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Speaker 1: Bronco's Country Tonight.

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Speaker 2: Coming up at the top of the hour, Grant Smith

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Speaker 2: along with Nick Ferguson, looking forward to hearing what they're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about this evening, five six six nine

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Speaker 2: We're going to have another chance for you to win

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Speaker 2: now that we're gonna head out to the KWA Common

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Speaker 2: Spirit Health hotline and bring on a friend of the program,

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Speaker 2: Parker Gabriel from the Dever Posts, And of course he

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Speaker 2: was fresh off being out at the owners meetings in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: Parker around with David Ryan.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: How are you, guys, Joe do good?

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Speaker 4: Do a good Parker, Thanks for taking time. So what

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Speaker 4: do you think about the owners meetings? What were the

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Speaker 4: two biggest takeaways for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of them was just sort of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the most important thing that happened

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Speaker 3: to organizationally for the Broncos was just a messaging from

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Speaker 3: Greg Penner and Demani Leach, primarily around the stadium project

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Speaker 3: at Burnham Yard and just the sort of the sense

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Speaker 3: Water and trying to get that, you know, as a

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Speaker 3: the community benefits agreement process. That's you know, sort of

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Speaker 3: city state team all, you know, neighborhood community, all of

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Speaker 3: the constituents, they sort of you know, it was it

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Speaker 3: was white pressure, but notable pressure on hey listen, like

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Speaker 3: It a little bit quicker of a clip if we're

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Speaker 3: going to have a stadium built by twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 3: And then I think, you know, for all of the

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Speaker 3: there are some interesting stuff about Jonah Ellis getting some

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Speaker 3: also just the reiteration that bo Nix's is, you know,

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Speaker 3: start their off season program on May fourth, let alone

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man pro football talks, Mike Florio seems

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Speaker 2: to paint us a different picture yesterday.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of that?

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Speaker 3: Uh that at first I was like, this is a

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Speaker 3: he maybe got April fools in some way sham. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I mean that the Broncos are not bringing in Aaron

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Speaker 3: It was a little strange, And I don't, you know,

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Speaker 5: Stuff and all that.

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Speaker 3: But just the fact that it was sort of rooted in,

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Speaker 5: Problem at all.

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Speaker 4: When when you think about some of the comments made

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Speaker 4: not like the phrase, you guys, ran it back, Let's

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Speaker 4: run it back. He is pretty obvious he doesn't like that.

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Speaker 4: But he went out of his way also, and we

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Speaker 5: What did you think of that statement?

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Speaker 3: Like the work that Dobbins did or the first half

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Speaker 3: I don't think they were like across the board, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what happens when you're familiar with

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Speaker 3: you're going to get that impact from him against what

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Speaker 3: They've made no secret of that, and so I don't

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Speaker 2: So are you, I guess ultimately, as we were watching

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and

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Speaker 5: I mean they've.

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Speaker 3: that was not a big surprise, but I think just

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Speaker 3: the big trade for Jalen Wanda, Like, the extent of

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Speaker 3: it I think was a little surprising. The general blueprint

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Speaker 2: Last one I have for you just wanted to We

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Speaker 1: What did you think of that deal?

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Speaker 2: Did you think was relatively fair under the circumstances, And

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Speaker 2: what are some of your expectations of what he'd been able.

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Speaker 1: To do here for the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: The I think he's going to do a lot, first

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Speaker 3: but just the ability to move him around the formation,

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Speaker 5: Take the top off.

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Speaker 3: So I think he helped in a number of ways offensively.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, I think to me, like personally,

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Speaker 3: it was a pretty high acquisition cost. The thing about that, though,

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Speaker 5: Like he's a tough guy.

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Speaker 3: He's good in the locker room. He's not, you know,

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Speaker 3: He's not high maintenance or hasn't been in his career.

