1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Next to the producer of the show. This morning, as 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: we were getting ready to go do some TV work 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: at Fox nine, I said, you know, final four weekend 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: men's side of course Saturday, and then the championship game 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Monday night. I wonder if our old pal, Richard Patino 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: might be willing to give us a little scout and 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: report on the Final four. And sure enough I asked 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: guards you guys said let me check, and the answer 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: came back to the affirmative. So Richard now joins us 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: via the Connecticot Water Systems hotline. Welcome back to the program. 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: It's been way too long since we bugged you. I 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: think it's at least the way I look at it, 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: and I hope you're doing well. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'm doing great. I thought we were talking 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: nit Final four, but I can talk both. If he'd 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: liked if I am an n champion. But I appreciate 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: you having it so. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Always self deprecating to a fault. That's one of the 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: great Richard Pottino strengths, that is for sure. You know, 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: speaking of that, I'm not here to talk about your dad, 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: I trust me, but it does pop into my head 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: that I think your dad's reputation historically when it comes 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: to teams faltering or not, you know, taking another step. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Is he's impatient, he's frustrated, and I thought he was 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is a change in 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: him or you would tell me he's been this way 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: all along. His level of graciousness and his philosophical approach 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: to his team getting eliminated when they did. I was 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: impressed with that, and I was maybe I shouldn't have 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: been surprised. Has he always been like that? Or do 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you think he's changed a little bit as he's gotten 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: gone through all the wars that he's gone through, to 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: a place where maybe his approach is a little little 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: different than it might have been when he was, you know, 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: forty years younger. 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he's definitely softened a little bit. 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: You know. I think if you go to a practice, 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: he's certainly still very I don't want to say in 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: your face, but he's very very intense, you know, but 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: he's definitely mellowed with the other things. 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: You know. 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: I think you just have to you know, I mean, 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I just think the climate is so much different right now, 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: but you know, it's also end of the year, like 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: it's hard to have sour grapes from the last game, 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's a little different than 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: a February game. Yeah, you know, but he also had 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: a I got a chance to spend San Diego Biggie's 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: tournament DC. I kind of followed them around, and he 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: had a really really good group of guys. They were 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: a good team. But like we talk about high character, 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: like easy to coach, So I think more than anything, 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: his tone was like really grateful, like he had the 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: kid Zubi edge off, like he was a coach's dream. 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: So I think more than anything, probably appreciative, but also 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: probably mellowed out throughout the years. 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: Do any coaches go to the Final four anymore? Because 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: once a bout of time. I remember when I was 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: covering them more in my newspaper phase. You could they 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: were there all over the place at the Final four, 61 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, coaches who were not participating, I mean, but 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: still going. And I feel like there are hardly any 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: that that go anymore. Do you gos, Do any coaches 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: who are not participating go to the Final four any longer? 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: You know, I if my son Jack, my son is 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: eleven years old, and if he was like, hey, I 67 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: want to go. I would certainly go. The problem is, 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: you just finish a long season. You're trying to gear 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: up for this crazy portal that's going to hit on Tuesday, 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: which I told guards you this. I mean it opens Tuesday, 71 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: but it's open right now. So it's just kind of 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: hard with the timing part of it. So you know, 73 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: coaches definitely go, you know, but if you can get 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: a little break Easter weekend before, I think a lot 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: of coaches are opting to do that because chaos is 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: about to ensue here for the next probably five six 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: weeks for everybody. 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Is there any way to prepare for that level of chaos. 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: You got to try to get as much money as 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: you possibly can. And I'm not even I'm not even 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: being facetious. I mean it's it's if you, if you, 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: there's ways to do this right. And the first thing 83 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: is to go high school recruiting, uh player. And I 84 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: can't believe I'm talking this way, but players traditionally are 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: a little bit cheaper high school recruiting. 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: And then you've got your. 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: Retention piece, which maybe you can get a little bit 88 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: of a hometown discount or whatever. The portal is by 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: far the most expensive way to go uh, because the 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: players got amazing leverage, you know, so every coach has 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: been begging and pleading all year to get as much 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: money as they possibly can. We all thought there was 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: going to be this cap, which you know it'sposed to 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: be twenty two million, but then you're reading that, you know, 95 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: SEC football teams are spending over forty million Ohio State 96 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: and so on. So honestly, the way to do it 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: is just to try to educate, you know, whether it's 98 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: your ad your president boosters, just to get them to 99 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 2: understand like, okay, if this this is what you want, 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: this is the cost that goes into winning. And then 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: the other thing too is you know these players all 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: have agents. The agents are sending you legit rosters of 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: twenty players that they have on their rosters. So you're 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: trying to watch as much film as you can. And 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 2: it's really not recruiting as much as it is decision making, 106 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: deciding who to invest in and deciding, you know, when 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: to kind of walk away, you know, because everybody's going 108 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: to have more money than you. You just got to 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: spend your money wisely. 110 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: The conventional wisdom is that the Michigan Arizona game is 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: the national championship game. I that's always been you know, 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of trite, I think, an overdone for you know, 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: numerous reasons. We can point to lots of times where 114 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: a certain semi final game is viewed as the game, 115 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: and then the team that wins that game ends up 116 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: losing in a national championship. But give me a sense 117 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: of I mean, do you think there is some belief 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: that on paper Michigan and Arizona are the two best teams? 