Speaker 1: And welcome back. You're listening to Let's Garden Scott Berlin.
Speaker 1: Entering our second hour. Here, I'm with John Butcher from
Speaker 1: Madison Tree Care and Landscape, great horticulturist and a top
Speaker 1: tree guy.
Speaker 2: Very nice of you.
Speaker 1: Thanks, You're welcome, and Steve Holts, director of Horticulture at
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Gardens. And in about an
Speaker 1: hour we will be joined by Charlie Frank from the
Speaker 1: cince Reds Foundation to talk about the collaboration between the
Speaker 1: Zoo and the since Red's Foundation and some of the
Speaker 1: really cool community makeover projects that they do and the
Speaker 1: big horticultural component that's become part of it and the
Speaker 1: importance of that. And I think I am looking forward
Speaker 1: to that conversation. Charlie is a great guy, and I
Speaker 1: think we'll have a lot of good information there for
Speaker 1: people and insight and inspiration all of it. So we're
Speaker 1: going to do one more lightning round of favorite plants
Speaker 1: right now, just because we can't not do it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I do want to say eight hundred eight two three
Speaker 1: eighty two fifty five give us a call. I'm here
Speaker 1: with two very good horticulturist who could answer darny or
Speaker 1: any question, and this is the hour to do it.
Speaker 1: This would be the time you can get through. We'll
Speaker 1: be talking about other things, but we'll interrupt to take
Speaker 1: your call at any point. Eight hundred eight three eighty
Speaker 1: two fifty five, John, what's your next plant?
Speaker 2: I really like winterthor viburnum, and some people would call
Speaker 2: winter and pronounce it differently, but it's winter thur viburn
Speaker 2: for all common English speaking people here.
Speaker 1: And it's hard to pass that th h and just
Speaker 1: leave it with a tea.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's a great plant. It's got
Speaker 2: really shiny foliage in the summer, and it's just one
Speaker 2: of the smaller viburnam that fits in this place.
Speaker 1: Is better.
Speaker 2: It's got a pretty flower, cool fruit, great fall color.
Speaker 2: Can can I'm gonna are you gonna pick on me
Speaker 2: for this one? Do you want to get back at me?
Speaker 1: Do you know about this? I'm one hundred percent on
Speaker 1: board with winter.
Speaker 2: The internet will say that it's got a smelly odor
Speaker 2: when the leaves drop in the fall, and I've never
Speaker 2: had a problem with it. It's never been something that
Speaker 2: I've noticed. And I've got a nose that smells lots
Speaker 2: of things, and that's not that's not.
Speaker 1: A young nose a fresh No. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: a big note. Yeah, I like that one a lot too.
Speaker 1: And you know the the fruit starts out pink and
Speaker 1: then turns to blue and then a very dark blue,
Speaker 1: and that combines the blue part of it, the end
Speaker 1: part of it with the fall color which is bright
Speaker 1: red and is a really nice, nice combination. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it fits in most landscapes pretty well. There's also brandywine, yep,
Speaker 1: the other common cultivar. They're great viburnum, newtam winterter or brandywine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, Steve. All right, I'm going to go perennial
Speaker 4: on you now, so we'll keep the theme with the
Speaker 4: reds community fun projects, the community makeovers. As we look
Speaker 4: back in the past ten years on all the gardens
Speaker 4: that we've done in the community with very little maintenance
Speaker 4: and really tough growing conditions, three plants stood out on Perennials,
Speaker 4: like every project we've done. One's Amsonia, who d Arkansas
Speaker 4: Amsonia my favorite. There's a new one out called string
Speaker 4: Theory that's really nice and tight and compact, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's still three by three, but compact for an Amsonia
Speaker 4: drought tolerant, full sun turns butterscotch yellow in the fall,
Speaker 4: little blue flowers in the late spring. But then the
Speaker 4: second Pynanthemum mudicum, the mountain mint, it's a beast. But
Speaker 4: for you know, places that are really tough to get
Speaker 4: things to grow. If you say I don't have a
Speaker 4: green thumb, but I want a garden, that would be
Speaker 4: a good one to try. And then Baptisia you can
Speaker 4: never go wrong. The triumvia ismth would say. And those three, boy,
Speaker 4: you know you can base your garden off of those three.
