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Speaker 2: Sloading here on seven hundred w wel W. As you know,

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Speaker 2: the deep freeze held over for a second week. I

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Speaker 2: happening right now. Another one to three or possibly even

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Speaker 2: more inches of snow coming tomorrow. We're in the thicket

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Speaker 2: things right now. Doesn't look like we're gonna get warm

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Speaker 2: enough to do much for an extended period till maybe

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Speaker 2: a week from now, if that we shall see. Jumping

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Speaker 2: in right now with the from the car show on

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Speaker 2: fifty five KRC Dane Donovan, Donovan's Taranauto and Ridge and

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Speaker 2: Blue Ash. Because every car I got, like three people

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Speaker 2: in my family all their cars are dead because of

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Speaker 2: the cold. It's happened all over the place. Dane, the

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Speaker 2: busiest guy in Cincinnati. There's no question about it. How

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Speaker 2: full is your parking.

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Speaker 3: Lot, Scott? It is? Yeah, we are, we are well,

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Speaker 3: just we don't have a spot. We don't have a spot.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing too, because typically it's a battery issue,

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Speaker 2: because we know the cold drains battery power. You go

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Speaker 2: it's probably too late.

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Speaker 4: Can you even get a battery anywhere these days?

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Speaker 2: And iman with with all the cold, as much people's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you can still get batteries. Most of

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Speaker 3: your newer vehicles now have what's they have it, what's

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Speaker 3: what's called an a GM battery. It's not lead acid.

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Speaker 3: It's a dry cell battery, which of course involves more

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Speaker 3: cost because of all the electronics on these cars. These

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Speaker 3: cars demand a lot more of of vehicle battery and

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Speaker 3: you still can't get them, but they are significantly higher,

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Speaker 3: you know. It's you're not paying forty nine bucks for

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Speaker 3: a battery anymore in your vehicle. They're significantly higher, you know.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing that a lot of people don't

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Speaker 3: realize the average life of a battery in our region

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Speaker 3: You know a lot of people go, I just had

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Speaker 3: you had to replace four years ago. Well that's that's

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Speaker 3: only four Well that's the average life of a battery.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we don't realize that. You know,

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Speaker 3: when we plug our phones in every night, that you know,

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Speaker 3: but your car demands a lot more of your battery

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Speaker 3: with all the electronics and the power doors and the

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Speaker 3: radios and the backup cameras, so you know, they are

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Speaker 3: used a lot more. Some vehicles even have two batteries

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Speaker 3: because a lot of these cars have the.

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Speaker 5: You know, the the uh like a hybrid.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you've got your hybrids and then you got

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Speaker 3: the ones that you know will shut off, you know,

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Speaker 3: and then restart when you let off the brake. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's there's there's a lot more demand. And the other

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Speaker 3: thing about a battery is and a lot of people

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Speaker 3: don't realize this is one. It's it's absolutely important that

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the cells just die. So you know,

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Speaker 3: it's very important that you get it tested because again,

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Speaker 3: the extreme heat, extreme cold put puts a lot of

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Speaker 3: hard work on your battery, Dane.

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Speaker 4: Don what's worse for the car that's cold weather.

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Speaker 3: The heat cold the cold is is a lot is

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Speaker 3: always been this debate that you know that you know,

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Speaker 3: important thing. You know, you want to that that discosity.

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Speaker 3: That oil when it's as cold as it is is

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Speaker 3: So most of us nowadays have the remote start, and yes,

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Speaker 3: Just let it run an idle a little bit, let

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Speaker 4: Or Yeah, it used to be back in.

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Speaker 2: But you'd have to let that warm up. It's like

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Speaker 2: I got to warm the car up, otherwise it's gonna

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Speaker 2: Less less true on fuel injected cars. But still to

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Speaker 4: My son called his car.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't started as a hybrid and he was worded, was

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Speaker 4: That's a separate thing. Entirely. Get a new bet.

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Speaker 2: He did, and his friend had one too, and her

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Speaker 2: car died and uh, you know she has a Honda

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Speaker 2: learning that there's a new battery in there and processing

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Speaker 2: not really a daunting test getting the battery exchanging because

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Speaker 2: you get a you know, your deposit back. It's called

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Speaker 2: is when you bring that a return that it's a

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Speaker 2: if you can find a battery and know I do

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Speaker 4: It's just an easy thing for me to do.

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Speaker 2: But I could see where you're you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: There's some nuances, so it's not just like the old

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Speaker 2: mentioned you do computer control batteries. There's a little bit

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Speaker 3: Yes, correct, absolutely, And that's the thing again when I'm

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Speaker 3: we have low voltage and we're not getting a proper voltage.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, your airbag light comes on, your check engine

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Speaker 3: a lot of these vehicles, especially like you mentioned the hybrids,

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Speaker 3: The battery is completely dead. Well none of the electronics work,

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Speaker 2: It's also with Donovan's Tyronado on Ridge and Blue Ash.

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Speaker 2: Coldest stretch of the year or so far right here

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Speaker 2: needs to be you get the jumper cables out here

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Speaker 2: battery packs that you can charge up, leave it your

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Speaker 2: glub box if you need you recommend.

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Speaker 3: Those absolutely absolutely. I see far less damage to other

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, friend of mindset, I am you

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Speaker 3: I highly recommend the jumper packs now. We have we

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Speaker 3: highly recommend them now. Now, the one that we use

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Speaker 3: mean it's you know, it's expensive. It's like about two

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Speaker 3: packs than using jumper cases.

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Speaker 2: It's got to remember to charge them every once in

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. It checks itself. You can't screw that up.

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Speaker 2: Unlike jumper cables. You do it wrong. And because cars

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Speaker 2: serious monetary damage to your vehicle. Yeah, you don't want

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Speaker 2: Make sure you got one of those battery back up

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Speaker 4: Thanks again, brother, I appreciate.

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Speaker 3: You, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: All the best. Go back to work and get some batteries.

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Speaker 2: There you go, good luck getting one. Oh they said

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Speaker 2: in and speaking of cold weather, that we're in right now,

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Speaker 4: Next lonly seven hundred W. All right, welcome to it.

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Speaker 2: Back to the grind Scott's Loan Show on seven hundred

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Speaker 2: w WELW lotsa cover today. Seth Walsh is your council

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Speaker 2: member if you live in Cincinnati, you know, with all

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Speaker 4: How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk to cols member Walsh about that at

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Speaker 2: ten oh seven here on the show on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Later on, Jeff Carr locked on Red's a Jueno Suarez

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Speaker 2: If you can't start at all, then you got real problems,

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Speaker 4: Anytimes it gets as cold as this love playing that

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Speaker 2: That is when we call the radio business kids a sounder,

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Speaker 2: the Ohio sounder.

433
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 4: Anytime you get.

434
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: Below freezing, the weather's forecast would be sponsored and need

435
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 2: to play that under the forecast because as you may recall,

436
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: you go or Sohio pays the toll the toe rather

437
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: the toe that that the toll the toe you go

438
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: or Sohio pays the toll, And used to be a

439
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 2: thing that your fuel line would freeze up. Fuel line

440
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: freeze up. There's no joke back in the day, and

441
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: you don't hear about that anymore, and you don't have

442
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: to play that old school sounder as we call it.

443
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: And that is simply because modern cars really don't have

444
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 2: that problem anymore. A couple of reasons of why down

445
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: you don't. You can start to worry about the battery.

446
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 2: There's no easy way to run a dead battery. But

447
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 2: as far as fuel line freeze up goes, it was

448
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 2: actually a thing. A number of reasons is because you

449
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: and you think about it, well, gasoline, doesn't you know

450
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 2: I have gas gas in my garage for my you know, snowblower,

451
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: my lawn mover. It might be that's not frozen because

452
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: I think, you know, petroleum is good to like forty

453
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: to fifty below something like that, which is certainly a

454
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: lot colder than we're getting it.

455
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 4: So we don't see that. But the problem, the problems

456
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: back in the day is science. So back then ice

457
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 4: crystals from water would get into the fuel supply and

458
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: then in the fuel lines, and then you know, when

459
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: you had less typically less gasoline in your tank, you'd

460
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 4: have more percentage of water and the waters would freeze

461
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: cause the problems, which is why today and it's still true,

462
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 4: is to make sure that you keep that gas can

463
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 4: topped off. Two things.

464
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: It gives you weight in the back, which is crue crucial,

465
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: but all the impurities and stuff could cause some issues

466
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: with your fuel pump and everything else. So you want

467
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: to make sure you have a full tank of gas

468
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: when the weather's just cold. It says, oh, reasonably close

469
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 2: more than half is what they say. So back then

470
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 2: you get low and that stuff would freeze up. And

471
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: we just don't see this more because refineries are better

472
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: at producing fuel with fewer impurities. Again, the science got better.

473
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: We also have more pipelines stuff, and that tends to

474
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: add to it as well, believe it or not, So

475
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: another you know, thumb up for pipelines and getting the

476
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: fuel to where it needs to be the spital of

477
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: the protests. You also had the fact that we we

478
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how long ago we started doing this.

479
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: But you know, your reason the press gas goes up

480
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: in the fall and in the spring is because they

481
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: start to switch blends, so you have the summer and

482
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: you have the winter, which is part of this too,

483
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: but mainly it's because back in the day you had

484
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: a carburetor in your car, and those who are more

485
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: vulnerable to a fuelie freezing. So with fuel injection you

486
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: get better pressure, better flow, and less ice as a

487
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: result of that too, although if you have diesel, that's

488
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 2: a whole different thing because there's paraffin wax in there

489
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: that gels up and that causes a problem. But frozen

490
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: gasoline is extremely rare, so that's why you don't hear

491
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: that noise anymore. There you go and if you're young,

492
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: going what the hell is that? And now you know

493
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: something you don't have to. Yeah, we'll worry about a

494
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: whole bunch of different stuff we didn't have to back

495
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: in the day. And so it goes, and so it goes.

496
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: But thanks to Dane for popping on this morning talks

497
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: about this. One of the things that was speculated with

498
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: the snow and the deep freeze it continues, is on

499
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: this date in nineteen seventy seven, speaking going the way back,

500
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm doing like a I don't know,

501
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: a retrospective this morning. You're in the first few minutes

502
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: of the show. Generally I don't wax that poetic about history,

503
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: but I do enjoy history.

504
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: I don't.

505
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: Living in the past is different than just kind of

506
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: mention it it. But in nineteen seventy seven, we had

507
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: the Ohio River freeze over and a number of people

508
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: who may still be around walked on the Ohio River.

509
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't know when it froze before that, because we

510
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: tend to look at it. But are we going to

511
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: have a circumstance coming up in the next few days

512
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: where you can actually walk out across the Ohio River

513
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: And the answer is probably not for two reasons. The

514
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: first reason is back in seventy seven, we had fifty

515
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: eight consecutive hours I said fifty eight hours without the

516
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: temperature getting above zero, not freezing zero. That means fifty

517
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: eight straight hours of temperatures that were sub zero in

518
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: a stretch where it was actually actual temperature was not

519
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: the wind chill, not the fields like not the fields

520
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 2: twenty five below zero, it's the actual temperature, and in

521
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: places you had ice at least a foot thick. We

522
00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: had three consecutive weeks of snow on the ground. Last

523
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: ward to twenty twenty six, we've had what a week

524
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: of snow down and a week of freezing tempts with

525
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: you know, we're starting a second week here, so we

526
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: got a long long way to go, and it doesn't

527
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: look like it because a week from now it's gonna

528
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: looks like it's gonna be in the forties. So we

529
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: will not have that deep, deep, deep freeze necessary to

530
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: freeze the Ohio River. Now, maybe in the edges for sure,

531
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: not out in the middle. And I think I said

532
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: there are two things, so this is where we've never

533
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: seen this again. It could be sub zero from month.

534
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: We could get a forecast. Who knows February is still young, right,

535
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: We're on the second day. And that fat bastard Phil

536
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: I guess he saw a show we get six more

537
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: weeks of winter. So if you care about that, more

538
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: on that in just a second, and I look at it,

539
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: go okay. The big reason is, can you imagine this

540
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: day and age when we are worried so much about

541
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: children and safety and all the hand ringing and thinking,

542
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: these are more dangerous times than it was in the past.

543
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: I would say, check yourself, because we could have a

544
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: month of subzero temperatures and they said the Ohio River

545
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: could freeze all the way down to the bed and

546
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: there would still be don't go out on the eye,

547
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: don't because it's dangerous out there, and you'd probably have

548
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: armed guards. Ice would be protecting us from ice. They

549
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't be protecting us from from immigrants, legal immigrants. They'd

550
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: be protecting the ice would be here to protect us

551
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: from ice. They'd have soldiers lined up on the Ohio

552
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: River at gunpoint to shoot anyone who dares walk out

553
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: in the earth because it's two quote unquote too dangerous.

