:29.280 --> 1:22:31.080 a difference, Yes, but no, I think it was an 1:22:31.120 --> 1:22:34.400 out coach. They were well disciplined, meaning you know their 1:22:34.400 --> 1:22:36.960 team and we're kind of like trying to figure it out, 1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:39.200 and uh in a lot of it's rookies. I don't 1:22:39.240 --> 1:22:43.120 I don't dispute that, but I'm watching the videos to Gather. 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:47.240 Davis Gather had an interception today. You know the linebackers 1:22:47.240 --> 1:22:49.599 that played for the Indianapolis We got rid of him. 1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:51.840 I mean we're playing with two rookies, and I'm telling you, 1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:56.360 they ate Barnett up today, they ate Jax Hill Hill up. 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:59.080 They looked for both of them. They look eating them up. Man. 1:22:59.240 --> 1:23:01.639 And if you're a tie, and if you played against 1:23:01.640 --> 1:23:03.640 the Bengals for the last twenty years, you would have 1:23:03.680 --> 1:23:04.519 been in the Pro Bowl. 1:23:04.560 --> 1:23:08.680 Because we could not cover ten. We can't cover them, 1:23:08.720 --> 1:23:12.280 and we don't drop deep enough. Our linebackers don't drop 1:23:12.320 --> 1:23:14.960 deep enough. Our safeties are too deep, and the bas's 1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:16.160 been thrown right in front of us. 1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:18.400 And then we got guys coming up. Instead of running 1:23:18.439 --> 1:23:19.679 through the ball. 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:21.599 Carrier, we want to throw a shoulder and think we're 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:22.400 gonna knock them down. 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:25.639 That's pee wee football. You're absolutely right, NFL football. 1:23:25.680 --> 1:23:28.920 You have to I was told to put my face 1:23:29.000 --> 1:23:31.800 mask on his chest so that when I hit him, 1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:33.639 my face mask comes through his back. 1:23:34.800 --> 1:23:36.080 That's how I was told to play. 1:23:36.960 --> 1:23:38.960 I know that sounds kind of crazy, you know, no 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:41.559 visible nobody getting thrown up and then but I used 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:44.040 to take put it on your chest and knock him backwards. 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:46.040 These guys want to grab and push them down. 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:48.720 Well, Teqio Spikes told me he wants to see a 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:50.040 helmet roll with. 1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:53.839 The head in it. That's what he talked about football. 1:23:54.080 --> 1:23:58.960 But Barrett Carter sixteen combined tackles, eight solo, eight assists, 1:23:59.040 --> 1:24:05.439 Gino Stone thirteen tackles, seven assists, six solo, Dimitrius Knight 1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:10.120 with eight tackles, Joseph Osai was six, Dax Hill with four. 1:24:11.920 --> 1:24:15.040 So, I mean those are interesting stats. I mean what's interesting? 1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:17.280 Are you tackling as you're chasing the guy behind you 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:18.360 know he's getting behind you. 1:24:18.439 --> 1:24:20.760 I mean, I mean, how many tackles for lost? 1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:24.120 How many tackles on short I mean, nobody's and there 1:24:24.200 --> 1:24:24.960 was no pressure. 1:24:25.040 --> 1:24:26.559 I mean I get it. I mean we don't. 1:24:26.640 --> 1:24:29.840 Both of our are rushing guys are out right, so 1:24:30.280 --> 1:24:31.920 you can't put much pressure. 1:24:31.560 --> 1:24:33.080 On a quarterback hits. 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:35.800 You know, only three quarterback hits one sack that came 1:24:35.840 --> 1:24:39.519 from Jayalen Davis on that on that safety blist, right. 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:43.320 Yeah, I mean it's it's a tough situation. I mean, 1:24:43.479 --> 1:24:45.439 Reynolds is not in a great spot. I mean you 1:24:45.479 --> 1:24:47.559 look at who he has to ship out there. He 1:24:47.600 --> 1:24:50.120 can't play anybody different in the cornerback. He has no 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:52.840 depth there. Yeah, and there's no depth at safety either. 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:54.760 I mean, I thought Battle was gonna be a big 1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:58.000 player this year. But Battle is in the wrong position. 1:24:58.280 --> 1:25:00.840 He doesn't want to kind of kind of David to 1:25:00.880 --> 1:25:03.519 your point, he saw aggressive at the Lion's grimm. If 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:06.040 you have a thumper, there's no thumper. 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:07.000 On this tape, you know. 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:10.759 And because it sets the tone, it sets the tone 1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:11.559 on defense, you know. 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:12.720 And here's the thing to them. 1:25:12.720 --> 1:25:14.240 When I watched this football team, and I you know, 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.400 people can can pick it to what they want to do. 1:25:16.920 --> 1:25:17.120 You know. 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:19.320 When I played, I had a linebacker by the name 1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:22.960 of Joe Kelly from the University of Washington from South 1:25:23.000 --> 1:25:27.000 central Los Angeles with me, and Joe Kelly would pull 1:25:27.080 --> 1:25:30.680 your teeth out. I knew the guy in front of me, 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:36.800 Leo Barker, Joe Kelly, uh, Tim Crumride, Reggie Williams, all 1:25:36.800 --> 1:25:40.000 these guys up front, I knew them. Guys did not 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:43.080 want me to make tackles in the secondary. Man, why 1:25:43.479 --> 1:25:45.280 why are you making all the tackles. I mean, I 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:46.800 will come up to the line of Scrimma say hey, 1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:48.080 loo bo, can I get a little close to get 1:25:48.120 --> 1:25:49.479 in the box, and I want to I want to play. 1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:52.439 But them guys did not want me to make tackles. 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:55.120 And and when you watch this football team, it's like, 1:25:55.800 --> 1:25:56.760 who is that guy. 1:25:57.080 --> 1:25:58.120 Who's the guy that's. 1:25:58.000 --> 1:26:00.559 Gonna say I'm gonna make all the tackles, I'm gonna 1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:03.680 make the play. It's almost like everybody is waiting for 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:05.000 somebody else to make a play. 1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:06.200 Yeah, I think you're right. 