Speaker 1: You really can, uh three favorites of mine, hands down,
Speaker 1: I think, you know. And all three of them really
Speaker 1: weren't part of the menu even five years. Baptista has
Speaker 1: been longer. But Amsnia just came along in the last
Speaker 1: ten years, and a Pygnantheum maybe only just the last five.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden they're out there, people
Speaker 1: are using them. And I always warned people with the
Speaker 1: amsnia that, you know, be patient with it. For the
Speaker 1: first two years you're going to wonder why Scott or
Speaker 1: Steve recommended this plant. But then it takes off and
Speaker 1: it forms this beautiful shrublight perennial light foliage that blows
Speaker 1: around in the wind, never falls over, and then that
Speaker 1: to die for yellow fall color is just phenomenal. We're
Speaker 1: going to go to Pamela in Kentucky with a call Pamela,
Speaker 1: what can we do for you today?
Speaker 5: Yes, my daughter has a large patch of the Lily
Speaker 5: of the valley and she was told that it's harmful
Speaker 5: to kids and pets. Do you know how to get
Speaker 5: a house can get rid of that?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, it is. I think it's considered poisonous. So
Speaker 1: though kids and dogs generally have more sense than maybe
Speaker 1: we give them credit for. But uh, that is a
Speaker 1: tough one to get rid of it. It's it's got
Speaker 1: a corn or a bulb at the bottom, stores a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. And I think it's going to take
Speaker 1: repeated you know, spraying it with some kind of herbicide probably.
Speaker 1: I would recommend a life to say product and uh,
Speaker 1: waiting for it to return and then do it again.
Speaker 1: It may take several years. You can keep stringing, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can keep stringing it back too, and that will
Speaker 1: negate the issue with with the kids and the dogs.
Speaker 1: Steve or John do you have any comments there.
Speaker 4: You can find a friend who really likes that plant, yeah,
Speaker 4: wants to put it in their yard, and you can
Speaker 4: tell them they can dig it out all they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe they don't care about their kids or their
Speaker 1: dogs so much.
Speaker 2: A little survival of the fittest. Yeah, Well, I've needed
Speaker 2: in thousands of landscapes and I've never heard of one
Speaker 2: person falling ill to this thing. So I believe that
Speaker 2: it's poisonous. And you know, if they're in there eating it,
Speaker 2: or the dogs eating everything, or the kids, you know,
Speaker 2: certainly this isn't without some level of risk. But I
Speaker 2: think it's pretty low from my experience.
Speaker 5: Right, we're apartment. She has autistic and then he likes
Speaker 5: to play with playing, So yeah.
Speaker 1: You might want to err on the side of caution
Speaker 1: there for sure. Yeah. So did we answer your question.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, Lisa, Thank you. You're welcome, Lisa and Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: What can we do for you?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 3: We had we were involved in that tornado that went
Speaker 3: through in Pierce Township two weeks ago. Yeah, and the
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty year old hackberry fell on part
Speaker 3: of our Foxwood hedge that is about eighteen years old.
Speaker 3: A beautiful hedge. It did not break the branches to
Speaker 3: pressed it down really far to the ground, you know,
Speaker 3: sent it so because it was the limb was sitting
Speaker 3: on that for a day or so. Is that a part?
Speaker 3: Is it possible to bring that back up as far
Speaker 3: as slowly?
Speaker 1: So the branches are bent but not broken, and they
Speaker 1: are staying down, and they haven't returned on their own
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're maybe coming up a little bit. Maybe we're trying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've been really watering it in.
Speaker 2: I would think that there's a chance to pull those
Speaker 2: back together. A little bit of garden twine that that
Speaker 2: decomposes on its own, and you can slowly start to
Speaker 2: kind of tie those back together. And you know, it's
Speaker 2: hard to say without seeing it how hard you can
Speaker 2: pull on it, or if you can get it back
Speaker 2: together all the way in one swoop, But if you
Speaker 2: can lift it up a little bit and tie some
Speaker 2: branches together, or maybe put a little steak in the
Speaker 2: middle of it, and then tie the branches back to
Speaker 2: the central steak and just kind of slowly start to
Speaker 2: pull them back. And if you use a garden twine
Speaker 2: that decomposes, you don't have to worry about if you
Speaker 2: forget and leave it on that it'll end up girdling
Speaker 2: the branches later. So I do think it's possible.
Speaker 4: Steve, you have anything to add on that now, I
Speaker 4: think be patient, fluff it up, tie it up, and uh.
Speaker 4: You know, the box will tell you whether it is
Speaker 4: gonna make it or not in about a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And it's about the most resilient plant that you'll ever find,
Speaker 1: So thinking, good chance they'll come.