119 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: Are? 120 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Not so much. 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: I think they're definitely the two best teams, but you know, 122 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: kind of to your point, like that's going to be 123 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: a high, high level game. Not not to suggest that 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: any Final four game isn't, but who knows how much 125 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: that takes out of ei their team. You know, Michigan 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: has by far been the most impressive team. Arizona is 127 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: very unique because they don't shoot the three. You know, 128 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: in this modern day analytics shoot a million threes. Offensive rebound, 129 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: they don't do it. You know, they're the old school 130 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: Gonzaga flow. They play two bigs. They're getting to the basket, 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: which is the highest percentage shot. As silly as it sounds, 132 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: and so they're gonna shoot a high percentage because they're 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: going to play through their bigs, they're gonna get to 134 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: the free throw line. So that's obviously a very fascinating game. 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Michigan has got a little bit 136 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: more firepower. You know, Yakhul lundoners obviously a terrific player 137 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: as well, so that'll be a great game. But you know, 138 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: I think Yukon is interesting. You know, I played them 139 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: three times and John Shire actually called me after that, 140 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: Duke Saint John's gamey So what are your thoughts? And 141 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: I SOA, well, obviously don't watch the three games that 142 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: we played because they blew as out three games in 143 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: a row. But they've got like they've got a really 144 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: good blend. They've got a terrific young player in Brailla 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: Moans who made the three. You know, they got Terris Reed, 146 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: who might be the best big guy in the country. 147 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see if Yukon gets past Illinois, 148 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: that could be a game. But yeah, certainly I think 149 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Michigan and Arizona the two best teams. 150 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: So you know, I want to ask you you mentioned 151 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: how much you know certainly about Yukon played against them. 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: The Danny Hurley story fascinates me because obviously he's a 153 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: terrific coach. I think that's beyond any measure of debate. 154 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: But the debate comes into deportment, right, and the old 155 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: issue of well, some of stuff he does can be 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: kind of difficult to watch if you're a fan, maybe 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: a fan who doesn't have a rooting interest in either team. 158 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: But my question is is it annoying to coach against 159 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: him when he does some of the things he does? 160 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: The old basis of, well, it's like the officials great 161 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: on a different curve that if a guy does the 162 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: same stuff all the time, he gets away with it 163 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: more because they don't really know what to do with 164 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: what he does. Is that frustrating to coach against or 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: give me a sense of what that's like. 166 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: Well, not even being sarcastic, but a lot of this 167 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: year was frustrating for me because we're rebuilding and really 168 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: starting over, so none of our games were like really 169 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: really you know, I mean, it was over before it started, honestly. 170 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: But here's what I'll say about Dan Hurley for anybody 171 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: who knows him, like he's a really really good guy. 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: He really is, And I actually think he's mellowed in 173 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: a lot of ways. You know. Does he go a 174 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: little overboard with the rest at times? Yeah, I think 175 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: he would even admit it. But you know, he's trying 176 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: to give his team an edge. Is necessary, I don't 177 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: really think so, you know, for every Dan Hurley who's 178 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: all over the ress. You know, you could talk about 179 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: the Brad Stevens like it's it just swings in cycles, 180 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: and it's like now the new thing is be hard 181 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: on your players, and society is soft and these coaches 182 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: are hard on their players and they're winning, you know, 183 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: So I mean it's just to each their own. Like, 184 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: but when I got in the league, in the Big ten, 185 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Brad Underwood was really really in every player's face, scowling 186 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: on the sidelines. He's like the happiest guy in the 187 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: world right now. Now he's in the final four. So 188 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: you know, whatever works for him. But I will tell 189 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: you this, like Dan Hurley is, you know, he's for 190 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: his players. He's a fierce competitor. He's always been great 191 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: with me, so you know, I mean I think he 192 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: goes a little crazy at times, you know, but I 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: think he's being competitive and I don't think The one 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: thing that I think it's a little bit you know, 195 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: twisted with him, is he's not really doing it at 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: his players. He's really doing it at his res So 197 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: obviously reps are people too, you know. But you know, 198 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: I think he's gotten a lot better with it. I 199 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: think it was an eye opening experience for him. I 200 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: believe it was last year in Maui, you know, where 201 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: he got a crucial technical that cost him the game. 202 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I believe that last year really helped him. 203 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: Not that he needs help. I mean, the guy's going 204 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: to three final fours and four years. But I actually 205 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: think he's mellowed a little bit more than people probably notice. 206 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Richard Patino kind enough to join us, did you ever 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: think Yukon was going to beat Duke until they literally did? Well? 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that shot was, that last play was It 209 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: was heartbreaking. Honestly, as a coach, you're like, oh my god, 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: I feel so bad for the boozer kid. I've always 211 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: thought Yukon, when I look at a model, like I 212 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: think coaches, is trying to figure out a model of 213 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: how to build a team, and I always thought it 214 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: was one of the most complete teams. But Duke very, 215 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: very talented. I saw them in person and it was 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: just you know, I mean, Boozer is a top three pick. 217 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: The kid Evans was phenomenal against Saint John's in the 218 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: game that I watched. But you know, I always thought Yukon, 219 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: you know, you've got a potential first round pick in 220 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: Brayln Mollins. You've got Caravan who's just won so many games. 