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Speaker 1: Hi's Brian Thomas. Happy to welcome to the fifty five

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Speaker 1: Casey Morning Show. You know him, I know him, and

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Speaker 1: he is now an author of the book Under Siege,

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Speaker 1: My Family's Fight to Save the Nation, by my guest,

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump. Yes, the executive vice president of the Trump Organization,

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Speaker 1: leading the global operations one of the most iconic real

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Speaker 1: estate empires in the world overseas the expansive portfolio including

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Speaker 1: the Trump Hotels, Trump Goff. You can go on and

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Speaker 1: on and on about the real estate holdings. He is

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Speaker 1: responsible for the company's expansion into emerging industries. He also

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Speaker 1: happens to be the target of a lot of political

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Speaker 1: attacks and just by virtue of his membership of the

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Speaker 1: Trump family, that's what the book about. At least I

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Speaker 1: understand Eric Trump. It's great to have you on the

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Speaker 1: fifty five Casey Morning Show. I as I sat here

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Speaker 1: and contemplated the last say ten years, and I guess

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Speaker 1: you've lived with this microscope focus your entire life. I mean,

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Speaker 1: would that be accurate before the Trump political era came in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but never anything like this, Brian Ian and I'm

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Speaker 2: so on her. The book, you know, Underseas went to

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Speaker 2: number one on Amazon, it's doing credible and then clearly

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Speaker 2: people are you know, it's totally people in the country

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Speaker 2: and making a statement because so many of us have

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Speaker 2: been targeted. It's not just Trump family, I mean, underseas

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Speaker 2: is kind of the story of this entire country, the

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Speaker 2: entire Magat movement, all of us, and all of us

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Speaker 2: were deep platforms, debankes, and mean the second my father

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Speaker 2: went down that escalator and took twelve minutes before the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post wrote wrote an article, this is when the

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Speaker 2: impeachment of Donald Trump began. And they, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: did everything right. They impeached him twice. They made up

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Speaker 2: the dirty dot CAAs they you know, accused us of

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Speaker 2: having secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating

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Speaker 2: with the Kremlin in Russia. They weaponized every DA and

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Speaker 2: every age, whether it's in New York City or Washington, DC,

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Speaker 2: or Fulton County, Georgia. They weaponized all of them against

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Speaker 2: our family and my father. I mean, they took him

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Speaker 2: off the ballot in Maine, they took him off the

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Speaker 2: ballot in Colorado. They stripped him of all his social media.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you tried to type in Trump into YouTube,

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Speaker 2: you couldn't find him, and they threw him off of Twitter,

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Speaker 2: and threw him off of x and threw him off

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Speaker 2: of Facebook. I became the most impement person in American history.

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Speaker 2: I've never gotten so much as a traffic ticket. They

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Speaker 2: did everything they could to destroy our family. They raided

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Speaker 2: mar A Lago, they raided Milania's room, they raided Baron's room,

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Speaker 2: and then they tried to kill him in Butler, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: And then they tried to kill them again, you know,

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Speaker 2: eight weeks later at the golf course in Florida. They

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Speaker 2: tried to put our family and our country under siege

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Speaker 2: because they didn't like what my father was saying, and

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Speaker 2: they didn't like the fact that we had created the

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Speaker 2: greatest political movement in history. And Brian, the story had

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Speaker 2: to be told. It had to be told from kind

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Speaker 2: of an insider view, as the guy sitting in the courtroom,

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Speaker 2: as a guy receiving those subpoenas, as a guy fighting

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Speaker 2: like hell for our entire family, and really holding that

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Speaker 2: family together outside of Washington, DC, because I was in

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Speaker 2: charge of you know, everything that you just listed, you know,

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Speaker 2: and the story had to be told to the American

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Speaker 2: people and by the way. The greatest part of the story, Brian,

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Speaker 2: we won. I mean, we beat the mainstream media. We

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Speaker 2: beat them in embarrassing fashion. They're totally irrelevant and independent

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Speaker 2: voices like yours are all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 2: winning the day where you know, ten years ago, I

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Speaker 2: think that was very different. NBC and ABC and CBS

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Speaker 2: and you know, and we had the greatest victory in

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Speaker 2: political history, winning the popular vote, winning every swing state

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Speaker 2: and so on, and so it's a beautiful story, but man,

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Speaker 2: was it a hell of a fight.

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Speaker 1: Do you take any comfort of it at the big win,

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Speaker 1: because to me, that sort of suggested that, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're smarter out here in the unwashed masses than the

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Speaker 1: Democrats perceived us to be. We saw what happened to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. We knew that Steele dossier was paid for

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Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party, created whole cloth full of lives

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Speaker 1: for the purpose of keeping Donald Trump from getting elected.

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Speaker 1: Enter Hillary Clinton's debacle. She lost her own campaign, I

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Speaker 1: think on that then they used that Steele doci to

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Speaker 1: continue to perpetuate this myth that the Russia was involved

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Speaker 1: in the collusion to go through the whole investigation, fight

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Speaker 1: out there is nothing there. This was all a lie,

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Speaker 1: that was all done to undermine your dad getting anything

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Speaker 1: accomplished in his first four years. And Lord Almighty, it

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Speaker 1: was non stop under siege. It was the biggest political

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'll never forget thinking of my desk

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Speaker 2: at from Power and I get a call, and the

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Speaker 2: first calls from the New York Times, the second calls

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Speaker 2: from the Washington Post. Eric, I hear you have secret

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Speaker 2: servers in the basement of Trump Tower that are communicating

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Speaker 2: with the Kremlin. I almost spit my drink out on

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Speaker 2: my desk. I was laughing so hard, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: give me a secret servers. Is We hardly knew what

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Speaker 2: a delegate was, Brian. You know, we're real estate people.