Speaker 2: Back, and a little bit of tip pruning out on
Speaker 2: the ends could lighten up the weight on its own,
Speaker 2: which will start to allow to come back without you
Speaker 2: doing anything at all. From a string or tie back perspective.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so just and keep it water and give
Speaker 3: it uh.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be too aggressive about the water, and especially
Speaker 1: with all the rain we've been getting. Boxwoods don't need
Speaker 1: a lot of rain, and I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to err or water and it's not going to really
Speaker 1: help and you could wind up, you know, rotting roots
Speaker 1: and things like that.
Speaker 2: I agree with Scott completely. I wouldn't give it any
Speaker 2: supplemental water, especially if it's been established. Box they're one
Speaker 2: of the few things that really don't have any drought
Speaker 2: susceptibility in Cincinnati. And also they do have a lot
Speaker 2: of water overwatering issues. As soon as you start to
Speaker 2: put too much water on a box wood, you'll see
Speaker 2: lots of problems. So I would air on the less
Speaker 2: water side.
Speaker 1: Does that help you out? Yes, very much, outstanding. Thanks
Speaker 1: for your call.
Speaker 4: Well, there's the start of the drought right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just started it and we just cursed ourselves.
Speaker 1: Boom. Yeah. When we come back, we will delve into
Speaker 1: some things you can do in the garden, probably things
Speaker 1: you should have done last week, and we will take
Speaker 1: your calls. Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Speaker 1: We got up forty five minutes before Charlie Franket's here
Speaker 1: and we'll happily take calls throughout that entire time. So
Speaker 1: stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back. You're listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin.
Speaker 1: I'm here with John Butcher. He's got good friend, good
Speaker 1: looking guy, really smart, good answers questions, well.
Speaker 2: Good looking for the radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Steve Folks all the same things, plus my boss.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, So yeah, in about a half hour now,
Speaker 1: I'm about forty five minutes ish. Well have Charlie Franklin.
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to that. Talk about the the
Speaker 1: Red's Foundation. It's just such a unique and wonderful of
Speaker 1: entity or institution or foundation or whatever, and the work
Speaker 1: they do is so good, and we're at the zoo
Speaker 1: very very proud to be a part of it. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cool stories, a lot of good
Speaker 1: information that we can share with you about all of that.
Speaker 1: So until then, we will take your calls if you
Speaker 1: call us eight hundred eighty two, three eighty two to
Speaker 1: fifty five with any questions that you want to sling
Speaker 1: at us eight hundred eighty two three eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, fellas, let's talk about things we should
Speaker 1: have done last week.
Speaker 2: John Sure, So middle September, I really think September through
Speaker 2: middle of October great time to plant grass seed and
Speaker 2: right now if you're going to do big areas and
Speaker 2: you've got lots of weeds in those areas where you're
Speaker 2: going to do a kill out of that grass or
Speaker 2: weed or whatever it is, ahead of time last week,
Speaker 2: this week great time to get your herbicide down so
Speaker 2: that it's got time to kill and let the herbicide
Speaker 2: go away. And then that middle of September time frame
Speaker 2: perfect time to do a little light till and get
Speaker 2: your ass seed in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've always wondered what what the length of time
Speaker 1: you need to have between the herbicide application and the
Speaker 1: sowing seed and what is you're saying about a month
Speaker 1: six weeks?
Speaker 2: I think a month is pretty safe, but it does
Speaker 2: depend on the herber side, and and.
Speaker 1: There's anything with a pre emergent in it.
Speaker 2: There's other factors, and you really don't want to use
Speaker 2: a pre emergent at all. For us, this is this
Speaker 2: is all post emergent. But but this is a great
Speaker 2: time to do that without uh, because because you want
Speaker 2: to kill out all those weeds before you put new
Speaker 2: good grass seed down, because that's probably the reason you're
Speaker 2: doing it, because you got a bunch of garbage in
Speaker 2: your lawn. And I'm not a huge fan of lawn
Speaker 2: treatments and doing all the spraying all the time, but
Speaker 2: but this kind of thing, when you have a really
Speaker 2: noxious weed, I feel like it is a good way
Speaker 2: to hit the reset button.
Speaker 1: And I it's not the right time for it, of course,
Speaker 1: but you know, lesser celandine has become such a problem, uh,
Speaker 1: invading lawns and just covering them in what April till
Speaker 1: May maybe yep, and uh, you know, an orbicide treatment
Speaker 1: like a two four D product does a pretty good
Speaker 1: job on that, especially if you kind of follow up
Speaker 1: with the same thing a couple of years later, next year,
Speaker 1: and the year following.