554
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: Now back then, people and we have, by the way,

555
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 2: a lot better technology now when it comes to, you know,

556
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: protecting yourself from the cold, and back then it was like,

557
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, you were like a wool hat and

558
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: some wool gloves. Today we've got cortex, We've got different

559
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: layers and fabrics and heated jackets and everything else.

560
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: We're good. We're good.

561
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 5: Now.

562
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: You fall through the ice, unless you have one of

563
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: those specialized suits on, you're not gonna make it. But

564
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: my point is, we just we live in fear all

565
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: the time. Now, there's no way in hell that they

566
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't anybody be allowed on the Ohio River. I don't

567
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: care if it's cold for a half a year. It

568
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: just we don't live in those times anymore. Now you

569
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: may want to you know, who's gonna stop me? Yeah,

570
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: you'd be surprised. Somebody would call the police and you'd

571
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: be out there with a arresting you for a publican

572
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: d terrorizing fish. I don't know what it would be

573
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: walking on water, frozen water. Nonetheless, Groundhog Day is here.

574
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: The Big Man saw his shadow or didn't say. I

575
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: always forget how it works. It's just a stupid ritual.

576
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: But you know it's winter when you see punk Sa

577
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: Tawny Phil getting yanked out of a hole in the

578
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: middle of winter in Pennsylvania, and we have six more

579
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: weeks in winter. Now, if you don't like that message,

580
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: the good news is we have a conflicting work. We're

581
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: kind of like meteorologists. The other rat came out of

582
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: the hole, and this would be a Buckeye Chuck, Buckeye

583
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: Chuck Ingram do some of the AI Chuck Ingram's voices.

584
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: The voice of Buckeye Chuck would be fantastic anyway. Buckeye

585
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: Chuck says, no, we're gonna have an early spring. So

586
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: whatever roadent you want to believe, or Marrimount or whatever

587
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: they are, you want to believe, there's your answer.

588
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 5: Now.

589
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: I bring this up because I don't I often I

590
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: don't think about Groundhog Day. I knew I saw it

591
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: on the counter, and okay, I don't really care. But

592
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: I did have a weird dream on a Saturday. I

593
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: must have been there. Maybe it was Friday. It doesn't

594
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: matter weird until you ever have this dream. So I

595
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: had this dream and I thought it was kind of

596
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: like in Groundhog Day with Bill Murray, except stuff wasn't

597
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: happening all the time. I think Bill Murray might have

598
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: been in the dream. I'm not sure I should have

599
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: woke up and wrote it down, but I vividly remember.

600
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've ever had this dream

601
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: or not. Is the guy he's got the top had on.

602
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: He pulls Phil out of the ground you know, he's

603
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: got the you know, a little fat road, and he

604
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: doesn't look too scared, too worried about it. He's a man.

605
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: It's been a year ready. The only time they mess

606
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: with me is I don't know why. It's got to

607
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: be in February. But ground had no idea what's going on.

608
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: And he pulled the groundhog out, and all of a sudden,

609
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: it's like and I saw it in person, but then

610
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: I saw somehow the replay on TV, and all of

611
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: a sudden, the guy's holding Phil up over his head

612
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: so you can see that he didn't see. He whispers,

613
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: I didn't see my shadow. And as he's holding him up,

614
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: the same guy who tried to kill Trump shoots the groundhog,

615
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: and the groundhog literally takes the round center mass. And

616
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: this guy is standing there and they're like chunks of

617
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: groundhog and blood.

618
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: I should laugh.

619
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Groundhog and blood all over his face, all over his

620
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: top hat, it's all over the people in the crowd.

621
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: People are ducking for cover. Police officers are running and

622
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: rushing to tey. And it was actually in of all things,

623
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: in Punk Satanni, Pennsylvania. It was from the third flour

624
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: of the school Book Depository, which is not in Pennsylvania.

625
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: It's in Texas. But it was a guy who tried

626
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: to kill Trump, who shot the groundhog and just eviscerated

627
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: this guy. I mean he was standing there holding them,

628
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: not to get too graphic, standing there holding the groundhog,

629
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: holding the groundhog head, and the rest of the body

630
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: was completely gone. And he stood there for what looked

631
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: like a good four or five seconds before he realized

632
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: it was a shock of the whole thing crazy?

633
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: Right?

634
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: What the hell was I eating before? Was I thinking?

635
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: Before bed?

636
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm watching Punk Satani Phil get murdered on live television.

637
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: I was there, and I think, as I now that

638
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: I think about it again, I think I would had

639
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: like somehow the power to stop it, kind of like this,

640
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: And because I read a Stephen King book not long

641
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: ago about eleven what eleven twenty two sixty three about

642
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: the assassination John Kennedy go back in time and can

643
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: stop that? And it was really interesting book. I thought

644
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: it was kind of funny, the treatment of it. But

645
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: I think all those things came together. I don't know

646
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: why it was assassination. Why would I dream that Punk

647
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: Satani Phil would be assassinated? Maybe it's indicative of the

648
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: crazy times in which we live.

649
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

650
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: But it was kind of weird. But at the same

651
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: time it's a little bit a little bit funny. Well,

652
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: wait to get to do now for the next Well,

653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: we know it's a different groundhog every year. Probably, I

654
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: don't know what the shelf life grab it Rodan is

655
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: in that regard, it's probably a different it's a stunt guy.

656
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: They just keep rolling out of new because yeah, we're

657
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: all racist. All those groundhogs look alike to us. I

658
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: I know it could be a it's a different guy

659
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: every year, pick a different fill out of the hole.

660
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: But this guy, man, if he had nine lives, you

661
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: just used all of them. Clark, it's a Scott Flune

662
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: show on seven hundred WLW. If you have not seen

663
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: the images yet from the what was it the sixty

664
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: eighth Annual Grammy Awards last night, I don't watch these things.

665
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: I don't, but it's.

666
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: The same, and it is literally you could go back

667
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: to when you were younger, when you would pay attention

668
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: to the artists and who all they were and large

669
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: the same things about you know, a number of things

670
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: are going to happen. There's going to be the hot

671
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: couple of the day. There's going to be a big

672
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: surprise winner. There's going to be somebody who says something

673
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: controversial or in protest, and they did that about Ice.

674
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: You have someone who kind of like, oh wow, that's them,

675
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: and that would have been the lighter jelly Roll if

676
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: you haven't seen him, he lost a ton of weight.

677
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: And of course the big thing was the fashion, And

678
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: the one that stole the show with fashion was Chapelome

679
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: who had a dress on and if you see the images,

680
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: you how do you describe it? So she's got a

681
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: low cut it's not even a low cut dress. The

682
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: dress starts actually below where her breasts are and her

683
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: the dress is being held up by nipple clamps, so

684
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: the clamps go to her nipples which are covered up,

685
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: and then the dress itself starts well below where the

686
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: bottom where the underboob is, and those things are out

687
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: there and they're getting all the air they can take.

688
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way. But man, that looked You're

689
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: sitting there for how many hours.

690
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: With with with battery jumpstart cables on your nipples holding

691
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: your dress up? And what are we doing here? If

692
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: you thought that Joe Burrow backlist suit was weird, that's

693
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: really weird, right. I mean, I'm not offended by it.

694
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're not offended unless I don't know, uh,

695
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: but I look at it. It just I just don't understand fashion.

696
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Am I supposed to get this?

697
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Are you supposed to get to? You sit there going

698
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: wow that you know the back list suit coat, the nipple, clemps,

699
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: the jumpstart cables on the what are we doing here?

700
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: Like you're making a statement. Yeah, I get people are

701
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: talking about you too, but it's not like you go wow,

702
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: I can't wait to wear that one too. Yeah, I'm

703
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: going to a wedding next weekend. I think I'm gonna try.

704
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring that one out for you from the gallery. Like,

705
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just don't know what to make it.

706
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Kendrick Klamar won five awards, surpassing jay Z to become

707
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: the most awarded rapper in Grammy history. And I believe

708
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: that I love jay Z. Kendrick Klamar has lapped even

709
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: jay Z and Bad Bunny got the Album of the Year,

710
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: So that's going to add more fuel to the super

711
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: Bowl performance. I'm sure for people who despise him for

712
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: his political beliefs as it were, But you know the

713
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 2: idea of just, you know, simply taking a celebrities wait

714
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: and go, yeah, I gotta believe the same thing. Well,

715
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are doing that. Actually, no,

716
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: not sure why we listen to celebrities for their opinion.

717
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I will say that speaking of which tomorrow

718
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: in the show. I think eleven o seven. I'm sure

719
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: you heard the song the new song by Dick Lache

720
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: is the Bengals song want he released a song. I'll

721
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: play this a little bit later where he's calling for

722
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: the Brown family to sell the team, presumably to him.

723
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's gonna be on the show

724
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: with me tomorrow at eleven o seven to explain that.

725
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: I'll catch up with him in a little bit. All right,

726
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: So coming up in minutes here on seven hundred, of

727
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: course news update. We've got weather moving in one to

728
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: three I think is what they're saying. Could be more, possibly,

729
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: who knows. And of course the deep freeze continue, so

730
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: that on the way traffic. And when I returned, Seth

731
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: Walsh is here speaking of the snow coming in. He

732
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: wants a I don't know, an edict that is going

733
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: to force you, if you live in Cincinnati, shovel your

734
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: damn sidewalk. I don't know what the punishment would be

735
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: for failure to comply, what that would look like, and

736
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 2: who this actually applies to. We'll get to that next

737
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: right afternoon Scott's Loan Monday morning, back at it on

738
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: the Home of the Reds with Gino back in a

739
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: red uniform. Is this the lift we need to put

740
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: us over the top to beat the Dodgers. We'll find out.

741
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: Scott's Loan seven hundred WW sincenat it's a Scott's Loan

742
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: show on seven hundred WW. Just shooting a little straight

743
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: with you this morth soap. We have all the snow

744
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 2: in the ground. We got like twelve bunch of snow,

745
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: not much of it if all has melted yet tonight.

746
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: Since last tomorrow, we're going to get to one to

747
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: two to three, maybe more, depending where you are, depends.

748
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: We shall see temperatures remain cold, so more snow on

749
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: top of the snow. Snow's not going anywhere, and city

750
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: cruise does a great job clearing snow on the streets.

751
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: There's still snow on the sidewalks that kids need to

752
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: walk or wait for buses. And so a new ordnance

753
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: would force property on us to clear the snow. So

754
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: what we're saying is that your neighbor, your neighbor, Betty

755
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: Lorrain or Margaret, whatever name is, she's got to go

756
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: eighty years old. The city's going to force her out

757
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: there at gunpoint to go shovel over twelve inches of snow.

758
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely heartless, heartless, it's unreal. Council Member Seth Walsh is

759
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: proposing this, Seth, are you going to tell me that

760
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: you're going to force somebody's gramma to go out and

761
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 2: shovel sidewalks in this weather?

762
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: No?

763
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 7: No, no, Scott, I appreciate you leaving off with the

764
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 7: drama there. Let's back it up to what's actually going

765
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 7: on here. So the city actually already has on its

766
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 7: books ordinances around shoveling the sidewalks, and one of the

767
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 7: problems that we've discovered last year with the snow emergency

768
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 7: is that we don't actually have any enforceable mechanisms to

769
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 7: this right. And so whether you're dealing with your sidewalks

770
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 7: by your house, whether you're in a business district, whether

771
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 7: you're downtown, if you run into sidewalks that are covered

772
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 7: in snow a week after the snowstorm, there's no way

773
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 7: fee to report it, nobody whose job it is to

774
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 7: maintain it and check in on it, and there's nobody

775
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 7: who's there to make sure that we're actually doing this job.

776
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 7: So what this motion asks is what does the administration need,

777
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 7: much like we asked last year around the snowpop what

778
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 7: does it need to be able to take the next

779
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 7: step and actually make sure we're enforcing this appropriately and

780
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 7: helping keep the city going. This isn't about going after

781
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 7: you know, residential neighbors. This is about making sure that

782
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 7: we all as a community are coming together and actually

783
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 7: being able to take care of our sidewalks too.

784
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so this this would apply then primarily to the

785
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: residential I'm sorry, the business district areas or places of business.

786
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's all it's all Cincinnati, but I justicipate

787
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 7: it's going to be primarily the business district areas.

788
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: You know, we've seen a lot of complaints coming in.

789
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 7: Downtown has had a number of complaints about you can

790
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 7: tell who the properties owners are, who've cleared the sidewalks

791
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 7: so you can.

792
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 6: Tell who have it.

793
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 7: We've also seen, you know, a lot of complaints around

794
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 7: the city of Cincinnati, like owning property that we haven't

795
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 7: cleared and then questionable property where you're like, is it

796
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 7: the city, is it somebody else? And who needs to

797
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 7: be responsible for it? One for example, of the bridge

798
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 7: going from Clifton to Northside. What we need to be

799
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 7: able to do is have a system in place to

800
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 7: be able to get piece concerns and then make sure

801
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 7: that we get them cleared. Whether that's there's some city mechanism,

802
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 7: whether that's to hire in private contractors, whatever it is,

803
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 7: that's a pretty big important Yeah.