221 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: I believe Terris Reed is maybe the most underrated player 222 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: in the I mean, the guy had twenty seven rebounds 223 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: in a game, which is unheard of. But it was 224 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: a phenomenal comeback and you know, that was a storybook 225 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: type ending. That's one of the best shots I've seen 226 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: to end the game. You know, you feel bad the 227 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Duke guys, But I mean, Kon Yukon really is when 228 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: you talk about stories and sports, and I know you're 229 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: an Indiana guy. I mean the foot Indiana football is 230 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: by far the most amazing thing I've ever seen. But 231 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: for Yukon. This is not a knock on Yukon. But 232 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: Yukon is not like this beautiful, amazing place with unbelievable facilities, 233 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: but the culture, starting with Jim Calhoun and Gino Ariama 234 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: they just got this competitive will to go win and 235 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: this toughness that you know you can never count them out. 236 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said. What's give me the lowdown on 237 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: the Balkan brigade for Illinois. Is it a pipeline? Is 238 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: it something they is just coincidence or what's that all about? 239 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: No, it's a shift again. Like I kind of said 240 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: with Brad Underwood, I mean, he's done, you know, a 241 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: really good job of just kind of reinventing the way 242 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: that he plays. When I was in the league, they 243 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: ran this thing called spread offense, where they'd really play 244 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: off the kind of the elbow high post. Now they're 245 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: just spreading it. They've got great size, they run a 246 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: lot of just ball screen, shoot a lot of threes. 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: I actually talked to Brad early in the season as 248 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: offensive rebounding philosophy, because the one thing you have to 249 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: do with them is when they shoot at three, they 250 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: send four guys to the glass. They don't worry about 251 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: transition defense. 252 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: So you know, they have. 253 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: A very very influential agent who's from over there, who 254 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: they must have a great relationship with, and they brought 255 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: those guys over. I had a Serbian kid this year 256 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: who started for me? And I tell you what, like tough, smart, 257 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: know how to play the game of basketball. You know, 258 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: So when you watch Illinois play just their size, you know, 259 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: every team in the final four right now, people everybody 260 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: copies everybody, and you're going to start to see people 261 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: really try to go back to that true center. You know, 262 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: seven foot six' ten six eleven guys all, across And 263 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: illinois has done an amazing job of reinventing themselves and 264 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: going overseas and it's really paying. Off is the one 265 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: of THE i guess grand declarations from this tournament on 266 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: the men's side, certainly is That cinderella has been officially declared. 267 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Dead that and you, know we, KNOW i Think texas 268 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: w an eleven, seed but It's university Of, texas so 269 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: it's people don't really count it that. Way so and 270 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: the assumption is it's because of the way the pipeline 271 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: is set up now and the fact that players can 272 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: go wherever they want as often as they want to. 273 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: Go do you agree with? That do you think it's 274 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: overdone or do you think that's pretty much the direction everything's. 275 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: Going that's pretty much over that the mid major run 276 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: that we all think is such an important part of 277 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: the texture of the Big dance is just it's going. 278 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Away it's far less likely than ever that we're going 279 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: to see those stories on a regular. Basis, YEAH i 280 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: one hundreds percent agree with, it AND i was kind 281 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: of in the middle of. It you, Know New. 282 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: MEXICO i don't know if i'd call it a mid, 283 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: major but it's probably like a high mid. Major but 284 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: it's a really really good basketball. JOB i, mean we 285 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: would get fifteen thousand a, game but we ended the, 286 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: season we won the, league we won a game in 287 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: THE Ncaa. Tournament we were, older we were, talented we 288 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: had a chance to Be Michigan. State they got us 289 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: in the, end AND i had player meetings the next. 290 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: Day the portal wasn't, open AND i had three of 291 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: my players already tell me about the deals that they 292 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: had that were you, know four to five, times but 293 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: we were able to pay, them and, so you, KNOW 294 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: i wasn't bitter about it by any. Means but one 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: of the reasons WHY i Left New mexico was that 296 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: it was JUST i did not see a ceiling as 297 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: it pertained to. Nil Like, xavier we were one of 298 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: the lower teams in The Big east and we're correcting 299 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: it in a big way from an nil, Standpoint but 300 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: that would have been the highest in The Mountain west 301 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: or any of these, programs and it wouldn't even be. 302 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: Close so, yeah it is sad to see because the Mid, 303 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: majors for the most, part when they went on their, 304 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: runs it was kids who maybe not as, talented but 305 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: they had been in the program for three or four. 306 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Years BUT i just don't see a path anymore for 307 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: them unless it's the you, know winning the conference. Tournament but, 308 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's. Sad BUT i will also say, 309 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: this like the game is as good as it's ever 310 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: been now the structure and everything that's going on or, 311 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: chaos And i'm not sure how sustainable it, is but 312 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: when you turn on THE, tv like it is really 313 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: really good. Basketball but you, KNOW i think everybody coaches, 314 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: players they're just going to run to The power four 315 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: and Then Big east would be The power five because 316 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: those are where the resources. Are we all know as, coaches, 317 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: like you can't win unless you have, players and you 318 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: can't get players unless you have, money and you can't 319 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: retain players unless you have. Money, see that's the. Thing 320 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: people have to understand is you may have a good young, 321 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: team but the kids are going to move, on especially 322 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: with the rules right, now unless you have that money 323 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: to retain them because their value is so. High so 324 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: it is sad to, see but you, know the ratings are, 325 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: up the quality of play is. Phenomenal kids aren't. 326 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: Jumping to THE nba. 327 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: Anymore they almost prefer to stay in college because they're 328 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: understanding there's more money. There but, YEAH i think the 329 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: mid majors are in a tough spot right. NOW i 330 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: think expanning the tournament is not going to help the 331 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 2: mid majors by any means because the net rankings also 332 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: favor you. KNOW i remember WHEN i was in The Big, 333 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: TEN i looked, at you, know our, games and we 334 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: had a quad one opportunity every you, know every game 335 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: for like two and a half. Months and WHEN i 336 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: was In New, mexico you maybe had At San Diego 337 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: state and that was about. It, so you, know it 338 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: is what it. IS i don't think it's, changing especially 339 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: because the popularity right now is so, high so you, 340 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: know it always comes down to dollars and, cents AND 341 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: i don't think it's going away anytime. 