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Speaker 2: I don't feel what that means. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: That's I've been not nicely whiting, but I've been saying

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Speaker 2: Saw throughout this season, so Luca, the fits and starts,

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Speaker 1: That's a great info. Luca tremendous job this week. We

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Speaker 1: I've really liked the quotes you sent out by Jonah

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Speaker 4: I thought it was very insightful stuff. Man.

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Speaker 3: Well, reallyciate it, Ryan, and yeah that's why, you know,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, have a safe flight home and we'll chat with

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Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks, Ran, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Do they Is there any sort of hazing rituals that

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Speaker 2: But it's it's like a ride of passage, like you

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Speaker 2: you got to have the cocktail sauce with shrimp.

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Speaker 4: Yep. And you do that the one time and you

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Speaker 4: No one was eating it. No, I mean you can

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Speaker 4: Man, you're an old event mantrait. Right. Yeah, there's some people.

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Speaker 1: Like like Jeff Leigwell has been out there for forty

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Speaker 4: It's it's incredible Leggy. I know Leggy's the best. Uh anyway,

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Speaker 1: your question about the guys in the room. Did we

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Speaker 1: you can't reset everything, like whether it's my contract or otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Like you, there's turnover, but there's like we're not remaking

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Speaker 1: these rooms. You're not going to remake the wide receiver room.

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Speaker 1: Rjie Harvey's part of the running back room. The tight

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Speaker 4: End, and running back, or are we going to.

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Speaker 1: Focus in on one specific position, say we are going

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Speaker 4: And then tight end, we're going to do something there.

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Speaker 2: Too, So how you allocate that is going to be

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Speaker 2: very telling on the answer to your question. Yeah, tight

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Speaker 2: what do you think about Caleb Lohner. It's Caleb Blowner, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because when you look at him, prototypical.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's like six', six built like a,

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Speaker 2: think that he could be your joker or whatever in the,

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Speaker 4: You have to look, for, Right but if you don't.

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Speaker 2: See that in, HIM i could see a complete overhaul that.

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Speaker 2: ROOM i Think Nate atkins is a valuable asset to the.

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Speaker 2: Offense other than, THAT i Think Adam trumpman needs to

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Speaker 2: get upgraded for what they ask him to, do to

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Speaker 2: pro the guy who is the tip of the spear

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Speaker 2: on a lot of these. Screens he underperformed in that

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Speaker 2: little bit like Less thand as. Well SO i think

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Speaker 2: and whether THAT'S i think that's probably free, agency possibly

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Speaker 4: End it's just really hard to do.

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Speaker 2: NOW i know last year there was there, were you,

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Speaker 2: That but even those, guys you, know you don't ask

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Speaker 2: them to do all the run blocking right. AWAY i don't.

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Speaker 2: THINK i MEAN i didn't study those guys well. Enough

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Speaker 2: you got to know everything about the. OFFENSE i, mean

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Speaker 2: next to the, quarterback you gotta know more than anyone

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Speaker 2: else because you got to know the run, game got.

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Speaker 4: In the pass, game got another the pass Pro and.

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Speaker 2: SO i think that position needs to be upgraded as

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Speaker 2: far as the joker situation. Goes in a pass receiving tight,

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Speaker 2: in hamstrung the. Offense it made them. Predictable Evan ingram

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Speaker 2: get the ball. Over folks he's not a fifty to,

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Speaker 2: just think that they kind of overestimated what his skill

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Speaker 2: set might bring to. This offense and ultimately it harkens

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Speaker 2: back to what we talked about these different personnel groups for.

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Speaker 2: Different Situations eman ingram became kind of a one, trick

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Speaker 2: doing and when he came on, the field that was an.

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Speaker 2: EASY tell i think they have to clean that up

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Speaker 2: and get some tight ends in there who can.

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Speaker 4: Do everything, you know you look At The seattle seahawks those.

