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Speaker 1: It's time for another edition of Mace in your Face now,

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Speaker 1: along with College Football Immortality, Glenn Mason.

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Speaker 2: Here's Dan Burrero.

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Speaker 3: If cafe and the restaurant was still around, would Koc

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Speaker 3: be offended if the menu included the Koc caesar word

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Speaker 3: salad that's from Grant to Maple Grove. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: We have a guy in studio occasionally was could cook

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Speaker 3: up some words salad.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not games. And during the week previow games.

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Speaker 4: I was very sustinct in what I direct, direct and

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Speaker 4: to the point.

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Speaker 2: It might have been an open book, but I got

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Speaker 2: right to the.

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Speaker 3: Point to your detriment. You told me many times, you said,

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Speaker 3: that's one of your biggest regrets, that you told people what.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to hear rather than what they needed to hear. No,

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Speaker 2: I was in I was in need to hear a

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Speaker 2: guy and some guys.

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Speaker 4: Like Jerry kill Yeah, and he was smarter than I was,

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Speaker 4: you know, Kansas guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm like a fox, you know Jersey guys. So the

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Speaker 2: good old boy, good old boy things. And if I

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Speaker 2: had to do.

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Speaker 4: It all day, if I had in a great state

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Speaker 4: of Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell a story all the time.

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Speaker 4: I love to tell him, but you know, Jerry, you'd

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Speaker 4: hear him all the time time Minnesota, basically said Rebecca

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Speaker 4: and there we'll be buried here right in Minnesota. I

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Speaker 4: wan toad you when I'm done coaching, I'm staying right here.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the car and I listened to radio newsflash

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Speaker 4: news alert, Jerry Kill's stepping down.

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Speaker 2: I'm going south and thirty five next to you know,

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Speaker 2: there's Rebecca and Jerry. They went buy me about ninety

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Speaker 2: five miles an hour with the UA. Where are you going?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: But I mean and so here?

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Speaker 3: I was, yeah, I'm still here, so here, Yeah, picking

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Speaker 3: up the pieces.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's very very true. But I was not a

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Speaker 2: word sellary guy. You are.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of I'm kind of tersts sometimes and right

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Speaker 4: to the point.

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Speaker 3: And you know that's the way tense, defensive like a

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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you when you have to feel one

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Speaker 4: of those lousy questions, stupid questions.

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Speaker 2: From dan Burrailway expect I mean, you give a good question.

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Speaker 3: Somebody had to ask them. I know, sometimes the stupid

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Speaker 3: question elicits the greatest response.

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Speaker 2: You hope to get a stupid answer, that bait out

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Speaker 2: there that's the beauty. Then here you go.

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Speaker 3: How about my Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 4: Oh, well, hotly, you know, I tell you they're they're

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Speaker 4: absolutely we say it every week.

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Speaker 2: Let's face it, they're legit.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The the only game that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they played two games with they could

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Speaker 4: have lost, but they won both. That's the mark of

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Speaker 4: a real good football They against IWA, that's true, and

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Speaker 4: against Penn State. But that last play, that catch that

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Speaker 4: kid made. Wow. Uh And historically that would have been

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Speaker 4: a game that Penn State would have won and in

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Speaker 4: the end would have lost. And you said, boy, they

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Speaker 4: played great, but they just couldn't get the mindset, you know,

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Speaker 4: and that guy made that catch and they did right now.

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Speaker 4: They're well coached, they've got a lot of talent. You know,

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Speaker 4: people if they didn't have an IU on their helmet,

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Speaker 4: they had Buckeye leeds on the helmet. That people have

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Speaker 4: been even throwing more praise in them. But they're well coached,

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Speaker 4: they've got talent, and they believe they're really you know,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna play and they probably have already. They've played

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Speaker 4: some teams that have more talent than them, but no

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Speaker 4: one's playing better as a team than they are.

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Speaker 3: Do you still know your college rules? Do you think

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Speaker 3: you're still conversant in the most important college rules. It's

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Speaker 3: been a long time since you've cotched. I want to

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Speaker 3: try this one on you because I and and guards

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Speaker 3: he might know the answer to this one too. So

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Speaker 3: what's the rule in college regarding shoving a wide receiver

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Speaker 3: out where he's not given the chance to bring his

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Speaker 3: feet down. In other words, if the rule is it's

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Speaker 3: still up to the receiver, you can shove them out

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Speaker 3: and it's an incomplete pass. It looked to me like

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Speaker 3: the defensive back had a chance to do that but

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Speaker 3: I think chance to end up making such a ridiculous catch.

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Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed to say. I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I know it's different than pro football. It's the opposite. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So in pro football, can you shove the guy out

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Speaker 4: of Yes, one hundred percent you can. Yes, there's no

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Speaker 4: force out anymore. Vikings lost a playoff spot.

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Speaker 3: They did when the rule was reversed. It was different

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Speaker 3: back then then, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent sure I think it's the opposite.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, guard, I think. I think it's

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Speaker 5: the same now that you can shove them so you

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Speaker 5: can show used different. That to me was the surprise.

