1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon, 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: picking up the pieces literally of Opening Day and so 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: much more. What a great joy it was until it wasn't. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: A wise man once said that normally Opening Day was 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: like a ceasefire, but not anymore, and we had terrible circumstances. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: National coverage is awful, the social media is alive, and 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you might recall with a big pow wow a few 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: days ago involving all the stakeholders in criminal law enforcement. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: They were all present talking about how the city was 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: going to be better. Joining you and I now is 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Shre Hello, the main anchor a Channel five, and Shari, 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: first of all, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: You and I are natives. We were born here, we 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: live here, we will die here. We love our city. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Until about five or six pm, it was a wonderful place, 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, because of mob rule, it changed. 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Give me your perspective on yesterday. The parade was great, 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the game was rile, but then all help broke. 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Loues. 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: I tell you really, honestly, this was just disgusting to me, 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: and as somebody who was born and raised here to 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: see that here you have a great day where. I 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: mean when I was walking in that parade honestly to 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: kind of give you chills when you're someone who's from 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: here and you see people ten twenty deep coming down 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: to celebrate baseball and kick off spring and in the 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: heart of our city, and I mean all along the 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: parade route, and of course the game kicks off, no problems. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: Around seven o'clock, we all get a break. And Kevin 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: Robinson even texted me and said, I'm here in sirens 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: all over the place. I think we're gonna have some 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: problems tonight. And it just got worse from there. I mean, 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: I was talking to police sources of mine saying they 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: recalled the swat team, they recalled the criminal response team. 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: You had officers requesting riot year on opening day evening. 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: And if I'm a business owner, I would be livid 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: that you have to I had to shut down my 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: business because you have mobs of kids, is what it 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: seemed like, you know, but mobs of people down there 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: who were just being disruptive, fighting and causing problems for 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: the people who are down there just wanting to have 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: a good time. And I'm sure a lot of it 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: too is drunken behavior. You know, people have been drinking 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: since you know, nine ten o'clock in the morning, before 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: the parade even got started, and then by that evening 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: it just gets out of control. But for me to 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: watch the videos I saw, and I saw one video 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: that actually got taken down, but it appeared to be 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: a guy pool a police officer, Cincinnati officer to the ground. 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: Then other officers jumped in and you could tell they 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: were having a really difficult time at that point in 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: the evening. It was still daylight getting people back, And 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: I thought, we are so lucky that somebody didn't die 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: last night, oh didn't get shot, that an officer didn't 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: end up having to pool his weapon. Because it was 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: the video you could tell it was that out of control. 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: And so here you have police officers having to be 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: recalled for that evening they have they had a lot 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: of officers down there, but you know, let's up in 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: a game. I'm sure they're thinking, Okay, we'll have you 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: guys on standby. We're hoping things don't get out of control. 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Then they have to call for riot gear. I mean, 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: it's honestly just blows my mind that this is where 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: we are in society. 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's happening in Chicago. I had a reporter on 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: from Chicago about a week ago talked about hundreds of 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: youths who on the weekends, on a good weather will 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: come down to the Loop and cause complete havoc, jump 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: on top of cars, beat up women, beat up men. 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: They go in the stores and loot the stores and 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: come back out. And the police in Chicago are told, look, 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: keep the lid on, don't arrest anyone. You have to 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: have an order to disperse. If they don't disperse, Before 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: you arrest somebody, you have to determine what their age is. 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Are they violating the curfew, Be careful who you arrest. 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: If you arrest someone, you have to leave, leave the scene. 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: And you can't leave the scene because there's too much 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: other stuff going on. So the police are throwing their 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: hands up. And now it's visited in the Cincinnati. The 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: video that you're referencing is someone thought he was licensed 81 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: in a sense to charge it a group of in 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: uniformed police officers with weapons and jump on them that 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: they roll to the ground. The police are told, hey, 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: be careful, you don't want to arrest If you rest 85 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: two or three people. That means five or six cops 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: have left the scene. You can't do that. You might 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: recall a few days ago Big Powell took place with 88 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Dominic Jase, who is the new US attorney's been there 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: about a year. There was Charmaine McGuffey, there was Chief Henny, 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: there was the ATF, the FBI Attorney General Dave Yost 91 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: was there. 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: It was a big powwow. 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: The one missing element was so called community leaders and 94 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the other thing missing was the court system. This morning, 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: thank god, Brad Greenberg. Judge Greenberg is on the bench 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: in roommate setting bonds. He's going to set high bonds 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: on these misdemeanors. But at the end of the day, 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: maybe in five six years from now, city council will 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: pay the rioters eight point two million dollars to go 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: away and get paid money. There's a sense on the 101 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: street that there's there's no come up and so that 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: there's no resolution, there's no punishment, there's no penalty. You 103 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: simply are free to go. And that's the idea, and 104 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: there's a sense there's a sense of that. 105 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was talking to a long time Cincinnati 106 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: police officer this morning saying to me that there were 107 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: way too many kids down there. Metro was doing free ride, 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: so you have kids just coming in, you know, from 109 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: other parts of the city. And he said, in my 110 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: twenty years, I've never seen anything like it on opening day. 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: On opening day, he's never seen anything like it where 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: we they could not get a handle of how many 113 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: young people were down there. And then of course it 114 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: just turns disruptive. One person fights with another person, and 115 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: then it turns into a group of people fighting with 116 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: each other, and it's you know, it started at the banks, 117 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: which is think about that earlier in the day. You 118 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: have families down there with kids, and after the game, 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: you can't feel like you can stay along the banks 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: and in small park without being afraid that fights are 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: going to be breaking out, not just one guy who's 122 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: got too much to drink, but groups of people fighting. 123 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: And then to the point where bars have to shut down. 124 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: Then it moves to Fountain Square, then it's Washington Park. 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, there were so many different calls coming 126 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: out we could hardly keep up responding. 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Overwhelmed, overwhelmed, and maybe you know, Tracy Schwegman and I 128 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: have a call into her. She's a nice lady, she's 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: well intended. I know her, and she simply said it 130 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: was going to be a great day. The security system 131 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: is kind of relaxed a little bit. We have free 132 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: bus rides downtown, there's no curfew, come and go as 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: you want. And that didn't work, did it. 134 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: And it's a shame because obviously you want people, whether 135 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: you can afford a ticket or not, to be able 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: to come to our city and celebrate such a great tradition. 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: I think for the majority of the people who were 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: down there early, there was not a problem. You're enjoying 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: the parade, you're going to the game. But then so 140 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: many people this is why we've talked about it before. 141 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: Will he sadly, why so many people in suburbia say, 142 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: I go down, I go to a game, I get out. 143 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: I just had a good friend of mine who was 144 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: messaging me this morning. He's a he was a county 145 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: prosecutor now he's an attorney, and he was saying, Yep, 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: this is why we go down, we go to the game, 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: we get out, And you shouldn't have that feeling about 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: your city. 149 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: And imagine I talked to officials in northern Kentucky, Rob 150 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Sanders and others. 151 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: They shut down the Robling Bridge. It was closed. 152 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: They said, we're not going to allow this to come 153 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: to northern Kentucky. And so when you have bridges public 154 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: thoroughfares in northern Kentucky saying we're not putting up with 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: this here. 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: That's how bad it is. 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: The Robling Bridge was closed as Cincinnati police cleared crowds 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: out of the banks, which you couldn't clear clear to 159 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: where where do you go? And a photo I have 160 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: it here shows twenty Covington police cruisers sent to the 161 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: northern Kentucky side of the bridge to block it, and 162 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: it's amazing people were not killed without Riot A's conditions. 163 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: It reminded me almost the civil rights riots that took 164 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: place in the nineteen sixties and seventies. But when Covington says, 165 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: we got to shut down the suspension bridge because of 166 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: the behavior of maybe five hundred youths, five hundred kids. 167 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: And this morning, as I understand. 168 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: It, there's only one or two cases in juvenile court, 169 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and there's about ten to twelve cases in municipal court 170 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: because the police don't have the wherewithal to arrest anybody 171 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: because they can't leave the scene. And secondly, there's too 172 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: many to arrest, so you arrest nobody. Where are the 173 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: felony charges for inducing panic, the aggravated rioting, there's the 174 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: felony charges could be filed instead of these misdemeanors that 175 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: go nowhere. And this is such a black eye for 176 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: our city which does so many things, that's right. I 177 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: spoke to two business owners this morning who didn't want 178 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: to come on the air and say they were ready 179 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: for a big day, and by seven eight o'clock at night, 180 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: the place ordered their businesses shut down. 181 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if they can even do that. 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can you order a business 183 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: shut down and shut down the bridges. 184 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: Well, I was talking to a business owner along the 185 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: banks too, but I think they they they don't want that. 186 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: Of course, they don't want to have to shut down 187 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: their business and lose money, but they also don't want 188 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: that kind of activity ruining their business for the future, 189 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: or having to manage people fighting in their their bars 190 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: and restaurants or right outside of them. I mean, it 191 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: really is so shameful. And you know, Willie, it's just 192 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: it's just like what we saw though, unfortunately, and you 193 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: were talking about the arrest being made. I mean in 194 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 3: some regards you think, well, why bother? Why should these 195 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: officers bother to arrest people? Because it's just like we've 196 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 3: seen with so many of the protests that have broken 197 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: up that are not peaceful right where people are, you know, 198 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: damaging property and being destructive and set up. Not only 199 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: would the charges drop, but they got a payday. 