1 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Our three twin cities news talk Am eleven thirty one 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: three five FM from the sixty five to one Carpet 3 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: plus Next Day install studios. Final week before I head 4 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: off on vacation. I'm glad you're with the show. We'll 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: see if I can get to that stack of evergreen stories. Unfortunately, 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: the news has been difficult to keep up with, especially 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: over the weekend. 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I mean you 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: have a couple. 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I had to go back and look, I'm curious who 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: left the most talkbacks with one friend of the show. 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: I think it was Raquel As. She left like one 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight or something like that. That's a lot. 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: How many talkbacks have you left, Brett? 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: You've been disguising your voice many Yeah, unaware letting your 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: letting your political opinion out there without attributing it to 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: your name. 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm doing, Jonathan and justin ooh sorry, 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: go here, hey, John. 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: What you just said was incredibly profound. Where the criminals 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: are realizing that the politicians that represent half of the 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: country are on their side. And my question is, at 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: what point, and this is why so many people call 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: for the purp walks. At what point does those election 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: certificates stop being a shield because these people are promoting 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: criminal behavior, They are complicit, They are themselves criminals, whether 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: they want to admit it or not. And this is 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: why people are sick. 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Of I get it, I hear you, but it also takes. 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Legal maneuvers to go and make those things happen, and 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of times those are difficult to come to, 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: difficult to find if they're not there. When it comes 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: to elected officials, they are very clever and how they 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: associate themselves with particular groups, those that may be committing wrongdoing, 50 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: turning a blind eye to issues like fraud like what 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: has happened here in Minnesota. 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: I get it. 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: I see the comments all the time from people that 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: say they'd love to see Governor Tim Walls arrested. But 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: unless you have the actual criminal wrongdoing in front of 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: you to go the charging, you know, the things to 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: charge an individual with, just being the governor of Minnesota 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: in the wake of all this fraud isn't enough. Now, 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: we'll see what these investigations will bring. Over the weekend, 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: you had House Chairman the House Oversight and Accountability Committee 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Chairman James Comer said he was willing to subpoena Walls 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: over the fraud scheme here in Minnesota if anyone has 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: received correspondence from US thus far requesting information, if they 64 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: don't turn it over that information, they will get a subpoena. 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: And we are serious about this. We're not going to 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: back down. Comer warned in an interview with Just the 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: News of wanting to get documents from Minnesota to look 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: into a further investigation into what has transpired under the 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: leadership of Governor Tim Walls, or lack thereof. 70 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Comber noted. 71 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: To Just the News that Walls and other Minnesota officials 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: like Attorney General Keith Ellison have hid as the investigation proceeds. 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, Walls gets due process, but the way he's 74 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: handling this and the way that Ellison in the Attorney 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: General has kind of hit it right now makes me 76 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: pretty confident that there's a massive amount of waste of 77 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: fraud and abuse that's to be detected here. I'm going 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: to predict that Walls's political career is closer to an 79 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: end than somewhere in the middle, which is why he 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: may be announcement Friday after the show was over that 81 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: he would be launching his new fraud prevention program. 82 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Again. 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: This would be like. 84 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Launching a program to shore up luxury ocean going liners 85 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: after the Titanic has already sunk, rearranging the deck chairs 86 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: on the Titanic, but the Titanic has already sunk to 87 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean and you're rearranging those deck chairs. Now, 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: it's kind of pointless to get out ahead of the fraud. 89 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: Dude. It's a little late for that. 90 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: But on Friday, working off the version of the story 91 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: from alphin News, Walston announced a new statewide fraud prevention 92 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: program and the appointment of Minnesota's first fraud czar. As 93 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: a national media coverage intensifies over repeated fraud schemes tied 94 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to the state public programs, many of which involved members 95 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: of the Somali community. Walls has named Tim O'Malley, the 96 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: interim Chief and Judge of the Minnesota Court of Administrative Hearings, 97 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: former Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension superintendent and FBI agent, 98 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: to oversee the effort. Bill Klawn rites of the new 99 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: anti fraud czar and says this at American Experiment dot org, 100 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: writing as a former energy zar for the state of Minnesota. 