1:26:06.240 --> 1:26:08.400 Well, I think they had Logan Wilson up for a 1:26:08.439 --> 1:26:10.360 couple of years. He didn't make a dish, but they 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:12.439 looked at him to kind of set the tone. Now 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:15.320 you got two rookies his linebackers, and you've got you 1:26:15.320 --> 1:26:17.840 don't really have a stud across the front. Now, you 1:26:17.920 --> 1:26:20.960 really don't have a defensive standout, not one, not one. 1:26:21.520 --> 1:26:23.800 And to your point, I mean, nobody can kind of 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:26.400 say let's get after it boys, you know, because you 1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:28.160 got to show it on the field now, because you've 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:29.840 not earned the right to kind of step up and 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:30.439 make that. 1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:32.120 And you know what us to add to that, though, 1:26:32.240 --> 1:26:35.599 is how many of the guys on that team are 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:40.559 able to come up to you and say, you know, 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:43.040 I'm putting my foot in your bike, you know, And 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:44.800 I'm not putting it in there because I hate you, 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:47.360 but you're not doing your job. Nobody does that. They 1:26:47.360 --> 1:26:48.920 stand around and they all want to watch. But then 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:51.080 here's what happens to me. I like that gets me 1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:54.639 is that when they make a play, all of a sudden, 1:26:54.680 --> 1:26:57.120 they got the dancing on and they're down fourteen nothing, 1:26:57.120 --> 1:27:00.360 and the dude, you don't dance when you're losing, dance 1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:02.040 when you win it. It acts like you've been there. 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:04.479 Paul Brown said that to us many many years ago. 1:27:04.960 --> 1:27:07.439 Acts like you've been there. As the Curtis scored a touchdown, 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:10.240 he drops the ball. Tim McGee scored the touchdown. He 1:27:10.240 --> 1:27:13.080 flipped it over his shoulder. These guys don't touchdown down. 1:27:13.080 --> 1:27:15.200 They throw it up in the stand. They gotta do backflip. 1:27:15.240 --> 1:27:17.960 They gotta do all that because a it's a showcase, 1:27:18.320 --> 1:27:20.720 and it shouldn't be a showcase. It's supposed to be 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:22.800 smash mouth beat the other guy up. 1:27:22.840 --> 1:27:22.960 Now. 1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:24.920 I'm not trying to hurt you, but I'm gonna hit 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:26.679 you hard enough to let you know that thirty three 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:29.760 is here all day. I Curtis liked to go over 1:27:29.800 --> 1:27:32.360 the shoulder, just dropped it over and over his shoulder. 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:33.439 Don't say nothing. 1:27:33.520 --> 1:27:35.639 Ain't up there dancing, just dropping and keep on moving. 1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:36.639 That's exactly right. 1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:40.320 Well, let's review, good gentlemen, the guilty windows, window of 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:43.760 opportunity brought to you by Guilkey Windows. To keep the 1:27:43.880 --> 1:27:48.719 quality windows is trusting the pros guilty windows. The window 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:54.559 of opportunity came when Gino Stone got the interception, raced 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:56.400 it in from thirty three yards out, and all of 1:27:56.439 --> 1:27:58.280 a sudden the peggals are up ten to nothing. 1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:00.200 What should have happened, David. 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:04.040 Fulcher, That is when you put your foot on your throat. 1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:06.040 You put the foot on the throat and you just 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:09.600 keep squeezing. They Because I'm telling you, I mayor that 1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:14.040 quarterback Drake. I'm telling you he he looked rattled earlier, 1:28:14.120 --> 1:28:16.080 that gear, he looked rattled, And all of a sudden 1:28:16.120 --> 1:28:18.200 it's like, oh, well, Cincinnati, you gonna let me come 1:28:18.240 --> 1:28:20.720 out out of this shadow, then I'm gonna get it. 1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:22.320 All of a sudden he started playing a little bit better. 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:24.240 We should have put our foot of thro on their throat. 1:28:24.240 --> 1:28:26.360 We should have came after him and beat him up. 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:28.960 We sat back and let him sit there. We didn't 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:31.280 blitz him. We didn't put pressure on him. We tried 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:33.479 to rush that four to put pressure on him in 1:28:33.479 --> 1:28:35.439 that four, didn't get there, and all of a sudden, 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:38.680 now he becomes the Super Bowl quarterback of whatnot of 1:28:39.040 --> 1:28:39.360 the year. 1:28:40.680 --> 1:28:41.280 The key the. 1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:45.800 Quality windows is trusting the pros Kilkey windows. That that 1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:49.519 s the Kilkey windows, window of opportunity. And the Bengals 1:28:49.560 --> 1:28:50.719 really let it slip away. 1:28:50.800 --> 1:28:51.439 Yeah they did. 1:28:52.439 --> 1:28:54.200 And I thought they had energy coming out of you 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:57.240 know the same yeah with you know when McPherson hits 1:28:57.280 --> 1:29:00.360 the big long field goal, I mean always sudden, man, 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:01.920 you should be playing with the energy. 1:29:01.520 --> 1:29:03.439 And they came out in that third quarter it was 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:07.599 like flat clap yeah, flat even flap set, even lap set. 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:10.479 That is momentum right there to get that Fueld goal 1:29:10.680 --> 1:29:12.160 to pull with it seventeen. 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:12.240 To third two. 1:29:12.400 --> 1:29:14.920 Is that flatness that coming out second half on the 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:18.880 coach or that players, because when you come out a 1:29:18.920 --> 1:29:20.080 lot of time, you come out. 1:29:19.920 --> 1:29:22.280 Of halftime, you've been sitting there for ten twelve minutes and. 1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:24.559 We got the ball, then have the ball stiff. 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:26.439 Yeah, you know, you're little stiff and you're not like 1:29:26.479 --> 1:29:27.280 you were when you went in. 1:29:27.320 --> 1:29:29.840 Blood circulating, everything is flowing, but you got to come 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:30.639 back out and get that. 1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:31.439 Blood going again. 1:29:31.720 --> 1:29:32.719 But we come out flat. 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:35.120 And when you come out flat and they just punching 1:29:35.160 --> 1:29:38.000 and punching, you told New England, Hey, it's all the win, 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:38.560 you know. 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:40.280 I think it depends on the kind of team you have, 1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:42.240 because I think there are some teams that don't need 1:29:42.280 --> 1:29:44.639 a coach to really kind of kick them in the butt, 1:29:44.880 --> 1:29:48.200 because these guys are professionals, like you say, right, and it's. 1:29:48.040 --> 1:29:50.200 Me against you. If you beat me, that makes me 1:29:50.240 --> 1:29:52.080 look bad. Yeah, I mean, you can't have that go on. 1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:54.240 But I think there's this team is a little bit 1:29:54.400 --> 1:29:56.519 like Doctor Jekyl, Mister or High. You don't know what 1:29:56.600 --> 1:29:59.120 you've got, and they're very like one mistake and they 1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:00.800 kind of break down. So you kind of have to 1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:02.479 kind of stay behind them and just kind of keep 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:03.639 pushing it and they're waiting. 