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Speaker 5: It almost looked like, oh, I don't want to get

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Speaker 5: too close to him now I kept lifting him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he had no chance. I still can't believe he

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Speaker 3: got the foot done.

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Speaker 2: I'm either going that high in the air. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: The official got it right right from the beginning, got

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Speaker 4: My first lines, I said, he's at a bound and

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Speaker 4: then in that slow motion and.

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Speaker 2: You looked at it, you said, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's pretty remarkable. And now well they're

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Speaker 3: set pretty much for the Big Ten title game, but

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Speaker 3: they're gonna still My prediction is they will still be

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Speaker 3: I bet you they're five point underdogs to Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Is that too high you think? I think that's what

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Speaker 3: it's going to be. Whether it should be or not,

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Speaker 3: I still think because it's Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: You know, you keep getting in this gambling thing.

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Speaker 3: I got a sour taste in my mad don't blame

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Speaker 4: You know what we you and I have talked about

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Speaker 4: the problems of this gambling for a couple of years now. Ever,

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Speaker 4: since all this gam on the phone and stuff, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna tell you that there's nothing worse.

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Speaker 2: The biggest threat to sports is if people think the

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Speaker 2: fix is in what you're talking about, if the gamblings

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Speaker 2: are and look at it, it's more and more.

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Speaker 4: And so what does the NC double A do in

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Speaker 4: their infinite wisdom. Now they're saying, oh, they any sport? No,

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Speaker 4: why why would you do that? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: you met that rule. The fix is in with those guys.

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Speaker 4: You know the money you're going to be made on

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Speaker 4: those kids that can bet on the games off their phone?

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Speaker 2: Why you know?

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Speaker 4: Why would you do that? It makes absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 4: And then when you think about this baseball deal, I

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Speaker 4: didn't you know? I knew that you could bet on

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Speaker 4: certain things like is the is the next pitch going

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Speaker 4: to be a ball to strike? You don't think that's

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Speaker 4: not easy to fix? Or someone told me you can

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Speaker 4: bet on over under the speed of the.

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Speaker 3: Net rate in this in the classic case, that's one

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Speaker 3: of them. It's velocity. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I mean, does anybody that the money that could be made.

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Speaker 4: The only way they get caught is when some dummy

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Speaker 2: I get that's how it's happened. You know, they get greedy.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been a sports better Never? Have you

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Speaker 3: ever been attracted by it?

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Speaker 2: No? Do you think? Why?

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Speaker 4: Is that just I'm gonna tell you know how I

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Speaker 4: learned the lesson. This goes way back. They used to have,

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Speaker 4: I think, on all college campuses, and.

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Speaker 2: They used to have these parley parlay sheets.

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Speaker 4: You'd pick you know, you have to pick twenty winners

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Speaker 4: or whatever it would be. And everybody, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: it was right, no one ever thought anything about it,

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Speaker 4: but every I remember the highest state they pass it

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Speaker 4: around and guys would do it every month. And you know,

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Speaker 4: you think the coaches that know, coach has never won

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Speaker 4: that there. It was always the secretary or the janitor

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Speaker 4: or the bus driver. And I thought, you know, watching

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Speaker 4: all this film and you think you know what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Uh uh No. Sometimes and you've heard me say that,

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Speaker 2: what was it?

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Speaker 4: What was the game where I said, well, I tell

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Speaker 4: you what, the advise a game which I'm not I'd

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Speaker 4: take the Gophers in the points.

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Speaker 2: What game was that? I don't remember? It was Iowa, Iowa. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was like eight and a half point. I agree, said,

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Speaker 4: They can't score that many points. I said, I bet

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Speaker 4: the house. Well, I'm glad I'm not a better because

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Speaker 4: I lost my house.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever have to talk to any coaches about that,

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Speaker 3: any assistance there? Any times you're like, hey, let's just

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Speaker 3: go easy on what you What are you trying to do?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: You can't get involved in this kind of stuff? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I used to part of the deal every year, you know,

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Speaker 4: just like you go over things that you expected from

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Speaker 4: mean a lot of things that you went over by

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Speaker 4: say fellas, you know, I'm not approved. You know, you

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Speaker 4: get a drunk driving and you're probably gonna lose your job.

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Speaker 4: You know if you involved, you know, you can't even

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Speaker 4: get involved in Back in my day, you couldn't get

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Speaker 4: involved in a march madness office pool. You remember Rick

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Speaker 4: Neuheisel got that's true, right, and a jam out there

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Speaker 4: and at the University of WA Washington.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever scalp your Rose Bowl tickets? You know,

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Speaker 3: the like Mike Tights got in trouble for he had

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl tickets and got caught many years ago.

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Speaker 2: As head coach.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever have access to tickets and then you

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Speaker 3: scalped them and got caught?

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Speaker 2: No, you didn't. As a big tang coach, you didn't

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Speaker 3: And you get those kind of perks. Those perks didn't exist. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking for.

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Speaker 2: Sid I probably would have. I guess, well, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know Sean Salisbury we have on almost every week.