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Speaker 3: So you just Sean said, he lumped it into all

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Speaker 3: just trying to get over the hump. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: that's when you say, hey, listen, we'll pay a little

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Speaker 3: they're thrilled about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's great stuff. Parker really appreciate the time. Man,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll talk again.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate a Parker sounds good? Then he's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: I don't to the point in discussion we had prior

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Speaker 2: They had specific things they were looking for. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: just play on the field, it was also the fit

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Speaker 1: Did you hear Sean?

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Speaker 2: We played the cut of Sean talking about the acquisition

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Speaker 2: of Jalen what he does. He was also asked about,

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Speaker 2: like where he's played. I thought this was interesting. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to play it for you, especially as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: So if you guys said, where does he play man,

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Speaker 6: He's played everywhere. I've seen him outside as a tremendous

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Speaker 6: route runner inside the route tree is pretty expansive. I'd

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Speaker 6: say I just said it. The best thing that I

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Speaker 6: think he does is he's explosive. He's dynamic. A lot

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Speaker 6: of times the guys run fast, but I think he

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Speaker 6: him playing inside in the slot, You'll see him play outside.

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Speaker 6: We'll have speed packages that'll feature you know, we'll have

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Speaker 5: And so that we don't have. We just played.

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Speaker 1: I always get a chuckle out of that, because Sean,

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Speaker 4: absolutely absolutely, because if you're going to try to bring

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Speaker 2: If you were going to bet a certain amount of

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Speaker 4: He'll move more this year with Roncos than he has

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Speaker 5: So if you're going to move him, then he has

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Speaker 4: I think I think when I when I think of him,

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Speaker 4: But so I think he'll play X, but I do

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Speaker 4: You'll see him move. I think you'll probably see some

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Speaker 4: you know you're you're now. The coaches are going to

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Speaker 2: He mentioned we had Parker on Greg Penner in some

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Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the more.

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Speaker 2: Interesting things to come out of that, and it was

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Speaker 1: First of all, a lot of work.

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Speaker 7: It's you know, Carrie Demani tim A lot of folks

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Speaker 1: We've got to have a lot of support from partner

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Speaker 5: With the site.

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Speaker 3: Has a support been so far and sort of do

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, the support has been good and everybody I

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Speaker 2: A lot of different parties with different interests. What do

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Speaker 4: Look at the look on your face? What do you

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think what Parker said was right in

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Speaker 1: That feels like a strong way to frame this.

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Speaker 2: But there might be some people going like, well, while

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Speaker 2: you're doing this, can you you know, can I get this?

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Speaker 2: And can we get this? And it's like, listen, we're

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Speaker 2: the the location of interest. They haven't officially named. This

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Speaker 2: this is the location of interest, but they have not

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Speaker 4: No, so you're saying, you're saying you think there's a

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Speaker 1: No, I think ultimately get done. It's just it sounds

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Speaker 1: I heard a little bit of frustration.

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Speaker 3: I mean it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, No, I don't think you read that into it.

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Speaker 4: I think I think there probably is, has been, and

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Speaker 5: You've got.

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Speaker 4: My guess is you have people that you're negotiating with

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Speaker 5: I think he'll be more than up to the task.

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Speaker 4: I think he's probably dealt with that in his past life,

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Speaker 5: And as you heard him.

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Speaker 4: Say, there there are several agendas here, and that I

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Speaker 5: Sure, we're talking.

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Speaker 4: About building a multi billion dollars stadium, right.

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Speaker 1: And you're you're moving Denver water.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's there are, there are a lot

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Speaker 4: And that's always the case, always the case. We not

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Speaker 4: take that comment right there and save it forever. There's

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Speaker 4: some politicians in it that are interested in what's in

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Speaker 4: it for me? That never have you said anything more

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Speaker 2: Well, you're better late than never. April second, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 1: But that's concerning for.

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Speaker 2: Me a little bit, because, yeah, they said out and

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Speaker 1: Quite a full year since they announced this thing. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If I'm the city of Denver, I don't I mean.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got to do what they gotta do, but I.

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Speaker 2: I just I want to get this thing done. I

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Speaker 1: I want to make it official.

