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Speaker 1: Sara.

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Speaker 2: My next guest is a bearcatz legend. It's one of

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Speaker 2: my all time favorites. Captain Team MVP is a senior.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and three, led the Bearcats and scoring

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Speaker 2: fifteen point seven points per game. He dropped thirty nine

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Speaker 2: on UCLA and a double overtime loss in the two tournament.

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Speaker 2: Seem to remember him dropping thirty six on De Paul

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Speaker 2: at another point. What a treat to welcome in the

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Speaker 2: former Bearcat Leonard Stokes, How are you.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good man? Man? That's a good intro. Man.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that you got it. You got it is

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Speaker 2: great hearing your voice. Let's start here, and I know

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Speaker 2: Bearcat fans are all ex I don't know. You're excited.

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Speaker 2: Let's trace this back. Tell us about your relationship with

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Speaker 2: Jerry Calhoun. How far back it goes, and kind of

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Speaker 2: how your pads crossed over the years.

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Speaker 1: Oh agenty man forty four. So I met just, I

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Speaker 1: I met jer probably. I think it was the year

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Speaker 1: after I graduated. I think that was the James White

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Speaker 1: Eric Hicks.

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Speaker 3: I think it was that team, and I would I

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Speaker 3: would be like most of the former guys, I would

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Speaker 3: come back in the summer and that's when the office

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Speaker 3: was wasn't in the basketball areen anymore. They moved it

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Speaker 3: to Edward's and we were kind of going back and

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Speaker 3: forth there. But I've met Jared that was probably two

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Speaker 3: two thousand and five. Man, man, two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, it seems like everybody I talked to at some

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Speaker 2: point in the conversation, I have mentions how how much

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Speaker 2: of a grinder he is and how much of a

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Speaker 2: sponge he is for information. Does that fit with the

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Speaker 2: way you've experienced him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, man, I mean just I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: it's funny how.

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Speaker 1: The world the world works, right, like, you know, you treat.

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Speaker 3: People the way that you're supposed to be treated, and

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Speaker 3: it always comes back for a throttle. So me, he

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Speaker 3: and I had that conversation because when I was coming

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Speaker 3: man on the total pole, assistant, you know, manager, coach,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just like, you know, he's just talking and talking,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, this guy never he's just asking

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Speaker 3: a million us a million questions. But I mean that's

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Speaker 3: just his He was a sponge man, it's his personality.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: He followed hugs at West Virginia, so I got to

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Speaker 3: see him while I was there visiting.

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Speaker 1: But he's always been the same.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Mick would have practices when he

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Speaker 3: was you know, while he was coaching.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and he you know, he would come sit and practice.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he is, he's a sponge man, he's

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Speaker 3: a you know, he's he loves the game of basketball.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 2: And you still, for those who don't know, you still

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Speaker 2: keep in touch with him even today.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, yeah, I spoke with him a little bit,

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Speaker 3: a little bit earlier. I know teas are we talked

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Speaker 3: over the text. He's supposed to give me a call

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Speaker 3: some at some point today. I know those press conferences tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: which would be big. But yeah, you know I talked

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Speaker 3: with him over the years. Always always keep in touch.

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Speaker 1: Man. I have a really good relationship. A lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for for for Jared Man. I'm glad he's glad

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Speaker 1: he's back home.

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Speaker 2: Give Bearcamp fans an idea of the vibe among all

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Speaker 2: of the former players. You have a circle of friends,

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Speaker 2: former teammates, the vibe has got to be off the charts.

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Speaker 2: And because he's i mean, he's part of the family.

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Speaker 1: Isn't he Yeah, he's definitely part of the family.

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Speaker 3: Man. This was you know, kudos to John and Pencil

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Speaker 3: for getting this done.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think.

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Speaker 3: He's he's I think he's a perfect guy for the job.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's taking Utah State to back to back

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Speaker 1: That that that arena was rocking and rolling.

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Speaker 3: Man, if you if you watch those games, I mean

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Speaker 1: You know, it's put together a really good roster.

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, I think he's gonna come

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Speaker 1: In uh in the Big Twelve Conference, Boy and Leonard.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that there are guys who pay

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Speaker 2: their dues. They climb the ladder. And when you're winning

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Speaker 2: at Youngstown State and winning at Utah State, you're doing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, you know, that's track record. Man.

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Speaker 1: I mean to win at both those places.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that can be a little tough.