804
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had our buddy on from ODOT last week

805
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: and he said that, you know, sometimes you see a

806
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: road plowed and then it'll not be plowed and then

807
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: it'll be plowed again. Is like that has to do

808
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: with jurisdiction, right, Like od Doubts in chart generally have highways,

809
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: but then you have the county, then you have local

810
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: municipalities cities like Cincinnati, villages, et cetera. And sometimes between

811
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: all those enterprises, we're not quite sure who is responsible

812
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: for that stretch. And normally, if it's an insure or

813
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: typically we get injured to a snow, it is not

814
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: a big deal. But when you're talking feet, different story.

815
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, And what we currently do not have is

816
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 6: a mechanism scout.

817
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 7: If you want to call and tell us that there's

818
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 7: a sidewalk they need to get shoveled after a week,

819
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 7: there's no mechanisms for that. And that's you know, I'll

820
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 7: stop sort of thing of the problem because I don't

821
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 7: think it's a problem on the scale of snow powt

822
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 7: issue was last year, but it is the next step

823
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 7: in this how do we appropriately handle snow as we're

824
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 7: looking at you know, I'm seeing three to five inches tomorrow,

825
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 7: that's a big deal. And you know, if you're if

826
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 7: you're trying to walk to a business, if you're trying

827
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 7: to walk to your car, if you're trying to get

828
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 7: to your you know, take your dog for a walk,

829
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 7: that's that is a big deal to be kind.

830
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 6: Of going through these various grades and it becomes pretty

831
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 6: unsafe for people.

832
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 7: And so if we can't even get the reporting on it,

833
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 7: how do we how do we take that next step

834
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 7: actually solve this problem?

835
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so where do you extend this that stuffs?

836
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned real estate owners is the target,

837
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: but are we talking about absentee landlords just commercial property only?

838
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: What about like something like an apartment complex. Can you

839
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: define who isn't who's doing their job?

840
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 7: I mean, I think you can define it as pretty

841
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 7: much a sidewalk that and this wouldn't yes anywhere that

842
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: has a sidewalk that is not being shoveled, you know,

843
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 7: several days to the week after the snowfall event. Whether

844
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 7: that is a private property owner, whether that's the City

845
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 7: of Cincinnati, whether that's Oda, we need to be having

846
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 7: these standards to make sure gets taken care of. I

847
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 7: think there's a lot of people that are rightfully frustrated

848
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 7: that city society hasn't shoveled our own sidewalks, and right

849
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 7: now we haven't even we don't even allow you to

850
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 7: be able to tell us that that's the problems. So

851
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 7: let's get that salved. Like, let's hold everybody to the

852
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 7: same standard, because again, it's a safety issue, you know,

853
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 7: it's it's about people trying to have people walk more,

854
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 7: have more pedestrian safety. You got to have the sidewalks.

855
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 7: You see people walking in the streets because they can't

856
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 7: access the sidewalks. That becomes dangerous for everybody, from the

857
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 7: people who are walking to the motorists. It's just not

858
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 7: a safe environment.

859
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I mentioned kind of tongue in cheeks sath Wall

860
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: jokingly about senior sitting You know, eighty year old Betty,

861
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: you're next door neighbor. She's not going out and shovel

862
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: But if you can't physically shovel, and how do you

863
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: differentiate when that in a proper dinner. Who's neglecting their responsibility?

864
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: How do you verify this?

865
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: Well, that's part of what we're asking in the emotion

866
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 7: here is what does the city administration need to be

867
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 7: able to run an effective program? And much like if

868
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 7: your sidewalk gets destroyed by tree roots and is lifting up,

869
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 7: you know, a couple of inches and you have to

870
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 7: have it taken out, there are systems in place where

871
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 7: you can get a replaced yourself, where the city brings

872
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 7: in contractors to be to take care of and then

873
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 7: there are ways to get creative about it to solve

874
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 7: it where you're not putting the burden on your eighty

875
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 7: five year old neighbor, but we are solving the problem

876
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 7: which off the sidewalks and make these passable straight you know,

877
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 7: say sidewalks.

878
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in the case of the eight year old neighbor,

879
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: so who paid? Does a taxpayer pay for that? Or

880
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: do you have to build? Do you build?

881
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 4: The property owner?

882
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 7: Well, I think that's something that the administration needs to

883
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 7: come back to tell us, you know, what the costs

884
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 7: would be on that. Uh, you know if if it's

885
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 7: in the obscene costs, I'm sure there's a way we

886
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 7: can work that out. And at the same time you

887
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 7: have contractors that are out there being able to do

888
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 7: this because we have to take care of the city's property.

889
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 7: At the same time, you know we can figure that

890
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 7: out as well. Right now, we're at the information gathering stage.

891
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 7: Last year we were so worried about the roads high

892
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 7: gaining cloud. This year we have had such a great

893
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 7: success as the roads getting cloud the system worked. Now

894
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 7: you have the next problem, which you want people to

895
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 7: be able to walk in the sidewalks start being there.

896
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 6: How do we answer it? How do we address that? Right?

897
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: Right?

898
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: And I'll pivot for just a second off this hobby.

899
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: You mentioned the success that the crews had. I've saw

900
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: nothing but glowering reviews for the snow removal, but also

901
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: that plow tracking app as well. It was down for

902
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: a while. Worn't quite sure with the mechanics. There's always

903
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: growing pains. I think we talked about this before seth Walsh.

904
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: But you know, from what I could tell and looking

905
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: at it during the snow event and probably ones happening tomorrow,

906
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: everything looks really good. I mean, you guys really turned

907
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: the corner on the snow removal thing largely because of

908
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: your efforts.

909
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this is something that I think a

910
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 7: lot of people deserve credit and kudos for. You know,

911
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 7: last year we failed as leaders in terms of making

912
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 7: sure that we were set up for the team to

913
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 7: be able to go out and succeed at it.

914
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: We had six hundred streets, we just didn't know that

915
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: we didn't plow.

916
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 7: That's not acceptable and we said that, and we said

917
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 7: the last year working to make sure that we have

918
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 7: the six hundred streets identified, that we had the systems

919
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 7: in place to succeed that we knew days in advance

920
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 7: we could prepare for and take care of it so

921
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 7: that when we sent our workers out there, we worked

922
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 7: twelve hour shifts. You know, they are doing the Lord's

923
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 7: work in this and they needed to make sure they're supported,

924
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 7: and we made sure they're actually supported this time. You

925
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 7: see how remarkable the team is once they actually have

926
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: the appropriate support from the snow plod tracker working to.

927
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 6: Be able to see what streets were being taken care of,

928
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 6: to see that we had it.

929
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 7: Two days in advance, we were salting and preparing for

930
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 7: the storms and then you know, literally getting these streets

931
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 7: covered and taking care of Within like thirty six hours,

932
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 7: we had ninety five percent of the streets passable.

933
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: I mean, it was really incredible. But it took us

934
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 6: being honest with.

935
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 7: Ourselves, which I think is one of the hardest things

936
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 7: in government to submit that, hey, we came up short.

937
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: We have to do better, right, right, and often there

938
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: are enough people taking the hit for that, going, hey,

939
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: it's on my watch, it's going to happen. He's council

940
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Member Seth Walsh proposing a new ordin Cincinnati that's going

941
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: to enforce with a little bit more teeth that you

942
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: have to remove the snow from your sidewalks. That doesn't

943
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: apply to a driveway though, right if you want to

944
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: not shovel your own driveway, it's up to you, although

945
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: I guess the sidewalk usually does cross a driveway. And

946
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, I'm backing up on this thing too, is

947
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: how long before how long do you give someone to

948
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: shovel the snow? Is it within twenty four hours forty

949
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: eight a week? How long to shovel the snow that fill?

950
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

951
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 7: So on the first point, no, this doesn't impact driveways

952
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 7: you know, the driveways your private property.

953
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 6: The sidewalks are of the public property.

954
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 8: Here.

955
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 7: The second part of this is, in my opinion, you know,

956
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 7: if we're trying to get everyone's streets cleared within forty

957
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 7: eight hours, after that forty eight hour mark, is that

958
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 7: we should expect the sidewalks are getting appropriately cleared as well.

959
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 7: You know, we had some issues last last week where

960
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 7: people cleared their sidewalks and then the snowplow came through

961
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 7: and a bunch of snowgup dumped back on the sidewalk.

962
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 7: That doesn't very feel very fair. That feels a little

963
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 7: punitive for those who are trying to do the right thing.

964
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 7: It's a situation where once a snow emergency has stopped,

965
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 7: we've gotten the streets taken care of. Now we have

966
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 7: to make sure the sidewalks become passable.

967
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 6: You know, it's a priority order to this.

968
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 7: So we're not saying, hey, the snowstorm is coming down

969
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 7: right now, be out there and make sure there's not

970
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 7: a ounce of snow out there. We're saying, you know,

971
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 7: we're all team. You know, especially now you look we're

972
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 7: a week out on the storm. We need to make

973
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 7: sure the sidewalks are passable.

974
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Seth Walsh on that, And I've brought up the

975
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: older neighbors at not be able to even plow their

976
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 2: own driveway. They may pay for the drive to be plowed,

977
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: to be a little extra, a little bit more money

978
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: on them to get the sidewalks done as part of that.

979
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Businesses may be a little bit different in that regard

980
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: to but you know, all it would take is someone

981
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: to go, hey, they're they're going after this. You know

982
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: this elderly widow or widow were they don't have the money,

983
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: they're fixed income, they can't go out there and shovel

984
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: their own thing. And now you're going to crack down.

985
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: And that feels like it's like an IT team thing

986
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: waiting to happen. But the same thing is, okay, my

987
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: next door neighbor. Let's say, you know, it's an individual

988
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: who works two or three jobs, doesn't have time to

989
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: shovel their own driveway, let alone the snowplow or hiring

990
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: someone to do that because they're trying to keep their

991
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: head above water. In that regard, would the enforcement be

992
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: punitive as you mentioned, because you look at them go, oh, okay,

993
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: it's an older person. They can't afford it. They cannot

994
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: do themselves. But you've got a younger next door neighbor,

995
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: shouldn't they be out there doing it? Well, if you're

996
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: working all the time, it's awfully tough to do that.

997
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: How do you respond.

998
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 7: We have a number of ordinances that are on the

999
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 7: books currently that you may like, are targeting are more

1000
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 7: vulnerable citizens, and the way that we handle it as

1001
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 7: a city is that we provide funds and resources to

1002
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 7: make sure that they're being taken care of as well.

1003
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 7: None of these are designed in a way in which

1004
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 7: we are trying to punish, you know, our elderly citizens

1005
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 7: or those who are working multiple jobs. We're just trying

1006
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 7: to make sure the sidewalks to become passable. And again,

1007
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 7: you know this isn't an ordnance. There are already ordinances

1008
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 7: on the books that you know have this enforcement mechanism.

1009
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 7: There's no way to report it right now. And I

1010
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 7: think where the majority of these issues are happening. Frankly,

1011
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 7: our city is society properties, and I think we have

1012
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 7: to do better as a city. That's something in a

1013
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 7: mantra keep saying out there. But if we don't even

1014
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 7: allow your op change to tell us that these are problems.

1015
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 7: We can't solve the problems.

1016
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like set there should be And

1017
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: again this is just the very primitive form of stage

1018
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: is it's nothing even close to becoming legislation at this point.

1019
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, how do we get the and it's

1020
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: a safety is how do we get the snow off

1021
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: the sidewalks because the reality is you've got kids trying

1022
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: to go to school or walk to the bus stop,

1023
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: or people waiting for metro, whatever it might be, and

1024
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: now they've got to stand in the road and that's

1025
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: just horribly unsafe.

1026
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 4: That's the whole point of this.

1027
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

1028
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 7: You know, I've seen way too many people in the

1029
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 7: last weeks who put them pass through the sidewalks that

1030
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 7: they're just walking down the middle of the street. And

1031
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 7: it's arguably safer for them because they because of the

1032
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 7: slippage and the ice that has accumulated, but it's not

1033
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 7: safer because you have these vehicles that are coming along.

1034
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 6: It's not safer for them, it's not safer for the vehicles.

1035
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 6: And so again, as a community, we have to step

1036
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 6: up and do better. And so how do we do that?

1037
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 7: Again, we're not trying to be piuted up here. We're

1038
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 7: just trying to figure out ways and we can solve problems.

1039
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 6: That have arisen. And frankly, of all the problems that.

1040
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 7: We had last year, for this to be the next

1041
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 7: issue to tackle, I think it's a good side where

1042
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 7: the city's setting.

