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Speaker 1: They are NFL champions.

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Speaker 2: The Seattlesyhawks have one Super Bowl forty eight.

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Speaker 3: As part of our non stuff coverage of the NFL,

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Speaker 3: this is Softy's weekly visit with Kevin Harlan.

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Speaker 1: He's a bulldozer. He's a piece.

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Speaker 3: Brought to you by Twin Peaks in Tuckwilla open every

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning just in time for kickoff.

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Speaker 4: He was like a pinball hanging off buddy.

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Speaker 1: He's a twenty three yard catch.

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Speaker 3: It run catch every game, every bite and every sip

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Speaker 3: only at Twin Peaks Tuck Willa.

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Speaker 4: Hit the touchdown, hit the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: HiT's grabbed by purse.

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Speaker 2: Now with Kevin, here's the Rodgers empty backfield. He'll get

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Speaker 2: the shotgunsnapped, four man rush sets in the pocket, pick.

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Speaker 4: Them behind town. He goes, did he lose the pall?

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Speaker 4: Rogers is down the Paul picked up on the play

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Speaker 4: by Regans. He'll run it down the middle from the

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Speaker 4: twenty to the ten to.

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Speaker 1: The five and a touchdown. He was not chased. He

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Speaker 1: was not chased.

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Speaker 4: It's a defensive touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Probably Houston Texans unbelievable game last night for a while,

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Speaker 5: and then it turned out to be kind of a dud.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, the broadcast I believe was the

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Speaker 5: best part of last night's game.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Harlan on the car.

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Speaker 5: For Westwood One, a worldwide audience, and he joins us

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Speaker 5: right now on the radio program normally Wednesdays at five

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Speaker 5: courtesy at Twin Peaks, Tuck Willa. But we're offer to

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Speaker 5: tomorrow for a little cracking hockey against the Devils. So

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Speaker 5: Kevin has graciously agreed to show his versatility and join

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Speaker 5: us here on a Tuesday at four pm, courtesy at

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Speaker 5: Twin Peaks.

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Speaker 1: How are you, pal, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: I'm good, busy day in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, Holy well, listen, you texted me that you

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Speaker 5: were on a plane just landed coming home from the

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Speaker 5: Texans Pittsburgh game last night, and while you were flying,

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin's nineteen year tenure in Pittsburgh ended. I mean

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Speaker 5: you just you saw his last game as Steelers head

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Speaker 5: coach last night.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of the Tomlin era coming to

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Speaker 1: an end?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a double one. I think it's

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Speaker 6: the double whammy. I think not only does Tomlin say

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Speaker 6: goodbye to Pittsburgh, but there was no way Rogers is

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Speaker 6: going to go back to Pittsburgh unless Tomlin was there.

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Speaker 6: So Rogers is probably retiring because he's not going to

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Speaker 6: go to another team, I don't think, and start from scratch,

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Speaker 6: and they had built something in Pittsburgh. It really kind

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Speaker 6: of chelled the last month of the year. They won

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Speaker 6: four or five and then of course they got whacked

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Speaker 6: last night. But Tomlin was the main reason he went there.

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Speaker 6: With Tomlin gone, Rogers won't go back to Pittsburgh, and

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Speaker 6: I think we've probably seen the last of the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame quarterback and Tom Win a Hall of Fame coach. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of shadow that Mike is going

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Speaker 5: to end up in the TV booth. I mean kind

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Speaker 5: of maybe expand on that. It sounds like you think

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Speaker 5: his coaching days maybe done, at least for now.

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Speaker 6: Well I think for now. I think Harball has also

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Speaker 6: been approached, I think by some TV networks, But I

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Speaker 6: actively involved in the cycle right now. Tom Win, I

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Speaker 6: don't know where he'll ever go that he'll have the

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Speaker 6: kind of feel and community and longevity and all the

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Speaker 6: things that make that job so tough in Pittsburgh, it's

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Speaker 6: a family run business basically, and the Rooneys have had

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Speaker 6: it from generation to generation. There aren't many organizations like

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Speaker 6: that left. He didn't leave there to go someplace else.