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Speaker 2: I want to get this thing on track and headed

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Speaker 4: I would be very, very surprised aka shocked if the

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Speaker 4: And again I think, yeah, ideally you'd like you'd like

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what will happen if. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and what's the reason you're holding it up.

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Speaker 5: Now, if you.

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Speaker 4: Talk about being on a losing side from a public

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Speaker 4: That's that is not a winning strategy. I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that at all.

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Speaker 4: Business is business, and you want to try to cut

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Speaker 5: I get that.

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Speaker 4: But as you said, this is the broncos it's an

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Speaker 4: I would not want to be holding the rope on

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Speaker 2: home openy Saturday game against the Phillies at Course Field.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're excited to be down there tomorrow before

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Speaker 1: We'll right back on.

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Speaker 4: KWA hasn't been a four year, good four year stretch.

444
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Speaker 4: All right, it's been there's been a lot more down

445
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 4: days than up days. I give you all that, but

446
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Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still excited to go down and see

447
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Speaker 4: what they can do.

448
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Speaker 5: And then we'll see what happens. Yeah.

449
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Speaker 2: Well, we talked about at the beginning of the show

450
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: the formula for the Rockies. You get good pitching, right,

451
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Speaker 2: you give yourself.

452
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Speaker 5: They've had that so far, five to.

453
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Speaker 2: Six innings every single I mean, it's not gonna happen

454
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Speaker 2: every single time, but you're gonna give yourself a good

455
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Speaker 2: shot because you're you're not the Dodgers. You're not spinning

456
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Speaker 2: up to what the Dodgers the Mets to the Yankees,

457
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Speaker 2: and that, I mean, it.

458
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Speaker 1: Is what it is. That's what l baseball, that's what

459
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Speaker 1: it is.

460
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Speaker 2: So but you're spending twenty first in Major League Baseball,

461
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Speaker 2: which means you should be able to compete. Right, we're

462
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Speaker 2: talking about pro baseball players, so good good pitching, have

463
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Speaker 2: a decent bullpen.

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Speaker 1: And I loved your point at the beginning of the show.

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Speaker 2: And you've talked about this a few times, you know,

466
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Speaker 2: I said, sometimes, don't go it's not all about the

467
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Speaker 2: home runs, sometimes play some small ball, steal some bases,

468
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Speaker 2: move base runners, put yourself in position, play some high,

469
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Speaker 2: high leverage opportunities.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what they've done in the past has

471
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Speaker 5: not worked.

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Speaker 4: No, and so in what they've done the early part

473
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Speaker 4: of the season, more so than I remember the last

474
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Speaker 4: handful of years, is they they've when they're on, they're

475
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Speaker 4: trying to steal bases. They're trying to be aggressive in

476
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Speaker 4: how they play. So, hey, who knows how this year

477
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Speaker 4: is going to turn out. They've got a brand new

478
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Speaker 4: front office. I'm inclined to get the front office a

479
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Speaker 4: chance to show what they can do.

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Speaker 5: Period.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we're gonna Walker montfort On.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

483
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Speaker 4: Good for well, I guess good for us. Maybe that's

484
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Speaker 4: so good for him now it'll be good for him.

485
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Speaker 4: I mean he's there. I look at this. I would

486
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Speaker 4: look at this season as opportunity. Yes, I mean they

487
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Speaker 4: were so god awful last year in terms of number

488
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Speaker 4: of wins.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you just think about this, if you

490
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Speaker 5: could win.

491
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Speaker 4: Sixty two games by Major League Baseball standards.

492
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Speaker 5: That's a horrible year, right, horrible year. You've lost one hundred.

493
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Speaker 4: But if they win sixty two games and they won

494
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Speaker 4: forty three last year.

495
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Speaker 5: That's a nineteen nineteen game improvement.

496
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Speaker 4: So I want to see how this how this thing

497
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Speaker 4: plays out, and I'm I'm going to give the front

498
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Speaker 4: office a chance to look and say and tell us,

499
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Speaker 4: like tell by telling us, you're telling Rockies fans, hey,

500
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Speaker 4: here's here's how we see this thing playing out.

