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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the latest edition of Cincy three sixty coming

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Speaker 3: We'll get to those this afternoon in the second hour

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Speaker 3: of today's show. Welcome into the first day of I

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Speaker 3: guess we could call it now the NFL offseason edition

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Speaker 3: of since He three to sixty, and we will talk

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Speaker 3: all things Super Bowl sixty. Last night, the Seahawks dominate

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots all across the board. We'll recap

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Speaker 3: last night's game will close out the NFL season, and

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Speaker 3: we'll look ahead to the early odds for next year's

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl contenders and of course when things like that

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Speaker 3: happen when the Super Bowl concludes. And a team that

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Speaker 3: going into the season last year was plus six thousand

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Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl, that was what the Seattle

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Speaker 3: Seahawks were. If you bet the Seahawks to win it

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Speaker 3: all in the preseason, plus six thousand is the odds

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Speaker 3: that you were looking at. So everyone wonders, well, if

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Speaker 3: they could do it, how can we do it? How

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Speaker 3: can the Bengals replicate what the Seattle Seahawks did. That's

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Speaker 3: the question everyone's going to ask ask, So we'll try

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Speaker 3: to answer that question.

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Speaker 2: This afternoon.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about some Bengals related issue or topics that

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Speaker 3: came up over the weekend, a conversation about the Bengals

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Speaker 3: ideally and looking to spend more money this offseason, and

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Speaker 3: then watching the Super Bowl coverage yesterday, it's revealed that

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Speaker 3: there still could be a path There still could be

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Speaker 3: an option for the Cincinnati Bengals to franchise tag Trey

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Speaker 3: That was a topic of conversation over the weekend, so

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Speaker 3: it will be a topic of conversation.

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Speaker 2: For us today other NFL news.

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Speaker 3: The combine. The NFL Combine is now two weeks away,

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Speaker 3: and since it's Monday, we will do ourselves a mock

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Speaker 3: draft Monday today. The only thing I asked Austin, and

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Speaker 3: mock draft that does not have the Cincinnati Bengals selecting

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Speaker 3: a corner at number ten?

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Speaker 2: We are two for two on that on the season.

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Speaker 4: want you to be surprised. It may not be who

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Speaker 4: but there's some things said about the Bengals over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: I said it a couple of weeks ago, I heard

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Speaker 4: Monday we have today is actually a lot more likely

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Speaker 4: to do between now and the NFL Draft, which is

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Speaker 4: just seventy five days away or seventy I had it

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: One other NFL note as we get into the offseason,

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Speaker 4: It was one of those prospects that made a lot

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Speaker 3: But what an awful, awful way, Austin, to just throw

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just in San Francisco for the NFL

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Speaker 4: So really sad to think that, you know, those two

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Speaker 3: Doubt, James Pierce set a rookie record for the Falcons

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Speaker 3: ten and a half sacks in twenty twenty five. Other

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Speaker 3: news to get to today Major League Baseball. The Pittsburgh Pirates.

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Speaker 3: They may a little bit of a splash they land

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Pirates. Pitchers and catchers report to today today, Tone,

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Speaker 3: we got a lot of Reds to talk about, not

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Speaker 3: in the World's World Baseball Classic. And the vet Emilio

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Speaker 3: or not Emilio au Haineo, how many times am I

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Speaker 3: We will talk a little Reds today with pictures and

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Speaker 3: catchers reporting. We'll talk some things to watch and MLB

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Speaker 3: Network MLB dot Com had seven predictions to beat the

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Speaker 3: winter blues and celebrate spring with pitchers and catchers reporting,

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Speaker 3: we'll dive into that this afternoon as well. How about

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Speaker 3: this Austin. We are right on the on the on

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Speaker 3: the cusp, on the precipice of FC Cincinnati returning to action.

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Speaker 5: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: MLS season is right around the corner. FC Cincinnati right

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Speaker 3: There are also reports Austin, multiple reports that David Beckham

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine? What else do we have? Oh? We'll talk.

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Speaker 3: Are we allowed to say anything about halftime last night?

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Speaker 3: Can we talk a little bit about bad Bunny?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're allowed to say whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I thought, in the least political way ever,

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Speaker 3: Bad Money last night. I thought the production was incredible.

