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Speaker 2: Ray, I'm doll you Boston's news radio Jeze l.

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Speaker 3: Let's hope that's not true. Drake may not practicing. Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, wouldn't that be a downer? Who Well, maybe

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Speaker 3: not in the same category. But I have a story

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Speaker 3: it's one that I really do want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: So I read both my Boston Globe and my Boston

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Speaker 3: Herald this morning and there was a story written by

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Speaker 3: the Harold Staff. And if you haven't read the two newspapers,

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Speaker 3: and if you haven't heard this story and you're driving now,

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Speaker 3: I would ask you to please pull over to the

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Speaker 3: side of the road because this is going to be

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Speaker 3: a shocking story. Then if you're at home, and if

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Speaker 3: you're standing, please sit down, because I don't want anyone

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Speaker 3: to this is a shocking story, Okay, And I'm speaking seriously.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying. This is not a set up here.

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Speaker 3: But I think all of us in New England have

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Speaker 3: at some point in our lives enjoyed a bag or

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Speaker 3: a few, or maybe more than a few cape cord

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Speaker 3: potato chips. They are a They're an institution on the Cape.

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Speaker 3: They have a plant in Hyenas. Cape Cod chips, according

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Speaker 3: to the Globe, have been around for quite a while.

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Speaker 3: They actually at one point used to host visitors at

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Speaker 3: the Hyenas factory after it opened in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 3: According to John Element's article, now this is what's wrong

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Speaker 3: with America. Okay, this is what's wrong, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: with America. You have this Massachusetts institution and it really

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Speaker 3: is I mean, how many things do we have here?

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Speaker 3: Boston Baked Beans, Yeah, okay, there's not a company that

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Speaker 3: I know of that produces there. It's Boston Baked Beans,

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots, the Boston Red Sox, the Boston Bruins,

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Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics, Boston Revolution or New England Revolution. Those

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Speaker 3: are all, you know, part of Boston or New England.

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Speaker 3: So cape Cod chips potato chips, and I like them.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're really good, really goodato, good quality. A

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Speaker 3: little more expensive than they should be, but they're good quality.

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Speaker 3: They have decided. First of all, I didn't know this.

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Speaker 3: Cape Cod Chips are not owned by the company cape Cod.

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Speaker 3: They're owned by Campbell's, you know, the company better known

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Speaker 3: for Campbell's soup, and I guess they also do pork

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Speaker 3: and beans. It's a big conglomerate. It was sold I

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Speaker 3: guess several years ago. They are closing the cape Cod

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Speaker 3: chip factory in Hyannas. Forty nine people are going to

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Speaker 3: lose their jobs. Forty nine people are going to lose

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Speaker 3: their jobs and cape cod potato chips. According to both

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Speaker 3: The Herald and the Globe, it was announced by Campbell's

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Speaker 3: yesterday that it's going to shut down the only cape

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Speaker 3: Cod potato chip facility in New England, the only cape

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Speaker 3: cod potato chip facility on Cape Cod, eliminating forty nine jobs.

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Speaker 3: Which again, you know, it's forty nine families who are

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Speaker 3: losing jobs. But even worse the moving production to facilities

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Speaker 3: in states like North Carolina, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Now, I

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Speaker 3: don't know about you, but nothing says cape Cod potato

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Speaker 3: chips more than them being produced in North Carolina, Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: or Pennsylvania. It almost is completely sacrilegious. It would be

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Speaker 3: as if the New England Patriots moved from New England

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Speaker 3: just lockstock and barrel and pick a town, pick a state,

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Speaker 3: anywhere they moved to Kentucky and became the Louisville Patriots.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. I don't know what this says about.

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Speaker 3: Campbell's says to me a lot. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: they used to have a they used to have a

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Speaker 3: the factory, you know, on those rainy summer days. Never

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Speaker 3: took advantage of it. But I guess when COVID came

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Speaker 3: they stopped the tours. That should have been an indication.

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Speaker 3: In John Ellman's Piecies says the factory tours were halted

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Speaker 3: during COVID nineteen and have not resumed before that. The

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Speaker 3: factory was a popular stop for tourists in days when

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Speaker 3: that they would get two hundred and fifty thousand people

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Speaker 3: factory in Hyenas. So I think this is an absolute abomination.

