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Speaker 3: Bengals legend David Fulcher, and we're breaking down the Bengals

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Speaker 3: twenty six to twenty loss to the New England Patriots

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Speaker 3: like a wrecking ball.

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Speaker 3: calling five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand and

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Speaker 3: David Folcher. The Bengals were twenty six yards away from

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Speaker 3: pulling off a miracle upset. Yes, but it was not

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Speaker 3: man to be, as Joe Flacco's fourth and ten pass

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Speaker 3: to Mike Cassecti fell incomplete, no flag against cornerback Marcus Jones,

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Speaker 3: and the Bengals fall to three and eight with their

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Speaker 3: fourth straight loss and eighth loss in nine games, and

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots improved to ten and two with

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Speaker 3: their ninth straight victory.

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Speaker 2: It is brutal being a Bengals fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's brutal being a former Bengal when you see

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Speaker 4: your football team played the way they play. But you know,

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Speaker 4: sometimes you gotta, you've gotta, you gotta, you gotta suck

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Speaker 4: it up, man, You gotta.

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Speaker 5: Suck it up.

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Speaker 4: And you've gotta find a way to find the wins,

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Speaker 4: and you gotta keep fighting. And that's where they are

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Speaker 4: right now. Evan McPherson money Mack, money.

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Speaker 3: Mack kicks a franchise record sixty three yard field goal

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Speaker 3: on the final play of the first half. The New

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Speaker 3: England Patriots run ten plays, yes at gold to go situations,

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Speaker 3: do not score a touchdown. The Bengals defense, which is improving, yes,

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Speaker 3: hold New England to nineteen points because there was a

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Speaker 3: pick six in there. Yes, so there are signs of improvement.

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Speaker 3: But Rock, like you said when you walked in today,

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Speaker 3: close don't count there.

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Speaker 2: It don't count in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: No, it doesn't, man, And they are close.

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Speaker 4: I mean you know a player two here, we get

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Speaker 4: a pick six on defense, they get a pick six

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Speaker 4: on defense, and we still lose a game and we

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Speaker 4: only give up nineteen points. Now, we already talked about

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Speaker 4: how this team gives up so many points. This time

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Speaker 4: the offense couldn't score enough to win the game.

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Speaker 3: And without Jamar Chase, Yes, the Bengals offense had to

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Speaker 3: get creative. Okay, they got Mike Oseki back. They were

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Speaker 3: using all kinds of players, especially Chase Brown. Players started

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Speaker 3: dropping like flies with injuries on both sides. On both sides,

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Speaker 3: And there was a point in this game in the

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Speaker 3: second half where the Bengals were down to two healthy

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Speaker 3: wide receivers by the name of Mitchell Tinsley and Charlie Jones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were not healthy enough at receiver because these

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Speaker 5: But you said it.

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Speaker 4: I think in the first six plays of the game

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Speaker 5: Players from the other team that got hurt.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, we haven't even played three minutes in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Orrin Burks went down, Yes, but I believe he

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Speaker 3: Marco Wilson, corner back for the Bengals, Yes, he's out

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Speaker 3: with a hamstring injury. They lost TODs Brooks running back

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Speaker 3: with a concussion. And then later in this game, oh.

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Speaker 4: Te Higgins, Yeah, that was his head slammed against the turf.

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Speaker 2: Was brutal.

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Speaker 3: And he was taking off on the cart, not on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he lock.

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Speaker 4: He just looked a little dizzy, you know when you

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Speaker 4: So when he got up off the ground, I know,

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Speaker 4: I heard the paramedics upstairs holler that they need to

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Speaker 4: So when I heard that, I'm going, man, he's not

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Speaker 4: getting up. But then that's aw him stand up. Everything's

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Speaker 4: would be good. So concussion, But because of the short week,

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Speaker 4: he's probably not gonna play on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: How are they going to field a team on Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Night against the Baltimore Ravens at M and T

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I you know you you got

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Speaker 4: somebody in that depth chart or they gotta go to

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Speaker 4: the practice squad to bring somebody up. Man, because they're

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Speaker 4: gonna go in there and with a six shooter in

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Speaker 4: your hand and only got three bullets in it is

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Speaker 4: not enough.

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Speaker 5: Not enough.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I have to stand up here for a minute.

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Speaker 3: I'm just so fired up. He is one thing that

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Speaker 3: bothers me. And yes it's nitpicky, but body language means

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Speaker 3: a lot. Okay, And Zach Taylor standing on the sideline

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Speaker 3: hands on knees, looking ahead. It looks like he.

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Speaker 2: Wants to play. Yeah, come on, man, show some emotion.

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Speaker 4: You know what's out there. It's what's funny. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not funny like ha ha funny. But what's what's ironic

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Speaker 4: is you know, Zach Zach Taylor. He's he's starting to,

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Speaker 4: you know, be a little bit more vocal to the referees,

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Speaker 4: trying to figure these things out.

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Speaker 5: But something's got to happen.

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Speaker 4: He needs to get a fifteen yard penalty because he's

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Speaker 4: pissed off at how they're treating his football team and

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Speaker 4: sometimes where the calls are going. But you know, nice

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Speaker 4: guys in the NFL don't finish, you know what I mean, Oh,

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Speaker 4: you gotta be a bad guy as the Pittsburgh Steelis.

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Speaker 5: Why do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers get what they get?

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Speaker 4: Because they're out there trying to knock people's head off,

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Speaker 4: trying to hurt people, and the NFL acts like they're.

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Speaker 5: Scared of him.

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Speaker 2: But when you just kind of sit back and be passive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that he's a.

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Speaker 4: Passive coach, but when you're when you're one of those

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Speaker 4: it's really not okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm driving here to Milford. Love it here, Love Milford.

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Speaker 3: I was just here yesterday. Yes, I'm firing some indoor

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Speaker 2: So I love it here. But I'm on my way.

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Speaker 3: So I'm listening and I'm trying to take notes in

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Speaker 3: War Room. So when David Fulcher faux Rock walks in

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Speaker 2: Was Mike is sick?

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Speaker 3: He interfered with on the final offensive play by the

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals, no doubt, no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt was passing inference. And I think they play before

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Speaker 4: that the receiver came across the middle. It might have

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Speaker 4: been Tensley. He was also interfered, you know. But they're

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Speaker 4: not going to make those calls to change the game

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Speaker 4: late in the game. If that game, if that was

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Speaker 4: a third quarter or second quarter drive coming down, maybe,

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Speaker 4: but the officials do not want to be the catalysts

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Speaker 4: But those calls should have been made, and they weren't made,

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Speaker 4: so in a sense, it wasn't passing inference, because if

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Speaker 4: it was, they would have called it.

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Speaker 3: Five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand and you're

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Speaker 3: Ludwig alongside Faux Rock David Folter. We're here till eight

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: This is the place defense five one three, seven four nine,

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Speaker 3: Flacco is the kind.

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Speaker 2: Of guy grizzled forty year veteran who will.

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Speaker 3: Look awful in stretches and then look awesome in stretches. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so he takes a sack that takes the Bengals out

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Speaker 3: of field goal range. He throws a pick six, which

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Speaker 3: He double clutches and then throws it anyway, I mean

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Speaker 3: telegraphing that throw to Marcus Jones for an.

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Speaker 2: Easy pick six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Then how about the first drive here in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, Bengals have it third and one at their

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Speaker 2: They line up. I'm thinking they're going for it.

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Speaker 3: Penalty on Cincinnati jilay of game and they have to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what is going on? You know?

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Speaker 4: I tell you, man, it's so hard to it's hard

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Speaker 4: to be a fan. It's hard to be a former

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Speaker 4: player because you just asked yourself some of the some

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Speaker 4: of the scenarios just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: If you were you gonna go for it on fourth

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Speaker 4: What I hate about watching this offense, outside of them

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Speaker 4: throwing the football to Chase and Higgins and those guys,

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Speaker 2: Third and one, we're still in a shotgun.

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Speaker 4: We got to run five yards just to get back

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Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmage. They did one thing today

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Speaker 4: to short yardage. Flackle had a quarterback and got four

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Speaker 4: yards on that quarterback sneak we need a third and one,

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Speaker 4: and he goes either third and one or fourth and one,

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Speaker 4: and he goes for it and he gets four yards.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, well, why don't you do that all

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Speaker 4: the time on third and short. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 4: I know you don't want your quarterback getting hurt, but

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Speaker 4: I think you have a better chance of getting a

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Speaker 4: first down when it's third and one and your quarterback

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Speaker 4: six yards from the line of scrimmage and he hands

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Speaker 5: That's hard to do. And I saw that today and

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Speaker 3: Jeff is in dry Ridge. He leads us off tonight, Jeff,

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I am.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, sir?

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Speaker 8: I've been watching the Bengals. You're my all time favorite,

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Speaker 4: Well, I wish I wish they had somebody on the

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Speaker 5: Were so.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely with it. But that said, Jick, do you live

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Speaker 2: No, I live in Miamisburg. But I'm here a lot man.

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Speaker 3: I ref and I umpire all over all over.

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Speaker 8: Have you ever eaten the Mayti restaurant?

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Speaker 8: Uh fabulous tiphoon, unbelievable, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: we could clone David Fulcher.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you we did. I did clone one

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Speaker 5: So it's all good.

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Speaker 10: he's part of it, every part of it should go.

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Speaker 10: There's They're terrible drafting every year. I beat him that

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Speaker 8: Just couldn't do that way.

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Speaker 3: tester shoh, thank you very much. John is in Mason, Hi, John, Okay?

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Speaker 3: How about Lee in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 11: Hey, gentlemen, y'all doing today?

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Speaker 2: We are good, sir? How are you?

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Speaker 12: I'm doing pretty good?

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Speaker 13: I gotta, I gotta.

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Speaker 14: Bit, man.

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Speaker 12: You know, I'm praying and I'm hoping that Mike Brown

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Speaker 12: Lee what have you done for me lately? So with

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Speaker 15: Get We're gonna make that ls LSU connection with Joe.

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Speaker 12: Burrow, Jamar Chase and that Joe Brady.

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Speaker 14: I'm just looking for Mike Brown.

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Speaker 12: To take that jump and go ahead him, you.

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Speaker 9: Know, tell Zach Taylor to kick Hey.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you something, man, I know for a

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Speaker 5: Get out of here.

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Speaker 4: But I don't even even watching the Bengals, firing coaches

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Speaker 5: But it does make sense.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it does make sense, because I know Brady's

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Speaker 5: They're not that far off from that.

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Speaker 4: The problem is, though, is that when guys get hurt

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Speaker 5: The defense that we.

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I agree.

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Speaker 16: Now, what do y'all feel like?

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Speaker 12: I heard what y'all talking about Joe Flacco and me personally,

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Speaker 12: I feel like he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do.

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Speaker 9: Foolish people.

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Speaker 12: I don't mean to call him foolish, but they whispering that.

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Speaker 14: Joe Flacco just might be better than Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 9: You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: So with that being the case, Joe Burrow is coming

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Speaker 9: You feel what I'm saying. So that's just my take

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would, I would say chick when you start

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Speaker 4: talking about Flacco coming in here. The Flaco coming to

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Speaker 4: Flaco came in here with experience, experience and controlling. Joe

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Speaker 5: But when you try.

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Speaker 4: the games before that, we had too many problems yet

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Speaker 4: winnable game because the defense can.

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Speaker 2: Be scores down.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we just scored enough today to beat the team today.

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Speaker 2: We just scored enough a week ago to beat Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: But that's that's offensively and that those things need to

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Speaker 2: And Lee, we've got to run. Appreciate the appreciation league over.

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Speaker 17: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Troy in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 17: Hey, how you guys doing all right?

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Speaker 2: Droyd?

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Speaker 5: We're good?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Yeah, it's just depressing, you know, as a fan

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Speaker 17: And the defense can't stop nobody.

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Speaker 15: Or like the last two games, the defense is played

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Speaker 15: halfway defense. I just want to why they didn't play Burrow.

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Speaker 15: I know it's a short week, but put him in

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Speaker 15: and he wants to play them.

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Speaker 9: And the division is still up.

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Speaker 17: For grabs, and that's the bad thing about it.

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Speaker 15: Like the division ain't that strong this year. And you know,

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Speaker 17: Today, so now it's like they're six and five for

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Speaker 15: Won today, they could have been four and seven, So

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Speaker 15: it's just frustrating that.

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Speaker 17: You know, like of all years and all.

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Speaker 15: The players that they had contract issues with, Henderson, Higgins

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Speaker 17: So you got four players.

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Speaker 15: So just wondering why they should just win, haying with

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Speaker 4: Hey, I was a little I was a little shocked

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Speaker 4: they're in a bad shape, but Joe Burrow is still

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Speaker 5: This football team.

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Speaker 4: If a lionan gets hurt, if a running back gets hurt,

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Speaker 2: He is part of the football team and no.

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Speaker 4: Matter what happens, win or lose, to have your best

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Speaker 18: Top being a Bengals fan, David Fulcher, never would have

444
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Speaker 18: thought they'd be three and eight never, you know, not

445
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Speaker 18: what the players that they've got, It just it baffles

446
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Speaker 18: me there with three and eight.

447
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Speaker 2: Take away the Bengals.

448
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Speaker 3: Pick six that they scored on and you got to

449
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Speaker 3: give it up for Geno Stone on the interception and

450
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Speaker 3: the thirty three yard run to the end zone that

451
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Speaker 3: dave the Bengals ay ten to nothing lead.

452
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought we I thought we got out there

453
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 4: too early, man, because that's all that ten nothing, And

454
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 4: all I thought about was is can we maintain this

455
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Speaker 4: or get better from it?

456
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Speaker 5: And we did not.

457
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Speaker 3: Ten drives for the Bengals in this game, five punts,

458
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Speaker 3: two field goals, one touchdown, an interception, and the game

459
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Speaker 3: ends on downs down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was chick.

461
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Speaker 2: You know.