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Speaker 3: I thought the storytelling was incredible. I thought how they

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Speaker 3: I don't speak Spanish, so I don't know what he

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Speaker 3: and I think it's awesome some of the messages that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the way I would describe it is like I

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Speaker 5: And it's just like.

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Speaker 4: It feels like there's no room to meet in the middle.

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Speaker 4: But I agree with what you said. I thought you

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Speaker 3: Also, for the first time since I can remember, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is what it is now.

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Speaker 4: So many of them have already like been released on

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Speaker 4: social media prior to the game and it may save

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Speaker 5: I don't know. There was a couple good ones.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Budweiser one was really cool with the

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Speaker 4: eagle and the horse, but that was released like two

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Speaker 4: nine to nothing, like you're in the whole time, you're

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Speaker 4: in the game. You can still run the ball. They

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Speaker 4: said that at halftime, keep pounding the ball. Also didn't

442
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Speaker 4: see like any sort of misdirection, like get the ball

443
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Speaker 4: in the hands of Stefan Diggs on a bubble screen

444
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Speaker 4: or on a quick screen, or do a reverse like

445
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Speaker 4: Seattle did with Rashid Shahed or faked the reverse to

446
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Speaker 4: make them respect it, like they're just it felt like

447
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Speaker 4: to me a lack of creativity from a guy on

448
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Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels who just went won the Assistant Coach of

449
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Speaker 4: the Year award and is as experienced, if not the

450
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Speaker 4: most experienced coach in the Super Bowl offensive coordinator in

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl of all time.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was also unique, I thought last night, Austin, because

454
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Speaker 3: New England gets nothing going on, and then the streaker

455
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Speaker 3: comes on the field, and then they go back to

456
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Speaker 3: back plays and Drake May finds Mac Collins for a touchdown. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 3: and then they get the immediate stop.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some sort of like energy shift from that person

459
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Speaker 4: to mess Collins think.

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Speaker 3: They got the immediate stop. And then on the next drive,

461
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Speaker 3: Drake May missed a wide open Austin Hooper and then

462
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Speaker 3: throws just a terrible interception where it felt like he

463
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Speaker 3: was taking a chance with like two minutes left in

464
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Speaker 3: the game, when in reality they had plenty of time.

465
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Speaker 3: You could have still taken some checkdowns, move the ball,

466
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Speaker 3: you had all three timeouts. Instead, it felt like Drake

467
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: May panicked, felt like he pushed the ball a little

468
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Speaker 3: bit too much, and in return, Seattle's defense becomes even

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Speaker 3: more dangerous.

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Speaker 4: Will Campbell allowed fourteen pressures from his left tackle position

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Speaker 4: last Thewsers. That is the most of any player in

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Speaker 4: a game this season. Yikes, And that right there will

473
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Speaker 4: kind of tell you why Drake May was maybe not

474
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Speaker 4: himself and I think maybe it kind of got downplayed

475
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Speaker 4: a little bit throughout the week. Was the shoulder injury

476
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Speaker 4: that he dealt with. Yeah, I took an injection before

477
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Speaker 4: the game off of the injury report, but yet still

478
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Speaker 4: is getting an injection. And you know, I think it

479
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Speaker 4: was Melissa Stark before the game was like, Oh, he's

480
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Speaker 4: good to go, feels good, no issues. Okay, Well, there

481
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Speaker 4: was a couple of misfires there that make you wonder

482
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Speaker 4: is there still something going on with that shoulder because

483
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Speaker 4: they were just flat out misses.

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Speaker 3: I'll ask last night from the quarterbacks whose view changed more,

485
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Speaker 3: if any, last night, because I think Drake May, I mean,

486
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Speaker 3: he very well could have won MVP this year. He

487
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Speaker 3: was bad last night, twenty seven to forty three to

488
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Speaker 3: two interceptions. But here's Sam Darnold, who is this story

489
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Speaker 3: of a player that was seemingly written off by a

490
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Speaker 3: lot of people. I thought it was awesome last night.