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Speaker 6: I think he left there to say, you know what,

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Speaker 6: I've had my bill, I'm gonna try something else. I've

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Speaker 6: got a second act and that act. Indeed, maybe in

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Speaker 6: TV he would be coveted by all the networks that

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Speaker 5: Well, i know who I'm calling up on the Steelers man,

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Speaker 5: I'm picking the phone up and I'm calling John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he would take it. I know

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Speaker 5: he interviewed for the Falcon job the other day. But

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Speaker 5: is there is they're a fit? You know, Harbaugh's available,

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Speaker 5: McDaniel's available, Dables available, Flores available, Kingsbury. I mean, lots

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Speaker 6: Well, that's a good question. I don't know right now

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Speaker 6: talk about it. Clearly, we all knew it. We all

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Speaker 6: I was more thinking of Rogers, who threw a pick

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Speaker 6: six in his final NFL throw, than I was Tomlin.

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Speaker 6: And I if you go to Pittsburgh, Uh, there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of rebuilding that needs to be done. And I

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Speaker 6: it's the way they've been drafting and the way've been

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Speaker 6: good personnel decisions. But at the same time they've not

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Speaker 6: three consecutive years, and that adds up and it causes

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Speaker 6: a lot of issues with what you do in terms

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Speaker 6: space that's available is limited because you get guys and

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Speaker 6: they've got issues. That's going to be a tough job.

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Speaker 6: But here's the thing, it's the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's one

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Speaker 6: what Harbaugh's looking for, a settled, stable environment with a

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Speaker 6: that area is a great place to live. But but

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Speaker 6: the Giants are going adam hard. They've got their quarterback

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Speaker 6: and I like Jackson Dart. They've got two one thousand

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Speaker 5: Well, Kevin Harlan, who's with us usually on Wednesdays at

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Speaker 5: three KJRFM courtesy a Twin Peaks talk. Well, Kevin, the

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Speaker 5: game that you saw last night you mentioned not really

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Speaker 5: of Rogers perspective. How about the lens of the Houston

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Speaker 5: Texans defense. I mean, the Hawks are number one in

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Speaker 5: the NFL scoring, but Houston's right behind them. They allowed

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Speaker 5: simple question is, man, is that defense good enough to

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Speaker 5: carry that team all the way to a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: It is. If you can run it, and if you

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Speaker 6: get the ticket punched. And they can stop the run.

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Speaker 6: They've got one of the best secondaries in pro football.

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Speaker 6: They've got receivers that complement the quarterback. They need to

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Speaker 6: have a little bit more out of that run game,

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Speaker 6: but they can run it. That was a big win

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Speaker 6: of the franchise, so it meant a lot in a

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Speaker 6: couple different ways. I think they feel empowered. Now. Listen,

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Speaker 6: they got a hands full this weekend. That's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a brutal game. Two rugged, hard hitting defenses going at it.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a real kind of throwback game. I

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Speaker 6: don't know how much scoring there's going to be, right,

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Speaker 6: but I can tell you this, You're going to see

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Speaker 6: the class of the NFL defensively on display in that game.

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Speaker 1: Well, you got Bears Rams this weekend.

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Speaker 5: You're going to Chicago pretty much answers the question where

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Speaker 5: will Kevin be on Sunday?

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Speaker 1: You'll be doing the Bears Rams game.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know, Man, the weather looks terrible in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: I think Hawk fans are well terrible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be like we're playing on the moon.

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Speaker 6: It's like gonna be thirteen degrees. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: In the forecast, Yeah, you'll be in a private broadcast

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Speaker 5: suite with will you go on?

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Speaker 6: No, No, we're out with the people. We're not with

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Speaker 6: out with the people broadcasting. Literally I can touch the fans. Wow,

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Speaker 6: You know, we've seen Chicago bandlet Uh, they're used to it.

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Speaker 6: The Rams are not. And the Rams you know, coming

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, we all know what happens when you try

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Speaker 1: Didn't you try? Didn't you once have a fan try

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Speaker 2: Here, we've got a trunk woman next door pulling our

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, is that kind of what you think

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Speaker 6: Now that was in Miami. That was in Miami. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but we are among the fans, all right. Let me

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Speaker 6: tell you right now. I know they're excited in Seattle. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but there is no fan base right now more excited

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Speaker 5: Oh, give me a break, Give me a break. Come on,

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Speaker 5: we're fired up. We're people too, well, you're people to

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Speaker 5: What are the odds I mean among the people?