462
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Speaker 4: We we can analyze and look at why they're they're

463
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 4: they're bad at times. They they've never really played a

464
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: complete football game. Million offense, defense, special teams. It's been

465
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Speaker 4: one one one of those three phases has been much

466
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Speaker 4: higher than the other two. And today was a perfect

467
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Speaker 4: day because I'm telling you, I I at the beginning

468
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Speaker 4: of that game, and I'm watching this quarterback for the

469
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Speaker 4: New England Patriots, Trake May, and all of his statistics

470
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Speaker 4: and all these conversations about is he in the MVP conversation?

471
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Speaker 4: And I didn't see that today. I didn't see this

472
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Speaker 4: guy who was so spectacular today.

473
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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, you know what, man, we got a chance.

474
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Speaker 4: We've got a chance if our offense just scored the

475
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Speaker 4: points to do what they've been doing. We got a

476
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Speaker 4: chance because they looked like the defense had them where

477
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: they wanted them. And then all of a sudden, the

478
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: one flew over the cuckoo's nest, let the bird.

479
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Speaker 2: Out, and the bird took off.

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Speaker 3: That's right, twenty six to twenty final Bengals were up

481
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: ten to nothing. They get outscored twenty six to ten. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Let's go out to the phones. Tiffany, are you there?

483
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm here.

484
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Speaker 2: Hello, Tiffany, welcome the seven hundred wl.

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Speaker 19: W thank you on our way back home from watching

486
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 19: that horrible loss. Then season ticket holders for a while.

487
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Speaker 19: My question is, and this kind of follows up to

488
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Speaker 19: what was previously talked about, at what point I know

489
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 19: you want your star players out there you want to

490
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 19: see Joe Burrow back, and we were hoping that we

491
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 19: were going to see that today, which of course didn't happen.

492
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Speaker 19: But now that we've got that loss, and it just

493
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Speaker 19: seems like that season is coming more and more to

494
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Speaker 19: where we're not going to come back from it. I mean,

495
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Speaker 19: you basically have to have a perfect record from this

496
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Speaker 19: point forward. At what point do you not play Joe Burrow,

497
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Speaker 19: Jamaar T. I know those are going to be hard

498
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Speaker 19: conversations because all those guys are so competitive, and you

499
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 19: know you want to see them out there, You want

500
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Speaker 19: to see them when at all costs. But at what

501
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Speaker 19: point do you say let's not because of the injuries?

502
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Speaker 19: I mean, like what happened with T today? Well, I

503
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Speaker 19: mean just your thoughts on that when because if you lose,

504
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 19: you get higher draft picks and you want to have

505
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 19: a better season next year. So at what point do

506
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 19: you say let's not and just kind of see what

507
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Speaker 19: we can get going for next season?

508
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: At this point, well, as a player, if I'm out

509
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: there playing and busting my butt weekend and week out,

510
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 4: win or lose, and right now we're losing, and then

511
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: I've got the franchise quarterback who is coming off of

512
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: injury and he looks like he's good enough to play.

513
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: He should be out there balling with me.

514
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 4: Whether we win or lose, he should still be out

515
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: there balloing. And I know sometimes people go, well, you know,

516
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: there's no reason for him to play.

517
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: Well, there is a reason. There's like four million dollars

518
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 5: a game reason that he should be playing.

519
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Fifty million reasons.

520
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty million reasons.

521
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: So yes, Joe Burrow, if he's able to play, he

522
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: should play. I thought Joe was going to play because

523
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: I think during the week he took all of the

524
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 4: number one snaps because Flacco's shoulder was bothering. And that

525
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: told me one thing that this guy is ready to

526
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: go and he wants to play.

527
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Speaker 2: People say short week.

528
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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter to me if we had to play

529
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: a game tomorrow and the rest of those guys are

530
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: out there playing tomorrow, So why can't Joe Burrow do it?

531
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Speaker 4: So I would say Joe Burrow should play. If he's

532
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: available to play, he should play, and he should play

533
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Speaker 4: for the rest of the year as long as he

534
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: is able to play.

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Speaker 2: Tiffany, we appreciate the call. Yes, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on. Rick, are you with us? Rick?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

539
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Speaker 9: Rick?

540
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: Are you?

541
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Speaker 9: Oh? How ya? I'm doing? Jentlemen, I'm up saying about that.

542
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 9: You see, you see how you see to have had it.

543
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 9: They gave over the bye yesterday, you know against l J.

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00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: Mark say, monster, an absolute monster, rushing for two hundred

545
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: and twenty two yards?

546
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

547
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: And Bear from Blackbyer was awesome too, they they they

548
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: hogged the ball for forty minutes in that game.

549
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: B Yu was awesome.

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00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 7: But when that quab when the quarterback got hurt, and

551
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 7: uh and I guess Sube Suebrie and you see is

552
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 7: alive and well, because they could have just run over

553
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 7: that team without that, I mean they lost their their quarterback.

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Speaker 9: And see what all they had to do was just

555
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Speaker 9: stop the run. You know, all they had to do

556
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 9: was just you know, Russia, Russia, Russia Russell and uh.

557
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Speaker 20: They could have flipped that score. I said that they

558
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 20: just handed the game with the bay was like they

559
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 20: fell sorry for him, you know, yeah, the quarterback we

560
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 20: feel sorry for.

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Speaker 9: You know, that's what it looked like.

562
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Speaker 2: You know, special teams murdered U see last night?

563
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Speaker 9: I know I know. Hey, hey I know you have

564
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 9: three three field goals.

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Speaker 5: This you're right, you know, right, right, right.

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Speaker 20: But but besides that, uh, that b why you lost

567
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 20: the quarterback. I mean they put themselves on the silver platter,

568
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 20: you see. I mean that was a gift that gave

569
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 20: would should have been a gift they had no quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Rick, Rick, you called w l W last night, which

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Speaker 3: I appreciate, and you said, if Evan Pryor plays in

572
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 3: this game, you see wins.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I love Evan Pryor, former Buckeye, now a bear Cat.

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Speaker 2: I love him. He was awesome.

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Speaker 3: But you see, did not sustain any momentum. They only

577
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: had the ball for twenty minutes in that thing. Yes,

578
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: they came back at the end, but then Pyu scored

579
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: again late, so we got to move on here we're

580
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: talking Bengals football. We appreciate the call.

581
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Speaker 2: George, Are you there?

582
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Speaker 16: Yes, I'm here.

583
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Speaker 9: How you doing taking advance of my call?

584
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: All right?

585
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 12: That?

586
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Speaker 16: Uh, first time caller that I think the Bengals had

587
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 16: a key game because you showed without the key players

588
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 16: for he came. The Bengals lost that game in the

589
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 16: first half when the coach did not kick that field goal.

590
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 16: That field goal would have left him with three points

591
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 16: and they came back. They would have in the last

592
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 16: twenty six second of the game, they could have won.

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Speaker 16: But that's my take on it, and I'd like to

594
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 16: hear you what y'all think about that.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was critical, Yes, that did. You took

597
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: a sack. I know it took him. They were there

598
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: would have been a fifty two yard field goal, fifty

599
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: two or fifty three. You were with the thirty five

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00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: yard line and you take what a twelve yard sack

601
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: and it kills you.

602
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: And you know what, we also coaches always tell your.

603
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: Quarter back, man, you got.

604
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 9: Right overdid this game?

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Speaker 21: I think he got He got to goggles thinking that

606
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Speaker 21: that score, that touchdown to win that game out instead

607
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 21: of playing statistic in the football game, don't go that

608
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 21: far down, take the three and you had a whole

609
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 21: second and a half to come back.

610
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Speaker 22: They'd have got there.

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Speaker 16: They'd have been three points down because he got one

612
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 16: of the beast kickings in the league.

613
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Speaker 3: And don't beat well and so does uh talking about

614
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: great kickers, New England's got one too, andres Bori Dallas

615
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: four for four man he busts a fifty two yarder man,

616
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: he misses that the Bengals are in prime position yet

617
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: two either kick the game time field goal or win

618
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 13: That they would be they would have did that. I

620
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 13: think you.

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Speaker 21: Should have just did three points that that I had

622
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 21: come back and they would have been down.

623
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Speaker 8: And so they.

624
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 20: Alright, that's my FA.

625
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 13: Appreciate the call.

626
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Speaker 2: All right, George, I appreciate the call. Uh. Do we

627
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: have Andre in Cincinnati? Is Andre there?

628
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Speaker 6: Yes?

629
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Speaker 5: I am, Hey Andre?

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Speaker 2: How you doing? Man?

631
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Speaker 17: Hey, I'm doing all right.

632
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 6: How you gentlemen doing?

633
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 5: We are doing good?

634
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: Exceptionally?

635
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 5: What I just I just got one thing to say.

636
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: You know, Joe ain't playing.

637
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 9: Let's let's just go ahead and trade him. With what

638
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 9: we got invested into him.

639
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 23: We can show up a defense and offense and we

640
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 23: can get a mediocre quarterback. Uh, pick one, Kirk Cousins,

641
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 23: any one of them that will come in.

642
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: No, No, and no, we need a franchise quarterback.

643
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: The Bengals have one. They've got to improve all aspects

644
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: of this, of this offense and defense.

645
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, and if you trade Joe, you can

646
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 9: do that.

647
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: No, ask the Cleveland Browns, why would you Why would

648
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: you trade your franchise quarterback.

649
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 9: I mean you're trading because you trying to win.

650
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 23: I mean, if you trade Joe and you got and

651
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 23: you can show up your offense and your defense, and

652
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 23: you can go and get a Kirk Cousins, one of

653
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 23: them type of quarterbacks like him.

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00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 9: You do, Hey, look look at this.

655
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Speaker 23: You score eighty points in two games and lost both

656
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 23: of them.

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00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: Well, you don't want to get rid of your eighty points.

658
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: You just need to improve your defense.

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Speaker 22: Don't want to get rid of your eighty points.

660
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: But if you get rid of Joe, now your eighty

661
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: points become twenty, and then you're still giving up.

662
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 5: You might be giving up sixty on defense.

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Speaker 23: But if you get rid of Joe and you sure

664
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Speaker 23: up your defense, you might not be giving up but three.

665
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Speaker 4: So my question is, so to have Joe Burrow and

666
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: the offense that we have, So is it Joe Burrow

667
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Speaker 4: getting rid of him to show up your defense? Is

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Speaker 4: it your scouting department that don't know what they're doing

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Speaker 4: to make that defense?

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Speaker 23: You go, the scouting department don't know what they're doing.

671
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Speaker 4: Okay, so let's get rid of the Let's get rid

672
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Speaker 4: of the guy that's running the scouting department and see

673
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: what happens there.

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00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to get rid of Joe Burrow and

675
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: and I've.

676
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 6: Got a lot to keep Joe.

677
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 23: But I'm just saying to shure up your defense and

678
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 23: your offense.

679
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 9: You can you can do.

680
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: You can do Jeff as good.

681
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 23: I mean, Joel is a great quarterback. I'm not taking

682
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 23: that away from him. But if you can trade Joe

683
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 23: to like the Jeff, the Jeff got a.

684
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Speaker 9: One hundred and five first round pieck.

685
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Speaker 4: Andre appreciate it. Call, appreciate call. We gotta move on.

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Speaker 3: We are live at Wings and Rings fifty eight oh

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Speaker 3: l W listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame

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Speaker 2: And it's gotta be. With four forty to go in

698
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Speaker 2: this game, Joe.

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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: Flacco throws a seventeen yard pass to Mitchell Tinsley, bringing

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00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: the Bengals within twenty three to twenty.

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Yes, with four forty to go, and we're automatically.

702
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: Thinking, if they can get the ball back, maybe tye

703
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: or win this game. Yep, they came within twenty six

704
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: yards of pulling off a miracle that didn't happen.

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00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: They had a shot man.

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00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: This was a when tod game started, I didn't think

707
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: that the Bengals had a chance to beat New England

708
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: because New England come in here playing some pretty good football.

709
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: But we had a shot. We had a shot man.

710
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 5: That's all you asked.

711
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: As a player, all you want to ask is give

712
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: me a chance, give us a shot, and they have one.

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: Hey, let's go out to the phone. Said welcome in,

714
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: Kurt and Mason, Kurt, are you.

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00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 24: There, Yes, sir mister Ludwick, mister Fulter, thanks for the opportunity.

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00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 24: I answer a question for me. If the head coach

717
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 24: is calling the plays, what does the offensive coordinat or

718
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 24: do I'm just so frustrated. I saw two or three

719
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 24: plays a day where we were third and one and

720
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 24: we predictably passed. I don't understand why we're passing on

721
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 24: third and one. Help me understand that.

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00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 4: Wow, I say the same thing man, third and one.

723
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: I saw one play where we were third and one,

724
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: fourth and one, wherever it was, and Joe Flacco got

725
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: on the center and they pushed the pile for three yards.

726
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: And I'm staying on myself. I know third and one.

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00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: If you were in a position where you have to

728
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: go four down territory, I could see them doing something

729
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: on third and one and trying to get five or

730
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Speaker 4: six yards, and then you come back on fourth down

731
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Speaker 4: and you run the ball forward to get the first down.

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Speaker 5: I don't know you said it right, man.

733
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Speaker 4: Play calling, it's almost like, you know, I almost want

734
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 4: to call it, like being a bully. I'm the head coach,

735
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: so I can call plays. I can do what I

736
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Speaker 4: want to do. And I got an offensive coordinator there,

737
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Speaker 4: and I think that's what happened with Callahan. When Callahan

738
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 4: was here, He's the offensive coordinator, and all of a sudden,

739
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: that job came available in Tennessee, so he took the

740
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: job in Tennessee. But I don't think head coaches should

741
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: be calling plays. That's why if you got an offensive

742
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: coordinator on your staff, his job is to coordinate the offense.

743
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: The head coach job is.

744
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: To get the football team ready to play on game

745
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: day during the week. But the offensive coordinator, tod fensive coordinator,

746
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: that's their job to get their teams ready to play

747
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: on Sunday.

748
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: The question was about a third passing on third and one.

749
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Speaker 5: Yes, okay?