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Speaker 3: Once they leave, as a matter of fact, I may

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Speaker 3: decide forthwith I'm done with Cape card chips. I like

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Speaker 3: Cape card chips a bit different. I think they're probably

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Speaker 3: more healthy than others. But I at this point I

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Speaker 3: am just appalled that a product that is known because

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Speaker 3: the potato chip, cape Cod should not be produced in

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Speaker 3: places like wonderful places North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. Many of

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Speaker 3: have nothing against those parts of the country. Okay, they're wonderful,

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Speaker 3: but cape Cod chips should not be there. I just

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Speaker 3: want to open this up. There was one comment made,

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Speaker 3: and you can agree with it or disagree with it,

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Speaker 3: but this was made by a representative of the Massachusetts

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Speaker 3: Fiscal Alliance, and it's a pretty good statement. Massachusetts cannot

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Speaker 3: even keep cape Cod potato ships in cape Cod. It

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Speaker 3: should say on cape Cod. But I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: quibble over a preposition. When a company whose entire identity

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Speaker 3: economic sense to operate here, that should set off alarm

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Speaker 3: bells on Beacon Hill and I realize it's it's been

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Speaker 3: whittled down to forty nine jobs. In one of the

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Speaker 3: articles that I read, it said that the hyenas plant

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Speaker 3: now only produces four percent of Cape Card branded products,

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Speaker 3: and according to Campbell's it makes no sense, no financial

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Speaker 3: sense to maintain Campbell's. You have screwed it up totally.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think I'm going to

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Speaker 3: personally boycott all Campbell's products. This is I think this

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Speaker 3: is horrific. I think it's horrific for the state. I

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Speaker 3: think it's horrific for cape Cod. I think it's it's

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Speaker 3: more symbolic than substantive. I mean, it's not like they're

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Speaker 3: closing a plant that has been producing cape cord ships. No,

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Speaker 3: they've whittled away with it at it over the years.

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Speaker 3: If you share your outrage, please give me a call.

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Speaker 3: If you think I'm overstating this. This is the cape

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Speaker 3: Cod chips. I never realized that cape Cod chips were

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Speaker 3: made anywhere other than on cape Cod. Now you may

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Speaker 3: you may say to me, well, you should read the

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Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal every day from cover to cover, and

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Speaker 3: you would have known when Campbell's took over or whatever

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Speaker 3: bought a majority share. No, I'm appalled by it, as

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Speaker 3: simple as that. This one really kicks me in the gut.

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Speaker 3: cape Cod chips, howling outrage. If if you're not, You

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Speaker 3: should be indignant that this company so associated with Cape

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Speaker 3: cod has basically said we're pulling up everything, all the roots, everything,

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Speaker 3: lock stock and barrel and potatoes and heading west and south.

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Speaker 3: This is not a good sign for Massachusetts whatsoever. And

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Speaker 3: I would love to know if our whatever department deals

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Speaker 3: numbers back after this on Nightside.

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Speaker 2: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 3: So I want to talk about Cape competato chips, because

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Speaker 3: again I'm not an expert in the area. But this

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Speaker 3: this was founded by two guys, Steve Bernard and his

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Speaker 3: brother Jude, making the with the idea of having healthier

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Speaker 3: potato chips. Okay, so, but of course it gets picked

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Speaker 3: up by big companies company. It was a founded in

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, acquired by Anheuser Busch in nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 3: and operated a division of its Eagle Snacks unit. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they reached each East coast. They were six selling sixteen

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Speaker 3: million dollars in potato chips annually. Bernard bought the company

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Speaker 3: and the factory back from anheuser Busch in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: six with some sort of a venture capital company. Snack

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Speaker 3: Food then bought the food company, which was Lance incorporated

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Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety nine, by which time annual sales had

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Speaker 3: almost doubled. They were the thirty million. It's still not,

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Speaker 3: you know, fabulous, but it's solid. In twenty ten, Lance

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Speaker 3: merged with Snyders of Hanover. I think of them as

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Speaker 3: a pretzel company. And then Campbell Soup would lat It

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Speaker 3: go on to acquire Snyder's Lance in twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 3: of course that's is So it's like these companies eat

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Speaker 3: each other up. But in the meantime they're selling the

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Speaker 3: potato chips to people in Massachusetts. We built the company

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Speaker 3: of those of us who bought potato chips, and they're gone.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to North Carolina. What does it say

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Speaker 3: about Massachusetts. I don't think it says anything good. Let's

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Speaker 3: go to Diane and Maldon. Diane, this one, this one

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Speaker 3: bothers me. What's what's your take on it?