101 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: I do love a good bizar appointment, says Bill. Conspicuents 102 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: by the absence today at the press conference was the 103 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: state's top legal officer, Attorney General Keith Elison, Lieutenant Governor 104 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan. I don't think flan again and Wallzer on 105 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: very good speaking terms. Today's announcement, by the way, this 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: would be Friday, included a partnership with a third party 107 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: private vendor, because what is a new program without being 108 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: able to go and spend more taxpayer dollars on said 109 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: new program. So in the middle of tackling waste, fraud 110 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: and abuse, we're gonna go and waste more money because 111 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: this program is completely unnecessary. We have all the means 112 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: already in place here in Minnesota via our Minnesota government 113 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: to go and tackle this particular issue. 114 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 2: There is no need for a fraud per program. 115 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: There is no need for a frauds are This is 116 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: all just political theater to make it act like Walls 117 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: is suddenly going to do something about this, as he says, 118 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: I just fix things. The private vendor is Waypoint Ink 119 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: of Minnesota based professional service, former law enforcement and federal 120 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: special agent specializing in forensic accounting, financial investigations, due diligence, 121 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: business risk mitigation, healthcare compliance and investigations, and tax litigation support. 122 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Bill goes on to say today's announcement appears to be 123 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: at least the third attempt by Walls to get ahead 124 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: of the multi billion dollar multi fraud scandal. He had 125 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: previously issued an anti fraud executive order in January and September, 126 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: both of which had little effect, and this is also 127 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: going to have little effect. Now here's the first clip 128 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: of Governor Tim Walls, and we'll get into more of 129 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: these coming up in just a moment. 130 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: On whinsaid his news talk. 131 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: But he was asked if he takes responsibility for the 132 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: fraud and then gives a rather all these answers are bizarre. 133 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Walls is a master at the nonsensical word salad. He 134 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: just says enough words, puts them in order where they 135 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of make sense. But if you actually go and 136 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: try to break down what it was he actually said, 137 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: it's next to nothing. 138 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I take responsibility for everything. I take responsibility 139 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: for COVID, I take responsibility for George Floyd. I take 140 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 5: responsibility for balancing the budgets. And I do take responsibility. 141 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: Let me stop here really quick. He's totally annoyed by 142 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: the question. That was pure sarcasm. I take responsibility for that. 143 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: I take responsibility for George Floyd. See he throws that 144 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: in there because he wants to diminish the value of 145 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: what he has to say. He wants to diminish the 146 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: value of the question being posed by the member of 147 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: the Press by throwing George Floyd in there, because this 148 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: is not a part of the discussion that we're talking 149 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: about fraud that happened under his watch as governor, where 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: you had DHS officials turning a blind eye to the 151 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: dramatic increase in funding requests for these various programs. 152 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: We're making this shape one of the best in the 153 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 5: country for children to live, so the outcomes. I also 154 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 5: note to folks that the one airport that has remained 155 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: on time is Minneapolis Saint Paul. I take responsibility for that. 156 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: I appoint everybody to the MAC Council and I am 157 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: fully responsible for it. So I'm not sure Minnesota's know 158 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: that part I'll take. 159 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: He hates all of this. 160 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: He does not handle scrutiny because up until now he 161 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: really hasn't had any. I mean even the time when 162 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: he was spent running his VP. This all should have 163 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: been front and center, and it wasn't. Thankfully, the country 164 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: rejected him. We were way too close to having that 165 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: individual in a further place misition. 166 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: Of power in the White House. 167 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: So thank the Good Lord Almighty for small miracles, but 168 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: he does not handle the scrutiny. And that's evident in 169 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: the other audio that I'll share with you coming up 170 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: here on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and 171 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: one oh three five FM, including your comments from the 172 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. 