750
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Speaker 3: To me, I translated that by this, we're going forward

751
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: on fourth down. If we don't get it on third down,

752
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: that's why we're gonna pass, So we're gonna run the

753
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: ball and get that one yard.

754
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

755
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: So with thirteen ten left in this game, it's third

756
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 3: and one, they pass incomplete to Chase Brown, so I'm thinking, okay,

757
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna go forward on fourth They line up and

758
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: then have a delay up day.

759
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: How in the world does that happen?

760
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: I think that's coming because I can sit there and

761
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: you can watch Flacco.

762
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 2: He's getting to play. Call in too late.

763
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Speaker 4: But I don't even know if the Bengals were gonna

764
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: go forward on fourth down where they trying to get

765
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: the team to jump off side, where they trying to

766
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Speaker 4: get New.

767
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Speaker 5: England and jump off side.

768
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Speaker 4: But when you're going third, when it's fourth down and

769
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Speaker 4: one and you're lining up to go fourth down Ford

770
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Speaker 4: on fourth down and one and you have a delayed game, Well,

771
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Speaker 4: what was your reason for doing that?

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Speaker 8: No?

773
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Speaker 5: You shet it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least at least make them jump off

775
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: side or give them some hut hut or do something crazy.

776
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Speaker 5: But you get up there and you got a delay

777
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 5: a game.

778
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 4: Now you have to punt on fourth and sixth unbelievable,

779
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: just unbelievable.

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Speaker 24: Well on on fourth, on third and one, it doesn't

781
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 24: matter who the quarterback is going to be. It's it's

782
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 24: all a coaching call right there. So you know, it's

783
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 24: just sad to me that we I mean, if you

784
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 24: got third and one, if you don't make it on

785
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 24: the first one, then you got a better chance of

786
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 24: getting it on fourth, you know. I then you're putting

787
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 24: if you go pass and and probabilities lower of making

788
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 24: that it's just fourth and one, then you're putting all

789
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 24: your marbles there. I just it's it's a coaching problem.

790
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Speaker 24: I don't think that it's a it's a quarterback problem.

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Speaker 3: Kurt, and we got a run. We appreciate the call

792
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: to me. How about the novelty of calling two plays?

793
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: If we don't get it on third down, we're running

794
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: it quickly on fourth down, so we don't have a

795
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: delay of game.

796
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: Get up there really quick, four down and go.

797
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: That's right, it's exactly right.

798
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Uh, let's stick with the phones here. Bronni in Greenville?

799
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Speaker 2: Are you there?

800
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Speaker 17: Yes, I am all right, home of.

801
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Speaker 2: Made Right Sandwiches.

802
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 25: Yeah, that's Greenville, Ohio.

803
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 6: How you guys doing.

804
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: We are well, besides getting our butts kicked again today,

805
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: we're doing Okay.

806
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Were it up tonight? We're breathing.

807
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: We're breathing.

808
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 6: Oh well, I was.

809
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 13: I was just playing golf today.

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00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 9: Listen.

811
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: There's golf to be played, in tennis to be served,

812
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: according to the late Great Sam.

813
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Wish, and leaves to be raped. What Sunday afternoon.

814
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 14: My question is you, guys, what what point you fired

815
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 14: the coach?

816
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: What point do you decide to fire the coach?

817
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: Well, yes, as a as a Bengals fan, as a coach,

818
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: as a being around Mike Brown, I'm not sure.

819
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that. I don't think it will happen.

820
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 5: I don't.

821
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: I don't think it would happen because I think Mike

822
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: Brown is not that kind of owner that would like

823
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 4: to fire people during the season. He's extremely patient. He's

824
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: a very patient man with because his.

825
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: Dad got knifed by Art Modell after the nineteen sixty

826
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: two seasons, so he is very.

827
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Patient with coaches.

828
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: However, Dave Schuler was gone on at midseason, Dave Schuan Okay,

829
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: and Bruce Coslet resigned in nineteen ninety.

830
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: Nine season after getting a thirty seven to nothing whooping

831
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: yes in Baltimore.

832
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and didn't Bill Tiger Johnson get removed in favor

833
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: of Homer Rice in season.

834
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: So it has happened.

835
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I don't don't. I really don't know.

836
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that need to be moved

837
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: in and out of this franchise. I was talking off

838
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: the air about we don't have a general manager.

839
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 5: We need a general manager.

840
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: We need somebody to run the football operations, not let

841
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: the coach run the football operations. And when you get that,

842
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna get wins, You're gonna get things happening.

843
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 5: We need more scouts.

844
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: The only scouts that we have on the Bengals staff

845
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: are the coaches. I even request of being a scout

846
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: for the Bengals. I don't think I know.

847
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I know a little bit about football.

848
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know anything about nothing else.

849
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: But I think I can go out and scout a

850
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: player and then come back and say, hey, this guy

851
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 4: has a very good motor. But when you have seven

852
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: coaches who are your scouts and your coaching staff, you're

853
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: you're you're You're asking those guys to do a whole lot,

854
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: and they too need sleep, And if they don't get

855
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: enough sleep, who knows what they're looking at?

856
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: So when is enough enough?

857
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: Well, we're talking about the Cincinnati Bengals and Mike Brown.

858
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm not sure where that's gonna go.

859
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: Hey, appreciate the call. We gotta move on, Mike is Than.

860
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 9: I appreciate appreciation.

861
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: Mike is in lost saton to this.

862
00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 14: My bad full Rockefello Angelino. But it's not just your full.

863
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 5: All right, you're doing, my brother, what's happening?

864
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: What's happening? Arizona State University?

865
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: There we go four time, all Americas four time.

866
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 14: Not too many of the proud, proud, proud native son

867
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 14: of the City of Angels right there.

868
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, City of Angels Man, Holly Wood.

869
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 6: That's it.

870
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 14: I'm down and uh, I'm living in Manhattan. Now get

871
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 14: nice down here. I'm very grateful, David. Uh, I got

872
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 14: a Well, I'm down at the stadium on my TOEFI now,

873
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 14: well the band I'm with fourteen other disabled Vietnam vets

874
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 14: and they were kind enough to bring us down to

875
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 14: the game tonight, and hopefully we'll have some good seats.

876
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 14: But even if we don't, we're grateful and they brought

877
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 14: us down. And this place is rocket Man, and there

878
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 14: ain't too many bucks. I don't. I don't. I haven't

879
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 14: won in the stadium yet. We're getting ready to. But

880
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 14: I don't see too many bucks Man, So that's okay

881
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 14: with me. Well, I don't need any books, but I

882
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 14: got a kick out and listening to Marvin on the

883
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 14: h This was one of the few times I didn't

884
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 14: listen to Dan and Dave. I listened to.

885
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 24: I wanted to hear Marvin.

886
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 14: I hadn't heard Marvin as an analyst on a football

887
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 14: game before, and boy.

888
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 6: Was he good.

889
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Speaker 14: And two specific points that he brought up, David Culture

890
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 14: or number one late in the game when the Bengals

891
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 14: had one time because this was notorious for Zach Killer

892
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 14: with these clock management crap. Yes he there was late

893
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 14: in the game, and Marvin even said, why is he

894
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 14: calling the time out? Just push push, push, get up

895
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 14: to the ball, call a play, don't burn your time out.

896
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 14: That pissed him off, excuse my language. And then the

897
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 14: other thing was exactly what you just said about the

898
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 14: dbs aren't turning their heads around. Now you could tell

899
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 14: Marvin was irritated, Dave. So your comments on those two

900
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 14: iss I brought up, sir plate.

901
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I was always told that if

902
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: you watch, if you're covering the receiver and I cover

903
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 4: tight ends and running backs out the backfield, you can

904
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: tell when the ball is coming because their eyes get

905
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: really big, they get really big and wide. So as

906
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm running down the field, the guys just if he's

907
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: just running down the field just to be running, I

908
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: don't think that's happening. So when that when his eyes

909
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 4: are getting wide checked, that means something's happening, something's coming it.

910
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 2: He improves his speed and his speed gets a little

911
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: bit faster.

912
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: Yes, turn your head around.

913
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: My corners.

914
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 4: When I played Eric Thomas, Solomon Wilcox at safety, Louis

915
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 4: Billups rest rest in peace. Yes, I played with Lewis Breton.

916
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: I played with the Ray Horton. I played with some

917
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: guys that when that ball was in the air, they

918
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: knew it was coming. Yes, they turned their heads around,

919
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 4: they found the foot ball, and then they make a play.

920
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: For some reason.

921
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: Today, I don't know if it's the NFL, but not

922
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 4: too many corners turn their heads. They just keep running

923
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: and pay attention to the receiver and then throw their hands.

924
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 5: Up and knock the ball down.

925
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 4: But ninety percent of the time it's a pass and

926
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: inference call, and you can't win like that.

927
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 14: So, Dave, what you're telling me is that you're really

928
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 14: playing your position correctly. You're actually looking at this receiver's

929
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 14: eyeballs and and you're paying that close of attention to

930
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 14: him right as opposed to the quarterback or anybody else.

931
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: You're paying attention.

932
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: If I'm playing man and man on somebody, I'm paying

933
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: attention to that guy throughout the whole entire route. I

934
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: don't look back at the quarterback I don't look anywhere

935
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 4: else when I'm looking at him the whole time. And

936
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: when I'm watching him, he's going to tell me where

937
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 4: I should be and what should be happening when his

938
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: i get big, And that proves coming out when his

939
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: eyes get big, man, and all of a sudden he

940
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: goes from a four to seven to a four to three.

941
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 5: That means I'm gonna put on my spe so I

942
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 5: can catch him.

943
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, Kevin Greens, you have a great time.

944
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: Thanks at the ball game, and all the all the

945
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: best to you, man, Thank you.

946
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: Hey.

947
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: We've got Mark and Jeff and Dick and Bryce and Jason.

948
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: Man, we're gonna get to every one of your calls.

949
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: Bengals fall today twenty six to twenty to fall to

950
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: three and eight, and the New England Patriots improved to

951
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: ten and two with their ninth straight win. And we're

952
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: live at Wings and Rings in Milford, and you're listening

953
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 3: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented

954
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Speaker 3: by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW. Welcome back to

955
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 3: the Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented

956
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: by RNL Carriers.

957
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: He's David Folter, This is Chick Ludwig.

958
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: We're live and Wings and Rings fifty eighth nine Smizoor

959
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: Road in Milford, and you're listening to the Tri State

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00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. I've

961
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: got my coffee, I've got my computer. All I need

962
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: is you at five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand.

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00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: Awesome to be with Faux Rock today and Rock Let's

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Speaker 2: Passion Loves Company.

969
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: And once again, there was only one offensive touchdown by

970
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: our Cincinnati Bengals. Four plays, seventy one yards. It took

971
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: up one minute and fifteen seconds. It happened at the

972
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: four to forty mark of the fourth order, Joe Flacco

973
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: to Mitchell Tinsley, pulling.

974
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: The Bengals within twenty three to twenty. It wasn't enough.

975
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: I'll tell you one thing, though, I thought.

976
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 4: I thought Tinsley would be more involved not having Chase

977
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: in the game, so I thought that he would be

978
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: a big target because the boy catches everything that's thrown

979
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: to him, you know, and for some reason there was

980
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: only a couple of passes thrown to him. But I'm

981
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 4: telling you, man, it's very frustrating because there's too much

982
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 4: talent on this football team not to be with a

983
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: better record than what we got right now.

984
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: Totally agree, Totally agree.

985
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: Let's go out to the phone, said, welcome in, my buddy,

986
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: Bryce and Anderson.

987
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: Bryce, what do you think today.

988
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 26: The Bengals? Man, they just cannot get done today again,

989
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 26: and they will need to make some adjustments with really fast,

990
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 26: especially with the short week ahead against a hot rave

991
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 26: And see when a five game win.

992
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: Street, no doubt, man, the Ravens.

993
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: They play three consecutive home games starting today with the

994
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: New York Jets, so they're in position to really seize

995
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: control of this division. And like I said a couple

996
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, the Bengals launch a new career. A

997
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 3: star is born in Caleb Williams.

998
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: Yes, how many players to the Bengals cause to blossom?

999
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 5: Okay? And Caleb Williams right now, man is.

1000
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: Playing hot and it all started in Cincinnati. Unbelievable. Didn't

1001
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: we do that?

1002
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: They're like the name Brett Favare yi ago, Yeah, I

1003
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: remember being on that field nineteen ninety two.

1004
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: I remember when the Bengals knocked out Don Mkowski.

1005
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: Yep, Don Mkowski, and Don came the second year player

1006
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: from Southern Mississippi who got traded in the season from

1007
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Falcons.

1008
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 25: Yep.

1009
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: And do you know that Mike Holmgren going into that

1010
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: game head coach of the Packers yeh and two.

1011
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: Dave Schuler was two and oher.

1012
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: And Mike Holmgren told us I didn't think I would

1013
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: win a game.

1014
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: They were zero to two.

1015
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: Carl Pickens runs back a punch for a touchdown, the

1016
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: Bengals knockout Don Mkowski.

1017
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: I remember him.

1018
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: I was on that field in.

1019
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 2: The final minute of the game.

1020
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: You knew who caught the winning touchdown pass from Brett

1021
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: Farv kid Trick Taylor.

1022
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: Yes, And the Green.

1023
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: Bay Packers upset the Cincinnati Bengals, and then Farv goes

1024
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: on to start like the next thousand games and then

1025
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: turn out to be the quarterback that he is a

1026
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer based off of what we did for him.

1027
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. He owes the Bengals. He does time,

1028
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: big time anyway, Bryce, it's always good hearing from you, man,

1029
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: how are you?

1030
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 26: I'm great? And just the Bengals though, for defense was

1031
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 26: just good at the start, keeping up with his Patriots

1032
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 26: offense straight a NDP con tender, doing all these great things.

1033
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 26: And he just throw the pick six the Gino still

1034
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 26: he's been struggling tackling the guys recently, and you get that,

1035
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 26: and it's just so much momentum. And then Joe Blacko

1036
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 26: just throws an interception big six of his own. Yep,

1037
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 26: DeMarcus Jones in the past, never looks back.