501
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Speaker 5: Here's a blueprint, here's what we're trying to do. Because

502
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Speaker 5: I think they're smarter if they do that.

503
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Speaker 4: Even though it puts them somewhat on the record, I

504
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Speaker 4: understand that. That's what I would do tomorrow talking on

505
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Speaker 4: our show, I'd say, here's here's what we're trying to do.

506
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Speaker 4: Here's we like our young sort of nucleus. Here's why

507
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Speaker 4: we like them. There's there's some of the young cats I.

508
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Speaker 1: Like too well.

509
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Speaker 2: And you're you're trying some different processes too. I don't

510
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Speaker 2: know how long that's gonna take to get an effect.

511
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Speaker 2: But you brought in Pauldy Potesta, You're bringing in some

512
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Speaker 2: out outside voices, right, you brought in some new.

513
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Speaker 1: Pitching, your new starters, right.

514
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Speaker 2: So now that that's one of the things I'm excited

515
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Speaker 2: to talk to Walker Montfort He's expected a Joys around

516
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Speaker 2: noon tomorrow. So I'm excited to talk to you about that,

517
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Speaker 2: about how long Rockies fans should hang in there with

518
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: new processes, because sometimes new processes do take a little

519
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Speaker 2: bit of time.

520
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Speaker 1: You've been doing the same thing for how long, Right,

521
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: it's been the.

522
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Speaker 2: Same guys, and even when it's not exactly the same

523
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: people in charge, you just tend to shuffle around the

524
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Speaker 2: people internally to I mean, it's still the same messaging,

525
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: it's still the same processes. So that's what I'm excited

526
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Speaker 2: to see, all right, at least you trying something different,

527
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Speaker 2: see if it works out. Did you hear Sean Payton

528
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Speaker 2: talking about his experience with flag football, Yes, buddy, such

529
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Speaker 2: a great such a great reference here to Home Alone.

530
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Speaker 1: Here's what he said that was.

531
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Speaker 6: I think this you remember the Home Alone series and

532
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Speaker 6: McAuley culkin was insight. Well, McCauley culkin was the international team,

533
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Speaker 6: and I felt like CoA carbone eye were the two

534
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Speaker 6: guys out side getting hit in the head of the iron,

535
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 6: gripping over the garden hose. It's it's an entirely different game.

536
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 6: It was kind of cool to be around those guys

537
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 6: like that was a big deal. I think when this

538
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Speaker 6: first was announced, there was this feeling there would be

539
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Speaker 6: ten NFL players on that roster, and I'll be surprised

540
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 6: if there's one. I just think, I think we have

541
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Speaker 6: plenty of players that can acclimate, but it's going to

542
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Speaker 6: take a month or two. And then if you're one

543
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Speaker 6: of those players, do you have that month or two

544
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Speaker 6: if you're training for that, you're not training, you know,

545
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Speaker 6: And so I just think it's it's in a good spot.

546
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Speaker 4: His mind works so fast, yep, that he formulates what

547
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Speaker 4: he wants to say, and that he's already said it

548
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Speaker 4: in his mind. So he's on to another point, but

549
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: it hasn't finished, it hasn't come out of his pie hole, right,

550
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Speaker 4: So I mean he's.

551
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was funny. Though.

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Speaker 4: When I when I heard that today, I was like, yeah,

553
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Speaker 4: that's that's a pretty good, pretty good announce.

554
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Speaker 2: I mean, is what it felt like right watching that,

555
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Speaker 2: And that has to be a bit humbling for a

556
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Speaker 2: guy that has coached as long as he has to

557
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, I know football, I mean I know football,

558
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: and then you get out there and you're like, I

559
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: don't know this football, not not really, even if you

560
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Speaker 2: understand the rules, and he spent a lot he talked

561
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Speaker 2: about he spent a lot of time learning the rules,

562
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Speaker 2: but it just played different.

563
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Speaker 4: We have plenty, we have plenty of athletes that can

564
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Speaker 4: go compete in flag football and do great. So I

565
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Speaker 4: would tend to I have never been really in favor

566
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Speaker 4: of NFL guys playing when it was announced that.