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Speaker 2: Tight ends there's not one like twenty million, dollar man

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Speaker 2: but there's a group of guys who are very skilled

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Speaker 2: and could do, it all who can attack in the

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Speaker 2: running game and catch. The ball and if you run the,

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Speaker 4: Wide, open yeah And the rams do the same. Thing

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Speaker 2: At that so THAT'S what i would like to see for,

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Speaker 4: That too let me ask, you this as you were

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Speaker 4: talking ABOUT that i was thinking, For you and maybe

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Speaker 1: Self serving because you played, the position but what's the,

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Speaker 1: bigger need the all around tight end or stud.

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Speaker 4: RUNNING back i think it's the. TIGHT end I thought i.

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Speaker 1: Was going, TO say i have a feeling, YOU'D say

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Speaker 1: i don't Think most broncos fans would. SAY that i think, they'd,

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Speaker 1: SAY no i want an elite.

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Speaker 2: and the tight end. Who's blocking and if there's two

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Speaker 2: tight ends, out there both tight ends blocking and the.

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Speaker 4: Receiver's blocking like, you know during my tenure.

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Speaker 2: Here With, THE broncos i was here three, to eight

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Speaker 2: we had a thousand yard rusher. Every season it, didn't matter,

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Speaker 2: there because they're, all talented but it was the system

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Speaker 2: payton's history he doesn't he doesn't have two thousand, yard

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Speaker 2: backs he doesn't have fifteen hundred. Yard backs he's never

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Speaker 2: even at a twelve hundred. Yard, back so so what

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Speaker 2: makes you think all of, a sudden you're gonna Bring

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Speaker 2: A kenneth walker here and give them the ball twenty

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Speaker 4: A game that ain't happening with. This offense Even If

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Speaker 4: davis webbs At The Helm sean payton is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna sprinkle sprinkle situationally his philosophy, into it they are

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Speaker 4: Ball due they're going to have, A committee. I believe, and, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah strengthen, the room but you need a tight end

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Speaker 2: who's out there every play and no matter what the play,

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Speaker 4: The advantage and if you have two of, those guys

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Speaker 2: Really put the defense in a difficult position because whatever

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Speaker 4: Is wrong you want to, Go nickel we're going to

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Speaker 4: run the ball. At you you want to.

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Speaker 2: Go big these guys are really, good RECEIVERS and i

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Speaker 2: Give you Benchmin, All Bright, Nick ferguson ben's, GOING to,

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Speaker 2: i guess sort of empty the notebook on the things

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Speaker 4: We heard You Had luca evans on a.

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Speaker 1: RELATIVE to I can't i can't, help it every single

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Speaker 1: time relates to What the broncos are going to be

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Speaker 1: looking like this. Upcoming Year davis webb, like said when

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Speaker 1: when that, news broke it was probably forty eight straight

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Speaker 1: hours of people talking to me talking about it's asking

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Speaker 1: me WHAT they, i think, telling them, telling, me well

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Speaker 1: this IS how i see that working out and why.

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Speaker 1: It's happening and, you know one of the interesting conversations

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Speaker 1: a long time is a wonder about are we starting

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Speaker 1: to see a bit of a transition or by next

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Speaker 1: year will just Be bon? Nick's team will this be

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Speaker 1: Instead Of sean payton as the face of, the franchise

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Speaker 1: will Be bone nicks firmly cemented as the face of,

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Speaker 4: New extension what does? That mean how do you know

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Speaker 2: Thinking It's josh.

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Speaker 4: Allen's Team Like josh, allen's team like.

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Speaker 1: Like whatever they've had, good defenses they've had, Mediocre defenses

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Speaker 1: they've they had a coach that had been there for almost. A,

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Speaker 1: decade right they WON Five afc. East titles but you

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Speaker 1: always Talked About, josh Allen and, i'd say, You Know Kansas.

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Speaker 4: City chiefs will probably Are probably.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like that where where the identity

434
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: of there's not a good or bad in that conversation

435
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: either BECAUSE like i think About The, la, Rams Right

436
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: matt stafford is a, big name there's no doubt.