1043
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the roads tackled. Now it's the sidewalks

1044
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: which is challenging in different ways. I suppose, sess and

1045
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: we'll see what comes of this whole thing. I would

1046
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: also think too that this is such an unusually heavy

1047
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: snowfall winter for us. We normally don't get this much

1048
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: so in a short period of time, you know, and

1049
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: maybe a storm where we get four inches or something

1050
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: like that, and we treat it like it's a big deal.

1051
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: You know, a foot of snow and plus what we're

1052
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: getting tomorrow on sidewalks that's impassable.

1053
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 4: You know, an inch or two you probably can walk

1054
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: over that.

1055
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: And so is this kind of preparing for the quote

1056
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: unquote hundred year flood as opposed to what we normally say.

1057
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 7: You know, last year, I got a lot of criticism

1058
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 7: when I was when I was saying that we needed

1059
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 7: to do better on the snowplows because everyone said it

1060
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 7: was a once in a twenty year storm, and barely

1061
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 7: twelve months later that once in a twenty year storm

1062
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 7: hit again. Right, You know, the reality is we do

1063
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 7: live in a city where snowfall events happen, and we

1064
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 7: don't know when the next big snowstorm is. We didn't

1065
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 7: think two weeks together, we're going to have two big

1066
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 7: storms within a two week period, and yet that's what

1067
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 7: we're staring.

1068
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 6: Down the gun on.

1069
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 7: So, yes, this is an important issue to make sure

1070
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 7: that we continue to just improve on. And I hope

1071
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 7: that we don't have to experience it for the next

1072
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 7: hundred years. But if I've learned anything about my predictions,

1073
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 7: if you will, we'll try having again in the next

1074
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 7: three weeks. And so let's just be ready and let's

1075
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 7: start having these conversations and figure.

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Speaker 6: Out again as a community, how do we do better

1077
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 6: and how do.

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00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 7: We work with each other make sure we're supporting the

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Speaker 7: administration for what they need and the resources they need

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Speaker 7: to be successful.

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news is much like diarrhea, it doesn't

1082
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: hang on too much longer.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: When I got a few weeks of this nonsense, Seth

1085
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: Walsh and then we'll be we'll be headed to spring

1086
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Speaker 2: I think with Red's baseball au Anyu Suarez. Now we're

1087
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: in a red uniform, so we got hope down at

1088
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark for our red legs. But of course

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Speaker 2: with warmer temperature and all these cold and freezing and

1090
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: the snows, the the you know, the warming and freezing cycle,

1091
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Speaker 2: we got to worry about potholes.

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Speaker 4: Now, are we here?

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00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: I think this is going to focus from clearing sidewalks

1094
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: to pothole damage in a few short weeks, and are

1095
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: we prepared to deal with the probably immeasurable amount of

1096
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: potholes Last year it was a high pothole season. This

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00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: year I would suspect the same. Are we better in

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00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six than we were in twenty twenty five

1099
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: on us?

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Speaker 7: You know, potholes didn't get as much attention last year

1101
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 7: in the media as the snowstorm did, but it did

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Speaker 7: get a lot of attention on the inside of city hall.

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00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 7: Council Member Nolan obviously did a you know, quick blitz.

1104
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Speaker 6: To try to come up some solutions for the pothole how.

1105
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 7: We can do better at poddles, and then until I

1106
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 7: believe today is actually going to be approving.

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Speaker 6: Funding to buy new equipment from pothole.

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Speaker 7: Feelings, So hopefully you're going to see it improvement or

1109
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 7: remarkable improvement. Again, it's under the same new director who's

1110
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 7: solved our soap op situation, Mark Briley, So I feel optimistic,

1111
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 7: but let's have that conversation.

1112
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Speaker 6: Of four weeks when we get to see it in action, right.

1113
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: Right, and hopefully we are better than we have been

1114
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: in the past when it comes to poddles. Right now,

1115
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: it's snow on sidewalks. What's the timeline for this proposal?

1116
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 7: So we we're filing it today, which means we will

1117
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Speaker 7: officially vote on it next week and hopefully we'll see.

1118
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 6: Resolves quickly from there. Yeah, all right, we think this

1119
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 6: is a priority for the city.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what is you're trying to do because

1121
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: you can't have people, especially kids, walking in the street

1122
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: because the sidewalks aren't clear for sure. So anyway, Hey, Seth,

1123
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Speaker 2: appreciate you jup and I always love having you on

1124
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: the program. Thanks again, buddy, have a good day.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Scott.

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Speaker 2: All right, anytime there you go, Seth Walsh on the

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Speaker 2: Scott Sloan Show. There may be some questions. How are

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Speaker 2: you enforced this, namely? But I get the concept because

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00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: you know, when sicy and cold out, people walk in

1130
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: this because at least the road is cleared, and in

1131
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: the past you couldn't walk anywhere because the roads weren't cleared.

1132
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Speaker 2: So I guess we're making progress. Julie hattersh hears. Next,

1133
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Speaker 2: it's Mental Health Monday on the Scott Sloan Show on

1134
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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Why do people hang onto relationships much

1135
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: longer than the life of the relationship be held onto,

1136
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: namely unfulfilling relationships? Why do we continue to do that

1137
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: when it's not getting us anywhere and making us worse.

1138
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming up after news on seven

1139
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

1140
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 8: Everyone needs help every now and then, and she's here

1141
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 8: to help us get our heads right.

1142
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: This is Mental Health Monday with mental health expert Julie Hattershot.

1143
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: I need help all the time. I'm not about you.

1144
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 4: It's sloanyersefd WW, specially at mondays right.

1145
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: You need more help than ever before. Why do people

1146
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: stay in unfulfilling relationships over and over? Maybe it's a friend,

1147
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: maybe it's you, Maybe it's a coworker relative, and it's

1148
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: like NonStop complaining about this horrible relationship. Then get out

1149
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: of it. Seems like it's easier said than done on that, Julie,

1150
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: how to share our license mental health therapists practicing out

1151
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: of Clifton at beconnected dot care. Julie, how are you?

1152
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: Uh?

1153
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 4: Oh, we've got bad cell connection here? What's up?

1154
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 6: Hello?

1155
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 8: Hello?

1156
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: Check one too?

1157
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 6: Hey?

1158
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: Is your phone is frozen? I think I think the

1159
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: phone pipes are frozen.

1160
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got you, Okay, sorry about that.

1161
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 9: Had my earbuds in and apparently they did not work.

1162
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 4: Nope, nothing's working today. It's too damn cold.

1163
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 6: Uh.

1164
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: But you'll stay in that unfulfilling relationship though, that for sure.

1165
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: Will beat the cold well, and I'll beat the heat.

1166
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: It seems counter to to human nature. Is like, you know,

1167
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: people generally don't stay in relations you're not happy with.

1168
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: But you probably hear people going, oh, you know, it's

1169
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: not that bad and I've invested so much time and

1170
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: what else am I supposed to do? And maybe it'll

1171
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: get better And it never does, it gets worse, doesn't it.

1172
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 9: Well it can, that's for sure. And it's really interesting

1173
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 9: because our like our primary romantic love relationship is the

1174
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 9: one thing in our society that we really give people

1175
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 9: a hard time about leaving. You know, you think about it.

1176
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 9: You change jobs sometimes, you change in higher career fields.

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00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: You go from being one thing to another.

1178
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 9: Thing completely, You move houses, you move states, friendships come

1179
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 9: and go. But this is the one that's supposed to stick.

1180
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 9: This is the one that you're supposed to make in

1181
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 9: maybe your twenties or your thirties, and it's supposed to

1182
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 9: last you for the rest of your life, which can

1183
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 9: be a very long time these days.

1184
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and so and so.

1185
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 9: People do tend to stay in unsatisfying relationships for some

1186
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 9: reasons that I guess sound good on paper, but when

1187
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 9: you really kind of take them apart, they don't make

1188
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 9: a whole lot of sense.

1189
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: All right, let's jump into that.

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Speaker 2: What are the psychological reasons that you would stay in

1191
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: a relationship, whether it's intimate or personal friendship, whatever may be,

1192
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: where it's not fulfilling.

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00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 9: Well, you know, so one of them is people say, well,

1194
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 9: it's not.

1195
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: That bad or it's not bad enough to leave.

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Speaker 9: There's a really great book out there called Too Good

1197
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 9: to Leave, Too Bad to Stay That talks about this

1198
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 9: kind of stable ambiguity of it's not good, but it's

1199
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Speaker 9: not so bad that.

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Speaker 1: I am ready to leave it.

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00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 9: And so when my clients say things like that to me,

1202
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 9: one of the things that I will ask and is, okay, well,

1203
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 9: what would bad enough look like? And I think it

1204
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 9: can be really helpful for people to think about, Okay,

1205
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 9: if it's not bad enough to leave, now, what would

1206
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 9: that look like? What would have to happen or have

1207
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 9: to not be there in order for.

1208
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: It to be bad enough to leave?

1209
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 9: And I think another thing to keep in mind is

1210
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 9: that the presence of a positive is much better.

1211
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: Than the absence of a negative.

1212
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 9: So not bad is not the same as good, it's

1213
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 9: not terrible is not the same as I'm really happy

1214
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 9: in this relationship. And we ideally want to be optimizing

1215
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 9: for the presence of positive not just the absence of negatives. So,

1216
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 9: you know, taking a really hard look at what would

1217
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 9: bad enough be what would have to happen in order

1218
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 9: for this to be bad enough for you to leave?

1219
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 9: Or or conversely, what would have to happen in order

1220
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 9: for this to be good enough that you're happy you stayed,

1221
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 9: and figure out what.

1222
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Needs to change, So it's at a version of loss.

1223
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean that is, you know, losses aren't more painful

1224
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: than in some cases more painful than pleasure, right, so

1225
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: you try to avoid that at all costs. Yeah, I

1226
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: mean that makes sense. But you know you know, well,

1227
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: you know it can't be bad, and you said not

1228
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: bad enough. But what happens is if you look back

1229
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: on let's say, in your relationship for a while, go

1230
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: back a year, go back two or three years, is

1231
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: it worse now? That wasn't absolutely because it's not an extreme,

1232
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: it's gradually getting worse, and you just keep making excuses

1233
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: and that just allows probably that other person to take

1234
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 2: the more liberties that they didn't in the past because

1235
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: you're allowing it.

1236
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 9: Well, if it's not bad enough yet and you're not

1237
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 9: both of you doing things.

1238
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: To work to make it better, then it's not going

1239
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: to just get better.

1240
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 9: Things typically in relationships don't just get better. We do

1241
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 9: things to help them become better. And so you stay

1242
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 9: in this this middle ground of like not great but

1243
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 9: not bad for long enough, and now you've sunk a

1244
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 9: lot of years into it, which is another reason that

1245
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 9: people stay is because they feel like they've sunk so

1246
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 9: much effort and time, so much of their life, maybe

1247
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 9: so much money, so much of their emotional labor, so

1248
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 9: much of their adult life has been as part of

1249
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 9: this dynamic, even though it hasn't been good, and even

1250
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 9: though it isn't good, and even though you don't think

1251
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 9: it's going to get better. It's that sunk cost fallacy

1252
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 9: of I put so much into it, I can't leave now,

1253
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 9: versus look at all I've put into it and how

1254
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 9: little I've gotten out of it, it probably is time

1255
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 9: for me to leave. So that's a mindset shift that

1256
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 9: people can make when you've overly invested and you're not

1257
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 9: getting returned.

1258
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 4: Kind of keeps you stuck on. Well, was this for nothing?

1259
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: I've invested so much already and it's some cost fallicy,

1260
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: as you said, But that's nothing new. That's true in

1261
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: a lot of things business and a bunch of other

1262
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: factors as well.

1263
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 9: Sure, sure, yeah, And the question is what this all

1264
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 9: for nothing? And I think that goes back to this

1265
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 9: idea that our primary relationships are the ones that were

1266
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 9: not allowed to leave, Because I mean, if you think

1267
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 9: about it, and I don't know about you, but I

1268
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 9: switched career fields in the middle of my life in

1269
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 9: my thirties, I went from one to the other, and

1270
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 9: I got a lot of really good stuff out of

1271
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 9: my first career, And now I'm in my second career

1272
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 9: and I'm getting a lot of really good stuff out

1273
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 9: of that. Never once did I say, with all of

1274
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 9: that stuff I did when I was a volunteer manager

1275
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 9: and fundraiser, was all of that for nothing? No. I

1276
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 9: took a look at it and said, I did that.

1277
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: It was great. I don't want to do it anymore.

1278
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: I want to do this thing now.

1279
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 9: So when we start to think about it in terms

1280
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 9: of not was that all for nothing? But did I

1281
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 9: get everything out of that that I could have gotten?

1282
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Did I max that out? Is this now time to change?

1283
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 9: That mindset shift can make a big difference too in

1284
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 9: how we think about leaving a relationship.

1285
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, And that one factor's an a number

1286
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: of things. I look at Okay, well I invested too much,

1287
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: But at some point you look at what you invested,

1288
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: But what are you going to get in the future.