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Speaker 3: He claims that the whole thing, the reaction to that

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Speaker 3: is ludacrous. That players did that forever, whether it's right

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Speaker 3: that they did it all of the time.

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Speaker 4: Well, when I was coaching assistant coach at Iowa State, Okay,

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Speaker 4: and in the old Big Eight, which was a great

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Speaker 4: he was the head coach. He was a great football conference.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you played an await game at either Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: or Nebraska back in those days, you got your hands

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Speaker 4: on the tickets, actually the hard tickets. So when you

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Speaker 4: played away, when the bus rolled up at the hotel

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Speaker 2: You're right there, and no one has thought of the

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Speaker 2: ib it. I mean, that's just the way it was.

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Speaker 3: You didn't feel guilty at all. It's not legal. I

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Speaker 2: Supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: In your face.

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Speaker 3: my show. Any re election to that? Well, you know so,

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Speaker 2: Why would you? Why would you wish that? I can't

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Speaker 4: I know it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very rud Does LSU.

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Speaker 2: Very They just don't. They just don't want to pay it.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, what I'm saying, I'm not I'm not a

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Speaker 3: I mean.

441
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: They played a heck of a game. I mean you

442
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 4: look at certain play. Everybody wants to look at the

443
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 4: play at the end of the game. But obviously that

444
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 4: snap that went over the punter's head in the rain,

445
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 4: you know, the start off that way, uh, and then

446
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 4: I would battles back and they take the lead, and

447
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 4: they're because of their defense, you think, well, they're probably

448
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 4: in pretty good shape. Except all that I need is

449
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 4: a field goal to beat That's a big difference.

450
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 2: Right.

451
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 4: I mean, if they're up by four, boom and with

452
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 4: that what's the quarterback's name?

453
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: More namere.

454
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 4: That throw that he made on third down and that

455
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 4: was well covered and I mean a great but a

456
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 4: great throw.

457
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: At exactly the right time. So I don't know.

458
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 4: Playing that, you would think that they're sick down in

459
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 4: Iowa City. They played well enough to beat Oregon, and

460
00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 4: they played well enough to beat in the.

461
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 2: End, that's true.

462
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: They've had two tough losses that way at home. I

463
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: would argue the Gophers Friday night, this is there the

464
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: third time. Why they've they've they've played a heavyweight opponent

465
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Speaker 3: this year because I don't put Nebraska in that classification

466
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: they shouldn't be in. So they get killed by Ohio State.

467
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: Maybe that's expected. They're non competitive against Iowa. Can they

468
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: be competitive against Oregon? I mean, do you give them

469
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: any chance to knock off the Ducks Friday night primetime?

470
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 4: Well, anything can happen, you know, if I was a

471
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: better I put money on it.

472
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Speaker 1: No.

473
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Speaker 2: Are they catching Oregon at the right time? You know,

474
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Speaker 2: you know, possibly?

475
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: I mean they're playing early and they played at on

476
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: the road away in Kennick Stadium in a tough, tough ballgame.

477
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 4: Is it easier to come back from a tough ball

478
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 4: game or an easy win? The thing about it, you know,

479
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: you get battle hard, you know, if it becomes rue

480
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: your most game. And that's what I talked about Indiana.

481
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: Now they've in a couple of close games. Uh, they

482
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 4: know how to act when the all the pressure is

483
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 4: on them, and they they believe that it's happening. But uh,

484
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: I think that's that's Uh, that's tough duty for the

485
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: the golfers going out there playing on the West coast,

486
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: playing Oregon, who's a good football team.

487
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: And I tell you.

488
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: Think about Oregon everything they do, they run the ball, well,

489
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 4: they've got a good offensive line. I was really you know,

490
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 4: to run the ball the way they did against Iowa.

491
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, if you had an offense that

492
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: was averaging five point six yards of carry on the ground,

493
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 3: would you hand the ball off more than like twelve times?

494
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 2: Now? Who are you talking to? Koc No? Who are

495
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: you talking? Yeah, you know it's a problem.

496
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: I don't understand why he hates the Why does he

497
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: hate the run? Is it the thing? I want to look?

498
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: You know, I'm the quarterback whisper. So it's got what

499
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: is it you're doing that? But he used to be

500
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: what is PJ hate the pass? You remember when you

501
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 3: used to get up or some time about that.

502
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: Because there's there's there's middle ground here. That's the problem.

503
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 2: The idea is you do what you have to do.

504
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 4: Ain't it the idea say when I get done, you

505
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 4: can talk. Okay, I mean that's that's the way I'm

506
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 4: talking about.

507
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: Well that's okay, Oh I see so.

508
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 4: But my point being, listen, the idea is to control

509
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 4: the ball, move the ball and score points.

510
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean, do what you do there.

511
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 4: You know that one of the big problems that I have,

512
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 4: and we talked about it the Michigan State game. Yes,

513
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: you know it's you're struggling. You're not a good football team.

514
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: You know it's second and one. Don't be a g

515
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: run you know, think well, I can get.