173 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: John tim and Chicago City good morning. Are you sure 174 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 6: he didn't mean he was appointing a fraudulent czar and 175 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,359 Speaker 6: not a fraud csar? Just looking for clarification. 176 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Hell a good day, eleven thirty one three point five 177 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: and on the iHeartRadio app, you know it very wise 178 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: beyond his years. Commentator had mentioned that Wall's naming this 179 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: Tim O'Malley as the interim Chief Judge of the Minnesota 180 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Court of Administrative Hearings and former Minnesota Bureau of Criminal 181 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Apprehension superintendent and FBI agent as the new czar of 182 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota's fraud prevention program. 183 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Perhaps you install. 184 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: The czar only too later on fire the czar in 185 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: order to give off the perception that you're doing something 186 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: about it. Well, if more fraud is discovered now goes 187 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: to the czar. 188 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: See look, I'm doing something about it. I wouldn't put 189 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: it pass Walls. 190 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: O'Malley previously served as BCA superintendent under former Governor Tim Polenti. 191 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: Later worked as the with the Archidiocese of Saint Paula Minneapolis. 192 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: In addressing the clergy abuse scandal, said the assignment is 193 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: not political. Come on and emphasize his emphasize his independence 194 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: from the governor. I do want to offer two thoughts 195 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: at o'mealey. One is an observation and one is a 196 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: point of clarity. The observation is the obvious one. No 197 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: one has any tolerance for fraud at erodes trust and 198 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: must be addressed. Minnesotans deserve to know that their tax 199 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: dollars are being put to good use. We have our 200 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: work cut out for to rebuild that trust. He added 201 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: a point of clarification, know that I'm not here to 202 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: serve walls. I'm not here to serve any individual. I'm 203 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: not here to serve a political party. I'm here to 204 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: serve Minnesotans and listen all with whole judgment and trust 205 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: that that's the case until I see something Differently, to 206 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: say I'm skeptical would be an understatement and based off 207 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: of this comment alone from O'Malley, no one has any 208 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: tolerance for fraud. The Walls administration certainly did for far 209 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: too long, which is why we're in the situation that 210 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: we're in. It's the only reason why this fraud prevention 211 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: program exists in the first place is that Walls tolerated 212 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: the fraud. Ellison tolerated the fraud, the Democrats, the DFL 213 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: tolerated the fraud, or just simply said there wasn't any fraud, 214 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: O'Malley said. Walls reassured him that all of us have 215 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: the freedom and autonomy to act, to do whatever is 216 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: necessary to solve this. And you believe him, I certainly wouldn't. 217 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: Hey warn't. John Bruce is shackby. 218 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 7: In that little blurb of Walls, he said that he 219 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 7: appointed the people at the Met Council. I mean all 220 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 7: those people that waste all that money to make the 221 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 7: planes run on time at MSP. But guess what, the 222 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 7: met pone Airporce Commission runs MSP totally independent, and I 223 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 7: don't think the Met Council has a thing. 224 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 6: To do with it. 225 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 7: That guy just lies every time his lips are moving. 226 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Day Walls framed Friday's announcement is part of a larger 227 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: effort to address fraud while conceding shortcomings and how his 228 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: administration was handling the public messaging. So Bill clawn Center 229 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: of The American Experiment his coverage on this says today's 230 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: announcement appears to be again at least a third attempt 231 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: for Walls to get something done about this multi fraud scandal. 232 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: It's not clear how the duties assigned to the anti 233 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: frauds are differ from those that would have gone to 234 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: the proposed statewide Office of Inspector General. Exactly what I 235 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: was talking about. There's no need for this program. We 236 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: already have infrastructure and money in place to go and 237 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: tackle this. The OIG proposal, by the way, was shot 238 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: down by a single vote from Democrats in the state 239 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: legislature last session. Now, as per usual during this one 240 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: hour press event, answers provided by Walls, he operates in 241 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: a reality that no one else is familiar with. 242 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: A telling question was posed. 243 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: About forty minutes in to the announcement of the fraud 244 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: prevention program, where Walls was asked whether he would like 245 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: to see more condemnation of fraud from leaders in the 246 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Somali community, and this is how he responded. 