491
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Speaker 3: He kind of highlighted his parents' role in what he's

492
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Speaker 3: done and believing in him and giving him that belief

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Speaker 3: in himself that he's able to do it. But do

494
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Speaker 3: you view now the path of Sam Darnald any differently?

495
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Speaker 3: Do you view the path of Drake May going forward

496
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Speaker 3: any differently based on last night.

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Speaker 4: I think to me the impact is more on Drake May,

498
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Speaker 4: just because we've seen so many times over the years

499
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Speaker 4: a young quarterback gets to the Super Bowl and they

500
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Speaker 4: never get back and there are a ton of plays

501
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Speaker 4: from that game that he would like to have back. Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's going to be the story

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Speaker 4: with Drake May, just because of the situation that he's

504
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Speaker 4: in and how well run the Patriots are, especially with Rabel,

505
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Speaker 4: I think it's almost with the Sam Darnald thing, this

506
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Speaker 4: is unfair to him because he is still a really

507
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Speaker 4: young player. I mean, same age as Josh Allen and

508
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Speaker 4: all those guys. Crazy to think about, but it does

509
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Speaker 4: feel to me like Okay, that's the cherry on top.

510
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Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like, Okay, the Seahawks are about to

511
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Speaker 4: become a dynasty. You feel like they're gonna have something

512
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Speaker 4: to say about the NFC for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 5: But you don't know.

514
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Speaker 4: It's not like okay, and you got the odds. I

515
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Speaker 4: think is Seattle favored to win the Super Bowl now

516
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Speaker 4: next year?

517
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Speaker 3: Right now Seattle and Los Angeles are co favorites.

518
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: Interesting to win next year Super Bowls.

519
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but I maybe I'm

520
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: I'm wrong here, Maybe I'm alone in this, But it

521
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Speaker 4: feels like, Okay, that was a cool moment. That was

522
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: a cool story, Sam Darnald, you get to check that

523
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Speaker 4: box off the list. But maybe we're not going to

524
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Speaker 4: see that level of play from him. It's crazy to

525
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Speaker 4: say because you just proved all the doubt are wrong.

526
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: You just proved everybody wrong. Y I can do this, Okay,

527
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, nice, that was a cool story. Yep,

528
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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's coming back. You know all those other quarterbacks

529
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Speaker 4: weren't available in the AFC. Like there's It's just a

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Speaker 4: way to shift the conversation right away, which I shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be doing on the Monday after a team went like

532
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Speaker 4: like Sam Donald, a team like Seattle and a player

533
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Speaker 4: like Sam Donald wins the Super Bowl. But I don't

534
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Speaker 4: know that it shifts the way I think about Sam.

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Speaker 4: I guess is to answer your question, I guess it

536
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Speaker 4: doesn't change the way I speak about it.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I want to do. Let's let's take a

538
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: break when we come back from this. Let's start discussing

539
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: a little bit more of those twenty twenty seven or

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six twenty seven early odds for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And of course the question now will we'll transition here locally,

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Speaker 3: how can the Bengals replicate something that Seattle Seahawks were

543
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Speaker 3: able to do at a very high level. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to that still here and our number one. We'll also

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Speaker 3: grab some of your phone calls along the way. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty on the whole of the Bengals. This is

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Speaker 3: Sincy three to sixty. Thanks to our friends at Skyline Chile, there.

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Speaker 2: Is an affordability correck in the action.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Sincy three sixty is back now on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Sincy three sixty. Thanks to Skyline Chile. You're

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Speaker 3: listening on the home of the Bengals. It's ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. As the Super Bowl concludes, and we

554
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Speaker 3: now start to look ahead to the combine in two weeks,

555
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: we will get into a mock draft Monday, but you

556
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Speaker 3: always have that look ahead. Once the season ends, you

557
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: get right into the twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven

558
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: look ahead and right now these odds set earlier today,

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Speaker 3: co favorites to win the Lombardi next year, the Seattle

560
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams right now each plus

561
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Speaker 3: nine fifty Austin, So nine to fifty you can get

562
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Speaker 3: the Rams, you can get the Seahawks as co favorites

563
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl. After that, the Buffalo Bills

564
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Speaker 3: plus eleven hundred, the Philadelphia Eagles plus thirteen hundred, also