200 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: From it eight point two million. I have a statement 201 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: here from the roommate duty judge. As you know, there's 202 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: fourteen municipal court judges and once a week they're assigned 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: every fourteen weeks to Room A and Judge Greenberg said, quote, 204 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Opening Day in Cincinnati is special. Our traditions and history 205 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: are unique. Violence and disorder will not be tolerated here. 206 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: Chaos at a public event is dangerous and can spread 207 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: like wildfire. So I'm going to listen to bond arguments 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: today as always, but this court is going to set 209 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: high bonds in these cases to prevent recurrence and restore 210 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: law and order. That's a great comment, and Brad Greenberg's 211 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: a good judge, But guess what do you anticipate that 212 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: if you arrest ten to twelve people and set a bond. 213 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Most are out anyway. Is going to stop the next occurrence? 214 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 4: The answer is no, no, padly, And I would think 215 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: most anyone who was down there for all the right 216 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: reasons yesterday to just whether they had a set or not, 217 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: wanted to just come to the city. 218 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: They had a day off where they wanted to come 219 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: hanging out and watch the game, even in a local restaurant. 220 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: I think most everybody would be disgusted by what unfolded 221 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: after seven o'clock last night. 222 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: What stops it in the future. What's going to happen 223 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: in the future. We got other big events happening. I'm 224 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: thinking about this weekend. You have Pittsburgh Pirates going to 225 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: come in town March thirty ath April first, you have 226 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: all these other things happening. You got Kids Day. You 227 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: know the Reds do a great job. On Saturday, March 228 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, game time is four to ten. It's Kids 229 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Opening Block Block Party starts at eleven am with a 230 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: mascot parade, Family Discount Day, and the Reds bend over 231 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: backwards to try to help the city recover from so 232 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: many black eyes of late. And now you get ready 233 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: for kids Opening Day tomorrow. I wonder how many parents 234 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: are going to feel good about going to a four 235 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: to ten game on Saturday, because what's going to happen 236 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: at seven, eight, nine o'clock at night. 237 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, well, And I think, you know, here 238 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: you have Metro truly trying to do a nice thing, 239 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: trying to you know, give free rides so that families 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: can come down who maybe otherwise could not afford it, 241 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: and then this happened. So then it's like, okay, well 242 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: do you not offer free bus service on those big days? 243 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is, but I think 244 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: all of us can agree that you can't have like that, 245 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: getting that out of control and causing those kind of 246 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: problems because the average person is saying, okay, well, then 247 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: Cincinnati is not safe, right, and sadly, just that a 248 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: couple of hundreds ruin it for everybody. 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: Right, And we're talking about two to four hundred kids 250 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: who should not have been the Number one, the free 251 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Metro rides have got to stop. And number two, there's 252 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: got to be a curfew. And I think Tracy Schwegman 253 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: and others did not want to have a curfew because 254 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to be a party. She made some comments 255 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: that you know, we don't need that, but I think 256 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: we do. But if you need a curfew, that means 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 1: there's large number of business owners downtown that don't have business. 258 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: But then you don't want the business of the three 259 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: to four hundred they are college mayhem. And this is 260 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: three to four hundred out of one hundred thousand people. 261 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: We're talking one half of one percent that are causing 262 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: the difficulty. 263 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: They're not sending money, No, they're not sending money, Let's 264 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: be honest. You know, Unfortunately, they're down there to hang out. 265 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: And look, we've seen it at different malls ken Wood 266 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: Townsener had to, you know, create a you know, you 267 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: have to bring a parent with you to have a 268 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: teenager walking around over the holidays, and they've extended that 269 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: at different times because they had so many teenagers getting 270 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: out of control. 271 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: And how about what's happening at the University of Cincinnati 272 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: campus on a regular basis, it is not safe there 273 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: quite often. You and I discussed this that you know, 274 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: the president doesn't give many interviews about the lack of 275 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: public safety, ain't and around the UC campus. 276 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that's very safe either. 277 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 5: Do you. 278 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, you and I have talked about this before. 279 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: I have a son who's going to be graduating Dismay, 280 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: and I just want them out of there because I 281 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: worry about I mean, I can't time any times I 282 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: get an alert on my phone for gunshots, you know, 283 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: stay at your safe yeah, and look, I think yes. 284 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: And they always kind of get away with the fact 285 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: that they'll say, well, it didn't happen on campus. Well, 286 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: everything at you see, and most city schools is off campus. 287 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: The housing's off campus, the foods off campus, the bars 288 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: are off campus, and you know, you get that feeling 289 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: that late at night you get people who come in 290 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: from again, from around the city and beyond and create problems. 291 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: It's not the UC students usually it's the people around 292 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: who come in to rob them, you know, I mean, 293 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: it really is. It is unfortunate. It'll be interesting to 294 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: see what happens with this. I mean, do we extend 295 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: and enforce the curfew? I think you know, sadly, Chief 296 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: Henny is now inheriting the same problems that Teresa seed 297 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: You was dealing with. 298 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: So she got fired for this. She was fired two 299 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: weeks before the election. Because of the incident Shaquille Ferguson 300 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: out in front of the City bird right, that was 301 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: the straw that broke her back and she was fired. 302 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And since then Chief Adam Henny, who by the way, 303 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: is a good man, but nonetheless he doesn't control this. 304 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: You have a sixty percent increase in shooting since Henny 305 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: was there. And if that's the standard to fire people 306 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: like the chief of police who holding them accountable for 307 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: criminal activity, any should have been fired too. Then if 308 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: that's the Thiji standard, and what's happening with her, I 309 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: have no idea. We got to run, but we can 310 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: talk about it. But it's going to be up to 311 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: the criminal justice system and parents to get control of 312 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: the situation before there's more mayhem. And Sria Palolo will 313 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: be watching tonight. Give my best all the folks at 314 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: five and thanks for coming on The Bill Cunningham Show, 315 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. But something's got to happen. 316 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: Different action need action, all right, sure, thank you very much. 317 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Let's continue with more your reaction coming up, plus more. 318 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: We're going to have newsmakers on all afternoon. That's your 319 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: home of the Reds and the city is not safe. 320 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: U see is not safe. Shopping centers and malls are 321 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: not safe. Metro is not safe. Where is it safe? 322 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: Maybe in Covington. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW Punningham, 323 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Great America next morning in the rune, which is where 324 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: you go for a bond set. There some high bond 325 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: set in the municipal court today for those involved in 326 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: the riots that took place last night. And the judge 327 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: on the case says violence after Opening Day won't be tolerated, 328 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: cites the need for high bonds. You know, one of 329 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: the reasons you said bonds in Ohio ought to be 330 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: public safety. I know that's kind of a morphous concept. 331 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: What is public safety? 332 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: Jonah? 333 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: You and I now is Judge Brad Greenberger who's actually 334 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: in court this morning. He was the judge setting many 335 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: of these bonds. And Judge Brad Greenberg, welcome again to 336 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, can you 337 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: you have a statement that you issued about Opening Day 338 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati a special our traditions and history are unique. 339 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Violence and disorder will not be tolerated. These are your words, 340 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: which are quite quite good. Chaos at a public event 341 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: is dangerous and get spread like wildfire. I'm going to 342 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: listen to bond arguments, but court in this case, it's 343 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: going to be setting high bonds to prevent recurrence and 344 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: restore law and order. And Brad Greenberg, welcome again. So 345 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: tell me what happened this morning in front of you 346 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: in Roume and Municipal Court. 347 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: Bill. 348 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: That's right. 349 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 6: We had six cases from the chaos that occurred yesterday 350 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 6: at opening day. So six adults were in front of 351 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 6: me with cases ranging from disorderly conduct all the way 352 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 6: up to felonious assault on a police officer. And I 353 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 6: set high secured bonds on those cases. 354 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: Why well, as I said, I feel. 355 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 6: That this is dangerous. When you are acting up and 356 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 6: causing violence at a large public event, it's very dangerous 357 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 6: to the people around it. There are parents that bring 358 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 6: their kids to the parade and to the game, and 359 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 6: we judges can not allow this to happen in our city. 360 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: One of the requirements you have in a constitutional amendment 361 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: was passed about two years ago because there was a 362 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: ruling out of the High Supreme Court under a different 363 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: philosophy that judges need not consider public safety when setting bonds. 364 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: And you do this for a living and including all 365 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the trials that you do. But the people of Ohio 366 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: said about seventy percent of us or more said, you 367 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: know what, judges ought to consider public safety? Often may 368 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: I say that does not happen. And you're one of 369 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I think fourteen judges in Amity County Municipal Court, and 370 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: you would loathe the idea of criticizing fellow judges. 371 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: Judges generally don't do that. 372 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: But do you understand there's a perception, especially in certain 373 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: parts of our community, that judges will not set bonds 374 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: commensurate with the crime because it's not fair to lock 375 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: somebody up on an offense that they're not being convicted of. 376 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: So how do you weigh the idea that many of 377 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: your fellow judges don't have an idea of setting high bonds. 378 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: It's like unfair against the requirement under the Constitution that 379 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: you take public safety. You know what I'm trying to. 380 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 6: Say, I do, And I'm not going to criticize any 381 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 6: of my fellow judges. They have to answer to the 382 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 6: public just as I do. But I have always considered 383 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 6: public safety is very important when setting a bond. That's 384 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 6: my job is to consider the defendant in front of me, 385 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 6: what he is accused of doing, what his record looks like, 386 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 6: and what can happen if he's let out a jail. 387 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 6: And I think it's important that judges consider that first 388 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 6: and foremost. 389 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: And then next week there'll be a different judge in 390 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: room A correct. You serve one week correct. So maybe 391 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: the criminal element kind of drew the short straw by 392 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: drawing you. 393 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: Brad Greenberg is. 394 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: A judge setting bond instead of a different judge of 395 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Monday on Tuesday. So how do you awigh the idea 396 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: that the court should have a similar policy across all 397 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: the fourteen judges. But there are some judges that don't 398 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: think a high bond. We have a judge who set 399 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: a low bond on someone who shot someone at Riverfront Live. 400 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: I don't imagine you would have set a low bond 401 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: to get them out with an ankle monitor. 