Speaker 2: Every treatment I've ever done on that plant looks great
Speaker 2: by June, no matter how well I applied it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because it goes stormage on.
Speaker 2: Oh sucks, But you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't have success by treating it for sure.
Speaker 2: And not giving up on that all the way I
Speaker 2: think is critical because you're not gonna you're probably not
Speaker 2: going to win the battle all the way. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you just throw in your cards and fold.
Speaker 2: You want to. You want to, you want to fight
Speaker 2: that battle, because that's one of the most I don't
Speaker 2: know how it spreads. It's like a out of this world.
Speaker 2: The way that it can reproliferate.
Speaker 1: The thing I keep hearing, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's true or not, is that the little bulb bulbs
Speaker 1: or bulblets get caught in deer hoofs and gets spread
Speaker 1: around that way and maybe with other animals and probably
Speaker 1: by seed as well. So whatever way it's getting around
Speaker 1: it is getting around. There are areas along the Little
Speaker 1: Miami River that are dozens and dozens of acres of
Speaker 1: solids lesser celandine, and if you see a yard infested
Speaker 1: with it, it becomes.
Speaker 2: Covered in sunny for about a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, it's shiny foliage, beautiful, little
Speaker 1: yellow flower. And if you didn't know what you were
Speaker 1: looking at, you'd say, I want that plant, I want
Speaker 1: it in my garden. But you don't.
Speaker 2: Is there some horticulturalists like Steve, like some great horticulturists
Speaker 2: that introduced that to us long ago as the best
Speaker 2: plant that we can make fun of. Now do we
Speaker 2: know the answer to that?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Now it just happened to get here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, horticulture gets blamed for everything.
Speaker 1: I do know. That was never a common garden center plant.
Speaker 1: You know, there was one cultivar, remember, from twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: called Braisen Hussy. It was like a dark foliage kind
Speaker 1: and no one could barely even get that one to grow.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember ever seeing, you know, on the shelf.
Speaker 1: So I think horticulture is innocent on this one.
Speaker 2: And it's relatively new, like that wasn't around when I
Speaker 2: was right younger.
Speaker 1: Came suddenly, just very quickly. See, you have.
Speaker 4: Inspired me, John, to maybe redo my front lawn. I
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna do it this year. He is so right.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about that as I was, you know,
Speaker 4: cleaning up my oak tree and burning on it. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I thought I had grass here, but it's not grass.
Speaker 4: It's just green stuff. And you know, one thing I've noticed,
Speaker 4: if you know, I'm not big into herbicide applications on
Speaker 4: the lawn. I don't have lawn care. Some of the
Speaker 4: you know, areas around the zoo where we do have weeds,
Speaker 4: you have to mow a lot more because of the
Speaker 4: weeds rather than a good solid turf, And so reduction
Speaker 4: in your maintenance sometimes is you know, good for just
Speaker 4: to tame that weed pressure down.
Speaker 2: And some weeds are a lot nicer than others, like,
Speaker 2: for sure, clover, you know, that's the one that everybody
Speaker 2: seems to tolerate and appreciate and helps the bees out.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 4: Wild violets, and I think those are pretty Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I've treated my lawn twice in the whole
Speaker 1: thirty plus years at my house, but every now and
Speaker 1: then it just gets so wild and you just kind
Speaker 1: of have to go all right, this year is the year,
Speaker 1: you know, and then the garden looks or the yard
Speaker 1: looks great for a few years and then you come
Speaker 1: back around. We'll continue this discussion on things we should
Speaker 1: have done last week when we get back here after
Speaker 1: the break. You are listening to That's Guarden with Scott Berlin.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back. Uh. This is uh Let's garden with
Speaker 1: Scott Berlin here with John from Madison Try Care and
Speaker 1: Landscape and Steve Folds from the Cincinnati Botanical Gardener Zoo.
Speaker 1: And we have Charlie Frank coming in about a half
Speaker 1: hour with I'm sure will be a really fascinating discussion.
Speaker 1: And I've been miss misnaming the organized organization all morning.
Speaker 1: It's uh he's actually executive director of the Reds Community Fund.
Speaker 1: So make that correction and try not to make it again.
Speaker 1: I'll do that.
Speaker 2: We forgive you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a lot to people don't know how
Speaker 1: hard this job is. There's a lot going on, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm not that smart.