516
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: A yard in two tries and then keep the ball

517
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: and do what you But you know, one of the

518
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: problems that I have at all levels.

519
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this.

520
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 4: When I see guys on the sideline and they're looking

521
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: at that play sheet, I'm thinking, what are you looking at?

522
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: It's not that complicated. How many plays do you have a.

523
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: Lot in pros have the sheets sheets taller than the person.

524
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: Why you're trying to improve is trying to impress people.

525
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, I.

526
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: Mean I very sophisticated game now, mate.

527
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: I love when you hear John Gruden and he starts

528
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: with those clips on there when he's doing the play call.

529
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 4: You know, well, I'm gonna tell you if you have

530
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 4: to name what every player is doing there, and then

531
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 4: that's smart enough to learn the plays, why don't you.

532
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: Just call it forty two right the game?

533
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, I just worry that if you're

534
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: looking in that sheet all the time, you're you're missing

535
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 4: what's out out there.

536
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: On the field. That's my personal opinion.

537
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: And I you know, hold on one second. You see

538
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: the JJ McCarthy news A sure did yeah limited in

539
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: practice today with a hand injury right hand?

540
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: Yes, he heard it.

541
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: He claims he hit his hand on a Ravens player's

542
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 3: helmet on the throat of the end zone for JJ,

543
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: the one that JJ probably should have caught. When asked

544
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: of it affected him, he said, if you slam your

545
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: hand in a car door, it's going to feel different.

546
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: But there's no excuse. We're warriors and you just got

547
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 3: to push through another injury for JJ. That's crazy, right,

548
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I just did say today.

549
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 5: He said today that if if it was like tomorrow,

550
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 5: like he expects him back tomorrow on no problem, Like,

551
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: it wouldn't even been a thing if it was another day.

552
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: Well, I'll let's see. You never know what this develops into.

553
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question as a former coach,

554
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: and maybe you didn't concern yourself with these things, but

555
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: as a guy who I think I've gotten to know

556
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: a little bit regarding what you value when it comes

557
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: to a player performance, Would there be any part of

558
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: you if you're the head coach and not something I

559
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: say you would say out loud, but that internally you'd go.

560
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: You know, I like my quarterback a lot. I like JJ.

561
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: I like what he represents, what he might become. I

562
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: don't it's I don't need stuff about how he's got

563
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: this alter ego and he calls himself nine on game day.

564
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: I don't just go play, Just go play? So would

565
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: that bug you at all?

566
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: Is a guy that would yeah? Yeah, uh, you know

567
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: I come from a different era. You know you might

568
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 4: say old school dinosaur or whatever, you know.

569
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, but.

570
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: My friend Gary Homan, who you've been in here, Yeah,

571
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: of course he jokes about all the time he's been

572
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: around me. When he would hear me say to a player,

573
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 4: why don't you just shut up?

574
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Be a little and a little bit more demonstrative than.

575
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 4: That, you know, yes, yes, in fact, he l's One

576
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 4: time he was in Chicago at media Day and I

577
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: was sitting at one table, and I'll tell you what

578
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: it was. Daryl Reeve was sitting at the other table,

579
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: and as I was listening to him, and I had

580
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: to turn around and everybody in front.

581
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: Of everybody and tell him shut up. You know it

582
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: just that was a challenge. Daryl could talk. Well, he

583
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: shut up for us.

584
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, yeah, but yeah, I mean something, it's

585
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 4: it's crazy.

586
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: Just wait a while, I mean, just develop, you know,

587
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: I'd say, just just show show a body of work.

588
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: Because I like him as a player. I think he's

589
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: still got to I think he's got a chance to

590
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: be really good. He's been very in No well yeah, JJ,

591
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: but you know on Manna, you know, because isn't it

592
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: true that everybody has to every football player has to

593
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: have an alter ego. On game day Saturday Sunday, the

594
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: game's crazy, the game is barbaric. You have to be

595
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: different on that day than any other day. Right by definition,

596
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: it's a brutal game. You know, it's not meant for everybody, No,

597
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: it really isn't. And but there's a lot of different

598
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: characters out there, that's true. Some guys don't say a word,

599
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: and then other guys they're just they go NonStop.

600
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: But the but at the end of the day, it's

601
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: how you play, you know.

602
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: And the thing about it when you can when you

603
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: do all the other stuff.

604
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: If you're backing up the way you're playing, that's.

605
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: True, it's okay, that's okay. But you're one of those guys,

606
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: you know what I talk about all the time. It

607
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: cracks me up when I'm watching again at any level,

608
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: especially pro football, when all of a sudden a guy

609
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: will make a sack and you'll have to run to

610
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: the middle field and do a dance.

611
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that.

612
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: And there's two minutes left in the fourth quarter and

613
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: you're down by thirty points.

614
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: What are you doing? You look like you know.

615
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned there was a bare defensive Lineman two

616
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: games ago, who caused who sacked the QB and was

617
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: so busy celebrating he didn't notice that the QB fumbled

618
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: the ball during the sack. That's a problem. It's like

619
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: you got to play the play the rest of the

620
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: play at least, and that was in a closer game.