402 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: I tend to think you wouldn't have done that. 403 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: So how is it fair if I'm gonna use that 404 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: term for some criminal defenders to appear in front of you, 405 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: as supposed in front of some other judge, how's that fair? 406 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 7: Well? 407 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 6: I think the people that are in front of me 408 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: receive fair bonds. And if someone is committing a shooting 409 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 6: and gets a low bond, I think they've been treated 410 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 6: I think the community has been treated unfairly. So I 411 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 6: can only explain what I do, and I hope that 412 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: I'm fair to everybody that comes in front of me, 413 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: and I can't Again, I can't answer for other judges, 414 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 6: and I'm not going to criticize other judges. I'm only 415 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: going to do what I do and what I think 416 00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 6: is right. 417 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: One of the persons in front of you, with State 418 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: of Ohio versus Cha Kwon Walker, is accused of attacking 419 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: a police officer in the back. His bond was set 420 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: at one hundred and forty thousand dollars on assault, resisting arrest, 421 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: and obstructing being, obstructing justice and disorderly? Was that? What 422 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: were those all misdemeanor charges? Can you recall that case? 423 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 6: I do the assault on the police officer is a 424 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: felony charge, and so that was the highest bond. That 425 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: was one hundred thousand secured, which means they cannot post 426 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 6: that at ten percent. 427 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: How did the prosecutor's office tell you the condition of 428 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: the police officer? 429 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 6: Not on that case, But there was another case where 430 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 6: it was even more serious where there was a polonious 431 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 6: assault on a police officer where two officers were injured. 432 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 6: There was more detail on that case, and it talked 433 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 6: about two officers suffered deep scratches. One officer had scratches 434 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 6: on his face and the other one had scratches on 435 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: the arm. So that was an even more serious case 436 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 6: and that person received an even higher bond because it 437 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: was a felony of the first degree. 438 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: And as far as the other ones were, you surprised 439 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: you only had like I think five or six cases 440 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: instead of hundreds of cases because the video is alarming. 441 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: The video looked like mob mentality, and you only had 442 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: a few cases, and where we're all the other arrest 443 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. 444 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 6: I was surprised. I thought there might be more cases. 445 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 6: But my hunch is that there's a number of juvenile 446 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 6: arrests and they'll end up in juvenile court. I only 447 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 6: handle the adult cases, and so. 448 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: There well, according to media accounts, there was one case 449 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: in juvenile court this morning, but maybe there were many others. 450 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: But you know, a police officer in those circumstances is 451 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: between a rock and a hard place, because if you 452 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: arrest somebody. That means two or three cops are off 453 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: the scene. They put them in a car, drive them 454 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty if you're a juvenile, or to the 455 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: jail if you're an adult. And then the police are told, well, 456 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: be careful who you arrest because we need you here. 457 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: We don't need you pulling somebody out and doing the 458 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: paperwork for an hour or two. And that's going to 459 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: hold down the number of people arrested. And you're you're 460 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: a great, a greater Cincinnatian. Of note, you've been around 461 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: a long time, been a judge about twenty years or so. 462 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: Have you noticed a different mentality in the criminal element 463 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: from the cases in front of you that it's more 464 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: acceptable to engage in criminal activity. Secondly, there's more crime 465 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: taking place. Third, the less less people being arrested, and 466 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: fourth is less punishment. Just step outside judicial road for 467 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: a moment and talk about what you've observed over the 468 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: past twenty years and the change of law enforcement. 469 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: Bill. 470 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I've noticed all four of those things. In the 471 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 6: last twenty years. We see more and more crime, the 472 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 6: criminals become emboldened and seem to have less respect for 473 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 6: the police and the justice system. Running from police seems 474 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 6: to be very common these days. Resisting arrest seems to 475 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 6: be very common these days. It's unfortunate, but it's been 476 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 6: trending in the wrong direction for some time. 477 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: Now. 478 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Are you on the bench tomorrow too? Saturday morning? 479 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 6: No, I was last Saturday, not this Saturday. 480 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: So a new judge takes over on Monday and we'll 481 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: see what happens. But Judge Brad Greenberg, I think you 482 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: live in the northeast to Hambleton County. Thanks for coming 483 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show. And it's good to have 484 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: a judge actually speaking on this and it's good to 485 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: have you on the bench this morning. You needed to 486 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: be on the bench today setting bonds, you know what 487 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, instead of some other judge that would simply 488 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: let them go. So Judge Brad Greenberg, thank you very 489 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Brad, thank 490 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: you very much. 491 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: Thank you, Bill, God bless you. 492 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: Let's continue with more. 493 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: One thing Judge Crush told me years ago, and I 494 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: had a lot of cases in front of Judge Crushing 495 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: other judges, and I would say to Judge Crush, Judge, 496 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: how's it fair that my criminal defendant appears in front 497 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: of you and goes to prison, and my same criminal 498 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: defendant might appear in front of another judge and get probation. 499 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: How's that fair? 500 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: When you commit the same offense and in front of 501 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: the crusher, you get crushed, and in front of some 502 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: liberal judge like maybe a Gilbert Bettman, you get free. 503 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: And he looked at me and say, well, part of 504 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: the uncertainty of committing criminal acts is the fact you 505 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: might appear in front of me. And that's the uncertainty. 506 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: And so with a judge, a good judge like Brad Greenberg, 507 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: part of the uncertainty of committing crime is you might 508 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: appear in front of him instead in front of a 509 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: judge who will give you an ankle monitor and go 510 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: and send no more. That's part of the uncertainty of 511 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: criminal justice. Let's continue, Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLWYD. 512 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: Let's continue now. Whenever stop, we simply continue. Rents baseball 513 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: off today back out of tomorrow for Red's Family Day starting. 514 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I think the first pitch tomorrow Saturday is four to ten. 515 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: See what happens tomorrow night. I wouldn't know that. Once again, 516 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: have to have pure of all, the so called strong 517 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Cincinnati has gone again. You 518 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: might recall last July during the riots resulting from the 519 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: music festival that gathered so many injuries, including Holly and 520 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: many others involving large numbers of individuals gathering on Sixth Street, 521 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: that he was gone then for the music festival. According 522 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: to the Vice Mayor, lemon Kearney, he's gone. Quote, he's 523 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: off this week, but he's in touch. I think people 524 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: have to realize, no matter where the mayor is, even 525 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: if he takes time off, he's always in touch. It's 526 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: good to have a mayor in touch. From afar, it'd 527 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: be better off if the mayor, with scheduled time off 528 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: might say, you know what, in a sense, the chief 529 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: law enforcement officer in the city, and I'm a strong 530 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: mayor supposedly, and i control the police department, and I 531 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: control the city manager, and I control things happening in 532 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: the city, it might begin to look at your schedule 533 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, in July last year, what's happening this 534 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: this week July twenty sixth, Well, we got a half 535 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: million people at the music festival. I might want to 536 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: schedule my vacation. 537 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: The next week, you might look at the schedule and say, well, 538 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: let's see now, Thursday, March twenty sixth, Well, that's Red's 539 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: opening day. We're going to invite a half million people 540 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: to downtown Cincinnati. It might be good for me to 541 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: be here so I can watch what's going on. This 542 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: mayor has a touch that says vacant, absent, not involved, 543 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: on vacation, relaxing. And so once again the mayor F. TB. 544 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: Pireval is gone, and many wish you would politically be 545 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: gone for a long time. I would also note that 546 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: Scotty Johnson, who's really running council, he's the guy in 547 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: charge of the police department indirectly through council. He spent 548 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty years as a cop, has made 549 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: some good comments about police. The police are overwhelmed, and 550 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: he points the finger toward the judges, the judges or 551 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: the problem. 552 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: You know what. 553 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: Scotty Johnson every now and then has a lucid moment, 554 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: and he's right that the cops, the men and women 555 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: in blue, are overwhelmed. They need about another two to 556 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: three hundred cops. No one wants to be a cop 557 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: because you're sued. You're beaten, you're diminished to demoralized. You 558 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: don't know what to do because things go wrong and 559 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: city council point their political guns at you and a heartbeat. 560 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: In fact, they will pay eight point two million dollars 561 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: to rioters and the George Floyd riot. In fact, many 562 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: of the so called protesters slash rioters. We're looking forward 563 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: to more strong police action. So maybe four or five 564 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: years from now, Alfonska, Hartstein, the other liberals ACLU could 565 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: sue the city and get millions and millions of dollars 566 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: more for police doing their job. 567 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: If you're a cop involved in the George Floyd riots 568 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: of the summer of the twenty twenty and you watched 569 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: how crime paid big time, you're demoralized. I've ent on 570 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: Ken Kobra a few times to talk about this that 571 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: younger cops think they're supposed to enforce the law. So 572 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: if they see somebody speeding, they pull them over, give 573 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: me your ID, give me your registration, proof of insurance 574 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: it's not available, and then they are told, don't arrest 575 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: that person for driving without a license without insurance, because 576 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: nothing's going to happen downtown. About seventy five percent of 577 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: the judges in Hamlety County now thinks social justice ruse 578 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: the rules today and as a consequence, won't point people 579 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: in jail and won't give a high bond. I see 580 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: it all the time. Unfortunately for the rioters yesterday Judge 581 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: Brad Greenberg was on the bench. By happenstance. 582 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: Today, each of the fourteen judges, and they're in rotation sequence, 583 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: each get a week now tomorrow, a liberal Democrat starts 584 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: as anyone's arrested today by the police will be on 585 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: the streets. All right, let's continue with more what timing. 586 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: The mayor's gone for the music festival, and the mayor's 587 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: gone for opening day. 588 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: When in the hell is the mayor here? And if 589 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: he was here, he issued another press release saying this 590 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: is unacceptable. Who in the hell says is acceptable? It's unaccepted. Well, 591 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: thank god, mayor. It's unacceptable. It's unacceptable. Now let's continue. 592 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: Coming up next to Smitherman and Moore, line becomes available 593 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. This is unacceptable, 594 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, this radio seven hundred WULW No, Billy Cunningham, 595 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: the Great American and would continue to pick up the 596 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: pieces of what happened. 