247 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 8: For a small community to say we are we need 248 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 8: to look at ourselves. We need to hold our home 249 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 8: games accouble because a little bit of damage that. 250 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: This is doc form cut. 251 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 8: What do you want to hear more of it stead 252 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 8: of just saying don't wig us? So you want to 253 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 8: see more ownership and oversight from getting. 254 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 5: Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case, 255 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 5: there's a lot of white men should be holding a 256 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: lot of white men accountable for the crimes that they 257 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: have committed. I think for the community to maybe educate 258 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 5: their population because I think what you're seeing here is 259 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: their secondary. 260 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Let me stop here really quick, because he me anders here 261 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: for another thirty seconds, and I want to set the 262 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: stage on this first off. He's clever in his nonsensical 263 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: word salads only because it tells you how stupid he 264 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: thinks you are. It tells you how stupid Governor Tim 265 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Walls thinks that the. 266 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Press corps is that the voters are. 267 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: He reframes the argument away from what the reporter was 268 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: asking and he brings in this, well, if we're going 269 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: to go in point to one community, then we might 270 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: as well be you know, appointed a white guys, and 271 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: white guys better be apologizing because of all the crime 272 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: that white guys go and perpetuate, which goes and reframes 273 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: the issue at hand, diminishes the importance of the question 274 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: the reporter was asking of whether or not because ninety 275 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: percent of this fraud is being perpetuated by the Somali community, 276 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: if you would like to see more in that community 277 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: address the situation. And then he attempts to go and 278 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: actually answer the question by providing nothing of substance. At 279 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: one point when he's talking, he looks over to his 280 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: right at one of the other officials that's standing with 281 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: him during the press conference in order to get a 282 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: head nod acknowledgment to a nonsensical statement that he makes 283 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: to try to bring validity to what it is that 284 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: he is saying. In the middle of saying nothing, it's 285 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: all like a magician's trick, and it's on full display 286 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: for everybody to see. 287 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: Victims in this that there's providers inside the community that 288 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: are then victimizing the cretia himself by signing them up. 289 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 5: Because when we're going to some of these people, they're like, 290 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 5: I had no idea I was in this program, so 291 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: I think it's it's ask. 292 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: And that was the moment, he's talking about some other 293 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: aspect of how there are individuals who are impacted by 294 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: this who had no idea because in the programs people 295 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: were signed up for, they had no idea that they 296 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: were signed up for. It is a true aspect of 297 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: the fraud taking place, but is completely irrelevant to what 298 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: the reporter. 299 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: Was actually asking. 300 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: It's just a fact that he threw in there so 301 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: he could form and string together some sort of sentence 302 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: to make it sound like he's actually going and addressing 303 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: the curiosity from the local media. 304 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 5: King us. Then, you know, for every crime, which of 305 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 5: course the majority being committed by white men, asking us 306 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 5: to do more about that, I think it's crime in general, 307 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: and I think the biggest thing on this is is 308 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 5: just making sure that we're educating the population. And again, 309 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 5: this is eighty people or so that have been convicted 310 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: in this. Maybe some more in that. 311 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: What is he talking about that had nothing to do 312 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: with the question that was posed. She does this almost 313 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: every single time, Bill Walsh an American experiment giving credit 314 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: where credit is due. It's Wall's shorthand speak. 315 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: And I hope that the media has. 316 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Been doing a better job holding Walls accountable they're willing 317 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: to go and ask the questions in the wake of 318 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: all of this, and I'm very appreciative of that. I 319 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: think we all are. We need to taking a step further. 320 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: We need to follow up nonsensical word salad answers like 321 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: that with what are you talking about? You didn't answer 322 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: my question. I don't know what it is that you 323 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: just said. It would have been completely legitimate for that 324 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: reporter to go just. 325 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: Really quick, Governor. 326 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I can't make sense of what it is that you 327 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: just mentioned because you did not make any sense. You 328 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: sound like Gary Pusey right now for crying out loud. 329 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: All right, we have more audio of walls coming up 330 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: in just a moment. 