565
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Speaker 3: at thirteen hundred, Patriots and Ravens get to plus fourteen hundred,

566
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Speaker 3: the Packers and the Lions teams at plus fifteen hundred,

567
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Speaker 3: the Chargers and the Chiefs. The Niners are plus seventeen hundred,

568
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Speaker 3: the Broncos plus eighteen hundred, the Houston t plus two thousand,

569
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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars plus twenty two hundred, and then at

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Speaker 3: plus twenty five hundred the Bengals and the Bears. Right

571
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Speaker 3: now the Lombardy odds for next year now mentioned before Austin.

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Speaker 3: Going into the season, Seattle was plus six thousand to

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Speaker 3: win the Lombardi Trophy. That would mean current teams like Washington, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Indy,

574
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Speaker 3: and the New York Giants are all in that window.

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Speaker 3: That the Seahawks were at this time last year first

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Speaker 3: and foremost. Out of those teams, which team do you

577
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Speaker 3: believe would have the best chance to do something and

578
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Speaker 3: turn it around?

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Speaker 4: Washington, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, and Indianapolis and the Giants probably Indianapolis.

580
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: Tampa's plus four thousand, which is a little bit interesting

581
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Speaker 4: to see what they do in the offseason, and the

582
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Speaker 4: Falcons are plus eight thousand if you want to buy

583
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Speaker 4: in at all to the defense and Bijon and Drake London,

584
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Speaker 4: although James Pierce Junior is likely not going to be they.

585
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 5: Might be drafted a edge rusher.

586
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of plus twenty five hundred for

588
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals.

589
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Speaker 5: It sounds about right.

590
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen teams picked ahead of them from an odd

591
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Speaker 3: standpoint right now, So I would say that's pretty good

592
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: value right now for the Bengals at plus twenty five hundred.

593
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Speaker 5: I don't as you're not going to get it any better.

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: That's to say, I don't assume at this point that

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Speaker 3: that number goes the other way, correct. I think that

596
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: number would get smaller throughout. They are plus twelve hundred

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Speaker 3: beyond Jacksonville, Houston, Denver, Kansas, City, the Chargers, the Ravens,

598
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Speaker 3: the Patriots, and the Bills to win the AFC as

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Speaker 3: well going into next year. So I don't know. I

600
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Speaker 3: it's it's hard to forecast this early on. But if

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Speaker 3: you are one that is kind of buying stock Austin

602
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: and saying, Okay, if the Bengals are going to be

603
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Speaker 3: more aggressive than usual and they are going to be

604
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Speaker 3: willing to spend more so than usual, then plus twenty

605
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Speaker 3: five hundred's probably the best you're gonna get it at

606
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: dive in. Yeah, because if they do what we hope

607
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: and they do what we think they possibly can do

608
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: this offseason, then I would imagine that that number finishes

609
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: much closer to kind of where the Lions and the

610
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: Chargers are sitting out around plus fifteen hundred.

611
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Speaker 4: One month from today is the beginning of the legal

612
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Speaker 4: tampering period, which is when guys start to negotiate, and

613
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Speaker 4: then of course, once the new league year happens, then

614
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Speaker 4: those deals all become official. We talked in the past,

615
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: it was a couple of years ago where as soon

616
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Speaker 4: as the new league year happened, Alex Kappa and Ted

617
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Speaker 4: Karris BEng they're Cincinnati Bengals, I want that type of

618
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Speaker 4: free agency, that type of offseason for the Bengals against like,

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Speaker 4: boom right away, here's a pass rusher, boom right away.