342 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: Soon you mentioned The european, pipeline AND i don't know 343 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: if you AND i have talked about this. Before i've 344 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: talked about it a, lot certainly with other, people Including Tim, connley, 345 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: who of, course as you, know still runs The timberwolves and. 346 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: Others and the popular notion is that players are developed 347 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: differently in The european. System and WHEN i say, differently 348 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: there are a lot Of american basketball people who's think 349 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: they're developed, better that there is more of an understanding 350 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: of integrating within a, team less perhaps about individual, performance 351 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: and that it is almost eye. Opening in, fact When 352 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: i've talked about this With lea's TIME i talk about 353 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: this With, conley there's even discussion here he was involved 354 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: in a group that was almost trying to bring some 355 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: of those qualities to some of the academies, here that 356 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: there's something that could be borrowed from. There so you 357 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: have this is part of what you. Do do you 358 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: think there's some truth to? That do you think that's 359 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: kind of oversimplified or what do you say to? 360 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: That, WELL i would say, this they're more prepared because 361 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: these guys have played professional. Basketball you, know they're not true. 362 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: Freshmen when they Like ILLINOIS i forget the kid's, name 363 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: but like the kids like twenty three years old and 364 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: he's a. Freshman so the the kind of the the 365 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: progression for them is they play for these club teams 366 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 2: and then they're playing professionally against. Adults so you, KNOW 367 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: i wouldn't totally crap on like The american system because 368 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: these guys that you're watching in high school and IN, 369 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: aau you, know they're playing against seventeen year old players 370 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: eighteen year old, players so they're not growing up as. 371 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: Fast and you, know not to label, anybody but you, 372 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: know some of The european players may not be as, 373 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: athletic so they have to use the fundamentals certainly to advance. 374 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: Themselves and you, know because LIKE i said, Before i've 375 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: got two and they're as fundamentally sound as it. Gets 376 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: BUT i just think everything, is you, know the system 377 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: is so, evolving and if our players, here like if 378 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: you said a high school kid could go to THE G, 379 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: league play for a couple of, years then he goes to, 380 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: college those guys would be more ready than the pure 381 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: high school kids coming out Of hopkins or. Whatever so 382 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: a lot of it is just those players are older 383 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: and you know a lot of the kids coming out 384 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: of The american system maybe eighteen nineteen years, old but 385 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: they're also terrific as. Well AND i think THE nba 386 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: game has, evolved like it's not as much isolation. Basketball 387 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: it's way more, movement you. Know SO i think everybody's 388 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: kind of pulling from everybody in a big. 389 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: Way interesting question from a, Listener joe out Of. Tucson he, 390 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: writes would love to hear Coach patino's thoughts On Tommy, 391 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: lloyd who just signed a huge extension With arizona, today 392 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: thus removing himself From North carolina. Consideration his new contract 393 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: pays over seven million per year and he no longer 394 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: reports to the ad with whom he had clashed and 395 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: what a? 396 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: Dream what a? Dream, yeah directly. 397 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: To the school. President So joe wants to know what 398 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: you think about. That perhaps you've already kind of showed your. Hand. 399 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah IF i had that With Mark, Boyle i'd still 400 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: be the head coach Of, minnesota would have to deal with. 401 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: Him, No i'm just. 402 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Kidding mark AND i are still. Friends, yeah it's. Interesting 403 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: i've never seen that one, Before SO i don't know 404 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: the inner workings of everything, there you, know AD's got 405 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: hard jobs right. Now i've always kind of said with, 406 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 2: ads And i've had some really good, ads AND i 407 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: like MY ad, here but they're starting to feel the 408 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: pressure that head coaches have always felt because everybody's on 409 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: them about nil and all these. Things AND i think 410 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out kind of their role and 411 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: this whole, thing how involved they need to be and so. On, 412 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: so you, KNOW i don't know the inner workings of. 413 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: That i've never seen that before where he doesn't have 414 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: to report to THE. Ad BUT i will say, this 415 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: Like arizona's a premier. Job Tommy lloyd's a terrific. COACH 416 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: i always laugh, about you, know the incessant asking these. 417 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: Coaches it's, like what is the right? Answer you, know 418 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Because i'm sure he's trying to figure out a contract 419 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: situation In. Arizona i'm sure he's GOT unc who's also 420 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: coming at. Him he's got leverage right, now so he's 421 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: trying to make The arizona program in his situation. Better 422 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: but you know, what, honestly like that's how you improve you, 423 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: know your your, department your basketball program is when you 424 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: have these situations Like Tommy lloyd did AND i haven't 425 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: had a much of my. CAREER i had it At 426 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: New mexico and we were able to REALLY i ended up, 427 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: leaving but we were really able to put some things 428 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: in place that have never been put there. Before you. 429 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Know so Obviously Tommy, lloyd everybody's trying to figure it, out, 430 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: right it's who's in? Charge? Now do we HAVE? Gms 431 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: do we have? President AND i think that's the one 432 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: knock on THE nba with a lot of these coaches 433 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: is they don't feel like they have. Control so you, 434 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: KNOW i don't know If Tommy lloyd or any of 435 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: these coaches are feeling like that's slipping from them a little. 436 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: Bit and so he had opportunity to kind of plant 437 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: his flag and you, know kind of, say, hey this 438 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: is what we need to do moving. Forward and no 439 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: more power to. THEM i guess two last. 440 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: Things do you literally And i'm not being facetious, here 441 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: do you literally have an assistant coach who is in 442 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: charge of counting how many players you have on the 443 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: floor at any given? Moment, man that was. 444 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: BRUTAL i feel so bad and that just shows you. 445 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: Too With Fred, hoiberg this guy had an amazing, year, 446 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean as good as it gets For. Nebraska you, 447 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: know he took they were patient with. Him it took, 448 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: HIM i think five years to get The Assabay. Tournament 449 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: he's got this magical, season wins his first, game AND 450 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: i was watching, IT i was, like what is going 451 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: on right? Here BUT i don't know IF i specifically, 452 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: do BUT i will, say, like you got to be 453 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: really locked in on like these little things at the 454 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: end of, game like we've seen. IT i think it 455 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: was The dayton. Game player ran on the court when 456 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: they scored at the, buzzer The illinois, things so a learning. 