1:30:04.080 --> 1:30:06.400 It's almost like they're waiting for somebody else to make 1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:06.840 them pay. 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:11.040 It's awesome having touchdown Tommy Stevens from Milford right here 1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:12.920 with us alongside David Folter. 1:30:13.080 --> 1:30:16.040 This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy. 1:30:15.800 --> 1:30:19.640 Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 1:30:19.680 --> 1:30:22.920 Man, We've got the folks on the line. Please hold 1:30:22.960 --> 1:30:24.799 on We're gonna come to you next. 1:30:26.800 --> 1:30:29.640 We're live at Wings and Rings in Milford having a 1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:33.000 blast breaking down the Bengals twenty six to twenty loss 1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:36.560 to the New England Patriots on seven hundred wl W. 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:47.040 I would agree, yeah, oh yeah. 1:30:47.720 --> 1:30:57.960 Heresting to the Dry States Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk 1:30:58.520 --> 1:31:00.120 presented by RNL care. 1:31:02.120 --> 1:31:04.080 He's David Folter, This is Chick Ludwig. 1:31:04.080 --> 1:31:07.839 We're joined by touchdown Tommy Stevens right here in Milford 1:31:08.280 --> 1:31:11.960 at the Wings and Rings. And I wanted to bring 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:16.760 up a couple names here, guys. Chase Brown is really. 1:31:17.080 --> 1:31:19.280 Blossoming into a playmaker. 1:31:19.680 --> 1:31:23.400 Nineteen carries one hundred and seven yards today, five point 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:25.800 six yards of carry a long game of twenty one 1:31:27.280 --> 1:31:31.000 and he also caught a couple passes for twenty three yards. 1:31:31.800 --> 1:31:36.320 So without Jamar Chase, they had to get creative. So 1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:38.719 it was great to see Micah Sicky get back. 1:31:39.000 --> 1:31:40.000 In the flow of things. 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:44.479 Mitchell Tinsley two catches twenty nine yards. 1:31:44.600 --> 1:31:46.240 They needed to get him more involved. 1:31:46.800 --> 1:31:52.599 Andre Josebash four carries or four catches for sixty one yards. 1:31:52.760 --> 1:31:56.759 T Higgins five for thirty one before his injury. Yeah, 1:31:56.800 --> 1:32:00.599 so they really missed Jamar Chase bottom line. 1:32:00.640 --> 1:32:01.559 They mister mark Chase. 1:32:01.600 --> 1:32:04.360 But I tell you what, Chase Brown, I wish they 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:07.000 had another running back that could give him a little 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:08.800 bit of breather every now and then, because they're not. 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:12.679 It's not giving it to him. Yeah, that's right down. 1:32:12.960 --> 1:32:16.080 But I'll tell you something, Chase Brown is a gamer. 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:18.840 Chase Brown's a gamer, and I wish that line would 1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:21.040 block enough for him because this guy could be that 1:32:21.760 --> 1:32:26.120 one hundred yard back every game nineteen twenty carries a game. 1:32:27.000 --> 1:32:28.599 Chase Brown is for real. 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:31.439 On that offense, I just I just don't see the 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:35.880 offensive line pushing. It's almost like they stalemate. They all 1:32:35.880 --> 1:32:38.519 want to get to stand tall. Pass block and run 1:32:38.560 --> 1:32:40.880 block is the same thing from every offensive lineman that 1:32:40.920 --> 1:32:44.120 we got. They don't fire out, they don't go backwards 1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:46.080 on pass. They stand there and they catch and they 1:32:46.080 --> 1:32:47.760 hold and they try to bench press. 1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:48.760 And push people out. 1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:52.880 And them defensive linemen are strong, they're not moving. And 1:32:52.960 --> 1:32:58.839 I'm telling you today's that defensive line for New England. 1:32:59.479 --> 1:33:02.360 At one series they just fight out kicked the Bengals 1:33:02.360 --> 1:33:04.720 offensive line, but they push them all back three and out. 1:33:04.760 --> 1:33:08.200 They punt the ball We've got to be more physical. 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:09.200 I think you said that. 1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:12.880 Absolutely, we're not physical enough on both sides of the ball. 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:15.280 A play here and a play there. But it's got to. 1:33:15.280 --> 1:33:20.519 Be continuance year out, game in game, pushing people and 1:33:20.600 --> 1:33:22.680 knocking people around. And if you get a fifteen yard 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:25.559 penalty because somebody's talking crazy and you put your form 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:26.880 in his throat, you know what. 1:33:26.920 --> 1:33:28.920 I'm an owner. I'll pay for that fine. But we 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:31.439 don't do that. We don't. 1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:34.679 We want to catch the blows instead of delivering the blow. 1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:36.920 And you can't do that in the National Football leagues, 1:33:36.960 --> 1:33:38.040 especially not in this league. 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:39.840 Let's go out to the phones. Do we have Bill 1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:40.640 in Florence? 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:47.280 Yeah, I just want to say something really quick. First 1:33:47.360 --> 1:33:51.439 of all, kudos to McPherson. I mean, geez, hitting sixty 1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:56.320 three yards, yes, And here's the thing, Fellas, I think 1:33:56.360 --> 1:33:58.320 you should have got seventy yards. You want to load 1:33:58.360 --> 1:34:06.080 the truth. And nobody's talking about Joe Flacto and he's 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:10.000 not a fifty sixty million dollar quarterback. And this guy's 1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:14.080 come in to our league, and I mean he's got 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:18.240 a three to zero eight caliber arm and he's given 1:34:18.320 --> 1:34:21.160 everything he can possibly give to this team. 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:25.160 So it was already a sixth game, already his sixth game. 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:28.439 You're right, and uh, he's doing all he can do. 1:34:28.720 --> 1:34:31.160 I just wish he had to throw that interception because 1:34:31.160 --> 1:34:31.919 that was telegram. 1:34:32.000 --> 1:34:32.160 Yeah. 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:34.600 Just hey, that's part of the game and it happens. 1:34:35.400 --> 1:34:37.559 But this guy has come into this league. 1:34:37.640 --> 1:34:41.320 He's not making fifty sixty million dollars anymore, but they're 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:44.840 forty year old. I mean, he's playing like. I'm so 1:34:45.040 --> 1:34:47.840 glad that if Joe Burrow gets back in there, that 1:34:48.000 --> 1:34:51.160 this is our backup quarterback. That's all I'm gonna say. 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:54.120 All right, eight, Bill appreciated you carry. 1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:59.400 Yeah, and you mentioned Evan McPherson wearing shoes for the 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:02.840 Shoe List. Yeah, a huge, A great cause. Uh, I 1:35:02.960 --> 1:35:05.400 want fans to check that out. And that was on 1:35:05.479 --> 1:35:11.080 his uh Mike, you know, Mike my cost like please, yes, all. 