620
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: Here's a cornerback, boom right away. Here's a safety, here's

621
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Speaker 4: three guys that can help our defense right away. And

622
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Speaker 4: maybe it's a trait. I thought it was interesting that

623
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Speaker 4: the news came out over the weekend. I think it

624
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: was Mike Garifolo of NFL Network saying, Hey, the Bengals

625
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: are open to possibly tagging and trading Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

627
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Speaker 4: That was a shock to me because everybody we've been

628
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Speaker 4: hearing talk about this says, yeah, that's over, not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Bengals are gonna let him walk and he'll they'll get

630
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Speaker 4: their third round pick in twenty twenty seven. Well, if

631
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Speaker 4: this team is expected to win now and is trying

632
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Speaker 4: to win now, and we've talked about the fire under

633
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 4: the butt of one Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor, well

634
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Speaker 4: then one of the ways you could win now is

635
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Speaker 4: get that third round pick this year in exchange for

636
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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson and address the defensive issues. I wonder if

637
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: that's something that will happen and to bring the point

638
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: back full circle. If they do, if they are aggressive

639
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Speaker 4: and do stuff like that, those odds will certainly change.

640
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Speaker 3: On top of that, Ian Rappaport spoke on Super Bowl

641
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Speaker 3: Sunday about the Bengals off season plan and this is

642
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Speaker 3: kind of you tied up to what Duke Tobin said

643
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Speaker 3: and what Duke implied and the season ending press conference

644
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Speaker 3: about being aggressive and trying to put together an offseason

645
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Speaker 3: that can add an injunction injection of smart free agents.

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Speaker 3: Rappaport said, quote, I do expect the Bengals to take

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Speaker 3: his words and kind of use it to spur them

648
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Speaker 3: onto a little bit of a spending spree this offseason. Now,

649
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 3: this is talking about what Joe Burrow had to say

650
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Speaker 3: and kind of putting a little pressure on he said.

651
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: Burrow was clear talking during the Pro Bowl he liked Cincinnati,

652
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: saying basically during the press conferences kind of just had

653
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Speaker 3: a bad day.

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Speaker 2: Those are allowed.

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Speaker 3: But I expect the Bengals to enhance and support everything

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow does, to spend more, probably on defense than

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Speaker 3: anything else. So again that begs the question what does

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Speaker 3: that look like? And two with this Trey Hendrickson situation,

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Speaker 3: coming like. I don't think and as you mentioned, I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's tag and play Trey Hendrickson. I think

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Speaker 3: it would be tag trade and see if you can

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Speaker 3: recoup a third round pick now, because you're supposed to

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Speaker 3: be in win now mode. And if so, that's the

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Speaker 3: type of move Austin that we've discussed that can signal

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Speaker 3: a different attack and a different tone setting the offseason.

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Speaker 4: I think the other possibility, the other side of the coin,

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Speaker 4: this I think is maybe the least likely. But let's

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Speaker 4: say that there is interest in these two parties staying together.

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Speaker 4: Trey wants to come back, the Bengals want to have

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Speaker 4: him back. Maybe it's just play another year on one

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty percent of his salary on that franchise tag.

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Speaker 4: Does that become more viable if the Bengals go to

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Speaker 4: guys like Joe Burrow and maybe Jamar Chase or other

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Speaker 4: restructurable contracts within the ecosystem right now and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: we're going to do a simple restructure here. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: do a simple restructure here. We're gonna do a simple

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Speaker 4: restructure here that's going to take care of the Trey

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Speaker 4: Hendrickson money and oh, by the way, we still have

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Speaker 4: the money we need to fix the other parts of

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Speaker 4: the defense through free agency in the draft. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that's likely, but that is tech nically still a possibility.

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Speaker 4: I would love to see them do that, even without

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Speaker 4: signing on to another year of tagging Trey Hendrickson. I'd

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Speaker 4: like to see them open up more cap space to

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Speaker 4: be able to spin, and I hope they do. But

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Speaker 4: if that all of a sudden is on the table again,

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Speaker 4: according to Mike garri Fulow of NFL Network, then it

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Speaker 4: makes me wonder. Okay, are the Bengals looking around and saying,

689
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Speaker 4: let's exhaust every avenue here, Let's open up the cap space,

690
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Speaker 4: let's try to keep Trey. Don't think that's happening, but

691
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Speaker 4: you got to make space for that possibility.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the idea, though, as you just said,

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Speaker 3: exhausting every area. You can't leave a stone unturned. You

694
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Speaker 3: can't just run past an idea. You've got to dive

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Speaker 3: into each and every one of them. They're top ten

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Speaker 3: in cap space and they got the number ten pick

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Speaker 3: in the draft. How are you going to use that

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Speaker 3: and your assets to make this team better and give

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Speaker 3: them a chance to not just compete in the AFC North,

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Speaker 3: to not just compete in the AFC, to go win

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Speaker 3: the whole thing, to go win the Super Bowl. That

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Speaker 3: is the goal, and that's what we'll dive into next.

