WEBVTT - Scott Sloan with Kevin Burton -- 10/28/25

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<v Speaker 1>So we jump in this morning with news a governor

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<v Speaker 1>a shutdown of course, approaching the thirty day mark, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting to become a growing liability for both the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats and Republicans. So Republicans passed the Continuing Resolution, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically kicking the can down the road to fund government.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we do now is continuing resolutions and then

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<v Speaker 1>address it later on. And the threat of shutting the

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<v Speaker 1>government will happen in another seven weeks. So Democrats have

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<v Speaker 1>blocked it. They want enhanced Obamacare subsidies and want Medicaid funding,

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<v Speaker 1>and now with forty two million people set to lose

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<v Speaker 1>flo's assistance with snap benefits, on Saturday. Is anyone feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure at all to get this thing wrapped up?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll know too that congressional approval rating has plummeted

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty six percent, which is awful, to fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>in the past month. A fifteen percent approval rating. To

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<v Speaker 1>put that in perspective, the Cincinnati Bengals defense has an

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen percent approval rating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how bad it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Burton is a political analyst at Crosstown Consulting in

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<v Speaker 1>northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin, welcome back. How are you? Thanks for having me, sloney,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into the national politics of this, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to put our local head on and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you isn't a keen observer of both sides of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio River. We have an election coming up in seven days.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor aft Ted Pureval has fired but not fired Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Thiji Terry Thigi, the police chief. They're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>until the end of the year. They've hired Frost Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd and Company to poke and prod and find out

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<v Speaker 1>why they fired her. If that makes any sense, that

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have to make sense because it's politics. I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that Aftab will not pay a political price for this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll get reelected. But you wonder about members of council.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's gonna have to pay the price, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Thiji. I think would you agree or disagree?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean for as mayor Aftabs going to

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<v Speaker 3>win reelection, you you know, you have about as good

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<v Speaker 3>as chances getting a date with uh Plly Berry as

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<v Speaker 3>astab Pas is losing, like it's not gonna happen, He's

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<v Speaker 3>going to win. The real question is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of legacy family names on the ballot

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<v Speaker 3>this time. Uh you know, you have a Mallory, you

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<v Speaker 3>have a dree House, Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Lukta Cole is a well known name.

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<v Speaker 3>So the question really is how many people vote, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say six incumbents, two or three of the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>non incumbents, and is that enough to get someone like

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<v Speaker 3>a Chris Smitherman.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Liz Keating through the finish line.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we can all speculate, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>say Chris Smitherman unless Heating are the two best to

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<v Speaker 3>break the stronghold of the Democratic All Council.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you wonder who loses.

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<v Speaker 1>I think last time it was council Member Anna Oldby

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<v Speaker 1>is the one who I think she was just above

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<v Speaker 1>that the threshold, right, the nine papose person to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you wonder who it is going to be this

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<v Speaker 1>time for sure, But somebody's going to pay some price.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just too many people running and there's too much upheaval,

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<v Speaker 1>and namely with this crime issue that's polarizing everybody. Aftab

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<v Speaker 1>will be just fine. But at the same time, politically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>in seven days and I think he's pretty much a

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<v Speaker 1>lock at this point. No such thing. You never know,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't see the demand by people who

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<v Speaker 1>live in Hamlin County, specifically Cincinnati's saying, yeah, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of him. I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 1>alternative is better or not. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are lobbing, but I'm not sure that works in

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<v Speaker 1>all blue Hamlin, deep blue Hamlin County. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be on somewhat of a short

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<v Speaker 1>lease with the new council coming in and go correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that what he's going to have to pay politically,

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<v Speaker 1>is he's going to have to probably be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more in tune with what's happening and doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>as much wiggle room as he used to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, first off, the city of Cincinnati voted

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<v Speaker 3>roughly seventy five to twenty five percent for Harris versus Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>So you can suffer a lot of defections and still

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<v Speaker 3>be completely fine, you know. For Astab, I think the

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<v Speaker 3>bigger issue is going to be the posturing of council

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<v Speaker 3>candidates after this election, because he's term limited out for

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<v Speaker 3>mayor and what's what's the number one thing politicians do?