567
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Speaker 5: It was going to be a sport in the Olympics.

568
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Speaker 4: We've got plenty of athletes that will tear up I

569
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Speaker 4: think the rest of the world in that regard, so

570
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 4: let them go.

571
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Speaker 2: But you know, to his point, because I remember when

572
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Speaker 2: it was announced and we talked about it, it was like, well, gosh,

573
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Speaker 2: of course NFL players would represent better than I mean,

574
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: you're right, maybe NFL teams not flag though apparently not,

575
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Speaker 2: and I'll be the first to admit it, it looked different.

576
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Speaker 5: It's like, here's the thing. It's like saying.

577
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Speaker 4: Because a lot a lot of teams will say this

578
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: every single year in the offseason. We've won this seven

579
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Speaker 4: on seven tournament, We've won that seven on seven tournament.

580
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Speaker 5: And while I think there is benefit.

581
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Speaker 4: Some benefit to seven on seven, seven on seven, competitively,

582
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Speaker 4: I do not think there's tremendous benefit from getting the

583
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 4: team ready to play, because it's not you know, if

584
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: you're not careful, your quarterback can get into very very

585
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: bad habits, very lazy habits. Your receivers can get into

586
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: bad habits in terms of release points. So no flight football.

587
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Speaker 4: I can see where Sean would be like, wow, if

588
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: you're getting ready for this, so you're not getting ready

589
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: to play in the.

590
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Speaker 1: NFL one hundred percent you.

591
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Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked about Tom Brady after

592
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: the fact saying that they should change the rules to

593
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Speaker 2: align more with NFL or with with with football, as

594
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Speaker 2: he like like, well, just not, you know, not not

595
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Speaker 2: as more like seven on seven where I mean, like

596
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Speaker 2: we've seen skeleton right where you're you're out there and

597
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: then you're you're you're not tackling anybody during the course

598
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: of OTA's or training camp, but you're running, you're running

599
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: plays where it's an offense versus defense. But there's not

600
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Speaker 2: the extra added thing of well, if the ball is

601
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Speaker 2: hiked to one quarterback and he hands it to another

602
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: quarterback and then that quarterback can run, they.

603
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Speaker 5: Have jumped it up a little.

604
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have jumped it up a little, but I

605
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Speaker 4: mean for people to want I mean, I would not

606
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Speaker 4: be in favor. Let let seven on that flag football.

607
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 4: Let those rules stand. You're not trying to you're not

608
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: trying to turn flag football into a seven on seven

609
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: competition that we see when you go see NFL training

610
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: camp and there's on Skelly. I mean, that's a That's

611
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's a totally different sort of thing. Yeah,

612
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: you got to hike it to a guy and he

613
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: can hand it off to a guy who can then.

614
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Speaker 5: Throw it in you know, the run it Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

615
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 5: But I'm all for a lot.

616
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Speaker 4: Of people that for whatever reason wouldn't maybe get a

617
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: chance to go play in the NFL. Let let them

618
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: tear up flag football nationally. I mean, who would be

619
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Speaker 4: their biggest competitor? What country right now off the top

620
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Speaker 4: of your head, great question, We really don't know. I honestly,

621
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Speaker 4: I guess I guess I could look at the world standing.

622
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Speaker 5: I would say probably Paraguay, but it's the first not sure.

623
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Speaker 1: That's a great point.

624
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Speaker 2: A lot of athletes in Paraguay underrated state rate shape too.

625
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: A reminder also, the final four set in the men's tournament,

626
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Speaker 2: Illinois Yukon, Michigan Arizona.

627
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Speaker 1: Can't we termam an?

628
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Speaker 2: Updates are presented by expending Dave Smith Motors low prices

629
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630
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Speaker 3: Man.

631
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Speaker 2: That is going to be an action packed Saturday, Dave.

632
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: You got to the final four. You've got to Nuggets

633
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: taking on San Antonio, right, and then you've got the

634
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: Abs and the Stars also I think one o'clock.

635
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: Oh, the Abs and Stars start at once.

