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Speaker 2: We have been busy today. A good afternoon, Mowagger, ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for joining us. We

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Speaker 2: have a lot to get to later on this hour,

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Speaker 2: a Bengals free agency overview with our guy James Orpene

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Speaker 2: from Bengals Talk dot com. In just a second, Jeff

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Speaker 2: Carr is going to join us. Locked on Reds podcast

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Speaker 2: on Hunter Green and spring training. At the midway point,

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Speaker 2: great college basketball night last night. As a UC fan,

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Speaker 2: I could take last night and put it in a bottle,

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Speaker 2: just a really fun night to have that kind of

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Speaker 2: atmosphere and that kind of performance on senior night, and

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Speaker 2: then we could start to extend the conversation to the

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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. I think the Bearcats have squarely played themselves

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Speaker 2: onto the bubble.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: They have a ton of work to do, and let's

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Speaker 2: face it, the odds mathematically are not in their favor.

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Speaker 2: But if you make this about the basketball part, what

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Speaker 2: has there been tonight like about this team over the

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Speaker 2: last three and a half weeks. They're not just winning games,

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Speaker 2: they're dominating opponents. That game last night was never really

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Speaker 2: close was never really in doubt. Cincinnati has won six

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Speaker 2: win on Saturday. They will need to win games plural

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Speaker 2: in Kansas City. The way this team is playing right now,

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Speaker 2: I'll take my chances. Congratulations to the Miami RedHawks. I

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Speaker 2: know the larger conversation is about do they get in

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Speaker 2: if they lose. They nearly lost last night. But to

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Speaker 2: and it's hard, and you have to survive the dog

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Speaker 2: days and road environments and in Miami's case in the

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Speaker 2: MAC taking other team's best shot, which they did last

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Speaker 2: night again against Toledo. You gotta win games in a

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Speaker 2: My first MAC title in the regular season for Miami

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Speaker 2: in twenty one years. Congratulations to Travis Steele and his team.

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Speaker 2: The atmosphere in Athens on Friday should be unbelievable. Not

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Speaker 2: such a great night for the Xavier Musketeers last night.

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Speaker 2: The Trey Carroll injury is really unfortunate and Kentucky late

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Speaker 2: diminishing their NCAA tournament hopes, but it is a reminder

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Speaker 2: I think of how hot and cold and unpredictable that

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament draws closer as well. NKU has a

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Speaker 2: Horizon League Tournament. The Norse in Oakland, Michigan to take

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Speaker 2: on Oakland tonight. You'll hear that game on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Big news of the day involves Hunter Green, who is

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Speaker 2: going to be examined here in Cincinnati and then again

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Speaker 2: is calling right elbow stiffness. Jeff Carr locked on Reds Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I had reached out to Jeff yesterday because I'm like, look,

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Speaker 2: point thing. This was not even thinking about Hunter Green,

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately Hunter because of an injury situation, is the

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Speaker 2: Emergency Hunter Green episode out earlier today. Go check that out.

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Speaker 2: I guess the main question I have is what every

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Speaker 2: nice things?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: And you were talking about storylines, It's like, first one

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Speaker 3: and foremost for spring training, can I say health? Yes,

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Speaker 3: That's the annoying part about all of this is that,

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Speaker 3: Mo. I love to be optimistic with most things surrounding

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to test on an opening day, and you

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Speaker 2: But like it starts with Hunter Green, like that, if

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Speaker 2: I think the other frustrating with Hunter specifically, And like

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Speaker 2: But like there are guys who get hurt. There are

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Speaker 2: just it feels like we are always talking about with

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Speaker 1: Like I'm with you, I love Hunter Green to death.

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Speaker 3: But we heard that interview that he gave to to

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Speaker 1: Why did he say that if he knew his elbow

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Speaker 3: It just felt like Hunter Green was saying, watch me

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Speaker 1: More is the fact that nobody has lost it. It's

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Speaker 1: Innings every single time out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, you and I talked about this

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Speaker 2: But more than anything, I'm not sure that a hole

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Speaker 3: And a question that I have, and it's a good question,

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Speaker 3: far is why on Earth was Nathaniel low so available? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because he's looking pretty good. I feel good about the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if he's on the team, who cares, right,

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Speaker 2: And you're looking for signs for Matt McClain, Matt McLain.

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Speaker 1: So far, so good.

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Speaker 2: Like you take every spring training result, every game, every

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Speaker 2: looking for encouraging signs and with a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: Would you agree?

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Speaker 3: And the comments that were eight on the first Red's

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Speaker 3: your name for him, Tito the Magnificent, as he was

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Speaker 3: talking about Matt McClain, he literally made it sound as

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Speaker 2: Certainly feels that way. Jeff Carr the Locked On Reds Podcast,

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Speaker 2: The emergency pod about Hunter Green's injury situation is available.

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Speaker 2: Go check that out and you guys will have John

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Speaker 2: Sadak later today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, very good.

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Speaker 2: Our guy Jeff Carr will do it against so Man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much well, I appreciate you. Go Reds the

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