Speaker 2: And the people here can't see that. Steve's sitting behind you,
Speaker 2: breathing down your neck while.
Speaker 1: You're doing looming over.
Speaker 2: Yet I don't think they know that it's always been
Speaker 2: so hard.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We we have roughly a half hour to take your call,
Speaker 1: answer your questions eight hundred and eighty two three eighty
Speaker 1: two fifty five. In the meantime, we will continue talking
Speaker 1: about some things we should have done. Last week, John,
Speaker 1: you got another one.
Speaker 2: I think that, Uh, there's a great time to say
Speaker 2: working on your drainage problems. Actually, yeah, and this would
Speaker 2: be one last week two weeks ago, that Friday beginning
Speaker 2: of July. I forget what it was, but that was
Speaker 2: the craziest rainfall I've seen, five or six inches over
Speaker 2: in the High Park, Ugly areas, ugly, unbelievable, how fast
Speaker 2: that stuff came down and really started. And I know
Speaker 2: gardening and drainage aren't, but it does affect the landscape
Speaker 2: and if you get the grading right in the drainage right.
Speaker 2: And I think those are good things to work on
Speaker 2: in the summer months in the garden.
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's a good time to bring in dry soil
Speaker 1: if you need to build a slope up around your
Speaker 1: your foundation, yep, which is so critical if you've got
Speaker 1: soil sloping back towards your foundation. If you're not leaking already,
Speaker 1: you're bound for a leak. That water pressure builds up
Speaker 1: and it just it wants nothing more than to get
Speaker 1: in your house.
Speaker 2: And from a horticulture perspective, if you have plants that
Speaker 2: are sensitive to wet feet, when you plant some of
Speaker 2: those in slightly wet areas or areas susceptible to rain,
Speaker 2: you can plant those a little higher with the root
Speaker 2: flare above soil grade a little bit. And then what
Speaker 2: you do is you take soil and you make a nice,
Speaker 2: even smooth grade away from that and you create kind
Speaker 2: of like the foundation of your house where you're just
Speaker 2: making sure the water is not sitting right on the
Speaker 2: root ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that crown has an opportunity to dry out
Speaker 1: right between rainfalls and so forth. Right.
Speaker 2: So, just little things like that that I think are
Speaker 2: good summer touches for the garden.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. I'm glad you made that, Steve Well.
Speaker 4: I tell you I love planting and fall, and you
Speaker 4: know now's the time to go through your yard, look
Speaker 4: at your gaps. And you know I did this last week.
Speaker 4: I walked around. Yeah there's a section that you know,
Speaker 4: the perennials died out, or yeah, I have a failure.
Speaker 4: And then most people think, well, I'll get to that
Speaker 4: in the spring. Well, we're all super busy in the spring,
Speaker 4: and we never seem to get to it. But now,
Speaker 4: you know, we're headed into cooler temperatures. Now it's a
Speaker 4: great time that it's dry. Sometimes in April and May,
Speaker 4: it's so wet in your yard it's hard to landscape.
Speaker 4: So now would be a good time to survey your yard,
Speaker 4: get a plan together, and get some perennials. You know,
Speaker 4: late late August, early September, great time to be planting
Speaker 4: in the garden.
Speaker 1: I like pushing it back a little bit later because
Speaker 1: you know, there's something that happens. You know, you go
Speaker 1: from October with the dry air, blue skies, full sun
Speaker 1: every day, and then all of a sudden, sometime in
Speaker 1: November early November, the switch gets turned and it's going
Speaker 1: to be grace skies for the next five months and
Speaker 1: a lot of rain. And I just you know, if
Speaker 1: you can water, you can water. Yeah, October for sure,
Speaker 1: even September, but I like November because it's just amost
Speaker 1: a fail safe that we're going to have the rainfall
Speaker 1: and you don't need to get out there all the time. Now,
Speaker 1: some things you don't want to go that late. With
Speaker 1: evergreen you shouldn't really be planning evergreens or broad leaf evergreens.
Speaker 4: And when you get into like southern magnolias, you don't
Speaker 4: want to be planting them late. Phdodendrons, you know, things
Speaker 4: like that. But you know when you get to evergreens
Speaker 4: like spruce or pine, absolutely, now it's a great you know,
Speaker 4: then be a great time. I mean here we're talking
Speaker 4: about you know, if you can water, you can plant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 2: And I've had some issues where if I've dug late
Speaker 2: in the season, like a through your plocata, the western
Speaker 2: arbor vity I've had in a really cold winter, I've
Speaker 2: had those struggle. But planning them late if they've already
Speaker 2: been dug, I've not had had nearly as many issues with.