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<v Speaker 2>They try to make themselves look better.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think for the next you know, two four years,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a different council because now the

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<v Speaker 3>stakes are you know, there's more at stake because all

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<v Speaker 3>of them want to be mayor. So I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to start seeing more pushback, more, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Different thought processes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'll be interesting to see does the dismissal of

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Thiji play with the electorate. You know, we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little more newsy and news cycle. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I can smell BS a mile away. Uh you

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<v Speaker 1>can too. I think most people listening have a good

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<v Speaker 1>sense of that as well, because you look at this

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<v Speaker 1>makes no sense whatever, But the typical voter doesn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>that close attention. Do the optics of her dismissal or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess her suspension while I investigate what is it

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<v Speaker 1>she did wrong? Which is completely backwards? Does that actually

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<v Speaker 1>play with voters?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we will see in seven days. Historically, no, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, everyone always talked about how they're tired of

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<v Speaker 3>the status quo, you know, and all this. Ninety one

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the time, the better finance candidates win, ninety

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the time, you know, the incumbents win.

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<v Speaker 2>Right at the end of the day, it's up to

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<v Speaker 2>the voters.

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<v Speaker 3>And time and time again, voters for just have apathy

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<v Speaker 3>and they just keep voting for whoever's in office. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and no real change ever really happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and then first of all, it's deep blue, so

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<v Speaker 1>it favors after pure vol has incombinated favors in. But

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<v Speaker 1>also the the money. He's over three hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Corey Bowman, the challenger has less than sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of tells you what he's up against THEREA.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's shift to what's going on the federal government. Kevin Burton,

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<v Speaker 1>political analysts with crossdown consultings, upholster with the shutdown itself,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're as I said at the beginning, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I hate you on to it's all theater. For

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<v Speaker 1>the first few weeks of the shutdown, it's nothing but theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Because eight percent of government is shut down. The other

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two percent is doing just fine. It's like letting

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<v Speaker 1>the receptionists go home early, turning the lights out in

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<v Speaker 1>the front office. But people are still working behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you don't see the forward facing stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>parks and trash pickup and stuff like that. There are

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<v Speaker 1>forty two million people, forty two million families set to

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<v Speaker 1>lose food assistance with SNAP shutting down on Saturday because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no funding. I asked, who's feeling the pressure at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty percent blame Republicans, forty three percent blame Democrats with independence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about fifty one to thirty four Republican. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why is because Republicans controlled the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate in the House, so that makes them the

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<v Speaker 1>more vulnerable party. But the numbers starting to shift relative

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<v Speaker 1>to people blaming Democrats with US.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, in the last three weeks it was substantially more.

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<v Speaker 3>It basically went from thirteen points now down to seven.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so the Republicans have closed the gaps, but

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>much lower it's going to go because they do control

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<v Speaker 3>both chamber, and you know, frankly, both parties are gambling

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<v Speaker 3>with forty two million lives, which I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the bigger issue that we should be talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>That Just get the job done. Like you guys are elected,

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<v Speaker 3>you are still getting paid. But if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>fly with TSA or anything, it's a nightmare. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just think the American people just want it done. Just

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<v Speaker 3>get the deal done. That's what you're elected, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats will say, well, we're getting some traction here because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're on the right side with healthcare. Americans

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<v Speaker 1>favor us and our plans with healthcare. Republicans really don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a plan. And we just had seven million people

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<v Speaker 1>will show up to attend a No Kings rally, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the hell that was, that has no impact whatsoever for them.

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<v Speaker 1>To look at the No Kings rally go A million

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<v Speaker 1>people showed up this week in the protest. They all

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<v Speaker 1>protested Trump for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, no, and sometimes when you're the loudest,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't mean anything. It's you know, it's an echo chamber.

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<v Speaker 3>The real question is how many new people did you get?

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<v Speaker 3>Because at the end of the day, Trump has figured

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<v Speaker 3>out that his model of it's fifty plus one, So

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<v Speaker 3>every single election is fifty percent of the vote plus

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<v Speaker 3>one more person. And he knows his basse, he knows

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<v Speaker 3>how to turn him out bigger than everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a lot of silent Trump voters.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, at the end of the day, Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>need to play the smart and frankly, you know, jakeem

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffries and Chuck Schumer have looked kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>deer in a headlight. Regardless of what you thought of

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<v Speaker 3>Nancy Pelosi, she stood on she was a fighter, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Can you say the same about those two?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, The thing is if this shutdown extends in November,

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<v Speaker 1>we're closing in thirty five days is the longest period

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<v Speaker 1>we have with a shutdown. That's largely because of the

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<v Speaker 1>real cuts. We start to see the theaters at the