1038
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: And both were thirty three yard returns. Is that an

1039
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: incredible And that's what number I wore, Number thirty three,

1040
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: David Fulcher, Bryce, You're exactly Ryce.

1041
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: They gotta make some changes, they gotta.

1042
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: Keep the defense has to keep improving, and then the

1043
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: offense get your weapons back.

1044
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: You miss Jamar Chase today?

1045
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: Yes, they big time, Yes they did. I think have

1046
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: made a difference today. He could have made a difference today, Oh,

1047
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 4: no doubt, because Flacco stood back there quite a few

1048
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 4: times and didn't know who he was gonna throw it to.

1049
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: Nobody's getting wide open, nobody's getting open. And I know

1050
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: number one is always open. Yes, that's what he told me.

1051
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: Well, Bryce, appreciate the call, Thank you very much. Do

1052
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: we have Chason in Williamstown?

1053
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: Okay? How about Mark and Florence our good buddy. Yeah,

1054
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: how's it going?

1055
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 27: I gotta I gotta Dave Fultzer question, Yes, sir, Okay.

1056
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 27: The way I see the Bengals run their offense, you

1057
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 27: rarely see tight ends going across the middle of the field.

1058
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 27: As a dB, wouldn't that be easy to cover the

1059
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 27: Bengals received when they go out on their routes. If

1060
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 27: you know you don't have to worry about the middle

1061
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 27: of the field.

1062
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 4: Well, if you're if you're playing man and man and

1063
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: we call some man and man's have a one high safety,

1064
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 4: I mean he's in the middle of the field. Anybody

1065
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: throws the ball down the middle of the field, he

1066
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: can help either left or right. But for us, it

1067
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 4: just seemed like there's there's always somebody Why do.

1068
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 27: Yeah, I know this, I know this on I know

1069
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 27: this on offense. A lot of they passing plays or

1070
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 27: to the sideline. I hardly ever, sometimes you see the

1071
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 27: tight end down the middle of the field, but.

1072
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 9: You don't see it A lot and I just always.

1073
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: Wondered about that.

1074
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 14: Why why doesn't he use why doesn't.

1075
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: He use the tight ends more over the middle.

1076
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 6: Of the field.

1077
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 9: I think that would that would open up things.

1078
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 4: I think I think other teams cover that they've covered

1079
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: the middle of the field. Yeah, because when you look

1080
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: at the Bengals covering the middle of the field, there's

1081
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: nobody in the middle of the field. The linebackers are

1082
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: six yards deep or they're twenty yards deep, and the

1083
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 4: ball is thrown in front of them. So that's why

1084
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 4: you keep seeing all these wide these tight ends catching

1085
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: balls in the middle of the field. For us, our

1086
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: receivers and tight ends, when they go across the middle,

1087
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: they're being covered because the linebackers are dropping, the safeties

1088
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: are coming up and helping on the receivers that are

1089
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: coming across the middle.

1090
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 5: So your only.

1091
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: Best bet you've got is the sideline, So they're throwing

1092
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: the ball to the sideline. We just I don't understand

1093
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 4: how everybody else can throw the ball in the middle

1094
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: of the field against us, but we can't do that

1095
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 4: on them.

1096
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: And Mark, with that, we've reached the top of the

1097
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: seven o'clock hour break, really appreciate you man. Thank you,

1098
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: but you are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers

1099
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

1100
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig.

1101
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: Hour and a half down, an hour and a half

1102
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Speaker 3: to go. We are live at Wings and Rings and Milford.

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Speaker 5: Come on out.

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Speaker 3: is your message to the Bengals with a three and

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Speaker 3: eight record?

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Speaker 2: Where do they go from here? You can only go up, yes,

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Speaker 2: and you know what, you gotta go to work.

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Speaker 4: It's just like anything that you have every day to

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Speaker 4: somebody that's working.

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Speaker 5: You have to go and do the job.

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Speaker 3: If what's said is what's said is there are six

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Speaker 3: games left and they still remain three games out of

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Speaker 3: first place.

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Speaker 4: You know, if they just if they went out, they

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Speaker 4: finished nine and eight, nine and eight could probably get

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Speaker 4: you a sniff to the playoffs. But you gotta you

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Speaker 4: gotta win, You gotta win, and you gotta do it now.

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Speaker 5: You can't wait later. You gotta do it now.

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't get any easy, man, because Thanksgiving dinner,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be sitting there watching them play to the

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Speaker 4: Ravens and it's gonna be a tough one.

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Speaker 3: Just a reminder to fans out there that post game

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Speaker 3: service the rest. Let's go out to the phones. Is

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Speaker 3: Jeff there in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 6: Yep, I'm here.

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Speaker 13: How you get them done?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 25: Jeff Man, Hey, I'm I'm a Bengals fan for the

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Speaker 25: last thirty years. I remember saying David play and it's

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Speaker 25: Don and talking to him and you both. And I'm

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Speaker 25: on my way back and just out home now from

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Speaker 25: the Bengals game.

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Speaker 13: Uh, believe it or not.

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Speaker 25: As my first Bengals game, my daughter Doug bought me

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Speaker 25: a ticket and we all win as about six or

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Speaker 25: seven of the Flint and uh, but I've always been

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Speaker 25: a Bengals fan all my.

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Speaker 9: Life and it's honored.

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Speaker 6: To talk to you guys.

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Speaker 25: I've you know, I've been disappointed. I thought this was

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Speaker 25: gonna be a great season, you know, and it's just

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Speaker 25: like everybody else. And uh, I've seen a couple of

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Speaker 25: bad calls on the Bengals. You know, you could have

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Speaker 25: got you know, uh call on a couple of passes

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Speaker 25: that you know, they were I mean, they were just

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Speaker 25: I mean their their receivers just got killed by a

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Speaker 25: couple of times and didn't get the call. But at

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Speaker 25: the end of the game there but we stayed until

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Speaker 25: the end, hoping, hoping for the best, you know, And.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Jeff, how awesome was the goal line stand?

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Speaker 2: That was just incredible.

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Speaker 25: I mean, we couldn't lave it. I think they stopped

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Speaker 25: him eight times on that goal. I stand on that

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Speaker 25: end down there, and about eight times I think they

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Speaker 25: stopped them on the goal line stand. And I said,

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Speaker 25: my gud walcme work the defense man. You know, fifth year, what.

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Speaker 2: Are they been? Was that was phenomenal? David?

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Speaker 3: You probably yeah, is David sitting next to me here

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Speaker 3: as you're watching them, are you thinking to yourself? You're

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Speaker 3: you're out there, You're out there, You're in that scrum.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm thinking as a player, how do I get

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Speaker 4: the ball back to the offense?

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Speaker 5: How do we make plays?

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Speaker 4: How do we stop them to give our offense a

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Speaker 4: chance to go down and make something happen on the

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Speaker 4: other end. And you know, the Bengals haven't done that

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Speaker 4: enough this season, but today.

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Speaker 5: The defense showed up and did some things.

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Speaker 4: We just you know, I said it earlier in the show,

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Speaker 4: it takes three phases of the game to be successful.

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Speaker 4: We got field goal kicking, we got plenty and everything

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Speaker 4: was great. Offensively, we were kind of sputtering defense. We

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Speaker 4: sputtered a little bit, but we didn't have all three

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Speaker 4: of them on the same page. And if we would

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Speaker 4: have had all three of them on the same page, I.

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Speaker 5: Think New England was about to get upset. I thought

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Speaker 5: you got ten nothing nothing.

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Speaker 25: I thought we had them and the Mangans got the interception.

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Speaker 6: The beginning the game.

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Speaker 13: I think it's first quarter.

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Speaker 25: Oh my gosh, you haven't seen us. Uh you know,

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Speaker 25: my daughter and my son and all my grandson, we

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Speaker 25: all we was all jumping up and down, screaming and I,

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Speaker 25: hey man, they got a chance ten nothing but you

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Speaker 25: I enjoyed the game, and uh.

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Speaker 17: Uh that spurred.

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Speaker 25: Like I said, it was all my bucket left to

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Speaker 25: go to the Bangles game. My daughters seen it, seen

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Speaker 25: it getting done that chair safety and appreciate.

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Speaker 6: Man. I've been around, been around alone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, we go way back to protective We go

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Speaker 2: way back to nineteen sixty eight, don't we.

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Speaker 25: Oh yeah, man, I was born in sixty three. Actually yeah,

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Speaker 25: well i'll be sixty I'll be sixty three and anyway,

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Speaker 25: so fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Well, sixty eight and sixty nine they played the Bengals

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Speaker 3: were born. They played two years at Nippert Stadium and

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Speaker 3: then on the River Front and now Paul Brown in

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Speaker 3: pay Court Stadium.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate the call. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 13: Thanks thanks for protecting my call.

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Speaker 9: I'm great to talk about that.

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 13: I didn't great talk to mister Paul Draft. I've got

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Speaker 13: his autograph somewhere now there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, outstanding, Hey, thank you? Do we have Anthony

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Speaker 3: and fort Wayne Anthony?

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Speaker 28: Yes, yes, I'm here, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome to seven doing w good good.

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Speaker 28: I just want to say I've got two points to

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Speaker 28: make birth.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 22: My family's had.

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Speaker 28: Season I get since the early nineteen seventies and it's

1255
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 28: long four hour drive home, and you guys help help

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Speaker 28: me get get me through that.

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Speaker 9: And so today was.

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01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 28: Really about the most lethargic and unenergetic the fan base

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 28: has been because I've been coming to games, and it

1260
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 28: just really goes to show the state of the franchise

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Speaker 28: and the state of the city. The team's really yearning

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Speaker 28: for a very successful team, and the fan base is

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 28: just crippled over and over again just waiting for the

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Speaker 28: shoot to drop on these one score games. And I

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 28: think whenever we see how many one score games have

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Speaker 28: been over the last couple of years. Is these how

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Speaker 28: close is it can be to win? You know, we

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01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 28: just really comes down to coaching, and those are kind

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Speaker 28: of the points I wanted to make. And thanks for

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Speaker 28: having me on.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the call. All it means all at me.

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Speaker 3: When you're close, you're not You're not there yet, And

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: an inch is a mile.

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Speaker 4: David Poulcher in the National Football League, Oh, no, doubt man,

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Speaker 4: And people it's hard to explain. You just you have

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Speaker 4: to be there. Oh yeah, I mean and mean what

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Speaker 4: I mean by be there, not in the stands watching it,

1278
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: But you have to be in the trenches. You have

1279
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 4: to be on the sideline. You have to be at practice.

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: These guys practice their tails off. They're out there doing

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 4: the busting the butt. They're looking at a lot of film,

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: doing a lot of running, doing lifting weights. And then

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: when you get out on the football field, you do

1284
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 4: that so you can release all the energy that you

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01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 4: had during out that week. And when you get out there, man,

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 4: and it doesn't go your way, you just feel like

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01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: you're not worthy. You're not worthy. I mean, how in

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: the world do I miss tackles? How do I drop

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: a pass. How do I throw an interception? How do

1290
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 4: I give up you know, a ten point lead or

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Speaker 4: a twenty point lead. It's just hard, man. I'm sitting

1292
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 4: there watching the brown just beat the Raiders, and you know,

1293
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: the Raiders are not a good football team right now.

1294
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 4: The Browns aren't a good but still you have to

1295
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: go out and perform week in and week out. And

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 4: somehow something's missing with the Cincinnati Bengal team. They can't

1297
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: put all three phases together in one game to be successful.

1298
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: Moneymack kicking a sixty three yard field goal that probably

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01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: should have went seventy three yards. He probably could have

1300
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 4: broke the record I think was ten yards up in

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Speaker 4: the air. But yet he could come out there in

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Speaker 4: another day. He could be next week and he's get

1303
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: a forty yard field goal and he misses it. So

1304
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 4: nobody goes out there to deliberately lose a game. But

1305
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 4: it's a constant reminder every week that if you don't

1306
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: show up, they're gonna get you. If you don't play well,

1307
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna lose. And today we played well for a

1308
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 4: little bit, but not enough.

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: At fans, there's only thirty two team that's it. Look

1310
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: at all the teams playing Division one, two, three, NAI eight,

1311
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: thousands of football players, and these are the chosen few.

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 4: These are the elite of the elite.

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 2: That's what's so awesome.

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01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 4: You don't watch the best, yes, and you don't plan

1315
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 4: in the NFL just because there's nothing behind it, just because. No,

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01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: you play in the NFL because you're good. All of

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01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: them are good, not just a few of them. They're

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Speaker 4: all good. In college. You've got some exceptional athletes in college,

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Speaker 4: and not all of them are just like the same.

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Speaker 2: But when you come to.

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Speaker 4: The National Football League, it sometimes check everybody thinks, and

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Speaker 4: it means the NFL means the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: It means a.

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Speaker 5: Lot like not for long.

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Speaker 2: Correct, don't do your job.

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Speaker 3: And that's why reaching free agency it takes four years.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of guys on three year deals.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's not easy, man, I'm telling you, it's not easy.

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Speaker 5: And people don't. People fail to realize.

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Speaker 4: Someone asked me a while ago about was it fun

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Speaker 4: playing the NFL. I said yes and no, and they said, well,

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Speaker 4: are you serious It wasn't fun? I said no, it's

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Speaker 4: a lot of hard work. If you practice all day

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Speaker 4: and not all day.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: We've practiced for three hours every day and then those

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Speaker 4: three hours, man, that is brutal. I have to hit

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Speaker 4: a running back like James Brooks or Ikey Woods. I

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Speaker 4: have to try to blitz alignment like Anthony Munnos. He

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Speaker 4: won't let me touch Anthony. I mean, he won't let

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Speaker 4: me touch Boomer.

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Speaker 2: You know. I got to cover a Rodney Holman at

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01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: the tight end, you know.

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Speaker 4: And when James Brooks come through the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: he don't come through the line of scrimmage just to

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Speaker 4: blow blow kisses at me.