Speaker 2: But I do think you have to be careful moving
Speaker 2: around some of those plants when you get into really
Speaker 2: cold temperatures. Yeah, and some plants take it really well.
Speaker 2: My one comment on the perennials getting in a little
Speaker 2: earlier is with the smaller containers and pots. If you
Speaker 2: can get those established and just get a little bit
Speaker 2: of root before the winter, it's it stops some of
Speaker 2: the heaving that will happen in the winter. So I
Speaker 2: think if you can water, there is an advantage to
Speaker 2: strike excuse me striking just a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you do good soil prep there
Speaker 1: it's a nice fluffy, loose soil, those roots get established
Speaker 1: so much faster and better than if it's you're just
Speaker 1: chiseling in the clay. You know that those will tend
Speaker 1: to pop out pretty pretty readily in some kind of frost.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be a chiseler. Don't be a chisler. Be
Speaker 4: a tiller and a mender and a good steward of
Speaker 4: the soil. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Mult is part of that mulch organ it matter.
Speaker 1: We have Christina on the line. She has a question.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we're going to be able to answer,
Speaker 1: but Christina, can you go ahead and state your question
Speaker 1: for us?
Speaker 9: I wonder what the shelf like on honey would be
Speaker 9: the shelf life because I came across a jar that's
Speaker 9: about twenty years old. I know you have beach keepers
Speaker 9: that come on your program, and I just wondered if
Speaker 9: I could get an answer about that.
Speaker 2: I am not an expert in bees or honey, although
Speaker 2: I do have hives and we're collecting now. But I've
Speaker 2: heard that honey never goes bad, is what I've heard.
Speaker 2: And that's something that I think you could probably look
Speaker 2: up on Google really easily. But I believe that to
Speaker 2: be true, that it's good for as long as longer
Speaker 2: than us. Probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's oh, you know, I would test it out.
Speaker 1: Maybe someone you don't like so much first.
Speaker 9: Well, yes, that would be the thing to do. And
Speaker 9: the woman that called in about Lily of the Valley,
Speaker 9: one of our cats, one I've always liked to compleet
Speaker 9: Lily Valley and she did get sick from the flowers
Speaker 9: and everything. So yes, I do believe that it is
Speaker 9: poisonous to animals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so Sarah Gaiger Beam, who frequently co hosts
Speaker 1: with me, is listening, and she she just texted that
Speaker 1: repeated string trimming on Convaleria or Lily of the Valley
Speaker 1: works pretty well. I would just say, if if you
Speaker 1: can just be on the safe side, if you're string trimming,
Speaker 1: it it's poisonous. Wear a mask and eye protection, eye
Speaker 1: protection too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, well, thank you for your help today.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if I she might text with an answer
Speaker 1: to your honey question too. So if you're not quite
Speaker 1: trusting John on this one.
Speaker 2: Don't trust me, honestly, do not do not trust me.
Speaker 1: I stay tuned because I might have an answer for
Speaker 1: you here coming up.
Speaker 9: All right, then, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Uh. For things that we should have done
Speaker 1: last week that I have on my sheet, here is
Speaker 1: one is place your bull order. You know it's you
Speaker 1: talk about fall planting. You're gonna want to plant some
Speaker 1: bulbs and uh, you know, if you wait too long,
Speaker 1: stuff gets sold out and you're out of luck for
Speaker 1: another year until you forget it the following year, and
Speaker 1: then you forget it the year after that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: jump on your bulb order. I am shifting in my
Speaker 1: bulb sort of preference. Uh. You know the bit I
Speaker 1: always like daffodils way more than toilips. Just don't do
Speaker 1: that great. It is a repeat uh plant Uh, And
Speaker 1: but the daffodils always come back and their deer proof
Speaker 1: and all those things. But I'm getting a little worn
Speaker 1: down by the big flowers, the ones with big flowers,
Speaker 1: because they their death is so so ugly, you know,
Speaker 1: when they start and you want to try to keep
Speaker 1: the foliage for as long as you can, and you
Speaker 1: know they start to decompose and drip and hang over
Speaker 1: your other plants when they're all starting to emerge. And
Speaker 1: so I'm heading in the way of the really small daffodils, crocuses, kyananthus,
Speaker 1: things like that that fit really well in the garden
Speaker 1: and don't make such a heartbreaking, ugly display, just as
Speaker 1: the rest of your garden's really coming into its own.