457 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: Moment you hate to see. It i'm not sure If 458 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: i've ever seen that situation in such a crucial, Play 459 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: BUT i think all coaches watched towards the end of 460 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: the year and they kind of put some notes together 461 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: and some film together to get with their staff about. 462 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: It and CERTAINLY i will do that because that's you 463 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: hate to see. 464 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: That, lastly you mentioned you know this was not AN 465 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: i assume not an easy year for, you AND i 466 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: don't know if it's what you expected or you got 467 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: there and you, said, oh there's some stuff here THAT 468 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: i didn't really. Realize it's gonna be a little more 469 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: challenging earlyer THAN i. Thought how did you handle the 470 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: year At? Xavier how tough was it for? You where 471 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: are you in this whole? 472 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: Process you, know people ask me all the time what 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: DID i learn From? Minnesota BECAUSE i have to always 474 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: apologize for getting fired In minnesota to everybody that's, like, 475 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: oh you, Know AND i always say, this And i'm 476 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: not Saying minnesota is a bad. Job i'm. Not and 477 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: there are definitely things THAT i could have done better 478 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: to have more. Consistency but WHAT i will say is 479 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: IF i had one, regret And i'm Assuming nico does, 480 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: this but you've got to push the administration and everybody 481 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: to compete at the top of the. League and if 482 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: you want me to Beat Michigan, state if you want 483 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: me to Beat, indiana if you want me to Beat, 484 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: Illinois Ohio, State, wisconsin, like this is what we. Need 485 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: and so WHEN i got To, xavier nil is obviously 486 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: the most important, thing RIGHT i, mean that's it's all 487 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: that matters right. Now AND i will, say, financially the 488 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: market like tripled right WHEN i got the job because 489 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: everybody was trying to front load their their pay before 490 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: That house settlement went, in AND i think the mistake 491 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: That xavier made was we just didn't have the ability 492 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: to go up like others. Did i'm not saying it's a, 493 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: mistake and we may not have the, funds BUT i 494 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: was very very patient this. Year you, know we inherited no, 495 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: players we inherited a bottom three nil in the, league 496 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: and OBVIOUSLY i coached the, team tried to kind of 497 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: establish my culture as best you can when you, know 498 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: in this. Environment BUT i think the best THING i 499 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: did was really really inform everybody of what the market looks. 500 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: Like and if you Know xavier's a you know it's 501 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: a crazy. Staff But xavier And tennessee are the two 502 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: teams that have won the most tournament games and never 503 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: been to a final. Four so the expectations are, very very. 504 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: High you, know WHEN i got the, job people are 505 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: saying to, me we got to go to a final, 506 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: four AND i JUST i explained to them, graciously like 507 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: this is what it's going to. Cost so, NO i 508 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: kept my. Sanity, certainly you, KNOW i knew it'd be a, 509 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: rebuild and especially when you have to add twelve transfers 510 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: with kind of a limited, budget it's obviously hard to. 511 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: Do you, know if you have, to if you have 512 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: to get a whole new team with, transfers you have 513 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: to have a lot of, money you, know you really. 514 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: Do And i'm Sure nico's dealing with it and we've 515 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: we've certainly corrected. It so you, know this was a 516 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: long term decision for. Me New mexico was left behind 517 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 2: in The NEW pac twelve AND i just felt like 518 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: from a stability standpoint with The Big, east you, know 519 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: obviously it's not a power for but it's certainly pretty. 520 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: Stable who knows where it all. Goes BUT i really 521 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: believe like we're going to build for year two in year, 522 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: three and you, know we'll make a big jump this. 523 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Year SO i keep my sanity speaking of. That this 524 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: IS i think fairly breaking news out Of, washington D. 525 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: C President Donald trump has signed an executive order in 526 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: an effort to save college. Sports in his, words an 527 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: intervention at the highest level aimed at federally regulating nil, 528 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: collectives limiting transfer, movement capping player, eligibility and enacting funding 529 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: requirements for The olympics and women's. Sports The White house 530 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: announced he mentions the return of the NCAA's one time 531 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: transfer rule as, well which of, course has previously been deemed. 532 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Unlawful under the revised transfer, rules athletes would be allowed 533 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: to transfer once without, penalty but a second transfer would 534 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: trigger an automatic red shirt. Season the order also redefines 535 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: eligibility with a five for five. Model athletes have five 536 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: years to play five. Seasons so, again there's a lot 537 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: of details to be worked out, here and this doesn't 538 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: necessarily mean it's going to hold. Up but what what 539 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: what's your kind of gut reaction to? 540 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: This, WELL i think it's a good. Idea, NOW i 541 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: would say the timing of. It i'm not Sure Donald 542 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: trump knows when the transfer portal opens and all those. 543 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: Things BUT i don't think there's any way to limit their. 544 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: PAY i THINK nil. Started it was a great concept 545 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: of you, know a kid can get a marketing, deal 546 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: you know with you, Know Kroger Skyline. Chile i'm talking 547 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: like A cincinnati guy or. Whatever but now it's it's 548 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: pay for, play and it's just it's Like Major League. 