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Speaker 3: How can the Bengals replicate what the Seahawks have done

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Speaker 3: at that point? How can the Bengals try to replicate

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Speaker 3: what the Newland Patriots did in their offseason to get

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Speaker 3: back to the Super Bowl as well. We'll dive into

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Speaker 3: that when we return on the home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: and hungry, it's always Skyline time. Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 3: on this the day after the Super Bowl, a full

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Speaker 3: off season to go here in Cincinnati, with a lot,

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Speaker 3: a lot to discuss, and we will start to dive

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Speaker 3: into all of that as we go, but for now,

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Speaker 3: let's start with this the idea of getting back to

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl for the Cincinnati Bengals and how with

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Speaker 3: seemingly so many holes on the roster, you can go

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Speaker 3: about doing that. And Paul Danner Junior via The Athletic

722
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Speaker 3: really dove into this and released it earlier today about

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Speaker 3: the steps necessary for the Bengals to create a path

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Speaker 3: similar to what the Seattle Seahawks were able to do.

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Speaker 3: Now this according to Paul, and I know he'll be

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Speaker 3: on with Mo tomorrow to discuss as well. This is

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Speaker 3: kind of Austin if you could lay out what the

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Speaker 3: perfect offseason would look like, and Paul starts it off

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Speaker 3: at the very top with making a real run at

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Speaker 3: the big swing. That is a trade perhaps to land

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Speaker 3: a big time pass rusher to address one of those weaknesses.

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Speaker 3: We heard Jamar Chase and t Higgins speak a lot

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Speaker 3: a lot last week about Max Cross and Jeffrey Simmons

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Speaker 3: that Austin that would be a big swing, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean those types of players. I think it's also

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Speaker 3: interesting and Paul's one b is checking the pass rushing

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Speaker 3: boxes with quantity and versatility, So you could go big

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Speaker 3: name or get multiple names that could equate to more

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Speaker 3: depth and more versatility on the defensive line. We've had

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Speaker 3: Jordan Reid on this show before and Jordan Reid tweeted

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Speaker 3: something out just a few minutes ago. He is a

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Speaker 3: NFL Draft in college football analyst for ESPN. He said, quarterback, tackle,

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Speaker 3: edge rusher, and corner have always been a premium when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the off season for building a roster.

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl has continued to show that the disruptive

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle position should be in that category as well,

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Speaker 3: or pay them a lot of money if there's a

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Speaker 3: worthy one on the open market. We get caught up

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Speaker 3: a lot of times right in edge rusher getting after

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. But there's been so many instances we've talked

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Speaker 3: about defensive tackle and pressure to a quarterback up the

752
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Speaker 3: middle in his face and how uncomfortable that makes quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And I know it's still viewed, like Jordan Reid said, quarterback, tackle,

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Speaker 3: ed rusher, corner, should defensive tackle lostin be added into

755
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Speaker 3: that list of those premium positions when building your defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially a guy that can do more than just

757
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Speaker 4: clog the run. Like you got to be able to

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Speaker 4: have guys that make it difficult on an offensive line

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Speaker 4: in pass protection. YEA, a guy that's gonna eat up

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Speaker 4: two dudes on a passing down that might free up

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Speaker 4: a Devin Witherspoon type of player to block. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we've seen the dominance of guys like Aaron Donald. We've

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Speaker 4: seen the dominance of Geno Atkins for a prolonged stretch

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Speaker 4: and his ability to get double digit sacks. What was

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Speaker 4: it Milton Williams the highest paid free agent this offseason

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Speaker 4: for the New England Patriots. He was awesome last night,

767
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 4: by the way, and played a huge role in that game,

768
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Speaker 4: just quite wasn't enough. So yes, I think that's becoming

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Speaker 4: an even more important part. When you have really good

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Speaker 4: edge rushers and it feels like those guys are growing