597 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: And in the opening day. 598 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Yesterday it was allegedly a cease fire that was declared 599 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: ahead of time, it didn't hold. And right now joining 600 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: you and I as the former city council member, vice 601 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: mayor and also president of the NAACP, Chris Smitherman, and 602 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: I would know Chris Smitherman. A few minutes ago, I 603 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: had on Judge Brad Greenberg who talked about the violence 604 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: after Opening Day will not be tolerated. There were numerous 605 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: police officers that were injured, flownius assaults on pos serious matter. 606 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: But from our discussions, from our discussions off the air, 607 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: you seem to solve this coming because of what's happened 608 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: in the past few weeks. 609 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Explain that to the American people. 610 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 5: Well, first, for you and i've been talking about this 611 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: really for a while, and we'll we've both been seeing 612 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 5: it coming. Where you see this anti cop attitude, reimagine 613 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 5: the police department. You know from our mayor and members 614 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 5: of council defund the police. This is all coming from 615 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: City Haulling. You and I know that the front line 616 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: to dealing with crime are cops, period. We know that 617 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 5: we're one hundred cops down, and we know that city 618 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 5: Hall seems to not have a plan with retention. Now 619 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: about opening day, First of all, beautiful weather, San Francisco weather. 620 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 5: Yesterday we were talking about rain. It didn't happen, right. 621 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 5: We know that some great wise person said free bus 622 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: service into downtown. Bust them in, bust them in. We 623 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 5: know that we were at we have spring break from 624 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 5: Cincinnati public schools. We know that's happen. We know we've 625 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: got a free streetcar rolling around, and we have a 626 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 5: council and a mayor that looked like they had no plan. 627 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: What was wild about this for me kind of backing 628 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: in is to listen to our Kentucky partner saying, I 629 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: commend our police for shutting down the bridge, meaning we 630 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 5: didn't want anybody coming from Cincinnati over to Kentucky. And 631 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: the Kentucky law enforcement are right now are applauding their 632 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 5: people for making sure that the mayhem that was happening 633 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 5: in the Dora and at the bank did not pour 634 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: over into Kentucky. Look, here's here's the crazy part about it, Willie. 635 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 5: You and I know that if a if a white 636 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 5: officer downtown had taken the life of an African American 637 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: youth yesterday. You know that the voices from the depths 638 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 5: of City Hall would be everywhere. You know that they 639 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 5: would be holding press conferences. You know that there would 640 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 5: be there would be rallies, there would be a demand 641 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 5: for justice, there would be they would be throwing our 642 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 5: officers under the bus. The problem here is that City 643 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 5: Hall doesn't have the culture to support cops. The other thing, 644 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 5: and I'll conclude and shut my mouth and turn it 645 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 5: back over to you, is that the Tom Lukins, the 646 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: Charlie Lukens, the John Cranley's right, the blue dog Democrats 647 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 5: within the party really are dead. You know, there was 648 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 5: a time where Republicans and Democrats and independence, the Charter 649 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 5: Rights we're talking about, you know, the Charter Committee, we 650 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 5: could all agree that safety was number one. We supported 651 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 5: our police right. We made sure that we knew where 652 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 5: our kids were, that Cincinnati public school boards were cooperating 653 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: with us, We knew what was happening right now, right 654 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 5: that doesn't happen. There's such an extreme part of the 655 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: Democratic Party really that this won't part right. They don't 656 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 5: want to do anything, and our judges are letting these 657 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: young people people out I'm talking about F three's we've got. 658 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 5: We've got drug people who are who have a gun, 659 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 5: who are let out with one day. I mean, you 660 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 5: got one day, you had a gun, you had drugs. 661 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: If you're back on the street the next day, just 662 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 5: like the person who shot nine people right inside of 663 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 5: an establishment fifty thousand dollars, if the adults in the 664 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: room where the federal government, the federal government says no, 665 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 5: we're not going to let you out. If the federal 666 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 5: government had not stepped in, nine people would have been shot, 667 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 5: one in critical condition, and the guy would have been 668 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: out of jail the next day. 669 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, Chris I talked to Northern Kentucky leaders the 670 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: last night. He said, we're not putting up with this 671 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: crap here. And there were there were twenty Covington police 672 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: cars who were dispatched along with Newport police officers on 673 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: the southern side of the bridge and said, you're not 674 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: coming here to do that crap. And we had Dominic 675 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: jirase I had on the US attorney three or four 676 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: days ago. He convened a big powwow at the big meeting, 677 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: and thank you God he did. He had US attorney 678 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: was there the sheriff Hamilton County. Chermaine McGuffey was there. 679 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: Adam Henny was their chief of police. You had the 680 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: ATF was there, the FBI was there, US Marshall Service 681 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: was there. I didn't see Iris Rollie, and I didn't 682 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: see chawise A. Scotti Johnson, and I didn't see so 683 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: called leaders in the black community such as Damon Lynch. 684 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: They were absent. 685 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: They were waiting for some events to take place to 686 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: open their mouths, so people were present. Also missing at 687 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: that table were the judges. 688 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: I had on. 689 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: Brad Greenberg about half an hour ago. He put out 690 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: a statement, which is very unusual for a judge to say, 691 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to put up with this in Hamlin County. However, 692 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow there's a duty judge on who's a very liberal 693 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: person that's going to set low bond. So if somebody 694 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: was arrested last night, they got one hundred and forty 695 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond. If they're arrested today based upon what 696 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: happened last night, they're going to get an orbon. And 697 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: of course, Brad Greenburg it's not going to go criticizing 698 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: fellow judges, but I will until the judges of hamlet 699 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: A County say, we don't have to live like this. 700 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: We're going to hold accountable individuals who make the city unlivable. 701 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: That thing was close to being a multi death, multi felony, right. 702 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: There were police officers injured. We have felonious assault on 703 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: police officer. Charges are pending. There's high bonds, brad set. 704 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: But the message is we have free bus rides, we 705 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: have free trolley rides. 706 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: Come on down. The weather's great. 707 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: And when I talk to anchors on local TV stations, 708 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: they tell me about five thirty six o'clock, everything changed. 709 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: And at that point the streets were overtaken by mobs 710 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: of youths four or five hundred, and they were so 711 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: overwhelmed they couldn't arrest sufficiently. If you're a cop arresting somebody, 712 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: four or five cops are leaving the scene that fell 713 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: out the paperwork, and the fellow officers are in trouble, 714 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: So to get arrested is almost impossible to get arrested, 715 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because the message is that 716 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: criminal activity have no consequences. 717 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 5: Look, there were fights on Fountain Square, there were fights 718 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 5: in Washington Park. We had complete chaos at the banks 719 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 5: yesterday in our opening day. But I have to ask 720 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 5: the question, where was Mayor pure Ball? Right? Is even 721 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 5: in town? I mean, we do have a strong mayor 722 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 5: in the city. It says that we do have nine 723 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 5: members of council that are supposed to be our leaders. 724 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 5: Where are they? That's my frustration, meaning they're sending out 725 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 5: press comp press, religion. We got that, but can anybody 726 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 5: tell me have they seen Mayor pure Ball today? Because 727 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 5: I don't even know if the guy is in town. 728 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 5: Just like we had the festival, the music festival, he 729 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 5: was out of town. He is very possible that this 730 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: mayor on one of the most important holidays that Cincinnati has, 731 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 5: which is Opening Day, that he wasn't even in town 732 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 5: and in the region. And I just want to let's 733 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 5: share with everybody. Listen, you got to have an attentative mayor. 734 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 5: We're moving into the summer. We're already seeing in cold 735 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 5: weather what we saw in Price Hill, meaning we remember 736 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 5: we had a team takeover in less a less than 737 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 5: a week ago. In Price Hill, we're young, people were 738 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 5: out of control. We had lots of police officers who 739 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 5: were dispatched. They could have been injured. We had kids 740 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 5: jumping on cars up there. We can see as we 741 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 5: march willing into the summer that things aren't right. That's 742 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 5: number one. I want to say number two. Officers were 743 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 5: clearly disrespected. I mean, you saw that line at the 744 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 5: banks where the young people just ran through them. I 745 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 5: remember the days, buddy, when an officer walked up to 746 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 5: you and said, sir, I'd like to have a conversation, 747 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 5: young man. You stop, you listen, you responded. You had 748 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 5: people yesterday with no regard for our law enforcement at all. 749 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 5: All of them have their cameras out, they're all videoing. 750 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 5: They're fighting each other, they're grabbing hair, they're kicking people 751 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 5: in the head. This was all during opening day when 752 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 5: you got one hundred thousand guests. I'm gonna bet that 753 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 5: eighty to ninety thousand of those people do not live 754 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 5: in the city of six stay. Many they're traveling in 755 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 5: as our guests, and they were treated like they that. 756 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 5: There were parts of downtown that were shut down. People 757 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 5: were shut down in bars. You cannot leave here. Everybody 758 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 5: must stay until we career. What's going on? Do you 759 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: think those guests are gonna come back, will be cut here? 760 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: Well, you bring up Price Sale Chili. One of my 761 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: favorite places on Earth is Price Sale Chili. I know 762 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: you have great feeling for that place, Alex trent to feel. 763 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: Who does. It's a West Side tradition. And about a 764 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: week or ten days ago there were maybe fifty to 765 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: one hundred youths jumping on top of cars, running in 766 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: and out of businesses and the place again were overwhelmed. 767 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: They got little or no media coverage at all because 768 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: it happens all the time. When I speak to cops 769 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: in uniform, they tell me we need about twice as 770 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: many cops as we have right now. The Sheriff's department 771 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: was told to report downtown immediately. Highway Patrol had like 772 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: three units, and I brought up on my ex account 773 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: that we need something such as the National Guard to 774 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: be called in because obviously the city cops are demoralized, 775 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: they're angry, they don't know where to turn. They get 776 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: no support from city council. If you act up and 777 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: commit riotous misbehaviors. Five years later, Alfonsko Hartstein will sue 778 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: the city and the city's going to pay eight point 779 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: two million dollars to rioters. And they knew that if 780 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: we arrest somebody in about another five years, we're gonna 781 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: end up paying another group eight million dollars. They don't 782 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: want to arrest the rioters because crime pays in the city. 783 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: There used to be a cease fire for opening day. 784 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: There's no more ceasefires anywhere, including up Price Heal Chili. 