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:14.839 Right, Well, I mean we're donating me and my wife, 1:35:15.320 --> 1:35:17.960 and I'm just saying, he hit a sixty three. I 1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:19.200 think he can hit a seventy. 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:20.120 Definitely. 1:35:21.120 --> 1:35:21.960 You're kidding me. 1:35:22.760 --> 1:35:24.960 All right, Phil, we got to run appreciate it. 1:35:25.080 --> 1:35:27.640 I want to get to some other callers. Andy is 1:35:27.680 --> 1:35:33.360 in Hawaii. Andy, are you there. Okay, how about Larry? 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:34.760 How about Larry and Hamilton? 1:35:35.880 --> 1:35:38.320 Yes, I am Hi Larry. 1:35:38.560 --> 1:35:39.479 How you doing guys? 1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:42.559 And uh, David, you and I go back. Uh, I'm 1:35:42.600 --> 1:35:44.720 the Larry that's been to your house and have like 1:35:44.840 --> 1:35:50.040 five of your jerseys. You kind of stole a little 1:35:50.040 --> 1:35:55.000 bit of my thunder, David. When the offensive line are 1:35:55.080 --> 1:36:00.920 standing there upright and they're not leaning in, there's no 1:36:00.960 --> 1:36:03.680 way in the world they're going to defend. And on 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:07.479 the defensive side, when a guy is wide open and 1:36:07.600 --> 1:36:11.559 we have two Bengals standing there next to each other 1:36:11.960 --> 1:36:15.639 and the other the offensive player is wide open, there's 1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:19.880 something wrong what you said earlier about you know, former 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:24.040 player coaching. Come on, dude, I know you. I know 1:36:24.160 --> 1:36:28.040 the coaching that you do with inmates. Now do you 1:36:28.120 --> 1:36:29.479 know who I am? 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:30.280 Of course I do. 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:34.040 Larry, how you doing, man, I'm doing well. 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:37.800 And I'll tell you what. You remind me so much 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:43.920 of Kerry Combs and your power, your enthusiasm and everything else. 1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:45.000 It's electric. 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:48.600 It moves other people in that same situation. At the 1:36:48.680 --> 1:36:52.960 end of the day, I'm reluctant to be critical of coaching, 1:36:52.960 --> 1:36:55.400 but I'm to the point now where you almost have 1:36:55.520 --> 1:36:59.879 to be. I've had situations with me and Robert Jackson 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:02.959 and some kids that I was working with at Northwest 1:37:03.000 --> 1:37:07.280 High School, and I say, Robert Jackson, get these kids 1:37:07.320 --> 1:37:09.759 so repped up they couldn't even wait to go play again. 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:12.840 The same with Tim McGee, and I know what you're 1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:16.679 bit made of. So to say that you probably couldn't 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:20.320 add value or they whatever you, I would be tickled 1:37:20.320 --> 1:37:22.280 to death to know that you were going to go 1:37:22.320 --> 1:37:25.439 in that locker room and motivate people to run through 1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:27.240 fire with gasoline drawers on. 1:37:29.120 --> 1:37:31.559 I will tell you this, Larry, You're on it man. 1:37:31.640 --> 1:37:34.040 That stone, that's the stone man right there, Larry's stone. 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:37.240 I'm gonna tell you there. I think you know, as 1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:39.120 a former player, I don't I don't want to coach, 1:37:39.400 --> 1:37:41.519 you know. I think coaching takes a lot away from 1:37:41.520 --> 1:37:44.640 your family. You're always gone and all late nights. But 1:37:44.800 --> 1:37:46.800 you know, we know a little bit about football, man, 1:37:46.920 --> 1:37:49.360 and I just all I would would love to do 1:37:49.479 --> 1:37:51.800 is just sit down with the safeties one day and say, 1:37:52.280 --> 1:37:54.760 tell me what you see. I want to look at 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:56.320 the film. All of us are gonna look at the 1:37:56.320 --> 1:37:58.360 same field. Tell me what you see, and then I 1:37:58.400 --> 1:38:01.400 want them to just tell me, because I still say it. 1:38:02.320 --> 1:38:05.080 When le Ball used to tell us that safety he says, listen, 1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:06.840 I don't want you running out of there, because if 1:38:06.880 --> 1:38:08.599 you run out of there and the ball is a run, 1:38:08.720 --> 1:38:12.400 you're gone. He used to tell us to shuffle and 1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:16.240 two shuffles. Two shuffle steps will tell you it's it 1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:18.960 a run or pass. If it's a run, on the 1:38:19.000 --> 1:38:21.280 third shuffle step, I'm coming to the line of scrimmage. 1:38:21.800 --> 1:38:24.519 If it's a pass. By third, I'm going back deep. 1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:26.880 These guys are running out of there and it's a 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:29.679 running play, and I'm thinking, where are you going? 1:38:30.000 --> 1:38:31.800 Why are you guys going twenty yards deep when the 1:38:31.840 --> 1:38:34.799 ball is being ran and then when they're twenty. 1:38:34.640 --> 1:38:35.679 Yards deep on the past. 1:38:36.400 --> 1:38:39.160 That's why the tight ends are opening across the middle 1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:40.800 because there's no safety there. 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:42.680 There's no safety there to stop that. 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:46.040 When we obviously the NFL is trying to be safe 1:38:46.080 --> 1:38:48.080 on receivers coming across the middle getting hurt. 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:51.080 But I had talked to Jamar Chase three weeks ago. 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:53.040 You know, he told me I will run across the 1:38:53.080 --> 1:38:54.960 middle all day because I know the earths aren't gonna 1:38:55.040 --> 1:38:58.040 hit me. Because the NFL is gonna find him. Well, listen, man, 1:38:58.160 --> 1:39:00.479 let me tell you something. If you were playing my era, 1:39:00.920 --> 1:39:03.559 you come across the middle, we're gonna hit, You're gonna 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:05.280 take your hand off. And these guys won't do it. 1:39:05.320 --> 1:39:07.840 They will not do it, man. And that's why I 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:12.840 just feel like we are passive. We're not aggressive the 1:39:12.960 --> 1:39:15.479 other teams, and that's why they do what they do 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:15.880 to us. 1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:21.479 It's because about the offensive the offensive line. When when 1:39:21.560 --> 1:39:25.160 when they're standing upright and they're not leaning in to 1:39:25.280 --> 1:39:28.080 that the defender coming across the line, they're not they're 1:39:28.120 --> 1:39:31.840 not ready to block that guy. They're standing upright. That's crazy. 1:39:31.920 --> 1:39:38.200 They call that catching. So much we've got, is it? 1:39:38.320 --> 1:39:39.680 Jacob in Cincinnati? 1:39:41.280 --> 1:39:42.040 Is there Jammy? 1:39:42.840 --> 1:39:43.240 Yes, sir? 1:39:45.000 --> 1:39:45.400 All right. 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:47.280 That might be kind of a basic question. 