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Speaker 1: How how do.

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Speaker 5: You foresee a Chicago upset of the Rams? Because I mean,

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Speaker 5: the the blueprint has beat the Niners and face Chicago

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Speaker 1: So what's what's the blueprint for the Bears to win

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Speaker 6: Oh? I think just play the way they've been playing.

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Speaker 6: They've got such confidence. First halves have been a little

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I mean the last time the Hawks

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Speaker 6: Uh, They've just they have found a way. They went

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Speaker 6: They've got some pretty decent receivers. I mean, I'm telling

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Speaker 6: Well, Buffalo is so beat up right now. I mean

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Speaker 6: I think you've mapped out who's not there, and that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Kevin, before you go, Kevin, Harlan's with us.

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Speaker 5: Where do you stand on Matt Lafleur and his future

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's an ongoing story. You've got a

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Speaker 5: Yeh, Kevin, you're the man, great stuff. Hope to see

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Speaker 5: Go home, get some rest, reset, and we'll talk in

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Speaker 6: Man. All right, you got it, brother, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 6: and I'll be watching that game up there with great,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, just make sure.

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Speaker 5: Whatever room you get for Westwood One for the Super

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Speaker 6: Well great, then it's you, me and five of the

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, go big or go home, baby, I love it.

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Speaker 5: All right, right, we'll talking a week How fun this weekend? Man,

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Speaker 6: You got it?

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Speaker 7: Dave?

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Speaker 6: All right, you too, enjoy it. Stop over at Twin Peaks.

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Speaker 6: Tell Brad, I said, Hi, get down to the stadium

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Speaker 6: and you're on your team.

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Speaker 1: You're the man. Kevin Harlan with us. We're gonna break.

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Speaker 3: Now back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for

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Speaker 5: How about that Harlan likes the Bears and Seahawks to

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love that. How about that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, is that a ridiculous proposition? The Bears are

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Speaker 5: it snows and it's like five degrees at Soldier Field

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Speaker 1: If the weather is terrible for them on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Part of me thinks Matthew Stafford is a cyborg superhuman,

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Speaker 5: Well, they've allowed thirty eight, twenty seven, twenty and thirty

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Speaker 5: The great equalizer is Caleb Williams, Legs, that's the equalizer

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Speaker 1: Have at it. Man.

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Speaker 5: That is a web and the Bears have got to

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Speaker 7: No, we will, just like I was rooting for the

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Speaker 7: I mean, he he puts balls in places that almost

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Speaker 5: Well he is, He's I was gonna say, the worst

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Speaker 5: don't know, man, I I don't think Harlan's crazy at

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Speaker 5: all that the Bears could win that game.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm with you, man. I see a Rams

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Speaker 1: team that's been and.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they'll maybe they'll blow up, maybe they maybe they

439
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Speaker 5: got whatever it was out of their system and they'll

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Speaker 5: just explode on the Bears. This weekend and go back

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Speaker 5: to the team they were before. But I just see

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Speaker 5: a team that's got a lot of cracks in the armor.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: For the last month and a half, we always.

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Speaker 8: Knew that this Rams secondary was their weak spot. I

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Speaker 8: think that other teams have sort of figured that out

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Speaker 8: even more in the last month. Like we saw it

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Speaker 8: really started with Carolina, which was what the week before

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Speaker 8: the Seahawks winner. Maybe it was a couple weeks before

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Speaker 8: we saw the game where well, no, the Rams lost.

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Speaker 8: Carolina's right where where Bryce Young just said, oh, you're

452
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Speaker 8: all crap, I'm just going to throw on you, right,

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Speaker 8: And I think more teams have figured that out. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: they are a much much different organization now. And if

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Speaker 8: Caleb Williams can figure it out, then it's that Sofia,

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Speaker 8: you kind of joked on the phrase equalizer, but the

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Speaker 8: reality is, like the weather can make a worse team

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Speaker 8: probably a better chance to win. The Rams are the

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Speaker 8: better team, all things being equal, but all things are

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Speaker 8: not equal, and the Bears have I think a great shot.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're talking about upsets in the playoffs, the parody

462
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Speaker 5: in the regular season, there's going to be some upsets.