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<v Speaker 1>first few weeks. Now you're starting to see the real

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<v Speaker 1>results of the shutdown. People not getting food, and food

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<v Speaker 1>is instance. And like, if this extends into November and

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<v Speaker 1>we see the Obamacare premiums hit millions of Americans, which

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<v Speaker 1>party's better position to capitalize on that. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>say the Democrats, But with the leadership and lack of

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<v Speaker 1>direction they have, I don't think that's necessarily true to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I would still favor the Democrats just because healthcare is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of their number one thing. And frankly, you just

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<v Speaker 3>said Obamacare. So if Obamacare goes up three you know,

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<v Speaker 3>three times under a president, you're going to be like, well, under.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama was this.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just think it speaks more of just how

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<v Speaker 3>in the last twelve years you can't get anything done anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's so polarizing.

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<v Speaker 3>That, you know, frankly, both sides need to concede a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit and if it's good for eighty five percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the country, just get the deal done.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're complaining and you're part of the no

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<v Speaker 1>Kings movement, which I know, we have a king because

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<v Speaker 1>he just does what he wants with executive order, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of what we're talking about. The Congress is so ineffective,

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<v Speaker 1>so gridlocks and dead luck that they you know, we certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden had his share of executive orders. Now Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has exceeded that for sure, but that that's the new reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Congress isn't doing their job. They're not legislating anymore. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just leaving good to the president and their guy via

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<v Speaker 1>executive order.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why we should have term limits in Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, frankly, you have people in there who's been

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<v Speaker 3>in all like their careers have been thirty plus years

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<v Speaker 3>in Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out, you're too old, right, like sorry, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, it boggles my mind that we have.

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<v Speaker 3>Term limits for governors, we have term limits for presidents,

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<v Speaker 3>but heaven forbid, senators and representatives have terms now.

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<v Speaker 1>Pilots, truck drivers, there's all sorts of occupations in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world where you can't work past a certain age,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how an eighty plus year old lawmaker is relevant. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to explain them how an iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>works before you can actually address the issues of legislating

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<v Speaker 1>what that looks like, and no idea whatsoever. They're completely clueless.

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<v Speaker 1>And those are the most senior people in leadership positions.

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<v Speaker 1>The Shoomer's the world. There's just so many of them

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and I think we can do better, and

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<v Speaker 1>term limits are certainly part of that. Kevin, regarding this,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, do you think that there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be cool or heads like, is it really going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the fact that forty too many people won't

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<v Speaker 1>get snap benefits starting on Saturday? That's kind of like overplayed,

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<v Speaker 1>but that hits home for a lot of people, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, go to the grocery store and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>like the cost of beef. You know, I'm nowhere certainly near,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, receiving public assistance. I go to the store

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<v Speaker 1>and I see ground beef. I go, yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I like ground beef. But I'm good I'm not paying

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of prices right now. That that's really got

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<v Speaker 1>to hit home for these lawmakers. Do you see this

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<v Speaker 1>thing ending before Saturday that they're going to come to

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<v Speaker 1>a conclusion And if so, let's get down the path

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<v Speaker 1>of what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's that's the billion dollar question.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, gambling with forty two million lives is a

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<v Speaker 3>risky proposition for both sides. I don't have the data

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<v Speaker 3>of where those forty two million.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, voters are, but it's kind of like a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you have an exam, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>push it off, push it off, push it off. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Friday is kind of the date you have

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<v Speaker 3>to get it done by, and if you don't, then

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<v Speaker 3>there's actual serious consequences. And this keeps going longer in November.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the busiest time of the year to travel

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<v Speaker 3>is during Thanksgiving, so you're going to create even more

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<v Speaker 3>of a headache with TSA and the air traffic. So

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<v Speaker 3>to your point, starting Saturday is when you know it

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<v Speaker 3>really hits home.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're seeing a fifteen percent approval rating. Fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>that has got to be close to an all time

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<v Speaker 1>low for Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet you know ninety percent of the incumbents will still win.

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<v Speaker 3>It is you know, it's the complete It's just amazing that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we all agree that Congress isn't effective, but

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<v Speaker 3>then you know everyone turns around and just rubber stamps

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<v Speaker 3>them again. And I think the interesting thing is, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're kind of seeing this with up in New York

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<v Speaker 3>with Mindani and that in a lot of ways, the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats are kind of going through what Republicans did you

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<v Speaker 3>know ten years ago that they felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>party apparatus has sailed them, and there's kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a revolt. You know, so like the neo liberals,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be shocked if.