1:39:48.560 --> 1:39:50.840 I probably google it or whatever, but I figure some 1:39:50.880 --> 1:39:53.479 people might have the same question. At a market like 1:39:53.560 --> 1:39:57.439 Guards and Cincinnati, where's like where are our main sources 1:39:57.439 --> 1:40:00.400 of revenue? And like how does that and pay to 1:40:00.439 --> 1:40:03.280 a big market team? And also I know it kind 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:05.280 of comes and goes in waves that you build a team. 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:07.439 I know the season's not over yet. 1:40:07.240 --> 1:40:09.080 But like kind of how many years do we kind 1:40:09.080 --> 1:40:11.800 of have with what we've got here, can you kind 1:40:11.800 --> 1:40:13.080 of paint the picture financially? 1:40:15.760 --> 1:40:16.880 I'm not sure on that one. 1:40:18.000 --> 1:40:20.600 Could you Gosh, I feel like an attorney because you 1:40:20.640 --> 1:40:24.200 rephrase the question how I'm not sure. 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:24.760 I'm not sure. 1:40:24.800 --> 1:40:26.240 I think he's kind of like I mean, I think 1:40:26.280 --> 1:40:28.720 there's two when you when you compare teams. He's trying 1:40:28.720 --> 1:40:30.879 to see the money that we make, mean the Bengals, 1:40:30.880 --> 1:40:34.120 how does that compare with other teams? And so obviously 1:40:34.160 --> 1:40:38.000 there's a cap that all teams play undres, right, and 1:40:38.080 --> 1:40:40.120 so we know where you know, you're paying Jamar, you're 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:42.639 paying Higgins, you're paying that's one hundred and fifty million 1:40:42.680 --> 1:40:44.839 dollars there, and I think that I think the payroll 1:40:44.880 --> 1:40:47.080 is about two fifty. So you've got one hundred million 1:40:47.160 --> 1:40:50.040 left for the fifty other players right now. The question 1:40:50.120 --> 1:40:52.879 I would ask is, you know where does the Bengals 1:40:52.920 --> 1:40:55.680 get their money as a franchise to pay for scouts, 1:40:55.920 --> 1:40:58.680 to pay for you know, all those extra things that 1:40:58.760 --> 1:41:02.240 really make a difference. Maybe maybe the doctors they have there, 1:41:02.240 --> 1:41:04.400 the staff that you know, all those other pieces. 1:41:04.400 --> 1:41:05.839 Now, I don't know if that comes from tickets. 1:41:06.280 --> 1:41:09.040 That's why ticket prices are going up pay corps. 1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:13.280 Pay Corps gave them a right an eight failure just 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:15.160 to have their name on it, so that money pays 1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:16.320 for salaries as well. 1:41:16.360 --> 1:41:19.320 But compared to like San Francisco, or compared to big, 1:41:19.600 --> 1:41:22.760 big market accounts, I mean, we probably get less, but 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:24.680 I don't think we're spending nearly as much. 1:41:24.760 --> 1:41:26.519 I think the Browns are making a lot of money. 1:41:26.720 --> 1:41:27.200 Yes they are. 1:41:27.280 --> 1:41:29.559 They'll make even more money they sell the team because 1:41:29.680 --> 1:41:31.400 they bought it. I think for thirty million, I think 1:41:31.400 --> 1:41:33.519 it's worth what four billion? Yeah, I mean I'd like 1:41:33.560 --> 1:41:36.360 to have that return, you know, and so But to 1:41:36.439 --> 1:41:39.120 your point, I think the Bengals don't make as much. 1:41:39.120 --> 1:41:40.960 I mean, there's Jersey sales, and some of that is 1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:43.519 split across all the teams, but there is some some 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:46.040 of that revenue is kept by the by the home 1:41:46.080 --> 1:41:47.080 team and. 1:41:46.720 --> 1:41:50.120 In the TV the TV spots that everybody's getting you gotta, 1:41:50.240 --> 1:41:50.799 you gotta. 1:41:52.360 --> 1:41:55.920 Not what's his name? The oh, I forgot about the 1:41:55.960 --> 1:41:56.559 market that fast? 1:41:56.600 --> 1:42:01.200 The the commissioner, the commissioners. Yeah, yeah, Richard Dale's making 1:42:01.240 --> 1:42:03.679 sixty five million dollars a year to get all these 1:42:03.760 --> 1:42:07.519 us extra incentives for the team's plan. Overseas and whatnot. 1:42:07.760 --> 1:42:10.559 So the teams aren't making some money, but I don't know. 1:42:10.640 --> 1:42:12.280 I don't think the Bengals is making as much as 1:42:12.280 --> 1:42:12.800 the Big and. 1:42:12.880 --> 1:42:14.920 Some of the other one. We'll continue that thought. We've 1:42:14.920 --> 1:42:16.320 reached the top of the hour break. 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:18.840 You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:24.839 Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW. 1:42:26.880 --> 1:42:30.160 This is the Tri Stage Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports 1:42:30.200 --> 1:42:34.360 Talk live from Buffalo Wings and Rings, presented by R 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:37.439 and L Carriers. 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Gosh, even Joe Flacco had a finger 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:23.120 injury that forced Jake Browning to come in for a play, 1:44:23.320 --> 1:44:27.240 completed a pass. He was done because Flacco came back on. 1:44:27.760 --> 1:44:31.479 But TAJH Brooks is out with a concussion and a 1:44:31.520 --> 1:44:35.240 shoulder injury by Andre Joseavash And at one point in 1:44:35.320 --> 1:44:39.160 this game, the Bengals only had two healthy wide receivers 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:44.360 in Charlie Jones and Mitchell Tinsley and of course t Higgins. 1:44:44.520 --> 1:44:47.639 You could hear the crowd yelling for Tea. He banged 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:52.200 his head violently on the on the turf and was 1:44:53.160 --> 1:44:55.639 he kind of knocked out a little bit knocked out 1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:59.200 concussion And uh man, it's gonna be tough for him 1:44:59.200 --> 1:45:01.640 to come back and play on Thursday night with the 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:05.360 Bengals face the Baltimore Ravens at M ANDT Backs Stadium 1:45:05.360 --> 1:45:05.759 on Thursday. 1:45:05.800 --> 1:45:07.479 The thing I can think, the only thing I can 1:45:07.520 --> 1:45:09.800 think of on this concussion is is they're gonna probably 1:45:09.840 --> 1:45:11.400 give him a test in a couple of days and 1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:13.640 see what that baseline. But when they go inside the 1:45:13.720 --> 1:45:18.519 blue tint and the training camp, they these guys get there, 1:45:18.560 --> 1:45:22.240 they get concussion protocol testing, blah blah blah, lights and whatnot. 1:45:22.600 --> 1:45:24.360 And when he goes in that tent, they put that 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:27.280 same test up to see how reaction and if the 1:45:27.320 --> 1:45:31.719 reactions aren't the same then it was when training camp happened, 1:45:31.920 --> 1:45:34.799 then they're gonna he probably won't be playing on Thursday. 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:38.200 And that's today's Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you 1:45:38.240 --> 1:45:41.320 by Postman Law Injured Call eight four to four. Postman 1:45:41.680 --> 1:45:47.280 Others promise, Postman delivers. So where does this team go 1:45:47.400 --> 1:45:48.040 from here? 1:45:48.160 --> 1:45:48.320 Now? 1:45:48.479 --> 1:45:52.080 David Foulcher on a short work week, man with a 1:45:52.120 --> 1:45:55.439 three and eight record, having to play really a team 1:45:55.479 --> 1:46:00.120 now that's tied with Pittsburgh at six and five. 1:46:01.520 --> 1:46:05.040 With a winning streak going. Now, Well, when Baltimore ravens, 1:46:05.080 --> 1:46:06.680 when you have a short week, you don't have a 1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:09.679 day off. So like tomorrow, they're gonna be doing installation 1:46:10.439 --> 1:46:13.519 for Baltimore and practice is probably gonna be a little 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:16.559 bit light, but there's no rests, so there's no day off. 1:46:16.600 --> 1:46:19.880 Normally you get Tuesday off when you play on a Sunday. Well, 1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:23.880 Monday is definitely gonna be like Wednesday. So tomorrow they're 1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:28.080 gonna practice tomorrow with soreness, with pain, with whatever's going on, 1:46:28.160 --> 1:46:29.960 and they got to get themselves ready for Thursdays. 