785 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: For God's sake, Now you got me fired up. We 786 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: need something to happen in this town now. 787 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 5: Now let me also say, let's throw Jim and Jacks 788 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 5: down on fifty is a great place. Also along with 789 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 5: Price these are These are west side locations. And by 790 00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 5: the way, the worst as as things got bad, worse 791 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 5: whatever in the downtown, guess where the guests left. They 792 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 5: came and went to Price phial Chilli, They went to 793 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 5: Jim and Deck. They were on the run because they 794 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 5: could not handle what was happening in downtown. Do you 795 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 5: remember the survey that just came out. Yes, I said 796 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 5: this traffic was down, was down and downtown and if you 797 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 5: remember what our city leader said, they said it was 798 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 5: just the perception. This is just in the last week. Look, 799 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 5: I just want to say to all nine members of council, 800 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 5: what happened yesterday is going to make national news. Our 801 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 5: leaders are I'm talking about our leaders in the region 802 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 5: right and their friends and their guests and their family 803 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 5: members who are watching this are less likely the co 804 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 5: downtown today than yesterday because they're concerned that they're not 805 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 5: going to be safe. I think that's a logical conclusion. 806 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 5: The survey that came out that the Inquirer posted is accurate. 807 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 5: And until city hall gets serious about law and order, 808 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 5: Willie Cunningham as until they say I'm going to have 809 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 5: a zero tolerance for you where parents don't know where 810 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 5: they are and what they're doing, and they support our cops, who, 811 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 5: by the way, might have to make a split second 812 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 5: decision and do the most unfortunate thing in the world 813 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 5: is take a life. They know that they do not 814 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 5: have a mayor, and they know that they do not 815 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 5: have nine members of council that will back them up, Willy. 816 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 5: And that is the problem, the reason we can't retain 817 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 5: cops and the reason we can't recruit cops in this town. 818 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 5: And here's my last point. We've got to reach out 819 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 5: to Governor Mike Dwyan. We've got to have this conversation 820 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 5: at the state level because it is clearly time to 821 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 5: bring in the National Guards into the city of Cincinnati, 822 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 5: if this mayor, and if this council, and if this 823 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 5: city manager refuse to keep us safe. 824 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: Lastly, I can't imagine the police officers to having kids 825 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: running at them. Video on my ex account jumping on 826 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: top of a cop. Imagine the mentality of three or 827 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: four in uniform armed police officers standing there and individuals 828 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: are running at them and jumping on top of them 829 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: and rolling around the streets. That's attempt at murder basically, 830 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: because that cops gun is equally access to these individuals, 831 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: and there were guns, there were gun sees. Cops are injured, 832 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: and the city manager says it's unacceptable, and the stakeholders, 833 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: the stakeholders, the stakeholders. I'm tired of this social justice crap. 834 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 1: We need strong law enforcement. We need twice as many cops. 835 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: We need the National Guard. God knows we need help. 836 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: Chris Smithin, we got to go. Love your perspective and 837 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: I want you back on council. I want you back 838 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: in the vice mayor and mayor's position. I went the 839 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: old Democratic Party back in charge, and I don't think 840 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. And by the way, where's your 841 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: iris rolling? 842 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 2: Now? Where's your iris rolling? 843 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 5: Now? I believe I believe she has made a statement. 844 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 5: But here's what I will say. But they Ramaswami is 845 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 5: running for governor and that is why I'm supporting him. 846 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 5: We've got to have adults at the state level. And 847 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 5: it's why I am pronouncing to our entire city and 848 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 5: into our entire region. I'm doing this purposely. I want 849 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 5: everybody to understand that we are going to have to 850 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 5: consider bringing in the National Guard where we have a 851 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 5: mayor and a city council that continue to refuse to 852 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 5: keep us saying, how do we have a national holiday 853 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 5: like we did on Opening Day and got that kind 854 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 5: of mayhem in downtown. If we had our guard, if 855 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 5: we had the national power downtown, that would never have happened. 856 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Chris, thank you, thank you. 857 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 5: Well. 858 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: We have social justice warriors on city council that are 859 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: not just soft on crime, they encourage it. And we 860 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: have a judicial system here that will not lock up criminals. 861 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: God blessed Judge Brad Greenberg. Let's continue with more. Bill 862 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 1: Cunningham with you every day, You're home of the Reds. 863 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred W wantum, I think it's time 864 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: that we blow something up. 865 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 6: Oh hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting. 866 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: I think it's time that we blow something up. That's Charlie. 867 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: We're doing it in Iran. We're doing it in Iran, Iraq, Syria, everywhere. 868 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 2: But crazy, Well, I guess what the mayor put? Where's 869 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: the where's the mayor getting another custom haircut today? He's 870 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: in Canada, just as horrified about it as everybody else. Chas. 871 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 2: You know what, this is a perfect time for him 872 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: to move in. Now overnight, Now clean out city hall. 873 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 2: Tell her to get out, Chas. This is a supreme 874 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 2: Allied commander. I love everybody of since the city of Cincinnati, 875 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: Luke loves everybody. Because the mayor's not here? Where's the 876 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: city manager? Was she watching on TV last night? She's 877 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 2: in her home in North College Hill. Yeah, but the 878 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: mayor picks time to leave. At July twenty six, round 879 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: on Yeah, Round one was at Washington Park, getting I'm 880 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: looking on and I'm sitting there and I'm getting on 881 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 2: my phone as gigantic fight at Washington Park. Then it 882 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: went to Fountain Square and I went home and all 883 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I wake up this morning and all, 884 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: you know what's breaking leaves hare and I everywhere at 885 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 2: breaking out at seven or eight o'clock downtown segment. We 886 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 2: need leadership now. 887 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: But the mayor was gone in July for the musing festivals. 888 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: I guess his son wanted to see mountains? 889 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: Did he issue a statement? Issue a statement? I got outraged? 890 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 2: I got this statement here? Is it something of outrage 891 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 2: that we need to get the guns off the street 892 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 2: and this and that? Thank you? The mayor said this 893 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 2: is unacceptable segment. It is unacceptable. Okay, well I tell 894 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. Him not being the mayor. Bingos ignorance is 895 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: no defense. Thank you, Jazz. I want to I want 896 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: to relate more of it. Let's let's see more of 897 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 2: the statement. Thank you, Thank you, mayor. Where's the mayor 898 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: looking at the mountains somewhere? Who's gonna get the blame 899 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: for that? You know who's gonna get the blame? Trump? 900 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: Don't you know? Well him too? Trump and uh Chief 901 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: Chief Thiji Fiji Fiji. You wait and see what happened. 902 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: She was fired because there's too much crime. Let's have 903 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 2: another free ride on the met. 904 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 6: What you wish for? 905 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: You chances calling him he's unbelievable. This guy, this guy 906 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: once time, I could not be more excited. Well he 907 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: gets excited. All I know is I'd get excited too, 908 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: But I don't satisfy myself by running down our city. 909 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 2: Is in him? 910 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: Ram Chief Henny going to get the blame for this? Well, no, 911 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: he was picked by the mayor, So that's not oka. 912 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: You have always made it sound like there's some there's 913 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 2: some payoffs here. There was last night. No, there was. 914 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: The payoff is what if the Reds would have won? 915 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 2: What I sore is a grand salamie like in the 916 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: seventh Orde would have no building in downtown would have 917 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: would it would have been? It would have burned the town? 918 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 2: Burn it down, baby, burn it down? How about comington? 919 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 2: I talked to a Bob Sanderson, No way you're getting 920 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: across the bridge. Guess what. They're not coming here, thank you? 921 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: And they head the police cars lined up like in 922 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: a V for victory. And I have a comment here 923 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: from of course Iris Rowlie boy, who says the police 924 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: have got to wrap their arms around our babies. 925 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 7: Let's not wait for hell to freeze over here. 926 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: Hey, Donaldly, God's gonna good good comment there. Chans will 927 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: he the Stuo reporters of Proud Service, every local tame 928 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: Star heating and air conditioning dealers. Tamestar quality you could 929 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 2: feel in northern Kentucky. Call any weather heating in air 930 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: at eight five, nine, seven, eight one forty eight twenty 931 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: two or Willie. We also want to thank a Lear's 932 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 2: Prime Market for their delicious lent and fish sandwiches, hands 933 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 2: down the top eer battered hannock fish sandwich in Cincinnata, 934 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: available now through Lent. Gonna end pretty soon, right. I 935 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 2: had some fish from there. It's really good. Huge portion 936 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 2: of fish served on marble rye tartar sauce on the side, 937 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 2: on the huge helping of string fries. Very good. Delicious 938 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 2: Learsprime dot com. Lears Prime always a cut above. And 939 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: I want to thank Aaron Cahill. Aaron Cahill, he runs 940 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 2: all the parking in Cincinnati. Yeah, this guy says that 941 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 2: could not have been better until about four pm. Something 942 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: happened about four to five with the mob and the 943 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: crowd changed directions and burned down the town. Was the 944 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: motto burn the town down. Well, Willie, we also want 945 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: to thank Jim Mooring and everyone in the Holy Grail 946 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 2: for their service yesterday and all the fans that we had, 947 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 2: because until four or five, nobody knew who Scott Sloan was. Who. Yeah, 948 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, or mo or anybody. But when 949 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 2: you when you walked in the room, Moses, I mean, 950 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: it was like it was like Tod Heston and the 951 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: ten come man that's parting the red seat. 952 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: The men were issuing toast and women were undressing. That's 953 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: all I can tell you. 954 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 2: That's true. And then of course the then the Hall 955 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: of Famer cats in there. Who Marty Brennan, he didn't like. 956 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 2: He didn't like my questions. I was asking questions. Well, 957 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 2: you had a question that lasted an hour and a half. 958 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 2: I wanted to cover all the bases. But then he 959 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: didn't answer the question. Red's with a day off to day, 960 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 2: Well he had Red's update. The series will continue tomorrow 961 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 2: on kids Opening Day, a lot of activities for the 962 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 2: kids by game. 963 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 1: How about no King's Rally tomorrow along with the Rioters, 964 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: Uh right, the old Riders and the new Riders. 965 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 2: The answer the action will be right here on seven hundred. 966 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 2: There'll be lots of action three ten tomorrow with the 967 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 2: RNL carriers inside I got is he done yet? 968 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 5: No comment? 969 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: Thank you? Okay? How about the uh Let's see Kyle 970 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 2: Schwarber's already hit a two run homer. That's one on 971 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 2: the season. 972 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 5: No comment. 