331 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: There's a fair warning. 332 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: I have a really interesting before and after from DFL 333 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: Representative Zach Stevenson. How two weeks ago he was very 334 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: worried about what Trump was doing regarding immigration and our 335 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: Somali community and not bringing attention to it, and then 336 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: suddenly now he's talking about it as if they're going 337 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: to go and solve the problem in a completely hypocritical stance, 338 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: versus what he said just two weeks ago. I have 339 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: the audio evdence to share with you. And we'll get 340 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: to your talk back of the day brought to you 341 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: by Minnie Leaf too right here on Twin City's News 342 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: Talk Am eleven thirty and one h three five FM. 343 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 8: Warning and I love your show all right. 344 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Before we get back to. 345 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls and his fraud prevention program press conference 346 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: from Friday, I want to mention this briefly. I gotta 347 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: get to your talk back of the day brought to 348 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: you by Minnie Leaf as well here in the sixty 349 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: five to one carpet plus Next Day Install studios on 350 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Twin Cities News Talk in the seven o'clock hour. And 351 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: if you miss this, be sure to check out the 352 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We talked about the principal 353 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: any Dinah Schools that was threatening to discipline or suspend 354 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: students if they happened to take a pro ice stance. 355 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: That's essentially what he was saying. 356 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: The Department of Justice has filed a racial discrimination lawsuit 357 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: against Minneapolis Public Schools. Maybe their lawyers should gear up 358 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: for a free speech lawsuit against the Dinah. The lawsuit 359 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: says MSP has given preferential treatment to black teachers, teachers 360 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: of color, and underrepresented teachers in violation of federal law, 361 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: and according to the federal lawsuit, MPs and the collective 362 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: bargaining agreement with the Minneapolis Police excuse me, Minneapolis Teachers' 363 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: Union also underrepresented teachers to be exempt from layoffs in 364 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: certain cases, prioritizing for reinstatement after layoffs, and exempt from 365 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: being involuntarily resigned. The lawsuit notes that, upon information and 366 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: belief underrepresented populations like by POC individuals otherwise known as black, Indigenous, 367 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: or people of color, discrimination is unacceptable and in all forms, 368 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to hiring decisions. Attorney General Pambondi 369 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: said in the statement, our public education system in Minnesota 370 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: and across the country must be a bastion of merit 371 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: and equal opportunity. Sorry, we will certain continue to follow 372 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: and to see if the Department of Justice looks into 373 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: other moves made by our public schools. All right, with that, 374 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: let's get back to fraud and this includes your talk 375 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: back of the day brought to you by minileafanmanileaf dot com, 376 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: m I n ny L EAF dot com. Head on 377 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: over to their website and check out their amazing products. 378 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: The Republicans need to start their own fraud prevention campaign 379 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: and it's running against Walls and Ellison, so that should 380 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: be a new campaign slogan. This is my fraud prevention 381 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: fire Ellison Firewalls. 382 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: I actually like that. 383 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: It's the GOP fraud prevention program. Elect Republicans, thank you 384 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: that you are the recipient to gusts of the talkback 385 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: of the day, brought to you by many le Republican 386 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: leaders at the Capitol criticized Walls at his announcement, arguing 387 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: that the new fraud Prevention Office adds bureaucracy without addressing 388 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: accountability for past failures. Lisa Damouth, House speaker and gubernatorial candidate. 389 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: After burying his head into sand about fraud for nearly 390 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: two full terms, the governor has suddenly decided someone should 391 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: do something about it. The move is too little, too late. 392 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: He failed to root out fraud and his agencies. He 393 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: failed to hold anyone accountable, he failed to take responsibility 394 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: for what he allowed to happen, and now he wants 395 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: to sweep all his failures under the rug. The time 396 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: for the program integrity was years ago. Now it's time 397 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: for accountability. House Republican floor leader Harry Niske tied the 398 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: announcement to political pressure. Facing the governor for nearly a decade, 399 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: Walls lost billions of taxpayer dollars to fraud and has 400 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: done nothing to stop it. Niska said, Now, with an 401 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: election fast approaching and fraud his most serious political vulnerability, 402 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: the governor is scrambling to paper over his epic failures. 403 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: Minnesotan's understand the timing and see this for what it is, 404 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: a loitical calculation meant to save face. He did not 405 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: do a very good job on Friday. That's an understatement. 