1289
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Speaker 2: I think you almost got to like say, okay, yesterday,

1290
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: that matters tomorrow, that matters happy or not?

1291
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: Is that the best way to test that?

1292
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 9: I think that's a really great way to test it. Yeah,

1293
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 9: because sometimes the relationships that serve us well in one

1294
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 9: phase of our life don't serve us well in another

1295
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 9: phase of our life. I work with a lot of

1296
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 9: couples who would say, when they're being very honest, that

1297
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 9: they're really good co parents and they're really good at

1298
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 9: raising kids and managing a life together.

1299
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: But once the kids leave.

1300
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 9: The house and they're on their own, they realize they're

1301
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 9: not great partners. They don't they're not really great mates

1302
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 9: for each other.

1303
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: But for that period of.

1304
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 9: Time in their life that they were building careers and

1305
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 9: building families.

1306
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: They worked really well together.

1307
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 9: So looking forward into the future, they they're.

1308
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: Asking themselves, is this who I.

1309
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 9: Want to spend the next thirty, the last thirty or forty.

1310
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: Years of my life with?

1311
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 9: And the answer sometimes is yes and sometimes is no.

1312
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 9: But to your point, when you look forward into the future,

1313
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 9: is what you've gotten going to give you enough of

1314
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 9: what you want going forward? Is this relationship going to

1315
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 9: provide that for you at this point in time in

1316
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 9: your life? And if the answer is no, then it

1317
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 9: might be time to look at.

1318
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: Nothing to change.

1319
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: Gotcha, She's Julie hatters. She here a licensed mental health expert.

1320
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: It is mental health money in the Scotslon show. Why

1321
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: do people stay in unfulfilling relationships? And maybe it's you,

1322
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's someone you know. We always know someone who's

1323
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: done that or is going through that, or is about

1324
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: to go through that. And so there's a number of

1325
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: psychological reasons why you stay in something that's no longer

1326
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: working for you, whether it's a romantic relationship, business interest, hell, friendship,

1327
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: something on those lines. First and foremostly mentioned things aren't

1328
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: bad enough. So in a version of the loss, you

1329
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: keep telling yourself, oh, it's not bad yet. In the

1330
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: sun costs fallacy, which actually goes hand in hand in

1331
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: that I've I've arrested so much already that why would

1332
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: I give that up? Because I have all of these

1333
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,959
Speaker 2: things together, which, by the way, you make a great

1334
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: case for having separate bank accounts and financial things when

1335
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: you get in a relationship, right, because that's a big excuse.

1336
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: What a pay if we split up. I got we

1337
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: got a house, we got all these investments, we got

1338
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: this Like, it's I don't have time for that kind

1339
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: of payperwork, separate bank accounts, that's what you're going with Julie.

1340
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Speaker 9: Separate bank councer are often a really good idea exactly.

1341
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 9: And then there's also this idea that we'll regret our

1342
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 9: decision later, and that's sort of you know better the

1343
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 9: devil you know than the devil you don't, concept of.

1344
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: I know what I've got here.

1345
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 9: I can manage it. It's not great, it's not meeting

1346
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 9: my needs or making me happy, but I can manage it.

1347
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 9: What's it going to be like on the other side,

1348
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 9: What's it going to be like to be single? What's

1349
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 9: it going to be like to only see my kids

1350
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 9: part of the time. What's it going to be like

1351
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 9: to be living in a different place. We're going to

1352
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 9: have to untangle family relationships, we may have to untangle friendships.

1353
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 9: What's it going to be like if I lose or

1354
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 9: miss out on some of that? And we tend to

1355
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 9: only focus on the potential negatives of those situations, not

1356
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 9: the potential positives.

1357
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: So we tend to focus on what, to your point earlier.

1358
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 9: What we're going to lose, not what we might gain,

1359
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 9: what delight might be around the corner, but what we're

1360
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 9: going to miss out on miss part of lose regret

1361
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 9: and we focus on the negative, and that helps keep

1362
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 9: us stuck someplace. It isn't really great for us, but

1363
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 9: isn't as bad as we're projecting that.

1364
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: Future to be interesting.

1365
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense to me that you're gonna, well,

1366
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: you know what, I careful, what you wish for, you

1367
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: might just get it. And now the grass is green,

1368
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: the grass isn't greener. What's what's a worse metaphor than

1369
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: the grass is greener? Because people often know those like, well,

1370
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, the grass is always greener. I don't know

1371
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: it might be, and the minute it doesn't work out,

1372
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: you have a regret. How do you deal with that?

1373
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: If you're a person who says, you know, I okay

1374
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 2: with the comfortable right now. It's not perfect, but my god,

1375
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: it's better than what's out there right now. It almost

1376
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: has to be.

1377
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 4: Are you just kidding yourself?

1378
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: Well you might be.

1379
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 9: I mean it's you know, it's never easy to find

1380
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 9: some people in your life, friends or partners that you

1381
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 9: want to spend a lot of time with, and being

1382
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 9: single is differently difficult than being in an unhappy relationship.

1383
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say it's easier or harder having done both,

1384
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 9: I would say it's differently difficult. But when you project

1385
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 9: the negative about the future and can't see the potential positive,

1386
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 9: and when you focus on it's okay now, but it's

1387
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 9: not great and nothing that I do is making a difference,

1388
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 9: then you really do have to do kind of a

1389
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 9: cost benefit analysis and say it's what I'm getting where

1390
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 9: I am now good enough to make it worth me

1391
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 9: not getting what I want and need that I'm missing

1392
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 9: out on, and to make it worth with me having

1393
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 9: to put up with what I have to put up

1394
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 9: with to stay here, and really doing an honest cost

1395
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 9: benefit analysis with yourself. And the answer might be yes.

1396
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 9: The answer might be yeah, this is good enough for now,

1397
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 9: I'll figure it out later. The answer might be Nope,

1398
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 9: I'm really not happy now, and I'd rather take my

1399
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 9: chances with something unknown than stay with this unhappy known

1400
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 9: quantity that I've got in my relationship.

1401
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: All right, Any other reasons that people would stand these relationships.

1402
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: Well, there are a lots.

1403
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 9: So there's societal pressure, as we've talked about, there's family pressure.

1404
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: I've worked with a couple of couples over.

1405
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 9: The years where nobody in their family, either of their

1406
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 9: families was ever divorced, like nobody was ever divorced, and

1407
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 9: they were looking at being the first people in their

1408
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 9: whole families cousins, siblings.

1409
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: Who were divorced, and that was a really big.

1410
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 9: Deal religious pressure. I mean, there are some faiths that

1411
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 9: still take a really hard look at divorce as being

1412
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 9: a bad thing. People often stay for the kids, and

1413
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 9: there are mixed reasons for that, or mixed success with that.

1414
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 9: I guess I would say sometimes that is the best

1415
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 9: thing to do for the children, if the divorce would

1416
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 9: be really difficult and the kids might be put in

1417
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 9: the middle. But sometimes kids actually do better when parents

1418
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 9: are happier and healthier and working better together than they

1419
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 9: were when they were married. Kids actually can do better

1420
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 9: in those situations. So there are many reasons why people

1421
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 9: would stay. I think we tend to think about staying

1422
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 9: for the kids, or staying because of faith, or staying

1423
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 9: for money, But we don't necessarily think about the head

1424
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 9: games we play with ourselves health to make staying makes sense.

1425
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: And so that's why I wanted to talk about this today.

1426
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the whole religious thing, I mean, that's

1427
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 2: up to you. If you hold that near and dear

1428
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: to your heart. Then you I'd be very careful when

1429
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: you're dating and getting married. Not so much so with

1430
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: a friendship, because there's nothing biblical about splitting that up

1431
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: if that person is driving you crazy, and so it

1432
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: lived its usefulness and you know, set it free, you

1433
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: let it go.

1434
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 4: Although I will say when it comes to the.

1435
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: Cognitive biases and all the things to worry about, explaining

1436
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: to your family and the kid one is interesting too

1437
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: because previous generations is thought, oh my god, you got

1438
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: to stay together for the children.

1439
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: The children.

1440
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: That was more about societal stigma than it was because

1441
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: kids can sense that you're miserable and that you're not

1442
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: getting along and maybe you're fighting or not talking to

1443
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: each other, and it's very cold in that household. I mean,

1444
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what damages kids more of that or

1445
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: that you know, it's my weekend with my kids and

1446
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: then next week in the jewey gunder your kids.

1447
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 4: Which one's worse.

1448
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, So what we know? All the research indicates so

1449
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 9: far that healthy marriages are what's best for children. There's

1450
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 9: no question that that's true. An unhappy marriage is really

1451
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 9: hard for children, particularly if it's overtly unhappy if it's

1452
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 9: cold and distant, that's difficult. But if it's overtly unhappy, yelling, arguing,

1453
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 9: name calling, door slamming. You know the things we think

1454
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 9: of when we think of a really rocky marriage that's

1455
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 9: really hard for kids, A pleasant, cooperative, healthy divorce is

1456
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 9: actually really not all that terrible for children, and an awful, contentious,

1457
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 9: name calling, terrible divorce is really bad for kids. So

1458
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 9: kids tend to respond in these situations how the parents are.

1459
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 9: If the parents are doing.

1460
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: Well, the children will generally do well.

1461
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 9: If the parents are not doing well, the children will

1462
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 9: generally have more problems. And that's whether they're married or

1463
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 9: they're divorced. So we used to think divorce was terrible

1464
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 9: for kids. Now we know bad marriages and bad divorces

1465
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 9: are terrible for kids. Would divorce, a cooperative, pleasant, companionable

1466
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 9: divorce is actually not that hard.

1467
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 4: For kids, yeach indicator.

1468
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: But typically it's about being punitive and vindictive and all

1469
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 2: these things. Not not always in those kind of relationships,

1470
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: but when marriages break up, it's and a kid get

1471
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: used as chattel, and it's a whole it's a whole thing.

1472
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: It's it can be very, very ugly. You know, back

1473
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: to the one thing you mentioned about, you know, buyer's remorse. Here,

1474
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: grass is always greener. What if I get what I

1475
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: if I leave this person? What happens if I regret

1476
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: it later? How often in your practice, Julie, the people

1477
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: come back and say, Wow, that was a mistake.

1478
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 4: I should have stayed with them.

1479
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 9: Not very often, But I'm going to tell you that

1480
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 9: partly that's because they've come to see me for therapy

1481
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 9: and they've come to understand that this relationship was not going.

1482
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: To change and become more of what they wanted and needed.

1483
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 9: I think in the general population sometimes that happens that

1484
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 9: people go through a divorce or a split up or

1485
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 9: a breakup and they regretted on the back end because

1486
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 9: they didn't put the work in on the front end

1487
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 9: to really.

1488
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: See if it could be what they wanted and needed.

1489
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 9: So in my practice, not that frequently. In other couples

1490
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 9: therapists practice, I would say also probably not that frequently,

1491
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 9: because they're coming to see if the relationship has legs,

1492
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 9: and they're learning through the work they're doing.

1493
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 6: That it doesn't.

1494
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 9: But I think when people don't try that and they

1495
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 9: make a decision to split that may not be based

1496
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 9: on the best possible reasons, or may be based on

1497
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 9: something that's more about them and less about the relationship,

1498
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 9: and then they take that into subsequent relationships. The grass

1499
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 9: wasn't necessarily greener because they brought the grass with them

1500
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 9: that in that case, sometimes there is regret on the

1501
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 9: back end. And I have worked with one couple who

1502
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 9: came to me after having been married, divorcing, and remarrying

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 9: the same people, and they came to me after that

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 9: they realized they've made a mistake. They remarried each other,

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01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 9: and they came to see me to help me figure

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Speaker 9: out how to make this iteration of their marriage better

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Speaker 9: than the first one.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Juliett is sure think everything you need

1510
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: to know about why you stay in unfulfilling relationships, and

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Speaker 2: then that gives you the information to maybe change things.

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Speaker 2: She is at Hey Julie by the way the web.

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Speaker 2: I want to give her a email address here, it's

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Speaker 2: Hey Julie j U L I E D B the

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Speaker 2: letter B connected dot care and that's where she practices.

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Speaker 2: Any questions or maybe topic your future show, I feel

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: fit to reach out and UH, hopefully you feel a

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Speaker 2: little bit better. Maybe there's a situation you can apply

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Speaker 2: this to Julie. All the best things Again, as always,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk next Monday.

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Speaker 9: Sounds great, you appreciate it.

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 4: Be well, take care with news.

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01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: In five minutes we've got weather moving in full details

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01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: seconds away on the Home of the Reds seven hundred

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Speaker 2: w W sincenat.

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Speaker 6: Want to be.

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Speaker 2: All right Monday morning, Scott's Long Show back on seven

1528
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. In addition to all the news that's going

1529
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: on here locally and in the rest of the world,

1530
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: one of the big things that's going on.