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Speaker 4: It bothers me too. It's a travesty. They should not

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Speaker 4: be able to call them cape CRD potato chips any longer.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm with cap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all the good will that they have. And when

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Speaker 3: these companies buy, they buy you know, the building, the

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Speaker 3: called goodwill. Now I think that geographic gid goodwill should

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Speaker 3: not be transferable.

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Speaker 5: I really may agree.

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Speaker 4: And I'm looking at a bag right now. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: nowhere on it doesn't say it's owned by Campbell's. Of course,

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Speaker 4: connglirmerates never say that. It just says distributed by cape

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Speaker 4: Cod one hundred breeds Hole Road. So now they're not

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Speaker 4: gonna if they're not going to have that place, they're

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Speaker 4: not going to even be able to say distributed by

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that, in terms of honesty and advertising,

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Speaker 3: that currently or recently, only four percent of the cape

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Speaker 3: that in terms of fairness and advertising, if that bag

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Speaker 3: of chips was manufactured in Hyannas. Let it say it,

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Speaker 3: but they should not be able to say put that

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Speaker 3: on everything just because it says Cape Cord chips if

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Speaker 3: they've already moved a lot of the manufacturing to North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And guess what, maybe from a business

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Speaker 3: From a business point of view, and I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to try to interfere with it, but I gotta tell

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Speaker 3: you it's going to change my mind buying habits as

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Speaker 3: a customer. The thing about Cape Cod chips, they seemed

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Speaker 3: to me. I'm not an expert, but they seem to

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Speaker 3: me to be a healthier snack. I'm sure, like any

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Speaker 3: potato chip, they're probably not really a healthy snack, but

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Speaker 3: they seem to me to be healthier and less greasy

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Speaker 3: than a lot of the other potato.

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Speaker 4: Chips that I agree with you. I think it's the

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Speaker 4: manufacturing process because they're like the crunchiest there, and I

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Speaker 4: agree with you, they're not greasy. But one thing that

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Speaker 4: I did notice because I recently purchased two bags because

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Speaker 4: they were on sales stopping shop and I got one

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Speaker 4: that I never got before, which is I think it's cheddar,

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Speaker 4: white cheddar or something. Okay, I never had them before.

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Speaker 4: And I opened the bag day before yesterday, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, those to me did not seem to be

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Speaker 4: the same chip, the same basic chip that did not

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Speaker 4: have the same level of crunch at all.

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Speaker 3: It was this pack. Was this package just Cape? Was

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Speaker 3: this package just Cape caught chips?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go down and look at it right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I believe you. I believe you. Yeah so,

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Speaker 3: But but you said there was another.

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, it's a I've never purchased it before.

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Speaker 4: Because it's fat.

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Speaker 6: And that's a totally totally different animal.

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Speaker 6: And oh yeah, exactly after the chip you have that

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Speaker 4: Well I'm outraged as well, and I am going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I don't even look at it

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Speaker 3: now that says cape card chips, cape card potato chips

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Speaker 3: Diane and me petty. But I don't think it's petty

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Speaker 3: at all. I think it's principled, simple. Thank you, Diane,

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: How are you, Rob?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, how are you?

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Speaker 5: Dan?

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Speaker 3: I'm a little crestfallen at the moment. I've never used

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Speaker 1: It's great work. It's a great work. Yeah, No, I

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Speaker 1: the fact that I think they're manufactured in Tape God

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Speaker 3: One of them, one of them bought it back. You know,

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Speaker 3: I get that. I totally get that, but I look

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Speaker 1: Well what about Nantucket nectars, Like, do we know where

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Speaker 1: that's manufactured now? Because I don't. I don't starting Nantucket. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean the chances are that they probably sold

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so now we're.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, But guess what, I didn't know

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Speaker 3: I was in blissful ignorance every time a bag of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand. I mean I would buy them based

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Speaker 1: And if the package says that it's made in Cape God,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. But so therefore maybe they probably look, they have lawyers,

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Speaker 3: and they probably say, hey, as long as a certain

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Speaker 5: Most people want.