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Speaker 2: You know we had gotten into the political thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about winging it, We were like

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Speaker 2: the definition of winging it. We weren't smart enough to

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Speaker 2: mean I started laughing and I said to them, you

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Speaker 2: here in five minutes. I'll give you a I'll give

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Speaker 2: you tour of the basement of Trump Tower. You can

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Speaker 2: look for the quote unquote secret servers. Right, they knew

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Speaker 2: it was a lie, The FBI knew it was a lie,

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Speaker 2: and they led it perlay for three years. At first,

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Speaker 2: they wanted it to be our October surprise, so Hillary

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Speaker 2: Clinton could get three extra votes, you know, and hopefully

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Speaker 2: done by the time they disprove it. Right. Then, after

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Speaker 2: they lost in such embarrassing passion against a group of

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Speaker 2: quote unquote misfits who didn't know anything about politics and

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Speaker 2: doing so, they literally pitted the two biggest nuclear superpowers

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Speaker 2: you know, some greedy woman could get could get you know,

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Speaker 2: that's how damaging this is. And they knew it, and

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Speaker 1: My guess that, Hey, Eric Trouv, author of Underseas, my

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Speaker 1: Family's Fight to Save our Nation, And Eric got to

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Speaker 1: ask you what was rather perplexing for me the entire time,

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Speaker 1: although I can understand him just sitting back and saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to touch this with a ten foot poll.

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Speaker 1: Let me watch them self destruct. How come Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because chaos and other countries that our adversaries are

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Speaker 2: probably beneficial to Russia and China, right, I mean, I think,

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Speaker 2: now by saying this, But you know, I mean they're

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Speaker 2: that's how that's how real life works, as as sick

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Speaker 1: I figured that was a direct answer to the question.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we know the Chinese Communist Party is stirring

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Speaker 1: the pot of division in this country through social media,

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Speaker 1: though actively engage in that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the more troubling issues of are illustrations of lawfare.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I practice laws of a litigation attorney

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Speaker 1: So I have a little bit of background in terms

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Speaker 1: to pass when you file a lawsuit the real estate

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Speaker 1: claims against Donald Trump in New York that somehow he

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Speaker 1: overvalued the real estate. I mean, you're talking about major

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Speaker 1: There was no justiciable controversy that that lawsuit.

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Speaker 2: You and I could go into this for four hours,

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Speaker 2: because this is what I do. I run the Trump organization.

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Speaker 2: Not only were they not damaged, they made hundreds of

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Speaker 2: we were the best borrower they've ever had, meaning you know,

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Speaker 2: they were literally they had emails, which is how do

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Speaker 2: we loan Trump more? Money because he's literally the best borrower.

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Speaker 2: They called us the big whale and the platinum borrower, right,

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Speaker 2: and then Letsitsie James comes in and says that we

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Speaker 2: somehow defrauded banks. We defrauded Deutsche Bank, the most sophisticated

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Speaker 2: every single year they plot, you know, they passed the

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Speaker 2: it was passing the very test. There was never a default.

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Speaker 2: There was never a mispayment. There was never there wasn't

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Speaker 2: there was nothing. There was nothing. And they came in

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Speaker 2: some of the most honest people. We've never had a

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Speaker 2: problem with them. We've loved the relationship. We consider them

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Speaker 2: a platinum barer. And then all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: verdict comes down five hundred and sixty million dollars paid immediately,

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Speaker 2: you know, and and let ban Eric and Don and

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump from ever doing business in New York City again.

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Speaker 2: It was insane. Now, thankfully, Brian, the Appellate Court through

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Speaker 2: the hangout, including the presiding Judge of New York States,

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Speaker 2: through the entire thing out at a five zero decision.

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Speaker 2: But this is the lawfare that we were against. But

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Speaker 2: They wanted to take my father out using any means possible,

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Speaker 2: which is the exact definition of a siege. That's why

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine the emotions you had to go through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe worse. Honestly, if you were to actually if

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Speaker 2: I mean I could have never thought that an FBI

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe I'm old school, but like I want

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Speaker 2: meaning protecting the homeland. Instead this guy, you know, this

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Speaker 2: you know, And it's it's crazy, like this isn't the

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Speaker 2: and just all of us, everybody listening, every civilian in

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Speaker 2: this nation demands better from these people.

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump, you and of course your father, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: showed the value of sticking it out, fighting against this nonsense,

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Speaker 1: constant attack regularly twenty four to seven a day. They

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Speaker 1: managed to persevere. And I really truly salute you and

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Speaker 1: your father for sticking it out and you know, showing

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Speaker 1: the strength. It was necessary because very few among us

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Speaker 1: everybody there. But for the grace of God, go I.

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump, author of Underseas, The Families Fight or My

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Speaker 1: Famili's Fight to Save our Nation. Eric, we admit it

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Speaker 1: easy for our listeners get a copy. It's on my

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Speaker 1: blog page fifty five caresey dot com, and I will

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Speaker 1: strongly encourage them to get a copy of this book,

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Speaker 1: read it, and also share it with their friends.

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Speaker 2: Brian really appreciate you, my friends. It was a great

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Speaker 2: honor to be on You go get a copy, send

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Speaker 2: it to your liberal friends. And it's on Amazon. It's

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Speaker 2: number one. We're doing great, so very proud of it.

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump, keep up with great worth