406 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: Let's get some more of his clips. His press conference 407 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: started out with Walls going and criticizing the president. 408 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: Not a huge surprise here, And look. 409 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 5: I have to assess this too. I understand when I 410 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness to Minnesota, 411 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: and this is all about coming and attacking us. 412 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 6: He didn't know anything about this. 413 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: He doesn't know how Medicaid program works. The only thing 414 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: he knows about is going to double the cost over 415 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 5: the next week. But he doesn't know how these programs 416 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 5: work or anything about it. So he heard and somebody 417 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: told him the Somalis are stealing money and they're not 418 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: doing anything about throw it up there. That's not how 419 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: the US Attorney's office works. 420 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: It's the beginning part of his statement here makes me laugh. 421 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 5: And look, I have to assess this too. I understand 422 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 5: when I speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness 423 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: to Minnesota. 424 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: And this is all he said a simil comment when 425 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: he was speaking to the group in Seattle because he'd 426 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: run away out of stage to a couple of events 427 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the heightened scrutiny that was taking place, 428 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: but basically said that the fact that he says this 429 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: is being Walls like over the top outrageous things. It 430 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: was the President's fault because it brings out the worst 431 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: in him. He can't even take responsibility for what he 432 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: has to say with his commentary. 433 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 6: Tim Walls is not a bright man. 434 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: He constantly speaks on that on this in that he 435 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to speak. 436 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 6: And I think it's. 437 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 9: Partly to do because every time he's speaking, he's lying 438 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 9: and trying to make everything up as he goes along. 439 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 6: He has to go people. 440 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 5: But I want to address at the top here two 441 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: of our fellow Minnesotans, two of our fellow American citizens, 442 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: two of our fellow Minnesota American citizens who were minding 443 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: their own business and living their lives were detained by 444 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 5: and arrested by Ice. 445 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: They were not minding their own business, they were not 446 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: just going about living their lives. They were getting in 447 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: the way of federal law enforcement. 448 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: These chaotic operations are doing nothing to make us safer. 449 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: These chaotic operations are not done in any coordination with 450 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 5: law enforcement in the middle of a blizzard. 451 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: And these are all such platent lies. They're only chaotic 452 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: because of the activists. That's the only reason why they're chaotic. 453 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for activist observers as they like to 454 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: call themselves, showing up and getting in the way of 455 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: law enforcement, none of these situations would even be talked 456 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: about beyond the criminal being arrested. 457 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: And then two this lie that they're not even working 458 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: with local law enforcement. 459 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: You're preventing that from happening. The various city leaders of 460 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: your party are preventing that from happening. 461 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 5: The absolute recklessness of doing some of this, and the 462 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 5: targeting of a specific community unconscionable, does nothing to either 463 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 5: address immigration. It certainly does nothing to address fraud. 464 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: By the way, why is this targeting of a specific 465 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: community only go one direction ninety of the fraud being 466 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: perpetuated by one particular group. 467 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: Is that not a targeting of. 468 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: Taxpayer dollars tax paying citizens. I mean it could be 469 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: framed that way if you wanted to. I'm not saying 470 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: that it should, but given Governor Tim Wall's assessment of 471 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the targeting of one community, you could take that, spin 472 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: it back around and be like, well, why is it 473 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: ninety percent of one community is targeting fraud wasting the 474 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars of everybody else in programs? 475 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 5: It is very specifically aimed and very racially motivated towards 476 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 5: a Somali community that matters greatly here. I know there 477 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 5: was a hearing yesterday to get some answers on this. 478 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 5: The DHS secretary left no reason, stood up and left 479 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 5: that hearing. I have not received a response to my 480 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: letters asking about explanations on what's happening. I would note 481 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: that I was in that hearing and I stayed for 482 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: the eight and a half hours and answered all the questions. 