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Speaker 1: Your point is that it's more of indictment of the

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that we have the mass but

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Speaker 3: And I think that's something that either Governor Healey or

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Speaker 3: But I'll put that aside. This is something that's symbolic

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have an NFL team. Now that's never gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Do you hold it against Campbell's for making the business decision?

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Speaker 3: I don't like Campbell's. I don't like big companies. To

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Speaker 1: I mean put Campbell's aside just if you are you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm putting Campbell's aside. The question is do you

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I get itbel'stop that. No, No,

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Speaker 3: I don't. Philosophically, I don't. Okay, I'm not a knucklehead.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that if you're losing money, you have

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Speaker 3: that at all. But I don't think they were losing

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Speaker 3: Stick by the company and change the name. Just like

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Speaker 3: There are a bunch of people, I guess in Brooklyn

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Speaker 3: So Walter O'Malley took the Dodgers to Los Angeles and

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Speaker 3: he kept the nickname. I think that they probably know

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Speaker 3: the The Oakland A's used to be the Philadelphia A's,

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Speaker 3: they became the Kansas City A's, then they became the

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Speaker 3: Oakland A's, and now they're gonna probably become the last

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Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Aces or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know's I guess. My point is that whoever

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Speaker 1: the two guys were the start at the company, they

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Speaker 1: sold the brand and they sold the goodwill whomever was

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Speaker 1: paying top dollar to do what they will with. So

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Speaker 1: like I understand like your emotional point of view, but

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Speaker 1: from a business standpoint, I don't. I don't see right anything.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, let me tell you, Bob, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you all I'm just saying that as

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Speaker 3: a consumer, now I can react and other consumers can react.

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Speaker 3: And if you're gonna sell a product that's manufactured in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

447
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Speaker 3: and North Carolina, you know, call it if you if

448
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Speaker 3: you manufactured in North Carolina, call it the Outer Bank chips.

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Speaker 3: Simple as that.

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Speaker 9: You know, aren't there a ton of brands out there

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Speaker 9: that have like monikers that had nothing to do with

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Speaker 9: where they manufactured, like I used Malibu rams as like.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean Wise Potato chips, which is I'm sure

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Speaker 3: they used to use an owl because remember that that

455
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: was their uh, their little creature, because you were wise.

456
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: If you ate Wise Potato chips, that's all marketing, that's marketing.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is you're now going to take

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Speaker 3: Cape Cod chips and move them out of New England.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm talking about it tonight, and I hope

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Speaker 3: more people join the conversation. Okay, Robert, philosophically, you and

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Speaker 3: I are on the same page. Thank you, my friend,

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Speaker 3: Take you soon. Okay, okay, fine, all right, here comes

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Speaker 3: the news. We went way past the news here. I

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Speaker 3: apologize for that. As you can tell, I feel strongly

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Speaker 3: about this and we're going to cut this off at

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock. I have another topic that I want to

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Speaker 3: talk about at ten o'clock. So please, if you want

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Speaker 3: to weigh in on this, don't wait. Dial now six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 3: ten thirty or six one. We'll just filled up here.

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Speaker 3: Now you can dial six one, seven, nine thirty. Coming

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Speaker 3: back on.

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Speaker 2: Night Side Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go too. And Daryl in Canada, Hey, Daryl,

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Speaker 3: do you get cake God chips up in Canada?

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Speaker 7: Uh, we don't, but we have a similar product called

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Speaker 7: covered Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Their old their old kennl Pot chips.

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Speaker 3: Take that. Okay, this.

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Speaker 7: And uh but yeah, it's a They had a similar

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Speaker 7: problem with chips. And the reason they may be doing

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Speaker 7: this is in order to get into differ markets around

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Speaker 7: the country. They would have sold off into that company.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I don't know that that's it at all, Darrel,

485
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Speaker 3: to be honest with you. The original owners of the

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Speaker 3: company sold a long time ago. There's been several, you know,

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Speaker 3: food companies that have at different points owned the name

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Speaker 3: of the company and the product and the packaging of

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Speaker 3: the company has remained the same, and there's been a

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Speaker 3: consistency about it. They used to give tours to people

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Speaker 3: who came and visited Cape Cod. It was it was

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Speaker 3: really identified with Cape Cod. And I don't know how

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Speaker 3: much of an impact that has in other markets, either

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Speaker 3: in the in the US or in Canada, but it's

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Speaker 3: very popular here in New England. And again part of

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Speaker 3: that popularity relates to the fact that it's a local,

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Speaker 3: local brand. Cape Cod Chips would be like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you know, New Brunswick Chips or whatever, and then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden you find that New Brunswick Chip is

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Speaker 3: going to be moved out of New Bunch, Brunswick and

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be manufacturing in Ontario.