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Speaker 5: He's trying to run me over.

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Speaker 2: But I get that. You get that day in and

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Speaker 2: day out.

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Speaker 4: Because on Sunday I get a chance to perform against

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Speaker 4: another team and be the best that I could be

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Speaker 4: against that team.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, David, He's David Fulcher.

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Speaker 3: This is Chick Ludwig And just a reminder that postgame

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Speaker 3: sports talk is brought to you by M and P Logistics.

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Speaker 3: From first down to final mile, M and P delivers

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Speaker 3: you can depend on it. Let's take a quick break

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Speaker 3: and we'll come back. We'll get to the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the hour. And you're listening to the tri State Chevy

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Speaker 3: Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven

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Speaker 3: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the.

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Speaker 3: Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

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Speaker 3: He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig. We're talking Bengals football.

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Speaker 3: They lose today twenty six to twenty two the New

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Speaker 3: England Patriots. Let's stick with the.

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Speaker 2: Phones here, We've got Mark and Milford. Mark, are you.

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Speaker 24: There, Chick.

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Speaker 29: I just want to remind the young kids in the

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Speaker 29: audience that with three straight poor Pro Bowls, thirty one interceptions,

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Speaker 29: a sack, and a fourth bumble in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 29: Folker didn't just fill a statu sheet. He treated it

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Speaker 29: like a Bengal fan treats a greater Sunday the high

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Speaker 29: I went back for seconds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Chicks treats a skylight Chilli five ways, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 29: Yes, Hey, Polker, do you remember they used to call

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Speaker 29: it the swat team, But you know, really you were

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01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 29: doing crowd control on wide receivers is what.

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Speaker 6: I saw going on there.

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Speaker 13: But those were the days, you know what.

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Speaker 29: Thing around, guys.

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Speaker 5: We played a little bit of football back in the day. Man,

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Speaker 5: We did.

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Speaker 4: We played a little bit of football and we made

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Speaker 4: things happen the team.

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Speaker 29: You know, do you remember bouncing back from the EBB

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Speaker 29: and coming back to the Super Bowl? Do you remember

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Speaker 29: why you bounced back? It was leadership, I think, Bilbert

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Speaker 29: and uh the leadership and all. And here's what we've

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Speaker 29: got in this team. We do have Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 29: a great turner round mindset of a leader.

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Speaker 6: He never gives up.

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Speaker 29: And you know, even with all the odds against him

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Speaker 29: not having all the tools, I have hope and you know,

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Speaker 29: Zach is a little bit of the beneficiary of a

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Speaker 29: culture changing quarterback leg Joe. But when he comes back,

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Speaker 29: I really do think anything can happen. But it takes

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Speaker 29: leadership and a turnaround mindset.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, David, Hey.

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Speaker 5: You're right on it man. In nineteen eighty seven we

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Speaker 5: had a strike year.

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Speaker 4: We're all the scap SCAP players came in and played

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 4: and then we were still on that strike year. So

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 4: we when we after the strike was all, we came

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Speaker 4: back and we wind up finishing like four and ten

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Speaker 4: of forty eleven. But we had a team meeting, an

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Speaker 4: indoor closed meeting amongst the players. No coaches, and the

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Speaker 4: first guy that got up and started talking was Anthony Muno,

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 4: and then it was Booma Sizing, and then it was

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Speaker 4: Tim Cumry, and then David Fulser, then it was Chris

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Speaker 4: collins Worth, and all of us said one thing.

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Speaker 5: If everybody do their job, we could be successful.

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Speaker 4: The following year, in nineteen eighty eight, we went to

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Because I believe leadership, just like you said,

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Speaker 4: leadership should come from upstairs, from the upstairs ownership down

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Speaker 4: to the head coach, to the assistant coaches, and then

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Speaker 4: to the players. But I always put it on the

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Speaker 4: players because every time Dick Lebow asked me to do something,

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Speaker 4: I had to do it. I couldn't blame it on

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Speaker 4: the bowl when I missed the tackle, which I didn't

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Speaker 4: miss too many of them, but it was my fault.

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 4: It wasn't nobody else's fault, but my fault. And I

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Speaker 4: had to look myself in the mirror. And this is

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Speaker 4: what I would tell this football team if they were

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Speaker 4: sitting right here in front of me. Look at yourself

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Speaker 4: in the mirror, and that's the guy you should be

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01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 4: mad at every time you do something wrong. If you

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Speaker 4: do your job, and then the other ten guys on

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,520
Speaker 4: that field do their job, we're going to be successful.

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Speaker 4: And no matter how bad this season is going and

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Speaker 4: how bad it looks, you still have to do your job.

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 4: I heard Marvin Lewis one time say to the team

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Speaker 4: in the locker room, do your damn job.

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Speaker 5: If you do your damn job, we're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 4: And I think sometimes people forget, and I think when

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Speaker 4: I'm watching some of these players, they're trying to do

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01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 4: too much instead of just doing their job. Because if

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Speaker 4: you ask me to to take the force on a

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Speaker 4: on a on a fullback that's coming on the pitch

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 4: a sweep to my side, I have to take out

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 4: that fullback in order for my linebacker who's scraping the

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01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 4: inside to make the play because I can't make the play.

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 4: But when I try to make the play, what I'm

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: doing is I'm taking myself out of the play and

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 4: the other guy out of the play. And you can't

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Speaker 4: win like that. Mark, great stuff, great stuff, Martin.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 29: And I'm gonna tell Zack to let David open up

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 29: with the next game.

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Speaker 3: All right, guy, that show much do we have Jamie

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01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 3: and Sharonville Jamie.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, welcome, welcome, Hey, thank your first time caller.

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 11: I just had a couple of questions, you know, watching

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 11: the game today. I don't know, is it just me,

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,839
Speaker 11: but it looked like it looked at like New England

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01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 11: didn't have that many better players that we had on

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 11: our team. And I think a lot of it is

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 11: it Zach Taylor play calling. I feel like we had

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01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 11: better play calling to day on office, we would have

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Speaker 11: won that game.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I agree with you, man, because I'm telling you,

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 4: at the beginning of that game, I knew that the

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 4: quarterbacks of the Patriots, they've been talking about him in

1464
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 4: the MVP conversation. But the first two drives, I looked

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 4: at them and I'm going, we could beat this team.

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 4: They're not They're nothing, They're nothing special. But as you said,

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Speaker 4: it looked like that we were. You ever heard that

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 4: saying we were out coast or out out produced. I

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01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 4: just feel like I feel like New England's play calling

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Speaker 4: was a little bit better than our play calling. Their

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01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 4: players was just as equal to ours, if not worse.

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Speaker 4: They were making plays. We weren't making plays. But then

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Speaker 4: when New England got there, you know, they got the

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Speaker 4: they got everything in gear.

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Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, you start seeing glimpse of what.

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Speaker 4: They what they were at nine and two, and I'm

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 4: just thinking, we are three and seventeen, but we're playing

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01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: against a nine to two team and we're out playing

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01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 4: that team, but yet we were not successful in play

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01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 4: calling or making plays.

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Speaker 5: You're right, man, right on, You're right on it.

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I you know, I have one more question

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 11: I get off here. I talked to what my guy

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 11: worked because weet that hard Bengal fan, and uh, you know,

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 11: people always saying, what's the Bengals culture, what's the what?

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01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 14: Uh?

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 11: You know, what's the.

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 13: Culture and stuff?

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Speaker 11: So I was I wish that you Parlomon, will David Folter,

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01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 11: and Willie as if y'all could go down there and

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 11: get on the bengalscount department and they can bring these

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 11: players in here, because I know that would be a

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 11: joy to see y'all down there. I know y'all down

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 11: in that uh and that down there working for them.

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01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 11: You know that would be we'd probably get the players

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01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 11: in here we need in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, j I appreciate it.

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 3: It would be awesome, And I don't know if this happens,

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01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 3: David to bring in different alumni to address the team.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Bengals don't do that.

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01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: And as a player, I'm not sure that's the best

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01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 4: thing to do because you're going to bring in an

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01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: older guy to come back and tell me, hey, man,

1504
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 4: you ain't playing right, or maybe you should do this.

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 5: You know, some guys don't want to hear that.

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 4: You know what they need to hear is they need

1507
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: a coaches telling them what you're doing is not good

1508
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 4: enough and if you don't do your job, I'm gonna

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 4: bring somebody else in and take it over for you.

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 4: But these guys, they make so much money that it

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: doesn't phase them to hear that. So these guys are

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01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: gonna do what they want to do because they make

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 4: too much money. I mean, Zach Taylor on the fifty

1514
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 4: three man roster, Zach Taylor's probably payroll wise, he might

1515
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 4: be in the bottom three. So these guys make more

1516
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 4: money than Zach. So how does Zach Taylor get these

1517
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 4: guys to start.

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 5: Playing good football?

1519
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: You gotta want it, man, because it's in here, It's

1520
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 4: in the heart. You don't show up for a paycheck.

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: You show up for your teammates, you show up for

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01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 4: your city. You practice and you play for your city.

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01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: You're gonna get paid no matter what. Why not get

1524
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 4: maid Why not make that money worth this while by

1525
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 4: winning football games?

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: Amen to that. If that makes stuff, it sure does. Hey,

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01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: we appreciate the call. Appreciate all the loyal listeners and

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: all the callers.

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01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: We've got one hour to go.

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Speaker 5: One hour, man, that was one hour on.

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Speaker 3: The Tri State Chevy Dealer's Post Game Sports Talk presented

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01:19:58,960 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: by RNL Carrier.

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig.

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01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: Five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand, one eight

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Speaker 3: hundred the Big One. Once again the Tri State Chevy

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Speaker 3: Dealer's Post Game Sports Talk live from Wings and Rings

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01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: and Milford on.

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports

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01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 3: Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at Wings and

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01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 3: Rings in Milford, fifty eighth nine Smiser Road.

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig and.

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01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 3: We have an in restaurant guest, the one and Only

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01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: Touchdown Tommy from Milford.

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01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: Tommy, how are you? Man? Hey, I'm doing okay. After

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01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: a game like.

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 30: That, I mean a lot to talk about it you

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01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 30: kind of let you. David and I were kind of

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01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 30: talking offline and we kind of match up on a

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01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 30: lot of a lot of items. It's like, I want

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01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 30: to see a football team out there. It's like crash

1552
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 30: crash dummies, get after right man. Let's let's essentially who's

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01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 30: gonna be the physical team. That's who's the come in,

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01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 30: not the finesse team. And so that's what I want

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01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 30: to see. I saw a lot of energy from the

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 30: defense today. They play with a lot of energy, and

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01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 30: so they kept them in the game. You know, but uh,

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 30: you know, I I'd like Zach's a play calling to

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 30: be kind of handled by somebody else, to be delay.

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01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: Frank, third and one, you pass?

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01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, But that tells me you're gonna go

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 3: forward on fourth down thirteen to ten left in this game?

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01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Fourth and one, they're out there,

1564
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 2: and a delay a game? Now you have to punt.

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: How does that happen?

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 30: Well, you don't have trust in your offensive line, I guess.

1567
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 30: Because third and one, fourth the one should be automatic.

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01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, and and and in the NFL, every team

1569
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 4: should be able to get one yard. You should be

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01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 4: able to get one yard where there's third and one,

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 4: fourth and one, you should get one yard and somebody's

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01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 4: gotta grab them kimonas and put push forward to get

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 4: that first down.

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 3: Now the bank were playing. They kept all three timeouts

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01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 3: till late in the game. I'm there, like, get the

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01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: first out, spike the ball right, see they did it

1577
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: like one time, I think spiking it.

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01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: Well.

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01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 30: The amazing thing is that that game came down to

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01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 30: the you know all he had.

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01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: To do a score in the last you know, the last

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 2: sixty seconds.

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01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 30: Yes, that game was tight all the way and a

1584
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 30: number of miscues that the Bengals made, in my opinion,

1585
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 30: both on the field on the sideline, there were plenty

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01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 30: of chances that we could have done something there make

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01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 30: a difference, Yes, but no, I think it was an

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01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 30: out coach. They were well disciplined, meaning you know their

1589
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 30: team and we're kind of like trying to figure it out,

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01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 30: and uh in a lot of it's rookies. I don't

1591
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 30: I don't dispute that, but I'm watching the videos to Gather.

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01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 30: Davis Gather had an interception today. You know the linebackers

1593
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 30: that played for the Indianapolis We got rid of him.

1594
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 30: I mean we're playing with two rookies, and I'm telling you,

1595
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 30: they ate Barnett up today, they ate Jax Hill Hill up.

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01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: They looked for both of them. They look eating them up. Man.

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01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 30: And if you're a tie, and if you played against

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 30: the Bengals for the last twenty years, you would have

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01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 30: been in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Because we could not cover ten. We can't cover them,

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01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 4: and we don't drop deep enough. Our linebackers don't drop

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01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 4: deep enough. Our safeties are too deep, and the bas's

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01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 4: been thrown right in front of us.

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01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 5: And then we got guys coming up. Instead of running

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 5: through the ball.

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01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 4: Carrier, we want to throw a shoulder and think we're

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01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 4: gonna knock them down.

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: That's pee wee football. You're absolutely right, NFL football.

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 4: You have to I was told to put my face

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01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 4: mask on his chest so that when I hit him,

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01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 4: my face mask comes through his back.

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01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 5: That's how I was told to play.

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01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 4: I know that sounds kind of crazy, you know, no

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 4: visible nobody getting thrown up and then but I used

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01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 4: to take put it on your chest and knock him backwards.

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01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 4: These guys want to grab and push them down.

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01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 3: Well, Teqio Spikes told me he wants to see a

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01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: helmet roll with.

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01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,839
Speaker 2: The head in it. That's what he talked about football.

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01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: But Barrett Carter sixteen combined tackles, eight solo, eight assists,

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01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: Gino Stone thirteen tackles, seven assists, six solo, Dimitrius Knight

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01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 3: with eight tackles, Joseph Osai was six, Dax Hill with four.

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01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: So, I mean those are interesting stats. I mean what's interesting?