549 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: Baseball you, know The dodgers are spending four hundred million 550 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: and you, know who knows what The twins are paying or. 551 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: Whatever BUT i do think If there's one thing that 552 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: could really really fix it is what he is, proposing 553 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: which is the five years and the one time. Transfer 554 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: now it's just so hard from a timing standpoint with 555 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: all of these. Guys there'll be more, lawsuits BUT i still, think, 556 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: LIKE i have no problem paying. Them but we still 557 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: are you, know academic institutions that want to see these guys, 558 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: graduate and we're we've moved so far away from. THAT i, 559 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: mean you, know we don't even talk about it anymore in, 560 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: recruiting which is. Sad so if you can tax one, 561 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: THING i think that you, know you give them five 562 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: years to, play you guys figure it, out one time, 563 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: transfer if a coach leaves or, whatever you get a you, 564 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: know an exception Or but the timing of The trump 565 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: thing obviously would really throw a huge wrench in everybody's. 566 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: Plans SO i don't know if that would pass right. 567 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: Away BUT i do think we're gonna need congressional you, 568 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: know support of some sort because the end, YEAH i, 569 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: mean THE ncaa is sitting there saying, like look at 570 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: what you all. Created like everybody wants to blame the 571 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: n and thereby no means. Perfect but what are they gonna. 572 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: Do you, know they're losing every, lawsuit so the only 573 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: way to do it is for somebody to step. In 574 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: because this has turned into pro, sports there is no 575 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: salary cap and you, know just like everybody's annoyed with 576 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: The dodgers right, now like that's the way it's going 577 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: to be in college basketball until somebody fixes. 578 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: It so you, know. 579 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: Hopefully we can get our team together before they exchange 580 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: all these rules because we got our eyes on some. 581 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: Transfers BUT i do, think you, know we NEED dc 582 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: to certainly step in and try to regulate this for 583 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: the AND i feel bad for the other. SPORTS i really. 584 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: WORK i do believe like you're going to start seeing 585 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: other sports cut because schools don't have the money to do. 586 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: It and that's that's not what it's all about. 587 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Either just so you know you're not wasting your time with. 588 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Us this text came in from a hockey guy southside goalie, guy, 589 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: right thank you so much for Having Richard patino. On 590 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: he is. AMAZING i hope you're can have him on more. 591 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: Frequently he is so sincere and humble yet, frank it 592 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: is very refreshing in the crazy landscape of college. Athletics 593 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: how about. That it's quite quite what it's. 594 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: All about right. There that's WHY i did. 595 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: It that's. IT i, knew you. 596 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: KNEW i will, SAY i will say WHEN i see 597 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: people From, minnesota nobody ever brings up my my you, 598 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: know historic N it championship or my TWO ncaa. Tournaments 599 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time they say to, me 600 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: we Loved Joan. Morera oh, thanks Maybe i'll get into 601 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: radio When i'm out of. 602 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: Coach well that you're going to be able to do 603 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: that if you want to at some later, date and 604 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: then you won't have to worry about snarky columnists and 605 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: talk show hosts questioning Why patino didn't take the time 606 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: out or why squandered this. Situation then you would just 607 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: be the one doing all the snarky. Stuff that's the 608 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: beauty of. 609 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: It it's it's a lot of, fun isn't. 610 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: It. 611 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: Really that's why you guys have been able to do 612 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: it for thirty years or. 613 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: More you're, right good to catch, up my, FRIEND i 614 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: do really do. It appreciate the, time and we'll try 615 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: to stay in. Touch Thanks, Richard all, right thank you 616 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: guys much appreciate. It Richard, patino Former gopher men's basketball 617 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: coach now At, xavier went, long but it's impossible not 618 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: to go long when you have a guest as good 619 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: As Richard. Patino Doctor dan's inbox that just might be 620 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: coming up. Now we will Monitor You're Minnesota twins home 621 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: opener for whatever that is. Worth late, start BUT i 622 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: believe they're through two innings, now about four miles from 623 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: our location here In. St Louis, Park twins trailing The 624 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Tampa Bay rays to nothing early to Nil 625 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: bailey over on the mound for your favorite baseball. Team 626 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna get at least One Doctor dan's inbox letter. 627 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: In we're gonna get caught up because we went along 628 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: With Richard. Patino but keep the letters. Coming there's still 629 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: time to offer your. Contributions jade at kfen dot. 630 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: Com it's time for, you Doctor. 631 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: Dan it has been said with great power comes great. 632 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: Responsibility believe you, me we have great. Power while losing 633 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 4: a sponsorship for the M Wild arena was, tough we 634 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 4: didn't take the opportunity to be, petty but yet honored 635 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: that responsibility by a similar yet different side of the same. 636 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: Coin we felt it was our responsibility to protect good 637 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: Natured minnesotan's from not good. Baseball how plot, foiled but 638 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: we certainly tried this FROM X, ENERGY. 639 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: I want to fill people in them what? Happened the implication, 640 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: there the suggestion is that the power failure that hit 641 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Target field and that part of, downtown but mainly Target 642 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: field starting at or is it just passed? Two it 643 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: was just before that ran around tree round two and 644 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: the way before. That that got a lot of people's 645 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: attention and ultimately forced the delay of the regular start 646 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: time in the, opener WHICH i think was supposed to 647 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: be three, fifteen, yeah tel four, five whatever it. Was 648 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: it gets moved back to four h five for that. 649 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: Reason and it is one of those, Jokes, wait The 650 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: twins for their home opener have a power. Failure you 651 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: really can't make this stuff, Up and, no you really. 652 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: Can't and in this, case you didn't have to make it. 653 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: Up so everybody became shaky. Green everybody did their cheap 654 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: jokes about, oh power, Failure. Twins, yeah that makes some. 655 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,959 Speaker 1: SENSE i went with the old reliable good news and bad. 656 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: News the good news is the power has been restored 657 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: at Target. Field the bad news is the target has been. 658 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: RESTORED i should say the power has been restored at target. 