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Speaker 4: on trees these days, and you're able to generate pressure

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Speaker 4: from the interior of that defensive line as well, it

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Speaker 4: just makes your defense so much harder to defend, and

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Speaker 4: especially a two way player that can stop the run

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 3: Paul outlines a couple of things we've talked about on

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Speaker 3: this show that will kind of grace do. We've talked

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Speaker 3: about extending DJ Turner and Dak Hill. I think you

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Speaker 3: can throw Chase Brown's name in that he still highlights

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Speaker 3: the need to protect Joe Burrow signing Dalton Reisner. Paul

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Speaker 3: brings up not to skimp on a backup quarterback. I

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Speaker 3: think that that's something we kind of overlook at times.

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Speaker 3: Leadership and talent at linebacker no brainer. With the linebacker

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Speaker 3: play that this team went through this year. We also

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Speaker 3: talked about trade and uh tagging trade Hendrickson for a

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Speaker 3: third round pick. Paul identifies that and another one that

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Speaker 3: I think is, you know, kind of the goal now

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Speaker 3: with the combine a couple weeks away.

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Speaker 2: Still.

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Speaker 3: Paul mentions, if you could take the podium for the

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Speaker 3: fourth round at pick number one, ten, you should have

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Speaker 3: three new defenders on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: And I think ideally you're not drafting guys oh because

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Speaker 4: we need a linebacker, Oh because we need a safety,

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Speaker 4: Oh because we need an edge rusher. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's draft the best available players.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And if you do that early on, you can set

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Speaker 3: yourself up for best player available at ten.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like, if you take care of yourself and the rest

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Speaker 4: of the offseason, if you go in and maybe you

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Speaker 4: do Laan in that big player, or you get multiple

804
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Speaker 4: guys that can set up your defense, and then boom,

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Speaker 4: you have the best player available, whether that's a safety

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Speaker 4: in Caleb Downs, or a linebacker like Sonny Styles, or

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Speaker 4: a wide receiver, whoever it might be. Put yourself in

808
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Speaker 4: a position where you aren't drafting for need, you're drafting

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Speaker 4: for talent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just to me, and again like how far?

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Speaker 3: And that's I think when we start to question here,

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Speaker 3: then how far does a third round pick for Trey

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson go? Another body you can add to the defensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball, you know, I think of as

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Speaker 3: we've talked about, if you can get something done with

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Speaker 3: Dax Hill and DJ Turner, maybe you can now say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're good at corner, let's attack interior defensive line, let's

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Speaker 3: attack edge. I don't think it should be that difficult,

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Speaker 3: that impossible to adding a valuable type player at linebacker.

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Speaker 3: You know, Paul uses the name Demrio Davis. I think

821
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Speaker 3: that would be a great name to bring in. But

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Speaker 3: that type of leadership you need in the middle of

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Speaker 3: your defense. So I think the core of this, Austin,

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Speaker 3: it's it's not like I feel like there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people that I've talked to that are like, well,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals don't need to do this, this, this, and this,

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Speaker 3: and that's it. If it was that easy. Every NFL

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Speaker 3: team would be doing it in the offseason, right, It's

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Speaker 3: not easy. You've one, You've got to be willing to

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Speaker 3: spend it. But we've talked all the time about matching

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Speaker 3: the ability to spend with matching the scheme and personnel

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Speaker 3: that you want to put in place and everything that

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Speaker 3: that entails. We talk constantly, constantly about that. So again,

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Speaker 3: not every team can do it. It has to start

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Speaker 3: with the desire and the one to say, yes, we

836
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Speaker 3: want to do this, we want to be successful.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: Now can you put the plan in place to execute

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Speaker 3: starting now and running through the offseason to give yourself

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Speaker 3: a chance by the time training camp opens to say, man,

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Speaker 3: this is a team, and this is a roster that

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Speaker 3: has a legitimate Super Bowl shot.