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 30: Are you tackling as you're chasing the guy behind you

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 30: know he's getting behind you.

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01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, how many tackles for lost?

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01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 30: How many tackles on short I mean, nobody's and there

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01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 30: was no pressure.

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01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: I mean I get it. I mean we don't.

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01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 30: Both of our are rushing guys are out right, so

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 30: you can't put much pressure.

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01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: On a quarterback hits.

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01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: You know, only three quarterback hits one sack that came

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01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: from Jayalen Davis on that on that safety blist, right.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, I mean it's it's a tough situation. I mean,

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 30: Reynolds is not in a great spot. I mean you

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01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 30: look at who he has to ship out there. He

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01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 30: can't play anybody different in the cornerback. He has no

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01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 30: depth there. Yeah, and there's no depth at safety either.

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01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 30: I mean, I thought Battle was gonna be a big

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01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 30: player this year. But Battle is in the wrong position.

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01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 30: He doesn't want to kind of kind of David to

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01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 30: your point, he saw aggressive at the Lion's grimm. If

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01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 30: you have a thumper, there's no thumper.

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 5: On this tape, you know.

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01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 30: And because it sets the tone, it sets the tone

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 30: on defense, you know.

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01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 5: And here's the thing to them.

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01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 4: When I watched this football team, and I you know,

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01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 4: people can can pick it to what they want to do.

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01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 4: When I played, I had a linebacker by the name

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01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 4: of Joe Kelly from the University of Washington from South

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01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 4: central Los Angeles with me, and Joe Kelly would pull

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01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 4: your teeth out. I knew the guy in front of me,

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01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 4: Leo Barker, Joe Kelly, uh, Tim Crumride, Reggie Williams, all

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01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 4: these guys up front, I knew them. Guys did not

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01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 4: want me to make tackles in the secondary. Man, why

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01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 4: why are you making all the tackles. I mean, I

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01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 4: will come up to the line of Scrimma say hey,

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01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 4: loo bo, can I get a little close to get

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01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 4: in the box, and I want to I want to play.

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 5: But them guys did not want me to make tackles.

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01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 4: And and when you watch this football team, it's like,

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 4: who is that guy.

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: Who's the guy that's.

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01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 4: Gonna say I'm gonna make all the tackles, I'm gonna

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01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 4: make the play. It's almost like everybody is waiting for

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01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 4: somebody else to make a play.

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01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're right.

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01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 30: Well, I think they had Logan Wilson up for a

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01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 30: couple of years. He didn't make a dish, but they

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01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 30: looked at him to kind of set the tone. Now

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01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 30: you got two rookies his linebackers, and you've got you

1675
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 30: don't really have a stud across the front. Now, you

1676
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 30: really don't have a defensive standout, not one, not one.

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 30: And to your point, I mean, nobody can kind of

1678
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 30: say let's get after it boys, you know, because you

1679
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 30: got to show it on the field now, because you've

1680
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 30: not earned the right to kind of step up and

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01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 30: make that.

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01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 4: And you know what us to add to that, though,

1683
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 4: is how many of the guys on that team are

1684
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 4: able to come up to you and say, you know,

1685
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm putting my foot in your bike, you know, And

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01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm not putting it in there because I hate you,

1687
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 4: but you're not doing your job. Nobody does that. They

1688
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 4: stand around and they all want to watch. But then

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01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 4: here's what happens to me. I like that gets me

1690
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 4: is that when they make a play, all of a sudden,

1691
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 4: they got the dancing on and they're down fourteen nothing,

1692
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 4: and the dude, you don't dance when you're losing, dance

1693
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 4: when you win it. It acts like you've been there.

1694
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 4: Paul Brown said that to us many many years ago.

1695
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: Acts like you've been there. As the Curtis scored a touchdown,

1696
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 4: he drops the ball. Tim McGee scored the touchdown. He

1697
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 4: flipped it over his shoulder. These guys don't touchdown down.

1698
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: They throw it up in the stand. They gotta do backflip.

1699
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 4: They gotta do all that because a it's a showcase,

1700
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 4: and it shouldn't be a showcase. It's supposed to be

1701
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 4: smash mouth beat the other guy up.

1702
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1703
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hurt you, but I'm gonna hit

1704
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 4: you hard enough to let you know that thirty three

1705
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 4: is here all day. I Curtis liked to go over

1706
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 4: the shoulder, just dropped it over and over his shoulder.

1707
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: Don't say nothing.

1708
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 5: Ain't up there dancing, just dropping and keep on moving.

1709
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

1710
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: Well, let's review, good gentlemen, the guilty windows, window of

1711
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 3: opportunity brought to you by Guilkey Windows. To keep the

1712
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 3: quality windows is trusting the pros guilty windows. The window

1713
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 3: of opportunity came when Gino Stone got the interception, raced

1714
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 3: it in from thirty three yards out, and all of

1715
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: a sudden the peggals are up ten to nothing.

1716
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 2: What should have happened, David.

1717
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 4: Fulcher, That is when you put your foot on your throat.

1718
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 4: You put the foot on the throat and you just

1719
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 4: keep squeezing. They Because I'm telling you, I mayor that

1720
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 4: quarterback Drake. I'm telling you he he looked rattled earlier,

1721
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 4: that gear, he looked rattled, And all of a sudden

1722
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, well, Cincinnati, you gonna let me come

1723
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 4: out out of this shadow, then I'm gonna get it.

1724
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 4: All of a sudden he started playing a little bit better.

1725
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 4: We should have put our foot of thro on their throat.

1726
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 4: We should have came after him and beat him up.

1727
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 4: We sat back and let him sit there. We didn't

1728
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 4: blitz him. We didn't put pressure on him. We tried

1729
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 4: to rush that four to put pressure on him in

1730
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 4: that four, didn't get there, and all of a sudden,

1731
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 4: now he becomes the Super Bowl quarterback of whatnot of

1732
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 4: the year.

1733
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: The key the.

1734
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 3: Quality windows is trusting the pros Kilkey windows. That that

1735
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: s the Kilkey windows, window of opportunity. And the Bengals

1736
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 3: really let it slip away.

1737
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 5: Yeah they did.

1738
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 30: And I thought they had energy coming out of you

1739
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 30: know the same yeah with you know when McPherson hits

1740
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 30: the big long field goal, I mean always sudden, man,

1741
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 30: you should be playing with the energy.

1742
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: And they came out in that third quarter it was

1743
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: like flat clap yeah, flat even flap set, even lap set.

1744
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 3: That is momentum right there to get that Fueld goal

1745
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 3: to pull with it seventeen.

1746
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: To third two.

1747
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 4: Is that flatness that coming out second half on the

1748
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 4: coach or that players, because when you come out a

1749
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 4: lot of time, you come out.

1750
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 5: Of halftime, you've been sitting there for ten twelve minutes and.

1751
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: We got the ball, then have the ball stiff.

1752
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you're little stiff and you're not like

1753
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 5: you were when you went in.

1754
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 4: Blood circulating, everything is flowing, but you got to come

1755
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 4: back out and get that.

1756
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 5: Blood going again.

1757
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:32,719
Speaker 2: But we come out flat.

1758
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 4: And when you come out flat and they just punching

1759
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 4: and punching, you told New England, Hey, it's all the win,

1760
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 4: you know.

1761
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 30: I think it depends on the kind of team you have,

1762
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 30: because I think there are some teams that don't need

1763
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 30: a coach to really kind of kick them in the butt,

1764
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 30: because these guys are professionals, like you say, right, and it's.

1765
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Me against you. If you beat me, that makes me

1766
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: look bad. Yeah, I mean, you can't have that go on.

1767
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 30: But I think there's this team is a little bit

1768
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 30: like Doctor Jekyl, Mister or High. You don't know what

1769
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 30: you've got, and they're very like one mistake and they

1770
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 30: kind of break down. So you kind of have to

1771
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 30: kind of stay behind them and just kind of keep

1772
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 30: pushing it and they're waiting.

1773
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 4: It's almost like they're waiting for somebody else to make

1774
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 4: them pay.

1775
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 3: It's awesome having touchdown Tommy Stevens from Milford right here

1776
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 3: with us alongside David Folter.

1777
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy.

1778
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 3: Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

1779
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Man, We've got the folks on the line. Please hold

1780
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 2: on We're gonna come to you next.

1781
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 3: We're live at Wings and Rings in Milford having a

1782
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 3: blast breaking down the Bengals twenty six to twenty loss

1783
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 3: to the New England Patriots on seven hundred wl W.

1784
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 30: I would agree, yeah, oh yeah.

1785
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 31: Heresting to the Dry States Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk

1786
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 31: presented by RNL care.

1787
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: He's David Folter, This is Chick Ludwig.

1788
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,839
Speaker 3: We're joined by touchdown Tommy Stevens right here in Milford

1789
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 3: at the Wings and Rings. And I wanted to bring

1790
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 3: up a couple names here, guys. Chase Brown is really.

1791
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Blossoming into a playmaker.

1792
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 3: Nineteen carries one hundred and seven yards today, five point

1793
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 3: six yards of carry a long game of twenty one

1794
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 3: and he also caught a couple passes for twenty three yards.

1795
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: So without Jamar Chase, they had to get creative. So

1796
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 3: it was great to see Micah Sicky get back.

1797
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 2: In the flow of things.

1798
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley two catches twenty nine yards.

1799
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 2: They needed to get him more involved.

1800
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 3: Andre Josebash four carries or four catches for sixty one yards.

1801
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,759
Speaker 2: T Higgins five for thirty one before his injury. Yeah,

1802
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 2: so they really missed Jamar Chase bottom line.

1803
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 5: They mister mark Chase.

1804
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: But I tell you what, Chase Brown, I wish they

1805
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 4: had another running back that could give him a little

1806
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 4: bit of breather every now and then, because they're not.

1807
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 4: It's not giving it to him. Yeah, that's right down.

1808
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you something, Chase Brown is a gamer.

1809
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 4: Chase Brown's a gamer, and I wish that line would

1810
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 4: block enough for him because this guy could be that

1811
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 4: one hundred yard back every game nineteen twenty carries a game.

1812
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: Chase Brown is for real.

1813
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 4: On that offense, I just I just don't see the

1814
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 4: offensive line pushing. It's almost like they stalemate. They all

1815
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 4: want to get to stand tall. Pass block and run

1816
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 4: block is the same thing from every offensive lineman that

1817
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 4: we got. They don't fire out, they don't go backwards

1818
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 4: on pass. They stand there and they catch and they

1819
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 4: hold and they try to bench press.

1820
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 5: And push people out.

1821
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 4: And them defensive linemen are strong, they're not moving. And

1822
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:58,839
Speaker 4: I'm telling you today's that defensive line for New England.

1823
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 4: At one series they just fight out kicked the Bengals

1824
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 4: offensive line, but they push them all back three and out.

1825
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 5: They punt the ball We've got to be more physical.

1826
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 5: I think you said that.

1827
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're not physical enough on both sides of the ball.

1828
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: A play here and a play there. But it's got to.

1829
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 4: Be continuance year out, game in game, pushing people and

1830
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 4: knocking people around. And if you get a fifteen yard

1831
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 4: penalty because somebody's talking crazy and you put your form

1832
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 4: in his throat, you know what.

1833
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm an owner. I'll pay for that fine. But we

1834
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: don't do that. We don't.

1835
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 4: We want to catch the blows instead of delivering the blow.

1836
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 4: And you can't do that in the National Football leagues,

1837
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 4: especially not in this league.

1838
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. Do we have Bill

1839
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 2: in Florence?

1840
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 22: Yeah, I just want to say something really quick. First

1841
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 22: of all, kudos to McPherson. I mean, geez, hitting sixty

1842
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 22: three yards, yes, And here's the thing, Fellas, I think

1843
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 22: you should have got seventy yards. You want to load

1844
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 22: the truth. And nobody's talking about Joe Flacto and he's

1845
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 22: not a fifty sixty million dollar quarterback. And this guy's

1846
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 22: come in to our league, and I mean he's got

1847
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 22: a three to zero eight caliber arm and he's given

1848
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 22: everything he can possibly give to this team.

1849
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 3: So it was already a sixth game, already his sixth game.

1850
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 3: You're right, and uh, he's doing all he can do.

1851
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 3: I just wish he had to throw that interception because

1852
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:31,919
Speaker 3: that was telegram.

1853
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1854
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 22: Just hey, that's part of the game and it happens.

1855
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 9: But this guy has come into this league.

1856
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 22: He's not making fifty sixty million dollars anymore, but they're

1857
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 22: forty year old. I mean, he's playing like. I'm so

1858
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 22: glad that if Joe Burrow gets back in there, that

1859
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 22: this is our backup quarterback. That's all I'm gonna say.

1860
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: All right, eight, Bill appreciated you carry.

1861
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned Evan McPherson wearing shoes for the

1862
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 3: Shoe List. Yeah, a huge, A great cause. Uh, I

1863
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: want fans to check that out. And that was on

1864
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 3: his uh Mike, you know, Mike my cost like please, yes, all.

1865
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,839
Speaker 22: Right, Well, I mean we're donating me and my wife,

1866
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 22: and I'm just saying, he hit a sixty three. I

1867
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 22: think he can hit a seventy.

1868
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: Definitely.

1869
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 22: You're kidding me.

1870
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 2: All right, Phil, we got to run appreciate it.

1871
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 3: I want to get to some other callers. Andy is

1872
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 3: in Hawaii. Andy, are you there. Okay, how about Larry?

1873
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 3: How about Larry and Hamilton?

1874
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 13: Yes, I am Hi Larry.

1875
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 6: How you doing guys?

1876
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 13: And uh, David, you and I go back. Uh, I'm

1877
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 13: the Larry that's been to your house and have like

1878
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 13: five of your jerseys. You kind of stole a little

1879
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 13: bit of my thunder, David. When the offensive line are

1880
01:35:55,080 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 13: standing there upright and they're not leaning in, there's no

1881
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 13: way in the world they're going to defend. And on

1882
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 13: the defensive side, when a guy is wide open and

1883
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 13: we have two Bengals standing there next to each other

1884
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 13: and the other the offensive player is wide open, there's

1885
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 13: something wrong what you said earlier about you know, former

1886
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 13: player coaching. Come on, dude, I know you. I know

1887
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 13: the coaching that you do with inmates. Now do you

1888
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 13: know who I am?