621
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: But that's the same issue. He had a plant, you know,

622
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: the whole week. He is, Yeah, that's true. I sack

623
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: a guy. Here's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, that's true.

624
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: Question, So you didn't really are you picking the upset

625
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: Gophers over?

626
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you're going I'm not doing that. Okay, Well,

627
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: what's what's the points for twenty five points?

628
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: I think it is that?

629
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: What it is?

630
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: Is it that many points? Guardsy? What is the golpher?

631
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was that it's three touchdowns. It's

632
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 2: three touchdowns.

633
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gone. I might be tempted to take the Gophers.

634
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: I don't expec I don't think they're gonna win, but man,

635
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: that's a lot of points.

636
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: A lot of twenty five and a half points, five

637
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: and twenty half and a half. That's that's considerable. When

638
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: was the last time we've been we'll probably go state.

639
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah, that's true.

640
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: That's a lot of you know, that's that's hard. That's

641
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: hard to pick.

642
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: You know.

643
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: Now, if I was a gambler, if I don't believe

644
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: even the govers, I ain't bet in Oregon.

645
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: That's too many points.

646
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably.

647
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean out there, you don't know, they range all

648
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, correct, Maybe the duck doesn't feel good.

649
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't know the question for Mace, is Wisconsin really

650
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: just a healthy, starter caliber quarterback away from becoming a

651
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: competitive team.

652
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: You know, I haven't seen him play. To be honest

653
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: with you, I know that everybody's upset. I know they've

654
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: had some injuries. A couple of young linebackers are playing

655
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: now that they're really excited about, and they haven't been

656
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: able to play the quarterback right that they want they

657
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: wanted to play. You know, I don't know the thing

658
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: about it is, if you still have Wisconsin on the schedule,

659
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: you don't like to.

660
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: See them win the way they did against Washington. Does

661
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: that bring them together? Did that give you confidence? Does

662
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: that give them the little juice that's going And you

663
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: talk about Washington, you talk about problems.

664
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: How about Jed Fish their coach. The whole word out there.

665
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: He wants out, he wants to leave. He's not happy.

666
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: His wife hate Seattle. Supposedly she don't want to she doesn't.

667
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: Set well, you should go, I should move there.

668
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: She doesn't want to raise her kids there. She's moved

669
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: back to Arizona. I don't know if that's true or not.

670
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: But it's all your guys all over the internet, isn't

671
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: he wasn't he your guy?

672
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: My guy?

673
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: He was here with.

674
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: That's not very fact with fiction though, going his wife

675
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: and kids moved out.

676
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true or not. Yeah, that's true.

677
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: What I glossed over that two weeks Maggie's And why

678
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: is that copy? This is the radio. I'm just I'm

679
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: playing you now.

680
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: I know I get blamed eventide on this one. Yeah,

681
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: I can't win because then I'll still be blamed, even

682
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: though I didn't say okay, welly, all right, mister computer

683
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: and behind the glass you check everything I say, check

684
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: it out, get it.

685
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: On the computer.

686
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: I just can't believe you would say something. I don't

687
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 5: know if it's true or not. That's a pretty big

688
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 5: thing to say. Well, I qualify at least other people

689
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: talk like they know. It's the fact that it's not.

690
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's I'll google's. I'm curious though about that

691
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: Seattle opinion.

692
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this has been around for about

693
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: two weeks. That's why.

694
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes on the internet, half the stuff you

695
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: see you can't believe. But the other end of that,

696
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: if there's enough smoke, there's probably fire someplace.

697
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's off in the case.

698
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: What's so the family, his wife and kids remained in Arizona.

699
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 5: They didn't move to Washington because they.

700
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: Want to Wait, he's been there how many years? This

701
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: is his second year? Okay, Yeah, it's okay.

702
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: That happens finish high school in Arizona.

703
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: You can't blame him for that. I heard it.

704
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: One of the problems is his name, because he's jet

705
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: Fish and he's never lived anywhere for more than ten minutes.

706
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: Has popped up in some other some other coaching caps.

707
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: That doesn't make him a bad person, but they're questioning

708
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: his roots because his roots aren't even there.

709
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: So for jet Fish siding with me, yeah, I mean, Jed,

710
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: it's his choice. If he wants to change jobs every

711
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, you can say that.

712
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm just it sounds like you're in that and it

713
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 2: sounds like guards. He's ripping though.

714
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: He has a sixteen year old who's been in five

715
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: different schools in the last eight years. He wants to

716
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: let her finish or what's wrong with that? That's a

717
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: good family matter. Maybe maybe there's.

718
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: A thought about this before they moved five times a career.

719
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: It's too good. It's unbelievable what I have. I had

720
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: another text for you.

721
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I'll save him. Let's stay on

722
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: schedule a break here. I got a couple of other

723
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: things to get I got a math problem for you

724
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: to discuss. Maybe we'll talk about some other national stuff

725
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: and anything else that's stuck in Mace.

726
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: You got one left, oh, I got one? Good hold

727
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: on to that.