1:46:29.960 --> 1:46:31.479 So there's not a lot of. 1:46:31.360 --> 1:46:33.759 Time for people who are injured. 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:36.400 You know, T Higgins was if this was a Sunday 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:39.880 game coming up, t would have Monday, Tuesday, we got 1:46:39.840 --> 1:46:43.479 automatic off. Wednesday is installation day. He could be bread, 1:46:43.560 --> 1:46:45.679 he could be ready to play on Sunday. I don't 1:46:45.680 --> 1:46:48.400 know what's gonna happen this week. But once again, it's 1:46:48.760 --> 1:46:50.439 when you got to play a short week. Man, there's 1:46:50.479 --> 1:46:52.920 no time to sit back and think about anything because 1:46:53.280 --> 1:46:56.040 you're finna play the Ravens, and the Ravens are look 1:46:56.080 --> 1:46:58.599 like they've turned the corner and getting themselves ready to play. 1:46:58.680 --> 1:47:01.680 Well, we'll see if Joe is back on Thursday night, 1:47:01.720 --> 1:47:06.200 Thanksgiving night, and Jamaar Chase after a one game suspension. 1:47:06.560 --> 1:47:10.120 Hopefully he comes back and he can be Jamar Chase. 1:47:11.000 --> 1:47:13.479 I mean that's a big, big I'm kind of mixed 1:47:13.520 --> 1:47:15.599 on this whole Burrow thing on Thursday. You know, I'm 1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:17.920 really you know, like I won him for the next 1:47:17.960 --> 1:47:20.120 ten years, right, and I just don't want to have 1:47:20.200 --> 1:47:22.800 him showing up on Thursday and having another injury. I mean, 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:24.760 is he one hundred percent? I mean they need to 1:47:24.800 --> 1:47:27.599 be absolutely sure about that. And plus you're going into 1:47:27.640 --> 1:47:30.480 a hostile environment. I mean, I'll tell you one thing. Baltimore, 1:47:30.800 --> 1:47:33.240 like Pittsburgh and David, you and I talked about it. 1:47:33.880 --> 1:47:36.519 They have definition. They know what their defense is and 1:47:36.560 --> 1:47:40.200 they draft people that fit that definition. The Bengals defense 1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:42.679 doesn't have a definition, and it hasn't for a long time. 1:47:42.720 --> 1:47:43.800 You guys, were hitters there. 1:47:44.080 --> 1:47:46.479 We haven't had that kind of definition, so they haven't 1:47:46.520 --> 1:47:49.040 really figured out who and what they want to be. 1:47:49.200 --> 1:47:52.280 You know, the Pittsburg Steelers in the Baltimore Ravens. When 1:47:52.320 --> 1:47:56.160 a player leaves, when they recruit, they try to find 1:47:56.240 --> 1:47:58.920 that same guy wherever college he's at. 1:47:59.200 --> 1:48:02.599 I remember when and Oh. 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:08.120 Harrison linebacker linman James Harrison for the Pittsburgh Steelers. When Harrison, 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:12.280 before Harrison got there, there was another d lineman that 1:48:12.360 --> 1:48:15.200 Harrison played just alike. So when they brought Harrison in 1:48:15.439 --> 1:48:19.040 the only difference was the name. The attitude and the 1:48:19.560 --> 1:48:22.599 aggressiveness was still there, was just a different name. 1:48:22.720 --> 1:48:25.440 Well, then they do that all the time. Levon Kirkland. 1:48:26.120 --> 1:48:28.559 Yes, they like hit him for a year or two 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:32.000 and then they spring him on on you because. 1:48:31.680 --> 1:48:34.080 Kirkland was just like the guy that was playing in 1:48:34.160 --> 1:48:37.240 front of him. So all they missed was a different name, 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:39.760 but the same attitude. And you don't have that attitude 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:42.559 and an identity because we don't have an identity. 1:48:42.920 --> 1:48:45.439 Our identity is draft the player, bring him in here. 1:48:45.479 --> 1:48:48.640 Well, the guy that played that position four before was 1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:51.320 a four or five guy that knocked somebody's telling all, well, 1:48:51.360 --> 1:48:54.360 this guy's a four to seven and he's a little passive. Well, 1:48:54.360 --> 1:48:56.920 that's not the same aggressive guy that we're looking for. 1:48:57.200 --> 1:49:00.200 We're scouting. Going back to that scouting apartment when when 1:49:00.200 --> 1:49:02.800 you scout, when you replace a player, you need to 1:49:02.840 --> 1:49:08.040 replace that player with the same mode of a player 1:49:08.040 --> 1:49:10.360 that played like this. And that's what that's why Pittsburgh 1:49:10.400 --> 1:49:12.719 is so successful in Baltimore, so successful. 1:49:12.800 --> 1:49:18.519 Joey Porter, Levon Kirkland, think about those guys, James Harrison, think. 1:49:18.320 --> 1:49:20.400 About all of us. They're all cut from the same cloth. 1:49:20.520 --> 1:49:23.840 They match what Pittsburgh wants to do, you know, and 1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:25.800 so to you could get a guy that's an inch 1:49:25.840 --> 1:49:28.200 or too shorter, but he's the guy you want. But 1:49:28.240 --> 1:49:31.360 he doesn't make a big difference. If the guy's taking your. 1:49:31.280 --> 1:49:33.200 Head, if he does exactly what that guy that we 1:49:34.040 --> 1:49:35.920 retired that played in that position, if he does the 1:49:36.000 --> 1:49:38.640 same exact thing, we don't have to change nothing. Our 1:49:38.680 --> 1:49:40.320 defense is going to stay the same. It's just a 1:49:40.360 --> 1:49:42.240 different number and a different sized guy. 1:49:42.400 --> 1:49:45.360 We're not changing our defense. We're just essentially putting players 1:49:45.400 --> 1:49:47.000 in if they can play, that's it. 1:49:47.479 --> 1:49:51.360 And do we still have Chris in Cincinnati on the 1:49:51.360 --> 1:49:54.839 line okay, and how about Don in Newport? 1:49:55.120 --> 1:49:58.400 Is he still with us? Okay? Uh? 1:49:58.439 --> 1:50:01.800 Seven nine seven thousand, one eight hundred the big one. Well, 1:50:01.880 --> 1:50:05.480 let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage. 1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:07.880 David Foulcher brought to you. 1:50:07.800 --> 1:50:11.920 By Cover since he dot com local health insurance experts 1:50:11.960 --> 1:50:16.479 for over twenty years. Well, the secondary man got off 1:50:16.479 --> 1:50:19.040 to a great start with you know, Stone in a 1:50:19.080 --> 1:50:20.080 thirty three yard. 1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:22.479 Pick six and at ten to h in lead. 1:50:22.920 --> 1:50:26.080 Yeah, that that I was when they were up ten nothing, 1:50:26.200 --> 1:50:28.080 I said, We're gonna run New England right out of here. 1:50:28.360 --> 1:50:29.680 That's what I felt, were gonna run them out here 1:50:29.680 --> 1:50:32.719 because the defense is still mating right now making plays, 1:50:32.720 --> 1:50:34.760 and I'm thinking, okay, so let's get the offense to 1:50:34.800 --> 1:50:36.360 do what they've been doing the last couple of weeks, 1:50:36.479 --> 1:50:38.599 scoring some points. We got a field goal kick, gonna 1:50:38.600 --> 1:50:42.559 get kicks and field goals and all of the like, okay, 1:50:43.160 --> 1:50:45.240 the air just went out of the sale. 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:45.600 The aggressive this. 1:50:47.040 --> 1:50:49.960 Then the offense slowed down, and then all of a sudden, 1:50:50.520 --> 1:50:53.280 we get a punter who's who's leading the leader running 1:50:53.560 --> 1:50:57.040 and he shanks one forty thirty five yards and I'm like, well, 1:50:57.040 --> 1:50:59.080 he hadn't done that in months, and all of a sudden, 1:50:59.360 --> 1:51:01.720 you could see win come out of the sale. And 1:51:01.760 --> 1:51:04.200 now New England says, oh, if you're gonna let us 1:51:04.200 --> 1:51:06.160 hang around, we're gonna bite you. 1:51:06.240 --> 1:51:07.240 And they bid us right. 