636
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: Yes, what are we doing? What are we doing here?

637
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Speaker 2: You confirmed that real quick. I know it's at the

638
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Speaker 2: same time. I just don't know if it's exact same time.

639
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Speaker 4: But well, if it's at the same time, wouldn't it

640
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: the same time?

641
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Speaker 2: Well, I I know they're playing. It could have been

642
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: like a twelve thirty start. And then so they're they're

643
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Speaker 2: going to time. I mean either're playing at the same time.

644
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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they start at the same time, but they

645
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: are starting at the same time, so exactly one o'clock

646
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Speaker 2: for both.

647
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Speaker 5: I got it. I got it.

648
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Speaker 2: That's gonna be an action packed Saturday. You're looking forward?

649
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean, we're you know, tomorrow's

650
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: gonna be mostly baseball talk for us, but for a moment,

651
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: what's going to peak your interest Saturday around that time?

652
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm I'm going to be at the

653
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: Nuggets game. That's true, So I'm gonna be watching the Nuggets.

654
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: I'll be trying to follow the ABS as best we can.

655
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's for four to nine local time

656
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: for the next game for the.

657
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Speaker 5: First Yeah, you're gonna be home. I thought you said Avs.

658
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Speaker 3: No.

659
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: No, the Abbs Nuggs play at the exact same time

660
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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna be at the Nuggets game and

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Speaker 4: trying to follow the ABS as best I can, And

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Speaker 4: you said, well, they start at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Final Four, so.

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Speaker 4: I'll be able to get home, Yeah, and watch those

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Speaker 4: we must see TV.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 4: This is about as competitive at a high level of

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Speaker 4: a Final Four as I can remember in a long time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, no, I mean normally, and I've said this before, Normally,

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Speaker 4: at least in my mind, you have one team that

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Speaker 4: is good, maybe not a clear cut favor, but they're

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Speaker 4: the favorite. If they play really well, they're gonna they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be hard to beat. Some is gonna have to

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Speaker 4: beat them. I just don't say it.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Michigan and Arizona both are monsters. I don't think you

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Speaker 4: can count Yukon out at all with that coach and

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Speaker 4: how they were able to come back, and they've got

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Speaker 4: championship pedigree. This will be three final fours in four years,

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Speaker 4: right for Hurley and then Illinois I've liked. I didn't

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Speaker 4: know much about them, and I know they didn't have

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Speaker 4: the they didn't have the toughest path in the tournament

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Speaker 4: to get there, but they got there. You've got Toyakovic's son,

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Speaker 4: who's an excellent score, They've got size inside. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I just think it's two hllacious matchups.

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Speaker 1: And tells you everything.

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Speaker 2: By the spread, I mean Illinois minus one and a half,

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Speaker 2: Michigan's minus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I've been on Arizona. I know you have to.

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Speaker 2: You pivoted a little bit once you found out that

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Speaker 2: I liked Arizona, But I've been on Arizona the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Michigan's one of those teams though, if anybody's gonna knock the.

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Speaker 4: Michigan, it shouldn't surprise you if Michigan wins YEP, it

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Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me if Arizona wins, and I could say

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Speaker 4: the same thing about the other game.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the champion comes out of that that

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Speaker 1: pair though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah maybe maybe. I mean, how did Illinois do against

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Speaker 4: Michigan twice? I mean, Michigan only lost one conference game,

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Speaker 4: But were the two games that Illinois played against Michigan

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Speaker 4: competitive games? I don't, I don't know. Illinois is playing

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Speaker 4: really good basketball.

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Speaker 2: If old they lost to Michigan eighty four to seventy

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Speaker 2: in February.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me see what.

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Speaker 5: The other I think that's it only played once.

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Speaker 2: I think they only played once. Okay, that's all. That's

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Speaker 2: all I'm seeing here. So yeah, they only played once.

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Speaker 2: So in February they got beat pretty soundly by fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So where was that game? Ann Arbor?

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Speaker 1: That was that was actually in Illinois?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Champaign. Yeah,