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 4: That really cemented, I mean it was.

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 2: It was a cornerstone of Trump getting real elected, and

1533
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: of course was what he was going to do about Epstein,

1534
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: the Epstein problem. Justice had probably just dropped the final

1535
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: transh of those files, more than three million pages, two

1536
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: thousand videos, one hundred and eighty thousand images, with the

1537
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: women all redacted from the photos. The men were not

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: unless it was necessary in order to protect the privacy

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: of the women those images. The good news is any

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: member of Congress can request to review the unredacted portions

1541
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: of the file, so there's some transparency there, and there

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: I would say highlights normally, but these are low lights.

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01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: Pete Schin is here, Peter with Epstein Justice dot com

1544
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: and his mission is to simply get justice for all

1545
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 2: these women who were victimized over the years by Epstein

1546
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: and his cronies.

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 4: Peter, welcome back.

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 6: How are you. I'm great, Scott, Thanks for having me.

1549
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it's really hard to read a lot

1550
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: of this stuff. Let me just run through the highlights

1551
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: and I'll fire some questions at you. Bring you up

1552
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: to speed if you're listening to the show this morning.

1553
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to know what's in there, and it's probably

1554
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: impossible at this point because it just dropped on Friday.

1555
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: To see three you know, to scan three million pages,

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: two thousand videos, and almost two hundred thousand images, it's

1557
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: going to take some time. But so far, what's come

1558
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: out is that Trump's Commerce secretary of Howard Lutnick, had

1559
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: planned a trip to Epstein's island in twenty twelve, that

1560
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old girl was forced to perform oral

1561
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 2: sex on Donald Trump and then he raped her while

1562
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: Juliane Maxwell was present and also present allegedly when the

1563
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: newborn was murdered. Another complaint alleges that calendar girl parties

1564
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: at Trump's mar Lago resort involved genital measurements for children,

1565
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: and expected the House contempt vote against the Clintons after

1566
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: they failed to respond to a subpoena. And you wonder

1567
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: why said, there's info in these files that show that

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01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton's staff had numerous communications with Elai Maxwell. He

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01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: went to his island, Epstein's Island sixteen times. Previous images

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01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 2: from the last dump showed him a shirtless and a

1571
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: hot tub with known victim of the known victim. Anyway,

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: Maxwell wrote to a Clinton staffer that she told a

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: tabloid quote, what a super stead you are, and how

1574
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: I have a crush on you, and how you're hung

1575
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: like a horse, and well you get the picture. Hope

1576
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: you don't mind that from Julian Maxwell. And then Bill Gates.

1577
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,799
Speaker 2: Bill Gates slept with Russian girls, got a sexually transmit

1578
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: the disease, and asked for antibiotics so he could secretly

1579
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: slip then to his then wife Melinda so she didn't

1580
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: get an STD And a lot of this stuff was

1581
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: also bankrolled allectly by the Russians and Putin. I think

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01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: those are all the highlights Pete and that's a lot.

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 8: Well, I laugh, not because any of this is funny,

1584
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 8: but because it's horrifying, and because it's impossible for the

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 8: average person, Scott to tell what's true and what's false,

1586
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 8: particularly when the Justice Department is telling me and you

1587
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 8: and every other American that there's nothing to see here

1588
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 8: in these three milien pages, to say nothing of the

1589
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 8: other three million that haven't been released. And as you say,

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01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 8: members of Congress are free to go and look at

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 8: those other three million pages whenever they'd like. But as

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 8: a practical matter, you know, it's impossible to go through,

1593
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 8: virtually impossible for an ordinary human being to go through

1594
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 8: three million page of documents, to say nothing of the

1595
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 8: three million that are redacted. It it's not transparency. What

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01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 8: it is, God is It's it's transparency through releasing the

1597
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 8: forest so that there's no way to see any of

1598
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 8: the trees, because there's so much garbage being poured out here.

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, what.

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Speaker 8: Can be believed out of any of it, Well, what

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01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 8: can be believed for sure is that Epstein just is

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01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 8: that Jeffrey Epstein moved in a circle of very powerful,

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 8: well connected and financially lucrative people. In fact, that the

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01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 8: top people in the world not only did he move

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 8: in those circles, but they all admired him, and and

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01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 8: that should make everybody sick. These folks that that we

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 8: think are are you know, uh, these captains of industry,

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01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 8: these political leaders, uh and what they what they were

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 8: was just a discussing child predators.

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01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 6: If these files are to be believed.

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing too, is that this is huge stump.

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: And again there's an old theory about this, is like, hey,

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: you want information, will just overwhelm you with evidence and

1614
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 2: there's no way you can sort through it.

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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 4: That's kind of an I legal tactic. But these are

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: what we don't know.

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: The fact is there could be fake or falsely submitted

1618
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: images or documents or videos. The hardest part here, if

1619
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,919
Speaker 2: not the impossible part, then Pete would be separated incredible

1620
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: evidence from disinformation to dumped this massive right.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 8: Yes, sir and Scott. The thing is that what's called

1622
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 8: for here is an investigation.

1623
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 3: And the irony of.

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 8: Releasing three million documents and then saying, well, there's nothing

1625
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 8: to investigate here, it creates an immediate sense of cognitive dissonance.

1626
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 8: Where you can't really believe what people are. It's one

1627
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 8: of these things where it's, hey, do you want to

1628
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 8: believe your own eyes or what I'm telling you from

1629
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 8: the reality that if you're telling me that you've got

1630
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 8: six million documents but nothing to investigate, how is anybody

1631
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,440
Speaker 8: to make sense of that? Seems there's plenty to investigate

1632
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 8: in six million pages where the files and the amount,

1633
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 8: there was plenty to investigate before you release a single page. Yeah,

1634
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 8: and yet what we're being told is that no investigation

1635
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 8: is necessary because we've unloaded an entire sewers worth of information,

1636
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 8: unverifiable as it is, onto you.

1637
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 6: And so that's enough and eat.

1638
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 5: Your gruel and like it right?

1639
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: Well, Pete, we also saw that there were some Trump

1640
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: allegations that were pretty mind blowing that have now been

1641
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: pulled from the dob DJ website and it says page

1642
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: not found. Doesn't that add just more fuel to the

1643
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: conspiracy fires as well? And then therefore the backlash would

1644
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: be more of a demand for the president to maybe

1645
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 2: unredact some of the stuff, or be more transparent about

1646
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: what the role was and being more forward about prosecuting people.

1647
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 8: Oh well, that would be an ideal situation, you know.

1648
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 8: And that is the thing I think that for many people,

1649
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 8: myself included, is among the the greatest disappointments thus far

1650
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 8: in this version of President Trump is that I think

1651
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 8: many of us expected him to take charge of this

1652
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 8: matter and clear it up. I mean, let's just take

1653
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 8: everything that the president has said at face value. That

1654
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 8: he distanced himself from Epstein long before he was ever

1655
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 8: even convicted of a crime. And let's just take that

1656
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 8: at face value. Okay, I believe you now do something

1657
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 8: because this guy that you determined to be more than

1658
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 8: twenty years ago continued to commit very serious criminal acts.

1659
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 8: And not only that, but it appears that he involved

1660
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 8: several other powerful people, and by several other, I mean

1661
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 8: many many powerful people in his web, including a president

1662
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 8: of from two administrations. As the files or to be believed.

1663
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's your price, any thing about that for the

1664
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: Trump you know, diehards and believers. The DOJ said that

1665
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: these aren't founded in false claims are submitted before the

1666
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty election, kind of an October surprise. But here's

1667
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: the problem with that theory is that, Okay, you just

1668
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: released all this information and then you went it's on

1669
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: the webs on the well, now we're going to take

1670
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: it off the web that you know, if there's nothing

1671
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: to worry about, nothing the scene, why pull it from

1672
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: from public.

1673
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 8: View, particularly since there are plenty of allegedly false accusations

1674
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 8: that you've left out there.

1675
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1676
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 8: So no, none, none of it makes sense other than

1677
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 8: as a tactic to distract from the fact that what's

1678
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 8: really required to get to the bottom of the rot

1679
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 8: that is infecting a republic is a no nonsense bipartisan

1680
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 8: and in fact, I would argue a nonpartisan congressional investigation

1681
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 8: in which for just five minutes, Congress drops the partisan

1682
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 8: boxing gloves and comes together to do their congress their

1683
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 8: constitutionally mandated function of holding the executive branch accountable. Scott,

1684
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 8: I used to be a liaison from the Secretary of

1685
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 8: the Air Force to set up appropriators. And here's why

1686
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 8: I know about the executive branch as a liaison from

1687
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 8: the executive branch, which is that the executive branch is

1688
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 8: designed to keep secrets.

1689
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 6: That's what it does.

1690
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 8: The executive branch keeps secrets in order to ensure our

1691
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 8: national defense and other executive functions that have to be

1692
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 8: held That means that as a practical matter, the executive

1693
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 8: branch isn't well equipped to disclose information.

1694
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 6: It is the job of Congress to force.

1695
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 8: The executive branch, to hold the executive branch accountable, and

1696
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 8: it is Congress's job to do That's what Leo at

1697
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 8: Epstein Justice want, simply for Congress to do their job. Now,

1698
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that the law that was passed on

1699
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 8: November nineteenth has had no effect. Obviously it's forcing the

1700
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 8: release of these files whole cloth, but it's not what's

1701
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 8: really required, Scott. What's really necessary is a nonpartisan investigation

1702
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 8: where we can get some legitimate answers instead of just

1703
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 8: being dumped this information that prosecutors should investigate.

1704
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: So you mentioned they have the job of investigating this,

1705
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 2: and they won't do it. They also have the main

1706
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: job the Congress has, as you know, is to pass

1707
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 2: a budget. We haven't had one of those in my lifetime,

1708
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,839
Speaker 2: I think, And right now we have a partial government shutdown.

1709
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: So how's this looking as as as you want and

1710
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: getting stuff done? I say it ain't looking pretty good, Bete.

1711
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 6: I agree with you.

1712
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 8: Good And that's part of the issue, isn't it that

1713
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 8: at this point in our nation's history, here on the

1714
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 8: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our nation's founding, and

1715
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 8: the system's not working the way it's intended to. There's

1716
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 8: a lot of reasons for that, but I'm not a

1717
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 8: political scientist. But what my goal and the goal of

1718
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 8: everyone at Epstein's Justice is to get the system working

1719
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 8: as intended for this sole purpose, to protect our children,

1720
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 8: to bring some justice to the children now women who

1721
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 8: were abused by Jeffrey Epstein and his powerful cronies, and

1722
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 8: to prevent our children from being picked up off the

1723
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 8: streets by billionaires satual desires and then being raped with

1724
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 8: impunity and without consequence, which is what happened in this case, right,

1725
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 8: And that's horrifying to think and consider, but.

1726
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 6: It's a fact.

1727
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: Peachin from Epstein Justice dot com about the three million pages,

1728
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: the videos, of the hundreds of thousands of images that

1729
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: were released on Friday, and there's some just jaw dropping

1730
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: allegations in here. One of those includes the Clinton's and

1731
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: Clinton said, hey, I never sent emails. We have no

1732
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: idea what's going on. But in this latest trange we

1733
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: found that literally dozens and dozens of emails were exchanged

1734
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: between his staffers and Elaine Maxwell from twenty two thousand

1735
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: and one to two thousand and four that Clinton flew

1736
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: on Epstein's plane at least at least at the minimum

1737
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: sixteen times, and she Maxwell herself was pretty flirtatious in

1738
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: the emails. As I mentioned that, in the fact, there

1739
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: doesn't that email pattern tell us about the nature of

1740
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: these relationships A.

1741
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 8: Dozen indeed, Scott, you know you're What it displays is

1742
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 8: a familiarity just with Epstein the person, But it displays

1743
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 8: a familiarity with a.

1744
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 6: Lifestyle, doesn't it.

1745
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 8: This person is in the words of Larry Summer's lush,

1746
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 8: he's lascivious. People knew all about Jeffrey Epstein, these wealthy people.

1747
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 8: You know, one thing you might just ask yourself, just

1748
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 8: asually is how could he consider how could he continue

1749
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 8: to be banked after he's a convicted sex offender or

1750
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 8: a registered set offender. Yes, of course these chargers are

1751
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 8: relatively minor, but nevertheless they're still felonies. How would he

1752
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 8: continued to be able to be banked by someone like

1753
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 8: JP Morgan for years after he was a convicted sex offender.

1754
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:50,440
Speaker 8: Everybody turned a blind eye to his capture, his exploitation,

1755
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 8: and his sexual assault of children. They turned a blind

1756
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 8: eye because they had similar proclivities. Okay, maybe they like

1757
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 8: to wait until they were nineteen or eighteen years in

1758
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 8: one day, but nevertheless, they understood that Epstein might cross

1759
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 8: that line, and they didn't care in part because perhaps

1760
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 8: we don't know they shared his very same criminal prosuvity.