Speaker 1: I did get an answer from Sarah. She said they
Speaker 1: found it, and the pyramid's good in the comb, so
Speaker 1: that that's as about as indefinite as you can get.
Speaker 1: But it's unlike leah jar is airtight. Might have to
Speaker 1: scrape off the top layer of honey. Great idea, you know,
Speaker 1: scoop up the top quarter inch half inch, and it's
Speaker 1: still tested out on somebody you don't really.
Speaker 2: Like that's right. Have you ever experienced honey like from
Speaker 2: a tree that's fallen over and then the comb's left
Speaker 2: in there and like right out of the and a
Speaker 2: wild hot It's amazing and you put the whole like
Speaker 2: the the whole comb in your mouth and it's like
Speaker 2: a little waxy. I've never experienced any flavor profile like
Speaker 2: that in my entire life. Is amazing. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: ever get the chance to do that, snack on a
Speaker 2: little bit of it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that like in the Smokies or somewhere
Speaker 1: where bears are prevalent. You don't want to between it,
Speaker 1: be between a bear and the honey. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that good that I would fight a.
Speaker 1: Bear for it. No, I agree, No, you can buy
Speaker 1: it at the store too. Not as good as off
Speaker 1: the comb in the woods. It's not as good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not as good. Who else has something to say for
Speaker 1: a job in the this time of year?
Speaker 4: You know, I mentioned this earlier this week. It's sometimes
Speaker 4: your containers on your patio, you know some of them fail.
Speaker 4: You still have two two and a half months left,
Speaker 4: so go out and get yourself some good, hardy annuals.
Speaker 1: And garden centers carry them all summer long anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's some beautiful like Mandevilla and Diplodonia
Speaker 4: that they're that are rock solid this time of year.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, like I said, you put them in.
Speaker 4: You still have good two and a half months to enjoy.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, stepping stone paths, little hardscape projects goes along with
Speaker 2: the drainage. But things that aren't necessarily horticulture, but but
Speaker 2: accent to horticulture and the function of the landscape I
Speaker 2: think are great, great things to work on this time
Speaker 2: of year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll go ahead and take a break
Speaker 1: and when we come back, it looks like we have
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Speaker 1: And welcome back. I'm here with John, but you're from
Speaker 1: Madison Tree Care and Landscape. It always looks weird in
Speaker 1: your email because it's like empty candle or something like that.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the older email than there's a new
Speaker 2: one that's Madison Tree sin cy C I n S. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we switched about ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're still answering my emails at the old one.
Speaker 2: You don't You don't ever want to shut the old.
Speaker 1: One, No, you don't, right, Yeah, And with Steve Folts,
Speaker 1: my boss, director of Forta Culture at the Cincinning Zoo
Speaker 1: and Potanical Garden, just got word that Charlie Frank is
Speaker 1: in the building. We'll have him up here in about
Speaker 1: ten minutes and that will be fun. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: we have Mary pat Uh from Newport on the phone.
Speaker 1: Mary pat Well, what can we do for you today?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 10: Boy, I have I have a large vegetable garden. I'm
Speaker 10: getting old and I can't take care of it anymore.
Speaker 10: But it's like, I have this invasive mulberry weed.
Speaker 3: Do you know?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's an annual weed. Yeah. It it goes to seeds
Speaker 1: so insidiously you won't even notice it's flowered and it's
Speaker 1: gone to seed and the little axles of the leaves,
Speaker 1: and if you're not on top of that all the time,
Speaker 1: it will seed again on you. I assume your question
Speaker 1: I jumped in on you. I guess your question is
Speaker 1: how to take care of that?
Speaker 10: Well, well it is and it's just horrible. And one
Speaker 10: on my questions is have you ever used one of
Speaker 10: those porches to torch your weeds with? I don't know
Speaker 10: if this work.
Speaker 1: Well, I've guys go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the weed torches do work, but often I
Speaker 2: don't know about this mulberry weed in particular, but if
Speaker 2: they have a strong root system or network below the ground,
Speaker 2: the torches really aren't good for getting root killed. They're
Speaker 2: good for taking the foliage off and plants that are
Speaker 2: really newly rooted and don't have a big root system
Speaker 2: or just aren't real big root.
Speaker 1: This is for annual weeds, so I'm a little more
Speaker 1: optimistic that the torch would work on it.
Speaker 2: And you also have to be really careful not to
Speaker 2: catch the mulch on fire because it can actually smaller loathing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I really commercially reserve that for creekstone and
Speaker 2: pavers and things where there's just nothing organic because the
Speaker 2: risk of catching something.