659 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Field so we've all done, it And i'm not. Surprised 660 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: we also got some letters to that. Effect, now early 661 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: indications are maybe The twins would have invented off of the 662 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: longer power, failure but the problem, was you gotta get 663 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: this game. In we got no off. Days so as it, 664 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: is the betting money is tomorrow's game might well be 665 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: postponed into A sunday double header because the forecast is 666 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: not very encouraging for. Tomorrow whether there is power or, 667 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: NOT i will, say Doctor dan will say based on 668 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: the crowd Shots i've, seen The lavelle prediction of maybe 669 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: as many as thirty thousand in the arena seems a 670 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: bit shall we say silver linings. Ish i'm not SURE 671 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: i see quite that many, people ALTHOUGH i do like 672 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: the is this a? Giveaway the beautiful people's seats behind home, 673 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: plate the heat they're all, wearing the kind of a 674 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: powder Blue twins beat ski gaps almost, YES i like. 675 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: Those those look pretty. Nice actually that's for? Today was 676 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: that A? Okay that was? 677 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: IT i think they're aware of the weather potential that 678 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 4: it could be today the two dollars beers apparently have been. 679 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: EXTENDED i don't, know but is that already? Over was 680 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: just the first two? Innings, okay so that's. Over the 681 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: reality is setting in and we've Got Junior commonado at 682 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: the plate right now For Tampa Bay Tampa, bay and 683 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: he is wearing over his mouth and nose the kind 684 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: of almost ski gear that one might expect going down Buck. 685 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: Hill he is very well protected from the elements that 686 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: apparently are rather. 687 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: Chilly when we come, back we have letters from K, 688 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 4: cousins a silver and, yeah just a few from t 689 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: poland had a hunch. 690 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: It's time for a doctor in, Box. 691 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Nancy box part. Two i'm assuming eventually we are 692 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: going to have a top five at. Five are you? 693 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: Ready we'll have more details on the latest news Regarding Anthony, 694 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: edwards which is he should be available, tonight right after 695 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: earlier being listed as, questionable he is. Available is that 696 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: what we were hearing. 697 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: About thirty minutes? Ago that was the latest injury. UPDATE 698 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 4: i think the injury update comes out. 699 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: One about two and a half hours before the. Game 700 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: that's ninety minutes before and by the, way that, game 701 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: we're out of six Four wolves basketball action, Dateline, Philadelphia. 702 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 4: Pennsylvania, Frank, yes dear Doctor, dan where's the? Obligatory we 703 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 4: didn't need? 704 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: Him tweet. 705 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 4: Guests THE qb whisper didn't want me, back but as, 706 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 4: always found another, SUCKER i mean team to back up 707 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: the brinks. Truck this From Kay. Cousins here's what's interesting 708 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 4: about that. 709 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: SIGNING i have, heard, well in, FACT i think it 710 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: Was church Of. Church, now, Remember church Of church is 711 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: A cousin's. Apologist He's cousins condo coiner with me from the. Beginning. 712 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: Yep but be that as it. May he's also a 713 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: very knowledgeable football reporter and, guy so he believes it's 714 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: likely That cousins will start the opening game of the 715 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six regular season for The. Raiders Had i'll 716 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: be honest with, you that had not even occurred to. 717 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: ME i assumed that with all the hubbub and all 718 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: the pedigree involved with The indiana Guy, mendoza that the 719 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: plan for The, raiders knowing that they've got really nothing at, 720 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: stake is that we're going to invest and believe In 721 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: mendoza from the. Beginning but maybe that's a more sensible 722 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: approach and the beauty of it With mendoza is he's 723 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: not going to demand a. TRADE i don't know there's 724 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: any reason to believe he's gonna lose his. Mind he's 725 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: not the. Starter but isn't that one of the more intriguing, 726 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: questions Whether cousins was brought in there to, Compete Whether 727 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: cousins was brought in to be sort, of you, know 728 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: The jedi night guy to work with, them or whether 729 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: he's flat out Saying i'm going to be the starter 730 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 1: and hopefully the kid will get a chance to play 731 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: somewhere down the road this. 732 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 4: SEASON i just love the fact that The Raiders Entertainment 733 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 4: network has to do something with those two on the 734 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 4: strip somewhere like those two just living The Las vegas. 735 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 4: SLIFE i call It hangover four and enough said tonight 736 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 4: nine THIRTY. M fox nine plus ten THIRTY M fox 737 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: nine after multiple sports mm. Hmm don't you want to 738 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 4: see those two do something In? Vegas it just seems 739 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 4: like such a funny. 740 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: Mix it, is and, they by the, way are perfectly, matched, 741 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: right absolutely and absolutely you cannot get from a cultural, 742 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: STANDPOINT i don't think you could get a better match 743 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: than those two. Individuals BUT i am very intrigued to 744 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: see how that goes and how quickly they say to the, 745 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: kid we're going to be the. Guy maybe maybe the 746 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: cautionary tales what happened here and they, said we're not 747 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: going to mess with. That then, AGAIN jj McCarthy is 748 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: too busy playing catch oh boy with one of the. Wins, 749 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: yeah right at A yankee. Stadium at The yankee. Stadium 750 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: do we know what that's? About and was he acting 751 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: as nine there or was he you know who he? 752 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: Is the rest of? 753 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: These? 754 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: SIMPLE? Jj, yeah SIMPLE. Jj i'm not. Sure i'm not 755 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Sure pete's time for. Box you're Doctor. 756 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: DAN i admit the sixty five game rule isn't the perfect, 757 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 4: solution but something needed to. Change my inbox is now 758 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 4: full of letters from disappointed fans who spent their hard 759 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 4: earned money and time going to a game only to 760 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 4: see their favorite players not available due to load management 761 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: or whatever other reason the team can come up. 762 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: With bottom, line players have to. 763 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 4: Play is it asking professional athletes paid millions of dollars 764 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: to play in sixty five eighty two games to be 765 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 4: considered for postseason? 766 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: Awards is that too? Much Doctor? DAN a Silver, No 767 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be too, much AND i Have docord has 768 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: been fairly critical of A, silver not quite as tough 769 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: as the legendary D, Stern but on this ONE i 770 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 1: have to give A silver credit that he isn't curling 771 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: up in the fetal position despite pressure about What these 772 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: are some guys who don't deserve to lose out on 773 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: some of these postseason. Awards these guys are legitimately hurt 774 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: and it's not, fair and we have to redo the. 775 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: System so, far it appears that A silver is standing 776 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: tall and saying it is what it. Is we think 777 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: overall it's, working AND i agree with, them and if 778 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately some deserving players lose some, HONORS i got to 779 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: have minimum five years of evidence that that rule is 780 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: no longer, needed that we no longer need to implement 781 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: the sixty five game. Rule the rule exists not because 782 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: of the, league not because of fans, complaining but because 783 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: of players not being out there often. Enough. Whatever that 784 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: inner mechanism is that once upon a time demanded that 785 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: we are paid to, play As Michael jordan often, said is, 786 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: gone and as long until it can be re established as, 787 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: automatic the commissioner has nothing to apologize for it's. 788 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: Time for akinbox. 