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Speaker 7: Well, I agree, because the draw to cape Cod itself

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Speaker 7: and if something's actually manufactured there, that's that's what you're

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Speaker 7: going for, right.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, and there's just the identification and there

506
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Speaker 3: are a lot of people who, you know, in the

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Speaker 3: middle of wintery open up a bag of cape Cod

508
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Speaker 3: chips and it reminds you, Okay, summer, we'll come back.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's now January, but a few months it'll

510
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Speaker 3: be May and June and will be on the cusp

511
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Speaker 3: of summer. So this is kind of a romanticism about it.

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Speaker 3: But they're going to sell off to some company, and

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Speaker 3: they're going to expect those of us in New England

514
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Speaker 3: to continue to support this company even though the cape

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Speaker 3: Cord chips are going to be manufacturing in North Carolina,

516
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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. I mean, you call them Green Bay

517
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Speaker 3: Packer chips, and it's if they manufactured in Wisconsin or well.

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Speaker 7: One of your prior guests also mentioned about the flavored

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Speaker 7: and when you have different places, different altitudes, the flavors

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Speaker 7: changed just where it's cooked.

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Speaker 3: I'm unfamiliar with that. I'm not a chef. I'm not

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Speaker 3: You probably know a lot more about that stuff than

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Speaker 3: I do, Darryl. I wouldn't. I wouldn't try to agree

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Speaker 3: or contradict you, because, yeah, I'm sure that there are

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Speaker 3: some differences, but Cape Cord chips were consistent every package

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Speaker 3: that I've ever had of Cape Cord SCHIPs. I could

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Speaker 3: have closed my eyes and said, Okay, is that a

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Speaker 3: cape Cord ship or not. It's like the people can

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Speaker 3: tell the duce between pepsi and coke. But it's just

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Speaker 3: it again, as they say, you want to move the

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Speaker 3: our our chips in Cape Cod you want to move

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Speaker 3: to call them package chips in if they're manufactured in Wisconsin,

533
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Speaker 3: and if they're if they're in a manufacturing in in Pennsylvania,

534
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Speaker 3: call them pirate chips or something like that.

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Speaker 7: So the well, there there could be an opportunity for

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Speaker 7: somebody else to open up a chip company as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, sure there are, but at the same time they

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be able then to I'm sure the name cape

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Speaker 3: Cod is the property of the owners of the company,

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Speaker 3: so it's not as if someone can sneak in there

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Speaker 3: and steal the use of the name. It's just this's

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Speaker 3: just something slimy about this, Darryl. That's all it's. It's

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Speaker 3: I'm just.

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Speaker 7: Saying it's corporate. Yeah, theaholders right.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and I understand that. I do understand that.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a million ways to make money for

547
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Speaker 3: corporations to make money, but to steal, to steal a

548
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Speaker 3: company or to buy a company that its entire identity

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Speaker 3: is with a small little section of the part of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 3: which is a small state, cape Cod. And now I'm

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Speaker 3: going to move to North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in

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Speaker 3: total whole, I'm not going to miss an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: talk about that in the radio, and I hope people

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Speaker 3: agree with me, but we'll see. Maybe people don't care.

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Speaker 7: One of the best stories I still recall is Hershey, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 7: where the gentleman started up the bank, the school, everything right, and.

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Speaker 3: You say so, I agree, I go ahead, tell me

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Speaker 3: the story.

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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 7: Well what it is, mister Hershey. My understanding, he was

560
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Speaker 7: an orphan and he actually had an orphanage there as well,

561
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 7: and all the chocolates even during during wartime. He kept

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Speaker 7: everybody employed during the depression, and my understanding, a wonderful story.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't have much to do with cape caught chips.

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Speaker 7: Well, hopefully it can start something down there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe, Thanks Daryl, appreciate it. You got to

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Speaker 3: be cold up there. Stay warm, man, it's good. Summer's

567
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Speaker 3: on its way.

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Speaker 7: Okay, it's so cold up here. We have ice on

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Speaker 7: the border.