437
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 4: About that But it's sean. Mcvay's.

438
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,239
Speaker 2: Team right but But But matthew stafford shares in some

439
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: of the. Spotlight there there's a little bit more of

440
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: a shared.

441
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: Presence there but but, right now as we see here,

442
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: in constituted it's It's It's sean.

443
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 4: Payton's team but you said it in the first hour

444
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 4: in a, Few.

445
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Years Will sean payton, be retired will he be, you

446
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 2: know and eventually you probably Want bo nicks to sort

447
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 2: of take the reins if he's going to be, your

448
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: guy and he's gonna be the, you know public face of.

449
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: This thing So When sean payton Was In, new orleans

450
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: Was It drew brees's team or Was It sean.

451
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: Payton's team that's such a. Good question that's that's more

452
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: like a for me.

453
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,239
Speaker 1: Just, answering honestly that feels like a rams kind of

454
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: shared Like it's sean and it's brew because you Got

455
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: you hall of you Got a Hall. Of famer you

456
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: Hat a hall of. Famerite, quarterback Yeah Like matt Stafford's

457
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: a Hall of famer.

458
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: At quarterback so even With the Hall of famer, at

459
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: quarterback it was still a shared thing with the.

460
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: Head Coach sean payton is as long as he's at.

461
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: The helm relative to who's, in charge this is. MY show,

462
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: I Mean russell wilson had to learn that the, hard.

463
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: Way right we want. Anonymous donors do you remember that

464
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: it's not, your, thing man this is. My thing i'm

465
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: the guy. Who talks i'm the guy in. The spotlight

466
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: i'm the guy who sets the press and.

467
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: The routine and you guys go. Do it you guys are.

468
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: The players i'm the one With the, jordan, Contract RIGHT

469
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: and i think that'll be the case as long as,

470
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: he's here as long as he's a. HEY coach i

471
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: don't know if he knows how to take a step

472
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: back and all of a sudden be a supporting.

473
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 4: Have a, supporting role not be the. Lead, character well.

474
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: If, the offense let's play, this out because he used

475
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: this as an Example When pete carmichael was calling plays.

476
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: For him because he got.

477
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: The, injury yeah and they put up sixty three points,

478
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: out there and he Jokes with pat McAfee as.

479
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 4: A contract you're. KILLING me i was in a. Contract

480
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: year you're.

481
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: Killing me And If davis webb takes this offense and

482
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: makes him a top five offenses, next YEAR.

483
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: Well i Told m davis to call that one the.

484
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: One, THAT yeah i MADE sure i know there's gonna

485
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 2: be a way that he keeps it in On, His.

486
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: Oh i'm sure. There is and by, the way to,

487
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 4: an extent that still.

488
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: Is True If davis webb ends up being An excellent

489
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: Cordia the broncos are a top five offense and they

490
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: Win The.

491
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: Super Bowl sean payton's the. Head Coach sean payton let.

492
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: That Happen sean payton.

493
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: Oversaw that and empowered the, right guy and it was

494
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 2: and it resulted in. A Championship So sean payton gets

495
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: the credit. For that but but the spirit, of it

496
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: the spirit.

497
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: Of who's, you know who's the man?

498
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: Around here THAT that, i think, you know that will

499
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: be a challenge to as you, see control you also

500
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: see that sort Of spotlight at the, same time, you

501
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: know there are coaches who don't call games on either

502
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: side of, the ball who are still the figure ahead of.

503
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: The, Team Sure mike tomlin a. Great, example, yeah right he's.

504
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: Done now but You Know, John Harbaugh, Jim, HARBAUGH right,

505
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: i mean those guys don't call, the games but they're

506
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: still kind of. The figurehead, but no that's a, good

507
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: QUESTION and i don't know if there's room at the

508
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: top for both of us type.

509
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: Of thing, you, know well and the concept of.

510
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: Like who takes credit is such an interesting and maybe almost,

511
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: nebulous point because, You're right sean's the.