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Speaker 5: The parody will show itself in the playoffs as well,

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Speaker 5: and we're kind of already seeing some upsets, right I mean,

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Speaker 5: we saw you a minor upset with Buffalo over Jacksonville,

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Speaker 5: and we almost saw an upset of Caroline over the

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Speaker 5: Rams the other day, right, So we're kind of starting

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Speaker 5: to see a little bit of parody in the NFL playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I just think, for me, what Harlan said last segment,

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Speaker 5: I totally agree with their the number one seed in

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Speaker 5: the NFL for a reason. Everyone's talking about the Seahawks

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Speaker 5: being the favorite to win the entire damn thing right now.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like this is it.

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Speaker 5: I feel like the weight between the Sonics and the

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Speaker 5: Seahawks in twenty thirteen, from seventy nine Dick to twenty

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Speaker 5: thirteen was.

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Speaker 1: Just two damn long.

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Speaker 5: Here we are now, twelve years later, and we're ready

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Speaker 5: for another championship. Somebody called Ian Show on the talk

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Speaker 5: back line today and this is just totally out of

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Speaker 5: the blue, and I agree with that. I didn't see

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Speaker 5: this kind of run coming over the offseason. I think

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Speaker 5: we thought maybe they were a playoff team, but I

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Speaker 5: don't think any of us thought they were gonna be

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Speaker 5: the number one seed in the NFC with the best

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Speaker 5: odds to win the title when the playoffs began. It,

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Speaker 5: like we've said a couple times on this show, it

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Speaker 5: kind of feels like they're maybe expediting the process here

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Speaker 5: a little bit. They're a little bit ahead of where

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Speaker 5: they're supposed to be right now. But this is the

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Speaker 5: way things kind of usually work sometime in this town.

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Speaker 5: That team's kind of come out of nowhere. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know, man, I mean losing this, losing this Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Like you guys kept telling me, well, if they play

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Speaker 5: the Rams, it's gonna be whatever. Losing this Saturday. This

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Speaker 5: is a game. You're a seven point favorite at home

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Speaker 5: against a team that's got no Fred Warner, no Ricky Pearsol,

498
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Speaker 5: maybe no George Kittle. In this game, you're a better

499
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Speaker 5: running team than you were when you played them in

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Speaker 5: Week one, and you just annihilated them physically in Week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: And that's what gives me the most hope for Saturday.

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Speaker 5: If they were the tougher, more violent, physical football team.

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Speaker 5: They kicked their faces in on the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 5: last weekend in San Francisco, and I got a hard

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Speaker 5: time not seeing Dick that happen again, especially with Charles crossback.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of a time. I'm going back here,

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Speaker 7: when have the Seahawks lost as favorites in the playoffs?

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Speaker 7: I mean, certainly not as touchdown favorites, right, I can't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, were they were favorites against the Rams in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty when they lost to Wafford, Yes at all.

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right they did that. That was a game.

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Speaker 7: But this would be I think it's safe to say

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Speaker 7: this would be the worst playoff loss in Seattle, Seahawks

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Speaker 7: as a one seed at home against the depleted.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just that that that's

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Speaker 5: my thinking. Sound what would be bigger than that? Because

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Speaker 5: it would be bigger?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well, here's I mean, here's the it's certainly the losing,

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Speaker 1: giving all their Seahawks losses.

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Speaker 7: Raiders AFC Championship, the road a better team, that was

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Speaker 7: the road.

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Speaker 1: They were nine to seven Miami.

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Speaker 7: The year after that, they they got bombed by Miami.

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Speaker 1: The year after that, twelve and four football team that

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Speaker 1: lost on the road.

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Speaker 7: Overtime against the Houston Oilers on that terrible interception that

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Speaker 7: wasn't an interception Fred Young, Fred Young. They lost to

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Speaker 7: the Bengals where Joe Nash trick knee game. They were

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Speaker 7: definitely underdogs to Boomer in that game, Dolphins by three.