1761
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 3: Sure, if only someone would look into.

1762
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: It, which is why we have this standoff. There's nothing

1763
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: to see here, nothing to see here. It's because when

1764
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 2: it's if it's solely one side or the other, you know,

1765
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: team B goes against team A and vice versa. But

1766
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: when A and B are all involved in the scandal,

1767
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: that's a little bit different, and it goes to show

1768
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: you where the real power is. One thing came out

1769
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: of this, and this has the potential for even bigger scandal.

1770
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: We call an America black mail. The Russians call a

1771
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: compromat with a K, and that is that the allegations

1772
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: involving Bill Gates getting an STD from Russian girls, well

1773
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Russian we're the Russian girls from him, allegedly supplied by

1774
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: Putin in Russia to Epstein's island with the ideas that now,

1775
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: now we have black mamotill on these people, how likely

1776
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: is that scenario.

1777
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 8: It's as likely as any other scott And in fact

1778
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 8: it's more likely because what's not very often discussed in

1779
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 8: America media, but is very often discussed in the British

1780
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,879
Speaker 8: media is the fact that Delaying Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell,

1781
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 8: a noted British publisher, was also well known to be

1782
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 8: a MASAD intelligence agent, an Israeli intelligence agents, and so

1783
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 8: there's questions about, hey, was Jeffrey Epstein connected to US, Russian,

1784
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 8: Israeli intelligence?

1785
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 5: All three the CIA, none of them.

1786
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 3: We don't really know.

1787
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 6: Now.

1788
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 8: Historically speaking, I'm a historian in part I have a

1789
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 8: master's degree in military history. And the fact of the

1790
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 8: matter is is that historically speaking, our own intelligence services

1791
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 8: have done such things as fed US citizens LSD and

1792
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 8: Canadian citizens LSD just to see if they could get

1793
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 8: a truth serum. That's one of the things that the

1794
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 8: True Commission revealed in nineteen seventy seven. Supposedly we stomped

1795
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 8: all of those illicted activities out, but what if we

1796
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 8: didn't got What if our intelligence agencies are responsible for

1797
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 8: running a honey pot blackmail slash compliment operation to control

1798
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 8: our own federal government. It's as likely as a foreign

1799
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 8: government doing it grankly, and we have no investigation. In fact,

1800
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 8: what we've been told is that there's nothing to investigate.

1801
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: Like a John Clancy, John Grisham, Stephen King novel for

1802
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: crying out loud. And you don't want to think about this,

1803
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 2: so real quick before I let you go peachin what

1804
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: happens next? You at Epstein Justice are putting tremendous pressure

1805
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: for the guilty to become convicted or at least go

1806
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: to trial, to again fight for justice for these young

1807
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: women who are victimized over the years. Well, you know

1808
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: that that's the optimistic side. What is the reality here, Pete?

1809
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean, is anything going to come with this?

1810
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

1811
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 6: I believe that.

1812
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 8: Three is gone, and I'll tell you why, Al Suddy.

1813
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 8: More of has come of this than I could ever

1814
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 8: have possibly imagined. When I reached out to Epstein Justices

1815
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 8: director Nick Bryant back in twenty nineteen and said, hey,

1816
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 8: you know, do you have a can we talk about

1817
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 8: the Franklin scandal, which was another situation in Omaha that

1818
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 8: ended very unhappily for everybody who tried to bring a

1819
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 8: child sex abuse network to justice.

1820
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 6: It didn't work out.

1821
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 8: Everybody walked away and the only people that got punished

1822
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 8: with the victims that happened in Omaha in the eighties

1823
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 8: and early nineties. And so Nick and I have been

1824
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 8: working on this together for years across across both Democrat

1825
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 8: and Republican administrations. It's a nonpartisan effort. And what happens

1826
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 8: next is we continue to work on it. We continue

1827
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 8: to point out that the American people are living in

1828
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 8: a republic that may well be controlled by intelligence agencies,

1829
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 8: foreign ornamenttic we don't even know. And we're going to

1830
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 8: keep working on this until we get not just justice,

1831
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 8: Scott for the victims, which is of course the most

1832
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 8: important thing, but it's impossible to get that justice without

1833
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 8: first getting the truth. And we're going to keep fighting

1834
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 8: for it until the truth ultimately is revealed.

1835
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Hope.

1836
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: So all the best, Peach chinover at Epstein Justice dot

1837
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: com for all the latest click over there, Pete. I'll

1838
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: have you back again soon as a situation Warrens thanks again, brother, appreciate.

1839
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 6: You, appreciate you, Scott, thanks for keeping the word out there.

1840
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, take care. Let me get a news update

1841
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: in and this is just horrific news on this Monday morning.

1842
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: We'll switch it up because I need a little something

1843
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: lighter right now.

1844
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 4: How about you.

1845
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: The Reds yesterday signing, Yeah, hu Aenio Suarez, Gina is

1846
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: coming back to Cincinnati. A Huenio Suarez is now a Red,

1847
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: adding some much needed power in the middle of that lineup.

1848
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: How it all fits together? Jeff Carr from Lockdown Reds

1849
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: next on seven hundred WLW Scott slunha.

1850
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 4: Sloany here, seven hundred w old editor.

1851
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 2: Never mind the deep, deep deep freeze we're in right

1852
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 2: now and have been for a week in the foreseeable future.

1853
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: Never mind about the snow moving in tomorrow. Let's talk

1854
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: about something warmer, and that is Red's baseball coming up.

1855
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: We kind of threw the town said I'm not going

1856
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: to get anybody. They're not gonna get anybody. Sure enough,

1857
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 2: the Reds do a deal finalized yesterday, Iohanneo Suarez, the

1858
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: former Red comes back home one year, fifteen million dollar deal,

1859
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: club option for twenty our mutual option, I should say

1860
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty seven. So far, looks like he's the

1861
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: best free agent bat still available because you couldn't afford

1862
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: the big boys, and any Suarez should ad some meat

1863
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 2: to the middle of that order. Joining the show with

1864
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: Lockdown Reds Podcast. The only daily Reds podcast is Jeff

1865
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: car Jeff, welcome back. Good to have you, buddy.

1866
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 5: How are you welly. It's great to be back, Great

1867
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 5: to be talking some baseball. And oh my gosh, I

1868
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 5: warmed up so much on Sunday evening.

1869
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 4: Last night it broke They traded him, and what was it?

1870
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: I think in March of twenty twenty two he was

1871
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 2: crying saying, you know, maybe I'll finish here and now

1872
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: he's back. You know, I think some fans may look

1873
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: at it go well, if you wait long enough, you

1874
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: get you know, he went Suarez coming back in the

1875
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: twilight of his career perhaps, and that's more of a hey,

1876
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: let's bring back somebody more familiar, as opposed to going

1877
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: and getting someone who could really wind up getting a

1878
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: pennant or dare I say, a World Series trophy.

1879
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 4: So what does this all mean.

1880
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 2: It's a good fit, clearly he was here before, but

1881
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: is this just simply hey, this is the best we

1882
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: can afford right now?

1883
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 4: And it's more about nostalgia than his production.

1884
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 5: There's a very weird cross section that the Reds are

1885
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 5: running into with this and that, yes, he is the

1886
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 5: best that they can afford, but honestly, he's a really

1887
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 5: good upgrade. We're talking about a dude that, between Arizona

1888
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 5: and Seattle last year hit forty nine home runs and

1889
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 5: had over one hundred and ten rs. I think he

1890
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 5: had one hundred and eighteen specifically, and he slugged over

1891
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 5: five hundred. No regular Reds player did that. You have

1892
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 5: to like separate out guys that played in like thirty

1893
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 5: games or something like that to say, okay, well he

1894
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 5: had a really good slugging percentage. There's a lot of

1895
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 5: singles hitters on this lineup. Last year, while the idea

1896
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 5: was to keep the line moving forward, that idea produced

1897
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 5: a very mid offense. The Dolphins wasn't horrible. The lineup

1898
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 5: was not horrible last year, but the lineup also wasn't good.

1899
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 5: And if you just have a slightly above average lineup,

1900
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 5: you can reduce the kind of runs that this pitching

1901
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 5: staff that is absolutely October ready can really back up strongly.

1902
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 5: And so you bring in au Haneo Suarez to protect

1903
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 5: Elie de la Cruz and you slot him in right

1904
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 5: behind him, whether that be in the three spot of

1905
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 5: the four spot, and the rest of the lineup begins

1906
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 5: to make sense. You don't have to force a square

1907
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 5: peg into a round hole and put Spencer Steer or

1908
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 5: Tyler Stevensoner or even force south Stewart into the cleanup

1909
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 5: spot prematurely. You can let those guys be those guys

1910
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 5: other spots on the lineup, while you have this veteran

1911
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 5: dude who was coming here to do one Thing's loney.

1912
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 5: He's coming here to hit danyers yep, and he's been

1913
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 5: pretty good at doing that.

1914
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: Pretty good at that, don't him for his defense? Not

1915
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: really a good third base, third basement. I may I

1916
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: got a pinch, Maybe you can play. Uh does it

1917
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: concern you the highest strikeout rate.

1918
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 5: Now, because that's the game today, and that's something that

1919
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 5: other people had talked about. Between strikeout rates and between

1920
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 5: batting average is the only hit two twenty eight last

1921
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 5: year as far as the game itself, that's just how

1922
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 5: everything has moved. The league average batting average last year

1923
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 5: was two forty one, so he was still slightly below it,

1924
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 5: but he wasn't like egregiously below it as we would

1925
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 5: have seen in years past that that two twenty eight

1926
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 5: mark means. So the line is kind of moved when

1927
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 5: it comes to those things. But he is an extra

1928
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 5: base hitting machine.

1929
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the improved bullpen, he got depth in

1930
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: the outfield, and now you've got a guy in the

1931
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 2: middle of the order that can really help out. You

1932
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 2: mentioned protecting La de la Cruz. Joey Vado when he

1933
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 2: played with him, said he was the best teammate ever,

1934
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: and now it is a veteran he comes back to Cincinnati,

1935
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: and I think that's another thing he provides because clearly

1936
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 2: somebody like Ellie needs a little direction and needs a

1937
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: little guidance and made he's the guy to get in

1938
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: the clubhouse and do that.

1939
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 5: Overall. Absolutely, like I feel like at Reds Fest, they're

1940
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 5: really pumped up Matt McClain to make him sound as

1941
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 5: though he's one of the leaders of this ball club.

1942
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 5: But I think that au Haanio Suarez, no matter who

1943
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 5: you deem, is the current leader to the ball club.

1944
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 5: Auan Suarez is going to come in and fit right

1945
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 5: in with that dude. It's been said no matter where

1946
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 5: he has played ever since he left the Reds, they've

1947
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,480
Speaker 5: all loved him. I mean, Seattle wanted to back this offseason.

1948
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 5: Arizona at least approached it a little bit. But Arizona's

1949
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 5: kind of in a weird spot where it's like there's

1950
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 5: a sort of contending sort of not but everybody sings

1951
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 5: his praises as far as the clubhouse guy goes, and

1952
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 5: he brings the sort of value to that that you

1953
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 5: can't measure with the numbers, and I think that that

1954
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 5: in and of itself will provide plenty of value for.

1955
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 2: This Yeah, in as far as injuries, you don't have

1956
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: to worry as much because he'd be solding in a DHRL.

1957
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1958
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,480
Speaker 5: I think there's going to be just like a sprinkling

1959
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 5: of time first base here in spring training to see

1960
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 5: if that's something he can do. And there's going to

1961
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 5: be just the inklean of time at third base. But

1962
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 5: they have key Brian Hayes over there, right, which, now

1963
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 5: that you have a guy that can mash in the

1964
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 5: DH spot, you can stomach of it on like hitting

1965
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 5: third basement a little bit more. I think that this

1966
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 5: move all around, like we've been critical all off season

1967
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 5: on the lockdown Reds podcast of what the front office

1968
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 5: has been doing. But this was the move to flip

1969
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 5: that narrative, and now it feels like the Reds have

1970
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 5: had a very good off season, even though it took

1971
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 5: two months to get to this.

1972
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Right right, He's Jeff Carr with Lockdown regis Only Daily

1973
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,799
Speaker 2: Reds podcast. Of course, the big news dropping late yesterday

1974
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 2: is the fact that the former Red A Huanu Suarez,

1975
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: is bringing his bats some forty nine home runs to

1976
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark, adding some meat to the heart of

1977
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 2: the order, which is certainly going to cause a lot

1978
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 2: of Reds fans waking up this morning to be joyful

1979
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: and getting ready for the snow to melt the temperatures

1980
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 2: go up in baseball. Back at GABP, the Reds are

1981
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: projected to have Jeff only I think three million left

1982
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: before they hit their payroll ceiling. They slined Souarez to

1983
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 2: fifteen no salary dumps. For those who are critical, maybe

1984
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: like yourself, of the Reds and their spending, does this change?

