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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?

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Speaker 2: On the weekend in the books, and we're back at

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Speaker 2: here Scott's fold thanks for jumping in the show on

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Speaker 2: seven hundred ww. You know, even without the mass shooting,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's crime numbers are up sixty two percent, I believe

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Speaker 2: to the first ten weeks ten eleven weeks of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, and in one western neighborhood, of course, two

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Speaker 2: eleven year old's now killed at the same playground. Since

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, we had a dangerous street takeover on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night early Sunday morning, resulting in arrests and great

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Speaker 2: work by CPD.

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Speaker 1: By the way, So here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: We're halfway through March and it's snowing. What happens this

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Speaker 2: summer when the city actually is out in full force

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Speaker 2: and what's the city actually doing to maybe prevent or

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Speaker 2: tamp down a lot of this crime? Joined the show

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Speaker 2: is council member Seth Walsh. Seth, how you been? How's

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Speaker 2: life you good?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Scott getting ready for the snow today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you thought it was over, It's just beginning.

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Speaker 3: I'm that's way.

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Speaker 2: What the damn plowd tracker doesn't work. It's a seventy yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Day.

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Speaker 1: Even the software says I'm out. Software tapped out.

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Speaker 2: But seriously, Saturday night, and this could have been much

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Speaker 2: worse than it was. You have to give one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent of the credit to CPD because they did a

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Speaker 2: fantastic job. I think thirty nine people arrested, sixty five

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Speaker 2: cars tow during a mass street takeover, and it happened

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Speaker 2: in several different areas. They picked up a couple I

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Speaker 2: think stolen guns as well. One of the places where

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Speaker 2: they congregated was Riverfront Live parking lot, and that's the

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Speaker 2: same venue, of course, where nine people were shot just

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: The bigger picture, though, is we've.

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Speaker 2: Seen bar and dining in public transportation, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: other numbers indicating that that is down in the city. Now.

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Speaker 2: Some of that may be the weather, another part of

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Speaker 2: that may be the economy, But how much is crime

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Speaker 2: impacting all that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the issue was crime conversation You and I

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Speaker 3: have professional stingy be having right and unfortunately the city

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Speaker 3: this conversation we're going to continue to have. I think

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Speaker 3: it's important to take a step back and really appreciate,

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Speaker 3: as you said, what CPD was able to do, able

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Speaker 3: to get ahead of this, you know, you know, road

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Speaker 3: take over and arrest all these bad actors. They were

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Speaker 3: coming out participate in that, and that's really you know,

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Speaker 3: it's an interest point. It's just the ground that we're

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Speaker 3: seeing around the city because you know, the people that

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Speaker 3: were coming from that weren't Offinnatians. I don't. I've actually

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Speaker 3: gets many work even the Stadius they're coming across. The

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Speaker 3: problems in the city. It was kind of wild the

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Speaker 3: reports I'm getting who they were even finding there, and

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Speaker 3: people bringing their kids to this for example. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a dangerous something was being pulled off. And so

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Speaker 3: first off, I just think the polices are a big

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Speaker 3: accolades for that. The staffs, though, are the stacts. And

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Speaker 3: so I think there's some good questions that you're going

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Speaker 3: to be asking me about. You know, why are these

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Speaker 3: crime up and anytime you have crime to problems and

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Speaker 3: we got to do more to fix that. But you know,

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Speaker 3: this is the priority that I've had since I got

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Speaker 3: a city council. Continue to point to the fact that

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Speaker 3: we are dramatically understaffed in the police Department. While they're

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Speaker 3: able to have these great moments like this weekend, we

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Speaker 3: are still dropping the ball city leaders in terms of

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Speaker 3: making sure they're fully funded to be able to do

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Speaker 3: able to be successful on our streets.

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Speaker 2: Do they need more tools and more bullets in the belt,

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Speaker 2: so to speak? Because if you go back to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, the state of Ohio moved to increase the

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Speaker 2: penalties for street racing and you and Vice Mayor Jana

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Speaker 2: Sheloman Kearney opposed it. Does this change your mind? Should

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Speaker 2: it be more than a misdemeanor? What I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a payout ticket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Jeff Cramond and I actually were talking about

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Speaker 3: this last night, talked fume to Jeff Cramandy and I

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Speaker 3: Jefferies already has the motion he's putting forward SASS for

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Speaker 3: and actually kind of moved to just amend our ornments

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Speaker 3: on it. Because thirty nine people being arrested as an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what made you change your mind on there

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Speaker 2: or say, hey, we do need to get harder?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it the size of this one? I mean, thirty

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Speaker 2: nine arrests, sixty five cars and it's March. As I said,

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Speaker 2: you know this is going to happen more and then

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Speaker 2: maybe bigger ones over the summer.

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Speaker 1: God knows.

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Speaker 2: Is it a couple of years ago, maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a bigger deal as it is now, or what was

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Speaker 2: a catalyst?

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Speaker 3: No, I would say that you know, one thing I

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Speaker 3: think you appreciate about me, Scott when complay learning and

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Speaker 3: growing and at the time, I think this was my

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Speaker 3: spent a lot of time since then you know, integrating

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Speaker 3: what's going on, And it was really an opening experience

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Speaker 3: when you go on a violent crime squad ride along

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Speaker 3: and you're an non marched police vehicle and you're seeing

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Speaker 3: you can't even tell are happy because you're not. You know,

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Speaker 3: you're not used to this, I mean, really changes your

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Speaker 3: mean and how does that actually matter? And so I

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Speaker 3: think for me, it's a matter of continuing to learn

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Speaker 3: because that's how we get bigger problems here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as I respect, I think most people listening

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Speaker 2: to it's like, yeah, you're learning. You're young man, you

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Speaker 2: learn on the job and go Okay, well, we do

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Speaker 2: need tougher laws. I think that's a I think that's

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Speaker 2: a great answer. Council members Sess Walshawan with Sloani here

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Speaker 2: seven hundred W WELLW crime numbers are up sixty two

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Speaker 2: And of course we just had this three takeover. No

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Speaker 2: injuries or accidents, so thank God for that. But you're

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Speaker 2: talking thirty nine arrests, a couple of guns off the streets,

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Speaker 2: and sixty five cars towed in all credits to CPD

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Speaker 2: only a misdemeter one that's as low as you can go.