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<v Speaker 3>He starts seeing maybe even Chuck Schumer and all these

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<v Speaker 3>older ones and get primaried because you know, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what Trump and you know, the Maga movement kind

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<v Speaker 3>of really did that, you know, simply they said that

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<v Speaker 3>we are tired of the status quo and you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of let us down the road and we've gotten nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Massy a great example of that where you are

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. To get out of this mess, they'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to strike a deal to save face. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if we're looking at the Democrats are talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got seven million Americans losing their healthcare. We're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent that. We we forced Republicans to back down

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<v Speaker 1>from gutting Obamacare, and this is what we're fighting for,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans to say, you know, we want a targeted relief,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want more socialism, socialist expansion. We save hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of billions of dollars, uh with you know, but by

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<v Speaker 1>gutting the by stopping this and restored responsible governance and

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<v Speaker 1>ended democratic obstruction cent So that's what both sides will say.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the winning messaging?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, on paper, it should be the Democrats, but

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<v Speaker 3>they've played everything wrong against Trump for the last decade.

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<v Speaker 2>However, So you know, if I was.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democrats right now, I would say, aren't we raking

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<v Speaker 3>in billions of dollars in tariffs? And then that helped

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<v Speaker 3>pay for this? But they're incompetent. Their leadership is incompetent.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you ask me, I think Republicans will come

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<v Speaker 3>out of this probably, you know, absolutely, fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would think so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just because the idea is and I think most

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<v Speaker 1>people realize, like, well, we're subsidizing something. Okay, great, and

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<v Speaker 1>I need it.

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<v Speaker 2>I need it today.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care it's going to bankrupt the country because

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<v Speaker 1>we're just borrowing more money. It's way too ex healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>is way too expensive. We're subsidizing that. That's other people's

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<v Speaker 1>tax money that you're subsidized with. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't afford to get cold or your fear that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my chronic illness is going to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't get coverage, and I'm going to fall

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<v Speaker 1>between the quack cracks and what happens. Everything I work

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<v Speaker 1>for is is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the urgency, that's a different matter entirely, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could see where both sides everything, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they just come to a conclusion. Go listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been too you know, if you get the

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<v Speaker 1>speakers together, the length and the pain of the shutdown,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been too long. It's probably we're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do something for thirty day, seven weeks, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We've proved our point. It's time to govern at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's got to do that, or both sides got to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, don't they.

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<v Speaker 2>He would think, So go to your job. Everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>has to do their job.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're still collecting paychecks, so you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The rule for the but not for me. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>just the story of our Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Where they can do insider training, where they can basically

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever they want and not actually have consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean they need to get to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that today.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ohio, there a meaning about the constitutional convention of

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<v Speaker 1>all things, which is a whole political you know a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different matter entirely, but about getting control and our

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<v Speaker 1>arms back around our government that they work for us. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you talk about no kings, but that would

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<v Speaker 1>apply to Congress as well based on what you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Burton is with Crosstown Consulting. He's a political Anamson

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<v Speaker 1>polster in northern Kentucky. Kevin, thanks to the inside is

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<v Speaker 1>always good stuff. Thank you, Flney, appreciate it. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, what if you're going to put odds on

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<v Speaker 1>this thing as a political guy, the odds of this

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<v Speaker 1>thing ending, the shutdown ending by Saturday is what what

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<v Speaker 1>would you put money on?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say sixty five seventy percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so seven out of ten chance that this thing

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<v Speaker 1>is done by Saturday, they fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that you know, there's elections, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in a week from now, so there's real consequences, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're gambling with forty two million lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both sides will blank. You just have to.

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<v Speaker 1>The optics on that are terrible. Kevin, all the best,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again, brother, Yeah, I appreciate you. Let's get a

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<v Speaker 1>time out in we got a news update. Traffic is

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute disaster still in areas. Chuckle have an update

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<v Speaker 1>for you a real time on that one as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to just continue to be wet here

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<v Speaker 1>for the next couple of days. Weekend for the little

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<v Speaker 1>trick or Treat is looking pretty good though full details

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<v Speaker 1>in that in news in just about four here, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we return, a case has been made with an

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<v Speaker 1>untimely death. As far as talk about bodily autonomy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to make the case for being allowed to sell

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<v Speaker 1>your organs, and it has something to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>news happening over the weekend here local news for that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>just add sloanely seven hundred WLW