Speaker 1: On fire is real.
Speaker 2: But if you do it after a big rain and
Speaker 2: you've got water ready to go, I think it'd be
Speaker 2: worth a try. And I'm not discouraging you, but there
Speaker 2: is a big caution that those torches can be really dangerous.
Speaker 10: I'm ready to burn it all down on telling you
Speaker 10: it's so awful, but I was gonna wait until after
Speaker 10: what little vegetables I have are done, and maybe the
Speaker 10: spawl to it. But yeah, the seeds are horrible. I
Speaker 10: mean they just go everywhere.
Speaker 1: You could use a pre emergent on it, since it
Speaker 1: is an annual weed. The only problem is it's in
Speaker 1: your vegetable garden and you likely will be planting seeds
Speaker 1: out there, and so that wouldn't work. But maybe you
Speaker 1: could pick up part of your garden each year and
Speaker 1: hit it with some early pre emergent, Like I would say,
Speaker 1: it's a warm season weed, so I would say March
Speaker 1: or April, maybe even a little later, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: just pick a section, knock it back, try to string,
Speaker 1: trend or pull what you've got as much as you
Speaker 1: can elsewhere and keep the rotation going.
Speaker 10: Okay, I'll give it a shot. I hope I live
Speaker 10: long enough to see good result.
Speaker 1: I hope you do too.
Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Thank you for the call. You know, I've
Speaker 1: got an embarrassing story about that weed is I introduced
Speaker 1: it to my garden by accident. So every year I
Speaker 1: get Rock Garden Society seeds in and grow them and
Speaker 1: I don't know what what seed I was thinking. I
Speaker 1: was growing what was labeled as but it was mulberry weed.
Speaker 1: And I didn't recognize it for being that weed either
Speaker 1: in the seed trays. And and I nurtured. I nurtured
Speaker 1: that mulberry weed along and along and planted it out
Speaker 1: lovingly and watered, you know, studiously, and uh introduce so
Speaker 1: terrible weed in my garden. I am getting on top
Speaker 1: of it. Though. Perseverance does pay off on it.
Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent with that.
Speaker 2: Your yards so cool. You got so many interesting things
Speaker 2: and layers and diversity in your yard. It's one of
Speaker 2: the coolest yards.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it.
Speaker 1: And if you ever want to come see my mulberry weed,
Speaker 1: I'll show it to you.
Speaker 2: Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll share it with you too.
Speaker 2: You take some home.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that to you. I always want to
Speaker 1: emphasize weeding, you know, things we should have done last week.
Speaker 1: Always weed. Get out in your garden every week. Weed
Speaker 1: and observe, you know, look for things that aren't quite right,
Speaker 1: you know, plants that are struggling a little bit, things
Speaker 1: that you never saw before. You know, just keep an
Speaker 1: eye on things. And when you see something that's odd,
Speaker 1: you know, do a little research about it. See if
Speaker 1: you have to do anything or not. You probably won't, But.
Speaker 2: Can I throw out an organic solution that I think
Speaker 2: the last caller might try on our garden. It's the
Speaker 2: vinegar mix. So so at one gallon of regular distilled
Speaker 2: vinegar five percent and then you're gonna do two cups
Speaker 2: EPs and salt, quarter cup of traditional blue dawn mix,
Speaker 2: all that up into a spray bottle and if it's
Speaker 2: hot out and sunny, it will it will burn everything
Speaker 2: back to the ground very very effectively. And once again,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to kill the roots,
Speaker 2: but maybe because it's an annual and I think you
Speaker 2: may in a vegetable garden have to worry about build
Speaker 2: up of the salts and stuff if you're doing that
Speaker 2: over time. But I think if we're just trying to
Speaker 2: section that, that could be a really good solution for
Speaker 2: not getting the chemicals in our garden for later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good points. You know, just be careful with vinegar.
Speaker 1: It's very acidic and if you get it in your eyes,
Speaker 1: you could be in big trouble. And be careful where
Speaker 1: you spray. If you get on insects, they could be
Speaker 1: burned as well.
Speaker 2: There's nothing safe to spray.
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4: That's why you need to keep planting and keep that
Speaker 4: garden full.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we will have Charlie Frank with
Speaker 1: us from the Reds Community Fund. Brenda, I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to hold on your call until maybe eight
Speaker 1: forty five if you want to stick around that long.
Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a few minutes.