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Speaker 3: I don't cameras money you have. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: certain guys want to be in certain places. Man. I

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Speaker 3: think Cincinnati is a destination and I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: with with the budget we have and with with him

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Speaker 2: Leonard, what are the traits in a in a UC

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Speaker 2: team you'd like to see?

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Speaker 1: What? What?

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Speaker 2: What do you want to see out of UC basketball?

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Speaker 2: The DNA of what they're all about Under Jared Calhoun.

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Speaker 1: I think Jared will bring you back to where it was, man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's he's done some time under Hugs.

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Speaker 3: You know he's got you know, he's done some you

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Speaker 3: know some have a good relationship with Mick. I think

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Speaker 3: you know, I think defensively, we'll get back to getting

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Speaker 3: diving on the floor, you know, taking chargers, you know,

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Speaker 3: lose balls. I think, you know, his offensive promise is good.

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Speaker 3: I love, you know, the sets that he runs. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think we'll get back to We'll get things back

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Speaker 3: to where, you know, where they used to be. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I get the arena back rocking and rolling.

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Speaker 2: Man. I looked this up earlier today and it's almost

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Speaker 2: impossible to believe, but it's true. Since your sweet sixteen

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Speaker 2: team of one and that was the loss to Stanford.

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Speaker 2: U see has been doing one Sweet sixteen since then.

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Speaker 2: That's gotta frustrate you, and you and you gotta believe

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Speaker 2: that that Jared can can get that going in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's there's there's a lot of things, man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know those guys across town. The last

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Speaker 3: number one in the country that year. But that was

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Speaker 3: to we got a lot of things to check off

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Speaker 3: this list to get back to to get back to

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Speaker 3: where we need to be, man. But yeah, that that uh,

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Speaker 3: that's Sweet sixteen team.

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Speaker 1: You know it was Kenny Saderfield, Logan, myself, Donald Little,

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Speaker 1: So we had a you know, good run there. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got to get back to relevancy. Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is my favorite time of

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Speaker 3: the year, you know, March madness, and it just stings

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Speaker 3: when we're not a part of it. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: don't care if we're going to play one game, when

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Speaker 3: one game, but just get in, you know, let's let's

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Speaker 3: just get in I mean, it's just very frustrating to

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Speaker 3: especially during the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the tournament time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, update listeners, Where are you these days? What are

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Speaker 2: you up to these days?

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Speaker 1: So I got my real estate development company Clover.

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Speaker 3: We developed senior housing in a partnership with my men

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Speaker 3: tour Mike Joseph. So, you know, doing that and that's

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Speaker 3: going really really well. So just continuing to do that

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Speaker 3: and grow. And then you know, just being around the

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Speaker 3: and then Buffalo some time in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: But you know, just you know, Sincy, Sinci.

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Speaker 3: Man. You know, I love to everyday heartcore blue collar folks.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, they don't let you forget those days, man,

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Speaker 3: and some of the memories that you've created for man.

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Speaker 3: And like I said yesterday, told I said, man, I

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Speaker 3: went from hey, lend me take a picture with me,

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Speaker 3: to take a picture with my son, to take a picture.

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Speaker 1: With my grandson. I'm almost getting to the great grandson.

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Speaker 1: I say.

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Speaker 2: That's funny, man, I am. I'm so happy for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of all your success. And it was

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Speaker 2: really cool that you made time tonight. It was a

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Speaker 2: great catching up with you and getting perspective on all this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for making time.

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Speaker 3: Anytime, Lancey, anytime you know you guys ever needed.

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Speaker 1: Anything, I'm here, man. I appreciate you guys. And uh

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Speaker 1: and keep up to good work. Sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Leonard, thanks us all right, there you go, Lenny Stokes, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was. And I'll admit Chad Breundle plant of the

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Speaker 2: seat in my head when I had Chad on last

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Speaker 2: night and he mentioned on their show last night, the Nightcap,

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Speaker 2: they were going to have Leonard on, and I'm like, oh, yeah, geez,

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Speaker 2: I haven't talked to Leonard forever, so sent him a

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Speaker 2: text and figured he would lend some interesting perspective on

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Speaker 2: someone he's known going back over twenty plus years. Still ahead,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into a little bit more on this Gerald

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Speaker 2: Jared Calhoun and something Chad said last night about Calhoun

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Speaker 2: and his offense is ahead and plenty of Red's conversation coming.

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Speaker 2: It's Ronel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevel Life

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