483 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 5: I think the expectation would be in a moment like this, 484 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: where American citizens constitutional rights are being violated and put at. 485 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Risk nobody which constitutional rights are being violid? Has anybody 486 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: been charged with violating somebody else's constitutional rights? Or is 487 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: he just making stuff up again. Here's more of what 488 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Walls had to say from the press conference on Friday. 489 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is eighty people or so that have been 490 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 5: convicted in this, maybe some more in that out of 491 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: a broader ring. Medicaid broad Wall stretch across all racial demographics, 492 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 5: all ethnic groups. So I think it's really important for 493 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 5: us to note each each community's got this in their 494 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: own Mitch. But to blame them and say that they 495 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: should have been responsible for stopping it, I think that's 496 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: a pretty hard reach. I think we continue to educate 497 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: folks about why. 498 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: How was that a hard reach? 499 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: You had individuals that were being bought off so that 500 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: their children could be included and counted as being autistic 501 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: even though they weren't autistic. 502 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: They were being silenced. 503 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Using the fraudulent taxpayer money that was brought in from 504 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: these criminals. No, it's not a stretch to ask why 505 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: individuals in the community didn't speak out more. But we 506 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: know how Walls feels about whistleblowers, how frustrated he got 507 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: over the four hundred and some odd DHS whistleblowers pointing 508 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: out what a failure he has been as governor of Minnesota. 509 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 6: They shouldn't commit crimes. 510 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 5: You would hope that it's being taught both at home 511 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 5: and at schools and in our society. But no, I 512 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 5: think this idea that the Somali community is to blame 513 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 5: for this because they didn't do more. I think that's 514 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: how we got into this, and that's you know again, 515 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: don't I know, We're not going to lose the whole 516 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 5: plot here, all this work that's being done. Donald Trump 517 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 5: brought this to the attention like this is something brand new. 518 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 5: This is not brand new, and it's been being worked on, 519 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: but he made it white hot and very dangerous. 520 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: We know it's not brand new. 521 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: You've had individuals out there, You've had different outlets, American Experiment, 522 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: Alpha News, this Show that have been pointing to this fraud. 523 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: I've been talking about this. You didn't care, Governor Tim Walls. 524 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: You didn't care until it became a political liability for you. 525 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: Nobody is saying it's new. 526 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: We've all been pointing out how interesting it's been watching 527 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the country catch up to what we've 528 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: known about here for years. 529 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, John, I hope you're doing well. 530 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 8: Great show is always I've been over the course of 531 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 8: the last several years on the camp of Walls. 532 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 6: Just isn't that bright. 533 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: I've changed my tune with a lot. 534 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 6: Of what I've seen. 535 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 8: I think he's probably bright enough. 536 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: I just think the problem is he's evil. I think 537 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: he's got evil tendencies. 538 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 8: I think he's corrupt in every sense of the work 539 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 8: and knows it. 540 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: Just my opinion, Yeah, Alison, And this was shared yesterday 541 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: during the event that I attended. How when Walls arrived 542 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: on the scene, he had presented himself as this Democrat, moderate, 543 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: law abiding, well not law abiding, but a gun owner, 544 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: pro Second Amendment rights. But then once he became governor, 545 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: he flipped the switch because it was more politically advantageous 546 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: for him to become a radical. And he slowly has 547 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: moved that way because that's who he truly is. Oh. 548 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: He also continues to push lies apart from fraud. He 549 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: had this to say about the Trump administration reporting a 550 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: deported military veteran to South Korea. He's pushing this Lae. 551 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. 552 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 5: Obviously, they took American citizens. They deported a US combat 553 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: veteran who served this nation in uniform and deported him 554 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: to South Korea country he has not been in since 555 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: he was eight years old. 556 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 6: So I want to address yeah. 557 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: And Governor Jim Wlls, why did they deport him? 558 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Say, June Park was deported because he had prior criminal 559 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: convictions and he's self deported. Just add it to the 560 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: list of lies. The governor goes and perpetuates. All right, 561 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: let's go here with this because this cracks me up. 562 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: So I'm online and I'm doing my show prep and 563 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Representative Zach Stevenson, he had this post regarding fraud just 564 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: a day or two ago that really stuck out to 565 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: me because it was like this too little, too late, 566 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: sudden outrage, burst of concern relating to fraud. So I 567 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: did a little bit more digging, and I want to 568 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: set the stage here. So this was December third, about 569 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: two and a half weeks ago, Okay, where you had 570 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Zach Stevenson saying, what's happening in Minnesota right now is 571 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: the worst of what Donald Trump does best. He's trying 572 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: to distract us from his own failures by shifting the 573 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: blame here's his comments. 