789 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: Do Doctor? Dann are you sure that last guest was Our? 790 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 4: Patino his answered were so, measured AND i don't think 791 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: he ripped anyone the whole, time but gave you great lengthy. 792 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 4: Answers he sounded like, Me are you sure you didn't get? 793 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: Pranked this from ky O'Connell talking a long? Time anybody 794 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: hold on a. Minute That first of, all that's. Pst, 795 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 4: secondly that's a that's a cheap shot On Richard. 796 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: Patino Richard patino can fill up an answer with. Substance 797 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: but at the end of, IT i don't feel Like 798 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: i'm going. On BUT i just. Hear i'm not sure 799 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: the question got. Answered he answers the questions the next. Question, 800 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: sorry he he just. Does and AGAIN i love. Koc 801 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: he's been good to this. Show he's. Appable brought you 802 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: water the one time, Water it brought me the fancy. 803 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: Water who knows what he's gonna probably gonna bring me 804 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: hemlock this, year something. POISON i don't. Know but so 805 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: it's it's not, that it's just that it's a different. 806 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: Style it's a different. Approach and, NO I i Think Richard, 807 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: PATINO i don't think there's word salad With Richard patino at. All, 808 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: now you, know it doesn't mean you have to agree 809 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: with him on everything he, said BUT i think he 810 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: gives substance of, answers and that's What i'd like to 811 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: get a little bit more of FROM. Tco that's just. 812 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: Me i'm a Puristes, okay, dude not your damn. 813 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: All Excell Energy center Or Excell energy may have left 814 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: us and cause the delay to The twins who are 815 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 4: already eliminated from playoffs from in the home, opener guess 816 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 4: who's in the. 817 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: Playoffs that's, right the team who is truly. 818 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 4: Electric not to, mention we have a writer and M 819 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 4: russo who never has phone issues that FROM C. 820 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 1: Leopold from Ce Leopold. Leopold, yeah well that is. True 821 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: we rarely Have russo phone, issues do We? NEVER i 822 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: think that's really ever. Happened, Never SO i don't know 823 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: how to explain. IT i don't think there is any 824 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: explaining L neil in that. Sense and, yeah, one let's face. 825 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: IT i think we would be disappointed if we had 826 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: no phone issues with, him don't. You it's weird when we. 827 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: DON'T i think we will be very down about the 828 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 1: about the whole. Thing but that's all. True and, yes Doctor, 829 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: dan cannot wait for the. Postseason cannot. Wait dear Doctor, 830 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: dan you didn't believe, Us you thought we were making it. 831 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: Up maybe now you'll believe us when we tell you 832 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: we're not making. Money electric bills cost, Money Doctor. 833 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 4: Dan we scraped by, today but we have a sewer 834 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 4: payment coming up, tomorrow and you don't want to know 835 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 4: what happens when we can't pay. 836 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: That that from t pole At, yeah there been a 837 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: lot of the this has been a low it's a 838 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: it's a low hanging Fruit friday on The Friday Football. 839 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: Beast and what happens then is everybody when when when 840 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: there's the low hanging fruit of an opening day home opening, 841 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 1: day The twins suffer a power failure at Target, field 842 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: everybody turns Into Schecky, green whether they're funny or, not 843 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: and they there's a lot of stating the. Obvious there's 844 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot of those kinds of. Jokes some of them are, 845 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: clever some of them are. Not BUT i, think, sadly 846 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: if the truth be, told The twins are getting exactly 847 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: what they might expect and what they deserve let me. 848 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 4: Give you this, one dear Doctor, dan because everybody has 849 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 4: a little bit different. 850 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 1: Twists, yes they think they. Do they're pretty. Good, YEAH 851 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: i just don't know what fans expect of. 852 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 4: Us you can't expect me to pay for both league 853 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 4: minimum relievers and the power bill like mush like. 854 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: MONEYBALL i prefer to keep the money on the. Field 855 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: why do we need lights for a day? 856 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 3: Game? 857 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 4: Anyway, ps this little beer promotion has cost me, hundreds 858 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 4: but at least NOW i can fire the guy who proposed. 859 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: It that from t Pole. ED i, wonder do we 860 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: have any idea what during the, season let's, say at 861 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: a game, day what the power bill is At? TARGETFIELD 862 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: i have no. Idea there's got to be somebody out 863 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: there with some insight knowledge, there AND i don't want 864 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: it to be somebody from The twins because they'll low 865 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: ball the. Number they won't tell us the, truth just 866 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: like they lowball everything. Else, well, no actually to be the, 867 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: opposite right then they would inflate. IT i wonder what 868 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: that bill is to power the ballpark on a game? Day? 869 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: Now is there a big difference between powering the ballpark 870 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: on a game day where there's three thousand people in 871 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: the seats compared to thirty. Thousand how much does that 872 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: raise the? Bill i'd bet probably not much because you 873 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: still got to have all the lights on. Concessions, yeah 874 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: it's just stuff that more might be more used when 875 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: there's more. PEOPLE i don't. Know, YEAH i guess that 876 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: was water. Bill, yeah toilets used more to? Me, yeah, yeah, 877 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: yeah that's that's What i'm. Thinking, yes. Exactly somebody will tell. 878 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 4: Us last one in the walk, Up dear Doctor dan 879 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 4: always ball fake before throwing a pass through. Defenders this 880 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 4: from C a the Other, boozero. 881 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: Well. 882 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: Played can't argue with. It here's what we. Got we 883 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: Got Ben guestling at five point. Thirty we're out at six. 884 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: Form Minnesota timberwolves Basketball guardgie is back with some injury 885 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: updates on Your wolves. Club i'm guessing a little detail 886 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: on what Your minnesota whild did last night to clinch 887 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 1: you got it all and who knows what else stands 888 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: updates from Target. Fields, oh even, better