1985
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 2: Does this look like they change their philosophy?

1986
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 4: Someone I saw that.

1987
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 5: Charlie Goldsmith reported last night that according to sources, the

1988
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 5: Reds don't have to make a move to quote, you know,

1989
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 5: afford this. They are making an effort to finally put

1990
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 5: together a winner and spend what it takes to do that.

1991
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 5: And now that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to go

1992
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 5: out and throw three hundred million dollars at the free

1993
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 5: agent list, but they know that there's a couple of

1994
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 5: supplemental areas that they can make this team better. And

1995
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 5: we've been saying it all off season two that it's like,

1996
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 5: you don't have to rebuild the lineup, you just have

1997
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 5: to bring in a bopper, because the bopper is what

1998
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 5: makes this lineup makes sense. They don't have that guy currently,

1999
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 5: and while south Stewart could very well develop into that guy,

2000
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 5: I think it's stuper wise and a very big deviation

2001
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 5: from who their character has been over the last already

2002
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 5: plus years that the Reds are not saying, well, yes,

2003
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 5: that's what we're betting on. We're betting on some unproven

2004
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 5: guy to come in here and prove it. They're gonna say, yeah,

2005
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 5: sure he can prove it, but we also have a

2006
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 5: proven guy that can back him up. But I think

2007
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 5: that this this has been such a shift, this one move,

2008
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 5: that I don't necessarily believe was going to happen until

2009
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 5: some things fell into place because the markets moved in

2010
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 5: such a way, like reportedly the Boston Red Sox were

2011
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 5: looking to sign the you Hani as far as the

2012
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Pirates had noted, like reported that they were going

2013
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 5: to match or beat any offer that the Reds had,

2014
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 5: and Gino was like, nope, I'm going to Cincinnati. So

2015
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 5: I think there was a little bit of familiarity in

2016
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 5: there and a little bit of he just wasn't getting

2017
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 5: the offers he wanted, and so he's like, let me

2018
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 5: go back to the place that I already hit forty

2019
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 5: nine at Let's see if we hit fifty nine or

2020
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 5: sixty nine. Who that man here?

2021
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 3: And then we'll see what they pay me next year?

2022
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 4: Okay? And that brings up the next question.

2023
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 2: And then Jeff is because he's doing one year, fifteen million,

2024
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,839
Speaker 2: a mutual option for twenty twenty seven, So okay, fifteen

2025
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 2: MILLI season. Initially I thought I saw that he was

2026
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: projected to get a two year minimum two year deal

2027
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 2: a forty five million, So he's living a lot of

2028
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 2: money on the table. What does that tell is a

2029
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: tremendous value or is it a concerned to the market collapse.

2030
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean, if all these teams are after him, why

2031
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 2: do we only get him for fifteen?

2032
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 5: A guy with his type of profile Sloani like, thinking

2033
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 5: just specifically in terms of the player, is probably looking

2034
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 5: for his final dealer of his career, and he wasn't

2035
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 5: getting that. He wasn't getting the kind of offer that

2036
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 5: he's like, all right, I can hang my hat here

2037
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 5: and then, you know, make sure that this is good

2038
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 5: to go and at the end of my career I

2039
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 5: can be happy about this. I think he was probably

2040
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,600
Speaker 5: getting that two year deal where he probably won in

2041
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 5: three or four, because you're right, I saw lots of

2042
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 5: twenty four twenty five million dollars a year. I did

2043
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 5: at one point see somebody project a three year deal

2044
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 5: for twenty million per The fact that the Reds got

2045
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 5: him at fifteen is just so phenomenal, and it's the

2046
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 5: kind of deal that as I look around the league

2047
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 5: and I look at the coverage that other teams have

2048
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 5: pretty much every team. I even saw something about the

2049
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 5: Mets that they're just like boy, looking at the Jorgey

2050
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 5: Polanco deal that the New York Mets signed early on

2051
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 5: in the off season, that looks pretty bad now with

2052
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 5: Ayu Hami Osuarez signing what he did, So like everybody

2053
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 5: is invious of the Reds? Is that right to say?

2054
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 5: Can I say yeah, to say that people are envious

2055
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 5: of the Reds and an off season, Oh.

2056
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 2: You got a thirty four year old DH and but

2057
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: you know one year deal is like that. That's a

2058
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 2: no brain risk, no risk, no risk.

2059
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 5: And that's the one thing that I've always wondered about

2060
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 5: Nick Krawl is that can he make that big risky move?

2061
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 5: But if there's moves like this that are available that

2062
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 5: aren't risky, how can you blame a guy for not

2063
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,839
Speaker 5: going too crazy on the risk department?

2064
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other concern I mentioned the batting average too,

2065
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 2: But you know you got to get past the Dodgers.

2066
01:35:58,520 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 2: It all runs through the Dodgers.

2067
01:35:59,720 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 7: Now.

2068
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not going to be dismissive of the Cubs

2069
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 2: and the Brewers at this point or anyone in the division,

2070
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 2: but we saw what they did last season. Arguably a

2071
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 2: much better team now than they were in October. Not

2072
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 2: only was Suarez, what they've done with a bullpen and

2073
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: everything else, and is what sub three hundred on base

2074
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 2: percentage is concerning for a guy they're expecting these.

2075
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 4: Kind of results out of.

2076
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 2: But I look at it go you know, the Dodgers

2077
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 2: struck out the Reds what fifty four times in four games,

2078
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 2: and Chavez ravine this doesn't really.

2079
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 4: Help that.

2080
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 5: The strikeout part is something that I don't necessarily worry

2081
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 5: about because he can change the game with one swing,

2082
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 5: just because I feel like it's the power game that

2083
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 5: the Reds have missed. The idea that the rally can

2084
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 5: be built is always a good thing, But at some

2085
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 5: point you run into a picture like Yamamoto who is

2086
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 5: absolutely dealing, and you need that guy that with one swing.

2087
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 6: In the back can change the game.

2088
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 5: And we know that Gino can do that. So I

2089
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 5: mean I ordinarily, looking at a guy with a sub

2090
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 5: three hundred on base percentage, you kind of going yeah, right, yeah.

2091
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 5: So I don't blame you there for thinking that. But

2092
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 5: I am just absolutely over the moon about the five

2093
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 5: twenty eight plugging percentage and the fact that the isolated

2094
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 5: power statistic that a lot of folks like to use

2095
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 5: because it's the slugging percentage minus the batting average. The

2096
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 5: idea of separating the extra he sits out from the

2097
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 5: singles his career isolated powers to eighteen. There was no

2098
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 5: regular reds hitter last year over two hundred. That's how

2099
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 5: much better than everyone else in this lineup he was

2100
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 5: at getting those extra bases.

2101
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,440
Speaker 2: Right right, And now you've got some little more flexibility

2102
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 2: and a lineup two on the other side of the thing,

2103
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 2: and primarily at the age as you mentioned salth Stewart

2104
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 2: at first, Spencer Steart left. There's there's a lot of

2105
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,719
Speaker 2: flexibility there because you still got guys like Hayes and Benson.

2106
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 5: And that's a very underrated part of this move because

2107
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 5: up until Augenio Suarez signed, you can maybe squint at

2108
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 5: the lineup and be like, twell, all right, but the bench,

2109
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I don't even know what the plan

2110
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 5: was there. But now today eu Haeneo Suarez is here.

2111
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 5: You used the positional versatility of both south Stewart and

2112
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 5: Spencer Steer, where one can play in the outfield, one

2113
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 5: can play pretty much every infield spot. And you know

2114
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 5: South Sport also losing twenty six pounds from last year.

2115
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 5: Your last image of him on the field in a

2116
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 5: Red's uniform, it's gonna look a lot different on opening

2117
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 5: day because dude's trimmed down and he's ready to go.

2118
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 5: So I feel like this both improved the starting lineup

2119
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 5: and the bench just simply because of how it changes

2120
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:35,719
Speaker 5: the role of guys like Steer and Stewart.

2121
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I like my sales Stewart thick and chunky.

2122
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't tell it, guys.

2123
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 5: It makes me feel like I could fit into his

2124
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 5: uniform AND's done a whole lot of players that I

2125
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 5: feel that way.

2126
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 4: That's the guy. He's like, you know, it's like he's

2127
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 4: the every guy guy. I like Sales Stewart that way,

2128
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 4: and not enough Mike Ford's in this world the man.

2129
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 4: Come on, Yeah, I appreciate it, right right, He's like that.

2130
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 2: Gives us all hope all you know, you get that

2131
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: little thick Middlesex. It's like, hey, he's a baseball player,

2132
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 2: as John Cruxa. Lady, I'm not an athlete. I'm a

2133
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 2: baseball player. So yeah, I mean, there is now hope

2134
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: in Red. So it's amazing how signing a Suarez has

2135
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 2: changed the hope's dreams and desires of regination and one

2136
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: fell swoop and they did it pretty much on the

2137
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 2: cheap at this point. Now, I know the payroll you

2138
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 2: go back to that they're twenty twenty five pro. I

2139
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: think it is one nineteen hundred and nineteen million. Is

2140
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 2: this a new trend do you think? Or again, it's

2141
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 2: always hard to read with one player, But is it

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Speaker 2: a one is it a one off because it's Juarez

2143
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 2: or do you just see them going, hey, you know what,

2144
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 2: we're close, let's get closer.

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Speaker 5: I still think it's it's the close let's get closer

2146
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Speaker 5: that I'm willing to buy into that feeling. Albeit that's

2147
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 5: not been something that we've seen from this organization over

2148
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,839
Speaker 5: the years. I understand that. But the signing of ating

2149
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 5: of Sours could have easily been something that they're like,

2150
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 5: you know what, we don't need. There's these other guys

2151
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,799
Speaker 5: that are a tier below him and a lot cheaper

2152
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 5: than him, and we can go bring that guy in.

2153
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 5: And that's what they do. That's what they have done

2154
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 5: my entire life is what it feels like. But I

2155
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 5: saw a comparison to a great one year stent of

2156
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 5: a red in Greg Vaughan that somebody made for the

2157
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 5: se u Haano Suarez deal. And if that's what that

2158
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 5: turns into, then hopefully they can just build on that

2159
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,480
Speaker 5: further because there's a lot of dead money in Jammercandelario

2160
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Speaker 5: coming off the book next year that is currently on

2161
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Speaker 5: the books this year. So there's a belief that this

2162
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 5: could continue. But at the same time, they know they've

2163
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 5: got their stars on the cheap. The core is cheap

2164
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 5: right now, so let's go ahead and supplement that core

2165
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Speaker 5: with a couple of guys like this. And I've been

2166
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 5: saying it all off season. If it just made this

2167
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 5: one move, I would feel better about things. Could they

2168
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,560
Speaker 5: make more moves and I'd feel even better better than Yes. Absolutely,

2169
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 5: But at this point, if they hadn't have made the

2170
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 5: Suarez deal, I'd have been like, well, the off season

2171
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 5: was something, and they made the bullpen better.

2172
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, they still have a glaring hole.

2173
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Speaker 5: In the lineup.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that any Yeah, and you

2175
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: got Tito running this whole thing, so you're worried about

2176
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 2: guys getting time. He figures that out, which is awesome.

2177
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 2: You've got your bullpennis set now, as you said, the

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Speaker 2: road starting rotation is good.

2179
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Speaker 4: The outfield we've got depth, You've got a hitter.

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Speaker 2: You know, if if the hoping dream was to make

2181
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs for the first time in forever, and they

2182
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 2: did that last year, got swept of course by LA.

2183
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: You'd expect now a little bit more pressure going, Okay,

2184
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 2: we're in, we spent more, Can we get to the

2185
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 2: next round? Can we continue to win more games and

2186
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 2: do better in the postseason and not get you know,

2187
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: not get eliminated in a handful of games? And that

2188
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: was awful, right, I mean, it was just awful. They

2189
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 2: just got absolutely hammered by the DIY. I just wanted

2190
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 2: to win World Series. So if you're gonna lose, list

2191
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: to the champions, but you want to be the champions,

2192
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 2: and this gives a little more hope.

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Speaker 4: He's Jeff Carr at the Lockdown Reds.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna head out to the spring training

2195
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 2: as you're writing about now, getting the bags packed, I

2196
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: would think. And so we'll chat check with you from

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01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 2: time to time out and out in Arizona. Jeff all

2198
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 2: the best man. Look for to chatting again the season.

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Speaker 5: So appreciate you all right on that.

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01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,799
Speaker 2: We've got Willie on the way in just a few minutes,

2201
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 2: and so much going on in the world, including the ice,

2202
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 2: the snow, the storm coming tomorrow, I'll keep you all

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Speaker 2: updated here on the Home of those Reds.

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Speaker 4: Seven hundred W. Dobody, Cincinnati,