973 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 2: How about the Dodger players they arrived at their lock 974 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 2: lockers in the LA last yesterday. Manager Dave Roberts had 975 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: a bottle of Traveler whiskey at each locker. Get him dropped, 976 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 2: proud sponsor of NASCAR Junior and they get liquored up. 977 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: But shoey Otani shows up. Well a little note, let's 978 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 2: three peete. Each player on the Los Angeles Dodgers team 979 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 2: got a four thousand dollars Sako watch from Otani? What 980 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 2: do you and I get? I got an opening nothing, 981 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 2: but I got I got a thousand dollars little Seko watch. Congratulations, 982 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: And I got a pin that says opening Day. 983 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: Phil Castelini gave me one. That was a great pin. 984 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: Is that real gold? Can I melt that down? American 985 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: Trading Company? Can I melt that down and get some 986 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: money for that? 987 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: Maybe about two two thousands of an ounce? How about 988 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 2: how about our market president giving us a four thousand 989 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: dollars watch wouldn't that be something? Sako four thousand dollars? 990 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 2: Watch Get him in here? You and I deserve one. 991 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 2: Get him in here. College basketball Willie NCAA tourney update 992 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 2: brought to you by a c R. Gunny Pools and 993 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 2: Spas call today swim this year. Of course, Purdue knocks 994 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: off your good friend Sean Miller and did not want 995 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 2: him to win. Is he gonna go to North Carolina? 996 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: I hope, I don't want to say where. I Sean 997 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: Miller is thoroughly disreputable as a man not of honor 998 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: because of what he did his savior. 999 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 2: And I will not forget Sean Miller. I will not 1000 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: forget Iowa top Nebraska, Illinois beat Houston by ten and 1001 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 2: in Arizona dumped coach col In Arkansas. Not a night, 1002 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: seven o'clock The Action on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The lineup. 1003 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 2: He explaining Saint John's versus Duke Rick Pattis. I've always 1004 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 2: liked Rick Patino. I'll say that my good friend Kenny 1005 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: Smith and Louisville loves Rick Patino. Alabama and Michigan. 1006 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: I'm going with Michigan and support of Tom weed Man Tennessee. 1007 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 2: The Iowa State. I'm taking the Cyclones, Michigan State and Yukon. 1008 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm taking Yukon because they're in the Big Eastman Xavier, okay, 1009 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 2: all right, former Xavier assistant Luke Murray got time off 1010 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: to the head basketball coach at Boston College, leaving the Huskies. 1011 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 2: Of course, says you know, Willie Murray was an assistant 1012 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 2: e Xavier and his dad in the stands from twenty 1013 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty eighteen. Bill Murray. Yeah, it's funny man, 1014 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 2: So he gets to go now, he gets to go 1015 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: to balls segment. It's unacceptable, okay, Mayor f tap Purre, 1016 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 2: Ball's unacceptable. But according to Irish Rollie, the police have 1017 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 2: got to put their arms around their babies segment. I 1018 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 2: don't know what about the Trumpster going to have his 1019 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 2: signature on money for the that's that's like a first 1020 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 2: at American history and then living living president with the all. 1021 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: Right, now, two two non US presidents on money is 1022 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 1: Hamilton and uh In Franklin. 1023 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: I like Franklin, I don't like Benchi. I don't see 1024 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 2: too many of them these days. But how about unacceptable segment? Unacceptable? 1025 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 2: And the mayor is on another vacation. Maybe you should 1026 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 2: schedule vacation, not during the music festival and not during 1027 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 2: the Reds opening day. Does that make sense? I would 1028 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: say something? Am I missing something? Where is he at? 1029 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 2: Where is the mayor vacationing? At? Us? 1030 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 5: Up? 1031 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 2: And says Catchewan looking at mountains? We can come here, 1032 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: look at seven of them? Don't we have seven seven 1033 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 2: hills somewhere. Although there's some dispute, what are the seven hills? 1034 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm just saying that Auburn, I don't 1035 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 2: know Mount Washington, don't know Bryce Hill, Rice Hill, there's 1036 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: there's four, not the hill cut in the hill, that's five. 1037 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 2: Mount lookout will look out at Zips Mount. Well, you 1038 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 2: know he needs a staycation, the mayor needs a staycation. 1039 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 2: Or some say it's good he's gone. There was action 1040 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 2: last night. I mean there were people like locked into bars. Right, Yeah, 1041 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 2: they could not because maybe maybe that's good. You can't believe, 1042 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: you've got to say that's not a bad gig. Not 1043 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: you can't leave Jim mooing. I'm gonna call it. I 1044 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 2: call it five or six business leaders. Not one is 1045 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: picking up my thank you, not one. They're probably still king. 1046 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 2: They're probably still count the money down there from yesterday, 1047 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 2: how much Budweiser, all of it bud light, nothing else 1048 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 2: was was was drunk, yet there's none left. I gotta 1049 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: call it. 1050 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: Tracy Schwegman, Sycamore Township trustee in charge of the bank security, right, 1051 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: Britney Ruby and Jim Moooring. 1052 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 2: I won't mention other big names called metro see. If 1053 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 2: they're going to run that deal to get a free ride, 1054 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 2: we'll bring the riders downtown for Oaks. I love it. 1055 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 2: Let's get it done. Unbelievable, Andy mack So get me 1056 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 2: out of the Stud's reporter. 1057 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,399 Speaker 1: By the way, Joe Dieter said long time ago, oh 1058 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: that this street car will get the tourists to feed 1059 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: the velociraptors much like in certain dinosaur movie. The street 1060 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: car will be created like Jurassic Park, right, and the 1061 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: tourists to get on and without public safety, the velociraptors 1062 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: and the t rexs will be eating the tourists. 1063 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 2: They do they still run that thing? Yes, they do, 1064 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: they do. And by the way, it's free. No one 1065 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: will pay, I guess, so it's about time. Unbelievable Andy mac. 1066 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: All I can say, is Iran has the Ayatola, and 1067 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 1: we have a f to have purevol. 1068 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 2: Willy and honor of the day. After the opener read 1069 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 2: to get back on track and get that first win tomorrow. 1070 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 2: Let's get it done. It say, don't get too high 1071 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 2: and don't get too low. We leave you with the 1072 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 2: immortal words of the student Triport. 1073 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens, won't we Whatever happened to 1074 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: that guy, it's unacceptable, he said as prosecutor. If we 1075 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: don't have public safety, the street car will have the 1076 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: tourist eaten by the dinosaurs. 1077 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 2: I would expect prosecutors to act like prosecuting by Billy Cunningham, 1078 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 2: the Great American. 1079 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: Now's in about twenty hours since the freakas last night 1080 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: Mayor Pirrival, who by the way, appears to be gone again. 1081 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: Last time he was gone in July where there was 1082 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: a music festival bad timing to take off. And now, 1083 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: according to the Lemon Courney the vice mayor, the mayor 1084 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: is not here. He's gone once again for a Red's 1085 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: opening day. He finds these events unacceptable. What's unacceptable it's 1086 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: an absent mayor. But nonetheless jo than you and I 1087 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: know is Ken Cobra of the Police Union and Ken Kober, 1088 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: Welcome again the Bill Cunningham Show. You've had about almost 1089 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: a day to assess what happened. This doesn't end though tonight. 1090 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: This is another event. Tomorrow is another big event at 1091 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: the Great American which his Family Day is going to 1092 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: have forty thousand people there. So when you have time about. 1093 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 2: A day to sleep on and get up, give me 1094 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 2: your assessment of what happened last night. 1095 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 7: You know this is just nothing but a group of 1096 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 7: unruly people that are out to cause chaos, to break 1097 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 7: the law, and just ruin what should have been just 1098 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 7: an absolute great day of bringing baseball back to Cincinnati 1099 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 7: for a new season. 1100 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: The thing I noticed the complete breakdown of law and order. 1101 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: I saw numerous videos of large numbers of youths running 1102 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: at police lines. There's one video which I assume is accurate. 1103 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like I'm worried today about AI constantly, 1104 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: but this one kid jumped on top of a couple 1105 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: cops that were in uniform with a gun on their side, 1106 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: on duty, jumped on top of them rolling around the street. 1107 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: Are you aware of. 1108 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: Innsign's I had on Brad Greenberg, the judge who set 1109 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: bonds this uh, this morning about an hour ago. Can 1110 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: you talk about, uh, the the conditions of the police 1111 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: officers who suffered assaults and whether or not are those 1112 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: videos legitimate? With some of these individuals simply ran at 1113 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: the place through the line and jumped on top of them. 1114 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 2: Is that is that AI or is that real? 1115 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 7: No, there were some of it that was absolutely real. 1116 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 7: You know, these officers are just trying to maintain order 1117 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 7: and by the way, they did an absolutely fantastic job. 1118 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 7: Understand that with what they had to deal with. You know, 1119 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 7: they were adequately staffed for this event for people to 1120 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 7: go down there and enjoy themselves and you enjoy, enjoy 1121 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 7: the print, enjoy the game. 1122 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 5: What they. 1123 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 7: Thousands of people that decide that they're just gonna create chaos, 1124 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 7: that they're gonna, you know, randomly assault people, assault each other, 1125 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 7: you'll assault the police. 1126 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 5: There wasn't enough. 1127 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 7: In the state that would have been able to adequately 1128 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 7: control that, but they certainly did the best with what 1129 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 7: they had. 1130 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Do you need more? I mean, what do you need? 1131 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Do you need? Where's the breakdown? 1132 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Because if this had happened years ago, there'd be a 1133 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: different reaction. Is for example, the National Guard I had 1134 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: on a while. About an hour ago, Chris Meatherman, former 1135 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: vice mayor, said the National Guard needs to be called 1136 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: him in. I've talked to Vivek Ramaswami and his staff. 1137 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: They're saying they're assessing it. I sent a text into 1138 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: the governor, Mike DeWine. I'm going to put a call 1139 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: into him. Do you need the National Guard to come 1140 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati for these kind of events? 1141 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 5: No, we don't. 1142 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 7: What we need is a court system that if people 1143 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 7: want to act like this when they're arrested, that they're 1144 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 7: going to be held accountable. You know, the police made 1145 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 7: seventeen arrest which, in the grand scheme of things, was 1146 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 7: a very very minimal amount of arrest to be made. 1147 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 7: But they did their best to restore this order. But 1148 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 7: that they need is accountability. You know, this didn't happen 1149 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 7: ten years ago, this didn't happen fifteen years ago, it 1150 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 7: didn't happen last year. But as we long, as we 1151 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 7: continue to embolden the criminal element in this city and 1152 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 7: in this county with weak judges, this will continue. 1153 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: So what's changed then is not the police. I don't 1154 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: blame cops. I can't imagine being a young cop and 1155 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: this is a young man's game to stand there for 1156 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: ten to twelve hours putting up with this crap. I 1157 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: can't imagine a thirty to thirty five year old cops 1158 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: standing there. Kids are running out of them and jump 1159 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: on top of them. Every f bomb's being displayed. I'm 1160 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: watching kids commit numerous assaults toward Reds fans, but also 1161 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: toward each other. Chemical may spray is being deployed. Bear 1162 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: spray was being deployed by the crowd and not by 1163 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the police. And they sit there and stand there and 1164 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 1: take it. And the last thing you want to do 1165 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: is arrest somebody, because it means two or three or 1166 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: four cops leave the scene, go to the Hamlet County jail, 1167 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: lock them up, takes one to two hours to come 1168 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: back and say so. As far as responsible parties, you 1169 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: would mainly blame a weak liberal, far left wing soft 1170 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: on crime judges more than the fellow officers or REDS fans. 1171 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 2: You would blame the judicial system without a doubt, you know, 1172 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 2: and the city administration. 