728
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: We'll come back with that and then Top five, followed

729
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: by Pat Kessler, Mace, I need your help on one story.

730
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: What did exactly the Michigan's they get caught doing and

731
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: what's the punishment?

732
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: Well, they had to vacate all their wins for three years.

733
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: Three years.

734
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was. I think it must have

735
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: been recruiting violations or something. But the irony of it.

736
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: I found out about it on Instagram and Michigan Gold

737
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: Blue or um whatever it may be, is there and uh,

738
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: and they were howling about it that they had to

739
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: vacate all their wins and there's signs stealing.

740
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: They didn't vacate anything that one did. That one thing.

741
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 4: I wonder why, you know, we used to joke all

742
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: the time, you know, when I was at Ohio State

743
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: and we played by the rules, we say, but we

744
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: used to joke. We ever get caught doing anything bad, probaya,

745
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: they'll put Cleveland State up provacon. You know this.

746
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: So to answer both questions, this is the Mel Tucker era.

747
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: You remember.

748
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 5: The sexual harassment stuff a few years ago. And so

749
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: they used three ineligible players that weren't eligible for some reason,

750
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 5: but they used them in the game. And the theory

751
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 5: is Michigan State, going back to the Brian Kelly thing,

752
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: wants to continue. I don't think the mel Tucker thing

753
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 5: has been settled. They want to fire mel Tucker for cause,

754
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 5: for cause, We're back to that, okay, and not pay

755
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: him I think a ninety million dollars by at US.

756
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: So they were actually welcoming these charges and they did

757
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: not fight these Yeah, they did not fight these like

758
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 5: Michigan fought the Connor Stallion stuff. They did not fight

759
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 5: these as vociferously.

760
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: Do we know where Connor Stallions is these days? I

761
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: thought I saw a tweet from him the other day

762
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: about something.

763
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: He was, I think at a high school doing some coaching.

764
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: High school coaching. Yeah, but you know you talk about

765
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: the NC double A. Yes, which favorite thing? Did you see?

766
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: They just settled for three hundred and three million dollars

767
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: you have to pay out a term they volunteer coaches.

768
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: There was a in some sports.

769
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: I don't think football are and they've already had to

770
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: settle in sport of baseball. I don't think football and

771
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: basketball had it a volunteer coach and the rule was

772
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 4: they couldn't get paid. So it's like, no, you can't

773
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: do that. You can't restrict earnings, you know, by somebody.

774
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: And what amazing do you remember? Back in the nineties

775
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: they lost a big lawsuit because basketball had a position

776
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: called a restricted earning coach. Yeah, and they lost it,

777
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: and I was for even more money than this. I

778
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: think you think they would have learned their lesson. You know,

779
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: you wonder who is making the decisions? Don't they have

780
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: a lot of lawyers there. They do not very good obviously.

781
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 4: I mean they just pay that money out, They make nothing.

782
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: They just spend other people's money.

783
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

784
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: Well, I you know, we've we talked about the betting thing.

785
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: Is it that the ncluble allowing college kids to bet

786
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: on pro sports? Is it that their lawyers are telling

787
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: we would lose the case in court? And I say, well,

788
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: then get better lawyer. I mean, it doesn't seem like

789
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: they a has very good lawyer.

790
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: Lawyers.

791
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: They they're they're not doing very well when things go

792
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: to court, other than you know, big settlements.

793
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't buy that because they got all kinds of rules, right,

794
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, they just have bad rules.

795
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're getting nailed on this when it

796
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: comes to money. You know, uh, they were making money

797
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: all started with.

798
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: That EA sports right off a kid's name.

799
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: How do you how do you use your your the

800
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: kid's name and all this stuff and you're making lots

801
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: of money off it and they don't get a piece

802
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: of the action. Well that's not right. But on this deal,

803
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if it's league number

804
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: to me, why I can't I can't understand what positive

805
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: thing comes out of saying it's okay, go ahead and

806
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 4: bet all the odds against you, you know.

807
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: The disasters in the waiting and in the making. I

808
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: guess I should say that's very true. Interestingly, this is

809
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: from five oh seven. Guy, What size was that TV

810
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: that Mace never got back? I think I could masge

811
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 3: to swing that for Mace and his commitment to the show.

812
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: Somebody's got of off of your TV. So what do

813
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 3: you remember the size that you in your office?

814
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: I think it was about eighty one.

815
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's what I thought you'd say. I'm guessing

816
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: it was like like a postage stamp back in the.

817
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: Day, right, it went very big. Maybe it ended up

818
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: with a new flat screen. It seems interested it wasn't. No.

819
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: I went just say, before you get too far. Yeah,

820
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: you always say something, what's been bugging you?

821
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

822
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: What's been?

823
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: What's I'm just not a sport guy. I'm gonna and

824
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: at it. We know that.

825
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: On other day, I was downtown, now listen, downtown what

826
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: downtown many hous Okay, and I stopped to get a

827
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: cup of coffees.

828
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: I walked in place. It was crowded, looked like a

829
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: nice place.