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Speaker 3: Make sure make sure you sleep with the dog tonight.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you keep it.

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Speaker 7: Got the fireplace going to.

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Speaker 3: Good excellent, Thanks Dary. I'll talk to you soon quick

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Speaker 3: break here on nightside. We'll wrap the hour. Linda in Southwaymoth,

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Speaker 3: Jerry and Malden. If you like to try to get in.

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Speaker 3: I gon't guarantee it, but we're going to change topics

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Speaker 3: at ten o'clock six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, one, seven, nine,

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Speaker 3: three thirty. Back on Nightside.

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Speaker 2: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Jerry and Maldon. Hey, Jerry, you're next

581
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Speaker 3: on Nightside. What's your take on the departure, Uh, the

582
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Speaker 3: imminent departure of Cape Cod Chips.

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Speaker 8: Good evening, good frigid Boston area.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope you're indoors at least.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I am indoors. No reason to go out unless

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Speaker 8: you have to take. My opinion is this is just

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Speaker 8: part of the business and people moving out of state.

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Speaker 8: This is the result of the policies of Governor Healy,

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Speaker 8: Speaker Mariano, Senate Leader Spoker. It's just too expensive in Massachusetts. Taxes,

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Speaker 8: a high income taxes, a high sales tax, a high

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Speaker 8: property taxes, a high gas tax for heating is the

592
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Speaker 8: third highest in the country. Electric rates are the fifth

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Speaker 8: highest in the country. Those are because of all the

594
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Speaker 8: add ons and the restrictions to keep low cost energy out. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: this is this is not the only business that's recently

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Speaker 8: moved out of Massachusetts, and I believe there's going to

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Speaker 8: be more.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm concerned about the trend as they say. I

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Speaker 3: was focused tonight on the identity of the company. If

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Speaker 3: this was some company there was, you know, named crunch

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Speaker 3: Ole of Potato Chips or you know you.

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Speaker 8: I understand what you're saying. I think it's a shame

603
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Speaker 8: to lose those businesses, especially with something that's tied to Massachusetts.

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Speaker 8: I have taken a tour of that facility, but it

605
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Speaker 8: was probably fifteen twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Someone told me, and I never took a tour with

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Speaker 3: my kids, and although we've spent time in the Cape,

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00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: but someone told me that the tour was pretty good

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Speaker 3: and that at the end the time, at the end

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Speaker 3: of it where everybody got a small package of Cape

611
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 3: Corpetada chips, which was great public relations. It was brilliant.

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Speaker 3: And they said that they were upwards before the pandemic

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty, before the COVID nineteen pandemic, they had

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Speaker 3: like two hundred and fifty thousand people per year taking

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Speaker 3: the tour. That's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, most of those are probably the summer tourists. You know,

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Speaker 8: not all from Massachusetts, if you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: So that's probably why the brand was able to spread

619
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Speaker 8: is because of a number of tourists that were there

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Speaker 8: in the summer and became cognizant of the product. And

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Speaker 8: true that other lady talked about some bad chips with

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Speaker 8: you know, flavored stuff. But in the old days, you

623
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Speaker 8: go back ten years or whatever one or even longer.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the only chips they made were real potato chips,

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Speaker 8: not all the flavor stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate stuff. I mean, if I have a

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Speaker 3: my mistake, pick up a bag of sour onion or

628
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Speaker 3: something as like, oh my god, no interesting, you got it? Well, Jerry,

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Speaker 3: our analysis is right of the money. I understand whose

630
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: fault it is. It's the fault of the politicians here

631
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Speaker 3: in Massachusetts who are not a business friendly or business oriented.

632
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: They're looking to figure out ways to take money out

633
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: of people's pockets to buy voters, is what the philosophy

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00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: of some politicians are. And I think it's gone overboard

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Speaker 3: in Massachusetts and we have seen a trend here and

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Speaker 3: I hope that Governor Healy can turn this trend around

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Speaker 3: because it's a it's going to be, it's only going

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00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: to get worse.

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Speaker 8: Simple is that the only way to turn that trend

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00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 8: around is not elector. I don't think she and her,

641
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Speaker 8: not just her. The people that are running the government

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 8: care about that stuff. They have their agenda and that's

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Speaker 8: what they're going to implement.