1889
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 5: Of course I do.

1890
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 6: Larry, how you doing, man, I'm doing well.

1891
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 13: And I'll tell you what. You remind me so much

1892
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 13: of Kerry Combs and your power, your enthusiasm and everything else.

1893
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 6: It's electric.

1894
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,600
Speaker 13: It moves other people in that same situation. At the

1895
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 13: end of the day, I'm reluctant to be critical of coaching,

1896
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 13: but I'm to the point now where you almost have

1897
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,879
Speaker 13: to be. I've had situations with me and Robert Jackson

1898
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,959
Speaker 13: and some kids that I was working with at Northwest

1899
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 13: High School, and I say, Robert Jackson, get these kids

1900
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,759
Speaker 13: so repped up they couldn't even wait to go play again.

1901
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 13: The same with Tim McGee, and I know what you're

1902
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 13: bit made of. So to say that you probably couldn't

1903
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 13: add value or they whatever you, I would be tickled

1904
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 13: to death to know that you were going to go

1905
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 13: in that locker room and motivate people to run through

1906
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 13: fire with gasoline drawers on.

1907
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 4: I will tell you this, Larry, You're on it man.

1908
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 4: That stone, that's the stone man right there, Larry's stone.

1909
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you there. I think you know, as

1910
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 4: a former player, I don't I don't want to coach,

1911
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 4: you know. I think coaching takes a lot away from

1912
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 4: your family. You're always gone and all late nights. But

1913
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 4: you know, we know a little bit about football, man,

1914
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 4: and I just all I would would love to do

1915
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 4: is just sit down with the safeties one day and say,

1916
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 4: tell me what you see. I want to look at

1917
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 4: the film. All of us are gonna look at the

1918
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 4: same field. Tell me what you see, and then I

1919
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 4: want them to just tell me, because I still say it.

1920
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 4: When le Ball used to tell us that safety he says, listen,

1921
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 4: I don't want you running out of there, because if

1922
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 4: you run out of there and the ball is a run,

1923
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 4: you're gone. He used to tell us to shuffle and

1924
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 4: two shuffles. Two shuffle steps will tell you it's it

1925
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 4: a run or pass. If it's a run, on the

1926
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 4: third shuffle step, I'm coming to the line of scrimmage.

1927
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: If it's a pass. By third, I'm going back deep.

1928
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: These guys are running out of there and it's a

1929
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 2: running play, and I'm thinking, where are you going?

1930
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 4: Why are you guys going twenty yards deep when the

1931
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,799
Speaker 4: ball is being ran and then when they're twenty.

1932
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 5: Yards deep on the past.

1933
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 4: That's why the tight ends are opening across the middle

1934
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 4: because there's no safety there.

1935
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 2: There's no safety there to stop that.

1936
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 4: When we obviously the NFL is trying to be safe

1937
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 4: on receivers coming across the middle getting hurt.

1938
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 2: But I had talked to Jamar Chase three weeks ago.

1939
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 4: You know, he told me I will run across the

1940
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 4: middle all day because I know the earths aren't gonna

1941
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 4: hit me. Because the NFL is gonna find him. Well, listen, man,

1942
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 4: let me tell you something. If you were playing my era,

1943
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 4: you come across the middle, we're gonna hit, You're gonna

1944
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 4: take your hand off. And these guys won't do it.

1945
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 4: They will not do it, man. And that's why I

1946
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 4: just feel like we are passive. We're not aggressive the

1947
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 4: other teams, and that's why they do what they do

1948
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 4: to us.

1949
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 13: It's because about the offensive the offensive line. When when

1950
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 13: when they're standing upright and they're not leaning in to

1951
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 13: that the defender coming across the line, they're not they're

1952
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 13: not ready to block that guy. They're standing upright. That's crazy.

1953
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 3: They call that catching. So much we've got, is it?

1954
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 3: Jacob in Cincinnati?

1955
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 9: Is there Jammy?

1956
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 2: Yes, sir?

1957
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 4: All right.

1958
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 9: That might be kind of a basic question.

1959
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 32: I probably google it or whatever, but I figure some

1960
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 32: people might have the same question. At a market like

1961
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 32: Guards and Cincinnati, where's like where are our main sources

1962
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 32: of revenue? And like how does that and pay to

1963
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 32: a big market team? And also I know it kind

1964
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 32: of comes and goes in waves that you build a team.

1965
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Speaker 9: I know the season's not over yet.

1966
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Speaker 32: But like kind of how many years do we kind

1967
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Speaker 32: of have with what we've got here, can you kind

1968
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Speaker 32: of paint the picture financially?

1969
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure on that one.

1970
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Speaker 2: Could you Gosh, I feel like an attorney because you

1971
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 2: rephrase the question how I'm not sure.

1972
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

1973
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Speaker 30: I think he's kind of like I mean, I think

1974
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 30: there's two when you when you compare teams. He's trying

1975
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,879
Speaker 30: to see the money that we make, mean the Bengals,

1976
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Speaker 30: how does that compare with other teams? And so obviously

1977
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 30: there's a cap that all teams play undres, right, and

1978
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 30: so we know where you know, you're paying Jamar, you're

1979
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Speaker 30: paying Higgins, you're paying that's one hundred and fifty million

1980
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Speaker 30: dollars there, and I think that I think the payroll

1981
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 30: is about two fifty. So you've got one hundred million

1982
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 30: left for the fifty other players right now. The question

1983
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,879
Speaker 30: I would ask is, you know where does the Bengals

1984
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 30: get their money as a franchise to pay for scouts,

1985
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 30: to pay for you know, all those extra things that

1986
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 30: really make a difference. Maybe maybe the doctors they have there,

1987
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Speaker 30: the staff that you know, all those other pieces.

1988
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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if that comes from tickets.

1989
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 3: That's why ticket prices are going up pay corps.

1990
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Speaker 4: Pay Corps gave them a right an eight failure just

1991
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 4: to have their name on it, so that money pays

1992
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Speaker 4: for salaries as well.

1993
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Speaker 30: But compared to like San Francisco, or compared to big,

1994
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Speaker 30: big market accounts, I mean, we probably get less, but

1995
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Speaker 30: I don't think we're spending nearly as much.

1996
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Speaker 2: I think the Browns are making a lot of money.

1997
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Speaker 2: Yes they are.

1998
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Speaker 30: They'll make even more money they sell the team because

1999
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 30: they bought it. I think for thirty million, I think

2000
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 30: it's worth what four billion? Yeah, I mean I'd like

2001
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 30: to have that return, you know, and so But to

2002
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 30: your point, I think the Bengals don't make as much.

2003
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 30: I mean, there's Jersey sales, and some of that is

2004
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 30: split across all the teams, but there is some some

2005
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 30: of that revenue is kept by the by the home

2006
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Speaker 30: team and.

2007
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Speaker 4: In the TV the TV spots that everybody's getting you gotta,

2008
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:50,799
Speaker 4: you gotta.

2009
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Speaker 5: Not what's his name? The oh, I forgot about the

2010
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 5: market that fast?

2011
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Speaker 4: The the commissioner, the commissioners. Yeah, yeah, Richard Dale's making

2012
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 4: sixty five million dollars a year to get all these

2013
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 4: us extra incentives for the team's plan. Overseas and whatnot.

2014
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 4: So the teams aren't making some money, but I don't know.

2015
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 4: I don't think the Bengals is making as much as

2016
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Speaker 4: the Big and.

2017
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Speaker 2: Some of the other one. We'll continue that thought. We've

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2039
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01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 3: it was a rough day really for both teams and

2045
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 3: for the Bengals. Marco Wilson, a cornerback, goes out with

2046
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 3: a hamstring injury. Gosh, even Joe Flacco had a finger

2047
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 3: injury that forced Jake Browning to come in for a play,

2048
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 3: completed a pass. He was done because Flacco came back on.

2049
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Speaker 3: But TAJH Brooks is out with a concussion and a

2050
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 3: shoulder injury by Andre Joseavash And at one point in

2051
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 3: this game, the Bengals only had two healthy wide receivers

2052
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 3: in Charlie Jones and Mitchell Tinsley and of course t Higgins.

2053
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 3: You could hear the crowd yelling for Tea. He banged

2054
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 3: his head violently on the on the turf and was

2055
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 3: he kind of knocked out a little bit knocked out

2056
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 3: concussion And uh man, it's gonna be tough for him

2057
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 3: to come back and play on Thursday night with the

2058
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 3: Bengals face the Baltimore Ravens at M ANDT Backs Stadium

2059
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 3: on Thursday.

2060
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Speaker 4: The thing I can think, the only thing I can

2061
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 4: think of on this concussion is is they're gonna probably

2062
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 4: give him a test in a couple of days and

2063
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 4: see what that baseline. But when they go inside the

2064
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 4: blue tint and the training camp, they these guys get there,

2065
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 4: they get concussion protocol testing, blah blah blah, lights and whatnot.

2066
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 4: And when he goes in that tent, they put that

2067
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 4: same test up to see how reaction and if the

2068
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 4: reactions aren't the same then it was when training camp happened,

2069
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,799
Speaker 4: then they're gonna he probably won't be playing on Thursday.

2070
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2073
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Speaker 3: from here?

2074
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 22: Now?

2075
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 3: David Foulcher on a short work week, man with a

2076
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 3: three and eight record, having to play really a team

2077
01:45:55,479 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 3: now that's tied with Pittsburgh at six and five.

2078
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 4: With a winning streak going. Now, Well, when Baltimore ravens,

2079
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 4: when you have a short week, you don't have a

2080
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 4: day off. So like tomorrow, they're gonna be doing installation

2081
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 4: for Baltimore and practice is probably gonna be a little

2082
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 4: bit light, but there's no rests, so there's no day off.

2083
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 4: Normally you get Tuesday off when you play on a Sunday. Well,

2084
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 4: Monday is definitely gonna be like Wednesday. So tomorrow they're

2085
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 4: gonna practice tomorrow with soreness, with pain, with whatever's going on,

2086
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 4: and they got to get themselves ready for Thursdays.

2087
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 5: So there's not a lot of.

2088
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,759
Speaker 2: Time for people who are injured.

2089
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 4: You know, T Higgins was if this was a Sunday

2090
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 4: game coming up, t would have Monday, Tuesday, we got

2091
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 4: automatic off. Wednesday is installation day. He could be bread,

2092
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 4: he could be ready to play on Sunday. I don't

2093
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen this week. But once again, it's

2094
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 4: when you got to play a short week. Man, there's

2095
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 4: no time to sit back and think about anything because

2096
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 4: you're finna play the Ravens, and the Ravens are look

2097
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 4: like they've turned the corner and getting themselves ready to play.

2098
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if Joe is back on Thursday night,

2099
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving night, and Jamaar Chase after a one game suspension.

2100
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 3: Hopefully he comes back and he can be Jamar Chase.

2101
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 30: I mean that's a big, big I'm kind of mixed

2102
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 30: on this whole Burrow thing on Thursday. You know, I'm

2103
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 30: really you know, like I won him for the next

2104
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 30: ten years, right, and I just don't want to have

2105
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 30: him showing up on Thursday and having another injury. I mean,

2106
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 30: is he one hundred percent? I mean they need to

2107
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 30: be absolutely sure about that. And plus you're going into

2108
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,480
Speaker 30: a hostile environment. I mean, I'll tell you one thing. Baltimore,

2109
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 30: like Pittsburgh and David, you and I talked about it.

2110
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 30: They have definition. They know what their defense is and

2111
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 30: they draft people that fit that definition. The Bengals defense

2112
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 30: doesn't have a definition, and it hasn't for a long time.

2113
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 2: You guys, were hitters there.

2114
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 30: We haven't had that kind of definition, so they haven't

2115
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 30: really figured out who and what they want to be.

2116
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 4: You know, the Pittsburg Steelers in the Baltimore Ravens. When

2117
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 4: a player leaves, when they recruit, they try to find

2118
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 4: that same guy wherever college he's at.

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Speaker 5: I remember when and Oh.

2120
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Speaker 4: Harrison linebacker linman James Harrison for the Pittsburgh Steelers. When Harrison,

2121
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 4: before Harrison got there, there was another d lineman that

2122
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 4: Harrison played just alike. So when they brought Harrison in

2123
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 4: the only difference was the name. The attitude and the

2124
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 4: aggressiveness was still there, was just a different name.

2125
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,440
Speaker 2: Well, then they do that all the time. Levon Kirkland.

2126
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 3: Yes, they like hit him for a year or two

2127
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 3: and then they spring him on on you because.

2128
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 4: Kirkland was just like the guy that was playing in

2129
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 4: front of him. So all they missed was a different name,

2130
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 4: but the same attitude. And you don't have that attitude

2131
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 4: and an identity because we don't have an identity.

2132
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 5: Our identity is draft the player, bring him in here.

2133
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 4: Well, the guy that played that position four before was

2134
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 4: a four or five guy that knocked somebody's telling all, well,

2135
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 4: this guy's a four to seven and he's a little passive. Well,

2136
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 4: that's not the same aggressive guy that we're looking for.

2137
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 4: We're scouting. Going back to that scouting apartment when when

2138
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 4: you scout, when you replace a player, you need to

2139
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 4: replace that player with the same mode of a player

2140
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 4: that played like this. And that's what that's why Pittsburgh

2141
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 4: is so successful in Baltimore, so successful.

2142
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 3: Joey Porter, Levon Kirkland, think about those guys, James Harrison, think.

2143
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: About all of us. They're all cut from the same cloth.

2144
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 30: They match what Pittsburgh wants to do, you know, and

2145
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 30: so to you could get a guy that's an inch

2146
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 30: or too shorter, but he's the guy you want. But

2147
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 30: he doesn't make a big difference. If the guy's taking your.