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Speaker 4: And I think it also means expanding your horizons, which

844
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Speaker 4: means getting extensions done early, which means maybe tagging and

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Speaker 4: trading a guy like Trey Hendrickson. I mean, you look

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Speaker 4: at the example right now, are the Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 4: John Schneider their GM's he got a case now to

848
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Speaker 4: be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but he

849
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Speaker 4: traded away Russell Wilson, He traded away DK Metcalf, he

850
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Speaker 4: traded for Ernest Jones, he traded for gosh, who is

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Speaker 4: the other guy. I'm blanking on his name, but they

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Speaker 4: signed u Chennanuosu in free agency. He's the guy who

853
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Speaker 4: scored the touchdown for him last night. He's just not

854
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Speaker 4: been afraid to move on from good players you know,

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Speaker 4: and guys that you need. They traded four Rashid Shaheed

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Speaker 4: in the middle of the season. They traded four Leonard

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Speaker 4: Williams in season trades. To be able to say, Okay,

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Speaker 4: here's where we are, here's where we need to get better,

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Speaker 4: and not being afraid to move on from stuff that

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Speaker 4: you might typically hang on to. An example would be

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Speaker 4: the number ten pick in the draft, Like when you

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Speaker 4: look at the players right now and some of those

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Speaker 4: dudes that may or may not be available, and I

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Speaker 4: think we're gonna get into that here shortly, but like,

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Speaker 4: are you married to that pick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Can you get that big swing? Can you make get

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Speaker 4: a difference maker right now? By moving on from the

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Speaker 4: number ten pick. You have to be able and be

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Speaker 4: willing to expand your horizons and take some chances and

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Speaker 4: not just say, Okay, we're gonna get some mid level

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Speaker 4: free agents, and we're gonna hope for the best in

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Speaker 4: the draft.

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Speaker 3: How about you get a sure thing you mentioned. I

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Speaker 3: think we kind of glossed over a little bit. In

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Speaker 3: March of last year, they sent DK Metcalf to the

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Speaker 3: Steelers for a second and seventh overall pick. Do you

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Speaker 3: know who that second round pick was used on?

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Speaker 5: Nick Emon Worry?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Did he play a significant role on this team?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 3: So you mentioned like what they did? What are we

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Speaker 3: talking about right now? Can you get a third round

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Speaker 3: pick for Trey Hendrickson? And if you do, what do

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Speaker 3: you turn that third round pick into? Not saying you're

886
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Speaker 3: going to find an Emon Worry, but player of similar,

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Speaker 3: similar caliber, And now you're you're you're in a completely

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Speaker 3: different endw So, yes, the wherewithal to knock out the offseason.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I say it takes more like you

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Speaker 3: could look back and say, man, Seattle, that was a

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Speaker 3: good move. They got a second and a seventh for

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf, But then you have to take it the

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Speaker 3: next step further. Did they evaluate that second round pick correctly?

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Speaker 3: I would say, So that's the other part of the

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Speaker 3: puzzle that that you need to continue to fit into

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Speaker 3: place to be successful. One other note, I just saw

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Speaker 3: this in a group chat aman. Next year's Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: does that fall on the same Sunday as President's Day?

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Speaker 2: Monday?

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Speaker 4: I believe off an off day after next year's super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: The super Bowl next year is on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 3: So that would be great to be able to travel

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Speaker 3: for the Bengals because we get the next that Monday off.

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Speaker 2: Work well, so we can travel to.

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Speaker 5: The super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I can promise you something right now. If the Bengals

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Speaker 4: are playing in the super Bowl, We're not gonna be

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Speaker 4: off on Monday, so you won't go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I'll go to the super Bowl, but we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: on the air on Monday. Why would you Why would

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Speaker 4: you not want to be on the air because I'll

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Speaker 4: be celebrating in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: This is why we do this job.

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Speaker 2: I'd be celebrating. You might be able to get me

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Speaker 2: for a segment, but that'll be after I wake up.

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Speaker 5: Buddy thinks he's on the team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I might be. I might be by next year.

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Speaker 4: We did say don't skimp on back up on the

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Speaker 4: I Cup. Maybe let's go. Hour two is next, And

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Speaker 4: that was insane what you just said. It is balls

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Speaker 4: are the Super Bowl. I'm not working Monday. It's mock

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Speaker 4: draft my Mondays. You're not working Monday, President's Day, company

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Speaker 4: wide holiday. Hard to find good health these days.

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