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Speaker 3: Well again, you you you have a right to your

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Speaker 3: opinion on it. I'm still hope fool that whoever is

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Speaker 3: in power will use that power wisely. So you see,

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Speaker 3: he Jerry, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Let me just take thirty seconds and ask you a question.

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Speaker 8: There was an article and I think it was Today's

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Speaker 8: Globe about the future census in the states that are

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Speaker 8: losing their house seats. Yes, did you see that?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: And if you notice, they tend to be the high

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Speaker 8: tax big blue states California, Illinois.

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Speaker 3: People are moving to Texas and Tennessee and Florida and

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Speaker 3: to some extent New Hampshire. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: Okay, thank you, Thank you much.

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Speaker 3: Sherry, callmore often. Thank you appreciate it. Let me go

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Speaker 3: to Linda in South Weymouth. Linda, we have a lander

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Speaker 3: in North Weymouth. Now we have a lender in South Weymouth.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Linda, That's.

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Speaker 10: Why I added South, so I could be distinguished between them.

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Speaker 10: People say they know record anyways, keeping my cabinet doors

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Speaker 10: unleased by sink open so that pipes don't freeze.

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Speaker 3: It's a good idea, Linda, that's solid thinking. Go right ahead.

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Speaker 10: And I'm also going from baked potato chips. And I'm

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Speaker 10: wondering why a non potato ship company is buying out

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Speaker 10: a potato chip company.

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Speaker 3: Because they're trying to reach other people in the market.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the corporations do that all the time. They diversify,

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Speaker 3: just as when you keep.

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Speaker 10: It in the states, doing that, keep it in the states,

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Speaker 10: like you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you totally. I thank you much. Okay, well, thanks,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much, Lynda. Appreciate it very much. Wrap

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Speaker 3: it up here with John in Boston. John, next on

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Speaker 3: niego right ahead.

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Speaker 5: Hi Dan, Hi Joy. Are nice to talk to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm doing storm move in Boston here. So if you

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Speaker 5: gonna shime in there on the Cape Cod thing, what

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Speaker 5: do you think?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I said, I think it's a big mistake. I get

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Speaker 5: some family up in Cape Cod and uh and uh

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Speaker 5: and uh. I think the previous call I had had

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Speaker 5: a good point about about Cape Card uh Tours and

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Speaker 5: how much business it brought them. Right, even if they

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Speaker 5: we make five percent of the or whatever the percentages

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Speaker 5: of potato chips in Cape Cod, Uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 5: still to keep the name. I mean, it's a great name.

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Speaker 5: And if not, here's my point, change it to like

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Speaker 5: you said, Green Bay, uh.

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Speaker 3: Package Calett's up. I mean, call it cheese head chips.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what you call it, but just don't

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Speaker 3: don't don't manufacture it in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina. And

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Speaker 3: and give the impression that these that these are chips

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Speaker 3: manufacturing in Cape Cod. That's all I'm saying. Call the

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Speaker 3: cheese head chips and see how you do with that.

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Speaker 3: Or if you're in you know, I'm serious, Or if

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Speaker 3: you're in North Carolina and you may call it the

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Speaker 3: outer Bank chips.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, or something, or do something like that, and

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Speaker 5: and and and and if you want to keep Cape

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Speaker 5: cart on the package it and say formally of Cape

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Speaker 5: Cod the Great cape Cod Ships or something like that,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I don't even want to put it into that trouble.

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, take the company, but don't

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Speaker 3: take the identification with Cape Cod that's ours and ours

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Speaker 3: to keep in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 5: Dan, you know know what I think. I think we

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Speaker 5: should get a petition going and and present it to

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Speaker 5: the corporation and show how much that this thing really

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Speaker 5: means to us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll tell you I don't have time to

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Speaker 3: do that. If you want to leave the.

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Speaker 5: Group, please are you sure?

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Speaker 3: Thanks? John, We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 5: Okay, great, Thanks, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you. You get it out of

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Speaker 3: the wire. Okay, we're going to change topics as we

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Speaker 3: moved to the eleven o'clock to the towards the eleven

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Speaker 3: o'clock hour. At eleven tonight, we will do our what

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Speaker 3: grind your gears haven't done that in several months now.

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Speaker 3: But next hour we're going to talk about no shoveling

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Speaker 3: and snow plow etiquette. I think all of you need

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Speaker 3: to weigh in on this one. Coming back on Nightside,