1173 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 7: They need to own it too. 1174 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 2: You have a mayor and a city manager. 1175 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 7: That refuses to demand that judges to hold these people accountable. 1176 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,479 Speaker 2: You don't hear it. I saw the statement from the mayor. 1177 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 2: This is outrageous. We can't accept that. 1178 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,479 Speaker 5: There's the city. 1179 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: It's unacceptable. We have to do better, Cincinnati, we have 1180 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 2: to do better. 1181 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 7: It's mind boggling that they are not coming out demanding 1182 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 7: that judges hold these people accountable. 1183 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 2: That's the only way any of this is going to 1184 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 2: change is if. 1185 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 7: People actually fear that there could be a consequence for 1186 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 7: them going to jail. And right now it's just ain't happening. 1187 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 7: And I'm telling you it's going to be a long, 1188 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 7: long summer for law enforcement. 1189 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I talked to Northern Kentucky officials. This is not your Baileywick, 1190 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: but I talked to prosecutors and police in Covington who 1191 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: had numerous Covington police cars on the south end of 1192 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the of the suspension bridge I'm looking at. I saw 1193 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: video of this. The police cars are saying, don't bring 1194 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: that crap here. Doesn't that send a message to somebody 1195 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 1: that's something is wrong in Cincinnati, you would. 1196 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 5: Think, Yep. 1197 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 7: It also sends a message to those that live in 1198 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 7: Northern Kentucky that they're elected officials aren't going. 1199 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,479 Speaker 2: To tolerate this. In Northern Kentucky. That's why it doesn't 1200 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 2: happen there. 1201 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Mayor Washington, who by the way, is an African American, 1202 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: but that's irrelevant. Mayor Washington is stronger on law enforcement 1203 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: than aftab peer Ofval was on his best day, and 1204 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: he has told the police within the bounds of the law, 1205 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: make sure this crap doesn't come to my hometown at Covington. 1206 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 1: And that's the message. And is AFT have perrival showed 1207 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: up to your knowledge police roll calls recently and spoken 1208 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to the troops before they go onto the field. 1209 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 2: No, not that I'm aware of. 1210 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, that we had a lateral 1211 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 7: class of officers, experienced officers that graduated this morning, and 1212 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 7: we had council Member Scotti Johnson was there. He was 1213 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 7: the only representative from city hall that was there. 1214 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 1: I've seen campaign donations and endorsements and after a Peer 1215 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Ofval for example, endorsed Judge Monday, Bernard Munday. He's the 1216 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: judge that set a low bond on someone who shot 1217 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: someone at the Riverfront Live event, which was a terrible circumstance. 1218 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I could not imagine some judge setting a bond then 1219 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: inquiring about an ankle monitor to let that person out 1220 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: and the main supporter of Judge Monday was after a 1221 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: pure of all. He wanted to make sure his judges 1222 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: were elected. And I'm told by lawyer friends that go 1223 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: through the process of getting endorsed that no cash bonds 1224 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 1: is one of the first things asked of these Democratic 1225 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: lawyers who want to become judges. Do you agree with 1226 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: the idea of no cash bonds because it requires somebody 1227 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: to put up a bond, whether they or not yet 1228 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: convicted is unfair. So when you put the hat on 1229 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: the head of people responsible have ted pureval has endorsed 1230 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: the liberal Democratic judges elected and he said to them, 1231 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: no cash bonds. And when you have no cash bonds, 1232 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 1: you have chaos. And this morning Judge Brad Greenberg said, 1233 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: and two bonds for cops that were beaten last night, 1234 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand dollars in bonds that might be 1235 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: reviewed in common Police Court when it gets up the ladder. 1236 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, would it be helpful if the mayor of 1237 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: this city would say to his Democratic screening committee that 1238 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: we have to have appropriate bonds in order to defend 1239 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: the community, take into account the safety of the community. 1240 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be more helpful without a doubt. 1241 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,919 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't understand how any elected leader would 1242 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 7: be against something that is going to make. 1243 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 2: Their city safer. 1244 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 7: But yet here we are, here, we are well, that's 1245 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 7: I think. 1246 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 2: There's the laugh I heard. 1247 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 7: There were ten people under indictment for murder that are 1248 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 7: running around the streets of Cincinnati right now. 1249 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Ten How does that happen? 1250 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 5: Well? 1251 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 7: And if you let ten people that are indicted for murder, 1252 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 7: you let them out on the streets, what do you 1253 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 7: think is going to happen? We continue to let violent 1254 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 7: offenders out back into our community with little to no consequence, 1255 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 7: and somehow we think things are going to be different. 1256 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 2: How about Shaquille Ferguson. He was out on a bond. 1257 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 1: He shot someone in North Side, but fortunately the person lived. 1258 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: He got out on a bond, a low bond, using 1259 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: a weapon under a disability, shot someone. A few weeks later, 1260 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: he finds himself outside the City Bird Restaurant, shooting back 1261 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 1: into the restaurant from the sidewalk in front of Jeff 1262 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Ruby Steakhouse. They hit two people inside and then he 1263 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: was going to get it back out on bond until 1264 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: the Fed stepped in. Then you had the horrible circumstances 1265 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 1: happening in Riverfront Live, or the judges in those cases 1266 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: or was going to set bonds let both of them 1267 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: out when they both had serious previous criminal record and 1268 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 1: they used a gun to shoot somebody inside Riverfront Live 1269 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 1: until the federal prosecutor got involved, until Jerra's got involved, 1270 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: in which case got changed. And so, how in the 1271 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: world can you have people like Shaquille Ferguson who uses 1272 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: a gun illegally to shoot someone out on a bond, 1273 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 1: who shoots two other people. 1274 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 2: How is that possible? Well, it's possible. 1275 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 7: Because there are many many elected officials in this city 1276 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 7: and county that clearly don't value safety. That they think 1277 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 7: that the social justice initiative is much much more important 1278 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 7: than keeping people in this city and county safe. And 1279 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 7: that's why we're I never thought I would say this, 1280 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 7: because I'm not exactly a big government type person, but 1281 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 7: I have never been more thankful that the federal government 1282 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 7: has stepped in to try to ensure the safety of 1283 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 7: the residents in this county. 1284 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: I think at this point defense have in died at 1285 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: about thirteen individuals, and I had on the two or 1286 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: three days ago, I had on the US Attorney and 1287 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: that he told me, Jirase, he told me that's going 1288 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 1: to be the order of the day that whenever the 1289 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 1: local judges or local prosecutor doesn't provide appropriate offenses, dominate. 1290 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Jira said, I'm going to do it. And so far 1291 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,839 Speaker 1: he's indicted a bunch of mores coming and the minimum 1292 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 1: you get in federal court is ten years on top 1293 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,719 Speaker 1: of the offense you committed. 1294 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 2: And if imagine if. 1295 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,760 Speaker 1: We had that policy in Hamlet County, you use a 1296 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: gun to shoot somebody, your your bond's going to be 1297 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 1: a million dollars, You're going to be locked up, and 1298 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: you're going to spend the next ten to twenty years 1299 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 1: in jail. 1300 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that make a difference. 1301 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 7: Without a doubt, because then you're holding people accountable, you know. 1302 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 7: But until we get to that point, this is going 1303 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 7: to continue. Thankfully, like I said, we have you know, 1304 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 7: dominate durrase, that's going Listen, I'm just going to tolerate this. No, 1305 01:08:54,720 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 7: you know, they're basically circumventing local courts, overriding their nonsense, 1306 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 7: no bail, we're gonna be soft on crime policies. They're 1307 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 7: overwriting it by using federal statutes, which I could tell 1308 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 7: you law enforcement is thankful for. 1309 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 2: Now you are. I'm not sure that judges have gotten 1310 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 2: the message. 1311 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: If I'm a judge sitting in Hamlet County and I 1312 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: look at the adults come into the room and say, 1313 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 1: you know, we can't put up with this anymore, I'd 1314 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 1: be embarrassed. I would say this is embarrassing. When the 1315 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Feds ought to worry about international terrorism and international drug dealing, 1316 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I ought to worry about stuff like that, maybe engraving 1317 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: mistakes or something federal. And for for the local US 1318 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 1: attorney to say, I live in Cincinnati, I'm not putting 1319 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 1: up with this anymore, in the fact, they hired a 1320 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: special person who's only this woman's only job is to 1321 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: prosecute gun cases out of the city of Cincinnati. If 1322 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 1: you're sitting in the city, aren't you embarrassed by this? 1323 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 7: Absolutely you think you would be, But sadly I don't 1324 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 7: think they are. I think the judges that are that 1325 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 7: are pushing this, you know, so cash list bail system. 1326 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 7: I think they're going, this isn't working exactly how we 1327 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 7: wanted to. 1328 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 2: So that's the shame of all of us. 1329 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: You're saying, there's ten murderers loose on bond in the 1330 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati awaiting trial that otherwise should be locked. 1331 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Up without a doubt. 1332 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: All right, Ken Kobert, good luck. I'm glad you're there. 1333 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: I think you're a dinosaur. 1334 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 5: You know. 1335 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: One of my friends said the Cincinnati is going to 1336 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: become like Jurassic Park with the tourists being eaten by 1337 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: the velociraptors. And I'm looking around at those Reds fans 1338 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 1: that I was with. Yesterday about five six pm, things changed. 1339 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: Local news anchors were told by their news directors, get out, 1340 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 1: something's happening here. 1341 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 2: It's bad. 1342 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Could you sense that yesterday at six or seven o'clock 1343 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: that the crowd changed, that the mob rule took over. 1344 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Could you sense that. 1345 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,679 Speaker 7: It was really a little bit earlier than that, after 1346 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 7: the parade ended, and of course, you know, you still 1347 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,839 Speaker 7: have people lingering around, but then you started seeing pockets 1348 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 7: of one hundred and two hundred juveniles, three hundred juveniles, 1349 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 7: you know, in Washington. 1350 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 2: Park fighting each other. 1351 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 7: And it's like you could just tell that this was 1352 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 7: building and building and building. And of course as soon 1353 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 7: as the game gets over, the sun starts to set, 1354 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 7: and then things. 1355 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Just get completely out of control, and they those were 1356 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: not Reds fans, correct. 1357 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 7: No, I don't think that there's too many of them 1358 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 7: that went to the game nor knew even knew what 1359 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 7: the score was. 1360 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 2: And how about free bus rides, does that play into it? 1361 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,560 Speaker 7: You know, I appreciate what Metro was trying to accomplish, 1362 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 7: giving people the opportunity not they have to pay, you know, 1363 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 7: the absorbitant amount of money that it costs to park 1364 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,600 Speaker 7: down here, you know, to try to alleviate traffic. I 1365 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 7: think the one thing they didn't consider was the fact 1366 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 7: the juveniles. You know, if they would have said, look, 1367 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 7: it's free to ride a Metro bus, but any juvenile 1368 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 7: has to be a company with an adult. This very 1369 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 7: well could have been a very different day yesterday. But 1370 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 7: it's hopefully it's something that they learned from. But Metro 1371 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 7: has been a great partner to the police. 