830
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: Cut the coffee, and I proceeded to pay for it

831
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: with money cash.

832
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Why cash? And they said, we don't take it. I

833
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: don't blame him. Why it's legal tender. And I said,

834
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: wait a minute, get your card out. I didn't have

835
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: a card with me. He didn't, so, I mean, you know,

836
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: so they literally they only that's that's wrong. Did they

837
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: did you get to keep the coffee? Did they let you?

838
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 3: They say, we're gonna little give you this one.

839
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: I sat down and started crying and let me keep it.

840
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: Sympathy vote really though, Well, there are some places like that.

841
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: Cash a lot of places. I don't carry any cash. Cash,

842
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: So do you carry a lot of You don't because

843
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: you never want to buy I understand how much on.

844
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: An average mace in your faverage mace day? How much

845
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: do you have in your pocket? A couple couple hundred?

846
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 5: Okay, don't you say that people are going to be

847
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 5: that's old that's old school, because I don't think most

848
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 5: people do that.

849
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: I don't guards you do carry any cash.

850
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: I carry no cat I carry maybe twenty bucks like

851
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: in my bag.

852
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: I didn't carry that. That's when you used to get

853
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: a clipping guy.

854
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: You you guys don't tip. No, it's easy on the

855
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: She's never been easier. Now you get.

856
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: The door for you, you don't tip him.

857
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: Parking Why do you think we're valet parking? I mean

858
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: we're not like you. We're normal people to just park

859
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 5: our own cars. We're happy to park our own cars

860
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: in a walk. We don't need a guy driving the vehicle.

861
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: I'm probably riding my bike.

862
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 4: If you go to a restaurant and get the bill,

863
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: you don't think that that waiter doesn't rather have the cash.

864
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: Give him the cash, you know, do I don't think

865
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: any more of that matters.

866
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: That's it, sure does? Okay? Ask him? So you never

867
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: pay with a credit card.

868
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: I didn't say, I'm just saying if you go to

869
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 4: pay for cash, they should take the cakes.

870
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: You can still tend with cash. It's legal tender.

871
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: Dan Insiders tell me that Pam Borton got Mace's TV

872
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 3: and took it when she got can that's Mike and

873
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: would Berry. Pam Borton ended up. God, I can't believe

874
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: it's the TV where she Now? How did you and

875
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: Chris Voles get along? By the way, well, Chris doing

876
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: this with two minutes.

877
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: Left, Chris Balls was the women's ad when my first game,

878
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: there was two separate departments, you know, I you know,

879
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: we were cordially, we didn't have much interaction, you know,

880
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 4: you know, kind of cordially. I mean, I was all

881
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: for women's sports. Now, some of the things that she

882
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: would bring up, so, and I'm serious. I remember from

883
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: the time she used the word shiro hiro nexus.

884
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: I really I didn't know what it meant.

885
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: I didn't And and it's a female hero, female hero.

886
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: Shiro a shiro.

887
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: You know, well, I can't hear. I thought a hero

888
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 3: could be a man.

889
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: Or a woman. I never thought he's wrong hero shiro. Yeah.

890
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: So I was dying to ask her what do you

891
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: call a manhole cover? But I didn't want to do that.

892
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 4: I thought there there might be something creative.

893
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: Man. You can't let you.

894
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 5: Where is Chris Falls, by the way, these days she

895
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 5: lives in California.

896
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said this during the break. She despised roycey

897
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: in me more than you did. That's that's what that

898
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: should have been, the unifying That's why they got a lot.

899
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: But that was that was a very redeeming quality. That's

900
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: still so good. She was very smart on that, on

901
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: that front.

902
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: Out in the boonies in southwestern Minnesota. They don't take cards.

903
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm with Mace.

904
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: There you go.

905
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what about credit cards?

906
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: And it's un America. It's Unamerica.

907
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: You should I'm not against credit card, but I'm saying

908
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: if you don't think when you if you don't think

909
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: that right away, right off the top, when they're paying

910
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: that three percent credit card, they know everybody. If they're

911
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: not going to raise that product to have the consumer

912
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: take care of it, you're you're wrong.

913
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: Tell Mace he can use his phone to pay. He

914
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: needs to learn Apple pay.

915
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: He used to have credit card? You still going to

916
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: put a credit to carry.

917
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: The follow it?

918
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: And when you when you used to go to the

919
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: now gone Starbucks and Wysetta Downtown Wayseetta one, did you

920
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: pay cash or credit cash all the time?

921
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? I do.

922
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Have servers and bartenders definitely prefer cash tips because they

923
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: do not accurate they do not accurately claimed them on

924
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: their taxes.

925
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 5: So I guess you're right, that's not the ethical Mase.

926
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: I know, well, you wouldn't want to be a party

927
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: to that.

928
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, no, no, not paying taxes for these

929
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: people like that we paid too much tax as it is?

930
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: Do you think so? Why do you think Louis last?

931
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: You know in nineteen we didn't have income tax in

932
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: this country until nineteen thirteen, you know, I'm going to

933
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: tell you.

934
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: And it was supposed to.