2148
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 4: Head, if he does exactly what that guy that we

2149
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 4: retired that played in that position, if he does the

2150
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 4: same exact thing, we don't have to change nothing. Our

2151
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 4: defense is going to stay the same. It's just a

2152
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 4: different number and a different sized guy.

2153
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 30: We're not changing our defense. We're just essentially putting players

2154
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 30: in if they can play, that's it.

2155
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 3: And do we still have Chris in Cincinnati on the

2156
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,839
Speaker 3: line okay, and how about Don in Newport?

2157
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 2: Is he still with us? Okay? Uh?

2158
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 3: Seven nine seven thousand, one eight hundred the big one. Well,

2159
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,480
Speaker 3: let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage.

2160
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Speaker 2: David Foulcher brought to you.

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Speaker 3: for over twenty years. Well, the secondary man got off

2163
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 3: to a great start with you know, Stone in a

2164
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Speaker 3: thirty three yard.

2165
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Speaker 2: Pick six and at ten to h in lead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that I was when they were up ten nothing,

2167
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 4: I said, We're gonna run New England right out of here.

2168
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Speaker 4: That's what I felt, were gonna run them out here

2169
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 4: because the defense is still mating right now making plays,

2170
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, okay, so let's get the offense to

2171
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 4: do what they've been doing the last couple of weeks,

2172
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 4: scoring some points. We got a field goal kick, gonna

2173
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 4: get kicks and field goals and all of the like, okay,

2174
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 4: the air just went out of the sale.

2175
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Speaker 5: The aggressive this.

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Speaker 4: Then the offense slowed down, and then all of a sudden,

2177
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 4: we get a punter who's who's leading the leader running

2178
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 4: and he shanks one forty thirty five yards and I'm like, well,

2179
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 4: he hadn't done that in months, and all of a sudden,

2180
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 4: you could see win come out of the sale. And

2181
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 4: now New England says, oh, if you're gonna let us

2182
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 4: hang around, we're gonna bite you.

2183
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 5: And they bid us right.

2184
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 2: And they had three offensive line to go down.

2185
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 3: Yes they were doing with backup playing backup side the

2186
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 3: west side of their offensive line, but to stop them

2187
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 3: on the.

2188
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 4: Goal line with ten plays and that one stretch it

2189
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 4: was seven at the right, the seven plays inside of

2190
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 4: ten yard.

2191
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,839
Speaker 3: That was after the two pass interference penalties on Dak's hill.

2192
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 4: And our and our defense did that. They got on

2193
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 4: the goal line. First thing I thought about, well, oh

2194
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 4: it's another touchdown. They stepped up and made plays, and

2195
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 4: you say to yourself, if we could do that, we

2196
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 4: got a shot.

2197
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 2: And sure enough, dude, I knew.

2198
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 5: We had a shot.

2199
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 2: I was.

2200
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 4: There was no way at first when I saw that

2201
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 4: game the game started. When I looked at statistics and records,

2202
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 4: New Eng's gonna blow us right out of our stadium.

2203
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 4: We're up ten to nothing and we're feeling good, and

2204
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 4: all of a sudd it was like, oh, we're in

2205
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,719
Speaker 4: uncharted territory. We can't we can't be aggressive. We can't

2206
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 4: do this because that's not us. And all of a sudden,

2207
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 4: New England says, oh, if you're gonna give it to him,

2208
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 4: I don't take it from you.

2209
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 3: And then the secondary, you know, allows gosh, the tight

2210
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 3: ends to Hooper and uh, gosh.

2211
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 2: How does the tight end get wild?

2212
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 5: Od?

2213
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 2: It was nobody there.

2214
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 4: There was no I mean when I say nobody there,

2215
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 4: everybody was on this side of the field. And he's

2216
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 4: the only one over there. And that that that can't happen.

2217
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 4: And Hunter Henry on a wide can coverage. Hunter Henry

2218
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 4: with the twenty eight yard.

2219
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 3: Touchdown, seven receptions, one hundred and fifteen yards, Austin Hooper

2220
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 3: three catches, nine yards.

2221
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Man, Just how does the titand have one hundred and

2222
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 2: fifteen yards receiving?

2223
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 5: Man?

2224
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 2: Just think like four in a row? I think too,

2225
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean a.

2226
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 5: Deep cross the middle twenty five thirty yards.

2227
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's it's interesting.

2228
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 30: I mean, you know, like I said, it's I think

2229
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 30: I think some teams scout us better than we scout

2230
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 30: the other teams, because you know, they played essentially to

2231
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 30: our weaknesses and threw them right where I mean where

2232
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 30: they had to and unfortunately we didn't have enough answers.

2233
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 4: You know, I saw this in the game, tim if

2234
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 4: you guys saw this in the game. So New England

2235
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 4: is throwing the football, throwing the football, Bake throws interception

2236
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 4: for a testdown. All of a sudden, New England lines

2237
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 4: up with two in the backfield and they running ball. Yes,

2238
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 4: and Bengals are struggling against a running game. So New

2239
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 4: England says, we're not gonna throw the ball for the

2240
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 4: next eight plays. And they ran the football, run it down,

2241
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 4: out through, run it down our throat. We got tired,

2242
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 4: tight ends open because now the Bengals are looking for

2243
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 4: a run. So that that tells me that somebody is

2244
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 4: paying attention upstairs, looking down and saying, hey, listen.

2245
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 5: Don't throw the ball no more.

2246
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 4: Listen running football because they struggle with running the foot

2247
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 4: run defense.

2248
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 5: And if we run the football, running.

2249
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 4: Football on him, now we're gonna get aggressive and boom,

2250
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 4: tight ends wide open for a touchdown.

2251
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,960
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2254
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Speaker 3: Let's go out to the phones. Scott is in the

2255
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 3: great state of Illinois. Scott, what's happening?

2256
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 2: Hello?

2257
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 33: Thank you for taking my call, hey, and thank you

2258
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 33: for your support of Ken Anderson to be in the

2259
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 33: Hall of Fame.

2260
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 6: He deserves to be there, so keep it up, please.

2261
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 3: A man, I was on the Pro Football Hall of

2262
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 3: Fame selection committee for ten years, pushing Isaac Curtis, David Folter,

2263
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 3: so many guys.

2264
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 6: I know you were, and I appreciate that. We just don't.

2265
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 33: The Bengals just don't seem to get the respect. I

2266
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 33: just I'm a lifelong Bengals fan. I was born in Cincinnati,

2267
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 33: but my folks were from Chicago, moved back to Chicagoans ten.

2268
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 6: I go to the games. I buy their apparel. You

2269
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 6: guys mentioned earlier. I think our drafting is just terrible.

2270
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 33: I mean, you look back at the offensive lineman we

2271
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 33: drafted Billy Price, uh Cedric Oba, the way he Eric

2272
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 33: Fisher was it Eric Fisherman.

2273
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 9: I I just think that, I, you.

2274
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 33: Know, we I don't want to give Duke Coven credit,

2275
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 33: Jake Fisher.

2276
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I don't want to give Toven credit for.

2277
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 33: Drafting Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase because we had terrible

2278
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 33: teams and there are no brainers. I I just I

2279
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 33: just don't know where this team's going. I'm frustrated. I've

2280
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 33: been to two games down there already this year.

2281
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:41,919
Speaker 6: Do you think there'll be any changes?

2282
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 3: Well, the Brown family cannot be happy now. A Marius

2283
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 3: Mims is an absolute stud. We love him. It's the

2284
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 3: right offense now.

2285
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart is a different story. That was to me.

2286
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 30: It was reach uh agreed, Yeah, I mean they draft

2287
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 30: I think they're drafting by PFF for looking at other publications.

2288
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 30: I mean he had the essentials right, I mean he

2289
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 30: had the size, he had to speed.

2290
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 2: He didn't have the production. That's exactly right.

2291
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 30: Guess what the production now either. And he can't stay healthy.

2292
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 30: So I don't care how good you are. You can't

2293
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 30: stay healthy, You're not You're not a team player.

2294
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 2: For he should be, he should be Miles Garrett and

2295
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 2: he's not.

2296
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 4: And even Miles I mean not not Miles Garrett, but

2297
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 4: are Miles Miles Murphy. Miles Miles Miles Murphy. I mean

2298
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 4: that is a mountain of a man. But he doesn't

2299
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 4: do anything. I mean he's a number one pick and

2300
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 4: he's still trying to find his way on the field.

2301
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 4: And for me, I'm going, if you're going to invest

2302
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 4: time and that kind of money on the guy, that

2303
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 4: guy has got a me and and and let's say

2304
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 4: that there's a twelve play drive. In that twelve play drive,

2305
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 4: he's got to be somewhere in five and six of

2306
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 4: those running plays coming at him to make a play.

2307
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 5: And we're not getting that. We're not getting that produced.

2308
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 3: He's improving as a run defender, but the sacks are

2309
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 3: not there.

2310
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 2: But to the callers point, I mean, are there.

2311
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 30: We're not going to be able to sign many players

2312
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 30: anyways because we're we've got Higgins and Jamar So you've

2313
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 30: got to hit every draft.

2314
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 2: You got a hit pick.

2315
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 30: And so to your point, and David and I talked

2316
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 30: about this offline, they're they're drafting group is the smallest

2317
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 30: I think in the NFL, I mean by far, and

2318
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 30: the coaches have to go out and scout. I think

2319
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 30: they have like three or four scouts. You've got to

2320
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 30: build balk that up because it's just like the Cincinnati Reds.

2321
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 30: You're a small team, small market team. You've got to

2322
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 30: hit on your draft. If you don't, you're not gonna

2323
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 30: be signing to other people, you big players.

2324
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 5: You're right, You're right, man.

2325
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 4: That makes one hundred percent true because that when you

2326
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 4: send your coaching staff out to recruit and and scout, those.

2327
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:47,879
Speaker 5: Guys are coaches.

2328
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 4: They're supposed to be coaching players. They shouldn't be going

2329
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 4: out looking for players to be on their team. You

2330
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 4: have your scouting department is as a handful of guys,

2331
01:57:59,040 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 4: guys that we don't know.

2332
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin is running all that.

2333
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 4: But five guys compared to twenty five and thirty from

2334
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 4: other teams, you're not gonna win them. Five guys can

2335
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 4: only be in five places at one time. You got

2336
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 4: thirty guys from Baltimore that are over the cities looking

2337
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 4: at these these players. They're bringing in high quality players

2338
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 4: when we don't get this because we're all picking from

2339
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 4: the same group of kids every year from college. So

2340
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 4: how are these other kids doing so well from other

2341
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 4: teams in ours? Not because we're picking the wrong guys.

2342
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 4: I won't say they're picking the wrong guys, but we're

2343
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 4: just picking guys that aren't making the grade that we want.

2344
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 4: That we want to see that other teams are getting.

2345
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 2: Enough of them. You know, you get a Chase Brown.

2346
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 2: What in the fourth round?

2347
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 3: You know there are oh yeah, there are strong gold

2348
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 3: on that pick that they did.

2349
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 4: Yes, just not enough. Do we have John in Cedarville?

2350
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 14: Hello, Yes, this call will be recorded.

2351
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 3: It will appreciate the call. Uh yeah, Uh. We're winding

2352
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 3: down here. We've got about three minutes left. And as

2353
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 3: all Bengals fans are frustrated right now, they're angry, they're

2354
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 3: upset three and eight. But to me, I mean, there's

2355
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 3: there's hope here with Joe Burrow coming back. He's got

2356
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 3: to come back Thursday night, Jamar Chase is coming back.

2357
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 3: Let's give the Baltimore Ravens all they can handle on

2358
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 3: Thursday night.

2359
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 5: Thursday night is.

2360
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 4: Going to really define and see where this team it

2361
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 4: really is, whether whether this team is going to win

2362
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 4: the next eight games, seven games, whatever it is. I

2363
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 4: think it's gonna determine on what this team is going

2364
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 4: to look like in the future, because you know, guys

2365
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 4: are going to be freezings after this. There's gonna be

2366
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 4: some players that are you know, contracts may not be renewed,

2367
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 4: and you're you're fighting for a job, you're fighting for

2368
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 4: a position to be on this team. So this is

2369
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 4: the best position a football player for the Cinati Bengals

2370
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 4: could be in because it's going to show whether you're

2371
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:16,080
Speaker 4: going to be here or not come Thursday. And what

2372
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 4: what a what a better team to play against to

2373
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 4: see what you got in the Baltimore Ravens.

2374
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 2: And that's what's incredible.

2375
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 3: They are now tied with the Pittsburgh Steelers atop the

2376
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 3: AFC North at six and five.

2377
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 2: The Bengals are three and eight at.

2378
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 3: Four straight losses and you're only three You're three games

2379
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 3: out of first place with six to go. It's it's

2380
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 3: it's an insurmountable mountain in the Clyde.

2381
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 4: And the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh teams haven't played yet.

2382
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 5: I don't think, No, they haven't. They still got to

2383
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 5: play each other, yes.

2384
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 4: So we those two teams are going to beat each

2385
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 4: other up, yes, and then they still got to play

2386
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 4: some other teams in the AFC. So if the Bengals

2387
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 4: and just get on, who knows what can happen. I

2388
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 4: only think that one team's gonna come out of this

2389
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 4: division for the playoffs, correct, and that's gonna be the

2390
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 4: division winner. So you know, being out three games, it

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Speaker 4: could be two next week. And then Pittsburgh got to

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Speaker 4: play Houston. I mean Pistburg got to play Baltimore twice. Yes,

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Speaker 4: before you know it, the Bengals could be if they're

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Speaker 4: winning right behind, somebody would one or two games in

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Speaker 4: front of behind that team.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been an awful lot of fun here tonight.

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Speaker 2: This was good man. Many thanks to Touchdown Tommy for T.

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Speaker 3: And David Foulter an awesome partner and on behalf of

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Speaker 3: all of us here.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, at Wings and Rings in Milford.

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Speaker 3: This is the Chickster chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening

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Speaker 3: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk presented

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