1372 01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 2: They've been trying to. 1373 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 7: Find solutions, which you've le so I certainly don't want 1374 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 7: to don't want to blame Metro for these problems because 1375 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 7: I think something that was ill intention was taken advantage of. 1376 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: Well, the beat goes on, you know, the beat goes 1377 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 1: on tonight tomorrow, it's not going to change. In other words, 1378 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: this isn't one off, right, this is not one off, 1379 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 1: and now we're back to normal. 1380 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 2: Is this normal? 1381 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 7: Well, we'll see. We got the uh, the kids, Red's 1382 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,640 Speaker 7: opening Day on Saturday and a new King's protest, and 1383 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 7: my understanding their intention is to come up to the banks, 1384 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 7: of course, right around the time that the baseball is 1385 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 7: going to be starting with all these families with their kids. 1386 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 2: So we'll see how this works out. 1387 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: All right, good luck tomorrow. The beat goes on. Ken Kober, 1388 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thanks for coming on the Bill 1389 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. No Kings protests, the Rioters and Reds baseball. Ken, 1390 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: thank you very much. 1391 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for having me. 1392 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 5: Bill. 1393 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's continue, can you Let's continue with more 1394 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: seven hundred ww. 1395 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 2: Goodbye's only guys. Oh hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting. 1396 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 3: Guy. 1397 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 2: Goodbye's on the guy. They didn't heed that nice warning, 1398 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 2: did they. You know one thing Lance said yesterday that 1399 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 2: made some sense. He seldom says things that make a 1400 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 2: lot of sense. Would you agree? Yes, Lance mcgallisher said 1401 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 2: this yesterday. Okay, when the Red score four runs or more, okay, 1402 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 2: they win seventy five percent of their games. Okay, when 1403 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 2: they scored three runs or less, they lose seventy five 1404 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 2: percent of their games. Now, if they would have scored 1405 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 2: four runs yesterday, what would have happened. They would have 1406 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 2: been one to zero in a top the division. They 1407 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 2: scored less than four runs, and they're now ziping one, 1408 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 2: tied with the Cubs for a last How about the 1409 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 2: How about Tampa Bay and Saint Louis. Say, Tampa Bay's 1410 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 2: up seven to one and late in the inning, and 1411 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 2: I believe, if I'm right, Saint Louis scored like seven 1412 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,719 Speaker 2: runs in the eighth inning to take the game nine 1413 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 2: to seven. How about past He looked like me out 1414 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 2: there yesterday? And how about you want you know you 1415 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 2: were saying, and everybody else was saying, including Lance, that 1416 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,759 Speaker 2: you wanted to move la daily cruise out to center field. 1417 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 2: What about that guy that played what's his name? The 1418 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,840 Speaker 2: guy that played center for He was a shortstop for Pittsburgh. 1419 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 2: They switched to the center field cruise. He looked like 1420 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 2: me out there yesternight. Good. He looked like the bad 1421 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 2: News Bears trying to catch you. It's hard, thank you. 1422 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: What you have to do is be comfortable in your 1423 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 1: position and TJ. Friedel's adequate defensive player. Right, yeah, it's okay, 1424 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: yeah it's not. But that Cruise guy, I mean, he 1425 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 1: has no idea, no clue. 1426 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 2: And Skeens is like he's he's you know what, they 1427 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 2: might they ought to just trade him to the Yankees 1428 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 2: and get it over with. I'll take well, look, he's 1429 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 2: not even want any So he's going to pitch against 1430 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 2: the Reds. I guess Tuesday, maybe Tuesday or Wednesday with 1431 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 2: an attitude. So yeah, he'll be angry. Yep, still date 1432 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 2: my old girlfriend, that Dune woman. Yeah, she he is, 1433 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 2: I think, so I'll find out. Go ahead, will he 1434 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 2: the S Dwoe reporters of prosers, every local teme Star 1435 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 2: heating and air conditioning dealers temestar quality you could feel 1436 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 2: in beautiful northern Kentucky called Johnson Heating and Cooling At 1437 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 2: eight five nine four seven two sixty fifty one. 1438 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Fine said, what we saw yesterday was the results of 1439 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 1: liberalism that's metastasized in almost every major American city. Meaning 1440 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Red's losing three to nothing for that too, but also 1441 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 1: the behavior of the Democratic children running loose in the 1442 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,520 Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. 1443 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 2: Every Democrat should beg forgiveness of people like you and me. Well, 1444 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,919 Speaker 2: now they're saying the GOP's now that bill that's described 1445 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 2: to pay House TSA. People said, naa, they're not putting 1446 01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 2: up in the Senate craft. And now the President has 1447 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 2: signed an EO to pay the agents an EO your comments. 1448 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 2: That's the Reds. They've been shut out for the first time, 1449 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 2: Willie since twenty eighteen yesterday, and the opener and day 1450 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 2: off to day series continues tomorrow Kids Opening Day. Many 1451 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 2: activities pregame and during the game on the schedule three 1452 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 2: ten tomorrow with the airtime on the RNL carriers Inside 1453 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 2: Pitch and Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show. 1454 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 1: After the game, Saga have a report here from my 1455 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 1: archaeologist's friends. They may have discovered the tomb of d'Artagnan, 1456 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the great famed musketeer that Saviors named after d'Artagnan. I 1457 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 1: have the grave right here. They think they have found 1458 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Tagnan d'Artagnan. They have found the grave where it's near 1459 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 1: a church. It's an altar in France. I'm looking at 1460 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,879 Speaker 1: it right there. There's a picture of it. The Xavier's finest. 1461 01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: It's a hole in the ground an altar? 1462 01:16:59,600 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 5: Wow? 1463 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: What about Alexander the Great? Where's this tone? Or Cleopatra? 1464 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Where's she? 1465 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 2: He's probably in Egypt somewhere, but they've uncovered the tomb 1466 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,759 Speaker 2: of the original Musketeer. How about that in the Netherlands. 1467 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 2: You want to go there and check it out. It's 1468 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 2: a hole in the gun. You want to go Michigan. 1469 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 2: You want to go there and check it out? How 1470 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 2: long we get through TSA. It's okay, you can't get 1471 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,680 Speaker 2: there NCAA attorney update will he brought to you by 1472 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 2: ac R. Gunny Pools and Spas call today swim this 1473 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 2: year Sweet sixteen tonight? What's happening? Saint John's and Duke 1474 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,639 Speaker 2: I'm taking Saint John's because of Rick Pattino, I love him. 1475 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 2: Alabama and Michigan. I'm going with Michigan because of the 1476 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 2: weed Man Tennessee and Iowa State. I'm taking the Cyclones 1477 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 2: to rule. Then then Hurley the It was right on 1478 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 2: the tip of my tongue. That guy tom Izzo is 1479 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 2: Michigan State. Yeah, I'm taking Yukon because of the Big 1480 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 2: East seven o'clock on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. What about 1481 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 2: the Princeton Vikings basketball team Princeton Vikings. I emailed the 1482 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 2: coach Willie. They had their big banner unveiling today on 1483 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 2: Sharon Road. They had a big pep rally. Get them 1484 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,799 Speaker 2: in here. They should be here Monday at one thirty. 1485 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 2: We'll take them Monday at one third the Vikes. The 1486 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,640 Speaker 2: Vikings are coming the home of the legendary Pat Mancuso 1487 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 2: Is he's still alive? I think about ninety some years old. 1488 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 2: Good the Vikings. What if the Vikings played the team 1489 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,520 Speaker 2: we had in from Wyoming the other day? The Cowboys 1490 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 2: Cowboys by the Vikes would take that's Division one versus 1491 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 2: Division four. They're still but you never know, you don't know. 1492 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,600 Speaker 2: I would take the Cowboys over the Vikings. Asked that 1493 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 2: coach at cool question. I asked them, I'm gonna ask 1494 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 2: them that question segment and the Wyoming Cowboys came out 1495 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 2: on their horses fairly, had a room to get inside 1496 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 2: the studio here. I know we're going to go back 1497 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 2: to the moon. Huh yeah, come bye. I just remember 1498 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 2: Alice from Crampton right to the moon, right right to 1499 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 2: the moon. I can't do that anymore. Red Sandfords would 1500 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 2: Richard K. Jones have done with this yesterday. Oh well, 1501 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 2: he would have that would have been nothing happened, nothing, nothing, nothing. 1502 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 2: There wouldn't have been any fights at Washington Park. Then 1503 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 2: they moved to Fountain Square. They never would have had that, 1504 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 2: and then downtown, downtown. Then the suspension would have been 1505 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 2: surrounded Suspension Bridge. It would have been a D Day 1506 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 2: invasion by Sheriff Jones, Rob Sanders and the boys on 1507 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 2: the other side airborne on the ground and coming up 1508 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 2: the Ohio Rig submarines. They would have they would have 1509 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 2: had an amphibious landing. Now Washington and Covington said go ahead, 1510 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,600 Speaker 2: and Rob Sanders would have been standing Spension Bridge with 1511 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 2: his hand out going uh, waving one finger, the index fingers. 1512 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 2: So in not coming here, big boy in Cincinnati, riot today, 1513 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 2: get paid tomorrow, Get paid tomorrow if you riot today. 1514 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 2: But they said tomorrow. 1515 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,799 Speaker 8: The one right good city is It's just one another 1516 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,759 Speaker 8: step and a long series of steps where they embarrass themselves. 1517 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,719 Speaker 8: I think it's an outrageous that the city council acted 1518 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 8: the way they acted. 1519 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 2: Sidles, one of the protesters this morning, faced a judge. 1520 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 2: It was like they got out on one hundred and 1521 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 2: fifty bucks or something. So why'd you do this? He said, 1522 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 2: just having fun, having fun, just hit police loop stores 1523 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 2: objected to. 1524 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 8: Is argumentative, assuming in fact not an evidence, leading and 1525 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 8: suggestive and utterly incompetent. 1526 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 2: The relevant in the material, as Simon least, is still 1527 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,719 Speaker 2: the sheriff. It's embarrassed themselves, like you in court against 1528 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 2: the crusher. Where is the mayor? He's the inquire says 1529 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 2: on vacation. I don't know where. He won't say he's unavailable. 1530 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,680 Speaker 2: He's always unavailable. That's the Ohio Broadcaster of the Year 1531 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 2: and the Grand Marshal of the parades say about this. 1532 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,839 Speaker 2: Do you think who cares? Thank you? He's still reveling 1533 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,719 Speaker 2: in his award and also being the Grand Marshal. Pretty 1534 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:13,720 Speaker 2: good stuff for Bramley. Johnny Bench was there yesterday. I 1535 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 2: think I walked in it with this for the station 1536 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 2: about fifteen or twenty years ago. I've never been in it, 1537 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 2: not one time, I'm never, but otherwise, you know, we 1538 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 2: got to be down at the grail and you can't 1539 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 2: be two places at once. At least I don't have 1540 01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,799 Speaker 2: tab pierraval can do that. You got a point there, segment. 1541 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 2: Get me out of the students report, Simon Leees lives 1542 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 2: now only in our memory, along with Sean Donough. And 1543 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,640 Speaker 2: they live now but only in our memory. Willie and 1544 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 2: Honter of everybody, have it a good weekend. We leave 1545 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,839 Speaker 2: and go, Reds. We leave you with the immortal words 1546 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,920 Speaker 2: of the Stood report. The Highway patrol story next week 1547 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 2: is a very unusual one. We hope you'll be with. 1548 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 3: Us until then. 1549 01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,439 Speaker 2: Remember the clowns of the circus are real funny. Put 1550 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 2: on the highway their murder. This is Roderick Crawford saying 1551 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 2: to you. Next week, Ken Kober said, we have ten 1552 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 2: murderers out on bond, walking the streets of Cincinnati, with 1553 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 2: six shooters on every hip. Seven