512
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: Head coach but it's like you've seen.

513
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: This offense now for a couple of years With, bo

514
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: nicks you go into the third year and all if it,

515
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: takes off which again maybe was naturally going to take

516
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: off Because bo nix, is better, everybody's better everybody's in.

517
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: The system you got a lot of the. Same coaches

518
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: it should, get, better right just.

519
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: By Nature so dave's web gets to come in at

520
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: the right time for, this thing and he's been working With,

521
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: Bo nix he's got, that relationship so it'll probably naturally.

522
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: Be better but if it takes a, significant leap the

523
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: concept of credit is gonna, be fascinating and Of course

524
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: seawan will take some, of it but there's gonna be

525
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: voices probably externally as well, as internally that are Gonna

526
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: say davis is he's got the right feel for. This

527
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: thing and then once, that starts then it becomes is

528
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: there a push and pull of like a tug of

529
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: war about who who really should get the? Most credit

530
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and how does that? Play out, and honestly you gonna

531
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: have to good leadership within the building to be able to.

532
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: MANAGE that i think he.

533
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 5: Does Know coach payton knows that ultimately his legacy is

534
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: going to be decided based on wins and losses, and,

535
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 5: championships right and so if they find a way to

536
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: win and win, a lot.

537
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 4: It's going to reflect great.

538
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: On everyone and you know you're on a great team

539
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: when it doesn't matter who gets, the credit you just. Win.

540
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: Together right BUT what i would be interested, to SEE

541
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: and I hope, i don't we don't have to see

542
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: this is if things, aren't good if the offense, isn't

543
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: good if they, start slow if there's some fits and

544
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: starts and some, problems there then, what happens you, know

545
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: Then Is davis webb the scapegoat now and Then To

546
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: sean payton slide in to be the savior to prove.

547
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: Everyone wrong you know that that shouldn't even happened in the.

548
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: First place, SO there i think there's, you know there's

549
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: there's a power struggle definitely happening.

550
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: Over there what do, you think what do You think shawn's?

551
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 4: Rooting for you don't want.

552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: TO know.

553
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: I think i.

554
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Already know you think you think He wants davis to

555
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: just take off and be.

556
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: The, superstar no because you just Heard That pete carmichael

557
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Clip from, Pat McAfee like.

558
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: There's a little truth in all. His, jokes right that's.

559
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: Exactly right he's bringing that story up for. A, reason

560
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: yeah to, Point, Out hey pete made me.

561
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: Look, Bad now pete still, hung around.

562
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: And obviously he was here, last, year right he's still

563
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: Close With. Pete, carmichael yeah but there was a moment and,

564
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: HE said i was.

565
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: In a contract Year and pete's out there put up

566
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: sixty three points Against The, indianapolis colts and, oh boy,

567
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: you know and all of, a sudden my offense looks.

568
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: Way better and it's just it's still, his offense but

569
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: it looks better with somebody else.

570
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: The, controls yeah we.

571
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: Also got to remember that, that enormous gigantic ego is

572
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: what has made him successful in the. First, Place right

573
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: you want your head coach to have an ego.

574
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: The Size Of.

575
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: Mount rushmore you want him to take it. All personally

576
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: you want him. To care you want him to have

577
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: a desire to stomp on people and score sixty. Three

578
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 2: points you want him to, be cutthroat you want him

579
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: to be a jerk to. An extent nice guys, Finished,

580
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Last right but there's just a, big, butt right the

581
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: extent to which that becomes too much for people to

582
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: bear or a great on people in, the building or

583
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: difficult to, work with or challenging when you, start losing

584
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: or whatever. It is but every, great coach every great

585
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: athlete has a. Big ego they don't want. To lose

586
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: they and they want. Some credit and that sort of

587
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: hungry ego is what Has Driven sean payton to the

588
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: success he's had in. This LEAGUE and i don't see.

589
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: THAT stopping i hope he gives and we've talked about

590
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: it earlier.