1:51:07.320 --> 1:51:09.320 And they had three offensive line to go down. 1:51:09.479 --> 1:51:12.439 Yes they were doing with backup playing backup side the 1:51:12.720 --> 1:51:17.000 west side of their offensive line, but to stop them 1:51:17.080 --> 1:51:20.320 on the. 1:51:18.920 --> 1:51:23.400 Goal line with ten plays and that one stretch it 1:51:23.520 --> 1:51:29.920 was seven at the right, the seven plays inside of 1:51:29.960 --> 1:51:30.320 ten yard. 1:51:30.400 --> 1:51:33.839 That was after the two pass interference penalties on Dak's hill. 1:51:33.960 --> 1:51:37.439 And our and our defense did that. They got on 1:51:37.479 --> 1:51:39.200 the goal line. First thing I thought about, well, oh 1:51:39.240 --> 1:51:42.160 it's another touchdown. They stepped up and made plays, and 1:51:42.200 --> 1:51:44.640 you say to yourself, if we could do that, we 1:51:44.720 --> 1:51:45.439 got a shot. 1:51:45.920 --> 1:51:47.559 And sure enough, dude, I knew. 1:51:47.439 --> 1:51:48.080 We had a shot. 1:51:48.280 --> 1:51:48.680 I was. 1:51:49.120 --> 1:51:50.880 There was no way at first when I saw that 1:51:50.920 --> 1:51:53.599 game the game started. When I looked at statistics and records, 1:51:54.360 --> 1:51:56.040 New Eng's gonna blow us right out of our stadium. 1:51:56.640 --> 1:51:59.479 We're up ten to nothing and we're feeling good, and 1:51:59.520 --> 1:52:01.360 all of a sudd it was like, oh, we're in 1:52:01.520 --> 1:52:04.719 uncharted territory. We can't we can't be aggressive. We can't 1:52:04.720 --> 1:52:06.679 do this because that's not us. And all of a sudden, 1:52:06.720 --> 1:52:08.840 New England says, oh, if you're gonna give it to him, 1:52:08.840 --> 1:52:09.679 I don't take it from you. 1:52:10.000 --> 1:52:14.400 And then the secondary, you know, allows gosh, the tight 1:52:14.520 --> 1:52:18.200 ends to Hooper and uh, gosh. 1:52:17.960 --> 1:52:19.120 How does the tight end get wild? 1:52:19.120 --> 1:52:20.320 Od? 1:52:20.760 --> 1:52:21.639 It was nobody there. 1:52:21.680 --> 1:52:23.400 There was no I mean when I say nobody there, 1:52:23.479 --> 1:52:25.200 everybody was on this side of the field. And he's 1:52:25.240 --> 1:52:28.040 the only one over there. And that that that can't happen. 1:52:28.600 --> 1:52:32.960 And Hunter Henry on a wide can coverage. Hunter Henry 1:52:33.000 --> 1:52:34.280 with the twenty eight yard. 1:52:35.520 --> 1:52:40.280 Touchdown, seven receptions, one hundred and fifteen yards, Austin Hooper 1:52:40.760 --> 1:52:42.719 three catches, nine yards. 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:44.640 Man, Just how does the titand have one hundred and 1:52:44.680 --> 1:52:45.599 fifteen yards receiving? 1:52:45.800 --> 1:52:46.000 Man? 1:52:46.200 --> 1:52:48.559 Just think like four in a row? I think too, 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:49.720 I mean a. 1:52:49.680 --> 1:52:51.800 Deep cross the middle twenty five thirty yards. 1:52:52.160 --> 1:52:55.040 I mean, yeah, it's it's interesting. 1:52:55.080 --> 1:52:58.000 I mean, you know, like I said, it's I think 1:52:58.080 --> 1:53:00.439 I think some teams scout us better than we scout 1:53:00.479 --> 1:53:04.160 the other teams, because you know, they played essentially to 1:53:04.320 --> 1:53:07.439 our weaknesses and threw them right where I mean where 1:53:07.439 --> 1:53:11.000 they had to and unfortunately we didn't have enough answers. 1:53:11.120 --> 1:53:13.160 You know, I saw this in the game, tim if 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:15.040 you guys saw this in the game. So New England 1:53:15.120 --> 1:53:19.080 is throwing the football, throwing the football, Bake throws interception 1:53:19.640 --> 1:53:21.679 for a testdown. All of a sudden, New England lines 1:53:21.760 --> 1:53:23.880 up with two in the backfield and they running ball. Yes, 1:53:24.040 --> 1:53:27.160 and Bengals are struggling against a running game. So New 1:53:27.160 --> 1:53:29.240 England says, we're not gonna throw the ball for the 1:53:29.240 --> 1:53:31.840 next eight plays. And they ran the football, run it down, 1:53:31.840 --> 1:53:33.960 out through, run it down our throat. We got tired, 1:53:34.560 --> 1:53:36.880 tight ends open because now the Bengals are looking for 1:53:36.920 --> 1:53:39.680 a run. So that that tells me that somebody is 1:53:39.680 --> 1:53:43.800 paying attention upstairs, looking down and saying, hey, listen. 1:53:43.560 --> 1:53:44.599 Don't throw the ball no more. 1:53:44.920 --> 1:53:47.720 Listen running football because they struggle with running the foot 1:53:47.960 --> 1:53:48.679 run defense. 1:53:48.920 --> 1:53:50.439 And if we run the football, running. 1:53:50.200 --> 1:53:53.040 Football on him, now we're gonna get aggressive and boom, 1:53:53.040 --> 1:53:54.479 tight ends wide open for a touchdown. 1:53:54.800 --> 1:53:57.960 And that's the defensive secondary coverage report brought to you 1:53:58.120 --> 1:54:01.639 by Cover since he dot com Cover, since he has 1:54:01.680 --> 1:54:06.400 you covered with affordable health insurance plans for over twenty years. 1:54:06.479 --> 1:54:09.080 Let's go out to the phones. Scott is in the 1:54:09.160 --> 1:54:12.599 great state of Illinois. Scott, what's happening? 1:54:13.680 --> 1:54:14.000 Hello? 1:54:14.200 --> 1:54:17.200 Thank you for taking my call, hey, and thank you 1:54:17.280 --> 1:54:21.200 for your support of Ken Anderson to be in the 1:54:21.240 --> 1:54:21.840 Hall of Fame. 1:54:22.400 --> 1:54:25.679 He deserves to be there, so keep it up, please. 1:54:25.720 --> 1:54:27.840 A man, I was on the Pro Football Hall of 1:54:27.840 --> 1:54:33.360 Fame selection committee for ten years, pushing Isaac Curtis, David Folter, 1:54:35.240 --> 1:54:36.440 so many guys. 1:54:37.040 --> 1:54:41.400 I know you were, and I appreciate that. We just don't. 1:54:41.480 --> 1:54:45.760 The Bengals just don't seem to get the respect. I 1:54:45.880 --> 1:54:50.080 just I'm a lifelong Bengals fan. I was born in Cincinnati, 1:54:50.120 --> 1:54:53.320 but my folks were from Chicago, moved back to Chicagoans ten. 1:54:53.800 --> 1:54:56.520 I go to the games. I buy their apparel. You 1:54:56.560 --> 1:54:59.520 guys mentioned earlier. I think our drafting is just terrible. 1:55:00.400 --> 1:55:02.720 I mean, you look back at the offensive lineman we 1:55:02.840 --> 1:55:07.320 drafted Billy Price, uh Cedric Oba, the way he Eric 1:55:07.400 --> 1:55:11.640 Fisher was it Eric Fisherman. 1:55:11.760 --> 1:55:15.920 I I just think that, I, you. 1:55:15.840 --> 1:55:18.440 Know, we I don't want to give Duke Coven credit, 1:55:18.600 --> 1:55:19.200 Jake Fisher. 1:55:19.240 --> 1:55:22.600 I'm sorry. I don't want to give Toven credit for. 1:55:22.600 --> 1:55:27.960 Drafting Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase because we had terrible 1:55:28.000 --> 1:55:30.720 teams and there are no brainers. I I just I 1:55:31.080 --> 1:55:35.600 just don't know where this team's going. I'm frustrated. I've 1:55:35.640 --> 1:55:37.800 been to two games down there already this year. 1:55:40.400 --> 1:55:41.919 Do you think there'll be any changes? 1:55:45.200 --> 1:55:48.520 Well, the Brown family cannot be happy now. A Marius 1:55:48.600 --> 1:55:51.960 Mims is an absolute stud. We love him. It's the 1:55:52.040 --> 1:55:53.840 right offense now. 1:55:54.600 --> 1:55:59.680 Shamar Stewart is a different story. That was to me. 1:55:59.720 --> 1:56:04.520 It was reach uh agreed, Yeah, I mean they draft 1:56:04.560 --> 1:56:07.960 I think they're drafting by PFF for looking at other publications. 1:56:07.960 --> 1:56:10.280 I mean he had the essentials right, I mean he 1:56:10.280 --> 1:56:11.800 had the size, he had to speed. 1:56:12.000 --> 1:56:13.800 He didn't have the production. That's exactly right. 1:56:13.880 --> 1:56:16.600 Guess what the production now either. And he can't stay healthy. 1:56:17.200 --> 1:56:18.960 So I don't care how good you are. You can't 1:56:19.000 --> 1:56:20.920 stay healthy, You're not You're not a team player. 