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Speaker 2: It's a ticket, that's about it. I know in northern

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Speaker 2: There's a lawmaker there who I had on that said, listen,

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Speaker 2: The three takeovers. We want to make it a felony.

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Speaker 2: What we want to do is after the second strike,

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Speaker 2: second time you're caught, we're going to take your car

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Speaker 1: Is that too extreme? Is that going too far?

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Speaker 3: I think the bigger the bigger issue. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that I have an opinion on, you know, first second

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Speaker 3: think there's probably more better ways that we can redistribute here.

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Speaker 3: But I think the bigger issue is you're look at

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Speaker 3: how many people had illegal guns that were arrested in

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Speaker 3: that and then we talked by gun violence and as

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Speaker 3: Scadding the issue with these takeovers. You know, it's started

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Speaker 3: And I feel like we're constantly hadn't to have conversations

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Speaker 2: And then this summer you're going to have the you know,

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Speaker 2: it comes to traffic enforcement. Seth Walsh, the city's on

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Speaker 2: crime report showed fifty two people shot in Cincy in

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Speaker 2: the first ten weeks at twenty twenty six, and that

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Speaker 2: it's up sixty two percent of the same time period

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Speaker 2: year over year. We've talked a lot about with you

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Speaker 2: all the anti violence measures Council approved last September, the

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Speaker 2: five million dollars spent, what why are crime numbers going

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Speaker 3: Man? If some may have the answer to that was Scott,

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Speaker 3: they would be a very rich person. Right now. It's

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Speaker 3: it's troubling, it's frustrating, it's dispartening. It makes you feel

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Speaker 3: I had the answer for why our choice seems to

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Speaker 3: I think we've just viety to come to them, to

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Speaker 3: continue to try to chase and put these measures and

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Speaker 3: the effect that are going to take long time to

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Speaker 2: How much of the problem, though, is outside of your

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Speaker 3: Look, I think we're talking about a really complicated topic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll play a little partisan Paul for a second here,

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Speaker 1: What does that.

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Speaker 1: Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: Point those fingers at each other right now. No, of course,

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Speaker 2: But the majority of city voters, assurers of the city voters,

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Speaker 3: Well. And so this is where I want to push

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Speaker 2: getting reassigned because of shortages and they're just retiring. That

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Speaker 2: that's a climate that this partisan bickerings helped create.

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Speaker 3: The one hundred and fifty police officer short is. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you should look at the data. It began during the

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Speaker 3: didn't have money to hire more officers, and then we

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Speaker 3: couldn't keep up with the retirements that were happening. Well, yes,

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Speaker 3: college I can't I can't. I can't speak to the

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Speaker 3: leadership those here, but I can tell you it was

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Speaker 3: a nine Democrats. My counsel will not happen. I can

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Speaker 3: tell you that they were negotiating with the Republicans and

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Speaker 3: the Charter and the Democrats. So to your to the

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Speaker 3: point that you were trying to make earlier, you know

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Speaker 3: a lot of the problems we have now we're not

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Speaker 3: when is an I'm member Democrat, and so I think

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Speaker 3: we have to acknowledge in the city we are dealing

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Speaker 3: with historic problems that have come for whatever reasons. Now

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Speaker 3: we have to solve them. And we can point fingers

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Speaker 3: all we want, or we can get to work solving

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Speaker 3: the problems. And I would argue, let's get to work

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Speaker 3: solve the problem because tomorrow, you know, we need to

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Speaker 3: not have any violence. You know, the next day we

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Speaker 3: don't have any violence. And whether you're a Democrat, republic

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Speaker 3: and I think we all agree with that. So let's

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Speaker 3: get to work. Let's how we do that.

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Speaker 2: Are you a little scared about what's coming? I mean,

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Speaker 2: if this is March, what the hell is do you

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Speaker 2: don't going to look like July August?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of the things that keeps me

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Speaker 3: up to night, and it's one of the things that

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Speaker 3: much as I can, because we got to do better

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Speaker 3: for our police to make sure they can go out

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Speaker 3: there to do the best for us. Famous fire. You

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Speaker 3: know we didn't touch on this. You know there is

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Speaker 3: an anomaly happen here right now with single family homes

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Speaker 3: catching on fire and fatality is coming with that. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: that care you? Why is that happening? And I think

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Speaker 3: we gave the root of that as well. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to These are real issues that that you keep me

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Speaker 3: up at night and I keep trying to solve. But

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Speaker 3: they're not going to be easy solutions. But we're not

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Speaker 3: going to solve it by ignoring the fact that their

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Speaker 3: real problems.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean exceptionally cold winter too. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the the main allar But Seth, I got to keep going, man.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the great debate. Felt like we were having

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Speaker 2: a beer there for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Hey all the best, keep keep doing what you appreciate

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Speaker 2: you man, Take care all right. Conscomember Seth Walsh on

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Speaker 2: the Scott's Lunch this morning, running really late here seven

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Speaker 2: hundred w