591
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: THE week i really do Hope that Sean gives davis

592
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: some time, to develop and that this is his first year,

593
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: doing it so we all hope that's.

594
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: The case what does that, mean though time?

595
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: To develop Because Because sean payton doesn't have time to

596
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: sit and develop, a guy he's in, his sixties he's

597
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: going into his fourth. Season, here yeah he's got, two

598
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: more honest contract and, after that if, you know who

599
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: knows what? Can happen and so how much slack do

600
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: you give this guy if he's having a hard time

601
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: out of.

602
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: The gate it's a. FANTASTIC question i don't have a

603
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: fantastic answer. For, it yeah, be HONEST because I don't

604
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: i don't know what that feels LIKE and i don't

605
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: think he.

606
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Does either it's going to have to be a, field, Thing,

607
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: right yeah how bad? Is it if, it's bad how close?

608
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: Are we if?

609
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: We're close, you know because the dynamic is going. To

610
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: change prior, to this It Was. Davis webb and obviously

611
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: some of this is Speculative because i'm not in those.

612
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: MEETING rooms i don't know how they.

613
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Do It But davis webb is the, position coach, or

614
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: was so it's just Him and bow or those guys in.

615
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: One Room Now davis webb IS. The oc he's in

616
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: front of all, the Offense and bo's going to have

617
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: his own, position coach so their relationship is going. To

618
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: Change now davis might have to be Critical of bo

619
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: in front of, his teammates something he's never had to.

620
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: Do before.

621
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: It's.

622
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: Going on it's been, a minute been. A, minute yeah for.

623
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: A while it was the barred from stains Said.

624
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: Kidding sadik by, the way just ran a four. Four

625
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: forty it's the fastest tight end since two thousand.

626
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: And Six. Vernon, davis yeah that's a. GOOD question i

627
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: just saw the.

628
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: STAT here i didn't see who They just Vernon is,

629
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: vernon okay yep uh six three and forty. Five pounds

630
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: unasked you since you played the position and we were

631
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: talking about it a, little bit so this lead in.

632
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: The witness but do you see him as an all

633
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: around so he's gonna be tight? In one do you

634
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: see him as an all around?

635
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: Tight end evan watched his, tape Enough but i'll, say that,

636
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: you know usually the fastest tight end guys are not

637
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: the type of tight END that i was, describing before

638
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: the every down point of.

639
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: Attack blocker a guy.

640
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: Who's going to be a believable run blocker and be

641
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: wide open on. Play action because, OF that i think

642
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: they need to replace that guy more so than find

643
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: a joker type of. Tight end so THAT'S how i

644
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: would feel about it without having seen, his taper seen

645
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: him block just a fat that he's.

646
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: That fast typically guys who are that fast they don't

647
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: really like. To block they see themselves.

648
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: AS receivers i will also say that he has absolutely

649
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: blown people away in the interview room and he will

650
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: not be anywhere near Where the.

651
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Speaker 4: Broncos, PICK well i don't think.

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Speaker 2: SO either, i mean even before, all THAT and i

653
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: did see the Report From, mike grifolo who said that

654
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: in an interview today about how he's why again blowing

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00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: people away in, the interviews he's kind of diagnosing things

656
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: in a way like usually as a, tight end you

657
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: don't get to.

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00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: They say it's like having a quarterback in there when

659
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: they when they put him up on.

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00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: The, board well the tight ends do know more than

661
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: anybody else on the field other than the quarterback. Obviously,

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00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: serious well offensive line and the receivers you got to

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00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: know you have to, know, WELL yeah i mean the

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Speaker 2: offensive line doesn't need to know past. Route concepts, they,

665
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: don't right but, Do yeah and they also need to

666
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: know the offensive. Line stuff they need to know, pass

667
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: protection they need to know run block. And schemes they

668
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: need to know gap calls and all the offensive. Lines

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Speaker 2: calls so these guys are intelligent one. Hundred PERCENT and.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be A really, i mean hopefully

671
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: whatever team ends up being, drafted by because has been

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00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: pointed out he won't be there. AT thirty i hope

673
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: that he finds a lot of success doing this and

674
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: maybe he can turn into an all around.