574 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 9: The worst of what Donald try T does best. It's 575 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 9: his go to move when he finds himself in trouble 576 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 9: on the political ropes. He distracts, divides, and demagogues. It's disgusting, 577 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 9: using real people as pawns as he desperately tries to 578 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 9: change the subject. Minnesotans know that their costs are rising 579 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 9: because of his tariffs and his terrible big bill. Healthcare 580 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 9: costs in particular are soaring, and the President is desperate 581 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 9: to change the subject. But scapegoating the Somali community won't 582 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 9: decrease the cost of healthcare. The Somali community is part 583 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 9: of the fabric of Minnesota, and the House, DFL and 584 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 9: all of Minnesota will always stand with the Somali community 585 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 9: when the President targets them for his own political benefit. 586 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. 587 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: So this was in the wake of Trump wanting to 588 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: end the temporary protected status that brought all of this 589 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: to the national attention, and thank you Trump for doing that. 590 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 591 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: So, at the time, Representative Zach Stevens is like, can't 592 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: talk about the fraud, can't talk about illegal immigration, that's 593 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: political opportunism. But now that the fraud is front and Center, 594 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: he's all about calling out the fraud, and where in 595 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: his initial comments there on December third, taking issue with 596 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: anybody that would bring in the Somali elemented to fraud 597 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: because it's factual, right, can't do that. That's horrible, that's racist. 598 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: And yet without naming that community specifically that's responsible for 599 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: ninety percent of that fraud, he's now drawing attention to 600 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: the crime being perpetuated that by that community and the 601 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: very thing the President spoke out against that Zach was 602 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: so upset about less than two weeks ago. He posted 603 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: this online over the weekend. Every dollar of fraud is 604 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: unacceptable and I'm outraged by it. Every dollar of fraud 605 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: is one that should be going to help people. The 606 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: programs targeted by fraudsters serve homeless people, people with disabilities, 607 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: and kids with autism. What kind of person steals from 608 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: kids with autism? 609 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 2: I laughed out loud when I saw this post. 610 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: Kay, where you been? 611 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 7: Dude? 612 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: You're just now outraged because we've known about this for months, 613 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: if not longer. 614 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: Where was your outrage overfeeding our future? 615 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: I certainly couldn't find any comments from Zack Stevenson regarding that. 616 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean he may have, but I couldn't find him 617 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: and I went looking. 618 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: He goes on to right, we will continue to take 619 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: on the greedy scammers who cheap Minnesotans out of public 620 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: resources and steal from Minnesota taxpayers. Anyone who steals money 621 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: from the most vulnerable Minnesotans belongs in jail. Yeah, they're 622 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: all talking tough now, they're all talking like, hey, we're 623 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: going to tackle this. 624 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: We care about it. 625 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: They didn't give a rip until this became an issue 626 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: that could actually impact the impact them at the ballot box. 627 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: They couldn't have cared less if they tried, And now suddenly, 628 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: how jare a person steal from kids with autism? He's 629 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: not wrong, it's just the fact that only now he 630 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: seems to actually care about it. Thanks for hanging out 631 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: on the show this morning. If you missed any portion, 632 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: check out the podcast. Thank you for listening to the podcast, 633 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: available on the iHeartRadio app Back. 634 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: At it tomorrow six oh six. 635 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: On tomorrow show, Devid carthin Stein Ross will make his 636 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: final appearance of twenty twenty five, and we'll continue to 637 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: cover the news of the day. You got more fraud 638 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: to dive into as well. Have yourself a fantastic Monday. 639 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Stay warm, bah, Well. 640 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: What's going to trump? Derangement problem? Have you heard about 641 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: that problem?