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Speaker 7: Holmgren's last game where we were if we were favorites

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Speaker 7: in that game, we weren't. They were division champions. Yes,

533
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Speaker 7: they were not much of a favorite in that game.

534
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Speaker 7: Green Bay overtime in Al Harris. Yeah, Rams at Home?

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Speaker 7: Was that the Bobby Ingram.

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Speaker 5: The four game you're talking about, Yeah, we were favorites

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Speaker 5: in that was that was That was a bomber. But

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Speaker 5: you're right, I can cut you off right now because

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Speaker 5: it's already making me sick. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: I can cut you off.

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Speaker 1: Probably the worst loss.

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Speaker 5: This would be the worst one. This would be the

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Speaker 5: worst playoff loss in Seawk history. Maybe the most I

544
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Speaker 5: don't know what'd be the most surprising playoff loss. I

545
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Speaker 5: mean it's like if they were playing somebody else besides

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Speaker 5: the forty nine ers, Like let's say they're playing Atlanta

547
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Speaker 5: or they're playing Carolina, or they're playing Tampa Bay or whoever.

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Speaker 5: He'd be like, Oh, we're gonna wipe the feel with

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Speaker 5: these guys. Man, we're seven point favorites. We just hammered

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Speaker 5: them in week eighteen, forty minutes o'clock time to twenty

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Speaker 5: and if not for a couple of missfield goals and

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnold being blind as a bat on first down

553
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Speaker 5: and not seeing Zach s Charbernay, they could have won

554
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Speaker 5: that game twenty six to three, even if you factor

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Speaker 5: a McCaffrey fine, twenty six to ten.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 5: I think that we are holding back as fans from

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Speaker 5: running our mouths because it's the forty nine.

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Speaker 8: It's fair you realize that. I don't know if you

560
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Speaker 8: were listening. I ran my mouth yesterday. I am insanely

561
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Speaker 8: confident that we're going to wipe the floor with them

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Speaker 8: twenty four to ten at the very least. Also, keep

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Speaker 8: in mind that that Week one win where they beat us,

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Speaker 8: they had Nick Bosa. He's gone to correct they have

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Speaker 8: the last years. But the reason, everybody, but the reason.

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Speaker 7: You feel like that is because we're only two and

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Speaker 7: a half weeks removed from seeing it.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we saw.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm not I'm not saying that's what if let's say,

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Speaker 7: let's say San Francisco was in our division. We just

571
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Speaker 7: played them once, and it was Week one and we lost.

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Speaker 7: I think we'd have a different healing about it. But

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Speaker 7: you do have Week eighteen and they did dominate that.

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Speaker 5: That's like saying, I've already beat your ass one, so

575
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna beat your ass again.

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Speaker 1: How do I know? I just beat your ass yesterday?

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Speaker 1: What do you want from me?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 1: I'm six foot five or four foot three.

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Speaker 7: So if the Rams were ten and a half point

581
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Speaker 7: favorites on the road against Carolina, yes, what would Carolina

582
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Speaker 7: have been here this week?

583
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Speaker 5: Probably fourteen point dogs, thirteen fourteen point dogs because the

584
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Speaker 5: Hawks are a better team than the Rams in Vegas's eyes.

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Speaker 5: I just think we're kind of just like, nobody wants

586
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Speaker 5: to jinx it, nobody wants to get stupid, and nobody

587
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Speaker 5: wants to say something dumb, which is impossible for this

588
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Speaker 5: radio show. Forget about it, man, show starts at three.

589
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Speaker 5: We're instantly gonna say something dumb. But I feel I

590
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Speaker 5: feel pretty good, and I would they lose this game

591
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Speaker 5: on Saturday, I will walk out of that stadium pretty

592
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Speaker 5: freaking bummed out, man, pretty damn depressed. This is not

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Speaker 5: a game the Seahawks should lose. They lose this game.

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Speaker 5: It's because they give it to them. That's why you come.

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Speaker 1: Can you feel it now? Will you come to the

596
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Speaker 1: post game? Not at all, Not a chance if we lose.

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Speaker 5: Can I just won't do it if they lose, and

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Speaker 5: I won't do it if they win because I'll be drunk.

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Speaker 1: Either way, we're gonna break