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00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: Tight end if he get puts on some weights. And

676
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: muscle two forty five is not.

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Speaker 2: LIGHT though, i, Mean yeah ingram's probably, twenty five right

678
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: or two, Thirty, maybe yeah two. Forty five coming out,

679
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: of college you can put on five ten pounds and

680
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: be a pretty good sized. Tight end and really blocking

681
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: is about, your effort, your technique, your leverage things.

682
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: Like that you can make the blocks at two. Forty

683
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: five it's about do you want it?

684
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: Bad enough and are you're gonna have a tight end

685
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: coach who puts you through it and gets you ready to.

686
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: DO that i don't know that his frame could put

687
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: on too much more. Weight though he was pretty rocked

688
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: up for, his frame like he's just been. Framed guy and,

689
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: right now these guys are in the best shape of.

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00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Their, lives yeah, you know if they've been training for

691
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: four months just by themselves with, a trainer, you know eating,

692
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: everything perfectly, training perfectly their bodies are gonna change a

693
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: little bit when they get in.

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00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: The camp, all right let's get to.

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Speaker 1: who's been producing and doing wonderful job.

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Speaker 4: All week wonderful job, Number three michigan at Number, Ten.

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00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: Illinois michigan minus one and a half over under one

702
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: fifty nine and. A half do we Know what nick is?

703
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: Doing yet we do? Not, YET okay i Know what. I'm,

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00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: doing well he's three and five days four, and Four

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00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: and BEN and i are tied in five and three

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00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: because you went too and ol, Last night so good job.

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00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: On that dave is going To go illinois in the over.

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00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: Be over we don't Know what. Nick's doing that's not.

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00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: IRRELEVANT anyway I think i Know what i'm. Gonna do

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00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: i'm Gonna do michigan in. The over that's the advantage

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00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: of going first sometimes is got to get to block you.

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00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: On that that's EXACTLY what i wanted, to do as

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00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: opposed to the disadvantage sometimes what do you want? To

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Speaker 2: do just, remind, You guys i'm actually eleven And oh

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Speaker 2: i've never. Lost this you guys haven't ever. Tracking That

716
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Speaker 2: but i've never Lost and i'm Going to michigan and

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Speaker 2: the over to.

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Speaker 4: Be over that's EXACTLY what i wanted. To pick THAT'S

719
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 4: why i blurted it OUT.

720
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: Because i get tired of you Telling me i'm tracing

721
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: you all, the time and this is.

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00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: This is, my cake and eat, it too.

723
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: SO then i can just put the same thing and

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Speaker 2: then we like and which ONE am i gonna?

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00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: Miss, On no i'm just gonna but that. IT'S boring

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00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: i don't want to. BE boring i know you need.

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Speaker 2: To, pick yeah, come on, all right Give me illinois and. The, Over,

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Speaker 2: hey ben have you ever been tpeing like?

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00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: Toilet? Paper, Yeah house he's never has in. His life

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00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 4: it's wrong. With you what's wrong? With me you guys are.

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Speaker 2: Vandalizing homes that's not vandalizing is when you take like,

732
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: laundry soap but you put it in their lawns and

733
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: the next time, it rains they get this phone that

734
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: kills all.

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00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 4: Their grass something par. Of you YOU don't i would

736
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: have never heard of. Such things, all right we'll.

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00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Look forward to Hearing you nick break things down from

738
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: the combine and or about the combine.

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Speaker 4: COMING up a, Great, job zach all week really. Killed it, Appreciate.

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Speaker 4: It zach. Appreciate everything you're the. Best name appreciate you. YOU

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Speaker 4: are i

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Speaker 1: Will see You, next friday, see you then look forward

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Speaker 1: TO it bct next