1:56:20.920 --> 1:56:22.880 For he should be, he should be Miles Garrett and 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:23.200 he's not. 1:56:24.080 --> 1:56:26.080 And even Miles I mean not not Miles Garrett, but 1:56:26.160 --> 1:56:29.440 are Miles Miles Murphy. Miles Miles Miles Murphy. I mean 1:56:29.440 --> 1:56:31.840 that is a mountain of a man. But he doesn't 1:56:31.880 --> 1:56:33.840 do anything. I mean he's a number one pick and 1:56:33.880 --> 1:56:36.360 he's still trying to find his way on the field. 1:56:36.880 --> 1:56:40.480 And for me, I'm going, if you're going to invest 1:56:40.840 --> 1:56:42.960 time and that kind of money on the guy, that 1:56:43.000 --> 1:56:44.960 guy has got a me and and and let's say 1:56:44.960 --> 1:56:48.800 that there's a twelve play drive. In that twelve play drive, 1:56:48.960 --> 1:56:51.400 he's got to be somewhere in five and six of 1:56:51.440 --> 1:56:54.240 those running plays coming at him to make a play. 1:56:54.560 --> 1:56:56.600 And we're not getting that. We're not getting that produced. 1:56:56.640 --> 1:56:59.920 He's improving as a run defender, but the sacks are 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:00.400 not there. 1:57:00.840 --> 1:57:04.280 But to the callers point, I mean, are there. 1:57:04.360 --> 1:57:06.160 We're not going to be able to sign many players 1:57:06.160 --> 1:57:09.400 anyways because we're we've got Higgins and Jamar So you've 1:57:09.440 --> 1:57:11.120 got to hit every draft. 1:57:11.120 --> 1:57:12.040 You got a hit pick. 1:57:12.400 --> 1:57:14.520 And so to your point, and David and I talked 1:57:14.520 --> 1:57:18.280 about this offline, they're they're drafting group is the smallest 1:57:18.280 --> 1:57:21.400 I think in the NFL, I mean by far, and 1:57:21.960 --> 1:57:24.440 the coaches have to go out and scout. I think 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:26.960 they have like three or four scouts. You've got to 1:57:27.000 --> 1:57:29.720 build balk that up because it's just like the Cincinnati Reds. 1:57:29.920 --> 1:57:32.640 You're a small team, small market team. You've got to 1:57:32.720 --> 1:57:35.000 hit on your draft. If you don't, you're not gonna 1:57:35.000 --> 1:57:36.760 be signing to other people, you big players. 1:57:36.800 --> 1:57:38.040 You're right, You're right, man. 1:57:38.080 --> 1:57:41.000 That makes one hundred percent true because that when you 1:57:41.080 --> 1:57:47.160 send your coaching staff out to recruit and and scout, those. 1:57:47.000 --> 1:57:47.879 Guys are coaches. 1:57:48.800 --> 1:57:51.920 They're supposed to be coaching players. They shouldn't be going 1:57:51.960 --> 1:57:54.560 out looking for players to be on their team. You 1:57:54.680 --> 1:57:58.280 have your scouting department is as a handful of guys, 1:57:59.040 --> 1:57:59.920 guys that we don't know. 1:58:00.080 --> 1:58:01.400 Duke Tobin is running all that. 1:58:01.760 --> 1:58:06.320 But five guys compared to twenty five and thirty from 1:58:06.320 --> 1:58:10.440 other teams, you're not gonna win them. Five guys can 1:58:10.480 --> 1:58:13.240 only be in five places at one time. You got 1:58:13.280 --> 1:58:17.120 thirty guys from Baltimore that are over the cities looking 1:58:17.160 --> 1:58:21.480 at these these players. They're bringing in high quality players 1:58:21.880 --> 1:58:24.400 when we don't get this because we're all picking from 1:58:24.440 --> 1:58:28.520 the same group of kids every year from college. So 1:58:28.600 --> 1:58:30.800 how are these other kids doing so well from other 1:58:30.840 --> 1:58:34.080 teams in ours? Not because we're picking the wrong guys. 1:58:34.680 --> 1:58:36.360 I won't say they're picking the wrong guys, but we're 1:58:36.360 --> 1:58:40.320 just picking guys that aren't making the grade that we want. 1:58:40.440 --> 1:58:42.920 That we want to see that other teams are getting. 1:58:42.880 --> 1:58:45.000 Enough of them. You know, you get a Chase Brown. 1:58:45.480 --> 1:58:46.560 What in the fourth round? 1:58:46.720 --> 1:58:49.640 You know there are oh yeah, there are strong gold 1:58:49.680 --> 1:58:50.800 on that pick that they did. 1:58:51.000 --> 1:58:56.400 Yes, just not enough. Do we have John in Cedarville? 1:58:58.200 --> 1:59:01.600 Hello, Yes, this call will be recorded. 1:59:04.280 --> 1:59:10.520 It will appreciate the call. Uh yeah, Uh. We're winding 1:59:10.560 --> 1:59:15.640 down here. We've got about three minutes left. And as 1:59:15.760 --> 1:59:19.840 all Bengals fans are frustrated right now, they're angry, they're 1:59:19.920 --> 1:59:24.600 upset three and eight. But to me, I mean, there's 1:59:24.640 --> 1:59:27.680 there's hope here with Joe Burrow coming back. He's got 1:59:27.720 --> 1:59:30.640 to come back Thursday night, Jamar Chase is coming back. 1:59:31.600 --> 1:59:34.440 Let's give the Baltimore Ravens all they can handle on 1:59:34.520 --> 1:59:35.120 Thursday night. 1:59:35.280 --> 1:59:36.200 Thursday night is. 1:59:36.160 --> 1:59:39.920 Going to really define and see where this team it 1:59:39.960 --> 1:59:42.440 really is, whether whether this team is going to win 1:59:42.480 --> 1:59:46.400 the next eight games, seven games, whatever it is. I 1:59:46.400 --> 1:59:48.600 think it's gonna determine on what this team is going 1:59:48.640 --> 1:59:51.680 to look like in the future, because you know, guys 1:59:51.680 --> 1:59:53.720 are going to be freezings after this. There's gonna be 1:59:53.760 --> 1:59:57.560 some players that are you know, contracts may not be renewed, 1:59:59.360 --> 2:00:02.320 and you're you're fighting for a job, you're fighting for 2:00:02.360 --> 2:00:05.400 a position to be on this team. So this is 2:00:05.440 --> 2:00:10.040 the best position a football player for the Cinati Bengals 2:00:10.040 --> 2:00:12.800 could be in because it's going to show whether you're 2:00:12.800 --> 2:00:16.080 going to be here or not come Thursday. And what 2:00:16.080 --> 2:00:18.480 what a what a better team to play against to 2:00:18.520 --> 2:00:20.600 see what you got in the Baltimore Ravens. 2:00:21.560 --> 2:00:22.720 And that's what's incredible. 2:00:22.840 --> 2:00:26.560 They are now tied with the Pittsburgh Steelers atop the 2:00:26.640 --> 2:00:29.400 AFC North at six and five. 2:00:30.320 --> 2:00:33.120 The Bengals are three and eight at. 2:00:33.200 --> 2:00:36.760 Four straight losses and you're only three You're three games 2:00:36.760 --> 2:00:40.960 out of first place with six to go. It's it's 2:00:41.000 --> 2:00:45.000 it's an insurmountable mountain in the Clyde. 2:00:44.800 --> 2:00:47.360 And the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh teams haven't played yet. 2:00:47.680 --> 2:00:49.640 I don't think, No, they haven't. They still got to 2:00:49.640 --> 2:00:50.960 play each other, yes. 2:00:50.800 --> 2:00:53.600 So we those two teams are going to beat each 2:00:53.640 --> 2:00:55.760 other up, yes, and then they still got to play 2:00:55.800 --> 2:00:58.200 some other teams in the AFC. So if the Bengals 2:00:58.320 --> 2:01:01.840 and just get on, who knows what can happen. I 2:01:02.160 --> 2:01:03.840 only think that one team's gonna come out of this 2:01:03.920 --> 2:01:06.480 division for the playoffs, correct, and that's gonna be the 2:01:06.520 --> 2:01:10.080 division winner. So you know, being out three games, it 2:01:10.120 --> 2:01:12.880 could be two next week. And then Pittsburgh got to 2:01:12.880 --> 2:01:15.680 play Houston. I mean Pistburg got to play Baltimore twice. Yes, 2:01:15.760 --> 2:01:17.560 before you know it, the Bengals could be if they're 2:01:17.600 --> 2:01:21.560 winning right behind, somebody would one or two games in 2:01:21.600 --> 2:01:22.800 front of behind that team. 2:01:22.920 --> 2:01:25.360 Well, it's been an awful lot of fun here tonight. 2:01:25.400 --> 2:01:27.920 This was good man. Many thanks to Touchdown Tommy for T. 2:01:29.440 --> 2:01:33.640 And David Foulter an awesome partner and on behalf of 2:01:34.080 --> 2:01:34.840 all of us here. 2:01:35.000 --> 2:01:37.400 Oh yeah, at Wings and Rings in Milford. 2:01:37.600 --> 2:01:40.880 This is the Chickster chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening 2:01:40.960 --> 2:01:44.320 to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk presented 2:01:44.320 --> 2:01:47.440 by RNL Carriers on the hull of the Reds and 2:01:47.520 --> 2:01:50.640 the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WL