935
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: Be a temporary didn't have roads if it was up,

936
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: there's a lot didn't have there.

937
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Nineteen it's supposed to be a temporary thing. Well then

938
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: it be. It was only supposed to be schools or police.

939
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: You'll be quiet. It was only for the top one percent.

940
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Only top one percent paid that. And

941
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: then they said, oh no, we got to get everybody.

942
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's the top one percent.

943
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: And then we got to say sales tax, Oh you

944
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: buy a home TAXI.

945
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: You know what. No one's wan you to live here.

946
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 5: You can move to you can go to Texas, you

947
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 5: can move to Florida.

948
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: No state income tax in in Texas. Is there one

949
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: in Florida? I don't think there is there either?

950
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: Is that Florida? Texas? I think Tennessee doesn't have you

951
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: love traveling, Maybe maybe it's time for you to maybe

952
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: And that's what Louis did. Yeah, that's Louis. Why do

953
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: you think Louis got his residence in all.

954
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: Mister, mister Minnesota. Come on, you can't accuse them of that.

955
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, Yeah, that the cat's out of the

956
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: bag of that one. All right, we gotta go anything

957
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: else before we go like that's it because we're out

958
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: of We're late, and Kessler's time is being effective.

959
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 5: You would win in the may or may oral race

960
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: and Wiseta with your no tax on in Minneapolis, Minneapolis,

961
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 5: you'd be in trouble.

962
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: In trouble. Yeah, you'd be very, very gold water in Minneapolis,

963
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: but you'd be prefect.

964
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna tell you that there's a you know,

965
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: Oklahoma plays Alabama at Alabama.

966
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: That's true, and you're picking the upset. I think this

967
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: is right. I'm not positive.

968
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: I don't think that Alabama has ever been Oklahoma during

969
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 4: a regular season game.

970
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: Really, I think it's I'm not sure that's right.

971
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: Well, there's another one factor fiction.

972
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: What is it? I don't I'm not sure. Yeah, sure,

973
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: it threw it out there. I'm qualified it.

974
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 3: I'm only thirty eight and I pay cash half the time.

975
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: Mace is right. I thought tips aren't taxed anyway. What's

976
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: the difference that's true. They're not tipped anymore. Are they

977
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: are taxed anymore? I think that's all been.

978
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: Changed up till you make a certain amount of money.

979
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: Cash is legal tender if you have already have already

980
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: legally offered to pay, and therefore technically no longer have

981
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: to you no longer have.

982
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: To see so they should have to give me that

983
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: coffee for free.

984
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 2: Late.

985
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: Let Mace cook be quiet, JG. Wow, Wow, all your

986
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: friends are going in today out they're texting in today.

987
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: You know why.

988
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: I know, because people didn't know that there was an

989
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: income tact for nineteen thirteen.

990
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: You know you should still, he starts barking. You know

991
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: you should talk to about it.

992
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: Kesler, get kid Kesler on the tax stuff. Yeah, you know,

993
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: former political reporter Channel four for years.

994
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah know it.

995
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 5: Now I'm going to look into nineteen thirteen and see

996
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 5: what else we're missing. You know what, we can go

997
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 5: back to time to bring back.

998
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: The wig party.

999
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: I think simpler times, you guys would carry to be

1000
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 5: carried buggy instead of carry limo.

1001
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: That's what it would be if we went back to

1002
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: your world, carry buggy.

1003
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: And we want to thank our good friends at Jack's

1004
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: cafe as well, doing outstanding job sponsoring this segment.

1005
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: When I go to Jack's, I dip in cash.

1006
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure you do, but you don't tip, well I do.

1007
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: I've heard you're not. What I've heard is you're not

1008
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: a bad tipper, but you're an average tipper. You rarely

1009
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: surprise anybody.

1010
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: That's what type of service. That's not true. That's not true.

1011
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: So I was told by I can't I can't reveal

1012
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: my sources. I'm an a media member. You know that

1013
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: I can't give up my sources.

1014
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: I remember too.

1015
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you are. You got your own sources. That's true,

1016
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: and I'm ashamed of it.

1017
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: No, you're not.

1018
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: You you actually revel in it. You can't get enough

1019
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: of it. You wish you would have done it sooner.

1020
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: That's the truth of it. Getting some head nods on that,

1021
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: by the way, from the Peanut Gallery, just saying so

1022
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: verbal confirmation, confirmation. We gotta go, all right, coming in

1023
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: next week, I'll be here again. That's gonna be three

1024
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: straight weeks, I think, or is it four?

1025
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: Maybe four?

1026
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: When when's the return to Fargo to the studios there?

1027
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 2: I don't know when you go to the studio again?

1028
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: Okay, but they know you well there too, obviously. Yeah,

1029
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: you're you become a fixture.

1030
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, I get treated the way I should.

1031
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: You have a cup of coffee for me, so long coffee.

1032
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: They treat me with respect that it's unbelievable. Yeah here,

1033
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: not so much, thanks mace.

1034
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: Uh let's pause top five vikings into report, which shockingly

1035
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 5: includes the quarterback